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  1. 0:00President of the Republic of Poland, Mr.
  2. 0:03Karol Nawrocki. K.
  3. 1:31Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your
  4. 1:33numerous attendance and for confirming
  5. 1:35your presence.
  6. 1:37During today's meeting of the National
  7. 1:39Security Council, we will discuss issues
  8. 1:41related to the state of national
  9. 1:43security and the permanent presence of
  10. 1:45American troops in Poland.
  11. 1:48Mr. President, please take the floor.
  12. 1:52>> Thank you very much.
  13. 1:55Mr. Speaker, dear Prime Minister, former
  14. 1:58Prime Ministers, dear ministers, dear
  15. 2:00chairs of parliamentary clubs and
  16. 2:02caucuses.
  17. 2:09Ladies and gentlemen, I have convened
  18. 2:11today's National Security Council
  19. 2:13meeting because Poland is currently
  20. 2:15facing decisions of fundamental
  21. 2:16importance for our security, decisions
  22. 2:19that will impact not just the coming
  23. 2:21months, but entire decades to come.
  24. 2:29There are moments when the highest
  25. 2:31authorities of the Republic must be
  26. 2:33present, must take action, and must
  27. 2:34assume full responsibility for the
  28. 2:36affairs of our homeland.
  29. 2:41Today's meeting of the National Security
  30. 2:43Council is precisely such a time.
  31. 2:48The subject of our meeting was intended
  32. 2:50to be primarily the state and future of
  33. 2:52Polish security, including the strategic
  34. 2:55importance of the permanent presence of
  35. 2:57United States troops on the territory of
  36. 2:59the Republic.
  37. 3:02These are matters of the highest state
  38. 3:04importance.
  39. 3:05I believe we all agree on that.
  40. 3:09Matters that require responsibility,
  41. 3:11predictability, and the cooperation of
  42. 3:14all major state institutions.
  43. 3:18The same applies to the ongoing process
  44. 3:20of updating the national security
  45. 3:22strategy, which must be urgently
  46. 3:24finalized.
  47. 3:29However, the actions of the government
  48. 3:31last Friday, led by Prime Minister
  49. 3:33Donald Tusk, mean that we are meeting
  50. 3:35today in unprecedented circumstances, in
  51. 3:38a situation of a serious constitutional
  52. 3:40crisis, which we cannot, ladies and
  53. 3:43gentlemen, ignore today.
  54. 3:48In a situation where the most serious
  55. 3:50allegations regarding the illegality of
  56. 3:52the government's actions against the
  57. 3:54Constitutional Tribunal are justified.
  58. 3:58On Friday, October 30, a situation
  59. 4:00unprecedented in the Third Republic
  60. 4:03after 1989 occurred.
  61. 4:07By a political decision of the
  62. 4:08government, it was decided to unlawfully
  63. 4:10take over the Constitutional Tribunal.
  64. 4:13They attempted to do this while taking
  65. 4:15advantage of my absence from Poland.
  66. 4:19That is why, as you know, I interrupted
  67. 4:21my trip abroad and returned to Warsaw.
  68. 4:25I concluded, ladies and gentlemen, that
  69. 4:27it is my duty to be in the country at a
  70. 4:30time of such serious threat to the
  71. 4:32stability of the Polish legal order.
  72. 4:36The government chose the night preceding
  73. 4:39All Saints 'Day, important to Poles, to
  74. 4:41introduce people to the Tribunal who
  75. 4:43consider themselves Constitutional
  76. 4:45Tribunal judges, even though they are
  77. 4:47not judges under the law, which I
  78. 4:49communicated to those individuals on
  79. 4:51Friday night.
  80. 4:55These people, under police escort, claim
  81. 4:58the right to suspend judges and take
  82. 5:00over their duties, acting without any
  83. 5:02legal basis whatsoever.
  84. 5:05And this position, I want this to be
  85. 5:07clearly stated, is unanimously confirmed
  86. 5:09by the First President of the Supreme
  87. 5:11Court, the President of the Supreme
  88. 5:13Administrative Court, and the President
  89. 5:15of the Supreme Bar Council.
  90. 5:18Many experts in constitutional law also
  91. 5:20firmly confirm the lack of grounds for
  92. 5:23the actions taken.
  93. 5:25Worst of all, ladies and gentlemen, all
  94. 5:27of this was done by treating police
  95. 5:29officers and the State Protection
  96. 5:31Service as mere tools.
  97. 5:33I just met with the police trade unions
  98. 5:35a moment ago.
  99. 5:39There is no doubt that the police
  100. 5:40officers know they have been cynically
  101. 5:42used to implement a political scenario,
  102. 5:44which is very disturbing.
  103. 5:49I am looking toward the Minister of the
  104. 5:50Interior.
  105. 5:52Ladies and gentlemen, mechanisms of
  106. 5:54mutual oversight between authorities
  107. 5:56still exist in Poland.
  108. 5:59These are, of course, the review of the
  109. 6:01constitutionality of enacted law, an
  110. 6:03independent judiciary, as well as the
  111. 6:05presidential veto and the parliamentary
  112. 6:07accountability of the government.
  113. 6:10These institutions serve various
  114. 6:12functions, of course, but they all serve
  115. 6:14one fundamental principle.
  116. 6:17No authority may be unlimited.
  117. 6:21These mechanisms are not an obstacle to
  118. 6:23democracy; they are a safeguard, and
  119. 6:25that is why they must never be
  120. 6:27subordinated to immediate political
  121. 6:29needs.
  122. 6:34Rule of law, ladies and gentlemen,
  123. 6:36however we each may understand it,
  124. 6:38cannot be restored through methods that
  125. 6:40themselves flagrantly violate the law.
  126. 6:45I have described these government
  127. 6:47actions, ladies and gentlemen, before
  128. 6:49the start of our main discussion, so
  129. 6:51that we may all be aware of the systemic
  130. 6:53position we find ourselves in. However,
  131. 6:55it is impossible not to point out who is
  132. 6:57responsible for this entire situation.
  133. 7:00Full responsibility for every police
  134. 7:02officer at the Tribunal, for all illegal
  135. 7:04actions such as the suspension of judges
  136. 7:07, illegal orders, and the entry into the
  137. 7:09Tribunal from the Prime Minister’s
  138. 7:11office, lies with one man.
  139. 7:14A man who is present in this room, at
  140. 7:16whom I smile, although I do not
  141. 7:18understand his actions, I do not accept
  142. 7:21them, and I oppose them.
  143. 7:23And that is Prime Minister Donald Tusk.
  144. 7:25Mr. Prime Minister, in your case, in my
  145. 7:27estimation, it is not just a crime
  146. 7:29against the Constitution of the Republic
  147. 7:31; it is something more, it is a mistake
  148. 7:33.
  149. 7:34The Prime Minister already knows he has
  150. 7:36made a mistake, and we both know that
  151. 7:39today, your former allies are no longer
  152. 7:41by your side, and all you have left is
  153. 7:43violence, which is equally appalling.
  154. 7:48To realize his ideological fiction, the
  155. 7:51Prime Minister is destroying Poland's
  156. 7:53image abroad, which is also a subject of
  157. 7:55public discussion in various parts of
  158. 7:57the world.
  159. 7:59He scares away investors and undermines
  160. 8:02the foundations of social ties and
  161. 8:04public trust.
  162. 8:06When people cannot get to a doctor and
  163. 8:08fuel prices at stations are unacceptable
  164. 8:10, even though my signature on the bill
  165. 8:12was meant to create a situation where
  166. 8:14those prices would be reasonable. That
  167. 8:16has not happened. Those prices are still
  168. 8:18not reasonable, while debt reaches
  169. 8:20record levels that threaten the
  170. 8:22stability of the state.
  171. 8:25The Prime Minister decides, on the eve
  172. 8:27of a holiday, to forcefully take over an
  173. 8:29independent institution of the Polish
  174. 8:31state.
  175. 8:33That is not how democrats act.
  176. 8:37Mr. Prime Minister, I want to tell you
  177. 8:39and everyone here today at the National
  178. 8:41Security Council that I will, of course
  179. 8:43, not let this pass.
  180. 8:47I will use all the prerogatives
  181. 8:49available to me, as well as the
  182. 8:51legitimacy and mandate given to me by
  183. 8:53the public, to stop this attempt to
  184. 8:54overturn the constitutional order of the
  185. 8:57Republic.
  186. 8:58Mercy, of course, commands us to forgive
  187. 9:01. I am a man of mercy, but of course,
  188. 9:03before forgiveness, ladies and gentlemen
  189. 9:05, one must confess their sins, show
  190. 9:08remorse, and step back from those images
  191. 9:10that the whole world has seen because of
  192. 9:12the Prime Minister. I expect the Prime
  193. 9:15Minister—Mr. Prime Minister—to come to
  194. 9:17his senses, make amends, and return the
  195. 9:20affairs of Poland to the Polish people.
  196. 9:22Independence Day is ahead of us.
  197. 9:26I expect that before the week in which
  198. 9:28we will celebrate together as a nation
  199. 9:30begins, the Prime Minister will be ready
  200. 9:32to curb the impulses of his power and
  201. 9:34cease the illegal actions of his
  202. 9:36representatives in the Constitutional
  203. 9:38Tribunal building.
  204. 9:41Ladies and gentlemen, we cannot, of
  205. 9:43course, allow a situation where a lack
  206. 9:46of internal state stability affects our
  207. 9:48most important tasks, namely the
  208. 9:50protection of the safety of our citizens
  209. 9:52.
  210. 9:53there is no external security. This is
  211. 9:55obvious. Without internal security.
  212. 9:58These are inseparable conditions.
  213. 10:01We must remember that security is not
  214. 10:03given to us once and for all.
  215. 10:05Especially today, we know that
  216. 10:07strengthening alliances requires daily
  217. 10:10work, and that credibility is built over
  218. 10:12years.
  219. 10:13And unfortunately, this credibility can
  220. 10:15be undermined in a single night.
  221. 10:20After the end of the period of
  222. 10:22geopolitical stabilization at the turn
  223. 10:24of the century, Poland must today be
  224. 10:26prepared to function in conditions of
  225. 10:28long-term threat, strong pressure on
  226. 10:30society, critical infrastructure, and
  227. 10:33the economy, as well as to react
  228. 10:34independently and cooperate with allies
  229. 10:37.
  230. 10:41Therefore, I will now move on to the
  231. 10:43issues most important for our meeting,
  232. 10:45to the issues outlined in the invitation
  233. 10:47addressed to you, to the issues of
  234. 10:49cooperation and strategic partnership
  235. 10:51regarding American bases in Poland.
  236. 10:55Poland has been making the effort for
  237. 10:57years.
  238. 10:59Many circles have undertaken this effort
  239. 11:02so that the presence of United States
  240. 11:04troops in our country would have the
  241. 11:06most permanent, credible, and strategic
  242. 11:08character possible.
  243. 11:10It is one of the pillars of deterring a
  244. 11:12potential aggressor. It is an important
  245. 11:15element of the security of NATO's
  246. 11:16eastern flank.
  247. 11:18It is also a testament to the trust
  248. 11:20between Poland and the United States.
  249. 11:24But allied trust, as we all know, is not
  250. 11:26based solely on signed documents or
  251. 11:29declarations made.
  252. 11:32It is also based on the conviction that
  253. 11:34a partner is a stable, responsible state
  254. 11:37capable of fulfilling its obligations.
  255. 11:40Therefore, today's conversation will
  256. 11:42concern the military presence of the
  257. 11:44United States in Poland, including the
  258. 11:46prospects for its permanent
  259. 11:48strengthening.
  260. 11:49It is about concrete actions, set
  261. 11:51deadlines, and the preparation of
  262. 11:53decisions that we all must make.
  263. 11:58That is why today I expect from all of
  264. 12:00us, ladies and gentlemen, from the
  265. 12:02government side, from the Prime Minister
  266. 12:04, concrete information regarding the
  267. 12:06progress of preparations for a permanent
  268. 12:09allied military presence, prepared legal
  269. 12:11acts, and the resources necessary to
  270. 12:13implement this undertaking, which is
  271. 12:15fundamental and essential for our
  272. 12:17cooperation with our strategic partner.
  273. 12:23We must, of course, adopt an even higher
  274. 12:25level of engagement and efficiency in
  275. 12:27this process, because more than a year
  276. 12:30has passed since obtaining the political
  277. 12:32declaration during my visit to
  278. 12:33Washington with the President and
  279. 12:35several other talks, and recently this
  280. 12:37commitment of our strategic partner has
  281. 12:39been confirmed several times at various
  282. 12:42levels.
  283. 12:44So we must reach, ladies and gentlemen,
  284. 12:46a concrete discussion about how the
  285. 12:49entire legislative process preparation
  286. 12:51is going, and our progress.
  287. 12:54The window of opportunity for the
  288. 12:56establishment of a permanent American
  289. 12:58military base in Poland is open, and I
  290. 13:00expect greater activity, activity from
  291. 13:02the government in this matter. This is
  292. 13:04all the more important because, since
  293. 13:07September 2025, the Republic has been in
  294. 13:09a special time, as we all know, ladies
  295. 13:12and gentlemen.
  296. 13:14In September, in September 2025, the
  297. 13:17culmination of active operations
  298. 13:19conducted by the Russian Federation took
  299. 13:22place.
  300. 13:24This is the moment we can call a
  301. 13:25culmination, and God willing, it remains
  302. 13:28just that—that it was the culmination of
  303. 13:30the Russian Federation's hybrid
  304. 13:32activities.
  305. 13:33It has been over 13 months since the
  306. 13:36violation of Polish airspace by Russian
  307. 13:38drones.
  308. 13:40Further actions aimed at destabilizing
  309. 13:42our security are being undertaken, and
  310. 13:45this is also what the classified part of
  311. 13:47the National Security Council meeting is
  312. 13:49about.
  313. 13:50The aggressor, even though acting below
  314. 13:53the threshold of war, must be
  315. 13:54effectively deterred.
  316. 13:56No form of escalation can seem
  317. 13:58acceptable to the Russian Federation.
  318. 14:01It should not seem profitable to them,
  319. 14:03ladies and gentlemen.
  320. 14:07This will be possible when the
  321. 14:08deterrence potential of our army and the
  322. 14:10potential of our allies present on our
  323. 14:12territory are significantly strengthened
  324. 14:14.
  325. 14:16Ladies and gentlemen, we also need
  326. 14:18actions involving a redefinition of
  327. 14:20strategic frameworks.
  328. 14:22The NATO 3.0 concept.
  329. 14:26The improved architecture of deterrence
  330. 14:28and defense of the alliance must be
  331. 14:30reflected in the new national security
  332. 14:32strategy.
  333. 14:33The results of the work of the National
  334. 14:35Security Bureau and the Ministry of
  335. 14:37National Defense in the form of a draft
  336. 14:39for a new strategy have already been
  337. 14:41submitted. I would like to thank Deputy
  338. 14:43Prime Minister Kosiniak-Kamysz and
  339. 14:45Minister Bartosz Grodecki very much.
  340. 14:49To all employees and associates of the
  341. 14:51Ministry of National Defense and the
  342. 14:53National Security Bureau for bringing
  343. 14:54this strategy to the point where we are
  344. 14:57now.
  345. 15:00Now, these results must be urgently
  346. 15:02adopted by the government and submitted
  347. 15:04for my approval.
  348. 15:06Such is the security necessity of the
  349. 15:08Republic of Poland.
  350. 15:10We need a national security strategy.
  351. 15:15Any delay in the new national security
  352. 15:18strategy is a missed opportunity for a
  353. 15:20new command and control system and a
  354. 15:22risk to Poland's proper place in the
  355. 15:24allied security architecture.
  356. 15:28Of course, Poland's security is not
  357. 15:30ensured by declarations. Poland's
  358. 15:33security is ensured by decisions made on
  359. 15:35time, in accordance with the law, and
  360. 15:37consistently implemented.
  361. 15:40Investments in security and defense
  362. 15:42cannot be burdened by the risk of
  363. 15:44political discretion or conditionality.
  364. 15:48Therefore, I am naturally waiting, and I
  365. 15:50think the nation is waiting—the public
  366. 15:52is waiting for the Council of Ministers
  367. 15:54to adopt the updated national security
  368. 15:56strategy, which is the starting point
  369. 15:59for other executive documents, and I
  370. 16:01think the Polish Army is waiting too,
  371. 16:03looking toward General Kukuła.
  372. 16:07Distinguished National Security Council
  373. 16:09, history has taught us that
  374. 16:11independence can be lost not only due to
  375. 16:13the superiority of an external adversary
  376. 16:16.
  377. 16:19It can also be weakened by our own
  378. 16:21irresponsibility, the neglect of
  379. 16:23institutions, and an inability to
  380. 16:25cooperate on fundamental issues.
  381. 16:29Today, we are no longer doomed to repeat
  382. 16:31the mistakes of our past. We are a
  383. 16:34member of NATO, the North Atlantic
  384. 16:36Alliance. We are a member of the
  385. 16:38European Union. We have our own armed
  386. 16:40forces.
  387. 16:42We also have a strong society and
  388. 16:44enormous economic potential.
  389. 16:48We have allies; we have opportunities
  390. 16:51that earlier generations of Poles could
  391. 16:53only dream of.
  392. 16:55And I have the impression that we are
  393. 16:57aware of this, ladies and gentlemen.
  394. 16:59However, all these assets require one
  395. 17:01thing. State responsibility.
  396. 17:04State responsibility.
  397. 17:10If the Prime Minister—and I want this to
  398. 17:12resonate clearly—through Mr. Berek and
  399. 17:14the lady with the double surname, wishes
  400. 17:16to shirk this responsibility and
  401. 17:18endanger our homeland because political
  402. 17:21interest demands it, then I warn that
  403. 17:23this is the wrong path, one that erodes
  404. 17:25state responsibility and the resilience
  405. 17:27of Polish society.
  406. 17:31We have matters that we must address.
  407. 17:33Take, for example, our security strategy
  408. 17:36. National security.
  409. 17:39And sacrificing this security,
  410. 17:41responsibility, resilience, and the
  411. 17:43presence of American troops in Poland
  412. 17:45because of individuals who are not
  413. 17:47judges of the Constitutional Tribunal is
  414. 17:50, in my view, deeply irresponsible, and
  415. 17:52the price we are paying for this as the
  416. 17:55Republic is unacceptable.
  417. 17:58Mr. Prime Minister, we Poles need a
  418. 18:00state today where politicians understand
  419. 18:03that their mandate is temporary.
  420. 18:06I look at all of you and I look at
  421. 18:07myself as well.
  422. 18:09But the interest of the Republic must be
  423. 18:11enduring.
  424. 18:13We need a state where a difference of
  425. 18:14opinion exists among us all.
  426. 18:19A difference of opinion does not mean
  427. 18:21permission to undermine common
  428. 18:22institutions, or to use the police
  429. 18:24politically, including around the
  430. 18:26Constitutional Tribunal.
  431. 18:30We need a state where even the sharpest
  432. 18:32dispute is resolved in accordance with
  433. 18:34the law, not through the escalation of
  434. 18:36force that we have observed in recent
  435. 18:38days in the Republic.
  436. 18:40And I do not expect, ladies and
  437. 18:42gentlemen, that political differences
  438. 18:44will disappear at this table. As I look
  439. 18:46at you, that has been impossible for
  440. 18:48decades.
  441. 18:49I have been in this profession for a
  442. 18:51shorter time than you.
  443. 18:54I expect something much more important:
  444. 18:56that we will all be able to recognize
  445. 18:58the boundary where party interest ends
  446. 19:00and responsibility for the security of
  447. 19:02the homeland begins.
  448. 19:05In fundamental matters, the state must
  449. 19:07be capable of acting independently of
  450. 19:09political conflict.
  451. 19:11And today, we will discuss such matters
  452. 19:13in the closed session.
  453. 19:15Power passes more quickly than we all
  454. 19:17think.
  455. 19:19Governments change, as you well know.
  456. 19:23Political majorities come and political
  457. 19:25majorities go.
  458. 19:26But the Republic must endure. And that
  459. 19:28is the moment we find ourselves in today
  460. 19:30.
  461. 19:31Poland is not the property of any
  462. 19:33political faction, any politician, or
  463. 19:36any party.
  464. 19:38It is not the property of any government
  465. 19:40, it is not the property of a party; it
  466. 19:43is the Republic.
  467. 19:44It is the property of the Republic, the
  468. 19:46common good of the entire nation, which
  469. 19:49is, ladies and gentlemen, the sovereign
  470. 19:51, and which speaks on important,
  471. 19:53significant political issues on the
  472. 19:55streets, in the cities, and in Polish
  473. 19:57villages. And we should remember this.
  474. 20:00For Poland to endure, it must be strong
  475. 20:03in law, strong in its institutions,
  476. 20:05credible to its allies, and secure both
  477. 20:08internally and externally.
  478. 20:11And I have the impression that this is
  479. 20:13what the Poles watching us expect from
  480. 20:14us today.
  481. 20:15This is what Polish reason of state
  482. 20:17requires.
  483. 20:19And the General and the Polish military
  484. 20:21also know perfectly well that there is
  485. 20:24no strong army without a strong state
  486. 20:26and a strong society, and there is no
  487. 20:28secure Poland without the responsibility
  488. 20:30of those who govern it.
  489. 20:32So I have a deep conviction and hope
  490. 20:34that, even on these two points which
  491. 20:36will be the subject of our discussion,
  492. 20:38we will be able, dear ladies and
  493. 20:40gentlemen, to discuss the security of
  494. 20:42Polish women and men, as this seems the
  495. 20:44most important thing today. This is our
  496. 20:46only goal, which we are obligated to
  497. 20:48fulfill. A free, independent, and
  498. 20:50sovereign Poland.
  499. 20:53Thank you for coming, and I encourage an
  500. 20:55open and substantive discussion on the
  501. 20:57most important topic, which is the
  502. 20:59security of Poland.
  503. 21:02Thank you very much, Mr. President,
  504. 21:04ladies and gentlemen, we thank the media
  505. 21:06representatives very much for
  506. 21:08participating in the open session.
  507. 21:10We will continue the classified talks
  508. 21:12immediately after the media leaves the
  509. 21:14room.
  510. 21:15Thank you.

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