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  1. 0:00Now, my dear friend, I am going to ask
  2. 0:02you a question. Maybe you are 18 years
  3. 0:04old today, but if you were 18 today and
  4. 0:07starting your tech career from scratch,
  5. 0:09you are just starting out. Which career
  6. 0:12path would you choose for yourself?
  7. 0:14When you want to be involved in
  8. 0:16technology and answer this question
  9. 0:18honestly, I wondered about something. I
  10. 0:21asked myself, for example, would I be a
  11. 0:24software developer, a cybersecurity
  12. 0:26expert, a cloud specialist, or
  13. 0:28something else? But I noticed something
  14. 0:31else here. Rather than just software,
  15. 0:34cybersecurity, or other topics, I
  16. 0:36discovered a more interesting cycle in
  17. 0:39the tech world. Though others have
  18. 0:41certainly mentioned this before me, I
  19. 0:43would say it became clearer to me. That
  20. 0:46is a more accurate way to put it. And
  21. 0:49at the end of this, I realized that
  22. 0:51another career path, a profession,
  23. 0:53perhaps one that will leave its mark on
  24. 0:56the coming years, could emerge. I have
  25. 1:00mapped out a roadmap in my head for how
  26. 1:01you can do this. If you are interested,
  27. 1:04I wanted to show you what you should
  28. 1:06look for and how this cycle repeats
  29. 1:08itself. I will explain what this cycle
  30. 1:11is, what this profession is, and how
  31. 1:13you can reach this profession shortly.
  32. 1:15If you are ready, let's begin, my dear.
  33. 1:18Dear friends, by the way, before we
  34. 1:19continue with the video, I want to talk
  35. 1:21to you about a small solution. As you
  36. 1:23know, the AI field is moving incredibly
  37. 1:24fast. ChatGPT is releasing a new model.
  38. 1:26The next week it's Claude, then Gemini,
  39. 1:28then something else. After a point, it
  40. 1:29becomes difficult to decide which task
  41. 1:30to do with which one. It becomes hard
  42. 1:32to choose. It becomes hard to make a
  43. 1:33decision. That is why I have been using
  44. 1:35TLM Abacus lately. It is very useful
  45. 1:37for me. I want to talk about it.
  46. 1:39Because you don't have to deal with
  47. 1:40opening single applications. GPT-4o,
  48. 1:41Claude, Gemini, Groq, DeepSeek R1, they
  49. 1:43are all in the same place. When a new
  50. 1:45model comes out, you don't wait too
  51. 1:46long. It is added quickly. I do
  52. 1:47research in one place. I create a draft
  53. 1:48in another place. Sometimes I prepare a
  54. 1:50presentation. I generate images. I
  55. 1:51create videos. I even give it an idea I
  56. 1:53have and tell it to turn this into a
  57. 1:54working website. It even does that. The
  58. 1:56AI agents within it can also complete
  59. 1:58time-consuming tasks on their own. They
  60. 2:00also have a feature I really like.
  61. 2:01RouteLLM. I don't have to struggle with
  62. 2:03which model to choose. It chooses the
  63. 2:04most appropriate model itself based on
  64. 2:05my request. If I want to, of course, I
  65. 2:07can manually switch to the model I want
  66. 2:08. The most logical part is the price.
  67. 2:10Normally, we need to get separate
  68. 2:11subscriptions for most of these models.
  69. 2:12Here, they are all on a single platform
  70. 2:14and it is only 10 dollars a month. If
  71. 2:15you, like me, constantly switch between
  72. 2:17different tools during the day, I
  73. 2:19definitely recommend you try TLM Abacus
  74. 2:21. Take a look, I hope you like it. Take
  75. 2:23care of yourselves. I am returning to
  76. 2:24the video. Let's go. Now, when we look
  77. 2:27at the last 30 years, I want to take
  78. 2:30you back to 1996, 1995. Just think
  79. 2:33about it, friends. The internet
  80. 2:34revolution took place. The internet
  81. 2:36came to Turkey in '93 if I remember
  82. 2:37correctly. It arrived in '92 or '93,
  83. 2:39something like that. After that,
  84. 2:40everyone started creating pages on the
  85. 2:42internet by slowly getting
  86. 2:43www.something. ...addressing.tr domains
  87. 2:49. They moved their own websites to the
  88. 2:52internet and did various things. And
  89. 2:54then, attacks against these websites
  90. 2:57started to occur. The disruption of
  91. 3:01this interconnected internet happened,
  92. 3:03and once a problem arose, it naturally
  93. 3:06brought forth a concept, a solution.
  94. 3:09These developments. What happened? The
  95. 3:12concept of network security emerged.
  96. 3:13Network security experts came along,
  97. 3:15firewalls were introduced, DNS
  98. 3:16protections arrived, and so on. This
  99. 3:17and that happened. Those things arrived
  100. 3:19. Then, between 2006 and 2008, the
  101. 3:23concept of Web 2.0 emerged. After that,
  102. 3:27the writing of many web applications,
  103. 3:30the deep integration of mobile phones
  104. 3:32into our lives, and the emergence of
  105. 3:35mobile app concepts created the
  106. 3:37application security problem, and the
  107. 3:39profession of application security
  108. 3:41expert was born. Then cloud emerged in
  109. 3:45the 2010s. Actually, it emerged after
  110. 3:472006, but its popularization and
  111. 3:49widespread use happened after 2010. The
  112. 3:51cloud concept, cloud security, this
  113. 3:54cloud idea, everyone moving to the
  114. 3:56cloud, shifting to cloud solutions on
  115. 3:58Azure, AWS, and GCP. Then, remember the
  116. 4:01secrets, keys, various things, and
  117. 4:03forgotten S3 buckets. Suddenly, the
  118. 4:06concept of cloud security emerged. And
  119. 4:08then, what did you see happened?
  120. 4:11Kubernetes emerged, DevOps emerged, and
  121. 4:14so on. Our way of doing business began
  122. 4:16to change. Then, what did we see, my
  123. 4:18friend? We started to see the DevOps
  124. 4:21concept, and these Kubernetes and
  125. 4:22container security concepts in the
  126. 4:24environment. What is the common
  127. 4:26denominator here, my friend? When you
  128. 4:27look at it, what do you see in this
  129. 4:29picture? What do you see within these
  130. 4:3130 years from back in the 95s until
  131. 4:33today? A technology emerges. The
  132. 4:35technology is accepted. It comes into
  133. 4:37general widespread use. Then, attacks
  134. 4:38related to this emerge. For instance,
  135. 4:40network security, good friends appeared
  136. 4:42. There were DNS poisonings, domain
  137. 4:44hijackings, etc., at the end of the 90s
  138. 4:46, that's how systems were hacked. And
  139. 4:48then, in web applications, XSS appeared
  140. 4:50, SQL injections appeared, and things
  141. 4:53like that came out. Then in the cloud,
  142. 4:55IAM appeared, zero trust appeared, and
  143. 4:57those kinds of things arrived. Then
  144. 4:58with DevSecOps, pipeline security
  145. 5:00arrived, deployment security came along
  146. 5:02, and supply chain attacks happened,
  147. 5:04etc. Things like this occurred. What
  148. 5:05happened, my friend? Technology grew.
  149. 5:07Technology became widespread. Attacks
  150. 5:09related to the technology emerged, and
  151. 5:10the technology gave birth to a
  152. 5:12profession regarding its security. It
  153. 5:14birthed a profession. Right? This
  154. 5:17repeated itself in a loop. When you
  155. 5:20look at it like the internet of 30
  156. 5:22years ago today, what is the growing
  157. 5:24technology, my friend? Artificial
  158. 5:26intelligence, AI, right? Then this
  159. 5:29concept of AI security will emerge. If
  160. 5:33we say this will be the profession of
  161. 5:35the future, would we be very wrong? I
  162. 5:37think the picture we see when we look
  163. 5:39at this process tells us exactly that.
  164. 5:41But there is an important thing I want
  165. 5:43to explain here. The misconception
  166. 5:45everyone falls into is this. If you set
  167. 5:47out saying, "I will be an AI security
  168. 5:50expert," crash and burn immediately.
  169. 5:52You would fail right away. So, my
  170. 5:54friend, listen very carefully to what I
  171. 5:55am about to say. Because from now on,
  172. 5:57if you choose this career and want to
  173. 6:00progress along this path, I will give
  174. 6:02you the keys to some very important
  175. 6:04things. First and most importantly,
  176. 6:07buddy, the concept of AI security is
  177. 6:09not prompt injection or indirect prompt
  178. 6:11injection. Okay? These are just the tip
  179. 6:14of the iceberg in AI. There is a much
  180. 6:15larger situation at hand. You shouldn't
  181. 6:18evaluate the concept of AI security so
  182. 6:19simplistically. Today, agents have
  183. 6:21emerged alongside AI. There are these
  184. 6:24agents performing tasks on your
  185. 6:25computer on their own, and there is MCP
  186. 6:27. There are the learning patterns of
  187. 6:29the LLMs running in the background.
  188. 6:30There is the poisoning of those
  189. 6:32learning patterns. There is them
  190. 6:33acquiring and sharing misinformation.
  191. 6:35There is the creation of "slop."
  192. 6:37There’s endless stuff. There is them
  193. 6:38acting according to their own logic.
  194. 6:39Companies are now internalizing AI.
  195. 6:42They are embedding AI into their
  196. 6:44companies. Well, brother, if the AI
  197. 6:46within this company sends financial
  198. 6:47reports to the wrong person, for
  199. 6:48instance, it will start running the
  200. 6:50bank. If you make companies send money
  201. 6:53from bank accounts to the wrong person,
  202. 6:54or if you cause them to do other things
  203. 6:56from the outside and be affected by
  204. 6:58them, look, I’m talking about a much
  205. 7:00bigger picture, a much greater
  206. 7:02capability. Do you get what I mean? I
  207. 7:04mean, when you look at it in depth,
  208. 7:05many points and components need to come
  209. 7:07together and act in relation to each
  210. 7:09other. What does this require, brother?
  211. 7:11Learning many different and varied
  212. 7:14disciplines. So, rather than AI
  213. 7:18Security being a simple heading or a
  214. 7:20simple discipline on its own, can we
  215. 7:22say it’s a compilation of everything
  216. 7:24we’ve learned in the last 30 years—
  217. 7:27network security, cloud security, web
  218. 7:29application security, and so on—as a
  219. 7:31discipline where we learn a known and
  220. 7:34applicable version of all of them? I
  221. 7:38think we can. I think if a concept like
  222. 7:41AI Security, AI security engineering,
  223. 7:43is emerging today and will influence
  224. 7:46the next 10 years—which I find very
  225. 7:48likely—Then it needs to be evaluated
  226. 7:50on a very wide scale. But you might say
  227. 7:54, "Brother, do I really have to learn
  228. 7:56all of this, 30 years of experience,
  229. 7:57these highly capable tools, and whatnot
  230. 7:59?" Isn't that a bit difficult? "I'll
  231. 8:02just take a course, I'll read.""Let me
  232. 8:05just get a certificate or something.""
  233. 8:07Can I just become an AI security expert
  234. 8:09like that, brother?" I don't think so.
  235. 8:12Because, for example, if I were to
  236. 8:14become an AI security expert today, I
  237. 8:16wouldn't go chasing after learning it
  238. 8:18directly, brother. Whoa, here comes the
  239. 8:21roadmap. Look, I’m preparing you,
  240. 8:23buddy, don't forget this favor. It's
  241. 8:26not a standalone field; as I said,
  242. 8:28it’s a 30-year multidisciplinary
  243. 8:29structure. If I were starting from
  244. 8:31scratch, I definitely wouldn't go
  245. 8:32chasing certifications. Once we’ve
  246. 8:34taken that in and put it in our pocket,
  247. 8:36I would go after understanding the
  248. 8:37system, brother. Instead of hoarding
  249. 8:39training videos, I would learn how an
  250. 8:41LLM actually works. What is a
  251. 8:42Transformer? What is a context window?
  252. 8:44What is embedding? What is the purpose
  253. 8:46of function calling? Why did RAG emerge
  254. 8:48? Why is MCP being talked about so much
  255. 8:50? Look, I would ask myself these
  256. 8:51questions. Because that’s where the
  257. 8:53action happens at this layer. Okay? I
  258. 8:54would understand these first. Because
  259. 8:56that’s where the attacks will be.
  260. 8:57Because this is the entrance gate. But
  261. 8:58I need to know what's going on behind
  262. 8:59the scenes. I need to know the cloud,
  263. 9:01man. I need to know AWS, Azure, Google
  264. 9:03Cloud. I mean, something running
  265. 9:05locally on my notebook is no use to me.
  266. 9:07Then threat modeling. Man, I've been
  267. 9:09saying it for years; if you can't
  268. 9:11predict or imagine how a system will be
  269. 9:12attacked, you can't protect that system
  270. 9:14. That's why threat modeling is
  271. 9:16definitely one of the most important
  272. 9:17things. And finally, there's practice.
  273. 9:19I mean, you can't do this job without
  274. 9:21breaking things. Just watching training
  275. 9:23videos and stuff won't work, man. You
  276. 9:25have to break things. You have to
  277. 9:26really smash it up. So, let's say, what
  278. 9:28would I do if I were in your shoes? How
  279. 9:31would I do this job, man? I'd install
  280. 9:32Docker on my laptop. I'd put Ollama on
  281. 9:34top of it. I'd put WebUI on top of that
  282. 9:36. I'd make a simple RAG. All right?
  283. 9:38Then I'd try to break it. I'd try
  284. 9:40prompt injection. And, well, let's say
  285. 9:42I'd try prompt fuzzing. I'd look at it
  286. 9:44with Garak. Look, take notes on these.
  287. 9:46Pause the video. Look, search for all
  288. 9:47of these on the internet. Yeah, we're
  289. 9:49not just talking nonsense here. Then
  290. 9:50there's that thing, like, there used to
  291. 9:52be Damn Vulnerable Web Application.
  292. 9:54There's Damn Vulnerable LLMs now, for
  293. 9:56example. I'd install that; if I
  294. 9:58couldn't do anything else, I'd try to
  295. 10:00break that. Oh, there's also that.
  296. 10:01PortSwigger has AI labs. LLM labs and
  297. 10:04AI labs. Man, I'd dive right into those
  298. 10:06, for instance. And I would put all
  299. 10:07these studies of mine on GitHub. I
  300. 10:09would fill up the GitHub. Because when
  301. 10:11I go to a job interview, you know,
  302. 10:12GitHub is very important. They even try
  303. 10:13to lynch me saying, "Man, look at
  304. 10:15Erwin's GitHub, there's nothing written
  305. 10:17there," trying to hit me from there, my
  306. 10:18poor brothers. That's not a problem. I
  307. 10:20don't have a need for it, my dear. You
  308. 10:23have the need. When I'm hiring someone,
  309. 10:25I look at their GitHub. I look at their
  310. 10:27certificates too, but I definitely look
  311. 10:29at their GitHub. Why don't I do it? I
  312. 10:31don't know, no one asked me, but they
  313. 10:33might ask you. There's a possibility
  314. 10:35they'll ask. Why leave an open door?
  315. 10:37Right? That's why I'm saying it.
  316. 10:38Otherwise, this isn't something I'm
  317. 10:40telling you to take as an example.
  318. 10:41Could I explain it? Why don't I do it?
  319. 10:42No one has asked me until today, man.
  320. 10:44If they ask, I'll put it up too. If
  321. 10:46they don't ask, let it stay like this
  322. 10:47for me. Yeah, you can say that too, huh
  323. 10:49. Don't put this. No one asked me.
  324. 10:50Who's going to look at it? There are
  325. 10:51already tons of weird job postings in
  326. 10:52Turkey. None of them are real job
  327. 10:54postings. We're already applying to
  328. 10:55jobs through postings. No one even
  329. 10:56cares about us. You're right about that
  330. 10:57too. I can't say anything, but, I mean,
  331. 10:59what would I do? We're 18 years old,
  332. 11:00right? That's our topic, right? That's
  333. 11:01the scenario, right? That's why I'm
  334. 11:03explaining it accordingly. Now take
  335. 11:04what you will from it. I don't get
  336. 11:05involved in the rest, Can. That's why I
  337. 11:07think a profile is still important. Or
  338. 11:09a blog post, or, let's say, build a
  339. 11:11community. I mean, create a simple
  340. 11:13community. Go to your university or
  341. 11:14somewhere else and talk about the
  342. 11:16project you did. Give a 10-minute
  343. 11:17Lightning Talk. I mean, record a video
  344. 11:19of it and put it on the internet. Like,
  345. 11:21this guy is active, he’s done some
  346. 11:23things, etc. Instead of just watching
  347. 11:24courses, for instance, what was that
  348. 11:26guy's name? Andrej Karpathy, man, take
  349. 11:29a look at what this guy writes. Look at
  350. 11:31his articles, look at what he explains.
  351. 11:33The man is the king of this field.
  352. 11:34Master Karpathy explains very logical
  353. 11:36things. Alright? Fantastic. Put that in
  354. 11:39your pocket for starters. Check out
  355. 11:41Hugging Face. Hugging Face, for example
  356. 11:43, is an important place. You must look
  357. 11:45at those LLMs. It’s not just OWASP
  358. 11:47LLM anymore. It’s not just the
  359. 11:48standard one anymore. When we talk
  360. 11:49about security, again, there's the
  361. 11:51OWASP Prompt and Garak. Let me mention
  362. 11:54those again. Microsoft has a thing
  363. 11:57called PyRIT. It’s spelled P-Y-R-I-T.
  364. 12:00Then Rize, Istanbul, Turkey. Just look
  365. 12:03it up like that, uh. PyRIT is a great
  366. 12:07project related to AI security testing
  367. 12:10and red teaming. Take a look at it.
  368. 12:12It’s a nice framework. I like it, for
  369. 12:14instance. Take a look at that. Besides
  370. 12:15that, PortSwigger's AI labs, as I
  371. 12:17mentioned before, are definitely a
  372. 12:19place you should check out. You can
  373. 12:21study those. TryHackMe and Hack The Box
  374. 12:24have labs for this. Try them out, get
  375. 12:26some experience. Honestly, AI Security
  376. 12:29really seems like an important
  377. 12:30profession for the future, my friend.
  378. 12:33I’m not just pulling this out of thin
  379. 12:34air. I mean, looking at the last 30
  380. 12:36years, everything I’ve seen is that
  381. 12:38technology develops, then spreads.
  382. 12:40After it spreads, a problem statement
  383. 12:42emerges, and then the relevant security
  384. 12:44discipline appears to solve it. And
  385. 12:47these people have always earned good
  386. 12:50money throughout their lives. So, there
  387. 12:53will be money in this. So, it feels
  388. 12:56like this field will have a future. No
  389. 12:58matter what, there was no "internet
  390. 13:00security" career in '95. There was no "
  391. 13:02Cloud Security" in 2005. There was no "
  392. 13:04Kubernetes Security" in 2015. And today
  393. 13:05, AI Security is at that same point.
  394. 13:08The important thing is, maybe 10 years
  395. 13:10from now, we will still call AI
  396. 13:12Security the most current, the best
  397. 13:15profession, and when we say that, we
  398. 13:17will need people to secure it as the
  399. 13:19technology evolves. At this point,
  400. 13:23asking yourself not "how can I learn AI
  401. 13:25security," but "how early am I in this,
  402. 13:28where do I stand?" is perhaps the best
  403. 13:31move you can make. I mean, I want to
  404. 13:32draw your attention to this. Because
  405. 13:34sometimes in life, being in the right
  406. 13:36place at the right time, and perhaps
  407. 13:38having watched this video, could be a
  408. 13:40very important turning point. Now, I
  409. 13:42have a message for you in the future,
  410. 13:44my friend. After watching this, if you
  411. 13:46change your career or decide to pivot
  412. 13:48here and end up becoming successful,
  413. 13:50come back to this video and leave me a
  414. 13:53message from the future. Let’s see
  415. 13:55what happened. Will it work out? I
  416. 13:56might be completely wrong, but it feels
  417. 13:58like this field is going to grow like
  418. 14:00this. What do you think? I’m waiting
  419. 14:02in the comments. Let’s go then. I
  420. 14:03love you all very much. May God protect
  421. 14:05you. Can is out. See you. My YouTube
  422. 14:07family. Subscribe, guys!

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