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0:02breakfast morning everybody is DJ envy
0:06Angela Yee Charlemagne the guy we are
0:09The Breakfast Club gotta special guest
0:10in the building yes sir now we always
0:12seen a central park they feel when they
0:15see his name on the Central Park five
0:17that's what I know and now he's too
0:19young man the story was based off your
0:21lives so yusuf solemn that I said I
0:24write Salaam Salaam and Korey wise
0:26welcome sir can I ask you our brothers a
0:28question do y'all feel seen yet I
0:30think's I think now is yeah we're on a
0:33different Plateau now you know the whole
0:35globe is responding in blogger again and
0:38wanting to understand what happened
0:40especially as relates to the hashtag
0:42this is America kind of thing you know
0:44what's been happening in black and brown
0:46communities has been has been crazy but
0:50then you see this film when they see us
0:51and it's like oh this happened to the
0:53formerly known as Central Park five
0:55right but this is what's happening to
0:58black and brown people all around the
0:59globe right and so America is this petri
1:02dish of of you know I call it the
1:04criminal system of injustice you know
1:06that's the best thing about social media
1:08and everything that's going on and
1:10creating movies and Netflix and all
1:11these these these outlets I grew up in
1:14it so I lived it in I experienced it
1:16being from Queens and we seen it and
1:18we've seen the effect of media and the
1:21ads that Donald Trump took out but then
1:23you forget about it like lost it for for
1:25I don't even know how many years when he
1:26is yes thirty years thirty years now the
1:28fact that it's back and now is it can be
1:30documented and something that we can
1:31look at all and see how did you just do
1:35judicial system really affects this and
1:37takes advantage of our you you think
1:39about how those ads at Donald Trump took
1:40out also harms the whole situation like
1:43that should have been illegal of him
1:45asking them to bring back the death
1:46penalty and you know he still hasn't
1:49wrong right not at all but you know
1:52what's crazy about that right this ad
1:54this ad was taken out two weeks after we
1:58were accused we weren't even we weren't
2:00we hadn't even gone to trial yet mmm and
2:03so they looked at us and said oh yeah
2:04Cory looks like a rapist Yusef looks
2:08like a rapist Antron Kevin Raymond you
2:11don't have same date bait what they look
2:12like right black
2:13a black man a black man a person with
2:15this skin color if they're accused
2:17they're not they're not accused they're
2:19actually the culprit and that's the
2:20biggest problem of the criminal justice
2:22system they look at people and
2:24automatically cache judgment this man
2:27took out eighty five thousand dollars of
2:29his own money to pay for these ads to
2:31run in New York City's newspapers that's
2:33a lot that was a lot of money then
2:34that's a lot of money not money a lot of
2:35folks don't have eighty five thousand
2:36dollars sitting in the bank you know and
2:38so for him to do that it gave a nod to
2:41everybody in darkest place of society to
2:44then think about what can we do to these
2:46guys Pat Buchanan started writing about
2:48quarry in the papers he said let's take
2:51the eldest one and hang him from a tree
2:52in Central Park now you look at the
2:55series and you realize quarry wasn't
2:57even one he wasn't even a suspect right
2:59and two he became the magic that freed
3:02us he went down there for the support he
3:04came down a few right you know I mean
3:07and that's such an honorable noble thing
3:09man I always have this guy's back that
3:21you anticipate could happen because
3:23before that you're not thinking okay I'm
3:26gonna go down and see what's going on
3:27and then I'm gonna end up somehow
3:28getting accused of something because I'm
3:30sure you knew he didn't do anything
3:31wrong also yeah so I'm sure that that
3:35was nothing that you would anticipate
3:36you think that the legal systems in
3:38place to actually protect you and then
3:40you get down there and they did
3:42everything that you're not supposed to
3:43do now are those practices still legal
3:45today where you can actually they
3:48starved you they family members away
3:51from you [ __ ] happens right now
3:53you know it's you know what's what what
3:55the real law is the real law is white
3:59supremacy white male dominance that's
4:01the only law that is recognized in
4:03America I said all the time
4:04all white men have been the parasites at
4:06his country did a problem with this
4:07country and he [ __ ] up law even now
4:09from the abortion bill that everything
4:11is cuz of old white men talk about it
4:13man that's what it is and that's a
4:14problem I see one of the beautiful most
4:17beautiful things about this is that we
4:20survive this he did almost 14 years Cori
4:24what did your parents say when you went
4:26down there
4:27and they said you had nothing to do with
4:28this but you coming down here for your
4:30friend what did your parents say at that
4:33time
4:33oh she even know that I was dead she
4:36just heard I was there same but about
4:39Tom for her to catch up to me I was
4:40already gone hmm an ally
4:44I get the feeling Cory that whenever you
4:46you know I'll even see you on TV and so
4:47I was like it's still hard for you to
4:49talk about this stuff to a degree but at
4:52the same time it becomes therapy to me
4:55you guys all watch it together for the
4:57first time right yeah no that was that
5:01was hot I was without without route or
5:04anatomic ribbing
5:05being there with us at the time because
5:07the loss of his mother yeah but that was
5:10one of the hardest things I think to
5:11watch because there was already the
5:14assumption there we already knew what
5:15everybody went through already I said
5:17you know what should my time was like
5:19this
5:19Cory's time probably was like that as
5:21well and then when we saw it and we got
5:23an opportunity to see Cory's portrayal
5:28in this in this awesome film when they
5:31see us it blew our mind right but he was
5:34in real hell we was in paradise hmm I
5:37mean that's how I described like we was
5:39in I was in maximum a security youth
5:41facilities he was in gladiator school
5:44everybody knows Rikers Island we're
5:45right to around the globe right I mean
5:50so pretty much as I find myself learning
5:52from the documentary up to now this
5:56would be well yeah we Idol but I was
5:59feeling from him and I was inside mm-hmm
6:01I've haven't been learning from the
6:03documentary documentary which one being
6:06in there I know now I understand what my
6:10son was coming from hmm and that's hard
6:13because it was like you know you you you
6:15said one day recently you said this
6:18right here was Donald Trump placing a
6:21bounty on our heads
6:22absolutely and all of the hell that he
6:25experienced all of the the fact that he
6:27had to fight for his life for real you
6:29see them saying um sure you say that you
6:33this is life after death for you yeah
6:35you say that that Corey died in prison
6:37you see them saying so the
6:40even the emergence of who Corey is now
6:44is like I've heard him say man he's
6:46fighting for the quarry that couldn't
6:48fight he's fighting for those quarries
6:50do you forgive everybody involved the
6:53woman to processes let's people say
6:56forgiving is the best therapy or things
6:58like that do you forgive as of lately
7:12when they showed the new the new 30
7:16years later 20 20 did I find myself
7:21looking at all the players involved and
7:24even she didn't she didn't have nothing
7:27to do with the rest of it
7:29oh she I do just here but about braised
7:32potatoes and keep it moving but she
7:35stuck around for the rest talk about the
7:39victim herself and I found myself
7:42getting an extra from her know as far as
7:45the lawsuit and everything and some
7:48Supreme Court is she like well I felt at
7:51a the judge should've waited besides
7:56nothing to do with you you got your
7:59little money just has nothing to do with
8:00you already found out who my elated you
8:03my state of mind keep all for that don't
8:07know don't be don't get extra with that
8:09cuz our hands is not on your dining room
8:11table don't put yours on our or we get
8:14so when I'm hearing dad these people
8:18have so prejudiced man you just Falls I
8:23concern in the eye you just belong on
8:25welfare you stay on welfare mmm
8:28everyone's white kids I believe we
8:32should give them more so that's why I
8:34got from them so so long so every son
8:37from now you know as far as all the
8:39Knockouts was concerned I get it from
8:43the world's famous picture where Ali and
8:46I think sunny listeners on him and he
8:48was on the ground so that's what the
8:50movie is doing to the system there's
8:51knocking everybody out
8:52yeah yeah
8:54not in the mouth it's taking them out as
8:57I find myself learning the district
8:59attorney passed away before his
9:01hundredth birthday so I'm I was glad
9:04that he overturned it and took it to his
9:08grave with her mm-hmm because if he
9:10overturned it it been about another 30
9:1440 more years for another District
9:16Attorney to overturn the case houses Wow
9:19how did it affect y'all personally that
9:21the judicial system is still flawed so
9:24many years after y'all wrongful
9:26conviction what I think to echo what
9:28Corey saying you know we're looking at a
9:30victim who's white who in her privilege
9:34bug in her victimhood there's still
9:36privilege you see them saying and so
9:39everything is pointed to the fact that
9:40we had nothing to do with it but yet her
9:43doctors are saying but your injuries are
9:44more consistent with a gang rape like
9:48the DNA deoxyribonucleic acid proved
9:50that we didn't do nothing
9:51we had nothing to do with this you know
9:53and so I felt like this this there's so
9:56much that we still have to do there's so
9:59many future generations that we have to
10:01affect we got to plant seeds in their
10:04minds and in their hearts so that they
10:06understand that they are the answers
10:08that we seek
10:09you know what I'm saying so we go around
10:10the country we go around the world and
10:12we speak we've done it as individuals
10:14we've done it collectively you don't I'm
10:16saying I started a company called Yusef
10:17speaks you know I serve I sell my
10:19merchandise which is like my poetry book
10:21I sell my hats I sell shirts
10:23I saw all kinds of things and I'm coming
10:25out with a lot more stuff I've created
10:26this right here this is what I call like
10:29the freedom medal you don't I'm saying
10:30the only thing that I need to change
10:32about this is even though it says cp5 I
10:34need to change it on the bottom to
10:36exonerate it five or and I want to marry
10:39those two because the reality is that I
10:41what they did to us as a people and
10:43continue to do is I our friend and
10:48teacher dr. Angela Davis she said we as
10:51a people have historical amnesia but the
10:54fact that the matter is that we've been
10:56socialized not to know they keep
10:59information from us that's right so that
11:02as we look at the landscape we say damn
11:04this is brand-new man they just started
11:06shooting people in the back know they've
11:07been doing
11:08in all communities for years this is
11:10America this is the criminal system of
11:12injustice is how things have been and so
11:15we have a long way to go but I feel like
11:17we're knocking it down like Cory said we
11:19got them on the roasts because the whole
11:21globe is beginning to respond to what's
11:23going on right merica they're responding
11:25to this case but this case is a
11:27microcosm of the macrocosm of cases just
11:30like it this is only the one maybe one
11:32of the most famous examples of cases
11:35just like this and for people who didn't
11:37know about it from you know the next
11:38generation that weren't alive and were
11:40inexperienced in this in New York when
11:42it happened
11:43the docu-series actually brought so much
11:45attention and you know people that had
11:48no idea what happened with that story
11:49people still thought because Donald
11:50Trump still won't say that you guys
11:52weren't guilty they thought that they
11:54like they just had no idea what the true
11:56story was behind it yeah so for yourself
11:58doing this docu-series for you guys and
12:00seeing it get nominated for what 16 16
12:0416 I mean we gonna be at the Emmys on
12:07Sunday and seeing that it was like what
12:11the best the best docu-series the
12:14most-watched docu-series on Netflix yes
12:16ever seeing it break all those records
12:19right what does that mean to you man it
12:24was all a dream yeah I appear to be you
12:29know just a beautiful beautiful sight to
12:34see that are better people they they
12:40bond and they be getting of the order in
12:43the flood and join the fray and
12:45something new today
12:47and it just enjoying I'm just glad that
12:51uh be there what was the first thing you
12:54guys did when you when you guys got out
12:55mmm and they released you what was the
12:57first thing so you know we came out
12:59staggered right
13:00and by staggered I'm talking about a
13:01long stack right I came out seven years
13:03later he came out 14 years later my
13:06first day out I tried on all my old
13:10clothes I could still fit it I put on a
13:12triple fashion column it wasn't stabbed
13:15and my sister saw me she was like yo
13:17where that it looks good for don't wait
13:19I literally had the triple fat goose
13:20with the fur on the collar and I'm
13:22checking myself out in the mirror like
13:23man i'ma wear this you know to say and
13:25then I came across this right here I
13:28came across a box of letters that I had
13:31never seen before a lot of them had no
13:35return address but they were sent to us
13:37we all we all received this stuff but
13:40then I picked up one and as I'm reading
13:42it I realized my mother had received
13:46this type of stuff while we were first
13:49arrested and she had been dealing with
13:51the prison of what it's like to be in be
13:54free like be be a parent and have a
13:56loved one in prison right that was a
13:58hard thing this was this letter right
14:00here just to kind of give you an idea of
14:02my reality when I came home this letter
14:05says to use of Salaam this letters to
14:07let you know that your name has been
14:09placed on the list of enemies of society
14:11by the citizens army New York City
14:13branch you became you made a decision
14:15when you became one of the pack that
14:17decided that Central Park was your arena
14:19and decided to attack and violate honest
14:22citizens who happen to be in the park
14:24now this is the part that's a kicker so
14:26just remember that even 20 to 30 years
14:30from now some of us will never forget
14:32and maybe the one time that you don't
14:34check your back is the one time that
14:37somebody might just be there to say
14:38hello hmm and so you think about like
14:41where we are in in the country in the
14:43Donald Trump this is Donald Trump some
14:45yeah this is an America where herida
14:47resident yeah absolutely this isn't a
14:49ratio I mean at the end of the day
14:51people are people show sides
14:54they've always picked sides and we've
14:56been the ones that they've already said
14:58you know what we're expendable
15:00absolutely and on you a mutant animal
15:02with no conscience but that was this was
15:05sent to all of us McCrory what was the
15:06first thing that you did when you when
15:08you got on top so I thought a roof over
15:13my head
15:13mmm-hmm roof over my head and and and
15:18just pretty much from there just how to
15:21find me where's my mother and we're from
15:29there
15:33what's my brothers my brothers are my
15:35brothers part of town he couldn't deal
15:38with me the Scrambler he couldn't deal
15:43with you cuz you was still you still had
15:44at the jail mentality could've been or
15:46just he does not have he just not used
15:49to having having a kid around no I don't
15:51mean no but he's just you know I'm
15:54hearing but as I was hammering all the
15:56negative coming from him it was just
15:58building me up okay so me somehow I got
16:02you
16:03and I just does this this it was rough
16:09it was rough for me to get where I'm at
16:11today so pretty much why I'm at today
16:14you know just that's how me people feel
16:17it now
16:18it helped me not can't help you you took
16:22a lot of loss in prison to record you
16:24lost your sister and ain't a girlfriend
16:26right now they both died yeah did you
16:29ever get a chance to properly grieve
16:30either one of them no no no I guess my
16:36only way of my only way of grieving
16:39would be just watching a movie
16:41mmm that's wrong if I don't watch it
16:44like that so when I do watch it it
16:46becomes brand new to me and I'm gonna
16:48become brand new to me and maybe one
16:50look at my brother here just punch him
16:51in his shoulder I mean but that's real
16:55talk because at the end of the day his
16:57pain came from the decision that he made
17:00to come down to be my ace and all right
17:02but you know not understanding anything
17:04about the law a lot of times now if we
17:07see somebody being arrested or something
17:09like that we like yeah we know our
17:10rights right no we start talking to the
17:12cops but Miranda says you have the right
17:15to remain silent anything you say can
17:17and will be used against you in a court
17:20of law if you fail to remain silent and
17:22so not even not even being wise enough
17:25to understand the the the the chess move
17:30that was being played on us you see them
17:32saying yeah and I and it's so crazy for
17:34me because I feel so I'm this is my
17:39brother and I'm indebted to him in a way
17:42that is
17:43indescribable right because not only did
17:46he make the decision to come down but
17:49when you see the when you see the series
17:51you've realized that people aren't built
17:54the way he was built right it's still
17:55his bill right they came to get him at
17:57one point he's in his cell and they said
18:00hey man get ready we're going to your
18:02parole hearing and he's like no I'm not
18:04going
18:05and like you're not going he said no if
18:08they don't want to hear my truth I don't
18:10want to waste my time like imagine if he
18:14would have said let me just say anything
18:16to get out of here the story never would
18:19have been told we just still had this
18:21cloud of suspicion over our heads he
18:25bumped into the real dude that did it
18:27you know I'm saying like I look at it
18:30from a more spiritual perspective that
18:32everybody that was supposed to be
18:34players in this was in the right
18:36position when you bumped into that do
18:38hmm what was your mentality then cuz it
18:43had to be I'm Achilles [ __ ] if you kill
18:46him you won't be able to first thing
18:48that's on your mind like you got me here
18:56it's two times that he ran into him no
18:59so that's the thing like first time when
19:01I run away when I came across when I
19:02came across Reyes I came across Reyes
19:07when I was sitting in the day room
19:09watching TV on the island he came
19:14through after he came nobody can't when
19:17I saw it is just talk he's beginning to
19:19talk about his rap sheet what he did so
19:22I'm looking at now I recognize a few
19:24other officers I was behind her and I'm
19:28like you know the thought came to me
19:29once how could he have something to do
19:30with this hair but that was it until
19:34before we fought in the dayroom about TV
19:38because I watch her about the Y's Video
19:40Music Box at the time ralphie game and
19:44he was looking for he was looking for
19:47the Spanish station and before let's do
19:52a scarf from hell
19:53Thank You various and uh shortly after
19:57that
19:58don't over shut that had caught up to
20:00him of State and Auburn I'm getting oak
20:04I'm getting no quarantine and Albarn is
20:09like Oh God
20:12it's like a it's like a 70s movie
20:15everything everything everything
20:17everything is in a yard so you got to go
20:20to yard to get what you gotta get and
20:23it's saying something you come to when
20:24you go to the yard you got about 20
20:27about 20,000 people out there in the
20:30yard wait this don't know and when I was
20:35coming through my property
20:36I saw a is playing stickball and you
20:41know wasn't repetitive panting oh my boy
20:43he's having a good time and like I said
20:44I guess rumor got to him was the wisest
20:52in the area he's in the Builder so
20:59everybody's in program one day if I was
21:03in program anybody's coming out of
21:06program so point everybody's coming out
21:09of program so like it I got saved where
21:13anybody's coming out of program the
21:14whole the whole morning y'all look like
21:17the late afternoon late afternoon
21:20wrecked hominy in the yard so a bison
21:23you're about good 30 about click 30,000
21:26of us in the yard so Reyes sees me on
21:30the basketball court he comes my way
21:34when he comes my way to go you guys I
21:38said wanna know Sammy I said mom pose
21:42recognized you from so Rikers Island no
21:45we had a fight over the TV
21:47and let there don't want to go there
21:50with you breathe I will go there with
21:52you ring it's 13 years late about so I'm
21:54like oh so he's just talking why you
21:57still got the scar on your face right I
21:59wanna I wanna I wanna I wanna do this
22:02with you now
22:03so he's still talking to me kickin it
22:07with me
22:07he's going over my head but I'm catching
22:09it a little bit
22:10Oh yo you religious I said now I'm not
22:13neutral so you just come come to the
22:17chapel area I'd be down there I say okay
22:19one day so the door opened up sorry
22:23about time to glass they see each other
22:25when we see each other so it's time to
22:27go guys after the cell so you say about
22:31the next day I had went to breakfast it
22:36was a heavy gray cloud in the mess hall
22:39mi was looking a buddy was looking at
22:41each other but more so it's like 90
22:43percent looking at me something grabbed
22:45my breakfast to get out of here I ain't
22:47trying to eat nope cuz everytime
22:50everywhere every every way I walked was
22:55somethin goin down fite something is
22:59always something someone bad and then my
23:09door opened up I had closed it ok that's
23:13what he doing when everybody get back
23:15from child
23:15close the bag don't open up you weren't
23:22doing it in the chaplains office huh so
23:25I felt like it felt like a movie like
23:27whoa no okay I don't think I want to go
23:29I already know the answer to that so my
23:32new next-door neighbor like Oh big home
23:34in Co take a walk down soon let's take a
23:37walk down and leave it solo Paris okay
23:39let's see you the blood kiss when went
23:42down
23:43there's my mom picked it out and she's
23:48just hysterical I remember so you know a
23:54guy who you ran that ran into you up
23:58there with you when he loved you so much
24:00he cleared your name I said huh he
24:03cleared your name okay and then I can
24:06say from there my mom's came up there
24:10with a few people from channel 7 that
24:14they had that phone conversation with
24:17mr. Reyes
24:19then they farm so moving ray is out but
24:23they didn't they didn't what they
24:24skeletons to be exposed by John seven so
24:27they moved them to move them to Clinton
24:30down the mall so we talked and and it
24:39was just good so how you want how you
24:42want to do that sir ready to come on
24:43whatever so I had to come home warm
24:46parole so I came home or parole it was
24:50good it was a beautiful feeling I gotta
24:55leave yeah I got a part of me but you
24:56know thank you guys okay and the reason
24:59I say thank you is because you opened up
25:00a conversation when Ava was here Ava
25:03Duvernay was here we opened up a
25:04conversation to help teach these you
25:06just teach kids what to do when they get
25:09pulled over what they need to say what
25:11they need to watch out for and what they
25:12need to be careful for and even the
25:14parents what they can do a lot of times
25:16that conversation has not had in our
25:18community you know we always want to
25:20give the middle finger we always try to
25:21talk ourselves out out of a situation
25:22but sometimes like you said it's being
25:25quiet is the best way to get ourselves
25:26some do you and thank you guys man
25:28thank you listens how did it was
25:31depiction of the story changed our life
25:32this far wow I think in a good way
25:36because she was able to take this story
25:39that all of the all of the negative
25:43players meaning like the system she was
25:45able to take the story and turn it
25:47inside out so that people can see the
25:48humanized version of us to understand
25:51what was really at stake that we didn't
25:53deserve that that we literally had a
25:55huge chunk of our lives taken away from
25:57us and a lot of us do
25:59and here we came back and we were able
26:03to survive somehow
26:04you know I didn't know the details
26:06either right and the details was the
26:08stuff that they didn't want you to know
26:09on purpose because they wanted people to
26:11think just like the jogger right they
26:14wanted everybody to think including the
26:16jogger that they had done their job
26:18right there case closed we saw this case
26:21yeah but they were so they were so
26:23invested with this case and here it is
26:27all of our families all of the people
26:29that was supporting us was like you got
26:30the wrong guys these guys didn't do it
26:32you had Kevin Richardson who was picked
26:34up that night with Raymond Santana no
26:37four wins I mean he had
26:38Kevin saying that she scratched him
26:40there's no forensic evidence underneath
26:42her fingernails like no skin from Kevin
26:45is underneath her fingernails there's no
26:47evidence that anybody was in the park
26:49near this woman
26:50but yeah you're painting this picture
26:52like you've got the right people and
26:55because they got stuck with that lie
26:58there could have been a young pregnant
27:00Latino woman who was his next victim she
27:03could have been alive today absolutely
27:04her unborn child could have been
27:06absolutely that's why I never understood
27:08I'm like wouldn't it benefit the
27:10community for you to actually go get the
27:11right person but this is America this is
27:16how the justice system always operates
27:18you know what I'm saying and if they do
27:19get the right person right the right
27:22person I mean if you happen to have a
27:25name like Dylan roof right and they come
27:27and get you
27:28you get some Birkin they take you to
27:29Burger King you know they catch you
27:31alive right and the crazy thing is he
27:34would have never confessed right if
27:36Reyes would have never said it was him
27:37you guys names might never have they
27:40would have never cleared and you got to
27:41think how many people are still in that
27:42situation who didn't commit a crime in
27:44jail and then it's not even just once
27:47you get out you have that record but
27:48people really believe that you are a
27:51rapist yeah
27:52it Reyes I just made a sneak out it is I
27:57out of my brain it Reyes resident had
28:03governor Pataki at that time his State
28:07of Mind was for his bro his parole board
28:11if these if these guy if this guy here
28:16or if this if this guy here don't comply
28:21with his programs the parole board was
28:24allowed to hit you passionate max I said
28:28huh so anybody that they had a serious
28:32case going on and they would be they had
28:34refused to a special program there the
28:38parole board just had a history passion
28:40max so so my time was not so big I came
28:45in in with father fits in so my time
28:47when I had been 15 a life yeah
28:51they've raised whenever this is the
28:52crazy part and then you got out with
28:55still on parole yeah even though I came
28:57home I came on parole but it was it was
29:01it was it was thinking about uh don't
29:06ankle brace wrong me and they said uh I
29:09think we did I think we did hear
29:10something north on the Ray is coming for
29:14four so normally we won't let the wall
29:16let's leave that alone for now no Valen
29:18will give you no bracelet just every two
29:22weeks this come true until we tell you
29:25not to come through no more wow I'm
29:30looking at all them letters man
29:31somebody's anyone to castrate you oh
29:33yeah yeah when did that ever stop that
29:36hate mail I think it changed I mean I
29:39think I feel like there's a lot more
29:41supporters now than there were back then
29:44even when we came home from prison it
29:45wasn't popular to be one of us we took
29:47that Central Park jogger brand and we
29:50rose to the occasion and was like yeah
29:52we're one of them you know I'm saying
29:53and so we took it and made it like a
29:55cape frost you know a superpower whereas
29:58there was a lot of folks who even to
30:00this day I'm telling people about Donald
30:02Trump and they're like nah he's not like
30:04that
30:04yeah eyes you your eyes are lying to you
30:07because we've seen all kind of other
30:09stuff that has been going on but this
30:11right here he did this and in here he
30:14says something like and this is this is
30:15kind of like after you read the bulk of
30:18it he says criminals must be told that
30:20there's civil liberties in one attack on
30:23our safety begins if through the
30:25Thirteenth Amendment they're looking at
30:27black and brown folks that clearly
30:29states that we can turn you back to a
30:31slave for the punishment and so if
30:33they're looking at brown black and brown
30:34folks as the criminal element and who is
30:37who is he talking about the our civil
30:41liberties is the constituents that don't
30:44look like absolutely what would you say
30:46to Linda Fierstein now if you had if you
30:49could say something to her for her to
30:50here suck a dick hmm
30:53[Laughter]
31:00oh I guess I would say basically take
31:05and for saving my life I don't know how
31:08my life would have turned out you know
31:11man what do you mean by it uh what do
31:13you mean by that wait you think she
31:14saved your life
31:19because she put me in the toilet in the
31:21best situation and at the same time when
31:25I'm me being a kid I don't know how my
31:27time with my life would I had talked to
31:28her about graduate from high school
31:31college work so she does know I guess
31:36she just she put she just put easy easy
31:38money in my pocket mmm but huh messing
31:41up yeah but she took away a lot a lot of
31:44your life we we we we were when I said
31:52when I spoke before and I said we were
31:54all placed in this case on purpose the
31:57beautiful thing about this is that for
31:59us to be survivors for us to realize
32:01that we have come back power that we we
32:03came back from sudden death
32:05you don't know saying you look at a
32:07person like Linda fasting and you've
32:10realized she Elizabeth lettera
32:13the officers that were involved the
32:16media that that wrote the story in a way
32:19that made sure that the public opinion
32:20was swayed to make sure we got convicted
32:22all of those people were working for
32:26evil yes without even realizing it like
32:29you here you are you're trying to get
32:31ahead in life like in a series on one of
32:34the attorneys comes to Linda ferrocene
32:35and says you know can you at least give
32:37them a fighting chance and she says this
32:40is not about law anymore this is about
32:42politics so they're talking about
32:44whether you live or die they're talking
32:46about building their careers off of our
32:48backs what I want people to understand
32:50is that look at where we are now 30
32:53years later nobody would have ever
32:54thought that this truth would have came
32:56out and that everybody else that was
32:59involved not only are we trying to find
33:01out what went wrong with the Central
33:03Park jogger case but we're trying to
33:05figure out what other cases did they did
33:07they do this to as well that's the
33:10collateral effect of this you know
33:13well we appreciate you guys so much for
33:15coming through because that was an
33:16incredible series we're happy to have
33:18you here with us
33:20regardless of anything else that
33:22happened and I hope y'all win all the
33:24goddamn Emmys man man thank you for that
33:30stay away from white women about you I
33:36brought y'all some gifts too by the way
33:38I got some shirts and t-shirts and some
33:40hoodies and all that stuff for your I
33:42got my bag of tricks down here this is
33:47all good as a matter of fact I was
33:49talking about this the me changing the
33:51bottom of this to the exonerated five
33:54and this is the brand new shirts that I
33:56came out with so on the bottom of the
33:57shirts it actually says the exonerated
33:59father so this is this is my with my
34:03drawings don't get a large okay cool
34:13thank you
34:14Corian Yousef thank you for coming man
34:16and Duff we appreciate you having us
34:18thank you thank you it's The Breakfast
34:20Club
34:25[Music]

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