Why This $500 Offer May Beat the Agency Model — Transcript
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- 0:00Hi Alex, my name is Nate Friedman. I
- 0:01sell marketing to MSPs, which is
- 0:04basically a local IT support company.
- 0:07>> Right.
- 0:07>> Uh we do about uh 300,000 a month in
- 0:12recurring revenue. We'd like to be at 10
- 0:15million annual revenue.
- 0:16>> Mhm.
- 0:17>> Um
- 0:18we're right now we're built the company
- 0:21as an agency and we had good
- 0:24year-over-year growth until we got kind
- 0:26of past 2 million, 2 and 1/2 million,
- 0:28things started slowing down. More things
- 0:30started breaking, required a lot of
- 0:32human resources.
- 0:34>> Um about a year ago, we
- 0:38launched a lower ticket offer towards
- 0:40emerging MSPs, IT guys that just wake up
- 0:43one day and want to start an MSP.
- 0:46>> Mhm.
- 0:46>> Um we're doing their website in
- 0:48HighLevel, doing a HighLevel offer for
- 0:50them, charging about $500 a month.
- 0:53>> Right.
- 0:53>> That's been getting good
- 0:55we added 60 in the first year. We're now
- 0:57at like five a week, um pretty
- 0:59consistently.
- 1:01>> What's the stick?
- 1:03>> Their website is built into HighLevel.
- 1:05>> Let me say differently. What's what's uh
- 1:07annual revenue retention or monthly
- 1:09churn if you have either of those?
- 1:11>> It's um
- 1:12with the agency, it's about 2.5% monthly
- 1:15churn.
- 1:15>> Okay.
- 1:16>> With the low ticket guys, it's like 1%.
- 1:19>> Interesting.
- 1:20>> Yeah.
- 1:20>> Okay.
- 1:22Okay. So, what's the decision?
- 1:25>> Kind of like what a lot of the people
- 1:27have asked already is like am I just
- 1:30doing something new because I'm facing
- 1:32friction in the agency model?
- 1:34>> [laughter]
- 1:34>> are.
- 1:35>> Yeah.
- 1:37>> Well, so
- 1:42what are the gross margins on the $500 a
- 1:44month thing after you set it up?
- 1:46>> 75%.
- 1:48>> Huh.
- 1:49What's the other 25 go to?
- 1:51>> Uh we add a little bit of extras in like
- 1:53live chat agent, uh unlimited website
- 1:55tickets, things like that.
- 2:00>> Could you 100X that?
- 2:02>> I think so, yes.
- 2:04>> How many agents do you have to How many
- 2:06customers do you have You said you have
- 2:07um
- 2:08the 60? Is that what you said?
- 2:09>> We have 60 on the low-ticket offering.
- 2:11>> Currently. How many reps do you have to
- 2:12service the 60?
- 2:14>> It's done through a partner, so we pay
- 2:15$5 uh per chat and then $35 a month base
- 2:19fee for that.
- 2:22>> $5 per chat. Okay, that's for the 75%
- 2:26margins. Okay.
- 2:27Um so, you really just need to have a
- 2:29sales machine to set this You just do
- 2:30the setup and then you hand it off, more
- 2:32or less.
- 2:33>> We do a little bit of onboarding, but
- 2:34after that, yeah.
- 2:35>> Yeah.
- 2:36Um
- 2:38Hmm.
- 2:40And how do you get customers right now?
- 2:42>> We word of mouth, Google Ads, SEO, but
- 2:46now we just started for the first time
- 2:47we're having success with Meta Ads.
- 2:52>> Uh and I'm guessing a lot of the people
- 2:53coming in are the the $500
- 2:55>> Yeah, exactly.
- 2:56>> Okay.
- 2:57Well,
- 3:01I I don't normally say this, but
- 3:03I actually like the low-ticket thing
- 3:05better.
- 3:06>> Yeah.
- 3:06>> Main reason, so this is not common. Uh
- 3:09the fact that you have one you have
- 3:10lower churn on that and I'll bet you
- 3:12have higher gross margins on that than
- 3:13you do on the core service.
- 3:15>> Yes.
- 3:15>> And so,
- 3:17I actually do think it's a better
- 3:18business. I don't normally say that, but
- 3:20I think just for a lot of reasons like
- 3:21there's a lot more of them. You have
- 3:23higher gross margins and if we needed to
- 3:25just say, "Cool, let's just 10X band."
- 3:27And you go from five a week to
- 3:29How many could you take a week max right
- 3:30now?
- 3:32>> Right now, I would be testing it, but I
- 3:34think I could get to 10 and then I could
- 3:35expand pretty quickly.
- 3:37>> Yeah. So, I mean, even if you signed up
- 3:39500 a year, right? Uh that's 250 a
- 3:42month. So, you're adding 3 million per
- 3:44year
- 3:45>> Yeah.
- 3:45>> uh to ARR and that's a super high value
- 3:48enterprise value business.
- 3:49>> Yeah.
- 3:50>> Cuz it's sticky, right? So, 1% per month
- 3:52is like you're you're you're you're
- 3:53retaining 9% plus. Not 90%, 85,
- 3:56whatever, percent plus annually, which
- 3:57is pretty good. Especially with a with a
- 3:59with a an avatar that there's so many
- 4:01of.
- 4:01>> Yes.
- 4:02>> Uh which is really really outstanding.
- 4:04It's like a prosumer avatar. No, like
- 4:06those are really good numbers for
- 4:07prosumers. Um and so, I would yeah, I
- 4:09would strongly consider
- 4:11uh making the pivot. I don't normally
- 4:13say this, but I actually think that for
- 4:14your business it does make sense.
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- 4:34uh enjoy.
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