Why Small Business Owners Always Undercharge — Transcript
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- 0:00gross margins. So, gross margins are
- 0:03wildly misunderstood, which is
- 0:04interesting. Um,
- 0:08if you are if you are a business owner,
- 0:10you you have to learn the language of
- 0:12business. All right? It is it is for
- 0:14sure. There there are different
- 0:15languages, but there's there's not a
- 0:17huge amount of words that you have to
- 0:18know. You might need to know like a
- 0:20hundred terms. And think about this as
- 0:22like you were studying for a test,
- 0:23right? Like learning a 100 terms, not
- 0:26that hard to understand. And it almost
- 0:27all of them are relationships between
- 0:29two things. That's what almost all of
- 0:31these terms are. So what is gross
- 0:32margin? It's one word that's a
- 0:34relationship between two things. How
- 0:35much you charge and how much it costs
- 0:37you to deliver the thing. And the
- 0:39difference between those things is your
- 0:41gross margin. To be clear, that's not
- 0:42your net profit margin, which is a
- 0:45different ratio, right? Between two, not
- 0:47necessarily ratio, but the difference
- 0:48between two different numbers, right?
- 0:49But your gross margins are very
- 0:51important because it is what dictates
- 0:52everything else in the business. So what
- 0:54do I mean by that?
- 0:56If you like your net margins cannot
- 0:59exceed your gross margins. Think about
- 1:02that for a moment. If you have if you're
- 1:04like, "Man, I'd love to run a 50% net
- 1:06margin business." That's an amazing goal
- 1:08and I love that goal for you. If your
- 1:10gross margins are 50%, that means that
- 1:12you can have literally no other cost
- 1:14besides the thing you sell in the entire
- 1:16business. You can't have any cost of
- 1:17acquiring customers. You can't have any
- 1:19fixed overhead. You can't have any
- 1:21employees that are not specifically in
- 1:22delivery. You can't have any admin, any
- 1:24help. Of course, now the likelihood of
- 1:26of you getting to a 50% margin when you
- 1:29have 50% gross margins is basically
- 1:31zero. And so this is why and and
- 1:34traditionally small business owners will
- 1:36undercharge because they sell out of
- 1:37their own wallet, right? And they sell
- 1:39out of their own wallet in two different
- 1:40ways. They sell out of their own wallet
- 1:42because they don't have that much money
- 1:45and so they feel bad charging other
- 1:47people when they don't have much money
- 1:48because they're like, "Man, I get what
- 1:49it's like to struggle." And I think
- 1:50there's nothing wrong with that. is just
- 1:51understand the business is not going to
- 1:52grow and you're not going to help more
- 1:53people. The other reason they sell to
- 1:55their own wallet is that they believe
- 1:57that the service they deliver is not
- 2:00that valuable because they know how to
- 2:01do it. So to quote the joker, right? My
- 2:05father always told me when you're good
- 2:07at something, never do it for free,
- 2:09right? And so the idea is that like you
- 2:13I like if you're good at fixing cars,
- 2:16right, you're like well it comes
- 2:17naturally. It's not that hard. You got
- 2:18to know where the, you know, it's like
- 2:19it's what we do is really
- 2:20straightforward to you. To you. But to a
- 2:24customer, we have to sell off the value
- 2:27of what their life would be like if they
- 2:28didn't have this problem solved. That is
- 2:30what we have to charge off of. And when
- 2:32we charge off of those prices, then we
- 2:34create more opportunity for gross
- 2:36margin. Now, here's why this is so
- 2:38important. Let me give you a math
- 2:40example that will blow your minds. And I
- 2:42always, you know, everyone everyone gets
- 2:44harpotations when I say math. So, let's
- 2:46just say a money example. Okay. So,
- 2:48let's give you a money example that'll
- 2:50get you really happy. All right. So,
- 2:52let's say that I've got some service
- 2:54that I that I deliver, okay? And it
- 2:56costs me a hundred bucks a month. Okay.
- 2:58That's what it cost me in services and
- 3:00whatever. All right. So, if I want to
- 3:02have
- 3:0480% gross margins, which I said these
- 3:06are rules of thumb. My rule of thumb for
- 3:08services is at least 80. Okay? So, I
- 3:11want to show you two different scenarios
- 3:13here. So at 80%
- 3:17at 80% this $100 I have to have $500 has
- 3:23to be my price. Okay. At 70%
- 3:27and I have a $100 cost. Oh god. Can
- 3:30someone do the math on this one?
- 3:35Hold on.
- 3:40Um
- 3:41God I got to do this backwards. Let's
- 3:43see.
- 3:47There's a there's a C. Who can do this
- 3:49math for me? 350ish. Thanks, Leo.
- 3:51[laughter]
- 3:53Yes, this is live. Obviously,
- 3:56I think it's a little higher than that.
- 3:57Is it 400 350? Is it now? Now, now it's
- 4:01all up. Who's Who can do this
- 4:03math for me?
- 4:05All right, I got to do this. All right.
- 4:08100 equals.7.
- 4:10Julian, you were premed. Do it for me.
- 4:14or I'll tell you what [laughter] I'll
- 4:17tell you what 90% looks like
- 4:21[laughter]
- 4:24equals $1,000. [laughter]
- 4:27All right, where is it? Where where we
- 4:29at? Why you jackasses keep asking? Thank
- 4:32you. Gross salons.
- 4:34Is it 350? Is that it? We should We
- 4:38should know this. I feel like as a
- 4:39collective community we should be able
- 4:41to figure out when uh 30% okay so it
- 4:45should be 100 divided by.3 is what it
- 4:46should be so 100 divided by.3 right
- 4:51is 333 thank you so that would mean that
- 4:54233 should be 70%. Um,
- 4:58so 233 divided by 333,
- 5:01correct? Thank you. Okay, so 333.
- 5:06Okay, so look at how big of a difference
- 5:08this is, right, between these between
- 5:10these numbers. Um, really significant,
- 5:13right? Like very materially different.
- 5:16And so the reason, and I'm sure somebody
- 5:17will correct this in post, but
- 5:18fundamentally, look at how like when
- 5:21people are like, "Oh, well my my margins
- 5:22are at 60%, so I'm close to 80." It's
- 5:25like, bro, we're not even like, you're
- 5:26in a different stratosphere. Okay, so
- 5:29let's take this to the natural end.
- 5:32If you have a business, let's say that
- 5:34runs 20% margins at net margins at the
- 5:37end of the year, what you can pay
- 5:38yourself, right? If we say, hey, is
- 5:41there a way you think we could go from
- 5:4270% to 90%. Well, that that sounds like
- 5:45it's not that big of a deal. But when
- 5:47you go from 70 to 90, what happens to
- 5:49the actual margin?
- 5:51You double. You make way more money.
- 5:54And sometimes it means a lot more than
- 5:56that because sometimes the incremental
- 5:57margin is all margin whereas every
- 5:58dollar of revenue up to that point
- 6:00covered cost, right? And so what is our
- 6:05we make $233 here, right? We make $400
- 6:09here and we make $900 here per customer.
- 6:13Big difference, right? And so when
- 6:15people hear these numbers, because these
- 6:17numbers look similar, they think that
- 6:19these are going to be very similar and
- 6:21they are not.
- 6:22And so this is why I'm so adamant that
- 6:2580% is my minimum. I target like that's
- 6:28my baseline. And then from like I will
- 6:30not get into a business with less than
- 6:3180% gross margins. I won't do it because
- 6:34I know that I then have to run
- 6:36everything else off of this 80. Right?
- 6:38So if I want to have a 50% net margin
- 6:40business, I only have 30% left. I got
- 6:4430% to cover everything else. I got to
- 6:46cover rent. I got to cover admin. I got
- 6:47to cover insurance. I got to cover um I
- 6:50got to cover uh marketing. I cover
- 6:51sales. I got to cover everything else
- 6:53with just this 30% so I can have 50%
- 6:55left over.
- 6:58Is this is this ringing? Is this ringing
- 6:59with you guys? Is this making sense?
- 7:02Even if it's a service based business,
- 7:04bro, this is for service- based
- 7:05businesses, not DN Australia. This is
- 7:08for service- based businesses.
- 7:14And this may this is why like
- 7:17so ideally I like to have I mean again
- 7:20this is minimum and I know this is going
- 7:22to blow your minds here like I like one
- 7:25of the first things we did when we fixed
- 7:27gyms is we made sure the pricing was at
- 7:29least 80% gross margins.
- 7:33That's a service business. Now some of
- 7:37you are like well there that's not
- 7:38possible. Of course it's possible. It's
- 7:40not possible when you sell a commodity.
- 7:43If a customer can look at your thing and
- 7:45somebody down the street's thing and
- 7:47say, "These are about the same. I'll buy
- 7:49the cheaper one." You sell a
- 7:50commoditized service just like you can
- 7:52sell a commoditized product. And so you
- 7:54might have salt and salt and you got FSG
- 7:57salt and whatever, you know, pink
- 7:58Himalayan. It's salt, right? And so how
- 8:01do we make these two things different?
- 8:03We have to brand. It's pink Himalayan
- 8:05versus just normal salt, right? And they
- 8:07charge a premium for that. And so you
- 8:09have to figure out how to reconfigure.
- 8:11If only there were a book written about
- 8:13how to make an offer that's
- 8:14decommoditized so that you could achieve
- 8:1680% or higher gross margins, that would
- 8:18be amazing, wouldn't it? And for those
- 8:20of you who don't know, I wrote a book on
- 8:21this. It's called $100 million offers.
- 8:2327,000 five star reviews. You should
- 8:25read it. But I I want to draw this
- 8:26because this like if you're trying to
- 8:29figure out what's wrong with your
- 8:30business, it's usually because your
- 8:31margins are off. You're mispriced. But
- 8:34again, sometimes this is this is the
- 8:36this is the fundamental mathematical
- 8:38problem with the business. But this
- 8:40might really be the symptom of the fact
- 8:41that you have a commoditized offer. A B
- 8:44you have a sales process that doesn't
- 8:46function properly, right? Um, and so
- 8:50that's the that's the big idea. So if
- 8:51you want to run a high margin business,
- 8:53then you have to run exceptionally high
- 8:54gross margins for whatever it is that
- 8:56you sell. Okay, cool. That math was
- 8:58tough, wasn't it? All right, so let's do
- 9:01rule number eight. Rule of thumb number
- 9:03eight, if you will. Uh, 30-day cash
- 9:05collected. So, this is a this is an
- 9:08add-on to the the the 30-day payback
- 9:11period. So,
- 9:13what is the exact amount of money that I
- 9:15want to have collected within that 30
- 9:17days? It's going to be COG. So, the cost
- 9:19of delivering cost of goods sold. I'll
- 9:22just write out cost of goods
- 9:25sold. Now, the goods sold can be
- 9:27services too to be clear. So it's cost
- 9:29of goods sold how much it cost you for
- 9:30the stuff plus cost of getting
- 9:37customer.
- 9:39Okay. So if we have the cost of getting
- 9:41the customer and the cost of whatever we
- 9:43got them back, we want both those things
- 9:46together.
- 9:48We want whatever we collect to be
- 9:50greater
- 10:00We want the gross profit or the cash we
- 10:02collect in that first 30 days to be
- 10:03greater than this plus this.
- 10:06The reason this is so magical is that
- 10:08once this occurs,
- 10:11customer comes in, you acquire that
- 10:13customer and then you have to deliver on
- 10:15that customer. And then that customer
- 10:17pays you back all of that cost and then
- 10:19what can you do?
- 10:21Go get you another customer.
- 10:23That is why it's so magical. And so that
- 10:25is what the whole point of this 30-day
- 10:27cash collect thing is. We want to pull
- 10:28it forward.
- 10:30Cool.
- 10:32Great. Now, manufacturing study with
- 10:34Zoro. No. Manufacturing, you're going to
- 10:36have different margins because you have
- 10:37cost of goods sold and that's going to
- 10:38be a little different. Um I would to be
- 10:40fair, I would still prefer to have a
- 10:42business that has 80% gross margins. But
- 10:44with services, for human services, um I
- 10:47I have that as my rule of thumb is that
- 10:49I always want 80% or higher gross
- 10:51margins. Okay. If you like this video
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- 11:11enjoy.
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