Wystąpienie Prezydenta RP podczas Rady Bezpieczeństwa Narodowego. — Transcript
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- 0:00President of the Republic of Poland, Mr.
- 0:03Karol Nawrocki. K.
- 1:31Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your
- 1:33numerous attendance and for confirming
- 1:35your presence.
- 1:37During today's meeting of the National
- 1:39Security Council, we will discuss issues
- 1:41related to the state of national
- 1:43security and the permanent presence of
- 1:45American troops in Poland.
- 1:48Mr. President, please take the floor.
- 1:52>> Thank you very much.
- 1:55Mr. Speaker, dear Prime Minister, former
- 1:58Prime Ministers, dear ministers, dear
- 2:00chairs of parliamentary clubs and
- 2:02caucuses.
- 2:09Ladies and gentlemen, I have convened
- 2:11today's National Security Council
- 2:13meeting because Poland is currently
- 2:15facing decisions of fundamental
- 2:16importance for our security, decisions
- 2:19that will impact not just the coming
- 2:21months, but entire decades to come.
- 2:29There are moments when the highest
- 2:31authorities of the Republic must be
- 2:33present, must take action, and must
- 2:34assume full responsibility for the
- 2:36affairs of our homeland.
- 2:41Today's meeting of the National Security
- 2:43Council is precisely such a time.
- 2:48The subject of our meeting was intended
- 2:50to be primarily the state and future of
- 2:52Polish security, including the strategic
- 2:55importance of the permanent presence of
- 2:57United States troops on the territory of
- 2:59the Republic.
- 3:02These are matters of the highest state
- 3:04importance.
- 3:05I believe we all agree on that.
- 3:09Matters that require responsibility,
- 3:11predictability, and the cooperation of
- 3:14all major state institutions.
- 3:18The same applies to the ongoing process
- 3:20of updating the national security
- 3:22strategy, which must be urgently
- 3:24finalized.
- 3:29However, the actions of the government
- 3:31last Friday, led by Prime Minister
- 3:33Donald Tusk, mean that we are meeting
- 3:35today in unprecedented circumstances, in
- 3:38a situation of a serious constitutional
- 3:40crisis, which we cannot, ladies and
- 3:43gentlemen, ignore today.
- 3:48In a situation where the most serious
- 3:50allegations regarding the illegality of
- 3:52the government's actions against the
- 3:54Constitutional Tribunal are justified.
- 3:58On Friday, October 30, a situation
- 4:00unprecedented in the Third Republic
- 4:03after 1989 occurred.
- 4:07By a political decision of the
- 4:08government, it was decided to unlawfully
- 4:10take over the Constitutional Tribunal.
- 4:13They attempted to do this while taking
- 4:15advantage of my absence from Poland.
- 4:19That is why, as you know, I interrupted
- 4:21my trip abroad and returned to Warsaw.
- 4:25I concluded, ladies and gentlemen, that
- 4:27it is my duty to be in the country at a
- 4:30time of such serious threat to the
- 4:32stability of the Polish legal order.
- 4:36The government chose the night preceding
- 4:39All Saints 'Day, important to Poles, to
- 4:41introduce people to the Tribunal who
- 4:43consider themselves Constitutional
- 4:45Tribunal judges, even though they are
- 4:47not judges under the law, which I
- 4:49communicated to those individuals on
- 4:51Friday night.
- 4:55These people, under police escort, claim
- 4:58the right to suspend judges and take
- 5:00over their duties, acting without any
- 5:02legal basis whatsoever.
- 5:05And this position, I want this to be
- 5:07clearly stated, is unanimously confirmed
- 5:09by the First President of the Supreme
- 5:11Court, the President of the Supreme
- 5:13Administrative Court, and the President
- 5:15of the Supreme Bar Council.
- 5:18Many experts in constitutional law also
- 5:20firmly confirm the lack of grounds for
- 5:23the actions taken.
- 5:25Worst of all, ladies and gentlemen, all
- 5:27of this was done by treating police
- 5:29officers and the State Protection
- 5:31Service as mere tools.
- 5:33I just met with the police trade unions
- 5:35a moment ago.
- 5:39There is no doubt that the police
- 5:40officers know they have been cynically
- 5:42used to implement a political scenario,
- 5:44which is very disturbing.
- 5:49I am looking toward the Minister of the
- 5:50Interior.
- 5:52Ladies and gentlemen, mechanisms of
- 5:54mutual oversight between authorities
- 5:56still exist in Poland.
- 5:59These are, of course, the review of the
- 6:01constitutionality of enacted law, an
- 6:03independent judiciary, as well as the
- 6:05presidential veto and the parliamentary
- 6:07accountability of the government.
- 6:10These institutions serve various
- 6:12functions, of course, but they all serve
- 6:14one fundamental principle.
- 6:17No authority may be unlimited.
- 6:21These mechanisms are not an obstacle to
- 6:23democracy; they are a safeguard, and
- 6:25that is why they must never be
- 6:27subordinated to immediate political
- 6:29needs.
- 6:34Rule of law, ladies and gentlemen,
- 6:36however we each may understand it,
- 6:38cannot be restored through methods that
- 6:40themselves flagrantly violate the law.
- 6:45I have described these government
- 6:47actions, ladies and gentlemen, before
- 6:49the start of our main discussion, so
- 6:51that we may all be aware of the systemic
- 6:53position we find ourselves in. However,
- 6:55it is impossible not to point out who is
- 6:57responsible for this entire situation.
- 7:00Full responsibility for every police
- 7:02officer at the Tribunal, for all illegal
- 7:04actions such as the suspension of judges
- 7:07, illegal orders, and the entry into the
- 7:09Tribunal from the Prime Minister’s
- 7:11office, lies with one man.
- 7:14A man who is present in this room, at
- 7:16whom I smile, although I do not
- 7:18understand his actions, I do not accept
- 7:21them, and I oppose them.
- 7:23And that is Prime Minister Donald Tusk.
- 7:25Mr. Prime Minister, in your case, in my
- 7:27estimation, it is not just a crime
- 7:29against the Constitution of the Republic
- 7:31; it is something more, it is a mistake
- 7:33.
- 7:34The Prime Minister already knows he has
- 7:36made a mistake, and we both know that
- 7:39today, your former allies are no longer
- 7:41by your side, and all you have left is
- 7:43violence, which is equally appalling.
- 7:48To realize his ideological fiction, the
- 7:51Prime Minister is destroying Poland's
- 7:53image abroad, which is also a subject of
- 7:55public discussion in various parts of
- 7:57the world.
- 7:59He scares away investors and undermines
- 8:02the foundations of social ties and
- 8:04public trust.
- 8:06When people cannot get to a doctor and
- 8:08fuel prices at stations are unacceptable
- 8:10, even though my signature on the bill
- 8:12was meant to create a situation where
- 8:14those prices would be reasonable. That
- 8:16has not happened. Those prices are still
- 8:18not reasonable, while debt reaches
- 8:20record levels that threaten the
- 8:22stability of the state.
- 8:25The Prime Minister decides, on the eve
- 8:27of a holiday, to forcefully take over an
- 8:29independent institution of the Polish
- 8:31state.
- 8:33That is not how democrats act.
- 8:37Mr. Prime Minister, I want to tell you
- 8:39and everyone here today at the National
- 8:41Security Council that I will, of course
- 8:43, not let this pass.
- 8:47I will use all the prerogatives
- 8:49available to me, as well as the
- 8:51legitimacy and mandate given to me by
- 8:53the public, to stop this attempt to
- 8:54overturn the constitutional order of the
- 8:57Republic.
- 8:58Mercy, of course, commands us to forgive
- 9:01. I am a man of mercy, but of course,
- 9:03before forgiveness, ladies and gentlemen
- 9:05, one must confess their sins, show
- 9:08remorse, and step back from those images
- 9:10that the whole world has seen because of
- 9:12the Prime Minister. I expect the Prime
- 9:15Minister—Mr. Prime Minister—to come to
- 9:17his senses, make amends, and return the
- 9:20affairs of Poland to the Polish people.
- 9:22Independence Day is ahead of us.
- 9:26I expect that before the week in which
- 9:28we will celebrate together as a nation
- 9:30begins, the Prime Minister will be ready
- 9:32to curb the impulses of his power and
- 9:34cease the illegal actions of his
- 9:36representatives in the Constitutional
- 9:38Tribunal building.
- 9:41Ladies and gentlemen, we cannot, of
- 9:43course, allow a situation where a lack
- 9:46of internal state stability affects our
- 9:48most important tasks, namely the
- 9:50protection of the safety of our citizens
- 9:52.
- 9:53there is no external security. This is
- 9:55obvious. Without internal security.
- 9:58These are inseparable conditions.
- 10:01We must remember that security is not
- 10:03given to us once and for all.
- 10:05Especially today, we know that
- 10:07strengthening alliances requires daily
- 10:10work, and that credibility is built over
- 10:12years.
- 10:13And unfortunately, this credibility can
- 10:15be undermined in a single night.
- 10:20After the end of the period of
- 10:22geopolitical stabilization at the turn
- 10:24of the century, Poland must today be
- 10:26prepared to function in conditions of
- 10:28long-term threat, strong pressure on
- 10:30society, critical infrastructure, and
- 10:33the economy, as well as to react
- 10:34independently and cooperate with allies
- 10:37.
- 10:41Therefore, I will now move on to the
- 10:43issues most important for our meeting,
- 10:45to the issues outlined in the invitation
- 10:47addressed to you, to the issues of
- 10:49cooperation and strategic partnership
- 10:51regarding American bases in Poland.
- 10:55Poland has been making the effort for
- 10:57years.
- 10:59Many circles have undertaken this effort
- 11:02so that the presence of United States
- 11:04troops in our country would have the
- 11:06most permanent, credible, and strategic
- 11:08character possible.
- 11:10It is one of the pillars of deterring a
- 11:12potential aggressor. It is an important
- 11:15element of the security of NATO's
- 11:16eastern flank.
- 11:18It is also a testament to the trust
- 11:20between Poland and the United States.
- 11:24But allied trust, as we all know, is not
- 11:26based solely on signed documents or
- 11:29declarations made.
- 11:32It is also based on the conviction that
- 11:34a partner is a stable, responsible state
- 11:37capable of fulfilling its obligations.
- 11:40Therefore, today's conversation will
- 11:42concern the military presence of the
- 11:44United States in Poland, including the
- 11:46prospects for its permanent
- 11:48strengthening.
- 11:49It is about concrete actions, set
- 11:51deadlines, and the preparation of
- 11:53decisions that we all must make.
- 11:58That is why today I expect from all of
- 12:00us, ladies and gentlemen, from the
- 12:02government side, from the Prime Minister
- 12:04, concrete information regarding the
- 12:06progress of preparations for a permanent
- 12:09allied military presence, prepared legal
- 12:11acts, and the resources necessary to
- 12:13implement this undertaking, which is
- 12:15fundamental and essential for our
- 12:17cooperation with our strategic partner.
- 12:23We must, of course, adopt an even higher
- 12:25level of engagement and efficiency in
- 12:27this process, because more than a year
- 12:30has passed since obtaining the political
- 12:32declaration during my visit to
- 12:33Washington with the President and
- 12:35several other talks, and recently this
- 12:37commitment of our strategic partner has
- 12:39been confirmed several times at various
- 12:42levels.
- 12:44So we must reach, ladies and gentlemen,
- 12:46a concrete discussion about how the
- 12:49entire legislative process preparation
- 12:51is going, and our progress.
- 12:54The window of opportunity for the
- 12:56establishment of a permanent American
- 12:58military base in Poland is open, and I
- 13:00expect greater activity, activity from
- 13:02the government in this matter. This is
- 13:04all the more important because, since
- 13:07September 2025, the Republic has been in
- 13:09a special time, as we all know, ladies
- 13:12and gentlemen.
- 13:14In September, in September 2025, the
- 13:17culmination of active operations
- 13:19conducted by the Russian Federation took
- 13:22place.
- 13:24This is the moment we can call a
- 13:25culmination, and God willing, it remains
- 13:28just that—that it was the culmination of
- 13:30the Russian Federation's hybrid
- 13:32activities.
- 13:33It has been over 13 months since the
- 13:36violation of Polish airspace by Russian
- 13:38drones.
- 13:40Further actions aimed at destabilizing
- 13:42our security are being undertaken, and
- 13:45this is also what the classified part of
- 13:47the National Security Council meeting is
- 13:49about.
- 13:50The aggressor, even though acting below
- 13:53the threshold of war, must be
- 13:54effectively deterred.
- 13:56No form of escalation can seem
- 13:58acceptable to the Russian Federation.
- 14:01It should not seem profitable to them,
- 14:03ladies and gentlemen.
- 14:07This will be possible when the
- 14:08deterrence potential of our army and the
- 14:10potential of our allies present on our
- 14:12territory are significantly strengthened
- 14:14.
- 14:16Ladies and gentlemen, we also need
- 14:18actions involving a redefinition of
- 14:20strategic frameworks.
- 14:22The NATO 3.0 concept.
- 14:26The improved architecture of deterrence
- 14:28and defense of the alliance must be
- 14:30reflected in the new national security
- 14:32strategy.
- 14:33The results of the work of the National
- 14:35Security Bureau and the Ministry of
- 14:37National Defense in the form of a draft
- 14:39for a new strategy have already been
- 14:41submitted. I would like to thank Deputy
- 14:43Prime Minister Kosiniak-Kamysz and
- 14:45Minister Bartosz Grodecki very much.
- 14:49To all employees and associates of the
- 14:51Ministry of National Defense and the
- 14:53National Security Bureau for bringing
- 14:54this strategy to the point where we are
- 14:57now.
- 15:00Now, these results must be urgently
- 15:02adopted by the government and submitted
- 15:04for my approval.
- 15:06Such is the security necessity of the
- 15:08Republic of Poland.
- 15:10We need a national security strategy.
- 15:15Any delay in the new national security
- 15:18strategy is a missed opportunity for a
- 15:20new command and control system and a
- 15:22risk to Poland's proper place in the
- 15:24allied security architecture.
- 15:28Of course, Poland's security is not
- 15:30ensured by declarations. Poland's
- 15:33security is ensured by decisions made on
- 15:35time, in accordance with the law, and
- 15:37consistently implemented.
- 15:40Investments in security and defense
- 15:42cannot be burdened by the risk of
- 15:44political discretion or conditionality.
- 15:48Therefore, I am naturally waiting, and I
- 15:50think the nation is waiting—the public
- 15:52is waiting for the Council of Ministers
- 15:54to adopt the updated national security
- 15:56strategy, which is the starting point
- 15:59for other executive documents, and I
- 16:01think the Polish Army is waiting too,
- 16:03looking toward General Kukuła.
- 16:07Distinguished National Security Council
- 16:09, history has taught us that
- 16:11independence can be lost not only due to
- 16:13the superiority of an external adversary
- 16:16.
- 16:19It can also be weakened by our own
- 16:21irresponsibility, the neglect of
- 16:23institutions, and an inability to
- 16:25cooperate on fundamental issues.
- 16:29Today, we are no longer doomed to repeat
- 16:31the mistakes of our past. We are a
- 16:34member of NATO, the North Atlantic
- 16:36Alliance. We are a member of the
- 16:38European Union. We have our own armed
- 16:40forces.
- 16:42We also have a strong society and
- 16:44enormous economic potential.
- 16:48We have allies; we have opportunities
- 16:51that earlier generations of Poles could
- 16:53only dream of.
- 16:55And I have the impression that we are
- 16:57aware of this, ladies and gentlemen.
- 16:59However, all these assets require one
- 17:01thing. State responsibility.
- 17:04State responsibility.
- 17:10If the Prime Minister—and I want this to
- 17:12resonate clearly—through Mr. Berek and
- 17:14the lady with the double surname, wishes
- 17:16to shirk this responsibility and
- 17:18endanger our homeland because political
- 17:21interest demands it, then I warn that
- 17:23this is the wrong path, one that erodes
- 17:25state responsibility and the resilience
- 17:27of Polish society.
- 17:31We have matters that we must address.
- 17:33Take, for example, our security strategy
- 17:36. National security.
- 17:39And sacrificing this security,
- 17:41responsibility, resilience, and the
- 17:43presence of American troops in Poland
- 17:45because of individuals who are not
- 17:47judges of the Constitutional Tribunal is
- 17:50, in my view, deeply irresponsible, and
- 17:52the price we are paying for this as the
- 17:55Republic is unacceptable.
- 17:58Mr. Prime Minister, we Poles need a
- 18:00state today where politicians understand
- 18:03that their mandate is temporary.
- 18:06I look at all of you and I look at
- 18:07myself as well.
- 18:09But the interest of the Republic must be
- 18:11enduring.
- 18:13We need a state where a difference of
- 18:14opinion exists among us all.
- 18:19A difference of opinion does not mean
- 18:21permission to undermine common
- 18:22institutions, or to use the police
- 18:24politically, including around the
- 18:26Constitutional Tribunal.
- 18:30We need a state where even the sharpest
- 18:32dispute is resolved in accordance with
- 18:34the law, not through the escalation of
- 18:36force that we have observed in recent
- 18:38days in the Republic.
- 18:40And I do not expect, ladies and
- 18:42gentlemen, that political differences
- 18:44will disappear at this table. As I look
- 18:46at you, that has been impossible for
- 18:48decades.
- 18:49I have been in this profession for a
- 18:51shorter time than you.
- 18:54I expect something much more important:
- 18:56that we will all be able to recognize
- 18:58the boundary where party interest ends
- 19:00and responsibility for the security of
- 19:02the homeland begins.
- 19:05In fundamental matters, the state must
- 19:07be capable of acting independently of
- 19:09political conflict.
- 19:11And today, we will discuss such matters
- 19:13in the closed session.
- 19:15Power passes more quickly than we all
- 19:17think.
- 19:19Governments change, as you well know.
- 19:23Political majorities come and political
- 19:25majorities go.
- 19:26But the Republic must endure. And that
- 19:28is the moment we find ourselves in today
- 19:30.
- 19:31Poland is not the property of any
- 19:33political faction, any politician, or
- 19:36any party.
- 19:38It is not the property of any government
- 19:40, it is not the property of a party; it
- 19:43is the Republic.
- 19:44It is the property of the Republic, the
- 19:46common good of the entire nation, which
- 19:49is, ladies and gentlemen, the sovereign
- 19:51, and which speaks on important,
- 19:53significant political issues on the
- 19:55streets, in the cities, and in Polish
- 19:57villages. And we should remember this.
- 20:00For Poland to endure, it must be strong
- 20:03in law, strong in its institutions,
- 20:05credible to its allies, and secure both
- 20:08internally and externally.
- 20:11And I have the impression that this is
- 20:13what the Poles watching us expect from
- 20:14us today.
- 20:15This is what Polish reason of state
- 20:17requires.
- 20:19And the General and the Polish military
- 20:21also know perfectly well that there is
- 20:24no strong army without a strong state
- 20:26and a strong society, and there is no
- 20:28secure Poland without the responsibility
- 20:30of those who govern it.
- 20:32So I have a deep conviction and hope
- 20:34that, even on these two points which
- 20:36will be the subject of our discussion,
- 20:38we will be able, dear ladies and
- 20:40gentlemen, to discuss the security of
- 20:42Polish women and men, as this seems the
- 20:44most important thing today. This is our
- 20:46only goal, which we are obligated to
- 20:48fulfill. A free, independent, and
- 20:50sovereign Poland.
- 20:53Thank you for coming, and I encourage an
- 20:55open and substantive discussion on the
- 20:57most important topic, which is the
- 20:59security of Poland.
- 21:02Thank you very much, Mr. President,
- 21:04ladies and gentlemen, we thank the media
- 21:06representatives very much for
- 21:08participating in the open session.
- 21:10We will continue the classified talks
- 21:12immediately after the media leaves the
- 21:14room.
- 21:15Thank you.
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