Will BTK Dennis Rader End Up Back In Court? — Transcript

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1. 0:00foreign
2. 0:01this is the hidden Killers podcast with
3. 0:04Tony brewski with former prosecutor and
4. 0:06guest Lori Gilbertson Dennis Raider BTK
5. 0:10back in the news and back with
6. 0:13connections to several cold cases Carrie
7. 0:17Ross and his daughter tweeting out just
8. 0:18the other day that on the record they're
9. 0:21looking at about five unsolved missing
10. 0:23person cases marked possibly attributed
11. 0:26to her dad's Dennis Rader the one that's
12. 0:30being looked at very closely as of this
13. 0:32moment and looks to be most likely
14. 0:34involving Dennis's Cynthia Kinney she
15. 0:36was a 16 year old cheerleader in
16. 0:38Oklahoma who disappeared in 1976 nearly
17. 0:4350 years ago now but Dennis has archives
18. 0:46in some of his writings about bad
19. 0:48laundry day and talking about watching a
20. 0:52woman across the street at a laundromat
21. 0:55and fantasizing about her there's
22. 0:58probably several others that he has not
23. 1:00yet admitted to where do you think this
24. 1:03is going in considering Raider loves
25. 1:06attention and he's been very vocal in
26. 1:08the last half year or so since coburger
27. 1:11came out is this round three of Dennis
28. 1:14Rader are we going to be learning about
29. 1:16far more murders than we ever thought
30. 1:19possible
31. 1:20well it's so textbook right like he
32. 1:23doesn't want another serial killer
33. 1:25getting more attention than he's getting
34. 1:26yeah it yeah I think what we'll see you
35. 1:30know is more investigation of these cold
36. 1:32cases uh which is in my opinion
37. 1:35fantastic yeah you know this is why
38. 1:37there is no in a statute of limitations
39. 1:39on murder there is no time limit by
40. 1:42which these cases can be prosecuted
41. 1:45solved and prosecuted even if he is
42. 1:48doing all these life terms for
43. 1:49everything else he's done there is still
44. 1:52you know can be some justice out there
45. 1:54for these victims and as a prosecutor
46. 1:56and just as a human being I think that's
47. 1:58a really beautiful thing and they are it
48. 2:02is just chilling to hear in his own
49. 2:06words
50. 2:07how he was planning you know one of
51. 2:10these projects as he called them and
52. 2:12ever since I read about this bad laundry
53. 2:15day has been in my head and that just is
54. 2:18so chilling so it really is it's
55. 2:22wonderful that his you know certainly
56. 2:24that his daughter is cooperating and
57. 2:25providing information it's great that
58. 2:27the police departments are continuing to
59. 2:30investigate these decades old cases uh
60. 2:33and that there can be some justice and
61. 2:35really just some closure on it whether
62. 2:38he gets more time whether anything is
63. 2:40ever tried at least some unanswered
64. 2:43questions can be answered and there can
65. 2:45be some sort of accountability and
66. 2:47closure what I would hate to see is kind
67. 2:50of what you mentioned you know here's
68. 2:52this guy who now can be in the news
69. 2:54again and he can kind of have some fun
70. 2:57with this and get some publicity and
71. 2:59reopen all those Old Wounds and I really
72. 3:02hope there's some you know ways of that
73. 3:05kind of coverage where he does not get
74. 3:08to have his voice out there again in any
75. 3:11other way besides the really
76. 3:14confessional way that they are in these
77. 3:16old journals well I know and that is
78. 3:18what I hope they are they're they've
79. 3:21thrown out immunity out there too and
80. 3:22like just admit it if you did this and
81. 3:25he's denying it he's sitting there
82. 3:26saying no I did not do this despite the
83. 3:29creepiness and in the beginning of games
84. 3:32I would say uh of what he was playing
85. 3:34with Sheriff Eddie Bearden who visited
86. 3:36him before Eddie even got into talking
87. 3:39about why he was visiting Dennis Raider
88. 3:42Raider opened up about his fantasy of a
89. 3:46laundromat and a girl and waiting until
90. 3:48she was gone and he'd go in with a ruse
91. 3:50and get her in his vehicle and then have
92. 3:52his way and kill her and then he found
93. 3:54out that they were looking into him for
94. 3:56that exact same crime uh that doesn't
95. 3:59seem to be I mean that seems to be far
96. 4:02too much of a coincidence and a game
97. 4:03that Dennis is playing than it is just
98. 4:06by chance that he happens to have this
99. 4:08fantasy and that's what they're looking
100. 4:09into based on his writings it really
101. 4:12does make you wonder
102. 4:14even if he did do this and yes he has
103. 4:17admitted to the past of other ones does
104. 4:19he want to admit to this or is you know
105. 4:22he's 78 years old he's starting to get
106. 4:24into frailer conditions his mind
107. 4:27apparently pretty good but his body's
108. 4:29starting to not be in the greatest shape
109. 4:31is this something he's going to ride out
110. 4:33into a courtroom and have that
111. 4:34experience because round one he was he
112. 4:37admitted guilt to all of them at this
113. 4:39time around it doesn't necessarily have
114. 4:41to and it would certainly get him a lot
115. 4:43of attention and get him out of that
116. 4:45cell
117. 4:46yeah wouldn't it and here we are talking
118. 4:48about him exactly I know he is back in
119. 4:51the news so yeah I mean you know we talk
120. 4:54somewhat this whole time about just what
121. 4:57is in the minds of people like co-worker
122. 4:59or human or freighter here and it's
123. 5:02tough to tell but there are some things
124. 5:05that are pretty Universal and one of
125. 5:08them is this kind of attention seeking
126. 5:10and if this like you said this is gonna
127. 5:11maybe get him some attention when things
128. 5:13might be a little boring serving all
129. 5:15those life terms and he can get a visit
130. 5:17from a sheriff where he gets to recount
131. 5:19these fantasies where he can maybe get
132. 5:21some time in a court and get to hear
133. 5:23about all of this you know that might be
134. 5:25kind of interesting and a bit of a
135. 5:28change of pace for the 78 year old so it
136. 5:32it could be all games it really could be
137. 5:34just because he admitted all these
138. 5:36things before it doesn't necessarily
139. 5:38mean he wants to now and I think we're
140. 5:40gonna have to just wait and see you know
141. 5:43with all of these five cases especially
142. 5:45the one in the laundromat as as you've
143. 5:46mentioned what kind of evidence comes
144. 5:49out and what kind what other kind of
145. 5:51ties there are from maybe anything
146. 5:53forensically any other Witnesses
147. 5:55possibly all of kind of the confessional
148. 5:58writings and we'll see where the
149. 5:59investigation goes with it you're
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