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Words and Rules: The Ingredients of Language with Dr. Steven Pinker (1999) — Transcript

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  37. 1:30his fascinating insights with
  38. 1:33us he is Professor of psychology and
  39. 1:36director of the Center for Cognitive
  40. 1:38neuroscience at the Massachusetts
  41. 1:40Institute of
  42. 1:42Technology he's also a best-selling
  43. 1:44author who has already shed light on the
  44. 1:46workings of the brain and how it
  45. 1:48processes language in his book how the
  46. 1:50mind works which was nominated for the
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  50. 2:021997 his previous book The Language
  51. 2:05Instinct was also a bestseller and was
  52. 2:08named one of the best 10 books of the
  53. 2:10Year by the New York Times book
  54. 2:13review his new book which will be
  55. 2:16available to sign copies of after the
  56. 2:18lecture is words and rules the
  57. 2:20ingredients of language it explores the
  58. 2:22inner workings of the human brain as it
  59. 2:25moves from thought to sound to language
  60. 2:28please welcome Dr Steve
  61. 2:40Pinker thank you very
  62. 2:43much I'd like to begin by acknowledging
  63. 2:47uh some of the people who collaborated
  64. 2:49on the ideas and experiments I'm going
  65. 2:51to talk about this evening uh a large
  66. 2:53number of uh colleagues former students
  67. 2:56collaborators at MIT and in particular
  68. 2:58two who are in the audience tonight
  69. 3:00Professor Gary Marcus of NYU and
  70. 3:03Professor Annie sanghas of Barnard
  71. 3:07College language comes so naturally to
  72. 3:09us that we're apt to forget what a
  73. 3:11strange and miraculous gift it is but
  74. 3:14think about what we're doing right now
  75. 3:16for the next hour you're going to sit
  76. 3:18patiently listening to a man make noise
  77. 3:20as he exhales now why would you do
  78. 3:22something like that not because I can
  79. 3:25claim that the sounds are particularly
  80. 3:27mifl but because there's information
  81. 3:30that's coded into the precise sequence
  82. 3:33of hisses and hums and squeaks and Pops
  83. 3:36that I'll make that you can recover
  84. 3:38allowing us to share ideas now over the
  85. 3:42next hour the ideas that I'm going to
  86. 3:46cause you to think our ideas about this
  87. 3:48gift language itself but with a slightly
  88. 3:52different set of noises I could be
  89. 3:53causing you to think thoughts about
  90. 3:56anything from theories of the origin of
  91. 3:58the universe to the latest twists and
  92. 4:01turns of your favorite soap opera plot
  93. 4:04uh this is the miracle of language its
  94. 4:06vast expressive power and I think the
  95. 4:09first question that we have to ask in
  96. 4:12understanding language is what is the
  97. 4:14trick what's the trick behind our
  98. 4:16ability to fill each other's minds with
  99. 4:19so many different kinds of ideas the
  100. 4:22point of the book words and rules and of
  101. 4:24the talk this evening is that there's
  102. 4:26not one trick but two of them and they
  103. 4:28were both ident ified in the 19th
  104. 4:30century by European linguists the first
  105. 4:33is the principle of the memorized word
  106. 4:37what fand do soer called the arbitrary
  107. 4:40sign now the word duck for example
  108. 4:43doesn't look like a duck or walk like a
  109. 4:46duck or quack like a duck but I can use
  110. 4:48it to get you to think the thought of a
  111. 4:50duck because all of us at some point in
  112. 4:52our lives have memorized an association
  113. 4:55between that sound and that meaning that
  114. 4:58means that there has to be some
  115. 5:00information stored in the mind that
  116. 5:02captures that Association which in
  117. 5:04simplified form might look something
  118. 5:05like
  119. 5:06this there is a symbol for the word
  120. 5:09itself there is an uh entry for its
  121. 5:12sound duck and then some kind of entry
  122. 5:15for its
  123. 5:16meaning now words simple though they are
  124. 5:20convey a number of
  125. 5:22advantages uh for one because human
  126. 5:24memory is capacious there are a large
  127. 5:26number of Concepts that we can express
  128. 5:28with words it's been estimated that a
  129. 5:30typical high school graduate can uh has
  130. 5:34acquired on the order of 60,000 Words
  131. 5:37which works out to a rate of learning
  132. 5:40words of one every two waking hours
  133. 5:43starting at the age of one also the
  134. 5:46brain is well equipped to produce and
  135. 5:49understand words it takes less than a
  136. 5:50quarter of a second for the brain to uh
  137. 5:53come up with the meaning behind a word
  138. 5:56after hearing it or and also less than a
  139. 5:58quarter of a second uh given the thought
  140. 6:00to recover the information on how to
  141. 6:03pronounce it on the other hand there are
  142. 6:05some disadvantages to words you're stuck
  143. 6:08with a finite number of predetermined
  144. 6:10Concepts those for which your language
  145. 6:13already has uh sound meaning pairings
  146. 6:17and words are slaves to memory everyone
  147. 6:20has to have memorized a word for it to
  148. 6:22be useful if you're the only one who
  149. 6:23knows a word you may as well not know it
  150. 6:25at all that brings me to the second
  151. 6:28trick behind language combinatorial
  152. 6:30grammar what vilhelm Von humble called
  153. 6:33the infinite use of finite media the
  154. 6:36ability
  155. 6:37to uh produce strings of words in which
  156. 6:40the meaning of the string can be
  157. 6:42computed from the meanings of the
  158. 6:44individual words and the way that
  159. 6:46they're combined in order for a speaker
  160. 6:49and a hearer to uh convey information by
  161. 6:53ordering words they both have to share
  162. 6:55some kind of mental algorithm or recipe
  163. 6:58or software that uh captures this
  164. 7:01information and that's what uh linguists
  165. 7:03call a grammar again in simplified form
  166. 7:06a couple of rules of grammar that we use
  167. 7:09to express our thoughts are these a uh
  168. 7:12sentence is composed of a noun phrase in
  169. 7:15English followed by a verb phrase that
  170. 7:17is the subject followed by the predicate
  171. 7:19the verb phrase consists of a verb
  172. 7:21followed by a noun phrase the object
  173. 7:23followed by a uh sentence the compliment
  174. 7:27the power of rules comes from the fact
  175. 7:29that they're built out of symbols so for
  176. 7:31example the verb phrase symbol that's
  177. 7:34the name for the right hand rule is also
  178. 7:38listed in the leftand rule so that uh
  179. 7:41one can be inserted inside the
  180. 7:44other since the words as well bear
  181. 7:47symbols indicating how they can be
  182. 7:49slaughtered into sentences we have a way
  183. 7:52of uh with a finite set of rules of
  184. 7:54generating brand new structures on the
  185. 7:57fly now among the advantages of
  186. 8:00combinatorial grammar are that by
  187. 8:02combining symbols new ideas can be
  188. 8:05expressed there's a cliche in journalism
  189. 8:07that when a dog bites a man that isn't
  190. 8:09news but when a man bites a dog that is
  191. 8:12news the beauty of grammar is that it
  192. 8:14allows us to convey news by rearranging
  193. 8:18words in new
  194. 8:19orders also because grammar is couched
  195. 8:23in abstract symbols like noun and verb
  196. 8:26the same rule that allows us to convey
  197. 8:29uh dog bites man can also allow us to
  198. 8:31convey uh a big bang creates the
  199. 8:34universe or any other combination of
  200. 8:37ideas in any combinatorial system the
  201. 8:40number of combinations grows
  202. 8:42exponentially with the length of the
  203. 8:44sentence so if there are say 10,000
  204. 8:47nouns with which to begin a sentence and
  205. 8:494,000 verbs with which to continue it
  206. 8:52you already have 40 million uh ways of
  207. 8:55beginning a sentence and you're only two
  208. 8:57words into it and the number EXP
  209. 8:59explodes from there the psychologist
  210. 9:01George Miller once estimated that a
  211. 9:04person is capable of producing or
  212. 9:06understanding 100 million trillion
  213. 9:09different sentences 20 words long or
  214. 9:11shorter as uh the late Carl Sean might
  215. 9:14have said billions and billions of
  216. 9:18sentences also there's a sense in which
  217. 9:21the number of thoughts that we can
  218. 9:22express through language is not just
  219. 9:24humongous but it is technically infinite
  220. 9:27thanks to a trick of language called
  221. 9:30recursion recall that a uh sentence can
  222. 9:34contain a verb phrase and a verb phrase
  223. 9:37can contain a sentence that means that
  224. 9:39you can insert a sentence inside a
  225. 9:42sentence and a sentence inside a
  226. 9:43sentence inside a sentence therefore
  227. 9:46generating sentences of any length and
  228. 9:48hence an infinite number of sentences
  229. 9:50there is no longest sentence in
  230. 9:53principle now it turns out that this is
  231. 9:55not a banal uh observation because there
  232. 9:58has been a claim that there is a longest
  233. 10:01sentence in English where would you find
  234. 10:03such a claim well where else the
  235. 10:05Guinness Book of World Records world's
  236. 10:07longest sentence you could look it up
  237. 10:09it's 1,300 words long it comes from a
  238. 10:12novel by William Falkner which should
  239. 10:15come as no surprise to those of you
  240. 10:16who've read the novels of William
  241. 10:18Falkner uh I won't reproduce the
  242. 10:20sentence in its entirety but here's the
  243. 10:22way it begins they both bore it as
  244. 10:24though in deliberate flagellant
  245. 10:26exaltation and it runs on from there
  246. 10:30however I have an announcement to make
  247. 10:32this evening this is not in fact the
  248. 10:34world's longest sentence and I've been
  249. 10:37tempted to attain immortality in
  250. 10:39Guinness by submitting the following
  251. 10:41recordbreaker faler wrote they both
  252. 10:44bored as though in deliberate flatulent
  253. 10:48exaltation but then I realized that this
  254. 10:50would not be immortality after all but
  255. 10:52only the proverbial 15 minutes of fame
  256. 10:55because any one of you could then submit
  257. 10:57Guinness noted that f wrote they both
  258. 10:59bore it Pinker mentioned that Guinness
  259. 11:01noted that Falon wrote who cares that
  260. 11:03Pinker mentioned that Guinness noted
  261. 11:04that Falon wrote dot dot dot well
  262. 11:08grammar is a wonderful thing uh allowing
  263. 11:10us to convey an infinite number of
  264. 11:12Thoughts by rearranging a finite number
  265. 11:14of words are there any disadvantages to
  266. 11:17grammar well in fact there are and
  267. 11:19they're best appreciated by trying to
  268. 11:22imagine what a language would look like
  269. 11:24if it had nothing but grammar no words
  270. 11:28well we don't have to imagine it it's
  271. 11:29been imagined for us because in the uh
  272. 11:3316th and 17th and 18th century there
  273. 11:35were a number of proposals for perfect
  274. 11:38languages that would do away with this
  275. 11:41ugly process of wrote memorizing
  276. 11:45thousands of arbitrary sound meaning
  277. 11:47pairings which were considered an
  278. 11:49affront to Enlightenment sensibilities
  279. 11:52of rational design the most famous is
  280. 11:55the analytical language of John Wilkins
  281. 11:58the subject of a wonderful essay by
  282. 11:59Jorge Luis bores and also of a book by
  283. 12:03Umberto Eko in search of the perfect
  284. 12:05language Wilkins wrote we should by
  285. 12:07learning the names of things be
  286. 12:09instructed likewise in their natures and
  287. 12:12here's in uh brief how a system worked
  288. 12:15Zita in his artificial language meant
  289. 12:18dog but you didn't have to memorize that
  290. 12:21you could deduce it
  291. 12:23because Wilkins divided the universe
  292. 12:26into 40 ontological categories and
  293. 12:29assigned each one of them a sound so Z
  294. 12:32for example stood for animal I for
  295. 12:35quadrip t for rapacious terrestrial
  296. 12:37European canine and then a pinpointed
  297. 12:40the species similarly deba is a portion
  298. 12:44of the first terrestrial element uh AKA
  299. 12:48flame and Koba is consanguinous relation
  300. 12:51of direct ascendant uh to it father now
  301. 12:55needless to say this scheme did not
  302. 12:57catch on and here we are are centuries
  303. 13:00later still memorizing arbitrary words
  304. 13:04every two hours of our waking lives and
  305. 13:07it's easy to see why it didn't catch on
  306. 13:09for one thing you need complex mental
  307. 13:12computation for every word every time
  308. 13:15someone opens his mouth and blurts out a
  309. 13:16word you've got to play a game of 20
  310. 13:18questions to figure out what he's
  311. 13:20talking about and also the combinatorial
  312. 13:23power is overkill for most everyday
  313. 13:26Concepts we generally don't have to talk
  314. 13:28about a portion of a father or a fire
  315. 13:31with four legs and so a scheme that gave
  316. 13:34us the ability to do that is really more
  317. 13:37combinatorial power than we need it
  318. 13:40suggests that the basic design of human
  319. 13:42language tries to take advantage of the
  320. 13:45strengths of both uh tricks we have
  321. 13:48words for common entities for the dogs
  322. 13:52and ducks and men for which the
  323. 13:54psychological mechanism is memory and we
  324. 13:57have grammatical rules for novel
  325. 13:59combinations of entities for men biting
  326. 14:02dogs and big bangs creating universes
  327. 14:05for which the mental mechanism is some
  328. 14:07kind of online
  329. 14:08computation now how would you test an
  330. 14:11idea like this well ideally you should
  331. 14:13find a case in which words and rules
  332. 14:15express the same ideas but would still
  333. 14:18be psychologically and perhaps even
  334. 14:20neurologically
  335. 14:22distinguishable the point of words and
  336. 14:23rules is that we do have such a test
  337. 14:26case they're what we uh remember with
  338. 14:29Dread as regular and irregular forms
  339. 14:32just a little brush up uh regular verbs
  340. 14:35uh are uh verbs like walk walked jog
  341. 14:39jogged kiss kissed words that form their
  342. 14:41past tense in uh predictable ways for
  343. 14:44verb after verb all you have to do is
  344. 14:47add uh Ed and you have the past tense
  345. 14:49form the regular verbs are open-ended
  346. 14:52there are thousands of existing regular
  347. 14:54verbs in English and new ones are being
  348. 14:56added to the language all the time when
  349. 14:59the verb to facts came into common
  350. 15:00parlament about 15 years ago you didn't
  351. 15:03have to run to the dictionary to look up
  352. 15:05its past tense form you could figure out
  353. 15:07that it was faxed likewise when uh we
  354. 15:10first learned spam snarf M mosh and dis
  355. 15:13we knew that the past tenses were
  356. 15:15spammed snarfed munged moshed and
  357. 15:18dissed even uh children can do this if
  358. 15:21you bring a 5-year-old child into a lab
  359. 15:24and say uh here is a man who knows how
  360. 15:26to wug uh the child will easily say
  361. 15:30yesterday he wagged a form that they
  362. 15:32couldn't have memorized as a word
  363. 15:35because the experimenter had made it up
  364. 15:37beforehand but uh proof that children
  365. 15:40can uh extend the pattern to novel verbs
  366. 15:44and there's a sense in which all
  367. 15:46children show off this kind of
  368. 15:48creativity because children go through a
  369. 15:50a stage in which they make errors like
  370. 15:53ComEd and bringed and holded uh which
  371. 15:56they also couldn't have memorized
  372. 15:58directly from their parents but must
  373. 15:59have created in their own minds this
  374. 16:02brings me to the second kind of verb in
  375. 16:04English the irregular
  376. 16:07verbs verbs like bring brought hit hit
  377. 16:10go went Sing sang sleep slept make made
  378. 16:13ring rang fly flu which contrast with
  379. 16:16the regulars in just about every way uh
  380. 16:19in contrast to the monotonous
  381. 16:21predictability of the Irregulars verb
  382. 16:23after verb forming its past tense in the
  383. 16:25same way the Irregulars are quirky and
  384. 16:28ID syncratic the past of syn is sank but
  385. 16:31the past of cling is not clang but clung
  386. 16:34the past of think is neither than nor
  387. 16:36thunk but thought and the past of blink
  388. 16:39is not blank or blunk or blot but is
  389. 16:42regular
  390. 16:43blinked also it's a closed class there
  391. 16:46are about 165 uh irregular verbs in uh
  392. 16:49English and there haven't been any
  393. 16:51recent new ones well this leads to a
  394. 16:53simple theory that irregular forms are
  395. 16:56words that we learn in the same way that
  396. 16:57we learn uh Dog and Duck and man and so
  397. 17:01on uh in this case though one of the
  398. 17:03words that we learn brought is the past
  399. 17:05tense of another one and so that the two
  400. 17:07are connected but are otherwise separate
  401. 17:10entries in memory corresponding to
  402. 17:12separate words regular forms on the
  403. 17:14other hand don't have to be stored
  404. 17:16because they can be generated whenever
  405. 17:18you need them by a rule a rule exactly
  406. 17:22analogous to the ones that form
  407. 17:24sentences out of subjects and predicates
  408. 17:26and so on also their interaction is
  409. 17:28straightforward if a word can provide
  410. 17:30its own past tense form for memory the
  411. 17:32rule is blocked that's why we adults
  412. 17:34don't say things like bringed and hold
  413. 17:36it and go elsewhere or by default the
  414. 17:39rule applies that's why both children
  415. 17:42and adults uh can create a past tense
  416. 17:47form even if they don't have one in
  417. 17:48memory and that's how come we can say
  418. 17:50things like wagged and faxed and spammed
  419. 17:52and mosed and dissed well I could end
  420. 17:55the talk here and words and rules would
  421. 17:58end after chapter 1 uh were it not for a
  422. 18:01complication to this neat dichotomy and
  423. 18:04that is that the irregular verbs are
  424. 18:06shot through with patterns you find
  425. 18:08families of similar words like keep kept
  426. 18:11sleep slept feel felt dream dreamt wear
  427. 18:14War bear bore tear tour swear swore
  428. 18:16string strung swing swung sting stung
  429. 18:18fling
  430. 18:19flung also these patterns are not just
  431. 18:23inert redundancies in memory but they
  432. 18:26are occasionally generalized by Flesh
  433. 18:28and Blood uh speakers of the language
  434. 18:31every once in a while children will come
  435. 18:34out with an error like brang as the past
  436. 18:36of bring or uh bite boat wipe in the
  437. 18:40history of the language every once in a
  438. 18:43while one of these Innovative forms will
  439. 18:44gain a tow hold and uh stay in the
  440. 18:47language thereafter quit and caught for
  441. 18:50example are only a couple of hundred
  442. 18:52years old Jane Austin used quitted and
  443. 18:55George Washington wrote catched and uh
  444. 18:57the most recent irregular snuck sneaked
  445. 19:00into the language only about a 100 years
  446. 19:02ago and is now pretty unexceptionable
  447. 19:06among people under the age of 40 uh but
  448. 19:08uh still sounds uh weird and new to
  449. 19:11people over the age of
  450. 19:1440 this is especially obvious when you
  451. 19:16compare dialects of English which have
  452. 19:18uh preserved their separate patterns of
  453. 19:20Innovations in various rural American
  454. 19:23and British dialects you find forms like
  455. 19:25climb Clum uh drag drug or one that was
  456. 19:28used by President Clinton a couple of
  457. 19:30months ago he swole up and
  458. 19:33died and um honest he really said it uh
  459. 19:38and as a psychologist I've been trained
  460. 19:40not to accept anything as a fact until
  461. 19:42it's been tested in the lab on either
  462. 19:44rats or sophomores now to to my
  463. 19:48knowledge no one has studied irregular
  464. 19:49verbs in rats but if you bring
  465. 19:51sophomores into the lab and you say what
  466. 19:53is the past tense of to spling then
  467. 19:56about 80% of them will say Spang or or
  468. 19:58spung now this process was brought to a
  469. 20:01high art by the linguist and uh baseball
  470. 20:04pitcher and radio announcer Dizzy Dean
  471. 20:07who once uh gave the following play
  472. 20:09byplay the pitcher wound up and flang
  473. 20:12the ball at the batter the batter Swang
  474. 20:14and missed the pitcher flanged the ball
  475. 20:17again and this time the batter connected
  476. 20:18he hit a high fly right to the center
  477. 20:20fielder the center fielder was all set
  478. 20:22to catch the ball but at the last minute
  479. 20:24his eyes were blowned by the Sun and he
  480. 20:26dropped
  481. 20:27it
  482. 20:28so how do we account for the Dizzy Dean
  483. 20:31that's present in all of us well there
  484. 20:33have been two alternative theories Each
  485. 20:36of which tries to take one of these two
  486. 20:39tricks words or rules and stretch it to
  487. 20:42account for the other uh phenomenon
  488. 20:45according to the theory of generative
  489. 20:47phenology from the linguists Noom
  490. 20:49Chomsky and Morris Holly rules rule not
  491. 20:53only do you have a rule for the regular
  492. 20:55past tense aded but there is a family of
  493. 20:58rules that fiddle with vowels and
  494. 21:00consonants such as changing an i to a
  495. 21:03for cling
  496. 21:05clung
  497. 21:06the problem with the theory is how you
  498. 21:09target the right verbs how do you get
  499. 21:12the say an rule to apply to string sting
  500. 21:15and fling but not to apply to wish
  501. 21:19giving wash or FIB giving fub or fish
  502. 21:22giving fush and so on there are two ways
  503. 21:25in which you might do it and both of
  504. 21:26them are problematic you could stipulate
  505. 21:29them in a list which is what uh Chomsky
  506. 21:31and Holly did say that the rule changing
  507. 21:33it a applies to these 17 verbs in these
  508. 21:3717 verbs alone but then it's a an
  509. 21:40unexplained coincidence why the words in
  510. 21:43the list are so similar why you have
  511. 21:45string and sting and fling and not say
  512. 21:48FIB or uh wish on the other hand if you
  513. 21:51try to find the common pattern distill
  514. 21:54it out and append it as a condition to
  515. 21:56the rule such as
  516. 21:58consonant consonant the I vowel and then
  517. 22:01the um NG or sound the V or nasal it
  518. 22:05doesn't work it fail makes mistakes both
  519. 22:08of omission and commission it falsely
  520. 22:11includes bring whose past is not uh
  521. 22:13brung but brought and spring whose past
  522. 22:15is not sprung but sprang and it excludes
  523. 22:19stick which should be in because its
  524. 22:21past is stuck but doesn't uh fit the
  525. 22:24pattern with the sound at the end and
  526. 22:26also fails to include spin which really
  527. 22:29ought to be in there but also misses the
  528. 22:31condition of the rule by a whisker well
  529. 22:34this leads to something completely
  530. 22:36different the theory of artificial
  531. 22:38neural networks or connectionism uh
  532. 22:41proposed by David rumelhart and James
  533. 22:43mcland and 25 successor models According
  534. 22:46to which there are no rules they're just
  535. 22:49analogies from memory if you beef up
  536. 22:52memory in a certain way in particular in
  537. 22:55a pattern associator memory a kind of
  538. 22:58neural network you link sounds to sounds
  539. 23:01instead of linking words to words so in
  540. 23:04this kind of memory you've got a set of
  541. 23:07uh units Each of which stands for a bit
  542. 23:10of sound in the verb another set of
  543. 23:12units Each of which stands for a bit of
  544. 23:14sound in the past tense form every input
  545. 23:17is connected to every output the memory
  546. 23:19is trained by giving it walk walked and
  547. 23:22bring brought and Sing sang and play
  548. 23:25played and so on it forms associations
  549. 23:27between between sounds in the verb and
  550. 23:29sounds in its past tense such as in to
  551. 23:32Ang or o to O it superimposes these
  552. 23:36patterns across different verbs and
  553. 23:38therefore it can generalize to new verbs
  554. 23:41be if they overlap in sound with old
  555. 23:44verbs the reason that it does that is
  556. 23:46that similar words literally share
  557. 23:49representational real estate so anything
  558. 23:51connected to a sound from one word is
  559. 23:53automatically connected to that same
  560. 23:55sound for all similar words
  561. 23:58the problem with this theory is
  562. 24:00generalizing
  563. 24:02properly pattern associators generalize
  564. 24:04to new words that are similar to Old
  565. 24:06words and that that works pretty well
  566. 24:08for irregular patterns where people do
  567. 24:10the same thing both people and a pattern
  568. 24:13associator will Having learned that the
  569. 24:15past of cling is clung will generalize
  570. 24:18that the past of spling is spung it also
  571. 24:21works for the regular pattern if the new
  572. 24:24word is similar to Old regular verbs so
  573. 24:27for example if you um test people and a
  574. 24:31pattern Associated Mo model on a novel
  575. 24:33verb like tolip well that sounds a lot
  576. 24:36like clip flip trip slip strip nip Whip
  577. 24:39and so on and so the model like people
  578. 24:42can generalize to clipped the problem is
  579. 24:45it doesn't work with new words that are
  580. 24:47not similar to Old words such as to
  581. 24:49plump which doesn't rhyme with anything
  582. 24:51in English in fact it's kind of violates
  583. 24:54the sound pattern of English here though
  584. 24:56people can generalize the regular
  585. 24:58pattern to any new verb regardless of
  586. 25:00its sound but pattern associators can't
  587. 25:03do it if you compare them you find for
  588. 25:05example that people will say the past of
  589. 25:07plump is plumped but the best that the
  590. 25:09model could come up with was bro
  591. 25:11likewise uh people say trilled the model
  592. 25:14comes up with tree LT people uh say
  593. 25:17smeed the model came up with Leaf log
  594. 25:20people come up with friled the model
  595. 25:22came up with freezel uh and the reason
  596. 25:24is instructive that the a pattern of
  597. 25:27associator memory lacks the simple
  598. 25:29computational device known as a symbol
  599. 25:32or a variable like an x in algebra or
  600. 25:35verb in grammar it doesn't have
  601. 25:38something that can embrace all verbs
  602. 25:40regardless of its sound but instead it
  603. 25:42forms associations to the individual
  604. 25:44sounds if a new verb comes along that
  605. 25:47doesn't share any sounds with the ones
  606. 25:49in the training set the best that the
  607. 25:51model can do is cough up a hairball of
  608. 25:53bits and pieces that are the closest
  609. 25:55things it's Associated to the sounds
  610. 25:57that that are in the new uh word well
  611. 26:00this leads to a um modification of the
  612. 26:03words and rules theory that takes into
  613. 26:06account what these two systems are good
  614. 26:08and bad at um I will continue to argue
  615. 26:11that Irregulars are words stored in
  616. 26:13memory but here's the twist that memory
  617. 26:16is not a list of slots that's just not
  618. 26:18the way human memory works but is partly
  619. 26:21associative much like a artificial
  620. 26:24neural network pattern associator memory
  621. 26:27namely we connect sounds to sounds as
  622. 26:30well as words to words and that explains
  623. 26:33why people generalize irregular patterns
  624. 26:35to similar words as in Dizzy Dean and
  625. 26:38spling
  626. 26:39spung on the other hand I'll also argue
  627. 26:41that we still need a rule for the
  628. 26:43regulars and that explains how people
  629. 26:45can generalize the regular pattern to
  630. 26:47any word whether it's similar or
  631. 26:49dissimilar familiar or
  632. 26:51unfamiliar the prediction is that people
  633. 26:54uh can apply the regular pattern
  634. 26:56whenever memory fail fails for any
  635. 26:58reason that memory fails and this simple
  636. 27:00prediction helps to explain a wide
  637. 27:03variety of facts about language and
  638. 27:06people such as where regular and
  639. 27:08irregular forms came from the logic
  640. 27:11behind apparent grammatical quirks the
  641. 27:13use and misuse of Rules by children
  642. 27:16where language resides in the brain and
  643. 27:18how and why languages differ let me
  644. 27:21begin with where regular forms come from
  645. 27:24um a lot of information can be found
  646. 27:26simply in these statistical structure of
  647. 27:28the English language as we find it today
  648. 27:31um here's a top 10 list top 10 verbs in
  649. 27:35English in order of frequency that is
  650. 27:37number of occurrences in a million words
  651. 27:39of text B have do say make go take come
  652. 27:47see get notice that all 10 of these are
  653. 27:51irregular B was have had do did say said
  654. 27:54make made go went take took come came
  655. 27:56seesaw get got
  656. 27:58now there can't be a bottom 10 list uh
  657. 28:00for a frequency in the language because
  658. 28:03there's a 788 way tie for last place
  659. 28:07last place being one in a million which
  660. 28:09is the lowest frequency that you can
  661. 28:11measure in a million word Corpus but
  662. 28:13I'll give you the first 10 words from
  663. 28:15that list in alphabetical order here
  664. 28:18they are aate abbreviate aore ablate a
  665. 28:21bridge abgate a climatize acculturate ad
  666. 28:25miix adulterate notice that all 10 are
  667. 28:28regular Abate abated abbreviate
  668. 28:30abbreviated abore abort and so on
  669. 28:33there's a massive correlation in English
  670. 28:35and all other languages between
  671. 28:37frequency and irregularity the irregular
  672. 28:40words are the most commonly used and
  673. 28:42there's a simple explanation irregular
  674. 28:45forms depend on memory because they're
  675. 28:47idiosyncratic and have to be
  676. 28:48individually learned memory depends on
  677. 28:51frequency the more often you hear
  678. 28:53something the easier it is to remember
  679. 28:55if a word declines in popular ity uh it
  680. 28:58may not be uniformly memorized by a
  681. 29:01generation of children uh when it when
  682. 29:04the they aren't uniformly memorized the
  683. 29:06speakers will default to the regular Ed
  684. 29:08converting a verb from irregular to
  685. 29:10regular for them and for all subsequent
  686. 29:14generations and in fact we can see this
  687. 29:16in the history of the language in Old
  688. 29:18English and Middle English there were
  689. 29:20about twice as many irregular verbs as
  690. 29:22we find today if Cher were here right
  691. 29:25now for example he would tell you that
  692. 29:27the past of to cleave is clove likewise
  693. 29:30abide Abode chai chid cow crew gripe
  694. 29:34grope R Ro uh and so on the common ones
  695. 29:38in Cher's time have stayed irregular to
  696. 29:40the present day the rarer ones have
  697. 29:43defected to the regular side you can
  698. 29:46even feel that force of History acting
  699. 29:48today because the remaining infrequent
  700. 29:51Irregulars are already starting to sound
  701. 29:53a bit strange as if they're slipping out
  702. 29:55of the language complete this sequence
  703. 29:58for example I stride I stroe I
  704. 30:01have STD uh I guess STD but it doesn't
  705. 30:05sound completely natural similarly Smite
  706. 30:08SM slay slooh bid bade forsake forsook
  707. 30:12have a kind of stilted or uh stuffy or
  708. 30:15rusher sha feel to them something that
  709. 30:17you recognize from writing but that you
  710. 30:19wouldn't use in everyday conversation
  711. 30:22and you can predict that in a 100 years
  712. 30:24these will have gone the way of uh abode
  713. 30:27and roow and clove and so on in contrast
  714. 30:31low frequency regulars always sound fine
  715. 30:34if I ask you to complete this sequence I
  716. 30:36abgate I abgate I have abreg there's no
  717. 30:40problem uh because even though the
  718. 30:43frequency of abreg is the same as the
  719. 30:45frequency of Strode and
  720. 30:48slooh now you might say um okay well
  721. 30:51granted uh I don't use smote all the
  722. 30:54time but it's not as if I use the verb
  723. 30:56to Smite in uh every conversation either
  724. 30:59but the theory predicts that an
  725. 31:00irregular can be um an infrequent
  726. 31:03irregular can sound strange even when
  727. 31:05the verb itself is familiar which is
  728. 31:08what you would expect if in an irregular
  729. 31:10the verb and its past tense form are
  730. 31:13separate entries in memory one of which
  731. 31:15can be strong while the other one is
  732. 31:17weak take for example the the verb to
  733. 31:20forego which is reasonably uh common
  734. 31:24especially in sarcastic expressions like
  735. 31:26uh to for go the pleasure of as in the
  736. 31:28following sentence you'll excuse me if I
  737. 31:31forgo the pleasure of watching the video
  738. 31:32of your wife giving
  739. 31:34birth and now if you take this
  740. 31:36expression and you force it into the
  741. 31:38past tense you get last night I for went
  742. 31:41the pleasure of watching herbs vacation
  743. 31:43slides which is rather peculiar
  744. 31:46similarly It's Perfectly Natural to say
  745. 31:48I don't know how she bears that guy but
  746. 31:51I don't know how she bore that guy is
  747. 31:53almost
  748. 31:55unintelligible you might say I dig the
  749. 31:57doors man but you probably wouldn't say
  750. 31:59in the 60s your mother and I dug the
  751. 32:01doors son uh and here's an example that
  752. 32:04I recently clipped out of the newspaper
  753. 32:06from the comic strip called zits there
  754. 32:08two teenagers one says to the other this
  755. 32:10week totally bit bit okay this week
  756. 32:15bited that can't be right either this
  757. 32:17week has totally bitten almost not quite
  758. 32:21back on Monday I didn't know this week
  759. 32:23was going to bite so bad I hate
  760. 32:25conjugating irregular vulgarity
  761. 32:29note however that there's no problem
  762. 32:31conjugating regular vulgarities if the
  763. 32:33teenager said this week totally sucked
  764. 32:36then there would be no comic strip
  765. 32:38because there's no problem with the past
  766. 32:39tense form and the straightforward uh oh
  767. 32:43and um likewise if you choose other
  768. 32:46regular verbs that are common in the
  769. 32:49present tense but rare in the past tense
  770. 32:52um they're still perfectly fine I don't
  771. 32:53know how she copes with him I don't know
  772. 32:55how she coped with him no no problem she
  773. 32:58doesn't suffer fools gladly a uh cliche
  774. 33:01or an idiom none of them ever suffered
  775. 33:03fools gladly uh no problem again the
  776. 33:06explanation is that with irregular forms
  777. 33:08you've got two different entries in
  778. 33:10memory which can part company in terms
  779. 33:12of their familiarity one of them can be
  780. 33:15strong while the other one is faint
  781. 33:18whereas for an irregular you don't have
  782. 33:20to store a separate past tense form you
  783. 33:22just create it whenever you need it and
  784. 33:24so the past tense form inherits whatever
  785. 33:26sense of familiarity or unfamiliarity
  786. 33:30had accured to the verb itself well
  787. 33:33that's if that's a an explanation of how
  788. 33:35we tend to get regulars where do the
  789. 33:37Irregulars come from the general answer
  790. 33:40is that irregular forms are the fossils
  791. 33:42of dead rules Now by symmetrical logic
  792. 33:46if uh irregular forms depend on memory
  793. 33:50and are uh vulnerable in those
  794. 33:52circumstances in which memory is fragile
  795. 33:55then if regular forms depend on rule on
  796. 33:57a rule they should be vulnerable
  797. 33:59whenever a rule is fragile and a rule
  798. 34:02can be fragile when they it becomes too
  799. 34:05complicated or obscure for a generation
  800. 34:07of children to figure out um and indeed
  801. 34:10most of our irregular vowel change
  802. 34:13patterns come from rules that were
  803. 34:15active in the minds of people who lived
  804. 34:175,500 years ago the uh Proto
  805. 34:21indo-europeans For Whom the past tense
  806. 34:23of s was uh s giving us sink sign today
  807. 34:27and likewise bear bore was a rule
  808. 34:30governed form in their language and now
  809. 34:32is memorized uh today well what causes
  810. 34:36such a transition why would a perfectly
  811. 34:38good rule die out let me give you an
  812. 34:40illustration from a more recent case and
  813. 34:42one that's a little bit easier to follow
  814. 34:45um in the Middle English period uh the
  815. 34:49past tense rule was alive and well but
  816. 34:51you got to keep in mind that in those
  817. 34:53days people were into phonetic spelling
  818. 34:55and the spelling of English words
  819. 34:57reflected their pronunciation much more
  820. 34:59than it does today so ke P was actually
  821. 35:03pronounced uh Cape with a long a sound
  822. 35:06uh and the rule that added Ed it was
  823. 35:09then spelled with a t but it's the same
  824. 35:11rule that we have today there was a
  825. 35:13second rule in the language a rule that
  826. 35:15would shorten the vowel whenever you
  827. 35:18glommed on some extra stuff at the end
  828. 35:20of a syllable so caped would then get
  829. 35:23shortened to kept there this is a common
  830. 35:26kind of rule in languages because a
  831. 35:28syllable is a unit of timing in speech
  832. 35:31if you add a whole bunch of extra junk
  833. 35:33to the end of a syllable you tend to
  834. 35:35shrink or compress the vowel to keep the
  835. 35:38syllable within one tick of the speech
  836. 35:41metronome and that's why we have
  837. 35:43families of forms generated by these old
  838. 35:45rules like sleep slept creep crept feel
  839. 35:47felt and mean meant and it applied
  840. 35:49across the language and that's why we
  841. 35:51have forms like sheep Shepherd Christ
  842. 35:53Christmas deep depth at 55 and so on but
  843. 35:57then something happened in the 15th
  844. 35:59century in a revolution called the Great
  845. 36:02Vowel Shift people started to scramble
  846. 36:04their pronunciation of the long vowels
  847. 36:07what used to be pronounced a was now e
  848. 36:10what used to be e was now I and so on
  849. 36:13the result was that two forms that used
  850. 36:15to be perfectly obviously related kep
  851. 36:19and kept no longer were related but had
  852. 36:22qualitatively different vowels e and e
  853. 36:27uh the shortening rule died because
  854. 36:29children could no longer figure out how
  855. 36:30to derive one from the other because now
  856. 36:32they were completely different in kind
  857. 36:35and how we know that is that new words
  858. 36:37that entered the language after the
  859. 36:39Great Vowel Shift no longer underwent
  860. 36:41shortening rule we have perfectly
  861. 36:44regular forms like peep peeped from 1460
  862. 36:47seep seeped from 1790 leaving at behind
  863. 36:51as fossils all of these forms that
  864. 36:53formerly were generated in a predictable
  865. 36:56Way by rule
  866. 36:58well this leads to a more general
  867. 36:59question of the nature of language which
  868. 37:02is why irregular words sometimes show up
  869. 37:05with regular forms a uh puzzle that has
  870. 37:08long preoccupied the various language
  871. 37:11mavens uh word Watchers verb ofor uh
  872. 37:15guardians of proper style and so on for
  873. 37:18example you might say all my daughter's
  874. 37:20friends are low lives you wouldn't say
  875. 37:23all my daughter's friends are low lives
  876. 37:25even though the ordinary irregular
  877. 37:27plural of life is lives one might say
  878. 37:30I'm sick of dealing with all the Mickey
  879. 37:31Mouses in this organization not the
  880. 37:34Mickey
  881. 37:35mice um in the 20 years since the Sony
  882. 37:38Walkman uh was introduced no one really
  883. 37:42feels comfortable uh with the plural
  884. 37:44Walkman and uh some people like the
  885. 37:46owner of this Electronics shop actually
  886. 37:49bent the regular plural Walkman into the
  887. 37:51tubing of a neon sign let me give you
  888. 37:55one other example of this class of
  889. 37:56puzzles that's illustrated by two little
  890. 37:59Leaguers who have a lot of time on their
  891. 38:01hands as they're sitting on the bench
  892. 38:03why is home plate called that when it
  893. 38:05doesn't even resemble a plate why do
  894. 38:07they call it a strike when you've
  895. 38:09actually missed the ball and haven't hit
  896. 38:10anything at all plus why does a baseball
  897. 38:13manager wear a uniform when he never
  898. 38:15plays and why do they say a batter flyed
  899. 38:18out instead of flew out indeed no mere
  900. 38:21mortal has ever flown out to center
  901. 38:25field well
  902. 38:27the first thing that this phenomenon
  903. 38:29shows is that sound alone can't be the
  904. 38:32input to the inflection process because
  905. 38:35the same sound can go in one end of the
  906. 38:37Box such as fly and come out the other
  907. 38:40other end of the Box either as flyed or
  908. 38:43flew depending on some extra input and
  909. 38:46the question is what is that extra input
  910. 38:50the most popular theory is the extra
  911. 38:52input is meaning that the problem with
  912. 38:54low life and Mickey Mouse and Walkman
  913. 38:57and fly fly out is that you've stretched
  914. 39:00the original meaning of a word and when
  915. 39:02you do you weaken the associations to
  916. 39:05any irregular form stored in memory and
  917. 39:07you switch over to the
  918. 39:09regular the um problem with a theory is
  919. 39:13that
  920. 39:14um not to put too fine a point on it but
  921. 39:17that it's wrong that 99% of the time in
  922. 39:21which you stretch a word's meaning The
  923. 39:24Irregular form comes along unscathed bed
  924. 39:27for example in metaphors uh where you
  925. 39:30obviously by definition stretch the
  926. 39:31meaning of a word you never by making a
  927. 39:35metaphor alone lose an irregular man men
  928. 39:38chess man Chessmen not chess man's
  929. 39:42similarly Straw Men snowmen saw teeth
  930. 39:45God's children and so on in idioms uh
  931. 39:48say to catch a cold is a considerable
  932. 39:50stretch of meaning from the ordinary
  933. 39:52sense of the word catch but nonetheless
  934. 39:54the past tense is not catch to cold but
  935. 39:56caught a cold despite that tenuous
  936. 39:58threat of meaning similarly we get cut a
  937. 40:01deal not cut it a deal took a leak
  938. 40:03bought the farm hit the fan blew them
  939. 40:04off came off well put out went nuts got
  940. 40:07a life had a cow literally hundreds and
  941. 40:09hundreds of them all of which are
  942. 40:11perfectly happy to bring their irregular
  943. 40:14form along the a better theory is that
  944. 40:17the missing input is grammatical
  945. 40:19structure now what does that mean well
  946. 40:21remember that the point of grammar is to
  947. 40:23allow people to compute the properties
  948. 40:25of a new word from the properties of old
  949. 40:27words in the way that they're arranged
  950. 40:30the problem with regularized Irregulars
  951. 40:32is that they have to opt out of this
  952. 40:34scheme they have a structure that
  953. 40:36doesn't allow information about an old
  954. 40:38word in memory to apply to the new word
  955. 40:41let me uh now explain what I meant by
  956. 40:44that here's how we ordinarily build
  957. 40:46words according to grammatical
  958. 40:48Rules start off for example with the uh
  959. 40:51ordinary verb uh to eat with its uh
  960. 40:55sound its meaning and its irregular past
  961. 40:58tense form We join it with a prefix over
  962. 41:01to get a new word overeat and the
  963. 41:03question is how do we know how to use
  964. 41:05the word overeat or in the notation what
  965. 41:08do we put up here in this slot based on
  966. 41:11everything that goes down here well the
  967. 41:13answer is easy
  968. 41:15the properties of the new word come from
  969. 41:18the properties of a special entity
  970. 41:21called the head which is the rightmost
  971. 41:24uh morphe inside the word and the
  972. 41:28information stored with the rightmost
  973. 41:30word percolates up along this pathway
  974. 41:32and it applies to the word as a whole so
  975. 41:35for example what is the part of speech
  976. 41:37of overeat what kind of word is it well
  977. 41:39it's a verb because eat is a verb and
  978. 41:41that information floats upstairs what's
  979. 41:44the meaning of overeat it's a kind of
  980. 41:46eating eating too much because the
  981. 41:48meaning of eat is e finally what's the
  982. 41:52past tense of ovat it's over eight
  983. 41:55because the past tense of eat is eight
  984. 41:57and that information percolates uh
  985. 41:59upwards let me walk you through another
  986. 42:01example start out with the ordinary noun
  987. 42:04uh man with its sound its meaning and
  988. 42:06its irregular plural men join it to the
  989. 42:09verb work to form a new word Workman how
  990. 42:12do we know how to use the word uh
  991. 42:14Workman well we get the information from
  992. 42:17the rightmost word inside it the head
  993. 42:19man and it transfers upstairs along the
  994. 42:22right hand Edge so a Workman is a noun
  995. 42:25because man is a noun the meaning of
  996. 42:28workman is a kind of man a man who works
  997. 42:32because the meaning of Manan is man and
  998. 42:34the plural of workman is workmen because
  999. 42:37the plural of man is men and that
  1000. 42:39information uh gets transferred
  1001. 42:42upstairs but some words can't be allowed
  1002. 42:45to get their properties from their
  1003. 42:47rightmost element if they're going to
  1004. 42:48work the way the speaker wants them to
  1005. 42:50work the usual pathway has to be blocked
  1006. 42:55when it is blocked
  1007. 42:57the any irregular form is trapped in
  1008. 43:00memory and can't be passed upstairs to
  1009. 43:03the whole word the regular rule steps in
  1010. 43:06as the default okay and this explains
  1011. 43:09all of the funny examples that I've
  1012. 43:11mentioned so far plus many others let's
  1013. 43:14start out with low lives the thing about
  1014. 43:16low life is that
  1015. 43:18it's not a kind of life the way a
  1016. 43:22Workman is a kind of man or overeating
  1017. 43:24is a kind of eating a low life is a kind
  1018. 43:27of person namely a person who has or
  1019. 43:30leads a low life so when you form it
  1020. 43:34start out with the ordinary noun life
  1021. 43:36join it to the adjective low to form low
  1022. 43:38life how do you know how to use it well
  1023. 43:41you can't apply the usual mechanism
  1024. 43:44because then a low life would be a kind
  1025. 43:46of life which is not what you want it to
  1026. 43:47mean so you have to erect a barrier the
  1027. 43:50irregular plural stored in memory with
  1028. 43:53life has no way of bubbling up to the
  1029. 43:56uh topmost node and so you default to
  1030. 43:59the uh regular and you get low lives
  1031. 44:01instead of low lives and that happens
  1032. 44:04whenever you have a compound that works
  1033. 44:06in this way a still life for example is
  1034. 44:08also not a kind of life but a kind of
  1035. 44:10painting and that's why we say still
  1036. 44:12lives not still lives sabertooths not a
  1037. 44:15kind of tooth but a kind of cat flat
  1038. 44:19foot not a kind of foot but a h slang
  1039. 44:21term for a policeman hence uh plural
  1040. 44:24flat foots and that explains uh the
  1041. 44:27Walkman uh which is not a kind of man in
  1042. 44:30the way that a Workman is a kind of man
  1043. 44:33incidentally the Sony Corporation has an
  1044. 44:35official answer to the question of
  1045. 44:36what's the correct plural of wman the
  1046. 44:39answer is wman brand personal stereos uh
  1047. 44:42in the interests of trademark protection
  1048. 44:44they don't want the term to be uh
  1049. 44:46pluralized uh which would imply that
  1050. 44:48it's generic and hence usable by
  1051. 44:51competitors um now Mickey Mouse is uh
  1052. 44:55also has to opt out of the usual scheme
  1053. 44:57because it's a noun based on a name or
  1054. 45:00an eponym start out with the English
  1055. 45:02word for mus musculus namely Mouse Walt
  1056. 45:05Disney turned that noun into a name by
  1057. 45:08concatenating it with the name Mickey
  1058. 45:10then an ordinary slang that got
  1059. 45:13converted back into a noun but this time
  1060. 45:15a noun that refers to a fool or a
  1061. 45:18simpleton uh the that means that the
  1062. 45:20usual pathway has to be blocked once
  1063. 45:23when Walt Disney turned a noun into a
  1064. 45:25name because ordinarily nouns give rise
  1065. 45:27to new nouns not to something completely
  1066. 45:30different like a name and again it had
  1067. 45:32to be erected when in ordinary slang the
  1068. 45:35name was converted back into a noun
  1069. 45:37because ordinarily new names uh old
  1070. 45:39names give you new names with the
  1071. 45:42pathway block there's no way for the
  1072. 45:44irregular plural mice to travel upward
  1073. 45:47and hence you default to the regular and
  1074. 45:50get Mickey Mouses again this is quite
  1075. 45:52General whenever you pluralize a name in
  1076. 45:54Toronto a uh hockey player is called a
  1077. 45:57maple leaf and when six of them skate
  1078. 45:59onto the ice they are the Maple Leafs
  1079. 46:01not the Maple Leaves Rena used to export
  1080. 46:05a car called the elf and a bunch of them
  1081. 46:07in a lot was not a horde of elves but a
  1082. 46:10bunch of elves you might say Michael
  1083. 46:12Keaton starred in the first two uh
  1084. 46:14Batmans not the first two
  1085. 46:16Batman and you might say we're having
  1086. 46:19Julia Child and her husband over for
  1087. 46:21dinner you know the Childs are really
  1088. 46:23great Cooks not the children are really
  1089. 46:25grape
  1090. 46:27cooks and finally we get to flying out
  1091. 46:30where here the principle is uh well
  1092. 46:33explained in the following dialogue
  1093. 46:35between uh Calvin and his toy tiger
  1094. 46:38Hobbs uh Calvin says I like to verb
  1095. 46:41words what I take nouns and adjectives
  1096. 46:45and use them as verbs remember when
  1097. 46:47access was a thing now it's something
  1098. 46:49you do it got verbed verbing weirds
  1099. 46:52language maybe we can event eventually
  1100. 46:55make language a complete impediment to
  1101. 46:58understanding now in fact verbing uh
  1102. 47:00doesn't make language a complete
  1103. 47:02impediment to understanding but follows
  1104. 47:04the scheme I've explained uh perfectly
  1105. 47:06um the thing about flying uh out in
  1106. 47:09baseball is that it means to hit a fly
  1107. 47:12it's a verb that comes from a noun start
  1108. 47:15out with the regular verb fly to slip
  1109. 47:18the sirly bonds of Earth and dance the
  1110. 47:20sky on laughter silvered Wings in
  1111. 47:22baseball that c converted into a noun a
  1112. 47:25fly as in a Fly ball or a pop fly
  1113. 47:28meaning a ball hit on a uh conspicuously
  1114. 47:32parabolic trajectory that got converted
  1115. 47:35back into a verb to make an out by
  1116. 47:37hitting a fly and so we have a verb from
  1117. 47:40a noun from a verb the ordinary pathway
  1118. 47:43has to be blocked had to have been
  1119. 47:45blocked when a fly was created because
  1120. 47:48ordinary ver ordinarily verbs give rise
  1121. 47:50to verbs not nouns had to be blocked a
  1122. 47:52second time when the noun got converted
  1123. 47:54back into a verb because ordinarily
  1124. 47:56nouns be nouns that means that flu and
  1125. 48:00flown are trapped here in memory and
  1126. 48:02have no way of percolating up and
  1127. 48:04speakers default to the regular giving
  1128. 48:07flly again that happens whenever you
  1129. 48:09have a verb from a noun if Us in hockey
  1130. 48:13someone uh decapitates an opposing
  1131. 48:15player and is sent to the Penalty Box
  1132. 48:17for 2 minutes for high sticking then we
  1133. 48:20say that he High sticked the goalie not
  1134. 48:22that he High stuck him because it comes
  1135. 48:24from the noun a stick you'd say Ventura
  1136. 48:26Grand standed to the audience played to
  1137. 48:29the grandstand a noun not Grand stood
  1138. 48:31and Powell ringed the city with
  1139. 48:33artillery not rang or rung because this
  1140. 48:36version of the verb uh to ring means to
  1141. 48:38form a ring around again a noun has been
  1142. 48:41verbed to give rise to it let me turn
  1143. 48:45now to Childhood and to the phenomenon
  1144. 48:46that I mentioned way at the beginning of
  1145. 48:48the talk that's Illustrated in the
  1146. 48:49following cartoon mommy dolly hitted me
  1147. 48:53Dolly hit me you too boy she's in
  1148. 48:56trouble uh this is the phenomenon of
  1149. 48:59children
  1150. 49:00overgeneralizing uh the Ed to forms that
  1151. 49:03don't ordinarily take it to produce
  1152. 49:05errors such as we holded the baby
  1153. 49:07rabbits the alligator go klunk Horton
  1154. 49:10here to who or my brother got sick and
  1155. 49:13puked
  1156. 49:14it now I think there's a simple
  1157. 49:16explanation that children's memory
  1158. 49:18retrieval is less reliable than adults
  1159. 49:21not because children have a bad memory
  1160. 49:23but because they haven't lived as long
  1161. 49:25that's what being a child means if
  1162. 49:28you're only 3 years old you haven't
  1163. 49:29heard forms like uh hold held and come
  1164. 49:32came as often as an adult in cases of
  1165. 49:35where the child fails to retrieve an
  1166. 49:37irregular because it's uncommon and the
  1167. 49:40child has the rule the child applies the
  1168. 49:42rule to The Irregular to fill the Gap
  1169. 49:45resulting in an error like here or go
  1170. 49:48what's the evidence well the evidence
  1171. 49:51that weak memory is a factor comes from
  1172. 49:53the discovery uh made by Gary Mar
  1173. 49:56and uh uh myself that the less often a
  1174. 49:59parent uses an irregular form the more
  1175. 50:01often the child will make an error on it
  1176. 50:03this was true of all 19 of the children
  1177. 50:06that We examined evidence that the uh
  1178. 50:09rule has been acquired and that that's a
  1179. 50:11crucial factor is comes from the fact
  1180. 50:14long known in child psychology that
  1181. 50:16errors with the irregular forms don't
  1182. 50:18appear right away that children go
  1183. 50:20through a phase in which they don't
  1184. 50:23produce these errors uh before they pop
  1185. 50:25out with their first one here's an
  1186. 50:27example from uh one boy where we have
  1187. 50:30plotted the percent of irregular past
  1188. 50:33tense forms that are correct that is
  1189. 50:35what proportion are uh heard and came
  1190. 50:38and went as opposed to heared and ComEd
  1191. 50:40and goed each dot is a month and for
  1192. 50:43eight months in a row this boy never
  1193. 50:45produced an error before he came out
  1194. 50:47with his first one shortly shortly
  1195. 50:49before his third birthday at which point
  1196. 50:51he continued to make them at a rate of
  1197. 50:53about 5% for several years uh afterward
  1198. 50:56well what happened at this point here
  1199. 50:58why does a child wake up one morning and
  1200. 51:00start to say uh Horton here to who um
  1201. 51:03the answer comes from when you look at
  1202. 51:05what the child was doing with the
  1203. 51:06regular verbs in his vocabulary uh
  1204. 51:09whether he was saying yesterday we walk
  1205. 51:12uh or yesterday we walked and if you
  1206. 51:15look at that you see that the boy goes
  1207. 51:19through a transition from leaving the
  1208. 51:21regular forms unmarked most of the time
  1209. 51:23to supplying them more often the not
  1210. 51:26that is going from saying yesterday we
  1211. 51:28walked to yesterday we walked and the
  1212. 51:30transition is exactly the point at which
  1213. 51:32he makes his first error like ComEd and
  1214. 51:35heared so this is in a sense a picture
  1215. 51:38of a that catches the child in an act in
  1216. 51:40the act of acquiring a rule before he
  1217. 51:43had the rule when memory came up
  1218. 51:45empty-handed and he couldn't retrieve
  1219. 51:48the past tense of say break he had no
  1220. 51:51choice but to say yesterday we break it
  1221. 51:54after he has the rule then he it's
  1222. 51:56possible to say yesterday we breaked it
  1223. 51:59and so the graph shows the rule coming
  1224. 52:01into existence both in the child
  1225. 52:04applying it correctly where it does
  1226. 52:06belong and applying it incorrectly where
  1227. 52:08it doesn't belong let me switch now to a
  1228. 52:11completely different kind of evidence uh
  1229. 52:13cases where the word system or the rule
  1230. 52:15system in the brain are directly damaged
  1231. 52:18by disease or injury the prediction is
  1232. 52:21that damage to memory for Words should
  1233. 52:23hurt the Irregulars damage to the brain
  1234. 52:27system for grammatical computation
  1235. 52:29should hurt the regulars and uh Michael
  1236. 52:32Alman and I looked at a uh set of
  1237. 52:34neological patients and we began with
  1238. 52:36patients with damage to the this part of
  1239. 52:39the brain the uh left hemisphere uh on
  1240. 52:42the side in the parasylvian area towards
  1241. 52:46the rear which gives rise to a symptom
  1242. 52:49called anomia typically where the
  1243. 52:52patient has difficulty retrieving words
  1244. 52:54they'll be unable to to name objects
  1245. 52:56they will be um uh use a lot of generic
  1246. 53:00words like thing and guy and stuff but
  1247. 53:02nonetheless can be fluent and can speak
  1248. 53:05in more or less grammatical sentences
  1249. 53:08but without the words slotted in on time
  1250. 53:11we found that irregular forms for this
  1251. 53:13kind of patient were harder than
  1252. 53:15regulars which is exactly what we would
  1253. 53:16expect if Irregulars depend on word
  1254. 53:18memory that the patients make a large
  1255. 53:21number of Errors like children swimmed
  1256. 53:23and breaked and and that they are
  1257. 53:26pretty good at doing a wug test today I
  1258. 53:28wug yesterday I waged uh because that
  1259. 53:31does not depend on memory which is what
  1260. 53:33is impaired we compared them with
  1261. 53:35patients with damage to the front half
  1262. 53:37of the brain in the same hemisphere
  1263. 53:39where uh a stroke will often leave the
  1264. 53:42patient with a symptom called a
  1265. 53:44grammatis where the patient will have
  1266. 53:46difficulty assembling words into
  1267. 53:48sentences and uh speaking in fluent
  1268. 53:52grammatical utterances often the
  1269. 53:54patients will have less severe
  1270. 53:56difficulty in coughing up individual
  1271. 53:58words we found as predicted that this
  1272. 54:00time the Irregulars are easier than
  1273. 54:03regulars because the easier the
  1274. 54:04Irregulars depend on word memory which
  1275. 54:07is more preserved in these patients
  1276. 54:09there were few or no regularization
  1277. 54:12errors like swimmed which depend on the
  1278. 54:14operation of a rule and they could not
  1279. 54:16do a wag test uh which also depends on
  1280. 54:18the operation of a rule we got a similar
  1281. 54:21dissociation between Alzheimer's disease
  1282. 54:24patients who of course have a severe
  1283. 54:27impairment in memory often including
  1284. 54:29memory for words and who therefore find
  1285. 54:31irregular forms harder as compared to
  1286. 54:34Parkinson's disease patients who have
  1287. 54:36difficulty in planning and sequencing
  1288. 54:38speech and therefore have more problems
  1289. 54:41with regular verbs which depend on
  1290. 54:43assembling things in real time well um
  1291. 54:47before I conclude I just want to mention
  1292. 54:49one possible confounding uh
  1293. 54:51factor and that is that regular verbs
  1294. 54:54are the majority in English um I
  1295. 54:57mentioned briefly at the very beginning
  1296. 54:59of the talk that English has uh
  1297. 55:02thousands and thousands of regular verbs
  1298. 55:04but only about 165
  1299. 55:06Irregulars perhaps the regular pattern
  1300. 55:09is generalized more freely just because
  1301. 55:11it's most frequent not because it's
  1302. 55:14computed by a separate system in the
  1303. 55:16brain um in order to rule out that
  1304. 55:20possibility you would need to find a
  1305. 55:22language where a regular or default rule
  1306. 55:25rule applies to a minority of forms now
  1307. 55:28note that this at first might look like
  1308. 55:30an oxymoron because when you learn a
  1309. 55:32language often the teacher will simply
  1310. 55:34equate the regular form with the one
  1311. 55:37that's most common in the language but
  1312. 55:40in the way that I've been using regular
  1313. 55:42it doesn't apply to the statistics of
  1314. 55:44words in the language but to a bit of
  1315. 55:46psychology namely whatever operation the
  1316. 55:49speaker applies when memory comes up
  1317. 55:52empty-handed and so in theory there
  1318. 55:55could be a language in which a regular
  1319. 55:57rule only applied to a minority of forms
  1320. 56:00the question is could such a language
  1321. 56:02exist in reality could there be a
  1322. 56:04language that's so malicious so Twisted
  1323. 56:10so perverse that would actually Force
  1324. 56:12its speakers to memorize by rote a
  1325. 56:16majority of the conjugational and
  1326. 56:18declensional forms in the language well
  1327. 56:21I going to read you now a quote from an
  1328. 56:23essay by Mark Twain
  1329. 56:27called the horrors of the German
  1330. 56:30language a person who has not studied
  1331. 56:33German can form no idea of what a
  1332. 56:34perplexing language it is one is one has
  1333. 56:37washed about in it hither and thither in
  1334. 56:39the most helpless way and when at last
  1335. 56:41he thinks he has captured a rule which
  1336. 56:43offers firm ground to take a rest on
  1337. 56:45amid the general rage and turmoil of the
  1338. 56:4810 parts of speech he turns over the
  1339. 56:50page and reads let the people make
  1340. 56:52careful note of the following exceptions
  1341. 56:54he runs his eye down and finds there are
  1342. 56:57more exceptions to the rule than
  1343. 56:59instances of it perfect and indeed uh
  1344. 57:03German has uh three kinds of participles
  1345. 57:06that they it forces its Learners to cope
  1346. 57:09with ones with a vowel change and en
  1347. 57:11which are uh the vowel changes are
  1348. 57:14unpredictable hence irregular ones with
  1349. 57:17an unpredictable vowel change and T the
  1350. 57:19so-called mixed verbs also irregular and
  1351. 57:22finally participles that simply add the
  1352. 57:24T which are regular the uh plural system
  1353. 57:28is even more horrifying with eight kinds
  1354. 57:31of plurals four different suffixes uh e
  1355. 57:35r en and S some plurals that don't have
  1356. 57:38a suffix and then just to keep Learners
  1357. 57:39on their toes uh some of them can
  1358. 57:42unpredictably change the vowel in the
  1359. 57:44process called umlout um nonetheless
  1360. 57:47this is what uh Gary Marcus and I call
  1361. 57:50the exception that proves the rule
  1362. 57:53because despite a huge difference in the
  1363. 57:56statistics of English versus German Ed
  1364. 57:59being uh applying to 86% of the top
  1365. 58:03thousand verbs in English and only 45%
  1366. 58:05of the top thousand verbs in German
  1367. 58:08psychologically they behave in virtually
  1368. 58:10the same way so we use the Ed for rare
  1369. 58:14verbs like ablated where we couldn't
  1370. 58:16have memorized the past tense form
  1371. 58:18German speakers use T for rare verbs
  1372. 58:21such as gtit where they couldn't have
  1373. 58:22memorized the past tense form soldered
  1374. 58:26we use it for weird verbs that uh can't
  1375. 58:28be analogized from something similar in
  1376. 58:30memory German speakers use it for weird
  1377. 58:33verbs as in a g PL PL by the way is
  1378. 58:36German for
  1379. 58:40plum in English we verb things and when
  1380. 58:43we do we use the Ed as in fed out in
  1381. 58:46German you can also verb things and they
  1382. 58:49use it for uh the T for verbs from nouns
  1383. 58:52as in gous housed and English-speaking
  1384. 58:55children say singed German speaking
  1385. 58:58children say uh gasin the plural system
  1386. 59:01offers an even more dramatic contrast uh
  1387. 59:0599.6% of English nouns take s only 7% of
  1388. 59:09German nouns take s nonetheless we have
  1389. 59:12plumps they have plows we have the Julia
  1390. 59:15Childs they have uh Thomas man and his
  1391. 59:18wife uh Mrs man D Thomas mans not D
  1392. 59:21Thomas
  1393. 59:23Menor we enjoy
  1394. 59:25uh films about the cape Crusader
  1395. 59:27Batman's they enjoy films about uh The
  1396. 59:31Alchemist F uh
  1397. 59:34FS we import eles they export
  1398. 59:38Cadets English-speaking children say
  1399. 59:40men's germane speaking children say mans
  1400. 59:43despite the fact that they've only heard
  1401. 59:45a smattering of nouns with s on it this
  1402. 59:48leads me to the final point which is why
  1403. 59:51English and German are similar in
  1404. 59:52grammar but different in number numbers
  1405. 59:55and for that you need a mixture of
  1406. 59:57history and
  1407. 59:58psychology in protog Germanic the
  1408. 1:00:01ancestor of English and German spoken
  1409. 1:00:03more than 2,000 years ago a majority of
  1410. 1:00:05verbs are what we would today call
  1411. 1:00:08irregular but even then an ancestor of
  1412. 1:00:11the Ed or t suffix was used to for words
  1413. 1:00:14that were borrowed from other languages
  1414. 1:00:16and hence had strange sounds and for
  1415. 1:00:20derivations from other grammatical
  1416. 1:00:22categories it just so happens that an
  1417. 1:00:24English the major growth areas for verbs
  1418. 1:00:27in the next couple of Millennia were
  1419. 1:00:30loans from French because of 1066 and
  1420. 1:00:33all that when William the Conqueror
  1421. 1:00:35invaded and forced the French language
  1422. 1:00:37on the British Isles for the next couple
  1423. 1:00:39of centuries and Latin because of the
  1424. 1:00:42influence of the church and later
  1425. 1:00:44Renaissance Scholars I've estimated that
  1426. 1:00:46about 60% of English verbs came into the
  1427. 1:00:49language from French and Latin and also
  1428. 1:00:52since we like to verb things uh we find
  1429. 1:00:55that another 20% of our verbs were uh
  1430. 1:00:58originally nouns or adjectives note that
  1431. 1:01:01both kinds of verbs had to be regular
  1432. 1:01:04according to the logic of grammar that
  1433. 1:01:06I've been sketching out throughout this
  1434. 1:01:07talk so it's not that a majority of
  1435. 1:01:11verbs are regular and that pounds the
  1436. 1:01:13regular pattern into people's heads
  1437. 1:01:15leading them to use the regular as the
  1438. 1:01:18default as the uh pattern associator
  1439. 1:01:21Theory would have it but rather the
  1440. 1:01:23history tells us that that's exactly
  1441. 1:01:25backwards that instead speakers have
  1442. 1:01:28been using the regular as the default
  1443. 1:01:30literally for thousands of years and
  1444. 1:01:32that's why the majority of verbs uh in
  1445. 1:01:35English are regular it's because the
  1446. 1:01:37regular rule got first dibs on almost
  1447. 1:01:39all of the new arrivals of the last two
  1448. 1:01:42Millennia so to sum up despite the
  1449. 1:01:45identical function of regular and
  1450. 1:01:46irregular forms just two ways of talking
  1451. 1:01:49about something that happened in the
  1452. 1:01:51past or more than one of something we
  1453. 1:01:53find that people avoid Irregulars and
  1454. 1:01:56apply the regular suffix in a variety of
  1455. 1:01:58circumstances that have nothing in
  1456. 1:02:00common except a failure of access to
  1457. 1:02:02information in memory these include rare
  1458. 1:02:06words like abrogated and chided
  1459. 1:02:09difficult to analogize words like
  1460. 1:02:11plumped and friled words with
  1461. 1:02:13inaccessible Roots like low lifes and
  1462. 1:02:15flyed out words poorly recalled by
  1463. 1:02:17children as in break and holded and
  1464. 1:02:19words poorly recalled by patients with
  1465. 1:02:21disorders of word retrieval such as a IA
  1466. 1:02:24and Alzheimer's
  1467. 1:02:26disease it suggests that regular
  1468. 1:02:28inflection is computed by a mental
  1469. 1:02:30operation that does not need access to
  1470. 1:02:33the contents of memory namely a symbol
  1471. 1:02:35combination rule which can step in as
  1472. 1:02:37the default rules therefore free us from
  1473. 1:02:40the constraints of
  1474. 1:02:42memory therefore I'd like to suggest
  1475. 1:02:45that we've identified distinct mental
  1476. 1:02:47mechanisms that implement the two
  1477. 1:02:49principles of language responsible for
  1478. 1:02:51its vast expressive power memory for the
  1479. 1:02:54arbitrary sign underlying the word and
  1480. 1:02:57symbol combination for the infinite use
  1481. 1:02:59of finite media underlying grammatical
  1482. 1:03:02rules thank you very
  1483. 1:03:15much and are there any questions I think
  1484. 1:03:18a microphone has been set up and I've
  1485. 1:03:20been asked to ask you to uh step up to
  1486. 1:03:23the microphone so so that everyone else
  1487. 1:03:25can hear your
  1488. 1:03:33question has anyone studied the
  1489. 1:03:35different effects of the injury to two
  1490. 1:03:38parts of the brain on people who speak
  1491. 1:03:40German people who speak German
  1492. 1:03:46um let's see my our collaborators in
  1493. 1:03:49Germany Harold Clauson and Richard Visa
  1494. 1:03:52are in the process of doing that um
  1495. 1:03:54but I they have not published their
  1496. 1:03:56results and I can't um I can't tell you
  1497. 1:03:59what they found although it's an
  1498. 1:04:01excellent question and that one would
  1499. 1:04:03expect similar patterns that you find in
  1500. 1:04:06English again despite the vast
  1501. 1:04:08differences in the statistics so that's
  1502. 1:04:10exactly the right kind of question to
  1503. 1:04:12further test the theory and I only wish
  1504. 1:04:14I could give you the
  1505. 1:04:15answer yes thank you so with my limited
  1506. 1:04:18thought process I'm trying to frame an
  1507. 1:04:20intelligent question here um I was
  1508. 1:04:23thinking oh it's a two-part question
  1509. 1:04:25it's probably not even connected but
  1510. 1:04:29number one is there any sense that you
  1511. 1:04:30can extrapolate to all human speech and
  1512. 1:04:34all the processes and all the languages
  1513. 1:04:35because I was thinking for example about
  1514. 1:04:38languages with inflections like Chinese
  1515. 1:04:41but more to the point I was thinking of
  1516. 1:04:44a
  1517. 1:04:45language that maybe
  1518. 1:04:47Works in a much simpler and more logical
  1519. 1:04:50way Hebrew where n over 90% of the words
  1520. 1:04:53are formed from trilet Roots where
  1521. 1:04:55there's a limited number of conjugations
  1522. 1:04:57where there are no tricks of spelling
  1523. 1:04:59where you can conjugate out uh just
  1524. 1:05:02using uh it's almost mathematical as you
  1525. 1:05:05know yeah so I wonder if you'd comment
  1526. 1:05:07on that yes and in fact I I recently
  1527. 1:05:09published a paper with uh the um
  1528. 1:05:12psychologist Iris barent applying these
  1529. 1:05:14ideas to Hebrew and it works uh in a
  1530. 1:05:17number of ways it works quite well um in
  1531. 1:05:19particular uh while uh the English the
  1532. 1:05:23Hebrew plural system again has some
  1533. 1:05:25rules such as masculine uh nouns take IM
  1534. 1:05:29uh feminine nouns take but there are a
  1535. 1:05:32handful of exceptions and the exceptions
  1536. 1:05:36therefore the Irregulars which have to
  1537. 1:05:37be memorized behave very much like the
  1538. 1:05:40English ones so for example uh if I can
  1539. 1:05:42remember one of our um instances uh kir
  1540. 1:05:46means wall and ordinarily uh you'd
  1541. 1:05:49expect the um plural to be uh Kim but
  1542. 1:05:54it's an irregular form in the plural is
  1543. 1:05:56kirot however if I if I have the example
  1544. 1:05:59right if there are any Hebrew speakers
  1545. 1:06:00you can in the audience you can correct
  1546. 1:06:01me but if you change it to say Mr and
  1547. 1:06:05Mrs Kier you create turn the noun into a
  1548. 1:06:08name now you refer to them as the Kim
  1549. 1:06:12not the kirot uh likewise if you have
  1550. 1:06:15the word now as a lone word from another
  1551. 1:06:18language and you say you know the French
  1552. 1:06:19they put creme Cassis into champagne and
  1553. 1:06:22they call it a kir would you like a
  1554. 1:06:24couple of them then Hebrew speakers
  1555. 1:06:25again say a Kim exactly like the flly
  1556. 1:06:28out in the low lives uh in English so
  1557. 1:06:31despite the fact as you point out that
  1558. 1:06:33there are that Hebrew has no well
  1559. 1:06:36documented historical connection to
  1560. 1:06:38English it's not a Germanic or even an
  1561. 1:06:40Indo-European language despite the fact
  1562. 1:06:43that you assemble words in Hebrew not by
  1563. 1:06:45joining things end to end by but by
  1564. 1:06:48sticking vowels inside of slots inside
  1565. 1:06:51of uh Roots nonetheless the logic of
  1566. 1:06:54regularity and irregularity seems to be
  1567. 1:06:56quite comparable and the even nicer
  1568. 1:06:58punchline is that um in Hebrew the facts
  1569. 1:07:02that I mentioned about um how German has
  1570. 1:07:05a very different statistical pattern to
  1571. 1:07:07English but nonetheless obeys the same
  1572. 1:07:09logic that is true to an even greater
  1573. 1:07:12extent in Hebrew where a lot of the
  1574. 1:07:14sound patterning that we see in English
  1575. 1:07:16like ring rang Sing sang drink drank
  1576. 1:07:19doesn't apply to Hebrew but nonetheless
  1577. 1:07:22you get the same interaction between the
  1578. 1:07:24rule governed in the memorized
  1579. 1:07:27forms has anything that uh in in your
  1580. 1:07:30studies caused you to uh form a view
  1581. 1:07:33about the way we teach language to
  1582. 1:07:35children and whether it's being taught
  1583. 1:07:37properly um certainly nothing that I've
  1584. 1:07:39talked about today would be directly
  1585. 1:07:41applicable you you would certainly
  1586. 1:07:43expect that um since there is some
  1587. 1:07:46evidence that the ability to acquire
  1588. 1:07:48language instinctively um declines with
  1589. 1:07:50age particularly um in uh late childhood
  1590. 1:07:54and early adulthood uh after puberty it
  1591. 1:07:56becomes increasingly difficult to
  1592. 1:07:58acquire the syntax and sound pattern of
  1593. 1:08:01a foreign language uh effortlessly that
  1594. 1:08:04a lot of what ordinary kids um have to
  1595. 1:08:07do with irregular forms adults might
  1596. 1:08:10even have to do with regular forms that
  1597. 1:08:12is there's a lot more memorization of
  1598. 1:08:15cases that are rule governed but when
  1599. 1:08:17you're a child it's easier to discern
  1600. 1:08:19the rule when you're an adult you might
  1601. 1:08:22have to do a lot more uh memorizing and
  1602. 1:08:25and um adults often will Mis memorize
  1603. 1:08:28forms I have a colleague a distinguished
  1604. 1:08:31professor at MIT born in Italy who uh
  1605. 1:08:34consistently says uh he's choosing it uh
  1606. 1:08:36for example an irregular form but not
  1607. 1:08:38the right
  1608. 1:08:42one I was wondering if you would um
  1609. 1:08:45comment on also that some were many many
  1610. 1:08:48sounds become multiple meanings and duck
  1611. 1:08:50is a pretty good example that you were
  1612. 1:08:51using at the beginning and how this
  1613. 1:08:54comes about and then your mind has to
  1614. 1:08:56separate out the appropriate one yeah
  1615. 1:08:58this it it's true that the um most
  1616. 1:09:01common words in a language tend to have
  1617. 1:09:04multiple meanings if you look up a word
  1618. 1:09:06like set in the dictionary there can be
  1619. 1:09:09up to a 100 different meanings listed
  1620. 1:09:11for it whereas a low lower Frequency
  1621. 1:09:13Word like Matrix or triangulate might
  1622. 1:09:16have only one or two meanings this is a
  1623. 1:09:19one of the reasons that computer
  1624. 1:09:21language understanding systems are still
  1625. 1:09:22so primitive um that we apply our common
  1626. 1:09:27sense to winnow out all of the
  1627. 1:09:30inappropriate meanings whereas computers
  1628. 1:09:32which are bereft of Common Sense uh will
  1629. 1:09:36app literally not know which of the many
  1630. 1:09:38meanings to uh to use fortunately um as
  1631. 1:09:42I mentioned in this particular
  1632. 1:09:44circumscribed domain meaning has a uh
  1633. 1:09:47very narrow role in general when you
  1634. 1:09:50only change the meaning of a word
  1635. 1:09:53without changing ing its grammatical
  1636. 1:09:54structure all of the Irregulars come
  1637. 1:09:57along for the ride so of
  1638. 1:10:00the 20 or however many uh definitions
  1639. 1:10:04there are of set in the dictionary all
  1640. 1:10:07120 of them are irregular today I set
  1641. 1:10:10yesterday I set um the only case in
  1642. 1:10:13which a meaning change interacts with
  1643. 1:10:14anything that I've said is when the
  1644. 1:10:16meaning change also changes the um
  1645. 1:10:19grammatical structure such as a name to
  1646. 1:10:21a noun a noun to a name a verb to a noun
  1647. 1:10:24and so
  1648. 1:10:25on yes uh with words that rhyme and have
  1649. 1:10:31similar meanings like Dash crash
  1650. 1:10:35smash whether it's a violent um is there
  1651. 1:10:39anything you can say about those or
  1652. 1:10:40there any rules or just whatever you
  1653. 1:10:43could say yeah uh forms like automat PF
  1654. 1:10:47like Dash crash smash uh and so on or
  1655. 1:10:50phonetic symbolism sound symbolism cases
  1656. 1:10:53where you're not actually talking about
  1657. 1:10:55a noise but nonetheless there's
  1658. 1:10:57something about the word that feels
  1659. 1:10:59right G given what it means like flutter
  1660. 1:11:03where flutter you can't hear something
  1661. 1:11:06fluttering but nonetheless the motion of
  1662. 1:11:09your tongue calls to mind the actual
  1663. 1:11:11meaning or
  1664. 1:11:12cantankerous um sneer snob snoody uh and
  1665. 1:11:17so on uh listless lazy lethargic they're
  1666. 1:11:22often these families of words
  1667. 1:11:24first of all they are these families are
  1668. 1:11:27counter examples to s's principle of the
  1669. 1:11:30arbitrary sign because there's at least
  1670. 1:11:32a little bit of the sound that isn't
  1671. 1:11:35completely arbitrarily paired with the
  1672. 1:11:37meaning um also these families tend not
  1673. 1:11:40to be governed by a rule there isn't a
  1674. 1:11:43rule in English that says if a word
  1675. 1:11:44begins with SN then it refers to
  1676. 1:11:48snobbishness or if it begins with uh L
  1677. 1:11:51it refers to um
  1678. 1:11:54low energy um it's more statistical and
  1679. 1:11:57the generalizations are made in a uh
  1680. 1:12:01probabilistic manner much like um spling
  1681. 1:12:05Spang dizzy Deans blind blound and so on
  1682. 1:12:08and so I suspect that the generalization
  1683. 1:12:10of a sound to a word with a similar
  1684. 1:12:13meaning uh might be due to the same
  1685. 1:12:17property in memory that allows us to
  1686. 1:12:19generalize from uh drink drank to spling
  1687. 1:12:22Spang namely the fact that similar
  1688. 1:12:24sounds literally overlap in the brain
  1689. 1:12:27and that which is associated with One
  1690. 1:12:28automatically transfers to the other the
  1691. 1:12:30pattern associating property of
  1692. 1:12:34memory do German children discern the
  1693. 1:12:37rule from the speech they hear around
  1694. 1:12:38them or are they taught it explicitly
  1695. 1:12:40and if the first how do they discern it
  1696. 1:12:42if there's not a statistical yeah basis
  1697. 1:12:44for it um they must discern it obviously
  1698. 1:12:46not explicitly by being taught um
  1699. 1:12:50likewise as in in English children of
  1700. 1:12:52that age aren't given given uh grammar
  1701. 1:12:54lessons um we don't know for sure how
  1702. 1:12:58children do it it can't really be
  1703. 1:13:00statistically in the sense of sheer
  1704. 1:13:02number of words that exemplify a pattern
  1705. 1:13:04because in German the words the nouns
  1706. 1:13:07with s are a minority nonetheless it's
  1707. 1:13:10one of the two patterns that the German
  1708. 1:13:12children are willing to generalize um we
  1709. 1:13:16suspect that um it may be that children
  1710. 1:13:18use the kinds of information that are a
  1711. 1:13:20little bit similar to the ones that a
  1712. 1:13:21linguist would use in deciding whether
  1713. 1:13:24something is truly regular namely if
  1714. 1:13:27you're a German speaking child trying to
  1715. 1:13:29decide whether say s or e r is the uh
  1716. 1:13:33regular a couple of the tip offs are the
  1717. 1:13:36fact that s applies to weird sounding
  1718. 1:13:38words like Hobby and outto um and
  1719. 1:13:41therefore are unlikely to be stored
  1720. 1:13:45together with the ending As Natural
  1721. 1:13:47words in the language it applies to
  1722. 1:13:49aatopia and if you recognize the sound
  1723. 1:13:53in a word then it's got some extra stuff
  1724. 1:13:55stock onto the end you can infer that
  1725. 1:13:58that stuff was added to the word rather
  1726. 1:14:00than being a part of the word um it
  1727. 1:14:02could be due to words that are um uh
  1728. 1:14:07heterogeneous in sound that all take the
  1729. 1:14:10same ending and so uh that is evidence
  1730. 1:14:14that that ending applies regardless of
  1731. 1:14:16sound and our uh we uh Gary Marcus and I
  1732. 1:14:20have looked at at least in the case of
  1733. 1:14:21English what kind of words do children
  1734. 1:14:24of that age have in their vocabulary do
  1735. 1:14:27they have automa PE words do they have
  1736. 1:14:30words with unusual sounds with po
  1737. 1:14:32multiple syllables and so on and the
  1738. 1:14:34answer is that they do so we don't know
  1739. 1:14:37that children use the structure of words
  1740. 1:14:39as evidence for an ending being applied
  1741. 1:14:43by rule but if they're if they were
  1742. 1:14:45equipped to do so the information would
  1743. 1:14:48be there they wouldn't need Clairvoyance
  1744. 1:14:50or ESP they could figure it out
  1745. 1:14:56are some of the rules that you mentioned
  1746. 1:14:58uh like the tendency to use regular
  1747. 1:15:00endings for loaned words common to all
  1748. 1:15:03languages or virtually all if so why are
  1749. 1:15:06they for example in our genome these
  1750. 1:15:09rules yeah um I I would say that that's
  1751. 1:15:13kind of more or less true I wouldn't say
  1752. 1:15:15it's exactly true but in General Lone
  1753. 1:15:18word in in many languages in fact in all
  1754. 1:15:21the languages that I've looked at and
  1755. 1:15:23I've tried to sample ones that were from
  1756. 1:15:25very historically and geographically
  1757. 1:15:27unrelated language families a lone word
  1758. 1:15:31from another language will take the
  1759. 1:15:32regular ending a uh word converted from
  1760. 1:15:36another category very often will take
  1761. 1:15:38the regular ending U and and so on so
  1762. 1:15:41the pattern that is the fact that it's
  1763. 1:15:44true in eight languages doesn't mean it
  1764. 1:15:46applies to all 6,000 languages but it's
  1765. 1:15:49interesting that in languages as far
  1766. 1:15:51flung as Hebrew Chinese um ninian
  1767. 1:15:55languages this pattern more or less
  1768. 1:15:57seems to hold and it wouldn't be
  1769. 1:16:00directly coded in the genome in the
  1770. 1:16:01sense that there'd be a a gene for the
  1771. 1:16:03regular past tense but it could be that
  1772. 1:16:06the way that the genome organizes the
  1773. 1:16:10language system in the brain as the
  1774. 1:16:11brain develops um gives rise to a
  1775. 1:16:14certain kind of rooting diagram sort of
  1776. 1:16:16the how the boxes and arrows are set up
  1777. 1:16:19might be coded in the genome and it's a
  1778. 1:16:22consequence of what information is fed
  1779. 1:16:25into which process that gives rise to
  1780. 1:16:28these quirks and phenomena for example
  1781. 1:16:31the fact that the um Regular seems to be
  1782. 1:16:35added kind of as the last step in the
  1783. 1:16:38assembly line of building a word so that
  1784. 1:16:40you build a word you add stuff you
  1785. 1:16:42fiddle with it and when you're just done
  1786. 1:16:45and ready to stick it into a sentence
  1787. 1:16:46that's when the Ed or the S gets added
  1788. 1:16:48on that kind of information processing
  1789. 1:16:52architecture
  1790. 1:16:53is what we're guessing is coded in the
  1791. 1:16:55in the genome certainly nothing as
  1792. 1:16:57specific as a particular suffix a
  1793. 1:16:59particular rule a particular process in
  1794. 1:17:01in the
  1795. 1:17:06language there are no verb conjugations
  1796. 1:17:09or plurals of verbs in Vietnamese and
  1797. 1:17:11I'm wondering if that's highly unusual
  1798. 1:17:13in the
  1799. 1:17:14language um not necessarily um that in
  1800. 1:17:18Vietnamese and Chinese as well there is
  1801. 1:17:20no inflection and um the
  1802. 1:17:25um and languages have a mixture of um
  1803. 1:17:31Reliance on syntax as you have in
  1804. 1:17:33English and Chinese where most of the
  1805. 1:17:35action consists of stringing words
  1806. 1:17:37together in phrases and Reliance on
  1807. 1:17:40morphology or building words where most
  1808. 1:17:42of the action consists of stringing
  1809. 1:17:44together lots of prefixes and suffixes
  1810. 1:17:46in a word English is mixed we have some
  1811. 1:17:49inflection adding Ed adding s iing but
  1812. 1:17:52we rely more on syntax the claim um of
  1813. 1:17:56the the theory that I'm making today is
  1814. 1:17:58that the what all languages do have is a
  1815. 1:18:02storage mechanism and a combinatorial
  1816. 1:18:05mechanism and that there's a close
  1817. 1:18:07relationship between the combinatorial
  1818. 1:18:09mechanism for words in phrases which is
  1819. 1:18:12what Chinese goes crazy with and the
  1820. 1:18:14mechanism for assembling prefixes and
  1821. 1:18:17suffixes inside a word which is what a
  1822. 1:18:19language like Latin or many African
  1823. 1:18:22languages go crazy with uh but that
  1824. 1:18:24these at the level of psychology and
  1825. 1:18:26perhaps at the level of Neurology the
  1826. 1:18:28main distinction is combinatorics versus
  1827. 1:18:31storage and and uh retrieval is it odd
  1828. 1:18:34though Vietnamese is written with
  1829. 1:18:36letters that are similar to the English
  1830. 1:18:38language and yet pronounced more like
  1831. 1:18:40Chinese so there's sort of a contrast
  1832. 1:18:42between which way the grammar develops
  1833. 1:18:45in general it's an interesting point
  1834. 1:18:47because it shows that the written form
  1835. 1:18:48of the language is really more a matter
  1836. 1:18:51of historical ACC accident than of the
  1837. 1:18:54inherent logic of the language and
  1838. 1:18:57writing systems are rare they're recent
  1839. 1:19:01in history they tend to be um evolve a
  1840. 1:19:05small number of times from very complex
  1841. 1:19:07civilizations and then tinkered with and
  1842. 1:19:09improved over hundreds of years um and
  1843. 1:19:13they're in a sense psychologically very
  1844. 1:19:14unnatural they're almost like the
  1845. 1:19:16internal combustion engine or the you
  1846. 1:19:19know the cotton gin their inventions and
  1847. 1:19:21so it just so happens that Vietnamese
  1848. 1:19:24didn't have an indigenous writing system
  1849. 1:19:27very late in its history instead of
  1850. 1:19:29going to the trouble of involving one
  1851. 1:19:30from scratch it just applied readymade
  1852. 1:19:33the Roman alphabet but it could have
  1853. 1:19:35been cilic it could have been the
  1854. 1:19:38Chinese characters which is what the
  1855. 1:19:39Japanese uh began with it's kind of
  1856. 1:19:42whatever was handy depending on which
  1857. 1:19:45missionaries were around which
  1858. 1:19:46conquerors which neighbors uh and so on
  1859. 1:19:49but it there is doesn't necessarily have
  1860. 1:19:51to be a match between the way the
  1861. 1:19:53language works and whatever writing
  1862. 1:19:55system you apply to it thank
  1863. 1:19:58you you've mentioned the distinct
  1864. 1:20:02mechanisms for the two different
  1865. 1:20:05principles of language you've identified
  1866. 1:20:07does that require still another
  1867. 1:20:09mechanism to determine which of these
  1868. 1:20:12two mechanisms to invoke yeah I very um
  1869. 1:20:16indeed if you have two mechanisms you
  1870. 1:20:17need something that coordinates them
  1871. 1:20:19chooses selects or chooses which two
  1872. 1:20:22utilize well basically um you don't need
  1873. 1:20:26anything very complicated to choose
  1874. 1:20:28between them as far as as we can see the
  1875. 1:20:30idea which I mentioned very briefly and
  1876. 1:20:32and didn't return to is that in general
  1877. 1:20:35when you have something in memory it
  1878. 1:20:37turns off the rule that would generate a
  1879. 1:20:39corresponding form so if you come up
  1880. 1:20:42with brought as the past tense of bring
  1881. 1:20:44that turns off the aded process and so
  1882. 1:20:48to coordinate these two basically you
  1883. 1:20:51just need kind of a oneway inhibitory
  1884. 1:20:54linkage as the memory system says I
  1885. 1:20:56found something that sends a signal uh
  1886. 1:20:59turning off the rule box to learn it and
  1887. 1:21:03to decide where to store it and what
  1888. 1:21:05mechanism to use is there still
  1889. 1:21:09another mechanism behind that that is
  1890. 1:21:12required um no I don't learning process
  1891. 1:21:14itself um you decide what to invoke
  1892. 1:21:17whether it will be a rule or before it
  1893. 1:21:21will be either
  1894. 1:21:24before it will be used either stored
  1895. 1:21:28either at according to the rule or the
  1896. 1:21:30word mechanism how would the brain
  1897. 1:21:34decide which of these abilities to make
  1898. 1:21:37use of in the learning process yeah no
  1899. 1:21:40it's a good question and um as far as we
  1900. 1:21:42can tell to begin with a child really
  1901. 1:21:46has no choice but to memorize everything
  1902. 1:21:47as if it's a word because the rules
  1903. 1:21:50couldn't possibly be coded in the genome
  1904. 1:21:52they they differ depending on what
  1905. 1:21:54language you speak added to form the
  1906. 1:21:57past tense is not something you could be
  1907. 1:21:59born with so to begin with the idea is
  1908. 1:22:02that kids memorize walked the same way
  1909. 1:22:04they memorize uh uh BR or rang um and in
  1910. 1:22:09fact we have evidence that that's the
  1911. 1:22:11case that the that early on at the point
  1912. 1:22:14I showed you in the graph before the
  1913. 1:22:15child is generalizing the rule there
  1914. 1:22:17seems to be very infrequent and sporadic
  1915. 1:22:20use of regular forms like like played
  1916. 1:22:23and walked
  1917. 1:22:25and the uh the hunch is that the child
  1918. 1:22:29juxtaposes individually memorized pairs
  1919. 1:22:32like walk walked play played uh talk
  1920. 1:22:35talked explain explained and so on
  1921. 1:22:38notices that words come in two ever so
  1922. 1:22:41slightly different forms is equipped
  1923. 1:22:44with some kind of algorithm that doesn't
  1924. 1:22:46just write it off as variety for the
  1925. 1:22:49spice of life or you know oh Mom she
  1926. 1:22:52sometimes sticks s's at the end for no
  1927. 1:22:54possible reason um but rather looks for
  1928. 1:22:57a rationale for systematic variation why
  1929. 1:23:00is Mom sometimes adding s let me see
  1930. 1:23:03what the difference is between when she
  1931. 1:23:05says dog and when she says dogs aha
  1932. 1:23:08there are a bunch of them now and the S
  1933. 1:23:10is there therefore the S is used to
  1934. 1:23:12indicate a bunch of that gets enshrined
  1935. 1:23:16as a rule peeled off the individual
  1936. 1:23:18words then it can be then the child can
  1937. 1:23:21run a muck with it and apply it every
  1938. 1:23:23which way that's the general
  1939. 1:23:28idea can the process of applying the
  1940. 1:23:31regular
  1941. 1:23:32form to words that have not or forms
  1942. 1:23:38rather that have not been memorized or
  1943. 1:23:40that or where memory fails can can that
  1944. 1:23:44be applied to the spelling of
  1945. 1:23:47dyslexics um where I've seen for example
  1946. 1:23:52went spelled very very often wh NT is
  1947. 1:23:58that is that an application of the
  1948. 1:24:01regular pattern of all of the question
  1949. 1:24:03words that are learned early on that
  1950. 1:24:05begin with wh and because the sounds is
  1951. 1:24:08what is that why um and there are many
  1952. 1:24:11many spelling
  1953. 1:24:13failures um that seem to follow regular
  1954. 1:24:16patterns and if that is so um is is
  1955. 1:24:20there um a a a training technique that
  1956. 1:24:25you could suggest that could um reduce
  1957. 1:24:29that yeah um in fact there are many
  1958. 1:24:32parallels between spelling and um and
  1959. 1:24:34grammar there are um something like 87%
  1960. 1:24:38of English words are spelled according
  1961. 1:24:40to regular rules but then there's this
  1962. 1:24:42133% of exceptions like o f for of and
  1963. 1:24:46ey for I and so on the Irregulars tend
  1964. 1:24:49to be highest in frequency because they
  1965. 1:24:52have to to be filtered through the
  1966. 1:24:53memorization of subsequent gener
  1967. 1:24:55Generations when you have damage to
  1968. 1:24:57memory you tend to get overgeneral
  1969. 1:24:59spellings like
  1970. 1:25:02um um like the one one that you
  1971. 1:25:04mentioned or say um i e for instead of
  1972. 1:25:08aisle um and uh conversely when there's
  1973. 1:25:11a problem in grammatical combination you
  1974. 1:25:15often have an inability to spell new
  1975. 1:25:17words like to plam or to Ginge um so
  1976. 1:25:21there are a number of parallels um and
  1977. 1:25:25and there must be some psychological
  1978. 1:25:28commonality um I wouldn't be prepared to
  1979. 1:25:31say simply because of my own ignorance
  1980. 1:25:33how you would translate that into a
  1981. 1:25:35curriculum other than being aware of the
  1982. 1:25:37fact that a student could spell a word
  1983. 1:25:39correctly for two very different reasons
  1984. 1:25:42either by applying a rule or by
  1985. 1:25:44memorizing it and that you have to sort
  1986. 1:25:45of diagnose which of the two a student
  1987. 1:25:48is using moreover that um the the these
  1988. 1:25:52can be that that uh in cases where
  1989. 1:25:54there's a misspelling it may not just be
  1990. 1:25:56random garbage or noise but might be a
  1991. 1:25:59case of a child over applying a rule to
  1992. 1:26:02an irregular case so it may not be
  1993. 1:26:05stupidity laziness sloppiness but one
  1994. 1:26:08system applying where the other one
  1995. 1:26:09ordinarily
  1996. 1:26:11does thank you
  1997. 1:26:13thank uh this uh question is probably a
  1998. 1:26:16little bit less technical um I'm raising
  1999. 1:26:19um um a 2-year-old daughter English and
  2000. 1:26:21German bilingually and I'm you know
  2001. 1:26:23hearing your talk I I was like
  2002. 1:26:25struggling to find some kind of a
  2003. 1:26:27practical implication on how to best
  2004. 1:26:30Riser bilingually English and German for
  2005. 1:26:33example I've noticed it's I'm witnessing
  2006. 1:26:35firsthand how uh how much easier it is
  2007. 1:26:38for her to to learn English words for
  2008. 1:26:40example like one of her first words was
  2009. 1:26:42bubble and the German word is cphon
  2010. 1:26:44blaza it's so much more cumbersome is
  2011. 1:26:47and there are many examples like that
  2012. 1:26:49and her German really is is totally
  2013. 1:26:51lagging behind so I was I was struggling
  2014. 1:26:53to find some kind of a practical
  2015. 1:26:55implication since you mentioned you know
  2016. 1:26:57English and German in your talk how to
  2017. 1:26:59best raise a daughter in you know
  2018. 1:27:01bilingual in English and German yeah
  2019. 1:27:04well despite Twain's uh Mark Twain's
  2020. 1:27:07complaint about the awful German
  2021. 1:27:08language it's really awful only to
  2022. 1:27:11adults kids obviously must be doing fine
  2023. 1:27:14with German otherwise it wouldn't have
  2024. 1:27:15survived to the present day with all of
  2025. 1:27:17these multiple plural forms and so on um
  2026. 1:27:20you know Twain also said i' I'd rather
  2027. 1:27:22um I'd rather decline two drinks than
  2028. 1:27:25one adjective in German
  2029. 1:27:28and but this is two more question two
  2030. 1:27:31more questions um but the thing is that
  2031. 1:27:33if kids continue to hear it continue to
  2032. 1:27:35use it uh then then they they will
  2033. 1:27:37Master it as they have for you know
  2034. 1:27:40Generations the trick is uh it's
  2035. 1:27:43generally kids are a bit faster in
  2036. 1:27:44coping with two languages when they come
  2037. 1:27:46from different speakers when Mom speaks
  2038. 1:27:48one language and dad speaks another that
  2039. 1:27:50gives them a a little bit of help and
  2040. 1:27:53they'll generally retain it if they have
  2041. 1:27:55to use the other language with their
  2042. 1:27:57peers that if it's just Mom and Dad
  2043. 1:28:01especially if Mom and Dad are bilingual
  2044. 1:28:03the child will force the parents to use
  2045. 1:28:06the dominant language say English
  2046. 1:28:08whereas if the child goes to summer camp
  2047. 1:28:11plays with cousins every summer uh has
  2048. 1:28:13reason to use it with other kids that's
  2049. 1:28:16a better uh portent of of keeping both
  2050. 1:28:19languages makes sense thank you okay and
  2051. 1:28:22and just these these last two and I've
  2052. 1:28:23been uh asked to bring the proceedings
  2053. 1:28:26to a close after these two okay I have
  2054. 1:28:28three unrelated questions they're all
  2055. 1:28:33brief the first is do you have any idea
  2056. 1:28:36of what prompted the big vowel reduction
  2057. 1:28:39in the 15th century and the second is um
  2058. 1:28:44how do you feel about uh the cobbling
  2059. 1:28:48together of prefixes suffixes and words
  2060. 1:28:51the you called it morphol morphology
  2061. 1:28:54morphology it seems as if it's happening
  2062. 1:28:57more and more words like dequ or
  2063. 1:29:03self-actualize um and the third is uh
  2064. 1:29:08Japanese
  2065. 1:29:09sounds um is spelled exactly the way
  2066. 1:29:13it's pronounced in English is that
  2067. 1:29:15because the language was isolated for so
  2068. 1:29:19long and when the English decided
  2069. 1:29:22to translate it it it happened very
  2070. 1:29:25systematically or you're talking about
  2071. 1:29:27the the transliteration of Japanese into
  2072. 1:29:29Roman characters yes oh yeah okay first
  2073. 1:29:33no one really knows what caused the
  2074. 1:29:35Great Vowel Shift the two main theories
  2075. 1:29:37are that it was a kind of uh uh sequence
  2076. 1:29:41of enhancements that as
  2077. 1:29:44um because around that time people were
  2078. 1:29:47swallowing the second syllables of words
  2079. 1:29:51um and were um the reason that we have
  2080. 1:29:54all of these crazy silent vowels at the
  2081. 1:29:57end of words like make M A ke is that it
  2082. 1:30:00used to be Maka and then the e at the
  2083. 1:30:03end eventually got dropped alt together
  2084. 1:30:05because words were becoming more and
  2085. 1:30:07more similar because of this uh slurring
  2086. 1:30:09of the second syllable people started to
  2087. 1:30:11exaggerate differences among vowels to
  2088. 1:30:14compensate and they started off say with
  2089. 1:30:16one vowel contrast they exaggerated the
  2090. 1:30:19difference between them but then the
  2091. 1:30:21vowel that they exaggerated started to
  2092. 1:30:22bump up against some second vowel so
  2093. 1:30:24they had to exaggerate that in a
  2094. 1:30:26different direction to differentiate it
  2095. 1:30:28and you got kind of a billiard game
  2096. 1:30:30where the different vowels got knocked
  2097. 1:30:31around in space and when all was said
  2098. 1:30:34and done no one was any better off than
  2099. 1:30:37when they began but it was all done one
  2100. 1:30:38vowel at a time the other is that it was
  2101. 1:30:41kind of social differentiation that as
  2102. 1:30:44French had vanished as a means of
  2103. 1:30:46distinguishing the um the beautiful
  2104. 1:30:49people from the hooy uh you needed some
  2105. 1:30:52fussy way of speaking in order to show
  2106. 1:30:54that you were an aristocrat and so
  2107. 1:30:56people started to uh exaggerate their
  2108. 1:30:59speech in fancy ways and it could be
  2109. 1:31:01that both of those theories are right in
  2110. 1:31:03terms of um Mor uh morphology is there
  2111. 1:31:07more and more of it um it's something
  2112. 1:31:09that English has been doing for an
  2113. 1:31:10awfully long time there are cases in
  2114. 1:31:12which you know things like you know to
  2115. 1:31:15prioritize and to you know accessorize
  2116. 1:31:17and so on can kind of grade on the ears
  2117. 1:31:20because it's something that Bureau RS
  2118. 1:31:22and um uh sort of the Dilbert business
  2119. 1:31:25crowd uh tends to do to impress people
  2120. 1:31:28with how scientific their approaches uh
  2121. 1:31:31often though it does add to the
  2122. 1:31:34expressive power of a language Strunk
  2123. 1:31:36and white for example were upset about
  2124. 1:31:38the word to moisturize saying well why
  2125. 1:31:40can't you just say to moisten but of
  2126. 1:31:42course anyone who uses a moisturizer
  2127. 1:31:44knows that moisturizing and moistening
  2128. 1:31:46aren't the same thing I mean if you
  2129. 1:31:47moisten your skin you can just use a
  2130. 1:31:49water pistol uh but moisturiz in means
  2131. 1:31:52just it's a a completely different
  2132. 1:31:54concept and so even though some of these
  2133. 1:31:56forms have lots of syllables they're
  2134. 1:31:58kind of ugly they do allow us to convey
  2135. 1:32:01ideas and that's I think one of the
  2136. 1:32:02reasons they're indispensable and in
  2137. 1:32:05terms of Japanese the transliter
  2138. 1:32:07transliterations where you apply one
  2139. 1:32:10writing system to another language for
  2140. 1:32:12the benefit of the speakers of the first
  2141. 1:32:16language they're generally regular
  2142. 1:32:18simply because that's the way you
  2143. 1:32:20concoct that's the way you apply the
  2144. 1:32:21system uh to begin with the irregularity
  2145. 1:32:24tends to accumulate over centuries as a
  2146. 1:32:27system is entrenched and doesn't track
  2147. 1:32:30the changes in pronunciation the
  2148. 1:32:32language is kind of a the speech is a
  2149. 1:32:34moving Target but the spelling stays put
  2150. 1:32:37and so the spelling over centuries
  2151. 1:32:40becomes more and more irregular compared
  2152. 1:32:42to the sounds and so that doesn't happen
  2153. 1:32:44when you artificially extend uh a one
  2154. 1:32:47writing system to another
  2155. 1:32:49language and what last question
  2156. 1:32:52uh the questions related to the great V
  2157. 1:32:54shift um what do you think are the most
  2158. 1:32:56powerful forces that change
  2159. 1:32:59language um and the great Val shift that
  2160. 1:33:03obviously has the name the great Val
  2161. 1:33:05shift can you uh give us uh any current
  2162. 1:33:08examples of something that's significant
  2163. 1:33:10or any changes in language um from
  2164. 1:33:13recent times that you can equate to that
  2165. 1:33:16sure dude um the uh the kind of Valley
  2166. 1:33:20Valley Girl speak for example uh where
  2167. 1:33:23we recognize fairly recently a shift in
  2168. 1:33:27pronunciation or um if you've ever
  2169. 1:33:30listened to a a person in their 20s uh
  2170. 1:33:32whenever they use a sentence they
  2171. 1:33:35pronounce it as if it's a question uh
  2172. 1:33:37and this is kind of recent uh that would
  2173. 1:33:41be another example and for all we know
  2174. 1:33:42that could be put a permanent stamp on
  2175. 1:33:45the English language as people like me
  2176. 1:33:47uh die and people who
  2177. 1:33:50are uh and people who are now in their
  2178. 1:33:5220s uh out last I understand what you're
  2179. 1:33:58saying thank you very much thanks to all
  2180. 1:34:01of
  2181. 1:34:02[Music]
  2182. 1:34:05you thanks for listening for more
  2183. 1:34:07information on the 92nd Street y New
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