Why Your Sales Script Keeps Getting Worse — Transcript
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- 0:00I sell lawn fertilization weed control
- 0:03to Indianapolis homeowners.
- 0:06>> Dude, how did you win the affiliate
- 0:07contest?
- 0:08>> I texted
- 0:09>> got all the homeowners? You were like,
- 0:11"Let's go. Buy some books, baby."
- 0:13>> No, I didn't text any clients. It was
- 0:14all just friends.
- 0:15>> Dude, I appreciate it, man. Thanks for
- 0:17promoting it.
- 0:18>> Um
- 0:19if we do uh we'll probably end between
- 0:211.5 and 2 million this year.
- 0:23>> Okay.
- 0:23>> Um I'd like to
- 0:25be at five before I decide what I want
- 0:27to do after that.
- 0:28>> sell B2B to like who do you sell to lawn
- 0:30care or what?
- 0:30>> Primarily homeowners, 90 90% are
- 0:32residential. Um we have a few affiliate
- 0:35situations.
- 0:36>> E-commerce or like in-person local?
- 0:39>> It's all local. We fertilize lawns.
- 0:41>> Got it. You do that, too. My bad. I I
- 0:43thought you were just selling the
- 0:44fertilizer, not the services. Okay,
- 0:45understood.
- 0:46>> So
- 0:48we're primarily dealing with homeowners.
- 0:50Um
- 0:51I feel like what's our main constraint
- 0:52is just I mean, sales and marketing. We
- 0:54have a good product, good service. We
- 0:57don't have
- 0:57>> What's revenue retention?
- 0:59>> We uh
- 1:01the way I track it, we retain about 75%.
- 1:06Um we have a service in the fall that's
- 1:09kind of a one-off service, and so
- 1:11those people churn at a higher rate, and
- 1:14I don't have those numbers separated.
- 1:15>> Okay.
- 1:16Um
- 1:18Okay, so you
- 1:21>> Um can you handle more customers
- 1:25now?
- 1:26>> Yeah. Yeah, I um
- 1:29I've been here like three times in the
- 1:30last 3 months, so I feel like I kind of
- 1:32know what I need to do. I just got to do
- 1:33it.
- 1:34Uh but big part of what I'm trying to
- 1:37work on over the winter, our big sales
- 1:39season is spring, and so developing a
- 1:42more standardized sales motion. We have
- 1:43one rep who has a ton of experience in
- 1:46the industry, but he doesn't follow
- 1:48anything. He just sells. We give him the
- 1:50leads, and he closes.
- 1:52Decent percentage, 40 45%, but we don't
- 1:55to know what's good about what he does.
- 1:58And so, I need to develop sales script
- 2:00and stuff like that. I don't necessarily
- 2:01know where to start when it comes to
- 2:03building a system, especially cuz this
- 2:04guy is not super
- 2:06good with change.
- 2:10>> So, that's all right. You have an
- 2:11all-star salesperson. The best sales
- 2:12people are basically terrible everything
- 2:14but selling.
- 2:16>> Hello. There we go. Um so, that's okay
- 2:19and normal to be expected. The best way
- 2:21to do it is to observe it the same way
- 2:23that I was describing earlier, I think
- 2:25it's to Anders, um about how to teach.
- 2:28And so, you would literally just look at
- 2:30him as though you were an autist and
- 2:32say, "What does this person do?" And
- 2:34just literally observe them like you
- 2:36were a court reporter, so you can't put
- 2:37any emotion or any judgment on it. It's
- 2:39just what are the things this person
- 2:40does and what are the things they say.
- 2:42And then, their voice goes up here, they
- 2:44pause here. And the more quantified you
- 2:46can make that, the more you can drill it
- 2:47and train it. And the big thing with
- 2:49sales training that I think
- 2:51the vast majority of businesses
- 2:52underestimate is just how much training
- 2:54is required to make a truly world-class
- 2:56team. I think 90 So, everybody who has
- 2:58the sales handbook can kind of get You
- 3:00guys have my schedule for how we onboard
- 3:02and how we train. And I think for many
- 3:03people that's a big belief breaker. It's
- 3:05hard for people to comprehend exactly
- 3:07how much we train at acquisition.com.
- 3:08It's a shitload. Um and so, to give
- 3:10context on that, our sales team trains
- 3:13every single day.
- 3:14Every day. And they all role play every
- 3:16single day. And every week, they have a
- 3:18one-on-one with game tape with their
- 3:19manager of what they specifically need
- 3:21to work on. And
- 3:23like that muscle, and like do you know
- 3:26how to train like do you know how to
- 3:27train a salesperson?
- 3:29>> Um I would say no.
- 3:31>> Okay. So, you train sales people through
- 3:34like role playing until your eyes bleed.
- 3:36Cuz fundamentally, it's the fastest
- 3:38feedback loop that you can give someone
- 3:39in terms of training anything. So, they
- 3:41say something and so, the way that we
- 3:42train is number one is you have to
- 3:44memorize a script. And so, the way you
- 3:46memorize a script is you put the script
- 3:47in front of someone, they print out a
- 3:48second script, and then they read the
- 3:50script out loud, and then they black out
- 3:52one of the words, and they read it
- 3:53again, and they block out another word,
- 3:54and they read it again. And by the time
- 3:56you blocked out every single word,
- 3:57you've said the script for as many times
- 3:58as there are words in the script, and
- 4:00you tend to [ __ ] know it. And so,
- 4:02then you're staring at an entirely
- 4:03blacked-out page saying the entire
- 4:04script. That's how you memorize a
- 4:06script. Once you can breathe the script,
- 4:08which is what we call it, once you can
- 4:10breathe the script, then we practice the
- 4:12role-playing component, um which is us
- 4:15going back and forth. And so, when
- 4:16you're reading the script with someone,
- 4:17we have a hand-up with heads nodding,
- 4:20and the first time someone's going to go
- 4:21through a script, we're going to say,
- 4:22"Hey, just to be clear, we're going to
- 4:23interrupt you probably like 50 or 60
- 4:24times by the time you get to the end of
- 4:25it. That's okay. The worst way that do
- 4:28people do role-playing is that someone
- 4:30they go through a whole role-play or
- 4:31someone just says the script. That's the
- 4:33worst way. The second worst way is that
- 4:34you go through it and we quote
- 4:35role-play, and at the end, the guy says,
- 4:37"All right, so, you know, at the
- 4:39beginning, you could have done this a
- 4:40little bit different, and, you know,
- 4:41kind of said this a little bit bad at
- 4:43the end, and you probably should have
- 4:44offered it like this." No one's going to
- 4:45remember that. It doesn't matter. It's
- 4:47way too late. The reason that
- 4:48superstition happens is because you
- 4:50change something, and then you
- 4:51immediately get feedback. And so, once
- 4:53someone does it, we call it locking it
- 4:54in. So, it's like they mess something
- 4:56up, we say, "Hey, stop. Try it like
- 4:58this. Do it again." They do it. If they
- 5:00get it right, we say, "Great. Lock it
- 5:02in." That means do it again. Do it
- 5:03again. Do it again. Keep going. And so,
- 5:05that's how we drill the script so that
- 5:07every person delivers the script the
- 5:08same way. The vast majority of sales
- 5:10teams have a script. It's loose. No one
- 5:13really pays attention to it. And the way
- 5:15that they recruit sales people is that
- 5:16they just hire a bunch, see who sticks,
- 5:18and then let the rest go.
- 5:20Exceptional sales orgs, which I consider
- 5:22us to be, can take anyone to be a
- 5:25savage.
- 5:27It's just a question of how much effort
- 5:28we're willing to put into somebody. As
- 5:30long as you know how to train the skill
- 5:32of sales, which ski- sales is so
- 5:33trainable as a skill,
- 5:35um that's the feedback loop that has to
- 5:37get created. So, the first step for you
- 5:38is we have to observe the salesman, and
- 5:40then we have to document the words they
- 5:41say and what they do.
- 5:44Once we have that, that becomes the
- 5:45basis for the memorization, and then the
- 5:47role-playing becomes making sure they
- 5:48execute that. And I always want
- 5:50adherence above everything. So, we are
- 5:52like the New England Patriots in terms
- 5:54of how we run the sales team, which is
- 5:55the process is above everyone. No one's
- 5:56better than the process. And the way we
- 5:58position that is like thousands of sales
- 6:00calls, thousands of hours have gone into
- 6:02like men died and gave their lives to
- 6:04give us this script. You were not better
- 6:06than the script. And so, you say the
- 6:08script because you know these words
- 6:09close people, period.
- 6:11And that's the approach that we have,
- 6:12and that's the deference that we give to
- 6:14the process. And so, if you have a star
- 6:16salesperson, one of the difficult parts
- 6:17is that that person tends to be a
- 6:18cowboy.
- 6:19Right? Does whatever he wants as long as
- 6:21he closes deals. That is a cultural
- 6:22issue. It will be a cancer
- 6:24long term if he's a prima donna.
- 6:26And so,
- 6:28most of the time, I would rather have a
- 6:29team of all eights closing on a 10 out
- 6:32of 10 process, and that team will always
- 6:34outperform a team that has one star and
- 6:35no process.
- 6:38Okay.
- 6:38>> Um so, from a logistical perspective,
- 6:42making the script,
- 6:44do I do that with him if he's not like
- 6:48following a script?
- 6:49>> He is following a script. He just
- 6:51doesn't know what it is.
- 6:51>> Okay. So, we I should work with him
- 6:54together.
- 6:54>> There are certain types of words that he
- 6:55says in a specific order to get people
- 6:57to buy.
- 6:58>> Mhm.
- 6:58>> If you observe 10 of his conversations,
- 7:00you'll get 80% of them. And then, what
- 7:02most sales people who are like him do is
- 7:04they add too many words.
- 7:06>> Yeah.
- 7:07>> And so, people get cute. And so, they'll
- 7:09add stuff. And so, most of the times
- 7:10when you create a script, you want to
- 7:12eliminate as many words as humanly
- 7:13possible. And so, if we go into an
- 7:15organization to fix the sales process,
- 7:16typically we'll cut the script in half
- 7:18or more because there's so much extra
- 7:19stuff. It's the sneezing, it's the I got
- 7:21to touch the plate in all four places
- 7:23before I hit the ball. There's tons of
- 7:24superstition that's woven into the
- 7:25script because they don't know and it
- 7:26worked one time, so they keep doing it,
- 7:28and the script just gets longer and
- 7:29longer and longer, not more effective.
- 7:32>> Yeah.
- 7:34Um
- 7:36So, um we I mean, we only sell the
- 7:40majority of our services in call it
- 7:42March, April, May.
- 7:43>> Can I just walk you Do you have the
- 7:44sales uh handbook?
- 7:45>> I Is it the ACQ closer one? Yeah, I have
- 7:49that. I
- 7:50read through it. Yeah.
- 7:51>> Okay.
- 7:53Yeah.
- 7:54>> Model that each There's model that
- 7:56script.
- 7:57>> Yeah.
- 7:58>> Like there's an intro, there's a disco,
- 7:59there's recaps, there's offer, there's
- 8:02the rest of pieces there. Like just
- 8:03model the script.
- 8:04>> Yeah, I've been doing that for our
- 8:05Christmas lights for what was what we're
- 8:07selling right now.
- 8:08>> Is it working?
- 8:09>> Um well, we're just starting, so
- 8:12I can't tell you that.
- 8:13>> hasn't really come yet. Yeah, yeah.
- 8:15Okay.
- 8:15>> Um the last question, when it comes to
- 8:18uh the training stuff, you know, you
- 8:19said you do it every day.
- 8:21If that's something that I can stand
- 8:23here and say is my biggest constraint
- 8:24and I need to do it every day, I should
- 8:25just do it. But if I also say that it's
- 8:28not in my capacity,
- 8:30is that something that if I
- 8:33>> you from it being
- 8:35done?
- 8:36>> Yeah. Is there If I were to have another
- 8:38rep, could I just have the two of those
- 8:40guys do it every day together, or do I
- 8:42need to be in there every day if I'm not
- 8:43even necessarily a sales guy?
- 8:45Like I'm not even good at necessarily
- 8:46sales.
- 8:47>> you not being a sales guy doesn't
- 8:48necessarily mean that you wouldn't be
- 8:49able to document the sales process well.
- 8:51>> Sure.
- 8:52>> In some ways it might actually make you
- 8:53better.
- 8:54>> Okay.
- 8:55>> So I would just not like let that like
- 8:56cloud your judgment around it too much.
- 8:58>> So I should still try and be there in
- 8:59every meeting then.
- 9:00>> understanding like there's core elements
- 9:02of a business, like understanding how
- 9:04revenue comes in, like how are leads
- 9:06generated, how are they converted, and
- 9:07how do we deliver are the core elements
- 9:08of every business. And so like I believe
- 9:10the owner should know how to do all
- 9:11these things.
- 9:13>> Okay.
- 9:13>> Because there will get to a point where
- 9:14like play it out. The sales guy So where
- 9:18is where is where is my pest control?
- 9:20There you are. See, like he'll just go
- 9:22and just start his own thing, and then
- 9:24you'll be screwed.
- 9:25>> Yeah.
- 9:26>> [snorts]
- 9:26>> Yeah.
- 9:27>> So talk about key man risk. It's like
- 9:29how do we make sure that this business
- 9:30can, you know, sustain and thrive? Make
- 9:32sure you know the sales process.
- 9:33>> Yeah, I I was spending all my time
- 9:35marketing trying to acquire as many
- 9:37leads as possible and my fear is that
- 9:39once we overcome what he's capable of
- 9:41doing that the next guy won't be able to
- 9:43replicate it essentially.
- 9:48>> [laughter]
- 9:59>> Mhm.
- 10:06Cool. So just develop a standardized
- 10:09sales motion.
- 10:12Yeah.
- 10:13Thanks.
- 10:20>> [applause]
- 10:23>> If you were the best salesperson in your
- 10:25company, then your company will be
- 10:27always capped by you. And this is what
- 10:30the two-day workshop is for. Now to be
- 10:31clear before I get into what it is, this
- 10:33is for million-dollar plus businesses
- 10:35that are trying to scale their sales
- 10:37team where you are still probably vast
- 10:39majority of the magic. Either you're
- 10:40literally taking calls or you are a big
- 10:42percentage of the revenue or you have to
- 10:44be constantly on the sales team in order
- 10:46to get this to work. If you're in any of
- 10:47those settings, then this is absolutely
- 10:49for you. And so if you are tired of your
- 10:51sales relying on you and want a sales
- 10:53system that scales beyond you, then
- 10:55apply. That's the deal. And so if it is
- 10:57a fit, we look forward to seeing you out
- 10:58here and it's a great time. We'll talk
- 11:00about sales stuff. Like how could you
- 11:01have a better time? Don't take my word
- 11:02for it. Here's what other people are
- 11:03saying about our workshops. They're
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- 11:07out there.
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