Zakazana historia Egiptu: Przedpotopowe technologie i matriarchat | Karolina i Maciej Szaciłło — Transcript
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- 0:02My dear friends, I am announcing a show
- 0:04with a very extraordinary couple,
- 0:10whom I would like to introduce to you
- 0:12with great enthusiasm.
- 0:17She is Karolina Szaciło, a journalist,
- 0:19teacher of breathing techniques and
- 0:21meditation.
- 0:26Author of "I Am a Woman," a book about
- 0:28love and change.
- 0:34He is Maciej Szaciło, a promoter of
- 0:37healthy lifestyles, author of many
- 0:39culinary and lifestyle books, and an
- 0:42enthusiast of alchemy, Eastern medicine
- 0:44, hermeticism, and yoga.
- 0:50Today, together for the first time on "
- 0:52Strumyczek,"
- 0:57but certainly not the last, because we
- 0:59are opening a new chapter, a new topic,
- 1:01or perhaps I should say new topics.
- 1:06Today, joining me are Karolina and
- 1:08Maciej Szaciło.
- 1:12Welcome them warmly, just as only you
- 1:14here know how to do.
- 1:18Listen, we will start from the beginning
- 1:20, from the source.
- 1:21What is Kemet to you?
- 1:23Is it a historical place?
- 1:26Is it a lost civilization?
- 1:29Or perhaps a state of consciousness?
- 1:33You know, the answer can be
- 1:35multidimensional, because for me, Kemet
- 1:37is, on one hand, the source of the word
- 1:40, it is the basis for the words
- 1:42chemistry and alchemy, because that is
- 1:44where that science originates.
- 1:49Also, on the other hand, Kemet means the
- 1:51black land, but the black land is also a
- 1:54reference to alchemy, because alchemists
- 1:56started with that element when they
- 1:58wanted to extract light from matter and
- 2:00processed that matter so that it was
- 2:02first black.
- 2:05So it is very subtle. It was the
- 2:07so-called nigredo, that is, the state
- 2:09when something fermented, turned into
- 2:13as if a lack of life, and from that, new
- 2:16life was created. From that, light was
- 2:18extracted. So it is very
- 2:20multidimensional.
- 2:21And besides, Kemet is also the name of
- 2:24that ancient matriarchal civilization
- 2:26that is very close to us.
- 2:29And it also happened that we reached
- 2:31this, we joined our forces, completely
- 2:33unaware that we were heading in that
- 2:35direction.
- 2:38Well, I will say this: when I was 20, I
- 2:40landed in Sinai for the first time with
- 2:43my dad and his 11 drunk friends.
- 2:46I was also quite polluted myself.
- 2:49>> But you know what?
- 2:50I stood on the tarmac and started to cry
- 2:52, and I felt that I had come home. Still
- 2:55completely unconsciously. Then I lived
- 2:57there, I took a break from my studies, I
- 2:59lived a year in Sinai, diving and
- 3:00getting to know that underwater world.
- 3:03And then, when I met Maciek, information
- 3:05came to us in deep consciousness, in
- 3:07such meditation, that we were meant to
- 3:09go to Egypt.
- 3:10>> Maciek reacted very negatively, because
- 3:12Egypt is associated for him with the
- 3:14patriarchy, with that Arab culture that
- 3:16appeared there quite...
- 3:17>> Yes, I was very much against it. However
- 3:19, it is very interesting that it began,
- 3:21because we also organize workshops, and
- 3:23these workshops of ours gather.
- 3:24>> But you know, because we had this
- 3:26thought, "well, okay, but we have to go
- 3:28there." We felt that we were meant to
- 3:30take a group with us. And I also heard
- 3:31one or two more pieces of information in
- 3:33that meditation.
- 3:35Isis, Hathor, it's actually three and
- 3:38Dendera.
- 3:39Dendera is the temple of Hathor in
- 3:41southern Egypt, and those places drew us
- 3:43in the most, so for me, Egypt is
- 3:45definitely a state of consciousness, but
- 3:47also an ancient matriarchal civilization
- 3:49.
- 3:51Well, there is a second part to this
- 3:52story, when we flew to Egypt and didn't
- 3:54know what kind of guide we would have,
- 3:56whether we would get a conventional
- 3:57guide who would tell us about the
- 3:59dynastic times, which don't really
- 4:00interest us much,
- 4:01>> and would shout vodka, vodka, vodka,
- 4:04>> vodka, and so on. Or would we get
- 4:06someone who is a person that...you know
- 4:08, or that
- 4:10>> or Poles, so drink vodka.
- 4:13And listen, we went down to the hotel
- 4:15lobby, we saw a tall, imposing Egyptian
- 4:17who walked up, grabbed me, hugged me,
- 4:19and my first reaction was defense and I
- 4:21wanted to push him away, but then I felt
- 4:23his heart chakra, so I surrendered to it
- 4:25.
- 4:26We stopped hugging, he looked me in the
- 4:28eyes and said: "You are a priestess of
- 4:29Isis, and your temple is Dendera."
- 4:31Listen, every hair on my body stood up.
- 4:33I already knew.
- 4:35And the second thing he said was that he
- 4:37had been called to serve us and to spend
- 4:39this time with us.
- 4:42And it turned out that he is from the
- 4:43line of wisdom keepers connected to
- 4:45Hakim Awyan, a doctor of Egyptology and
- 4:47archaeology, meaning a keeper of wisdom
- 4:49.
- 4:50Listen,
- 4:51>> wisdom keeper.
- 4:53>> Yes, there are very few such people on
- 4:55earth, those who pass on this knowledge
- 4:57from generation to generation, and one
- 5:00can, so to speak, immerse themselves in
- 5:02what is ancient.
- 5:04>> Yes.
- 5:05Hakim was amazing, now deceased, because
- 5:07he was a doctor of archaeology, an
- 5:09Egyptologist, and besides that—so he had
- 5:12this mainstream knowledge—he was also a
- 5:14wisdom keeper and was the master of our
- 5:17Mohamed Zahran, our guide.
- 5:19So
- 5:21>> and there was also an interesting story
- 5:23that we went there because we watched a
- 5:25documentary, a documentary called The
- 5:27Pyramid Code, but there are two pyramid
- 5:29codes, so we refer to the older one.
- 5:32>> And this documentary made an incredible
- 5:34impression on us.
- 5:36At first, we were very strongly
- 5:38connected to India and we did workshops
- 5:40there, we traveled, we were involved
- 5:43with Ayurveda, cleansing, meditation,
- 5:45and with all of that.
- 5:48And at one point after that documentary
- 5:50, we just heard that we had to fly to
- 5:52Egypt, which I was very,
- 5:55>> so you didn't know why yet.
- 5:56>> We didn't know why. Yes.
- 5:58>> And when did you first encounter the
- 6:00idea of pre-diluvian Kemet?
- 6:03Exactly during this documentary, when
- 6:05Hakim talks about what ancient...was. No
- 6:08, no, no. We are talking about while
- 6:11watching this documentary.
- 6:12>> Okay.
- 6:12>> He spoke about it in such a way that it
- 6:14gave us goosebumps, and we felt we had
- 6:16to check it out, we had to go and
- 6:18experience it.
- 6:19>> But he also spoke about concepts so
- 6:20familiar to us, because he said, among
- 6:22other things, that temples in ancient
- 6:24Egypt were built based on the human
- 6:26energy system, where the holiest place
- 6:28was
- 6:29>> the sanctuary. Holy of Holies.
- 6:33And as he listed them, he also mentioned
- 6:35that this was knowledge we knew from the
- 6:37Vedas and Ayurveda, that each of the
- 6:39chakras—not all of them, because not the
- 6:41two extreme ones—corresponds to and
- 6:43governs the most important endocrine
- 6:44glands in our body.
- 6:47And suddenly we began to hear, you know
- 6:49, to listen to knowledge we know from
- 6:51Ayurveda, which was in a completely
- 6:52different, Kemetian edition.
- 6:56And these similarities meant that—well,
- 6:58and above all, the information that this
- 7:00Egyptian or dynastic civilization, which
- 7:02we all hear about and learn about in
- 7:04history lessons, was actually, sorry for
- 7:06the expression, just the leftovers of a
- 7:08high matriarchal civilization that goes
- 7:11back thousands of years.
- 7:14That turning point, which, as we know,
- 7:16appears in all cultures and traditions,
- 7:19was the flood that happened about 11,500
- 7:21years ago.
- 7:22And
- 7:23>> that's what those who think they know
- 7:25say.
- 7:26>> That's what they say. Yes, we will today
- 7:28, listen, we will repeatedly remind you
- 7:30today that everyone has the right to
- 7:32their own version of history
- 7:37>> and that we respect all those who have a
- 7:39different version of this history,
- 7:41because, unfortunately, the truth is
- 7:43determined by the heart, not just the
- 7:44facts.
- 7:47But it is beautiful that you say that,
- 7:49because we felt Egypt primarily with our
- 7:51hearts when we flew there, landed, and
- 7:53started entering these structures with
- 7:55Mohamed, including the Great Pyramid,
- 7:57but not only that, because for me,
- 7:58perhaps one of the most beautiful places
- 8:00is Dendera, which is associated with the
- 8:02heart chakra. That is when we started to
- 8:04experience these places, because these
- 8:06places can be visited, you can go in and
- 8:08see how beautifully they are built, with
- 8:10what craftsmanship and so on, but you
- 8:12can, above all, experience them with
- 8:13your heart, you can feel their
- 8:15vibrations.
- 8:16>> I mean you do that, if someone wanted to
- 8:19, they can turn to Karolina and Maciek.
- 8:22They organize such expeditions, and I
- 8:24will remind you of this in every episode
- 8:27, because I think you will be here for
- 8:29many episodes, as this knowledge is
- 8:31incredible.
- 8:32Um, let's move on today with some
- 8:34pragmatism, because I know you could
- 8:36talk here for hours to every one of my
- 8:39questions, yes,
- 8:40>> but I would like you to tell us about
- 8:42this civilization.
- 8:47I understand that, following the code of
- 8:49the pyramids, you went to Egypt and
- 8:51there something awoke that was a
- 8:53cognitive imperative, or perhaps some
- 8:55kind of reminder, how would you put it?
- 9:01Many things overlapped, because when it
- 9:03comes to the intellect, we started
- 9:05connecting the dots, but it's also a
- 9:07kind of knowing from the heart, taking
- 9:09things from different fields.
- 9:13For instance, I've long been passionate
- 9:16about alchemy and hermeticism, and I had
- 9:18no clue I was studying something rooted
- 9:20in Kemet, where alchemy originated.
- 9:25Tell me about that moment when we
- 9:27entered Saqqara, it was mystical, and
- 9:28then I’ll share my experience with the
- 9:30temple.
- 9:31>> Should I share it like that?
- 9:32>> Yes, go ahead, it’s such a space.
- 9:36>> Imagine this: there are 20 people behind
- 9:39us in our group, so we’re holding the
- 9:41field and trying to make sure everyone
- 9:43feels comfortable.
- 9:46Where we are entering,
- 9:49like, there are columns between us—we
- 9:51are walking: columns on the left,
- 9:53columns on the right, beautiful ones
- 9:55that look a bit like, I don't know, some
- 9:58kind of flowers. They are so intricately
- 10:00carved, and suddenly I start crying and
- 10:03have a vision. I see myself as an
- 10:05Egyptian priest.
- 10:06>> And I see myself arriving in a
- 10:07procession and I start to cry, and there
- 10:09are people behind me and I don't know
- 10:11what to do because it's such an intense
- 10:13vision, very personal to me. And I see
- 10:15myself, I’m riding in this procession,
- 10:18people are applauding, bowing down, and
- 10:21I am, so to speak, no, no, no. Those
- 10:23were already the times of the decline.
- 10:24Those were already the times of the
- 10:26decline. That was also the source of an
- 10:27immense sense of guilt. Later, you know
- 10:29, as I confronted that vision and
- 10:31understood what it entailed, it was the
- 10:33decline of that civilization.
- 10:35>> Listen, in my opinion, no one can answer
- 10:38that question.
- 10:42In my view, you have to realize that
- 10:44throughout human history, every one of
- 10:46these great conquerors, rulers, and
- 10:54those claiming the throne of the world
- 10:56wanted to conquer Egypt.
- 10:58Why?
- 11:00Why was Egypt so important? No one knows
- 11:03that to this day.
- 11:05I hope that in today's conversation we
- 11:07can touch upon this topic a little bit.
- 11:11However, when things happened, listen,
- 11:13it doesn't matter, because this
- 11:15hierarchy always somehow
- 11:19slipped through Egypt, it was always
- 11:21showing up somewhere.
- 11:24Sometimes it had, like people do, good
- 11:27manifestations, sometimes not so good,
- 11:29sometimes it had very strong, monstrous
- 11:32energetic manifestations, so it's not
- 11:35about making excuses.
- 11:38No, no, of course we realize that we
- 11:41have been many times on the brighter
- 11:43side and the less bright side.
- 11:46We personally are huge fans of series,
- 11:49and in those series, it's often the case
- 11:51that a given character seems evil, right
- 11:53?
- 11:54But then there is a flashback, we go
- 11:56back to that person's childhood, and
- 11:58suddenly it turns out that we start to
- 12:00understand why this person behaves that
- 12:02way. This character acts, and we think:
- 12:04"Oh, he's evil," but he's not actually
- 12:06evil, because no one is evil, it's just
- 12:09that the environment can change us and
- 12:11influence our life choices. So, whether
- 12:14I was a bad priest or a good one, we
- 12:16don't know.
- 12:17Maybe I was a bit bad and a bit good.
- 12:22>> Relative, but somewhere here, you know,
- 12:24for me such a space was the Great
- 12:25Pyramid, which was a complete surprise,
- 12:28because our first visit, we entered
- 12:29during private visits, meaning we only
- 12:31go in as a group, where you can visit
- 12:33all three chambers.
- 12:37It starts with the Subterranean Chamber
- 12:39, that is, the underground chamber,
- 12:41which is about 80 meters below ground.
- 12:43Then we enter the heart chakra, which is
- 12:45the Queen's Chamber and. At the very end
- 12:47is that chamber, which most visitors
- 12:49have the opportunity to see during the
- 12:51day, which is quite a difficult
- 12:52experience because hundreds of people
- 12:54enter, it's stuffy, there are tons of
- 12:56people, and it's hard to feel the
- 12:58vibration of that place. Because if we
- 13:00are energetically sensitive, we
- 13:01primarily connect to the vibrations of
- 13:03everyone else who is in that place,
- 13:05which is the King's Chamber.
- 13:09And that was the first, for me,
- 13:11incredible experience, which allowed me
- 13:13to understand and feel what the Wisdom
- 13:15Keepers, such as Hakim Abdel Awyan,
- 13:17meant when they said that these places
- 13:19unlock the key to our senses.
- 13:24Neters in Egypt, translated by
- 13:25Egyptologists as deities—in this
- 13:28matriarchal civilization, which we feel
- 13:30more, and this is of course some
- 13:32hypothesis, yes, which was presented by
- 13:34Wisdom Keepers, also among others
- 13:36Schwaller de Lubicz—meant senses, that
- 13:38is, opening and archetypes, that is,
- 13:41opening our senses.
- 13:43The Egyptians, those matriarchal ones,
- 13:46believed that we have 360 senses.
- 13:49Today, in modern times, we use five, and
- 13:51each of the deities corresponded to a
- 13:53specific sense and helped us
- 13:57in changing the neuroplasticity of our
- 13:59brain.
- 14:01And the Great Pyramid was that first
- 14:03experience when I actually felt more and
- 14:05when my consciousness opened up and for
- 14:07a moment I found myself in another
- 14:08dimension.
- 14:11And then the second mystical experience
- 14:13was Dendera, and the entry into Dendera
- 14:15itself, when you drive up, there is this
- 14:17huge approach, seeing this temple, all
- 14:19my hair stood on end, but not just mine
- 14:21, but also for the people who were with
- 14:23us. Tears and recognition appeared, and
- 14:25Maciek and I like to say. You remembered
- 14:27.
- 14:28>> I remembered that these journeys are for
- 14:30us a collection of fragments of our soul
- 14:32and also, as it were, unlocking tools
- 14:34that we once used.
- 14:37>> We also had a shared vision, because
- 14:39since I'm opening up like this, I saw
- 14:41you as a priestess. You had exactly the
- 14:43same one.
- 14:44>> Exactly. I saw myself.
- 14:46We entered the Holy of Holies in one of
- 14:48the places connected to the Holy of
- 14:50Holies in Dendera and also the Merkaba
- 14:52located there.
- 14:54I had a vision of myself as a priestess
- 14:56.
- 14:58More from that matriarchal period,
- 15:00because this temple functioned, like
- 15:02most temples in Egypt—as independent
- 15:04researchers now say—the Ptolemaic
- 15:06temples were built upon ancient
- 15:07complexes going back tens of thousands
- 15:09of years.
- 15:12>> And your channeling was activated, so
- 15:14you started to...
- 15:15>> Yes, I started working with Akashic
- 15:17structures after Egypt. This is also
- 15:19something incredible that opened up.
- 15:22So for us, well...
- 15:25>> Do those to whom Egypt speaks not
- 15:27experience the black nobility?
- 15:30Perhaps, yes, perhaps, because we don't
- 15:32know what they experience, but maybe
- 15:35they don't experience the black
- 15:37pharaonic nobility, the Anunnaki, or
- 15:39Marduk.
- 15:40I can give you, I can give you a simple
- 15:42example of a radio, right?
- 15:46We can choose Chili Z or we can choose
- 15:48Radio Eska, depending on which frequency
- 15:50we tune into; everyone has the choice,
- 15:53and these structures, they enable...
- 15:55it's also a bit like, you know, ancient
- 15:57knowledge; Kabbalah was beautiful
- 15:59knowledge in the light, at least from my
- 16:02perspective, but it's like a knife.
- 16:07>> A knife can be used to spread jam on
- 16:09bread or, you know, for other things,
- 16:12right?
- 16:15So, it can depend on our mindset and
- 16:17what we want to discover and see there.
- 16:22>> And the vision that Maciek spoke about,
- 16:24which he had when entering Saqqara, was
- 16:26also a cleansing of some old memory
- 16:28patterns related to his past lives.
- 16:32Releasing records that block his
- 16:33potential.
- 16:35So, for every one of these trips, we
- 16:37prepare ourselves, and a great many
- 16:38things are released.
- 16:40We also work with the group before the
- 16:42trip.
- 16:44And well, we can say that these trips to
- 16:47India, which actually initiated Egypt
- 16:48...
- 16:51>> I mean, we don't want to play with
- 16:53percentages here, but the biggest leaps
- 16:55in consciousness now come from these
- 16:56Egypt trips, and it's not even just the
- 16:58time in Egypt, which is amazing, but
- 17:00also the time preceding Egypt, when we
- 17:02are already connecting with these
- 17:04structures, but also with our own past
- 17:05histories.
- 17:08And it is truly an incredible experience
- 17:10.
- 17:12And regarding what you said about how
- 17:14these structures work, we had the great
- 17:16joy of hosting Mohamed Ibrahim Albasuni
- 17:18on our podcast.
- 17:23He is a guide who works with independent
- 17:25researchers, and he said a phenomenal
- 17:27thing, giving the example of a mobile
- 17:29phone, that his mom uses a mobile phone
- 17:31just to connect and disconnect calls.
- 17:36His wife is already able to send an
- 17:37email or write a message.
- 17:40His children are coding on a phone,
- 17:42while someone else will be browsing
- 17:44sites on a phone, or doing other
- 17:45unpleasant things.
- 17:48And now, depending on our level of
- 17:49consciousness, a phone can serve a
- 17:51completely different function. It is
- 17:53exactly the same with these structures.
- 17:56We can talk about the dark aspects of
- 17:57these structures, and they are
- 17:58undoubtedly there and have been used and
- 18:00are still being used for that purpose.
- 18:05And we can also talk about places that
- 18:07are at key points of the Earth's energy
- 18:09grid, which were used to awaken and
- 18:10raise consciousness globally and
- 18:12collectively, and can serve such a
- 18:13function again, and are likely beginning
- 18:15to do so many times over.
- 18:20Alexander the Great and
- 18:23Rome and Napoleon. Everyone wanted the
- 18:25throne of Egypt.
- 18:27I wonder why that is?
- 18:29Listen, why in a conversation about
- 18:31Kemet
- 18:34>> is the concept of matriarchy so
- 18:36important, and when talking about
- 18:38matriarchy,
- 18:43do you mean some kind of rule by women
- 18:45or a different civilizational model?
- 18:52What fascinates us most about this
- 18:54pre-dynastic matriarchal civilization is
- 18:56that it went beyond gender, following
- 18:58Jung, following the Vedas, saying that
- 19:00each of us has masculine energy and
- 19:02feminine energy.
- 19:07And now, this feminine energy is
- 19:09connected with consciousness, with the
- 19:11soul, with feeling, with cooperation,
- 19:13and is that connection with Mother
- 19:15Nature.
- 19:17Masculine energy is the energy of action
- 19:19, it is the energy of vitality, it is
- 19:21the energy that flows outward, a more
- 19:23expansive energy, and in antiquity, what
- 19:25we feel and what we believe is that
- 19:27gender did not play a key role.
- 19:30These were matriarchal structures.
- 19:35These were structures that were based on
- 19:36the integration of the masculine and
- 19:38feminine aspect within us, where there
- 19:40was no dominance of women, but rather
- 19:42equality, and these were cultures in
- 19:43which the throne was indeed inherited in
- 19:45matriarchal Egypt through the female
- 19:47line.
- 19:49Pharaoh–
- 19:53Hakim Abdel Awyan explains it
- 19:55beautifully: "per-aa"–that is the
- 19:57combination that led to the formation of
- 19:59the word "pharaoh" and refers to the
- 20:01high throne in the female line.
- 20:05So succession took place through the
- 20:06female line, but that was not the most
- 20:08important thing.
- 20:10These were cultures that were immersed
- 20:11in consciousness, that were immersed in
- 20:13Mother Nature, that drew energy.
- 20:16We also feel that they did so by
- 20:18cooperating with Mother Nature, and not
- 20:20by using and exploiting Mother Nature.
- 20:22So yes, that is how we both feel.
- 20:25>> Maciek, can you update this a little bit
- 20:27?
- 20:27Uh
- 20:30>> as far as updating goes, I’m not really
- 20:32the person who is good at that sort of
- 20:34thing.
- 20:36Why?
- 20:38Because I personally represent the left
- 20:40channel of my body a bit more, and it is
- 20:42associated with feeling, connecting, and
- 20:44searching for those various dots.
- 20:49That’s why here, here Karolina is more
- 20:51linear, but now I’m more, more surprised
- 20:54.
- 20:56Uh, you know, if we follow the tradition
- 20:59of the wisdom keepers, it spoke of a
- 21:01great cycle that lasts about 65,000 to
- 21:0367,000 years and consists of smaller
- 21:05cycles that correspond to the Earth's
- 21:07precession cycle, which is about 26,000
- 21:10years.
- 21:13And if we are talking about all these "
- 21:15per-neter," because that’s what the
- 21:17pyramids were called in antiquity,
- 21:18contrary to what Egyptologists say now,
- 21:20claiming they are tombs, we are moving
- 21:22away from that narrative because, as is
- 21:24well known, no mummies or corpses have
- 21:26ever been found in any of the pyramids.
- 21:29Such burials did indeed take place
- 21:31during dynastic times. They did happen,
- 21:33but it was—in English, I don't know how
- 21:35to translate that into Polish.
- 21:36>> When is the time of "chem" dated to? Uh
- 21:38, we are starting, you know.
- 21:42We don't actually know, but that time of
- 21:44the matriarchal civilization that we are
- 21:47talking about, which Hakim Abdel Awyan
- 21:49spoke of, was about 65,000 years ago;
- 21:51the creation of the Sphinx was around
- 21:5450,000 BC, and the largest structures in
- 21:56the whole Giza plateau complex, like the
- 21:58Great Pyramid, Dahshur, Abusir, Abu
- 22:01Rawash, and so on, were from the golden
- 22:03age, which the Vedas also mentioned,
- 22:05about 25,000 to 30,000 years ago.
- 22:12>> So, listen, this is much earlier than
- 22:15what, for example, Egyptologists say.
- 22:20>> Zahi Hawass.
- 22:21>> Yes, our favorite.
- 22:23>> You mean
- 22:23>> very much.
- 22:25I mean, honestly, he is quite
- 22:27indifferent to us, but
- 22:29>> I think that name will appear here a few
- 22:31more times.
- 22:32>> Well, it's not just Zahi Hawass.
- 22:35There is also Mark Lehner, with whom you
- 22:37and Carmen Boulter have nothing in
- 22:39common, because Carmen Boulter is on a
- 22:42line, so to speak, compatible with
- 22:45>> compatible. Yes.
- 22:47>> Maciek,
- 22:48>> I don't know who you are talking about,
- 22:50to be honest.
- 22:51>> Zahi Hawass, I know.
- 22:52>> Zahi Hawass. Yes, I know, I know.
- 22:55However, I prefer not to comment,
- 22:57because we are completely not on that
- 22:59same page.
- 23:02If someone calls people who have a
- 23:04different opinion "pyramidiots," because
- 23:06that is the word he uses.
- 23:11"
- 23:11>> Pyramidiot" is such a well-known, known
- 23:13, known word that Zahi Hawass invented,
- 23:15and all alternative researchers, who are
- 23:17very often professors in their fields,
- 23:19because such people also appear
- 23:21>> but have a different opinion than
- 23:23>> But they have a different opinion. He
- 23:24calls them "pyramidiots."
- 23:25>> Yes. Especially since these are people
- 23:28whose work is
- 23:31widely known and accepted in the
- 23:32scientific community.
- 23:34So Robert Schoch—is that right? He is a
- 23:37geologist, he is a geologist now,
- 23:40>> he discovered that on the so-called
- 23:42Sphinx, which according to this oral
- 23:44tradition of the wisdom keepers was not
- 23:46a sphinx at all, but a lioness,
- 23:50>> it has
- 23:51>> like water erosion, because how does
- 23:53water erosion differ from wind erosion?
- 23:56The fact that wind erosion is more
- 23:58irregular, while water erosion has these
- 24:00little streams. So, you can see that
- 24:02water, you can see the difference with
- 24:04the naked eye between
- 24:05>> yes, meaning on the so-called Sphinx.
- 24:08>> And what's more,
- 24:09>> now he has proven it, presented an
- 24:11entire scientific paper, wrote about it
- 24:14, and presented this data at some large
- 24:16geological conference. Everyone
- 24:18applauded and said it was okay.
- 24:21However, mainstream Egyptologists said
- 24:23no.
- 24:25>> Zahi Hawass hired another geologist who
- 24:27stated that it was not true after all
- 24:29and that it was wind erosion.
- 24:36Do you think the propagation of this
- 24:37argument is aimed at obscuring
- 24:39inconvenient versions of history that,
- 24:41well, these circles would prefer not to
- 24:42see come to light?
- 24:49>> Yes. It is often the case that in
- 24:51various types of series and films there
- 24:53are fragments of truth.
- 24:58There is this film, I think it's Indiana
- 25:00Jones, where the Smithsonian Institute
- 25:02is shown, with boxes containing various
- 25:04artifacts that were looted and are
- 25:06stored there because they are
- 25:07inconvenient artifacts that contradict
- 25:10the accepted narrative.
- 25:16The narrative is linear, and
- 25:17unfortunately, the narrative is meant to
- 25:20keep us in the belief that it all began
- 25:22quite recently,
- 25:25as if the development of our
- 25:27consciousness, and today we have
- 25:28artificial intelligence, but we know
- 25:30nothing about the fact that there were
- 25:32civilizations before, that it was a
- 25:34cyclical process, where a civilization
- 25:35would emerge, develop its consciousness
- 25:37, and some of those civilizations
- 25:39developed their consciousness incredibly
- 25:41, after which there was a collapse, and
- 25:43then again, and it is a recurring cycle
- 25:44.
- 25:45>> Do you think, Maciek, that it's to hide
- 25:47this development of consciousness, this
- 25:49forbidden history? What do you think?
- 25:55I think and feel that it keeps us in the
- 25:57belief that everything is linear,
- 25:59because if we accept that there was
- 26:01something before, then we enter into
- 26:03more feminine energy, which is cyclical
- 26:05, which is consciousness, which says
- 26:07that all threads lead to one source,
- 26:09while here we only have a scale from
- 26:11zero to something, right?
- 26:16–from point A to point B, and then it is
- 26:18easier to keep us in ignorance.
- 26:25And we have to accept it so that we can
- 26:27be controlled, because we don't want to
- 26:29be, but some people still want to be.
- 26:34If people start hearing that there was
- 26:36something before that was more developed
- 26:38than our civilization, then they start
- 26:40to get uneasy, then they start to wake
- 26:42up, then they start looking and asking
- 26:44questions.
- 26:46What's more, this civilization possessed
- 26:49technology that we do not have today,
- 26:51the generation of free energy. Here,
- 26:53Nikola Tesla comes to mind, but not only
- 26:55him, Christopher Dunn and many
- 26:57researchers at this moment.
- 27:00So you know, there's this, because we
- 27:02watch and read a lot about Egypt.
- 27:05There's this very cool channel.
- 27:07Today I'm having a brain fog day, but
- 27:09I'll remember it in a second.
- 27:12Never mind which channel, it's about how
- 27:14under Saqqara, about 40,000 vases were
- 27:17found. Maciek will talk.
- 27:18>> Uncharted.
- 27:19>> Uncharted, yes. Ben van Kerkwyk, I think
- 27:22his name is. He is invited all over the
- 27:24world as an alternative researcher.
- 27:25These vases, some of them are cataloged
- 27:27and you can see a very small amount in
- 27:29the museum in Saqqara, some in the old
- 27:31museum in Cairo. A very, very large
- 27:34portion ended up, mind you, in private
- 27:36collections. Zach Hałas also became
- 27:38famous for this.
- 27:40And these vases are a very interesting
- 27:41thing here.
- 27:42Some of them are in the Petrie Museum in
- 27:44London.
- 27:47A team of researchers was formed to
- 27:49study these vases in terms of precision
- 27:51, manufacturing technique, and so on,
- 27:53consisting of specialists in the field.
- 27:56And what did they find? These vases,
- 27:58which can be seen in the museum in Cairo
- 28:00among others, are described, mind you,
- 28:02as predynastic, meaning not even related
- 28:04to the dynasties. Maciek will tell you
- 28:06in a moment, because he is better at
- 28:08this stuff, with what precision they are
- 28:10made. Predynastic Egypt didn't even have
- 28:12a potter's wheel yet. We have vases that
- 28:14are, well, precision, and we don't have
- 28:16the technology today to make these types
- 28:18of vases. After which, the further you
- 28:20go, you know, there is this image of the
- 28:22Egyptian with a loincloth, with a little
- 28:24stone hammer, who is just doing all
- 28:26these things, and what's interesting,
- 28:28the further he goes, he works diorite,
- 28:30which is like a nine on the scale, or
- 28:32basalt, or granite. The deeper into the
- 28:34woods we go, into the dynastic period,
- 28:36suddenly vases appear that actually
- 28:38correspond to the tools they had at
- 28:40their disposal.
- 28:41So these vases are increasingly backward
- 28:43, worse made in terms of craftsmanship,
- 28:46precision, technology, which sort of
- 28:47completely destroys the linear narrative
- 28:50, because they should be getting more
- 28:52advanced. But maybe you talk about these
- 28:54vases, because it's something phenomenal
- 28:55.
- 28:56>> Yes, I am very passionate here,
- 28:58especially about the work of Christopher
- 29:00Dunn, who is an engineer by profession,
- 29:02currently retired, and he wrote three
- 29:05books on technology in ancient Egypt and
- 29:07some of his conclusions are incredible.
- 29:12He was involved in creating, uh, very
- 29:14accurate components for flying machines
- 29:17.
- 29:18>> He worked for, uh, for the military, I
- 29:21think, in the United States. Exactly. I
- 29:23don't know what his work consisted of.
- 29:25Anyway, he was, like, designing and
- 29:28manufacturing these highly accurate
- 29:30components and when he saw the artifacts
- 29:33in Egypt, he said: "No, this is
- 29:35technology."
- 29:36This is not something that can be done
- 29:39using, uh, copper.
- 29:40>> Identical sculptures of Ramesses. Did
- 29:42you see what to
- 29:44>> or vases, which are made of what
- 29:45materials? They are
- 29:48>> First of all, stone is made of various
- 29:50elements, meaning it has different
- 29:52density and different hardness.
- 29:57So if we were to try to work this stone
- 29:59—I’m not even talking about symmetry,
- 30:01because the symmetry is such that right
- 30:03now there’s a whole project to scan
- 30:05these vases using scanners (because we
- 30:07have the technology now to see) and it
- 30:09turns out they have perfect symmetry,
- 30:11meaning the vase at the bottom has a
- 30:13semicircular shape and stands.
- 30:18>> Right in the center, it doesn't tilt,
- 30:20right? So it must have a perfect axis of
- 30:22symmetry. What’s going on? It is perfect
- 30:24when it comes to symmetry.
- 30:27It’s narrower inside than here, so you
- 30:29can't put your hand in, you can't put a
- 30:31chisel in there.
- 30:33And now, if we put a flashlight in, the
- 30:36light shines through.
- 30:38The stone layer is about 3 mm, for
- 30:40example, on the most advanced ones,
- 30:43because naturally, later on, they become
- 30:46worse and worse.
- 30:49And even if we took stone today and
- 30:51tried to make it on a lathe, the stone
- 30:53would crack at a thickness of 3 mm.
- 31:01They must have had devices that, besides
- 31:03being some kind of lathe, were based on
- 31:05a sonic principle, meaning
- 31:07high-frequency sound was used for
- 31:09processing.
- 31:13>> And now, this blows the minds even of
- 31:16those rational minds that want hard
- 31:17evidence; we go to the museum, we look
- 31:19at the Predynastic period.
- 31:22It is, it is, listen, impossible.
- 31:28>> So wait, let’s put it very pragmatically
- 31:31, so listen, you believe that the
- 31:32version of history is correct which says
- 31:34that all these technologies, these
- 31:36wonders in Egypt, happened before
- 31:42>> yes
- 31:43>> these pharaonic dynasties began, of
- 31:45which we have antediluvian technologies
- 31:47.
- 31:49So listen, what then
- 31:56must have happened on Earth, that is the
- 31:58big question, we can guess here, but we
- 32:00have various interesting messengers here
- 32:02.
- 32:05I wanted to ask you, what or who
- 32:10are the Netjeru?
- 32:12>> here
- 32:12>> that will lead us a little in that
- 32:14direction.
- 32:14>> Yes, yes. We have the Netjeru, we have
- 32:17the word nature.
- 32:18>> Mhm.
- 32:19And the word nature comes from the word
- 32:21Netjeru, because in English it is nature
- 32:23and it has the same etymological root.
- 32:27And what is this nature?
- 32:29Ancient alchemists—and alchemical
- 32:31knowledge, as I mentioned, originates
- 32:33from ancient Egypt from Thoth, who was
- 32:35one of the Netjeru.
- 32:38However, there are also theories saying
- 32:41he was a highly advanced Atlantean who
- 32:43passed on this ancient knowledge,
- 32:45>> who had his female counterpart, whom
- 32:47everyone forgets.
- 32:50Seshat, in ancient Egypt, people, Seshat
- 32:52was the partner of Djehuty, or
- 32:55>> yes. And now we have, we have
- 32:59a symbol that is a dot and around it is
- 33:01a circle
- 33:04>> And now, this is a symbol of either the
- 33:06sun or gold in ancient alchemy, whether
- 33:08Egyptian or later, more European.
- 33:11>> Was he a man, listen, and was he
- 33:16an actual material being in your opinion
- 33:18?
- 33:18>> For us yes, for us yes,
- 33:20>> for us personally yes. And now
- 33:22>> this is absolutely predynastic,
- 33:24>> right? Yes. and at the same time he was
- 33:27a representative of an advanced
- 33:29civilization, which
- 33:30>> so also a wisdom keeper, a wisdom keeper
- 33:34>> and also because hermeticism speaks a
- 33:36lot about this.
- 33:40One of the hermetic principles states
- 33:43that what is above is below, and what is
- 33:45above is below, and what is inside is
- 33:47outside.
- 33:50And the point is that everything is
- 33:51connected by a certain kind of property
- 33:53.
- 33:55Meaning, the color red can exist in many
- 33:57dimensions, not just one dimension.
- 34:00We see the color red, but dowsers say
- 34:02that there are many other red colors
- 34:04invisible to us.
- 34:06Every time it is a repeatable property.
- 34:10And now it is exactly the same here with
- 34:12the property.
- 34:14Net.
- 34:15Neter is a property. It can be an
- 34:17archetype, as is said in psychology. For
- 34:20instance, Jung spoke about archetypes,
- 34:22and it can be a living being, right? And
- 34:24it can be a representative of a given
- 34:26civilization
- 34:27>> and a sense, because Hakim Abdel Awyan
- 34:29spoke about this. I am, you know,
- 34:31feeling linear on one hand, and
- 34:33intuitive on the other. Hakim wrote
- 34:35beautifully and spoke about this during
- 34:36his lectures.
- 34:38I am a big fan, if you want to read
- 34:40about it. I highly recommend Stephen
- 34:41Mehler's book to you. He was an
- 34:43independent Egyptologist, a student of
- 34:45Hakim Abdel Awyan, "The Land of Osiris.
- 34:48" It is probably only available in
- 34:50English, as far as I recall.
- 34:53A phenomenal book that refers to all
- 34:55these researchers we are talking about
- 34:57today, and there Hakim explained that
- 34:59Neters also corresponded to our senses,
- 35:01that we have 360 senses.
- 35:04We use five today in modern times.
- 35:09Of course, this will now, hopefully and
- 35:11we strongly feel, change, and the
- 35:13individual structures patronized by a
- 35:15given Neter opened our additional
- 35:17windows of senses and consciousness.
- 35:23Wisdom keepers like Hakim Abdel Awyan or
- 35:26Mohamed Zahran, who collaborates with us
- 35:28and co-leads our groups, possessed this
- 35:30key to a given structure to be able to
- 35:32open it, so that we, through our senses
- 35:34, could begin to experience those 360.
- 35:39>> Spirit is Spirit is entering this area.
- 35:43Is it knowledge, or mind, or senses?
- 35:47Senses, and spirit follows the senses.
- 35:51>> I would like to return to this, because
- 35:52I haven't finished the concept with the
- 35:54dot and the circle.
- 35:57And now this is a Gnostic representation
- 35:59of Logos and Sophia, right?
- 36:02The point is that, as it were, even in
- 36:05ancient Egypt, there was a source, and
- 36:07there was Isis, or in other words, Aset
- 36:10, there was Osiris, meaning Asar and
- 36:12Aset. And now the point is that this is
- 36:14the source, and what is on the outside
- 36:16is a manifestation of this source.
- 36:18Everything comes out of this small dot,
- 36:20which is the central point, and what is
- 36:22on the outside is a manifestation of
- 36:24nature.
- 36:26And now, we are all Neters too.
- 36:28I am talking about the philosophical
- 36:30concept that stands behind this.
- 36:33So it emanates from the source and is
- 36:35part of creation.
- 36:38Thus, every Neter is some property, some
- 36:41element, some concept of this source in
- 36:43manifestation.
- 36:46>> And this corresponds beautifully with
- 36:48the idea of Kemetian yoga, because as it
- 36:50turns out, if we go to Dendera, on the
- 36:52walls of other temples we also have yoga
- 36:54asanas.
- 36:57And here is, as it were, a completely
- 36:59separate topic regarding where yoga
- 37:01originates and whether it could actually
- 37:03have touched upon this matriarchal
- 37:05Kemetian civilization, or perhaps
- 37:07developed simultaneously in two or more
- 37:09places.
- 37:11>> We are at Luxor Temple and I wanted to
- 37:13show you a very cool, nice hieroglyph
- 37:15here.
- 37:16Here we have a representation of our
- 37:18respiratory system.
- 37:20And here, men on both sides tie and join
- 37:22Lower Egypt and Upper Egypt, which is
- 37:24represented in our system as our lower
- 37:26self and higher self.
- 37:29And it can be done through the breath,
- 37:30just like in yoga.
- 37:32It is called Smai Tawi and it means
- 37:34exactly the same as yoga, that is, union
- 37:36.
- 37:39In Kemet, various yoga positions were
- 37:41practiced, and there are theories saying
- 37:43that this is where yoga originates,
- 37:45precisely from Egypt, from the ancient,
- 37:47predynastic, or even pre-diluvian times
- 37:49.
- 37:59>> At the same time, and here Maciek,
- 38:00because he got quite heavily into this
- 38:03concept of Kemetian yoga, which we also
- 38:05practice on our trips.
- 38:07By connecting with a given Neter, we
- 38:09work, open our senses, and work on the
- 38:11neuroplasticity of the brain.
- 38:14And this is an absolutely beautiful
- 38:15story that you can
- 38:18>> But listen, are the Neteru beings, or
- 38:20are they laws of nature?
- 38:22Because you talk about both a little bit
- 38:24; are they some psychic archetypes, or
- 38:27>> they are everything
- 38:28>> for example, particles of consciousness
- 38:30>> they are everything at once. They can be
- 38:32laws of nature, they can be beings,
- 38:36>> they can be, depending on our perception
- 38:38, we will connect with a given aspect.
- 38:40And here it beautifully refers,
- 38:42>> so if someone wants to connect with Isis
- 38:44and sees Isis not as an archetype, but
- 38:46sees her as a living being, then it will
- 38:48be a living being. Mhm.
- 38:51>> Besides, we had beautiful stories that
- 38:54we felt, because Isis is a manifestation
- 38:56of nature itself, that is, what the
- 38:59entire universe is built from.
- 39:03It is said that she is the cosmic mother
- 39:05, that she is Sophia.
- 39:07For example, I was just leading a yoga
- 39:10session in Egypt on a rooftop, not in
- 39:12Aswan, but in Cairo.
- 39:16And a parrot flew in, listen, it landed
- 39:18on my head and sat there for my whole
- 39:21practice; when I did downward dog, it
- 39:23moved to my butt.
- 39:26When I stood up, it moved back to my
- 39:28head. When I bent over to do a triangle
- 39:30pose, it moved to my arm, it was just
- 39:32...no. And it flew down from above,
- 39:35>> spread its wings and flew over. And it
- 39:37was so incredibly powerful. When we told
- 39:40our guide, he said, "Oh, Isis has come
- 39:42to you."
- 39:43>> Incredible.
- 39:45>> She appeared in the form of a bird, but
- 39:47at the same time, she corresponds to our
- 39:49heart chakra, to nature, to that energy
- 39:51of the primal mother.
- 39:53>> So one should say that these are gods,
- 39:54therefore
- 39:55>> absolutely.
- 39:57Just like when we flew to India, the
- 39:59yoga school we were associated with,
- 40:01Ayurveda, clearly stated that it’s not
- 40:04about the idea of deities and polytheism
- 40:06, but one source and deities that, on
- 40:08the same principle, the principle of
- 40:10archetypes, help us get closer—because
- 40:13we won't understand it anyway, and we
- 40:15aren't able to—but get closer to the
- 40:17idea of God and the source.
- 40:22Maybe we should go deeper into this Isis
- 40:24archetype now, because Isis is portrayed
- 40:27in our culture as the Black Madonna,
- 40:29which is something Timothy Hogan, a
- 40:31high-ranking Templar, talks about.
- 40:35And that Black Madonna was used by the
- 40:37Templars, because they also drew heavily
- 40:39from that knowledge. No, absolutely not
- 40:42.
- 40:43In any case, everyone has the right, if
- 40:45we find elements of knowledge there, why
- 40:48not, if it is knowledge in the light.
- 40:51>> There are many guardians of knowledge,
- 40:53and these guardians aim to
- 40:55>> ensure that the knowledge does not get
- 40:57out
- 41:00to public forums, so I am in favor of
- 41:02digging it out,
- 41:03>> right? To dig it out from there.
- 41:07So many, many structures and cathedrals
- 41:08were built where these Black Madonnas
- 41:10were installed, and they are
- 41:12representations of that archetype,
- 41:13because what do we need?
- 41:17Above all, we need motherly love and
- 41:19belonging.
- 41:21So it is a representation of a woman
- 41:23feeding a child and holding it in her
- 41:25arms, as if giving that sense of
- 41:26security to the child.
- 41:30And it is beautiful when Maciek leads
- 41:32Kemetic yoga on trips—the concept of Dr.
- 41:34Muata will appear here soon too.
- 41:38Listen to this: when you enter that
- 41:40feeling and suddenly start spreading–
- 41:42because there is this one position where
- 41:44you spread your wings like Isis–then
- 41:46Isis embraces your inner child, and then
- 41:48you embrace the whole world, and
- 41:49suddenly all your hair stands on end,
- 41:51people start crying, tears run down
- 41:53their cheeks, because you feel
- 41:55unconditional love, you feel mother
- 41:56energy, you connect with that archetype
- 41:59of the cosmic mother.
- 42:01So, and this is probably, so from the
- 42:03very beginning, when we started getting
- 42:05into these stories of Egypt, we felt
- 42:07that this is a story about one source.
- 42:11>> And listen, what was this pantheon to
- 42:13you, because there were those gods or
- 42:17>> 360, 360 corresponding to our senses,
- 42:22>> meaning only that, not some feeling of a
- 42:24ruling caste.
- 42:26God forbid.
- 42:27>> Absolutely. You know, of course, these
- 42:30Neters are behind it. That’s why I told
- 42:33you about the multidimensionality of our
- 42:35universe, about how certain properties
- 42:37repeat on many levels. One of the levels
- 42:39, of course, are the civilizations that
- 42:42stand behind specific Neters. And for
- 42:44example, one of the civilizations are
- 42:46the Hathors, who stand behind Hathor.
- 42:49And that is a beautiful civilization,
- 42:51which is from Venus, and is very close
- 42:53to us.
- 42:56They have collectively enlightened
- 42:57themselves and are helping us so that we
- 42:59, too, can enter a state of
- 43:01unconditional love.
- 43:03>> You’ve probably heard, because it’s a
- 43:05well-known name, Tom Kenyon.
- 43:07>> Well, he is very connected to the Hathor
- 43:09civilization.
- 43:09>> Listen, these are all channeling things
- 43:12, right, different ones,
- 43:14>> but Kenyon, besides that, is one of the
- 43:16most famous scientists dealing with
- 43:18sound, very recognized worldwide, a
- 43:20therapist.
- 43:21Furthermore, he works in his profession
- 43:23using sound. He also has a very
- 43:25interesting connection to the Hathors,
- 43:27right? So
- 43:27>> yes,
- 43:30>> listen, and he is one of the first who
- 43:32started, who brought the Hathors to
- 43:34light, so to speak, in our modern times
- 43:36.
- 43:39But they, exactly, but if we go even
- 43:41deeper, we have the Hathors on one side
- 43:43, and on the other, what Hathor looks
- 43:45like. Hathor represents, what does she
- 43:47also represent? The female womb.
- 43:50The face of Hathor corresponds to the
- 43:52female reproductive organs, which
- 43:54immediately leads us. What were the
- 43:56Hathor temples actually? They were on
- 43:58one hand, and still are today.
- 44:00I recently finished a book that I
- 44:02debated a bit, because it concerned
- 44:03dynastic times, but it definitely went
- 44:05deeper. It was the story of Omm Sety. I
- 44:08don’t know if you’ve heard. Dorothy Eady
- 44:09. Such a very famous story of a little
- 44:12British girl who, at the beginning of
- 44:14the 20th century, I’m sorry, experienced
- 44:16death.
- 44:17Suddenly, the soul of an Egyptian
- 44:19priestess entered her body, and Dorothy
- 44:21was no longer Dorothy but was Bentresh.
- 44:23And it’s a whole story. She goes back to
- 44:25, this is the time, these are the times
- 44:27of Seti, the 19th dynasty. She finally
- 44:29returns to Egypt.
- 44:31She describes this because she worked
- 44:33with the greatest Egyptologists,
- 44:34including Selim Hassan, and she spoke
- 44:36about it because she settled in southern
- 44:38Egypt at the beginning of the 20th
- 44:40century.
- 44:42Southern Egypt is a region that is very
- 44:45patriarchal, "turbo-patriarchal," and 50
- 44:47or 100 years ago it was even more so.
- 44:50And she managed to survive there as a
- 44:52single woman. She had many animals,
- 44:54>> she was known for that.
- 44:59And she said that she discovered a great
- 45:01deal, as she remembered her own priestly
- 45:03incarnations, she saw many influences,
- 45:05firstly in Islam, and secondly in the
- 45:07beliefs of the indigenous people who
- 45:09lived in southern Egypt.
- 45:13For instance, if women could not get
- 45:15pregnant, where did they go to pray? To
- 45:17Hathor.
- 45:20>> Because Hathor and these Hathor temples
- 45:22—Mohamed Ibrahim also spoke about this
- 45:24on our podcast—they functioned as
- 45:26priests who were simultaneously
- 45:28scientists.
- 45:31They were very often
- 45:35hosp...that's not the right word, but
- 45:37rather therapeutic centers, and each of
- 45:39them worked on slightly different
- 45:41aspects.
- 45:43And these Hathor temples were associated
- 45:45precisely with fertility, but fertility
- 45:47understood in a different way as well,
- 45:49meaning the sacred womb chakra and the
- 45:51tradition of immaculate conceptions,
- 45:53which stretches back to antiquity and
- 45:54was later distorted.
- 45:57But that is another long topic.
- 46:00And listen, knowledge of the Neteru is a
- 46:03gateway to that predynastic period.
- 46:07Uh
- 46:08>> this work with consciousness, with
- 46:11>> Yes, absolutely.
- 46:12>> Tell us about Kemetian Yoga, because it
- 46:14explains the concept of Neteru
- 46:16beautifully here as well.
- 46:18Yes, in Kemetian Yoga we don't have many
- 46:21postures, about 24 poses.
- 46:26The concept of this modern Kemetian Yoga
- 46:29was created by Muata Ashby, who is a
- 46:31doctor of religious studies and
- 46:33philosophy.
- 46:35Exactly. I'm not sure what else he has
- 46:37studied or how else he is educated.
- 46:42In any case, he compares Vedic
- 46:44philosophical concepts—as well as older
- 46:46Dravidian ones, which are more derived
- 46:49from Lemuria—with concepts coming from
- 46:51Atlantis and Kemet.
- 46:56And like
- 47:00this is amazing, because everyone has
- 47:03free choice.
- 47:04If someone feels more comfortable
- 47:06working with Ganesha or Shiva, then feel
- 47:08free, right?
- 47:11Anyone can work with them, but we are
- 47:14deeply immersed in a patriarchal
- 47:16civilization that covered up knowledge
- 47:18on this subject a very, very long time
- 47:20ago.
- 47:23We managed to reach the roots of these
- 47:25matriarchal origins of that civilization
- 47:27in Egypt.
- 47:29And as for knowledge derived from the
- 47:32Vedas, it is already inaccessible to us
- 47:34, and it is not really clear how to work
- 47:36with Ganesha.
- 47:37Ganesha, for example, is responsible for
- 47:40removing obstacles. So now, how do
- 47:42Hindus work with Ganesha? Well, they
- 47:44work like this: oh my dear Ganesha,
- 47:46remove all obstacles on the path to my
- 47:48achieving wealth.
- 47:50>> You can work like that, right?
- 47:51>> Positive work.
- 47:53>> Yes. Yes. Ganesha is the one worked with
- 47:55most often.
- 47:56>> I think not only Ganesha. Yes. Yes.
- 48:02>> So here, we have managed to reach very
- 48:04deep methods of working with our
- 48:06consciousness, which Jung also wrote
- 48:08about.
- 48:11>> Yes. But you know, because you always
- 48:13explain so nicely that, for example, the
- 48:16crocodile, that is Sobek, one of the
- 48:18Netjeru, is connected to our sacral
- 48:20chakra, and now what is hidden in this
- 48:22sacral chakra, and this also corresponds
- 48:25beautifully with Vedic knowledge.
- 48:27Yes, on every level, because when I
- 48:29started practicing these positions and
- 48:32got into the Sobek position, I said, wow
- 48:34, on a physical level, I feel everything
- 48:36working there and my hips are working.
- 48:39Exactly where the sacral chakra is, it
- 48:41relaxes there and blockages are removed
- 48:44.
- 48:44If I enter, because in Kemetic yoga, we
- 48:47also go into visualization. Meaning,
- 48:49apart from working with breath and
- 48:52position, we also visualize, so we
- 48:54visualize ourselves as being that
- 48:56crocodile.
- 48:58Which is submerged in that water.
- 49:02And now the symbolism is beautiful
- 49:04because that water symbolizes the causal
- 49:06ocean, which is also that Vedic causal
- 49:08ocean or that primordial water, meaning
- 49:10that which is unmanifested, from which
- 49:12our reality is created.
- 49:17Because in all these systems, that
- 49:19primordial water was like a
- 49:21representation of that field, that
- 49:23invisible one, from which our reality is
- 49:25formed, the dimensions in which we live
- 49:27.
- 49:29And now that crocodile is suspended. A
- 49:32crocodile on our physical plane can
- 49:34indeed remain in one position for a very
- 49:36long time and wait for its prey.
- 49:40However, later, when it jumps and snaps
- 49:42, it is a manifestation and symbolism of
- 49:45that sacral chakra power, which
- 49:47manifests in our obsessions, in our
- 49:49tendencies toward excess and the fact
- 49:51that we want to obtain, we want to
- 49:58>> addictions, yes, ancient kings were
- 50:00rubbed with the fat of such a sacred
- 50:02crocodile, so it is interesting what the
- 50:04connection is here.
- 50:06Listen,
- 50:07>> the connection is related to the fact
- 50:09that this sacral chakra was important.
- 50:13But look, I'll give you a slightly
- 50:14different example, when it comes to the
- 50:17concept of mummification itself, at the
- 50:19very beginning it was a concept related
- 50:21to rejuvenating the body.
- 50:25And indeed in ancient Kemet there was
- 50:30like a possibility, there was technology
- 50:33for body rejuvenation and it consisted
- 50:35of placing the person into a special
- 50:37Stargate, you could call it. It is a
- 50:39stone box. Besides, we have seen such
- 50:41boxes not only in the Great Pyramid,
- 50:43because in the Serapeum there are also
- 50:45these boxes, I think 26 of them
- 50:47>> 24
- 50:47>> 24.
- 50:50>> The surface of this is so incredibly
- 50:52polished.
- 50:53It is done again with an accuracy of 0
- 50:56to 1a.
- 50:59This is a level of precision that wasn't
- 51:00needed for anything.
- 51:04In that case, it must have been needed
- 51:06for something, because if so much work
- 51:08was put into making it so precise and
- 51:10smooth, it means there must have been
- 51:11some function behind it.
- 51:16>> 70 tons for the box alone, 30 tons for
- 51:19the lid.
- 51:21It is unknown how they lifted this lid.
- 51:26Perhaps, for instance, it levitated and
- 51:28rose upward using sound when they wanted
- 51:31to look inside or put someone in, as it
- 51:33might have been used for healing—
- 51:35because of "Serapeum,""therapium"—while
- 51:37the hieroglyphs carved here don't match
- 51:39the precision of those edges at all;
- 51:41they are made with ideal geometry, yet
- 51:44these are crooked.
- 51:48All the lines are crooked, so it looks
- 51:50like it was done much later.
- 51:52That they were carved much later.
- 51:54>> 24.
- 51:56>> They are incredibly heavy, made from a
- 51:59single piece of stone, often diorite,
- 52:01basalt, or granite; often it is black
- 52:04stone with special geometry and ideal
- 52:06symmetry, with perfectly polished inner
- 52:09walls.
- 52:10And now on the outside.
- 52:11>> With a chisel, obviously.
- 52:12>> Yes, and on the outside, there are
- 52:14hieroglyphs that are already uneven. And
- 52:16when there is a line, that line just
- 52:17goes like this. And here you can see the
- 52:19edge. I applied a laser, and you can see
- 52:21that.
- 52:22>> We have recordings, and I hope we can
- 52:24illustrate this problem with the laser.
- 52:27And now the subject lies down inside.
- 52:30Priestesses and priests start chanting
- 52:32sacred syllables, creating vibrations
- 52:34with their voices.
- 52:36And now it acts like a tuning fork. The
- 52:38box starts to resonate.
- 52:40>> Your voice in there, listen, would be.
- 52:42>> It would be an incre.
- 52:43>> A wonderful experience.
- 52:45>> It starts to resonate.
- 52:48There are even theories stating that
- 52:50such a so-called sarcophagus, or
- 52:52Stargate, is able to rise and levitate
- 52:54in the air.
- 52:56A so-called sarcophagus, which is not a
- 52:58sarcophagus, made from one piece of
- 53:00stone, is polished.
- 53:02Technology was used here to make these
- 53:04walls super smooth, both on the outside
- 53:07and the inside.
- 53:09At one time, this block of stone, empty
- 53:11inside, where one could lie down, was
- 53:13not attached to the ground.
- 53:16>> There occurs a rejuvenation at the
- 53:18cellular level and the opening of the
- 53:20entire energy system, contact with our
- 53:23senses, the opening of these "neters."
- 53:28>> And that is exactly what the myth of
- 53:30this resurrection, this rising from the
- 53:32dead, was about.
- 53:34And also work on the plasma body, which
- 53:36later in the dynastic period—as we said
- 53:39, in quotation marks, the remnants of
- 53:41that matriarchal period—was used by the
- 53:43"djehuty," the priests, to create the
- 53:45whole story about.
- 53:47>> About rebirth, about the tributes that
- 53:49had to be paid, and so on. Well, you
- 53:51know what happened.
- 53:54>> but also about mummification, because
- 53:56the rejuvenation process itself in
- 53:58ancient Kemet, back during the
- 54:00matriarchy, involved rubbing the person
- 54:02with special oils, pastes, and
- 54:04alchemical preparations, wrapping them
- 54:06in linen, leaving them there, and using
- 54:09vocal vibrations.
- 54:13And later
- 54:14>> well, I think I'll start recording with
- 54:16frequencies. Yes, I once had a plan to.
- 54:19Well, but this is
- 54:20>> apparently there's 438 Hz there. The
- 54:23frequency in the Great Pyramid Stargate
- 54:25has been studied.
- 54:26And
- 54:27>> that's among others Tom Kenyon, there
- 54:28are such recordings.
- 54:30They recorded there, he used his own
- 54:32voice, and then those sounds were
- 54:33analyzed.
- 54:36But you know what's interesting, in
- 54:38ancient India there are techniques
- 54:39derived from Siddha medicine, the
- 54:41prototype of Ayurveda, called Kaya Kalpa
- 54:43.
- 54:45And today you can look it up on Google,
- 54:47it's nothing that isn't common knowledge
- 54:49.
- 54:49Even when we had a podcast with Dr. Dbag
- 54:51, an Ayurvedic physician living in
- 54:53Poland, he said that these Kaya Kalpa
- 54:55techniques are still used today, though
- 54:57not in the same spectrum. And what do
- 54:59they consist of? that you take an old
- 55:01person, someone 70, 80, 90 years old,
- 55:04>> who has lost their teeth
- 55:06>> often, you rub them with pastes, rub
- 55:07them with Ayurvedic herbal oils. They
- 55:10are, of course, properly prepared for
- 55:12this, meaning with molecules or
- 55:15>> wrapped in linen and placed in a small
- 55:17room.
- 55:18It used to be caves, today it's small
- 55:20rooms, because these practices are still
- 55:22applied, and you lock them in,
- 55:24>> So a so-called sarcophagus is created.
- 55:27A so-called sarcophagus is made, where
- 55:29this person spends several months, which
- 55:31is hard for us to imagine, because being
- 55:33locked up for several months...They have
- 55:35specially prepared herbal decoctions,
- 55:37meditation techniques, and so on, and
- 55:39they come out, their teeth grow back,
- 55:41their—and these are documented cases—
- 55:43their hair grows back, their nails grow
- 55:46back, they return several decades
- 55:47younger, and exactly the same thing was
- 55:49used among the Essenes.
- 55:52It was the so-called ritual of sepulture
- 55:54, or the tomb.
- 55:56also appearing in the Apocrypha cut from
- 55:58the Holy Scripture.
- 56:01There is a fantastic researcher,
- 56:03Margherita Dolg, who focuses on the
- 56:05tradition of immaculate conceptions, but
- 56:07also refers to this, where the exact
- 56:09same procedure was used for rejuvenation
- 56:11in those Essene structures from which
- 56:13Jesus originated.
- 56:19And just to finish this topic, later in
- 56:22patriarchal times, because even the
- 56:24so-called King Lists, or lists of
- 56:25pharaohs, mention it, there were huge
- 56:28gaps lasting, for example, 1,000 years
- 56:30between one civilization and another,
- 56:32between one dynasty and the next,
- 56:34meaning they had lost that knowledge.
- 56:41Later, it became a mummification ritual
- 56:43, where organs were removed and hidden
- 56:45in those individual jars, which were
- 56:47housed under that so-called sarcophagus
- 56:49, and they simply lost the knowledge of
- 56:51what it was for.
- 56:55>> So they probably forgot a bit where the
- 56:57beginning was.
- 56:58Yes. Yes.
- 57:02Listen, what do you think about Sobek,
- 57:04about the archetype of Sobek, the sacred
- 57:06crocodile—is that energy to be tamed in
- 57:09your opinion, or rather a conscious
- 57:10force that needs to be directed?
- 57:16>> As I told you earlier, according to that
- 57:18Hermetic law, everything exists
- 57:20repeatedly at every level of existence.
- 57:24Likewise, we read archetypes and those
- 57:26so-called deities, meaning we read the
- 57:29ether of that Sobek within our own
- 57:31energy system.
- 57:33>> So, like a receiver,
- 57:35>> but it is also within us, right? So that
- 57:37force that wants to break through the
- 57:39second chakra, the sacral chakra, it is
- 57:41there.
- 57:42It is connected to our subconscious.
- 57:44Beautiful—listen, I had a beautiful
- 57:47dream after we returned from Egypt. I
- 57:49dreamed it; on one hand it was
- 57:51terrifying, but on the other, I later
- 57:53dreamed a few versions of this work with
- 57:55my subconscious.
- 57:58Representing this subconscious—which the
- 58:00Vedas also speak of in the Vedic
- 58:02approach—the second chakra is connected
- 58:05to the element of water, to that ocean,
- 58:07right?
- 58:09And now, I had this scenario where I saw
- 58:11Karolina is a great swimmer. She was
- 58:14swimming there like a fish in water, and
- 58:16I was standing over a place we know well
- 58:18, which is also in Egypt. There is this
- 58:21beautiful diving spot where there is a
- 58:23coral reef all around, and inside, you
- 58:25just have to jump into the water.
- 58:28I am standing there trying to submerge,
- 58:30but I have fears about getting into that
- 58:32water, about making contact.
- 58:34I try to put my head in a little, but I
- 58:36pull back.
- 58:39And the realization came during the day
- 58:41that I don't fully want to make contact
- 58:43with those uncomfortable aspects of
- 58:45myself that are connected to the
- 58:46subconscious.
- 58:50>> And as you asked if it is to be tamed,
- 58:52our listeners probably also know the
- 58:54very famous epigeneticist, Bruce Lipton
- 58:56.
- 58:59>> He said—we recently listened to a
- 59:01lecture with him, one of his newer ones
- 59:03. He is a very venerable gentleman over
- 59:0580 now.
- 59:07But he said a beautiful thing, and these
- 59:09are research-based.
- 59:11Uh, regarding the fact that between the
- 59:13third month before birth and the seventh
- 59:15year of life, we are in brain waves that
- 59:17are dominant in the child and the embryo
- 59:18. These are still the waves, yes, that
- 59:21are responsible for hypnosis, meaning we
- 59:22literally hypnotize ourselves with
- 59:24everything we see, feel, hear, and
- 59:26observe from our parents. This
- 59:29>> It's a natural state and hypnosis
- 59:30happens to us very often, though we
- 59:32aren't aware of it and even repress that
- 59:34knowledge.
- 59:35>> Yes. Yes, absolutely. And listen, he
- 59:38explained it beautifully, that 90
- 59:40percent is researched.
- 59:4595%of the decisions we make are based on
- 59:47that hard drive we code for ourselves,
- 59:49the operating system we literally
- 59:51hypnotize ourselves with between the
- 59:53third month before birth and the age of
- 59:55seven.
- 1:00:01And that is our subconscious, our
- 1:00:03beliefs, our fears, our wounds,
- 1:00:05everything our inner child encoded as
- 1:00:07love.
- 1:00:09If we experienced a lot of fear in
- 1:00:10childhood, we will confuse love with
- 1:00:12fear.
- 1:00:14And that is the enormous power of our
- 1:00:15subconscious.
- 1:00:17That is the "self."
- 1:00:19And so, if we work with our subconscious
- 1:00:21—and that was what also fascinates us so
- 1:00:23incredibly about ancient Egypt—those
- 1:00:25initiations were deep work on the level
- 1:00:27of our emotional body as well.
- 1:00:31It was about releasing the records from
- 1:00:33our subconscious.
- 1:00:37Before an initiate in those schools—
- 1:00:39which later, in the dynastic period,
- 1:00:40often went underground and became
- 1:00:42corrupted—was allowed to open their
- 1:00:44senses, they worked with their inner
- 1:00:46child, their inner woman, meaning their
- 1:00:48female line, their male line, and so on
- 1:00:50.
- 1:00:53And now,
- 1:00:54>> what's interesting,
- 1:00:57the Nile represented the spine, and
- 1:00:59along it were temples, and those temples
- 1:01:01represent the chakras.
- 1:01:03Each temple has a different vibration.
- 1:01:05And now, by going there, we feel it; we
- 1:01:07connect to the field of that temple,
- 1:01:10that structure, because it's not just
- 1:01:12temples, but also pyramids.
- 1:01:16If we enter it consciously—meaning we
- 1:01:18always lead groups this way, by first
- 1:01:20having a lecture where we dive into a
- 1:01:22given structure, where we inform what a
- 1:01:24given chakra means, what we might
- 1:01:26encounter, so that the person entering,
- 1:01:28for example, the Temple of Sobek (the
- 1:01:30temple of Sobek is in Kom Ombo, it's a
- 1:01:32dualistic temple, it has two Holy of
- 1:01:34Holies), when, for instance, certain
- 1:01:36things might start to flow out of their
- 1:01:38subconscious, because that vibration is
- 1:01:40cleansing.
- 1:01:43>> Mhm. And that can be difficult and
- 1:01:45uncomfortable.
- 1:01:46So if we already know about this and
- 1:01:47enter with the intention that we want to
- 1:01:49release what is ready to be released,
- 1:01:51and we want to consciously engage in
- 1:01:53this work, truly amazing things happen.
- 1:01:58And then this crocodile, which can
- 1:01:59manifest destructive power and could
- 1:02:01harm us or someone else—because these
- 1:02:03things repressed in the subconscious can
- 1:02:05release energy in this way and we
- 1:02:07suddenly, I don't know, lash out at
- 1:02:09someone, or get into a fight, or act not
- 1:02:11for the good of all living beings, but
- 1:02:12quite the opposite—this crocodile will
- 1:02:14start to serve us.
- 1:02:19And that is a beautiful archetype and
- 1:02:21philosophy, you know, because it's us
- 1:02:23reading on one hand, and on the other
- 1:02:25hand, a lot of feeling also comes up
- 1:02:26later.
- 1:02:28I have the impression that when we enter
- 1:02:30these temples, things get triggered in
- 1:02:32us that we once used and information
- 1:02:33starts flowing regarding,
- 1:02:35>> so it's more of a memory. More of a
- 1:02:37>> memory. More of a memory. Yes, it's
- 1:02:39incredible.
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