yeah, no wonder everybody hates Chappell Roan — Transcript

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1. 0:00I think people are scared of me. Really?
2. 0:03No, SHUT THE [ __ ] UP.
3. 0:05YOU SAY, "DON'T touch me. Don't touch
4. 0:07me. Don't look at me. Don't Don't talk
5. 0:08to me. I don't know who you [music]
6. 0:09are."
7. 0:10Chappell Roan lives the life that so
8. 0:12many young girls are desperate for.
9. 0:14But for some reason,
10. 0:15>> [music]
11. 0:16>> she seems to absolutely hate it.
12. 0:17>> I don't give a [ __ ] if you think it's
13. 0:18selfish of me to say no for a photo or
14. 0:22for your time or to for a hug.
15. 0:25That's not normal. That's weird.
16. 0:27>> I wanted to understand how someone who
17. 0:28became a well-known pop star on purpose
18. 0:31could think like this.
19. 0:33And to do that, we got to go back to
20. 0:35before anybody knew her at all.
21. 0:37>> Please give it up for Kaylee Rose.
22. 0:39>> [applause]
23. 0:41[music]
24. 0:46[music and singing]
25. 0:49>> I never thought in a million years
26. 0:53that I would ever have this job.
27. 0:57In my head, it just didn't seem
28. 0:59like it it was even a possibility
29. 1:02because I live in Willard, Missouri.
30. 1:05Chappell's story sounds like something
31. 1:07straight out of a movie. Small-town girl
32. 1:09starts uploading cover songs to YouTube,
33. 1:10[music]
34. 1:11signs a record deal with Atlantic
35. 1:12Records, and runs off and lives her life
36. 1:15as a superstar.
37. 1:17But in real life,
38. 1:18things are never really that simple.
39. 1:20What what ended their relationship if
40. 1:22you're able to say? My relationship
41. 1:24ended with my label like a lot of
42. 1:26artists
43. 1:27uh ended their relationships in 2020.
44. 1:30Growing concern about a new and rare
45. 1:32pneumonia-like virus
46. 1:33>> Breaking news, the first [music] death
47. 1:35from coronavirus here in the United
48. 1:37States. And now with social distancing
49. 1:39being a mandate, well, a lot of
50. 1:40musicians are finding it increasingly
51. 1:42difficult to record music and make a
52. 1:44[music] living. You just get dropped if
53. 1:46you're not making money in 2020. Like
54. 1:48music industry crashed.
55. 1:49>> At the height of the pandemic, Atlantic
56. 1:51Records drops [music] her. She had no
57. 1:52job experience, no backup plan, and no
58. 1:55health insurance.
59. 1:57But even the pandemic wasn't enough to
60. 1:58stop Chappell. What was that experience
61. 2:00like and how did you pick yourself back
62. 2:02up afterwards? Um I think it was the
63. 2:04best thing that could have happened to
64. 2:05my career because it lit a fire [music]
65. 2:07under my ass that I was just like, "I
66. 2:10have to try to make this work."
67. 2:12Singer-songwriter [music] Chappell Roan,
68. 2:15who is being called pop's next big
69. 2:17thing, and a lot of it is because of the
70. 2:19success of her first studio album, The
71. 2:20Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess,
72. 2:22[music] went to number one on the US
73. 2:24iTunes charts. Come on now.
74. 2:26>> [music]
75. 2:27[cheering]
76. 2:28>> The Grammy Award for Best New Artist
77. 2:31goes to
78. 2:34Woo, I'm nervous. CHAPPELL ROAN!
79. 2:37>> [screaming]
80. 2:45>> AND JUST LIKE THAT, LESS THAN 5 years,
81. 2:47she goes from being dropped from her
82. 2:49label with no future to winning a
83. 2:51Grammy.
84. 2:52This is her moment.
85. 2:54>> myself if I ever won a Grammy and I got
86. 2:56to stand up here,
87. 2:58I would demand that labels and the
88. 3:00industry profiting millions of dollars
89. 3:03off of artists would offer a livable
90. 3:05wage and health care, especially to
91. 3:08developing artists.
92. 3:09>> [cheering]
93. 3:10>> Labels, we got you. But do you got us?
94. 3:15>> [cheering]
95. 3:16>> In the music industry, the record label
96. 3:17is often seen as the villain.
97. 3:20But this time, something was different.
98. 3:22You see, something was starting to
99. 3:24change within Chappell.
100. 3:27I think that my
101. 3:29career has just kind of gone um really
102. 3:31fast, and it's really hard to keep up.
103. 3:33And so, I'm just I'm just being honest
104. 3:35that it's
105. 3:37I'm just having a hard time today.
106. 3:39I don't care that it's normal. I don't
107. 3:41care that this crazy type of behavior
108. 3:45comes along [music] with
109. 3:47the job, the career field I've chosen.
110. 3:50It doesn't mean I want it. It doesn't
111. 3:51mean that I like it.
112. 3:53I don't want whatever the [ __ ] you think
113. 3:56you're supposed to be entitled to
114. 3:58whenever you see a celebrity. I don't
115. 3:59give a [ __ ] if you think it's selfish of
116. 4:00me to say no for a photo or for your
117. 4:04time or to for a hug.
118. 4:07That's not normal. That's weird. It's
119. 4:09weird how people think that you know a
120. 4:12person just cuz you see them online or
121. 4:13you listen to the art [music] they make.
122. 4:15That's [ __ ] weird. Now, people deal
123. 4:17with fame in different ways. Some hide
124. 4:19away, and then some embrace it.
125. 4:22>> [music]
126. 4:22>> And then there's others who fight back.
127. 4:24They speak their mind and they go
128. 4:25against the grain.
129. 4:27>> [music]
130. 4:27>> But when you do that and it goes too
131. 4:29far,
132. 4:30you become the monster.
133. 4:37To like tell the photographer to shut
134. 4:38the [ __ ] up? I think that completely
135. 4:40like shattered what everyone thought was
136. 4:43supposed to be like. That is not what a
137. 4:45pop star is supposed to do. Initially,
138. 4:47people praised Chappell for speaking her
139. 4:49mind.
140. 4:50But she kept going, and she kept getting
141. 4:52into altercations with photographers.
142. 4:53[music]
143. 4:54And it started to get personal.
144. 4:58Oh, here we go.
145. 4:59You I deserve an apology.
146. 5:02Wait, no?
147. 5:05Now, I hate to break it to her, but
148. 5:07>> [music]
149. 5:07>> the paparazzi don't have to apologize to
150. 5:09you. Plus, you're a public figure. Why
151. 5:12even waste your energy on trying to
152. 5:14force an apology out of a photographer
153. 5:16who did something months ago? But
154. 5:18nonetheless, she kept going. So, I'm
155. 5:20just trying to go to dinner, and I've
156. 5:22[music] asked these people several times
157. 5:23to get away from me.
158. 5:24>> Please step to the side. Step to the
159. 5:25side.
160. 5:26>> person I've asked [music] several times
161. 5:27to to go away, and they will not.
162. 5:29They're hiding their face because
163. 5:30they're ashamed.
164. 5:31>> [music]
165. 5:31>> Then go away. So, I want all of you, I'm
166. 5:34asking you kindly to please leave me
167. 5:36alone.
168. 5:38Yes. Can you give me something nice? Let
169. 5:41her go. She started getting more and
170. 5:42more irritated with every public
171. 5:44interaction.
172. 5:45And people started to notice.
173. 5:48Even Boy [music] George responded to her
174. 5:49on X by saying,
175. 5:51"I've been doing this fame thing for a
176. 5:52while, and you learn slowly
177. 5:55>> [music]
178. 5:55>> and painfully that you don't get a free
179. 5:56pass once you turn yourself into a bird
180. 5:58of paradise."
181. 6:00"The trick is to own your fame."
182. 6:02He goes on to say, "The world is at your
183. 6:04feet. Stop kicking it." But Chappell
184. 6:07seems to be proud of her new reputation.
185. 6:09I think people are scared of me. Really?
186. 6:12I think I made a big enough deal about
187. 6:14not talking to me that people do not
188. 6:15talk to me. Well, see, that's okay. As
189. 6:18adults, we understand that [music] even
190. 6:19famous people need their privacy. Plus,
191. 6:22a big part of Chappell's fan base is
192. 6:24kids. [music]
193. 6:25So, as long as she loves the kids, I
194. 6:27think everybody be cool. All of my
195. 6:29friends who have kids are in hell.
196. 6:31I don't know anyone [music] I actually
197. 6:32don't know anyone who's like happy and
198. 6:34has children.
199. 6:38Damn it, Chappell. I don't I literally
200. 6:39have not met anyone who's [music] happy,
201. 6:42anyone who has like light in their eyes,
202. 6:43anyone who has who's slept.
203. 6:45>> Now, some people agree with her and were
204. 6:47happy that she shined a light on the
205. 6:49difficulties of raising kids.
206. 6:50>> [music]
207. 6:51>> And then some other people called her
208. 6:52out for dissing motherhood. But either
209. 6:54way, it set a precedent. Chappell didn't
210. 6:56like talking to people. She didn't like
211. 6:58children. And even if those two things
212. 7:00aren't true, the public perception laid
213. 7:03the groundwork for what came next.
214. 7:06>> [music]
215. 7:07>> March 21st, 2026.
216. 7:09São Paulo, Brazil. Lollapalooza weekend.
217. 7:13Jorginho Frello was in town, and if you
218. 7:15follow soccer, you probably know his
219. 7:17name.
220. 7:18And if not, you've definitely heard of
221. 7:19actor Jude Law. Now, Jorginho and Jude
222. 7:22have something in common, or rather,
223. 7:25someone. Catherine Harding is the wife
224. 7:28of Jorginho, but she has an 11-year-old
225. 7:30daughter with Jude Law named Ada. And
226. 7:32Ada just so happens to be a huge
227. 7:34Chappell Roan fan.
228. 7:36Or at least she was.
229. 7:38Jorginho posted a story on Instagram
230. 7:39where he laid out exactly what happened
231. 7:41to his wife, Catherine, and her
232. 7:43daughter, Ada. So, the family, they were
233. 7:45in São Paulo for Lollapalooza, and by
234. 7:48coincidence, they were staying at the
235. 7:50same hotel as Chappell.
236. 7:52So, during breakfast, Ada noticed a girl
237. 7:54with red hair, and she thought it might
238. 7:57be Chappell, but she wasn't sure. So,
239. 7:59she got up to get a closer look. Now,
240. 8:01keep in mind, she didn't run up and ask
241. 8:03for a photo, she didn't scream.
242. 8:05>> [music]
243. 8:05>> All she did was walk past, she looked at
244. 8:07her, and smiled.
245. 8:09But remember what Chappell said. Don't
246. 8:11touch me. Don't look at me. Don't Don't
247. 8:13talk to me. I don't know who you are.
248. 8:15This is not good.
249. 8:16People already think Chappell doesn't
250. 8:18like children, or being talked to.
251. 8:21She's got to make [music] a statement.
252. 8:23It's got to feel genuine. I'm just going
253. 8:25to tell my half of the story
254. 8:28>> [music]
255. 8:28>> of what happened today with
256. 8:31a mother and child
257. 8:32>> [music]
258. 8:33>> who
259. 8:35were involved with a security guard who
260. 8:37is not my personal security.
261. 8:39>> [music]
262. 8:40>> I didn't even see I didn't even see a
263. 8:43woman and a child. Like I did not No one
264. 8:46came up to me. No one bothered me. Like
265. 8:49[music] I was just sitting at breakfast
266. 8:51in my hotel.
267. 8:53I did not ask the security guard to
268. 8:57go up and talk to this mother and child.
269. 8:59I do [music] not hate people who are
270. 9:01fans of my music. I do not hate
271. 9:04children. Like that is crazy. I'm sorry
272. 9:07to the mother and child that that
273. 9:08>> [music]
274. 9:08>> someone was assuming something that you
275. 9:10would do something, and that if you felt
276. 9:12uncomfortable,
277. 9:14that makes me [music] really sad. You
278. 9:15did not deserve that.
279. 9:17>> Now, on the surface, she says all the
280. 9:18right things, but people weren't really
281. 9:21convinced. [music]
282. 9:22Something about laying in bed and making
283. 9:24faces while you're apologizing didn't
284. 9:27[music] sit quite right. So, Catherine
285. 9:29Harding posted her own video responding
286. 9:31to this, [music] and talked about how
287. 9:33even if the security guard wasn't her
288. 9:35personal security, he was with her, and
289. 9:38[music] he was really aggressive with
290. 9:39her and her daughter. I think that you
291. 9:41have a responsibility when you are
292. 9:44a celebrity to
293. 9:46to make sure, I guess, that the people
294. 9:48that work for you and that act on your
295. 9:49behalf are acting on your behalf. So,
296. 9:52she didn't have her phone. She didn't
297. 9:53try to take a picture. She didn't
298. 9:55approach her.
299. 9:57She literally didn't do anything. She
300. 9:59just looked at her. Then came the
301. 10:00security guard who, as I said, as my
302. 10:02husband said, sorry, was
303. 10:05very had a very aggressive tone. So, for
304. 10:08him to come over to a table with just
305. 10:12uh a woman and her daughter eating
306. 10:14breakfast to kind of like berate and
307. 10:17scold us and say that he was going to
308. 10:19complain and tell me that I should be
309. 10:21teaching my daughter to be better and
310. 10:23that she's badly educated and we should
311. 10:26respect people's privacy and we should
312. 10:28not harass people and I must say, well,
313. 10:30if this is the case that uh she doesn't
314. 10:32even want people to look at her, she is
315. 10:34very welcome to eat breakfast in her
316. 10:36room because this here is a public area
317. 10:39and I am a paying guest as well as her.
318. 10:41Now, Georgina's response was even more
319. 10:43direct. He went off on her Instagram,
320. 10:45tagged Chapel directly, and wrote,
321. 10:48"Without your fans, you would be
322. 10:49nothing." And to the fans, she does not
323. 10:52deserve your affection. Now, it gets
324. 10:54worse. The backlash was so bad that the
325. 10:57mayor of Rio de Janeiro, he banned
326. 10:59Chapel from performing at the Total
327. 11:01Mundo no Rio.
328. 11:02>> [music]
329. 11:03>> The mayor said, "As long as I'm in
330. 11:04charge of this city, this young lady
331. 11:06will never perform at Total Mundo no
332. 11:09Rio."
333. 11:10I doubt that Shakira would ever do that.
334. 11:12All right, so let's zoom out for a
335. 11:14little bit. From everything that we
336. 11:16heard so far, one could say Chapel's the
337. 11:18villain. She hates [music] kids. She
338. 11:21hates the paparazzi. She doesn't like
339. 11:22talking to her fans.
340. 11:24>> [music]
341. 11:24>> But, like I said earlier,
342. 11:26life is never really that simple.
343. 11:29Not that long ago, Chapel was just
344. 11:31Kaylee Rose from Willard, Missouri. She
345. 11:33was an underground cult favorite who was
346. 11:35dropped from her label with no income,
347. 11:36[music]
348. 11:37and then almost overnight, she became
349. 11:40one of the biggest pop stars on the
350. 11:41planet.
351. 11:42>> [music]
352. 11:42>> She was diagnosed with depression and
353. 11:44she was in therapy twice a week. And
354. 11:46then at the same time, people are
355. 11:47telling her, "Yeah, but you should still
356. 11:49smile [music] for some pictures." Now,
357. 11:51that doesn't excuse the Brazil
358. 11:52situation, and a child should never be
359. 11:55collateral damage in somebody's personal
360. 11:57issues. But, I think it shines a light
361. 11:59on a bigger conversation.
362. 12:01See, as a culture, we make the mistake
363. 12:03of putting celebrities on a pedestal and
364. 12:05treating them as if they're this other
365. 12:07being, and [music] we forget that
366. 12:09they're people just like us, and they
367. 12:11make mistakes just like we do. And as
368. 12:13far as Chapel goes, I think she can
369. 12:15learn something from this quote I always
370. 12:16come back to [music] that Miley Cyrus
371. 12:18said when she was talking about adapting
372. 12:21to success in the music industry.
373. 12:22>> You know what I think it is?
374. 12:24I understand the business I'm in. I'm in
375. 12:26the music industry. I'm in the record
376. 12:29business. So, when I sign a contract,
377. 12:32they're buying, you know, records that
378. 12:34they wish to sell. So, I understand that
379. 12:36I am setting myself up to become
380. 12:37merchandise. But, let me know what you
381. 12:39guys think in the comments. I thought
382. 12:41this was an interesting story, and I
383. 12:43tried to see it from both sides because
384. 12:45it's easy to say Chapel [music] should
385. 12:47just be nicer to people. But, at the
386. 12:49same time, being in the spotlight and
387. 12:51having this massive success so fast, it
388. 12:54has destroyed a lot of people. So,
389. 12:56I guess that's just the price of fame.
390. 12:58Thank you guys so much for watching till
391. 13:00the end. You know, while I was
392. 13:01researching for this video, Chapel's
393. 13:03story reminded me a lot of Katy Perry's
394. 13:05story. It kind of has the same arc. You
395. 13:07got a small-town girl from a super
396. 13:08religious family. She goes off to be a
397. 13:11pop star and eventually loses her way.
398. 13:13>> [music]
399. 13:14>> And so, if you like this story, I think
400. 13:15you'll like my video on Katy Perry,
401. 13:17which I'll leave on the screen here
402. 13:18next.
403. 13:19I'll catch you guys over there. Till
404. 13:21next time.
405. 13:22Peace.