Yossi Ghinsberg's full interview for The Discovery Channel — Transcript

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1. 0:04[Music]
2. 0:08the reason why I came to South America
3. 0:11was one reason it was very clear to
4. 0:14me I wanted an adventure I was very very
5. 0:19naive brigh eyed open to the world
6. 0:21everything is possible there was an X
7. 0:25with a pen car said the Indians are
8. 0:28there we had reason not to believe him
9. 0:31as we set off from ASAS we started
10. 0:34seeing you know like things were
11. 0:36changing and we weren't exactly the same
12. 0:39people
13. 0:41already and I think the reason for it
14. 0:44was that we knew we Liv in Civilization
15. 0:46behind and this is it just the four of
16. 0:50us we don't have food because Carl
17. 0:54sensibly saying we wouldn't
18. 0:56carry you know like tins and stuff there
19. 1:00lots of games so we'll hunt that's what
20. 1:01you do in the jungle oh we have is rice
21. 1:03beans and salt that's all the rest comes
22. 1:05from the jungle but what we kill is not
23. 1:08so
24. 1:09pleasant it's gruesome and C waves it in
25. 1:13the end and screaming and you see the
26. 1:15Wilderness in his eyes isn't his element
27. 1:18He loves
28. 1:19it marus would wouldn't bring himself to
29. 1:22eat we killing to eat Marcus thinks can
30. 1:24we save that
31. 1:27monkey by now we're like four or five
32. 1:29days away away from
33. 1:30aaras towards that Indian village we are
34. 1:34in a better shape in a way because we
35. 1:35learned how to deal with this
36. 1:36environment how to negotiate the
37. 1:38undergrow or to use the creeks and
38. 1:41rivers and walk and we became all
39. 1:43tougher but Marcus he said it's
40. 1:46tremendous pain we didn't believe him
41. 1:48cuz it was part of it okay now he's
42. 1:50complaining he's always complaining he's
43. 1:52always finding a reason to complain I
44. 1:54was very upset cuz my dream you know to
45. 1:56make contact with the aians my that
46. 1:58dream was gone and you know was mainly
47. 2:01because of Marcus in the rainforest Carl
48. 2:04was the authority and rightly so but not
49. 2:07anymore cuz on the river Kevin saw
50. 2:09immediately that Carl is no authorities
51. 2:11was ridiculous cuz Carl didn't know how
52. 2:12to swim so now there was like fighting
53. 2:16on the ra or fighting because Carl said
54. 2:18you know we have to pull to the left and
55. 2:19Kevin said nonsense you have to go to
56. 2:21the other side crazy on a river like
57. 2:23that you know like no cooperation no
58. 2:25friendship it was hell he called us and
59. 2:28he said done for from here it's a canyon
60. 2:32and there's no way if you're going in
61. 2:34you're dying there's no way out of it
62. 2:37car said if you want to live let's walk
63. 2:40we wanted out you know this was a
64. 2:42misadventure it wasn't fun for me either
65. 2:45and Kevin was the only one that was not
66. 2:48happy at all you know it was a moment I
67. 2:51just didn't know what to do I mean in my
68. 2:54guts I wanted to go with the with Carl
69. 2:56and
70. 2:57Marcus but I already had this relation
71. 2:59ship with Kevin you know like Kevin was
72. 3:01my hero Kevin I you know I chose Kevin
73. 3:04you know like I in that split I chose
74. 3:07Kevin he was my man so I stuck with him
75. 3:10I said okay you know I'm coming with you
76. 3:14it was
77. 3:15heartwrenching it was like a betrayal we
78. 3:18betrayed him and it was terrible
79. 3:20feeling I really felt ashamed Kevin and
80. 3:24I went into full excitement into let's
81. 3:27the let's the adventure begin and you
82. 3:29chapter no more four
83. 3:31people Kevin became the authority and I
84. 3:34accepted his authority I I guess part of
85. 3:36it was an issue of age but other part
86. 3:38was that I didn't know Rivers it's
87. 3:42becoming much more intense you know like
88. 3:43the river is getting narrow the water
89. 3:46swifter we're just shooting straight
90. 3:48into white water both of us were lying
91. 3:51on the raft that was the only thing we
92. 3:54could do suddenly it was clear to me
93. 3:56that nothing that can prevent us from
94. 3:58collide with this huge rock that was
95. 4:00approaching I don't want him to jump I
96. 4:03he tells me why he's jumping and his
97. 4:05plan is completely suicidal but in that
98. 4:07stage I think not only is that it's
99. 4:09suicidal he he kills me and then at the
100. 4:12same time the raft moves and I hear the
101. 4:15terrible Screech the mass of water just
102. 4:18there's like huge pressure on my chest
103. 4:21and I can feel I can feel that you know
104. 4:23like the power of the river I'm shooting
105. 4:25at such a high speed and deep deep under
106. 4:28the waters like the pressure surmounts I
107. 4:31cannot breathe I feel this is it I'm
108. 4:33exploding I'm dying and I knew this is
109. 4:36my end after long time in the river I
110. 4:38was spat again into the surface and that
111. 4:42terrible Canyon is behind me how did I
112. 4:44pass it I just don't know I just have no
113. 4:46understanding of it but I was on the
114. 4:48other side I wanted to be back with Carl
115. 4:51now up until now there was a fire now no
116. 4:53fire and I'm all alone and every shadow
117. 4:56outside was menacing I knew I lost
118. 4:58everything and every body I was in
119. 5:01hysteria early morning of the day after
120. 5:04this tragedy This Disaster I he the
121. 5:07scratch this metallic
122. 5:09scratch behind the rock there's a small
123. 5:13pool in the middle there the backpack is
124. 5:19waiting when Kevin made this bag he said
125. 5:22give me everything important to you cuz
126. 5:24this is the life bag he tied two empty
127. 5:27things to have it Flo I put the backpack
128. 5:30on my back and now with a new spirit I
129. 5:33climbed up thinking that it's going to
130. 5:35be easy now Kevin and I get together and
131. 5:38it's going to be over we've got the
132. 5:41equipment it's going to be a good story
133. 5:44the only thing that kind of
134. 5:46uh kept me going was the notion that
135. 5:50Kevin is running after me and he will
136. 5:52follow me and things will be fine when
137. 5:55Kevin comes
138. 5:58[Music]
139. 5:59I just clearly heard some Branch
140. 6:01breaking something is moving I knew I'm
141. 6:03not imagining that something is moving
142. 6:05near me it was consuming that that fear
143. 6:09I just realized I knew it Kevin
144. 6:11something happened to Kevin something
145. 6:13happened to Kevin and is he probably
146. 6:18died I took the map out and I started
147. 6:20studying
148. 6:22it suddenly I
149. 6:25remember Carl told us about some Camp
150. 6:29the gold mining camp about 4 days away
151. 6:32up
152. 6:33River Co
153. 6:35player so now I had like an idea I have
154. 6:38to walk and looking at the map it was
155. 6:40very hard to work it out but I thought
156. 6:42within two three four days maximum I'm
157. 6:43making it to the camp and once I made it
158. 6:46to the camp I'll have a trail to follow
159. 6:49and I'll make it
160. 6:50out and here I am singing out loud my
161. 6:53chest open enjoying the scenery and
162. 6:57fully trusting I'm going to make it
163. 7:00I suddenly discover a tree and I saw
164. 7:03clearly it was actually cat with a
165. 7:06mash
166. 7:08Kevin and then it all makes sense to me
167. 7:10actually Kevin was doing the same thing
168. 7:13that was in you I would be trying to go
169. 7:16to
170. 7:17glia so I'm sure Kevin is there before
171. 7:20me I kept on walking along that trail
172. 7:24and it started being a bit strange
173. 7:26because the marks weren't as clear as
174. 7:28before
175. 7:31deep in the bush I had no sense of
176. 7:34direction and now I was stuck with this
177. 7:36little Trail and hoping that it will
178. 7:40lead me back to the river and to the
179. 7:43[Music]
180. 7:46camp and then after hours where I'm
181. 7:48already despaired cuz you know it took
182. 7:50me away from the river I see this
183. 7:54footprint it's not an old footprint I
184. 7:57see that footprint in the mud and I
185. 7:59realized this is a iing boot and there's
186. 8:01only one person in the world that could
187. 8:03have left that footprint it's Kevin I
188. 8:06just made it a rule I'm not going to
189. 8:08lose the river
190. 8:10again suddenly there was this opening
191. 8:13along the river and I saw the
192. 8:15hatut I was so
193. 8:19hurt the disease on my feet this fungus
194. 8:22reached my hands as well and my hands
195. 8:24were raw as
196. 8:26[Music]
197. 8:28well and I I felt that not only the pain
198. 8:31that was so excruciating but I actually
199. 8:34remembered how marus said that and I
200. 8:37remember that I actually didn't believe
201. 8:40him and I thought that he's a win and
202. 8:42for a second I was thinking that maybe
203. 8:45what has happened to me was directly
204. 8:48related to the way I behav to him to my
205. 8:51friend and now I know cuz I suffer
206. 8:56myself it took me seconds to understand
207. 8:59but by the the time I understood it was
208. 9:00too late it was a flood and the River
209. 9:05Rose by that time I was really in bad
210. 9:08situation it was the 15th day of my
211. 9:11solitude I couldn't start a fire there
212. 9:13was no sun to dry and no food and the
213. 9:16rain and
214. 9:18wet but things were clear I just had to
215. 9:22stand on my feet and keep on
216. 9:24walking cuz I knew now there one one
217. 9:27thing find the river
218. 9:29I hear that noise and I listen to that
219. 9:32noise cuz it's so foreign and I start
220. 9:35realizing it's an
221. 9:40airplane I'm saved and I know everything
222. 9:42now I know also that Kevin is in the
223. 9:44plane I know it's a it's a plane after
224. 9:47me I know it's Kevin there and I'm just
225. 9:49jumping on my feet and I'm running and
226. 9:51I'm screaming you know as soon as I
227. 9:54realized this airplane was just
228. 9:56oblivious to
229. 9:57me I just
230. 10:02collapsed for the first time I Was
231. 10:05Defeated you know I felt defeated I knew
232. 10:07that so much hope and they didn't see me
233. 10:10and there's no way they could see
234. 10:14me and then I'm telling her to come
235. 10:16closer to me and there's nobody I I know
236. 10:20there's nobody here so I started
237. 10:23realizing that I don't know what's going
238. 10:25on anymore I'm maybe I'm I'm I'm I'm
239. 10:28becoming insane
240. 10:30and there were like hundreds of them and
241. 10:32then thousands of them and I couldn't
242. 10:33escape there were no way I could Escape
243. 10:35but the the worst horror was the ray of
244. 10:38light hitting a red carpet you know like
245. 10:42everything around me 5 6 M around me
246. 10:45everywhere it was all red and
247. 10:49moving my body was like a colander there
248. 10:52was no place in my body that wasn't
249. 10:55bleeding
250. 10:57and I just had to escaped now and I
251. 11:02stood on my feet and I kept on walking
252. 11:05on my knees on my on my elbows I'm
253. 11:10[Music]
254. 11:18crawling suddenly I started seeing a few
255. 11:20things that I recognized and it was
256. 11:23actually Kura I went all the way back to
257. 11:26that deserted mining camp but the mining
258. 11:30camp wasn't there anymore the flood took
259. 11:34[Music]
260. 11:43[Music]
261. 11:51everything my feet weren't feet anymore
262. 11:54there like two lumps two chunks of blood
263. 11:57and P all I want is to rest let me
264. 12:00[Music]
265. 12:04die I clearly heard buzz like a like a
266. 12:08bee or a wasp and it's like coming
267. 12:10closer and I can start hearing it
268. 12:12circulating my my head so I'm already in
269. 12:16like the zone of like delirium I'm just
270. 12:18trying to get rid of that wasp cuz and
271. 12:22there's so strong that noise in a
272. 12:24certain point I think it maybe it's
273. 12:26trapped inside the mosquito Nets and I
274. 12:28raise my head I just try to get rid of
275. 12:31that wasp and the buzz is in my ears and
276. 12:33as I raise my head and there's
277. 12:35no I don't see at the was but when I
278. 12:38turn my head right there on the beach I
279. 12:41see Shades and people
280. 12:59[Music]
281. 13:15stay where you
282. 13:18are stay where you
283. 13:21are I mean it's like a that stage I'm
284. 13:23not I I don't know what's going on just
285. 13:25you know like Kevin like a fleshed is is
286. 13:29already there and I'm collapsing in his
287. 13:31arms and we just hold each other and
288. 13:33hold each other it's now just emotion we
289. 13:36cry and cry and
290. 13:38[Music]
291. 13:40cry my life was
292. 13:43spared I mean I know Kevin saved my life
293. 13:47but it was a miracle for sure it was a
294. 13:52miracle it was a shock to us to discover
295. 13:55that there was no trace of Marcus or
296. 13:58Carl kin went back into the rainforest
297. 14:01immediately to search for them and he
298. 14:03couldn't find anything any sign any
299. 14:06track it just evaporated it was a life
300. 14:09and death issue
301. 14:12and and we we decided for him that he
302. 14:15should go out yeah we did think both
303. 14:18Kevin and I we were thinking that what
304. 14:21we are doing is more dangerous if this
305. 14:24is an excuse we we were thinking that
306. 14:28still we made that decision for him and
307. 14:31he never came back