Why No Black Country Will Ever Develop — Transcript
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- 0:00Welcome back, Troy. I've got another one
- 0:01here from Frank Zanu, and this one's
- 0:04titled, "No black country will ever
- 0:06develop."
- 0:07>> Let me ask you, the 63 black countries
- 0:10in the world. Do you know any black
- 0:11country where the people who live in it
- 0:13founded it?
- 0:15By founding, I mean a group of people
- 0:18like the Euroba Kingdom moving around
- 0:20and came upon a land that is fertile,
- 0:22has what they want, and they settled
- 0:23there. Even if they have to kill the
- 0:25indigenous and steal their women, they
- 0:27did, and they made it into a republic.
- 0:29Is there such a thing on earth? A place,
- 0:32a country where the blacks who live in
- 0:33it were the ones who founded it.
- 0:37The Caribbean, the 13 black countries,
- 0:39Africa has 54 of them.
- 0:41>> Put together the largest race on earth
- 0:43by a number of countries. Which black
- 0:45country do you know where the people who
- 0:47live in it founded it?
- 0:51>> I just know one that was
- 0:52>> Who founded Ghana?
- 0:53>> Which Ghanaian founded Ghana?
- 0:56>> Kroma.
- 0:57>> No.
- 0:57>> No. British founded Ghana and gave it to
- 1:00him when he was complaining too much he
- 1:01needs independence.
- 1:02>> But that was that was
- 1:03>> who founded Nigeria which
- 1:05>> I actually do not know.
- 1:06>> That's correct because no Nigerian
- 1:08founded Nigeria. The Benin Kingdom
- 1:10founded Benin Kingdom. Oduda founded the
- 1:12Euroba.
- 1:14>> You understand what I'm saying?
- 1:16>> But I'm talking about Nigeria.
- 1:18>> But I see what you're saying. Okay. What
- 1:21about um like Ethiopia?
- 1:24>> A country that was never colonized.
- 1:27Shiron was never colonized.
- 1:29>> Siron,
- 1:29>> yes. They just pull back slaves there.
- 1:33So what? It doesn't mean anything.
- 1:34Still, their country was carved by the
- 1:36Europeans.
- 1:40So how do you expect that
- 1:42[clears throat] a people
- 1:45can build something they did not design?
- 1:50>> I'm trying to lead you slowly. your
- 1:52conclusion, not mine, but all the people
- 1:54who are going to listen because you guys
- 1:56are going to become members of
- 1:57parliament in the future. You are going
- 1:59to be the leaders of this continent. If
- 2:01you want to go back, you need to have
- 2:02something in your mind to say this is
- 2:04what is wrong and I want to change it.
- 2:05Otherwise, we are all going to be
- 2:07swimming in the dark for the rest of our
- 2:08lives. No black country on earth will
- 2:11become industrialized. Impossible. You
- 2:13said resources. People keep complaining
- 2:16and telling you that the reason African
- 2:18countries can't develop is because the
- 2:20white people stole the resources. It's a
- 2:22lie. There are four resources nobody can
- 2:25steal. Water is one of them. Did you see
- 2:28tanks from Britain taking all your water
- 2:30away? No. Fellas sang a song in 1981.
- 2:34Water houses food house. Hey them,
- 2:38right?
- 2:39>> 1981. Do you know how many years ago he
- 2:41was complaining about there is water
- 2:43overground? The Niger River goes through
- 2:45Nigeria. No Nigerian can get a cup of
- 2:48water, pure one, from his pipe in his
- 2:49own room. You have tanks on every
- 2:51building. That's one. They didn't take
- 2:53it away. The second one is land. The
- 2:56colonials didn't take it away. You have
- 2:57vegetative land in Nigeria. If Japan own
- 3:00it, they will feed half of the world
- 3:01with food export.
- 3:04[laughter]
- 3:04>> The third one, solar energy. 365 days.
- 3:07We don't get winter, we don't get
- 3:08spring, we don't get autumn. Is there?
- 3:10Have you harvested it? you go build a
- 3:12electric car when you can't even give
- 3:14people electricity in their homes in
- 3:16Bakina Faso what are you going to use to
- 3:18charge
- 3:20you understand so solar that's the third
- 3:21one so the fourth one is of course uh
- 3:26manpower resources okay from the
- 3:28intellect into physical they didn't take
- 3:30it away so all four things that help
- 3:33other countries to build themselves you
- 3:34have it you have it more than anybody
- 3:36the Congo alone the Congo has water
- 3:39reserve enough to feed the whole of
- 3:41central Africa for the next 250 years
- 3:44and not even have a drop.
- 3:46>> Kids in Congo can't even take a clean
- 3:47shower because of lack of water. Troana
- 3:50is the northern part of Kenya. It has.
- 3:52It took some foreign guys from Denmark
- 3:54to tap into the aquifier to know that
- 3:57Troana has over 200 trillions I don't
- 4:01know even the number how they measure
- 4:02water liters
- 4:04in Kenya. But the people of Truana every
- 4:07year their cles and humans will die. You
- 4:11can see it. And we will be sending them
- 4:13in Pesa and foreigners will rush there
- 4:16to save. They can't tap the water to
- 4:18feed themselves.
- 4:18>> So what do you think the internal issue
- 4:20is?
- 4:21>> Are you asking us to come to that
- 4:23conclusion?
- 4:24>> You are the one who said I'm crazy by
- 4:25saying you can't develop. Now we have
- 4:27seen clearly that nothing has been taken
- 4:28away. You have everything.
- 4:32So when we are not blaming the colonials
- 4:34for stealing resources, which is a
- 4:36boogeyman we use just to explain as if
- 4:38we are the only ones who are colonized.
- 4:40If stealing
- 4:41>> That's such a good point.
- 4:43>> That's [clears throat] such a good point
- 4:45that it's used as a scapegoat, the
- 4:46boogeyman that you were colonized,
- 4:48therefore you haven't developed because
- 4:50the colonial powers are meddling and
- 4:52have broken you beyond belief somehow.
- 4:55Yet nobody talks about like China was
- 4:57taken over by Europeans. part of Europe
- 5:00was taken over by the Ottoman.
- 5:02Um, Genghaskhan and the Golden Horde
- 5:05just rolled over Moscow all the way into
- 5:07as as far as Budapest. Everybody was
- 5:10subservient to somebody at one point.
- 5:13Hell, the Europeans, they've enslaved
- 5:15each other, too. Rome, practically the
- 5:17empire, colonized the savages of the
- 5:19north and romanized them. So, and then
- 5:23of course Persia, all the other empires
- 5:26of North Africa, all that stuff. Latin
- 5:29America is a good example of an entire
- 5:31continent that was colonialized and it
- 5:34is now industrialized.
- 5:37It's not on the level of Africa. So, why
- 5:41is it, and that's a good question to
- 5:43ask, why is it that Africa isn't
- 5:46developed? Look at China, massively
- 5:49developed. Look at the other
- 5:50souththeaster eastern countries
- 5:52massively developed everywhere you look
- 5:55central Asia the steps they have
- 5:57developed you know where why is it that
- 6:00only in one part what is the common
- 6:03factor so and why is it that way
- 6:08you can't just say it's colonialism
- 6:10because everybody else got colonized
- 6:11you're not the only one now that that
- 6:13argument might work if somehow you were
- 6:15the only one in the history of humanity
- 6:18that got colonized
- 6:19Was it slavery? Well, everybody was
- 6:21enslaved at one point. Quite literally.
- 6:23Romans had slaves. The Greeks had
- 6:25slaves. The Middle Eastern empires all
- 6:27had slaves. They have slaves currently
- 6:30in North Africa. By the way, Europeans
- 6:32were enslaved. The word slave comes from
- 6:34Slavs, as in Slavic people that were
- 6:38known to be slaves in Middle Eastern
- 6:40empires.
- 6:42Massive slave trades going on. Everybody
- 6:44enslaved everybody in antiquity. It's
- 6:46nothing new. So, it can't be slavery
- 6:50because we were all descended from
- 6:51probably a slave at one point. Somebody
- 6:53got enslaved somewhere. And then it
- 6:56can't be colonialism because it happened
- 6:58all over the world. And so what what is
- 7:01left? What could it possibly
- 7:05Africa is the most bountiful, the
- 7:08richest, the has the most resources of
- 7:11any continent. Quite literally, you
- 7:13could look at any African country and
- 7:15go, "Wow, the amount of resources Africa
- 7:19has would make any other nation
- 7:20jealous." So what is it then? Strange.
- 7:24Yeah.
- 7:25>> Is the reason for colonization. Ben will
- 7:27not be colonized. We have nothing but
- 7:29coconut trees on the beach. Gambia
- 7:31wouldn't be colonized. The island
- 7:33wouldn't be colonized. Many places
- 7:35Gambia won't be colonized. It's not for
- 7:38stealing resources. It's too expensive
- 7:39and it's too cumbersome. Colonial they
- 7:42don't steal resources and they didn't.
- 7:44>> Everything you discovered now was
- 7:46discovered after colonization
- 7:48but we use it as a boogeyman. And when
- 7:50we not talking about resources, the
- 7:52countries don't have resources. They
- 7:54say, "Oh,
- 7:56it's our leaders. They are corrupt."
- 7:58It's not true.
- 8:00>> Corruption.
- 8:00>> Those leaders you have that you keep
- 8:02saying,
- 8:03>> where did you employ them from? China.
- 8:06[snorts]
- 8:06>> They are from among you, right? So every
- 8:09four years randomly you pick one of you
- 8:12but you expect that person to know
- 8:15different from what you know. Not
- 8:17different but they should be willing to
- 8:21>> willing. What do you mean willing?
- 8:22Willing happens if you know what you do.
- 8:27I feel like they should like like
- 8:30picking like presidency especially like
- 8:32in Nigeria like they should see the
- 8:34things that us like you know people
- 8:36struggle with in society. So we expect
- 8:39them to like okay like this is what
- 8:41we're struggling with. This is what
- 8:43>> that is your fault. How do you know that
- 8:45he has what it takes to fix it?
- 8:47>> No, I'm not saying that he has what it
- 8:48takes. I'm saying that like people
- 8:50expect like I think like in Nigeria cuz
- 8:53like people like are trying to vote for
- 8:55like presidency and things like that and
- 8:57we all expect for the president to like
- 8:59see what is going on in the society and
- 9:01say okay like we hope for you to like
- 9:03make this change and like you know
- 9:04they'll put like their stuff out there
- 9:06>> you know when you hear like being said
- 9:08like so many like times it makes you
- 9:10like tune out completely like I can't do
- 9:13I I can't deal with it
- 9:16>> saying oh I will address this I will
- 9:18address is and then when they see it's
- 9:20like the exact opposite of like
- 9:22>> Yes. Because you corrupted them.
- 9:25>> Who corrupted them?
- 9:26>> The masses.
- 9:28>> No African leader is corrupt.
- 9:31That just makes You're going to have to
- 9:33elaborate on that.
- 9:33>> We are corrupted.
- 9:36>> So how we corrupt like people corrupted
- 9:38the like what like what do you mean by
- 9:40corrupted like like who? When computers
- 9:43started, right, when we had computers in
- 9:45high towers, you know that computer has
- 9:48a program in it and so you have to only
- 9:50introduce what it can use the program to
- 9:52understand, right?
- 9:53>> So when people use malware to introduce
- 9:55your hard drive, what do you say
- 9:56happened to your wide drive? My hard
- 9:58drive is corrupted.
- 9:59>> Which means you you you gave it
- 10:01something to do that is not part of what
- 10:03he knows how to do.
- 10:06Colonians left behind a political system
- 10:08and you hang on to it and then you're
- 10:10picking one of you to use it to do
- 10:13something.
- 10:14You said that's what you wanted. You
- 10:16said every four years you want to go out
- 10:18there and pick one of you to lead you.
- 10:20So somebody said, "Okay, pick me. Look
- 10:21at my suit. He's nice and I speak your
- 10:23language." And you picked him. You've
- 10:26introduced a tax to this man or woman
- 10:30who you don't know if he knows he
- 10:32doesn't own a country. We just proven to
- 10:34you there is no country but you're
- 10:36asking him to leave something that is
- 10:37not there. If you give your Lamborghini
- 10:40to your sevenyear-old, you've corrupted
- 10:42his skills. He runs into people or he
- 10:44runs into a tree. The people you've been
- 10:47thinking since independence don't know
- 10:49how to do what you're asking them to do.
- 10:51So you corrupt their skills.
- 10:54>> So we've like you saying us Nigerians
- 10:56have corrupted like the president or
- 10:59something like that?
- 11:00>> Yes, that's happened. You are just you
- 11:02are just a corrupt in waiting. They make
- 11:04any of you MP right now, you'll be
- 11:05corrupt because what they asking you to
- 11:08work on is not natural to you. It's
- 11:11foreign
- 11:14>> the villages were
- 11:15>> so he's talking about dismantling the
- 11:17postc colonial system basically
- 11:19governance their governance the way
- 11:22their cities are set up states are set
- 11:24up the nation the nation state is a
- 11:27European
- 11:29invention
- 11:30the way Europe started its nation state
- 11:33building was I guess from the African
- 11:36perspective were tribes you can call
- 11:38them or kingdoms middle kingdoms
- 11:40whatever each had their own king and
- 11:42bannermanmen and all that stuff and they
- 11:44married into and combined forces and
- 11:47then eventually you know that
- 11:49combination um ended up forming what you
- 11:52call the state France Spain the kingdom
- 11:56of France the kingdom of Spain the
- 11:59United Kingdom it's in the name United
- 12:03Kingdom right you have a whole bunch of
- 12:06little tribes that were living amongst
- 12:09each other and they were all combined
- 12:12into one nation state due to threats
- 12:15from the outside due to you know
- 12:18intertribal competition you could say
- 12:20for resources for power for influence
- 12:23for whatever it was right trade stuff
- 12:25like that so throughout history Europe
- 12:28actually went through an evolution of
- 12:30forming a state Africa never went
- 12:32through the evolution of forming a state
- 12:34it stayed with the tribes at the tribal
- 12:37level had a few kingdoms of larger
- 12:40tribes but never forced or I should say
- 12:43never created the complex systems that
- 12:45were required of Europe. H that makes a
- 12:48lot of sense actually. So in a way
- 12:50Africans won't ever be able to govern
- 12:52themselves in the European style. So the
- 12:56only way because you you imagine like he
- 12:58was saying and [snorts] also it's very
- 13:00sim um it's well known that in like uh
- 13:02any African country there's like a
- 13:04million languages spoken in each country
- 13:07from so many tri like these countries
- 13:09are absolutely massive people have no
- 13:10idea the size of like one African
- 13:12country it is gargantuan they're huge
- 13:15absolutely massive when you look at the
- 13:17square miles of something like Nigeria
- 13:20and you overlay it over the size of
- 13:22Europe stupendous size of these
- 13:24countries
- 13:25And you can imagine if that were in
- 13:28Europe, you have like 20 different
- 13:30countries in there. Well, in Europe, all
- 13:33these countries have went to war with
- 13:34one another at one point in time in
- 13:36history. These people have killed each
- 13:38other, have rallied together, a couple
- 13:41of small ones to fight one big one,
- 13:44married their royalty off, and became
- 13:47allies and then formed states because
- 13:49they had to to fight off other bigger
- 13:52ones or empires. So it's like that
- 13:55natural evolution that formed the nation
- 13:57state in Europe that never happened to
- 13:59such an extent in Africa. So now
- 14:01Africans are left with yeah let's just
- 14:03say postc colonialism the lines drawn on
- 14:05a map by Europeans and instead of
- 14:08disintegrating along tribal lines and
- 14:11allowing that natural evolution to take
- 14:13place of human society in essence like
- 14:17go to war. As crazy as that sounds it's
- 14:19like well they all need to go to war.
- 14:21you kind of need to to create a nation
- 14:23state. Like the strong must take over
- 14:26the weak. Then you coagulate into
- 14:29something larger and then you form a
- 14:30natural larger kingdom. And then that
- 14:33kingdom may marry and ally with some
- 14:35other kingdom. And then that begins the
- 14:37coagulative force naturally to
- 14:41essentially create your first nation
- 14:43state with uh you know its own identity
- 14:47that was founded by the people
- 14:50with its own history, stories, culture,
- 14:54all that stuff. It's very interesting to
- 14:56think about it from that perspective. So
- 14:58in essence if we go back Africa hasn't
- 15:01developed yet because it wasn't allowed
- 15:03the natural process
- 15:06maybe you could say in this specific
- 15:08sense because again when we compare to
- 15:09Latin America it just it's not a
- 15:11onetoone crossover because Latin America
- 15:12didn't have to go through this they had
- 15:15you know the Incas Aztecs Mayas but the
- 15:18countries that were formed there um
- 15:20essentially
- 15:22all speak Spanish for the most part
- 15:24except obviously Brazil which is
- 15:25Portuguese but all administered mostly
- 15:27by the upper class which are remnants of
- 15:30Europeans and then it created the
- 15:32societies that are there still their
- 15:34upper class are Europeans in general
- 15:36lighter skin if you look at Latin
- 15:37America and those in the administrative
- 15:40sectors in society are usually
- 15:43Europeans. So Europeans sort of still
- 15:45run society. They still they call
- 15:46themselves Latin American, all this
- 15:48stuff, but they have more European
- 15:50blood, right? So that system is still
- 15:52run by leftover Europeans, you could
- 15:55say. And then in Africa, it's full
- 15:57African.
- 15:59And so because that system didn't carry
- 16:02over, they didn't have the
- 16:04administrators remain. They all left.
- 16:07Now they have to essentially manage a
- 16:09system that they never created or built.
- 16:12And how can you possibly do that when
- 16:14you don't understand why it functions,
- 16:15how it should function, the way it
- 16:17should function
- 16:19and you have 50 different languages in
- 16:21one country where all the people think
- 16:23they're different and don't want to be
- 16:25ruled by the next tribe over. It makes
- 16:27it almost impossible to remain as a
- 16:29country, which is why you had South
- 16:30Sudan separate from Sudan, which is why
- 16:32you have so much ethnic conflict in
- 16:34Africa. You're forcing a bunch of tribes
- 16:36to live under one banner, which they
- 16:38don't claim. And the natural evolution
- 16:43for Africa is widespread war until it
- 16:46all gets settled and the strongest
- 16:49survive and form nation states and
- 16:51alliances and then that is how you reach
- 16:54peace. Ironically, it's like speedr
- 16:57runninging Europe's history to form the
- 16:59nation state. You how do you do this
- 17:01without war and bloodshed? I don't know.
- 17:04That's interesting because Europe would
- 17:05have never made it to where it did
- 17:06without the war and the bloodshed to
- 17:09draw hard lines on a map of my land,
- 17:11your land. Stay out of my [ __ ] I'll
- 17:13stay out of your [ __ ] And it took a
- 17:15bunch of people dying for that to
- 17:17happen. So now imagine trying to do that
- 17:20with the hundreds of lang thousands of
- 17:21languages in Africa. And it's like,
- 17:23well, who wins? Well, it's like but we
- 17:26kind of don't want them to go through
- 17:27that hell on earth, bro. It's hell on
- 17:29earth already for a bunch of people in
- 17:31Africa. If you want these people to lead
- 17:33themselves into a better future, maybe
- 17:37there are dark times ahead. I'm not
- 17:39sure. It's an interesting thought
- 17:41experiment though.
- 17:42>> You come from do you use ballot to pick
- 17:43the chief? They know you from age 12 by
- 17:48who you are, what you can do. And that's
- 17:50how we picked our leaders in Africa for
- 17:52hundreds of years.
- 17:54>> Okay. So are you saying that if we
- 17:56implemented like a system like so in
- 17:58Ghana in in my culture the way like
- 18:01picking a chief works is there are five
- 18:03royal families and then it rotates each
- 18:05family every time.
- 18:07>> Mhm.
- 18:07>> Are you saying that if that happened
- 18:09with like our government?
- 18:11>> How can it happen with your government?
- 18:12You don't have Ghana.
- 18:14>> You don't have a country called Ghana or
- 18:16Ghanaians.
- 18:17>> So whom are you picking?
- 18:20>> That that just makes no sense. So is the
- 18:23political system the issue? Like
- 18:25>> I don't know. I'm giving you things for
- 18:27you to make your own conclusion.
- 18:28>> There's no Ghana.
- 18:29>> There's no Ghana. There's no Nigeria.
- 18:31Who's a Nigerian? You are a Nigerian
- 18:33only when you leave the country and you
- 18:35are abroad. You said I'm from Nigeria.
- 18:37But when you ask a Chinese, they don't
- 18:39say I'm from China. They say I'm
- 18:41Chinese. Japanese will say I'm Japanese.
- 18:43Ask Africans, they always say I'm from.
- 18:46It means you're talking about a physical
- 18:47location that was created by some
- 18:49foreigner and a bunch of you who have
- 18:51nothing in common lives there.
- 18:52>> Okay.
- 18:53>> But in Nigeria there's no nobody says
- 18:55I'm Nigerian. You say I'm Ebo.
- 18:58>> I'm Euroba.
- 18:59>> The Waspi unity that you are that you
- 19:02referred to earlier. Pardon me.
- 19:03>> Just because we don't have the wasp like
- 19:05>> Of course you don't have it.
- 19:06>> Yeah. So we're not like we're just not
- 19:09Ghanian. We're just like you're a G.
- 19:12>> That's correct. Do you know? And it's a
- 19:14metaphor. I love it. I read it. Do you
- 19:16know the Tower of Babel
- 19:18>> in the Bible?
- 19:21>> What was the main thing that stopped the
- 19:23tower from being built?
- 19:27>> Yeah. I don't even remember.
- 19:28>> Jesus.
- 19:30>> Do you know the [laughter] tower? Yes. I
- 19:32No, like I know the story.
- 19:34>> Tell the story.
- 19:35>> I just know like a group of um
- 19:37>> people were building the Tower of Babel
- 19:40and then they kept on going. as they're
- 19:42building it, I believe like they came
- 19:44across like
- 19:47I forgot they came across like a fire or
- 19:50something like that and like I think a
- 19:51fire like stopped on one of them each
- 19:53and one of them and they started
- 19:55speaking different languages.
- 19:56>> So a group of people with one language,
- 19:59one culture was building a tower
- 20:01successfully for some sick reason got
- 20:04looked down and changed their languages
- 20:06and they started speaking different
- 20:07languages and the tower stopped.
- 20:11So that's what the that's what they did
- 20:14to us or we did that to ourselves.
- 20:15>> I don't know. I'm just describing
- 20:17things. You have to make the
- 20:18conclusions. What does a tower
- 20:19represent?
- 20:21>> Development.
- 20:22>> That's correct. Every time they say
- 20:25something is develop, you you you know
- 20:27you you you do this, right? So it's a
- 20:29metaphor. A tower represent development,
- 20:31growth. But it's only possible. I said
- 20:34it to you from the beginning. You got to
- 20:36have language
- 20:38one. Do you know how America struggle to
- 20:40make sure Spanish is not even a second
- 20:41language here because they know what it
- 20:43can cause? You don't have that. You
- 20:46don't have a national culture. You don't
- 20:49have a national history. You don't have
- 20:50a national identity.
- 20:53So where is patriotism and nationalism?
- 20:57>> Mhm. you're making it seem well I'm
- 21:00understanding it in the way that you're
- 21:01explaining it that it's not exactly a
- 21:04bad thing but like it's it's the
- 21:06division in the countries is what the
- 21:08problem is why we can't develop but
- 21:11that's what makes
- 21:13>> I think that's what makes um our African
- 21:17pride like having having so much
- 21:20>> diversity but like in that one place
- 21:22even though that doesn't make us
- 21:25>> that's exactly what's weakening you
- 21:27listen I traveled through Eastern Europe
- 21:28and I lived in Romania for a couple
- 21:30years after of of course lived in
- 21:33America most of my life and came back
- 21:35here temporarily to retire my parents in
- 21:37Bucharest. I'm now in Croatia and I can
- 21:40tell you right now living in Eastern
- 21:41Europe to see what a super majority of
- 21:44your own people is like. I talk about
- 21:47this all the time. The brotherhood, the
- 21:49patriotism, the nationalism. When you're
- 21:51looking at a person across the street,
- 21:54no matter who it is, if they look like
- 21:57you, they speak the same language as
- 21:59you, they're from the same place you
- 22:01are, they have the same shared history,
- 22:03their family fought and bled for and
- 22:06died for this exact country. We all
- 22:08share the exact same thing. We have the
- 22:11same exact experience. We like the same
- 22:13exact food. We have the same exact
- 22:15religion. I can't describe just how
- 22:18unifying
- 22:20and incredible it feels to be in a
- 22:22supermajority of your own people.
- 22:27This is what Western Europe's losing.
- 22:28This is what America is losing. That is
- 22:30why mass immigration and
- 22:31multiculturalism is destroying the West.
- 22:33They have lost the supermajority. They
- 22:35have lost the unified identity that made
- 22:39the countries into what they were that
- 22:41everybody else wanted to come and be a
- 22:43part of. Africa is currently dealing
- 22:45with that same exact issue, but on like
- 22:48a native level, you had people in, let's
- 22:50say, Nigeria, 70 different languages.
- 22:52We're just using a random number.
- 22:54There's probably more. So, you have 70
- 22:56different types of people that are
- 22:58probably marking themselves in some way
- 23:00to differentiate themselves. Whether
- 23:02it's like a something here, something
- 23:04there, whatever it is, armor they're
- 23:06wearing like warriors used to do, the
- 23:08tribesmen, the tribal, like something
- 23:09they're marking themselves so you know
- 23:11exactly who they are and where they're
- 23:13from.
- 23:14Right? They have their own identity,
- 23:16their own culture, their own language,
- 23:18their own way of life, their own way of
- 23:20governance on that local level. That's
- 23:22what he's talking about. Unfortunately,
- 23:25you have this wrapped up in the native
- 23:26level and then you're wondering why, oh
- 23:29[ __ ] our countries, we can't seem to
- 23:31get out of the corruption. You vote in
- 23:33one of the 70, the one is going to help
- 23:35the ones group, the other 69 get
- 23:38screwed. Imagine that constant nons. Why
- 23:41do you think European countries um
- 23:44especially during World War II for
- 23:45example with ethnic cleansing and
- 23:48genocides and all that stuff and it's
- 23:49even happening today like Turkey with
- 23:51the Kurds in Syria and um where is that
- 23:55in eastern Turkey right why do you think
- 23:58these nations are expelling all these
- 24:00minority groups out of their countries
- 24:02or have attempted to or historically
- 24:04have committed genocide ethnic cleansing
- 24:07and have completely removed a minority
- 24:12from within their country. Why do you
- 24:15think that historically has happened?
- 24:17It's easier to govern a country when
- 24:19you're a super majority, when it is just
- 24:21your people. There are no special
- 24:24interests. There's no carveouts.
- 24:26You don't have to cater to 70 different
- 24:29other types of people and what they
- 24:30want. And if you're one of them, you
- 24:32have to give them special treatment cuz
- 24:34they voted you and they feel like their
- 24:36community didn't receive anything cuz
- 24:37hey, bro, you're one of us. You should
- 24:39be helping us first then every that's
- 24:42why we put you in power and that leads
- 24:44to a whole bunch of other problems.
- 24:46That's why you need a unified culture or
- 24:49a unified system at least backed by the
- 24:51government. Like Yugoslavia was
- 24:54different Slavic nations, Balkan Slavs,
- 24:57and they were brutally oppressing any
- 25:00form of nationalism
- 25:03along ethnic lines. You were from
- 25:05Yugoslavia. You weren't a Croat. You
- 25:07weren't a Serb.
- 25:09You weren't anything else. A a Bosnjak.
- 25:12Nope. You were just from Yugoslavian.
- 25:14And if anybody showed ethnic
- 25:15nationalism, they were put down
- 25:17brutally. What happened after Tito died?
- 25:20Yugoslavia fell apart. Why? Because
- 25:23ethnic violence rose up again. The Serbs
- 25:26wanted power. Bosnians wanted power. The
- 25:29Croats wanted power, independence,
- 25:31whatever it was. Macedonia power,
- 25:33independ, all that stuff. And then they
- 25:34all broke apart and turned into smaller
- 25:37nations,
- 25:38weaker individually. Collectively, they
- 25:40were much stronger and would have been
- 25:42much richer. But that is how deep the
- 25:45division is. That a people like a Serb
- 25:48and a Crowat can look at each other as
- 25:50an enemy. Although they look the same,
- 25:53almost the same. To an outsider, you
- 25:55look exactly the same. To non-whites,
- 25:57they look exactly the same. They can't
- 25:59tell. A Serbian and a Croat. But a
- 26:01Serbian and a Croat could tell each
- 26:02other the difference. or anybody else in
- 26:04the Balkans, but outsiders couldn't.
- 26:07That's what happened in Africa.
- 26:08Outsiders can't tell the difference
- 26:09between this tribe and that tribe, but
- 26:11the tribes could. And look what happened
- 26:13on the European side. We have the Balkan
- 26:15Wars, ethnic cleansing, violence,
- 26:17genocide.
- 26:20This is what happens when you try to
- 26:21have a country of too many different
- 26:23people in there. It already we have it
- 26:25happened in Europe. It's going to
- 26:27continue happening in Africa until they
- 26:29sort this out. And how did Europe sort
- 26:30it out? Well, [ __ ] Look at Russia and
- 26:33Ukraine still sorting it out, battling
- 26:35over land, over where ethnically Russian
- 26:38people live. A million white men dead.
- 26:41You have your answer. It's a brutal one
- 26:43that nobody wants to admit. It's going
- 26:44to take death, war, violence, probably
- 26:48ethnic cleansing, brutal oppression of
- 26:50smaller tribes in order for nation
- 26:53states to form by the power of their own
- 26:56people. the most dominant tribes have to
- 26:58rise up and submit the rest and it has
- 27:02to be done on African terms and that's
- 27:04probably the only way that they can
- 27:06begin to build nations and then
- 27:07industrialize. That's like I don't know
- 27:10if anybody's ever thought of it in this
- 27:12kind of context, but if you think about
- 27:14a little deeper, it's like wow. Yeah,
- 27:16maybe that is the only way. Maybe
- 27:18historically, cuz look at China. Same
- 27:20[ __ ] guys. If you look at China, China
- 27:22has a very long history of dynasties.
- 27:24How many millions of Chinese went to war
- 27:27with each other in what is now the
- 27:30territorial of China? Think about it.
- 27:34All the dynasties that have went to war
- 27:36with another the empires that have risen
- 27:38and fallen, they were waring amongst
- 27:40themselves. That's crazy. It happened
- 27:43everywhere. Everywhere where there is
- 27:45developed nations, it already happened.
- 27:48It just hasn't happened in Africa yet. H
- 27:51and I don't think the world can stomach
- 27:53what that means if it has to happen in
- 27:54Africa in order for them to build nation
- 27:57states. Like, is the rest of the world
- 27:59going to just sit by and watch that kind
- 28:00of chaos and destruction? Is there
- 28:02another way? Is there a cleaner way to
- 28:04do this? Do people willingly give up
- 28:07power? That's the question. Do you think
- 28:09a nation like Nigeria will willfully,
- 28:13a government will willfully just, oh,
- 28:15we'll split off into 70 different
- 28:16tribes. That's fine and give up the kind
- 28:19of power the people at the top currently
- 28:21have. By the way, those very same people
- 28:23at the top that are benefiting
- 28:25tremendously while the rest are
- 28:27impoverished, the corruption that is
- 28:29rampant, it's rampant. Corruption is
- 28:30endemic everywhere in every single
- 28:32government. Everywhere from China to the
- 28:34West to Africa, Latin America, there's
- 28:36corruption at the top of every single
- 28:37government. Yeah, it's worse than other
- 28:39places. It's still there. But how do you
- 28:42get the people at the top, the corrupt,
- 28:45to let go of power? Not if they're still
- 28:48living. They won't. That's the truth.
- 28:50You need a revolution, right?
- 28:53Interesting. Interesting to think about.
- 28:55>> Develop to your Well, not to your
- 28:57standard, but like
- 28:58>> what have you benefited from that?
- 28:59diversity.
- 29:00>> I mean, I I can say I come here and know
- 29:02who I am and
- 29:04>> but that's because you are a tree.
- 29:06>> Yeah.
- 29:07>> Not because you're Ghanian. See, when I
- 29:09said your name, I could say it from
- 29:10anywhere and I said you are a tree. I
- 29:12wouldn't say you are Ghana
- 29:14and that tree
- 29:16forms you.
- 29:19>> Okay. So, what about the individual
- 29:20tribes in those little countries? Do you
- 29:23think those are it's possible for those
- 29:26countries to develop like those those
- 29:28little tribes like
- 29:29>> No, but because because you've made them
- 29:31to let go what is called in the
- 29:33development of a country
- 29:34self-determination.
- 29:36That is a goal. Self-determination.
- 29:39You've let them go. They can't.
- 29:43They can't. You're now saying you are
- 29:45Ghanaian. Yet there is nothing. You
- 29:48can't raise a child in Ghana as a
- 29:49Ghanaian. You can raise a child as a
- 29:51tree kid
- 29:52>> with your values you have, your culture,
- 29:55your dance, your history,
- 29:57>> your traditions. You don't wake up in
- 30:00Ghana and say, "I'm Ghanaian." You wake
- 30:01up as a tree. When you look around, your
- 30:04inspiration, your determinations is
- 30:06forced by your culture. But now you
- 30:09don't have it. They don't teach it. You
- 30:11don't have it anymore. Ghanaian, you are
- 30:13not. Chi, you're not either. I'm not
- 30:17kidding. I want you to look at what I'm
- 30:18saying carefully.
- 30:20>> I think
- 30:21>> if there is no country on earth black
- 30:23country that was formed by the people
- 30:24who live in it. Every one of you are
- 30:26living in a guest house. You seen people
- 30:29living in the guest house find the way
- 30:31to develop the main house better than
- 30:33the owner? Never
- 30:38>> why do we have the duda history? Cuz
- 30:40they were one people, one religion, one
- 30:43history,
- 30:45one ethnicity. You couldn't break in.
- 30:48That's why we have the tribal marks to
- 30:50differentiate them so they can see each
- 30:52other and dream dreams. Why do we have
- 30:54the Benin kingdom? Why do we have the
- 30:57Aome kingdom in Benin Republic and the
- 31:00Ashanti kingdom? Who fought the British?
- 31:02The Ashantes? Because they were the most
- 31:03predominant in the area at the time.
- 31:06They were able to have an administration
- 31:08form a palace with rulership, land
- 31:10division, everything. Where is it? They
- 31:13may do become. So it's not divide to
- 31:16conquer. is unite to conquer.
- 31:20>> So what the colonial took away from you
- 31:23is not what you started fighting for
- 31:25after 1960. What they took away from you
- 31:27is that identity
- 31:30for self-determination. But all the
- 31:32idiots who got independence included and
- 31:35all of them the first thing they started
- 31:36working on is economic development
- 31:38because they saw the people who
- 31:40colonized them. We want to be like them.
- 31:42And we've been lost since then.
- 31:46You said you went to Ghana and you see
- 31:48change. Change happens everywhere.
- 31:50Change is not a goal. So let me ask you
- 31:53name one thing in YouTube. One thing in
- 31:55Nigeria or in Ghana that was originally
- 31:58built by a Ghanaian in the realm of
- 32:01infrastructure that you guys are coming
- 32:02to work on. What is it?
- 32:05>> Can't say.
- 32:06>> You can't say about you. 130 million
- 32:09people every day you are annoying the
- 32:11rest of us saying we are the giant of
- 32:12Africa. Yeah. [laughter]
- 32:14You can't manage a gas station. But yes,
- 32:18what is it? You know, and I'm not
- 32:19kidding that Nigerian
- 32:22>> originally innovated, invented, built
- 32:24it, and now people are trying to build
- 32:26on it. What is it original? Using the
- 32:29four natural resources I just described.
- 32:34[laughter]
- 32:36Look, I'm from Beni. I'm black as it
- 32:38comes. You know, Nancy and I used to go
- 32:40to Beni when I had my Heroes program.
- 32:42That's how proud I am from. But that
- 32:44doesn't mean I'm blind to what I'm
- 32:45talking about. Ben is only 3.5 million
- 32:48people with 49 different languages.
- 32:52>> They can't manage a public toilet.
- 32:56>> [ __ ]
- 32:56>> I don't want to laugh.
- 32:58>> But I would say like I agree with what
- 33:00you're saying. Like I do feel like
- 33:02>> oh my god
- 33:03>> cuz like it's some like people are aware
- 33:04I feel like people are aware of like the
- 33:06resources that like we have already
- 33:09that's in Nigeria already that's like
- 33:10building on it and then some people are
- 33:12like more focused on like back then
- 33:15trying to build up from like economic
- 33:17development and things like that
- 33:18>> from what
- 33:19>> but I just
- 33:20>> what original economic system we have in
- 33:22>> I'm talking about like the past like
- 33:23people are like like colonization back
- 33:25in the past people are trying to like
- 33:26like you said like trying people are
- 33:28trying to use that and like build that
- 33:29up. But I do feel like there are certain
- 33:31individuals or like people in Nigeria
- 33:33that are aware of like the resources
- 33:35that like are around us that we already
- 33:37have. Like for example like people are
- 33:39like building like oil company or like
- 33:41water company and things like that. And
- 33:43I feel like not everybody is aware that
- 33:45we do have natural resources oursel that
- 33:48we can. Yeah. I feel like not everybody
- 33:50knows
- 33:51>> you don't see the water. No, I'm saying
- 33:54that people are [laughter] like don't
- 33:55have that like knowledge or
- 33:57>> why would they have knowledge about
- 33:58something they don't have capability to
- 34:00use? Why should I care myself about
- 34:02uranium when I don't know what to do
- 34:04with it?
- 34:05>> O damn.
- 34:06>> But I feel like people are like they're
- 34:07not like they're lack I got to say this
- 34:10but like people they're not like they
- 34:13see it of course. Yeah, they see it but
- 34:14I feel like they're not like able to say
- 34:16okay like let me learn what I can build
- 34:18from this.
- 34:19>> From where? like probably from I'll say
- 34:22from history like from our history.
- 34:23>> How do you learn how to build
- 34:24infrastructure from history?
- 34:25>> Like people can like
- 34:27>> building infrastructure is a capability.
- 34:28I'm talking about capability.
- 34:31Yeah, let me use the word so you can
- 34:33argue it. You sit around it but you
- 34:36can't build it. Why? You don't have the
- 34:38capability.
- 34:40You don't. That's why you haven't done
- 34:42it in any black country even though all
- 34:45the resources that everyone else have
- 34:47used. Listen, in 19 1945 thereabout,
- 34:51Japan was leveled with two atomic bombs.
- 34:53No other human country has ever suffered
- 34:56that completely.
- 34:58In 1945, Japan hasn't invented one
- 35:01thing.
- 35:03Yeah, they have airplanes. They used to,
- 35:04you know, but do you know what 1945?
- 35:07Your dad may be still alive. Was born in
- 35:09the Yes. Do you see the country right
- 35:11now?
- 35:13>> Yeah.
- 35:14>> They are surrounded by salty ocean. They
- 35:17don't even have land.
- 35:1973% of Japan 126 million is all taken by
- 35:23mountains
- 35:26>> is capability.
- 35:29capability. Are you
- 35:31>> I remember seeing Japan after the
- 35:33Fukushima disaster, you know, when they
- 35:34had the the giant tsunami that brought
- 35:37down one of their nuclear reactors
- 35:39[clears throat] and obviously it did
- 35:40tremendous damage the earthquake itself
- 35:42to the infrastructure which they already
- 35:44have worldclass earthquake proof
- 35:45infrastructure but imagine seeing like
- 35:48you know roads just completely
- 35:50disjointed um roads in the city that
- 35:52have collapsed right sewage pipes
- 35:54visible stuff like that bridges damaged
- 35:56um you know random stuff like that and I
- 35:59remember contrasting that with um
- 36:02Hurricane Katrina in the United States
- 36:04and watching people pillaging and
- 36:06looting and uh you know what it was like
- 36:07seeing that [ __ ] on TV and seeing what
- 36:10was going on in New Orleans with
- 36:11Hurricane Katrina and the slow recovery
- 36:15of rebuilding New Orleans and [ __ ] like
- 36:18that
- 36:20with the contrast of watching the
- 36:22Japanese rebuild after their
- 36:24tsunami/earquake.
- 36:26It was insane. I remember and I'll never
- 36:28forget this cuz it absolutely floored
- 36:30me. It was like a before and after
- 36:31picture and they're like Japan um after
- 36:34the earthquake and then it was uh or
- 36:36right after the earthquake and then it
- 36:38was like a couple like a week later if
- 36:41it was even a week later. I'm not even
- 36:43sure but it was a record amount of time
- 36:45where a huge section of an interstate or
- 36:47a road was massively damaged. I mean,
- 36:50beyond beyond damaged and within a few
- 36:55days,
- 36:56everything looked completely normal,
- 36:58redone, rebuilt. It was like they worked
- 37:00non-stop into the night and made
- 37:03people's way of life back to normal
- 37:04after a massive natural disaster. I was
- 37:07looking at that in shock and admiration.
- 37:10I It's like indescribable. Like, how how
- 37:12are these people so well-coordinated?
- 37:15How are they so capable? how how do how
- 37:17is their society functioning so
- 37:19efficiently? It's uh it leaves you in
- 37:21awe when you see that stuff because
- 37:23we've had natural disasters in you know
- 37:25let's just say Eastern Europe or even
- 37:27Western Europe or other parts of the
- 37:30world and it's everybody struggling to
- 37:32rebuild. [ __ ] is broken down
- 37:35looking terrible. It's been years.
- 37:38Construction is slow. Money got siphoned
- 37:40off to corruption. It never got to the
- 37:42project. Delays left and right. They're
- 37:44moving slow as molasses. And then here
- 37:46you have like Japan for example. And
- 37:49just within a week they manage major
- 37:52repairs that would take any other
- 37:54country besides probably China months if
- 37:58not a year to complete. Crazy man. It's
- 38:01crazy.
- 38:03>> But like are you saying that we're
- 38:04lacking that capability because we don't
- 38:07have that selfdetermination?
- 38:08>> No, not at all. It's natural.
- 38:10>> It's natural.
- 38:11>> It's a natural. So
- 38:12>> yeah, like we're naturally lacking that
- 38:14capability.
- 38:15>> Yes.
- 38:16>> So you don't think we can build
- 38:17[laughter] or like have like eventually
- 38:20like have that capability to like say
- 38:22okay let me start knowing what
- 38:23>> capabilities don't come eventually. They
- 38:25are either in you from the beginning or
- 38:26they're not.
- 38:27>> So [ __ ]
- 38:29>> and the fish claim.
- 38:30>> No.
- 38:31>> So if that is what is required of the
- 38:32fish
- 38:34>> doesn't have that capability.
- 38:35>> There's evolution.
- 38:36>> No I don't care. I won't be around for
- 38:38evolution. I'm talking about now.
- 38:40[laughter]
- 38:42If that is what is required of the fish,
- 38:45the fruits are on the tree, right?
- 38:47Golden fruit. If the fish can reach it,
- 38:49the fruit will become very rich. Plugg
- 38:51it and sell it. Can the fish plug it?
- 38:55So the the the golden fruit will be
- 38:57there and the fish will be here and be
- 39:00and be hungry. So your resources are
- 39:03there but you're hungry because you
- 39:06don't have a capability and you're
- 39:08refusing to accept it because it's too
- 39:10emotional for you.
- 39:12>> I agree with that.
- 39:14I am talking about 53 countries on earth
- 39:1814 [snorts]
- 39:19makes echoas
- 39:21and just by accident not even one
- 39:25you have to see it on Instagram
- 39:28and you still think that I'm saying
- 39:31something stupid
- 39:33but why do you think you should have
- 39:34that capability?
- 39:37Let me ask you, you've traveled quite
- 39:40wide. Have you seen any car made in
- 39:41Saudi Arabia?
- 39:44No. Have you seen any electronics made
- 39:46in Saudi Arabia?
- 39:47>> Okay. Have you seen any internet service
- 39:50or product made in Saudi Arabia?
- 39:52>> I haven't seen that.
- 39:53>> Okay. You call the Saudi Arabia
- 39:54thirdware country. No.
- 39:57But
- 39:59they are full of infrastructure. It's
- 40:01working. How do they do it?
- 40:03>> Whites. Why? Like Dubai. When I went to
- 40:06Dubai, I was shocked. It's all
- 40:07Europeanmade. It's all European designed
- 40:10with Arab money essentially infinite oil
- 40:13money. They brought over European
- 40:16technology, European expertise, experts,
- 40:19specialist, and they designed and built
- 40:22Dubai backed by Arab capital. That's how
- 40:26Dubai with slave labor of course. So
- 40:28slave labor with European ingenuity and
- 40:32special
- 40:33or expertise
- 40:36backed by Arab capital. And when you
- 40:39have all those three together, you
- 40:40sprouted up a Dubai and whatever else in
- 40:44the Gulf States, all the other cities
- 40:46that look absolutely insane like
- 40:48capitalism on steroids.
- 40:51>> Okay. But like but like so are you I
- 40:54can't answer that question, but I'm
- 40:55posing another question. Sure. Are you
- 40:57saying that they have that capability?
- 40:58>> They don't have it.
- 41:00>> So,
- 41:00>> yeah, they don't.
- 41:01>> Okay. [laughter] The difference.
- 41:02>> So, what would the what would the fish
- 41:04do to get the fruits?
- 41:06>> The fish would employ the skills of the
- 41:09monkey and say, "Bring it down. You get
- 41:1010%, I get 90%."
- 41:14The problem is you're trying to do it
- 41:15yourself because you look outside and
- 41:17you think others can do it, we can do
- 41:19it. It's not true. I lived in Kenya for
- 41:225 years, straight five years. I live on
- 41:24a compound of about 2.5 acres of land.
- 41:27Trees everywhere
- 41:30for 5 years. The trees, the leaves never
- 41:33fell. Winter never came. Spring never
- 41:36came. My wardrobe was the same wardrobe.
- 41:40Okay. Cotton shirt. By 11:00 a.m. I'm on
- 41:43the compound.
- 41:46Africa is the only tropical continent on
- 41:49Earth.
- 41:51Have you seen any country that is
- 41:53industrialized and is tropical?
- 41:58>> No. Have you seen any country that have
- 42:00four seasons and looks like Sudan or
- 42:02Salo?
- 42:04>> No.
- 42:05>> Okay. You see where I'm going?
- 42:08>> The only thing we didn't have and don't
- 42:11have is natural threat. Africa never
- 42:13suffered it. Is the most comfortable
- 42:15environment ever. You don't have to draw
- 42:19the water and store it cuz it never
- 42:22freezes.
- 42:24>> And it's everywhere. Yeah.
- 42:26>> I see. But if you are born in a place
- 42:30like here, every 3 months your brain is
- 42:33worried. So not because you're smart,
- 42:36it's just you have typhoon, hurricanes,
- 42:39tsunamis, titanic pl shakes,
- 42:42earthquakes, winter up to here killing
- 42:45people. Springs hardcore four. What do
- 42:48you have? Oh,
- 42:54>> son of
- 42:54>> nothing ever threatens.
- 42:58And when that happens over millions of
- 43:00years, the brain doesn't even predict.
- 43:03No, Africa is predictable.
- 43:06>> We just stay comfortable.
- 43:07>> That's correct.
- 43:09>> Wow.
- 43:12Now we're getting into evolution.
- 43:13Genetic talk. Oh my lord.
- 43:16>> So do you think that's an issue like
- 43:18with us like I don't I'm not saying just
- 43:20for Nigeria but like some African
- 43:22countries where like comfortable in our
- 43:24own like space thinking
- 43:25>> yes people are people want what we got
- 43:28but you're saying I'm not developed. The
- 43:30only time that you became this and
- 43:32people can point fingers is because like
- 43:33you two said the only time I knew my
- 43:36country was not developed is when I came
- 43:37to the western world. But
- 43:40>> interesting.
- 43:41>> You're not a western world. don't want
- 43:43that our people bleach because they
- 43:44think if they become white enough they
- 43:46can change their environment.
- 43:49>> What a good episode. Again, if you guys
- 43:51want to see more, I highly encourage you
- 43:53watch some of his stuff. Um, I expect
- 43:55him to be blowing up over the next
- 43:57couple of years because he's going
- 43:58counter to the mainstream narrative, the
- 44:01victimhood, the oppression Olympics, the
- 44:04systemic this, the colonial that. um
- 44:07he's actually having a conversation with
- 44:10people from the community about the
- 44:12community's issues and I think it's very
- 44:14positive. Anyways, if you found this
- 44:16interesting, go watch his channel. It's
- 44:18Frank Zanu and as usual,
- 44:21we'll see you on the next one. Take care
- 44:22everybody.
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