Women's Power to Shame Men | Paul Elam | Outtakes from "The Red Pill" — Transcript
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- 0:02I think it's important here to
- 0:16understand is that a voice for men
- 0:19serves a purpose that's never really
- 0:21been filled before in that we speak
- 0:24about these issues defiantly there is a
- 0:29lot of pressure to not talk about these
- 0:33things I think when you talk to say
- 0:35feminist gender ideologues the first
- 0:40thing you will say hear from them
- 0:41generally is that men don't have issues
- 0:43that they have all the rights they have
- 0:45all the power and that we need to
- 0:46reconstruct a masculinity and defeat
- 0:49patriarchy dismantle patriarchy and that
- 0:52will address men's issues that won't
- 0:54address men's issues men are dying right
- 0:57now by their own hand like I said that
- 0:59at four times the rate of women gender
- 1:03ideologues in a khadeem discussing how
- 1:06to dismantle patriarchy is not
- 1:07addressing the suicide rate it men but
- 1:10they will tell you that it is and at the
- 1:12same time on the other side of the coin
- 1:14if you talk to more traditional people
- 1:16they have almost the identical same
- 1:19message which is men into shut up go do
- 1:21their job take care of their families
- 1:23and quit complaining so much a voice for
- 1:27men started out just investigating these
- 1:30issues looking at them talking about
- 1:32them
- 1:32what we found from the backlash though
- 1:35is that there was a need to talk above
- 1:37the reaction there is a lot of people
- 1:41now that see a voice for men as
- 1:44something hostile to women which it's
- 1:46not like I said half of our editorial
- 1:49board is women but the accusation is
- 1:52there nonetheless that the we target
- 1:54women for insult I mean I can't even
- 1:58dignify a lot of it with the response
- 2:01but what we do is we examine these
- 2:04issues unapologetically and that is I
- 2:07think very very key because when you
- 2:09have a culture that we want you to shut
- 2:11up that's the last thing you should
- 2:16so would you say that the voice that a
- 2:19voice for men has taken on is unique to
- 2:22other men's rights groups not unique
- 2:25there's a proliferation of different
- 2:28websites out there in different voices
- 2:30that are speaking to these issues and
- 2:32they're doing it unapologetically just
- 2:34like a voice for men we've been
- 2:36fortunate enough to I think gain a lot
- 2:38more popularity than some of the other
- 2:40sites there's a lot of traffic there a
- 2:43lot of participation but there is a
- 2:47growing awareness in many different
- 2:49places that just trying to engage in
- 2:53polite conversation with people that
- 2:56don't want to hear these issues it's
- 2:59been going on a long time we've had
- 3:02great writers out there we've had great
- 3:05activists out there that have been
- 3:06trying for years as a matter of fact the
- 3:09men's movement goes back a hundred years
- 3:11to a man named Belfort Bax people have
- 3:15been trying to address these issues for
- 3:17a long long time and just speaking about
- 3:22them in a in a culture that's
- 3:24indifferent to them doesn't make
- 3:26anything happen and like we've seen with
- 3:28every other social movement that has
- 3:30ever happened in history
- 3:32same thing with Africa African Americans
- 3:34with women even with gay activists it
- 3:38was the indignation of injustice that
- 3:41drove those movements into prominence
- 3:44that forced them into the limelight so
- 3:46people had to take a look at them just
- 3:49saying oh excuse me would you mind
- 3:51looking at the male suicide rate or
- 3:53why'd men are falling out of college has
- 3:55not resulted in anybody looking at the
- 3:57male suicide right or why men are
- 3:59falling out of college we are having to
- 4:02stand up and be counted
- 4:03about this the only difference is well
- 4:07primarily between this and the women's
- 4:09movement is that socially we were always
- 4:14geared and I know a lot of feminists are
- 4:16not gonna want to hear this but that's
- 4:18okay we were always year to want to do
- 4:21something about women's issues it's
- 4:24always been in men's mandate to help
- 4:27women if we hear a woman scream at night
- 4:31men will run to go help it's always been
- 4:33that way throughout all of human history
- 4:35men take care of women women take care
- 4:38of children that's the way it's always
- 4:39been and so when women started demanding
- 4:43rightfully so their share of employment
- 4:46of education of access to whatever this
- 4:49world has to offer for their own choices
- 4:52their own dreams many many men stepped
- 4:55up and said yeah it's time let's do this
- 4:58they helped them because that was a part
- 5:00of our human biology or sociobiology if
- 5:04you will with men the rules are
- 5:07completely reversed men are supposed to
- 5:10do for others not for themselves and so
- 5:13when men have started to speak up and
- 5:15say wait a minute
- 5:17I think we need to take a look at our
- 5:18own issues the indignation just is
- 5:21almost instantaneous and it comes from
- 5:24across the spectrum from you can find it
- 5:27in churches you can find it in
- 5:29institutions of higher education you
- 5:31find it in the halls of our government
- 5:33anywhere you go could you imagine a
- 5:37politician standing up in this country
- 5:39right now saying we need to look at
- 5:42men's rights what's happening to them
- 5:45his life expectancy as a public servant
- 5:48or her life expectancy would be about
- 5:51five minutes however you could take even
- 5:55in and it does happen sometimes
- 5:57ridiculous notions of what we need to do
- 5:59about women's issues and people stand
- 6:03there and applaud this is an imbalance
- 6:06that is deeply rooted in our culture and
- 6:11the tide the time for this has finally
- 6:14come for people to start speaking up
- 6:16about it
- 6:16and actually doing something about it
- 6:21yeah there's definitely a call to action
- 6:24what do you think the steps are to
- 6:30improve the future for men the first
- 6:33step I fully believe is for men to get
- 6:37that they're never going to get
- 6:38permission from this culture to speak up
- 6:41on their own behalf
- 6:43that's the first step and to decide to
- 6:46do it anyway that's really what a voice
- 6:48Ramon is about it is like I said a
- 6:52defiant voice this culture does not want
- 6:55to hear this stuff and we easily shame
- 6:59men when they speak up and I think
- 7:01people underestimate sometimes just how
- 7:04powerful an influence shame is in the
- 7:08lives of men and just how easy men are
- 7:10to control with it let me give you an
- 7:12example during World War one the British
- 7:17government was having problems for some
- 7:20reason - getting men to volunteer to
- 7:23cross the channel and go into the meat
- 7:25grinder over there and face the mustard
- 7:27gas and artillery shells and life in the
- 7:30mud in the blood and the trenches they
- 7:34just didn't want to go a campaign was
- 7:37started where they used women to hand
- 7:40out white feathers to men which was a
- 7:43symbol of disgrace and shame and they
- 7:47went among the population and they
- 7:49handed out these feathers to any
- 7:51able-bodied young men that were not in
- 7:53uniform as a mark that they were cowards
- 7:56and it worked
- 7:58I would ask anybody to consider how much
- 8:02power that is that's simply the fear of
- 8:06being handed a white feather by a woman
- 8:10in public would cause young men to say
- 8:14okay I'll cross the channel and I'll go
- 8:17be cannon fodder look up white feather
- 8:22campaign World War one whole history I
- 8:26was Emmeline Pankhurst was the one the
- 8:30coordinator she was one of us
- 8:32her jets she and I get the other two
- 8:38people it was a man and a woman some
- 8:40retired retired general or an admiral i
- 8:43belated and socialite decided that not
- 8:48enough young British men were were
- 8:50investing in the world his wishes to go
- 8:55fight in World War one so they came up
- 8:58with what they felt like would be the
- 9:01greatest influence and they were
- 9:02absolutely right because what they
- 9:05noticed was that young men started
- 9:06enlisting not because they had been
- 9:09handed a white feather but because they
- 9:11were afraid they were going to it was
- 9:14such a disgraceful mark to be called a
- 9:17coward as a man that literally tens of
- 9:21thousands of them died for it that is to
- 9:26me an element is one of the things that
- 9:29we do a lot as we study the dynamics of
- 9:32what actual power is a lot of people
- 9:36want to believe that okay you have a
- 9:39good job and you make a lot of money so
- 9:41that means that you're more powerful
- 9:42even though you take all that money and
- 9:45you take care of people with it other
- 9:47people and not necessarily yourself you
- 9:50may work yourself into an early grave
- 9:52doing it but it's still interpreted as
- 9:54power and we look at women as though
- 9:57they're powerless in this society and we
- 10:00don't think about the enormous power
- 10:03that women have always had with men and
- 10:05it is it is absolutely staggering the
- 10:07amount of power that women have with men
- 10:10in this culture and we see that being
- 10:12played out right now in our universities
- 10:14with Women's Studies and Gender Studies
- 10:16departments there I think it's
- 10:20particularly ironic there right now
- 10:22running white ribbon campaigns for men
- 10:26to pledge that they're not going to be
- 10:29violent to women despite the fact that
- 10:30all the research says that there's
- 10:32gender symmetry and domestic violence
- 10:34that men and women hit each other in
- 10:37relationships with roughly the same
- 10:38frequency but yet we've got this model
- 10:42that it's only men doing it and they
- 10:45have a white ribbon to hand out to men
- 10:48that is like straight out of the World
- 10:50War one textbook I think it's it's
- 10:52ironic and if it weren't so tragic it
- 10:54would be fun
- 10:56[Music]
- 11:02[Music]
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