'You Just Lied': Elon Musk Slaughters BBC Reporter In Live Interview — Transcript

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1. 0:00free speech is meaningless unless you
2. 0:02allow people uh you don't like to say
3. 0:05things you don't like otherwise it's
4. 0:07irrelevant um and if at the point of
5. 0:09which you lose Free Speech uh it doesn't
6. 0:12come
7. 0:12back I I think the issue some people
8. 0:15have is that a lot of people were
9. 0:16brought back I mean some people were
10. 0:18brought back who uh were previously
11. 0:20banned for spreading things like uh Q
12. 0:22andon conspiracies you have people like
13. 0:23Andrew Tate who were brought back who
14. 0:25were previously uh banned for things
15. 0:27like hate speech do you think you
16. 0:29prioritize freedom of of speech
17. 0:32over misinformation and hate
18. 0:36speech well you know who's to say that
19. 0:39something something is
20. 0:41misinformation
21. 0:43um who's the aitor of
22. 0:45that is it the
23. 0:49BBC you literally asking me yes well no
24. 0:52you are you are the Arbiter on Twitter
25. 0:55because you own Twitter yes I'm saying
26. 0:56who who is to say that one person's
27. 0:58misinformation is another person's
28. 1:01information um at the point of which you
29. 1:03you said that there is uh this is misin
30. 1:06like who is going to misformation can be
31. 1:08dangerous that it can cause real world
32. 1:10harms that it can potentially cause um
33. 1:12yes and the point I'm trying to make is
34. 1:13that the BBC itself has at times publish
35. 1:16things that are
36. 1:19false do you agree that that has
37. 1:21occurred I I I I I I'm quite sure the
38. 1:23BBC have said things before that turn
39. 1:26out to not be true in its whatever it is
40. 1:29100 Year history I'm quite sure yes even
41. 1:31if you aspire to be accurate there are
42. 1:34times when you you will not be we've
43. 1:36spoken to people very recently who were
44. 1:38involved in moderation and they just say
45. 1:40they just there's not enough people to
46. 1:41police this stuff particularly around um
47. 1:44particularly around hate speech um in
48. 1:46the company what hate speech are you
49. 1:48talking about I mean you use Twitter
50. 1:50right do you see aise in hate speech I
51. 1:52mean just a personal anecdote like what
52. 1:54did do I don't personally my uh for you
53. 1:59I would see get I get more of that kind
54. 2:01of content yeah personally but I'm not
55. 2:03going to talk to talk to the rest of for
56. 2:05for the rest of Twitter you see more
57. 2:06hate speech personally I would say I
58. 2:08would see more hateful content in that
59. 2:10in that content you don't like or or
60. 2:13hateful what do you mean to describe a
61. 2:14hateful thing yeah I mean you know just
62. 2:17content that will solicit a reaction
63. 2:20something that may include something
64. 2:22that is slightly racist or slightly
65. 2:24sexist those kinds of those kinds of
66. 2:26things so you think if something is
67. 2:27slightly sexist it should be vent
68. 2:30I no you're I'm not saying anything I'm
69. 2:32saying I'm just curious I'm I'm trying
70. 2:34to understand what you mean by hateful
71. 2:35content and I'm asking for specific
72. 2:38examples um and if and you just said
73. 2:41that if something is slightly sexist
74. 2:44that's hateful content does that mean
75. 2:46that it should be banned well you've
76. 2:47asked me you've asked me whether my feed
77. 2:50whether it's got less or more I'd say
78. 2:52it's got slightly more that's why I'm
79. 2:54asking for examples can can you name one
80. 2:56example I I honestly don't honestly I
81. 2:59can't name a single example I'll tell
82. 3:00you why cuz I don't actually use that
83. 3:01for you feed anymore because I I just
84. 3:03don't particularly like it actually a
85. 3:05lot of people a lot of people are quite
86. 3:06similar I I I only hang on a second you
87. 3:09said you've seen more hateful content
88. 3:10but you can't name a single example not
89. 3:12even one I'm not sure I've used that
90. 3:14feed for the last three or four weeks
91. 3:16and I well then how did you see the
92. 3:18hateful cont content because I've been
93. 3:20I've been using I've been using twistter
94. 3:21since you've taken over for the last six
95. 3:22months okay so then you must have at
96. 3:23some point seen that you for you hateful
97. 3:25content I'm asking for one example right
98. 3:28you can't give a single one and I'm
99. 3:30I then I I say so that you don't know
100. 3:32what you're talking about really yes
101. 3:33because you can't give me a single
102. 3:34example of hateful content not even one
103. 3:37tweet and yet you claimed that the
104. 3:39hateful content was high well that's a
105. 3:42false no what I claim you just lied what
106. 3:45no no what I claim was uh there are many
107. 3:48uh organizations that say that that kind
108. 3:50of information is on the rise now
109. 3:52whether whether it has
110. 3:54on I mean right and some like the the
111. 3:57Strategic dialogue uh Institute in the
112. 4:00UK they will say that so look people
113. 4:03will say all sorts of nonsense I'm
114. 4:04literally asking for a single example
115. 4:06and you can't name one right and as as
116. 4:08I've already said I don't use that feed
117. 4:09but how would you know I don't think
118. 4:11this is getting anywhere you literally
119. 4:12said you experienced more hateful
120. 4:14content and then couldn't name a single
121. 4:16example right and as I said I that's
122. 4:17absurd I haven't I haven't actually
123. 4:19looked at that feed then how would you
124. 4:21know this content because I'm saying
125. 4:23that's what I saw a few weeks ago I
126. 4:25can't give you an exact example let's
127. 4:27move on we have we only have a certain
128. 4:28amount of time um Co
129. 4:32misinformation you Chang you change the
130. 4:34co misinformation has BBC changed his Co
131. 4:38misinformation the BBC does not set the
132. 4:40rules on Twitter so I'm asking you no
133. 4:42I'm talking about the BBC's
134. 4:43misinformation about
135. 4:47Co I'm I'm I'm literally asking you
136. 4:49about you changed the labels the co
137. 4:51misinformation labels they used to be a
138. 4:53policy and
139. 4:55then then
140. 4:57disappeared why why do that
141. 5:01well Co is no longer an
142. 5:06issue does the BBC uh hold itself at all
143. 5:10responsible for misinformation regarding
144. 5:14ma masking and and side effects of
145. 5:17vaccinations and not reporting on that
146. 5:19at
147. 5:20all and what about the fact that the BBC
148. 5:23was put under pressure by the British
149. 5:24government to change its editorial
150. 5:26policy are you aware of
151. 5:28that this is this is not an interview
152. 5:31about the BBC oh you thought it
153. 5:33wasn't and this I see now why you've
154. 5:35done Twitter spaces I am not a
155. 5:37representative of the BBC's editorial
156. 5:38policy I want to make that clear let's
157. 5:40talk about something else you want to
158. 5:41talk about BC all right let's let's
159. 5:43let's talk about let's talk about
160. 5:44something else you weren't expecting
161. 5:45that