You won't believe what Pete Rose had to say about Sandy Koufax and Don Sutton | THE HERD — Transcript

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1. 0:00Sandy Koufax?
2. 0:01Oh,
3. 0:02no. I hit 175 off Sandy Koufax.
4. 0:04to ask this cuz I'm going to get I'm
5. 0:05going to get weird on you, okay? He's
6. 0:07the only athlete in my life I saw Wilt
7. 0:10play. I saw Ali box. The only athlete in
8. 0:12my life that I never saw play that I
9. 0:15really wish I did was Sandy Koufax.
10. 0:18unbelievable.
11. 0:19Okay, now now now, I want you to
12. 0:21explain. I'm driving around my car and
13. 0:23I'm listening to Pete Rose on the radio.
14. 0:24You step into the batter's box against
15. 0:26Sandy Koufax. You're young. You're 22.
16. 0:29Yeah.
17. 0:29Take me to what it was like cuz you have
18. 0:31an I know you're thinking in your head
19. 0:32right now. You remember the at bats.
20. 0:34I got 10 for 57 off of him.
21. 0:37Get your calculator. That's 175.
22. 0:39When you don't hit your weight off of a
23. 0:41pitcher, you're doing pretty bad, okay?
24. 0:43And I weighed 202 when I played. So, I
25. 0:45was hoping to hit 200 off Sandy Koufax.
26. 0:48I I couldn't hit it. Listen, he had a
27. 0:50great fastball. I can't do it. I could
28. 0:52do it with this.
29. 0:53All right, here it goes. He's moving to
30. 0:54a melon on the set.
31. 0:55great fastball, right? And he had a
32. 0:57curveball broke like that.
33. 1:00Just tell me
34. 1:00you going to hit that curveball? My
35. 1:02first 3 years in the league, he struck
36. 1:03out over a thousand. He got 382 in 1965.
37. 1:09382 strikeouts in one year.
38. 1:11Was his fastball 90
39. 1:12a rising fastball and that big
40. 1:14curveball. You don't know this, but he
41. 1:15went to the University of Cincinnati.
42. 1:17Basketball player?
43. 1:18Yeah, absolutely. Because he's got these
44. 1:20real long fingers and he wrapped that
45. 1:21curveball. Just be happy you didn't have
46. 1:23to face Sandy Koufax.
47. 1:25Did you strike out a few times?
48. 1:26Probably.
49. 1:28Probably. I struck out off of Nolan
50. 1:30Ryan. I struck off struck out off of
51. 1:32Marichal,
52. 1:33Gibson, Carlton, Seaver, all those Hall
53. 1:36of Fame pitchers.
54. 1:37Yeah, but you hit a lot of them, too.
55. 1:39Who was the best pitcher that you had a
56. 1:40320 average against?
57. 1:42Warren Spahn.
58. 1:45He didn't pitch You didn't play against
59. 1:46Warren
60. 1:4717 for 32 off of him.
61. 1:50What What year did Warren Spahn I
62. 1:52thought they they they
63. 1:53Cole, I'm not going to lie to you.
64. 1:55I I'm not going to lie to you.
65. 1:58I
66. 1:59I hit .307 off Bob Gibson.
67. 2:01What about Don Sutton?
68. 2:02Oh, I wore his ass out.
69. 2:04Oh, yeah.
70. 2:05Oh, man. Oh, man. I wore Don Sutton Two
71. 2:07guys on the Dodgers I wore out. Don
72. 2:09Sutton and Bob Welch.
73. 2:11Oh, I I could have went up blindfolded
74. 2:13and got hits off those guys.
75. 2:15I mean, really. I mean I mean, Ray
76. 2:18Charles could hit Don Sutton.
77. 2:20And Ray had a hard time seeing the ball,
78. 2:22man.
79. 2:22Yeah, he did. He There's no question. We
80. 2:24all know that.
81. 2:25Pedro
82. 2:26I just You have certain guys you just
83. 2:27see the ball good and and their breaking
84. 2:29ball didn't bother you. But, I I had a
85. 2:31good success all the time.
86. 2:32a .307 on Bob Gibson.
87. 2:34Yeah, he was he was the most aggressive
88. 2:35pitcher I ever faced.
89. 2:37Yeah. He He was could be mean.
90. 2:39Yeah, I think the best pitcher I ever
91. 2:40faced, but I still hit .340 off him was
92. 2:42Juan Marichal. I mean, Juan Marichal had
93. 2:45five pitches he threw for strikes at any
94. 2:46given time. He kicked that leg up like
95. 2:49that and he'd stand there Candlestick
96. 2:51Park and he'd wait for the wind to blow
97. 2:53where you're about to, you know, uh
98. 2:55Go
99. 2:55this with your eyes and then he'd throw
100. 2:56the ball.
101. 2:57Yeah.
102. 2:57Because it it was terrible. I mean,
103. 2:59Candlestick Park was terrible to play
104. 3:02baseball in.
105. 3:03Yeah.
106. 3:03And the clubhouse was all the way down
107. 3:05the right field line. And we're on the
108. 3:06on the third base side. So,
109. 3:08consequently, you don't go to the
110. 3:09clubhouse during the game. So, if you
111. 3:11got diarrhea, you were in trouble.
112. 3:13need to go there. We We the the
113. 3:14interview's almost over, Pedro.