Why Men's Rights Activists Hate Feminism? | Paul Elam | Outtakes from "The Red Pill" — Transcript

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1. 0:02I often have people asking me the men's
2. 0:18rights movement what's that about what's
3. 0:20their platform what are their goals and
4. 0:22I always get a little flustered I don't
5. 0:26know how to answer that it seems like
6. 0:27you have so many goals that how do you
7. 0:30convince it into an easily explainable
8. 0:32way I think you and I probably share the
9. 0:35same experience trying to articulate the
10. 0:40the entire platform of the men's rights
11. 0:43movement is kind of like trying to
12. 0:45understand a snow drift with one
13. 0:47snowflake at a time it's a very very
14. 0:51complicated matter we have the in
15. 0:54justices the legal in justices that are
16. 0:56going on like we've just been talking
17. 0:58about the family courts we have the
18. 1:00issues that are going on in suicide
19. 1:03rates what's happening to men in
20. 1:06education the sentencing disparity in
21. 1:10criminal courts men are sentenced to 63%
22. 1:15more prison time for the same crime as
23. 1:18women they're more than three times as
24. 1:22likely as women to go to jail for the
25. 1:25same crime and the sentencing disparity
26. 1:27between men and women for the same crime
27. 1:30is six times greater than it is between
28. 1:33whites and other minorities and we go on
29. 1:38and on and on and on one subject after
30. 1:41another these different things that
31. 1:44impact the life of men and boys we have
32. 1:46a ton of stuff that's just specific to
33. 1:49boys we have young men that are failing
34. 1:51to launch they're staying in their homes
35. 1:54of origin far past the time that we
36. 1:57would normally expect them to
37. 1:58individuate and move
38. 2:00and go live their lives we have video
39. 2:03game addiction we have pornography
40. 2:05addiction we have the abuse of young
41. 2:07boys with drugs like ritalin to manage
42. 2:10their behavior I mean there's no
43. 2:12shortage of issues they're there they're
44. 2:14stacked as as high as as you can see so
45. 2:18putting it all into a nutshell I
46. 2:21sympathize with that problem it's
47. 2:23impossible to do but at what we can do
48. 2:26is that we can articulate one basic idea
49. 2:31about men that I think does sum it up
50. 2:35and it has an impact on all these issues
51. 2:37and how we inevitably look at them it's
52. 2:41time for us to start seeing that men are
53. 2:43human beings that they have feelings
54. 2:47that they have pain that they are they
55. 2:51feel betrayed by injustice they feel
56. 2:53outraged by mistreatment they are hurt
57. 2:58when we abuse them they're hurt when we
58. 3:00take their rights away just like any
59. 3:03other person you can think of and that
60. 3:06is a lot of what a voice for men tries
61. 3:09to pay attention to is that once we
62. 3:13begin to have the concept of men not as
63. 3:17human doings but as human beings and
64. 3:22once we decide that they're actually
65. 3:24worth listening to that that it's
66. 3:28actually alright for them to complain
67. 3:30about something bad happening to them
68. 3:32once we get that established in this
69. 3:35culture then we can start addressing
70. 3:37this whole range of problems that affect
71. 3:39men and boys in very specific ways but
72. 3:42we'll never get there until we first get
73. 3:44over the the cultural prejudice that men
74. 3:48should not complain about anything and
75. 3:50the myth that men have all the power
76. 3:52which we've already discuss which they
77. 3:54do not these are men that we're
78. 3:58discussing and with all these problems
79. 3:59that are the most powerless individuals
80. 4:03you can possibly imagine a man that has
81. 4:06been mistreated in Family Court that's
82. 4:09had his children taken
83. 4:10from him that has had all of his income
84. 4:12taken away that has had his reputation
85. 4:15ruined has absolutely nobody he can
86. 4:19complain to about this the legal system
87. 4:22does not want to hear it other men do
88. 4:24not want to hear it
89. 4:25women don't want to hear it nobody wants
90. 4:28to hear it who does he talk to we wonder
91. 4:31why that when you look at the suicide
92. 4:34rate between men and women
93. 4:36it is about four times male to female in
94. 4:40normal circumstances during the course
95. 4:43of a divorce or serious breakup it moves
96. 4:47to ten to one because men are isolated
97. 4:51during these processes and because a lot
98. 4:53of times they're even their own families
99. 4:55turn on that tell them to man up take it
100. 4:59you decided to get married you go take
101. 5:02care of your kids every bit of betrayal
102. 5:05that they're feeling every bit of
103. 5:07mistreatment that they're taking the
104. 5:09response they typically get from the
105. 5:11society around them is to shut up and
106. 5:13take it as long as that's happening
107. 5:17we're going to continue to have problems
108. 5:19and that will keep happening as long as
109. 5:21we refuse to see that these are
110. 5:23flesh-and-blood human beings that have
111. 5:26real problems and that deserve some
112. 5:28compassion so all those issues that you
113. 5:34listed off I think most people would
114. 5:36agree that yes those are issues we need
115. 5:38to look at and we need to address so why
116. 5:42do you think the men's rights movement
117. 5:44is that odds with feminism what has
118. 5:47created that clash and that war between
119. 5:51each other
120. 5:53well one feminism has spent the last 50
121. 5:57years demonizing men which is sort of
122. 5:59one of the problems feminist scholars
123. 6:04have characterized men is inherently
124. 6:06Island inherently bad inherently
125. 6:08predatory inherently oppressive they
126. 6:12have postulated that we need to
127. 6:14reconstruct men in a feminist paradigm
128. 6:17that they are defective by nature that
129. 6:23masculinity is a disease they even have
130. 6:26a name for it it's called hegemonic
131. 6:27masculinity where they really believe
132. 6:32that there is a brand of masculinity
133. 6:34that is psychopathic in nature with its
134. 6:38control and with its tendency to abuse
135. 6:41others around it I suppose they've
136. 6:46forsaken any examination of normal human
137. 6:48psychopathology and that and just gone
138. 6:51for the fact that it has something to do
139. 6:52with with masculinity in their eyes so
140. 6:56where has feminine feminism gone astray
141. 6:58in this we're going to be talking a long
142. 7:02time about that feminism is a huge huge
143. 7:08part of the problem for men in this
144. 7:09culture right now if you go to any major
145. 7:13university for instance one of the
146. 7:15things I talked about a few minutes ago
147. 7:17was that right now that there was
148. 7:19something like 38 percent of college
149. 7:21students on average or male women are
150. 7:24earning about 70 percent of degrees that
151. 7:28are issued and at rights that men are
152. 7:31falling out of college like I said the
153. 7:33last degree issued a bachelor's degree
154. 7:35would be issued to a man in 2025 it
155. 7:38probably will level off and we will be
156. 7:41continuing to get men to Greece but at
157. 7:44the rate of decline right now that's the
158. 7:46picture yet when you go into a college
159. 7:48campus which are feminists controlled
160. 7:51strongholds academically speaking every
161. 7:55gender specific program you see almost
162. 7:58without exception is for women every
163. 8:01special consideration it's it's the same
164. 8:04way in in our health care system men die
165. 8:07on average five years
166. 8:10they die more frequently of most all the
167. 8:13top killer diseases we have several
168. 8:16national offices for women's health and
169. 8:18we have nothing for men
170. 8:22if that's not bigotry if that's not real
171. 8:27deadly sexism I don't know what is and
172. 8:31this is a product of feminist influence
173. 8:34in our culture men have so many health
174. 8:38problems that are unaddressed we don't
175. 8:41care about them we have NFL players
176. 8:44wearing pink ribbons for breast cancer
177. 8:46which is fine I guess raise money for
178. 8:49breast cancer that's a wonderful thing
179. 8:51given that they're men what about
180. 8:53prostate cancer
181. 8:55how about NFL players dedicating some
182. 8:59time to raising money for prostate
183. 9:02cancer awareness in research the fact of
184. 9:05the matter is is that there's no
185. 9:07political benefit to it it is an orphan
186. 9:11problem there's some research going on
187. 9:14but you can't look at the fact that men
188. 9:18have so many more significant health
189. 9:21problems among them the fact that
190. 9:23they're socially conditioned to not seek
191. 9:25attention medically when they have
192. 9:27problems and at the same time the lion's
193. 9:31share of gender specific research money
194. 9:33for medical research goes to women if
195. 9:37this were happening to women if we were
196. 9:40dedicating 80 90 percent of our gender
197. 9:43specific medical research to men and we
198. 9:46had no office for women's health but we
199. 9:48had several offices for men's health it
200. 9:51would be a national outrage people would
201. 9:54be furious a lot of times people wonder
202. 9:57about MRIs why are you guys so angry and
203. 10:01my foot that is why aren't you how can
204. 10:04anybody look at this and not be angered
205. 10:07by it and the only answer to that I've
206. 10:10ever been able to come
207. 10:11with is that people aren't angry because
208. 10:15they don't see men as human beings it's
209. 10:17one thing when you looked at what
210. 10:21happens to women in you and you feel
211. 10:23normal healthy outraged about it and
212. 10:26that should happen but when you can look
213. 10:28at what's happening in our courts to men
214. 10:30in our medical establishment to men in
215. 10:33our schools to men and all the things
216. 10:35that we've been talking about here and
217. 10:37yet we remain so cerebral about all of
218. 10:40it and we remain intellectual and we say
219. 10:43yes well that is certainly something to
220. 10:46consider if it were happening to any
221. 10:49other group we would be having protests
222. 10:52from coast to coast in this country and
223. 10:55the fact is that it is happening to men
224. 10:58every day right in front of our eyes and
225. 11:00people will get angry at you if you try
226. 11:03to talk about it that's how deep the
227. 11:05prejudice runs against men in this
228. 11:08culture and people not wanting to
229. 11:11believe that's true doesn't make it not
230. 11:13true
231. 11:14it is true and we can see it right in
232. 11:16front of our eyes
233. 11:19yeah that gives you every reason to
234. 11:24anyone every reason to be angry people
235. 11:28want to know why m-ras are angry this is
236. 11:31why anger is a healthy response to
237. 11:35injustice it is supposed to be felt when
238. 11:39people feel compassion about the
239. 11:42struggles of people that are unaddressed
240. 11:44or that are ignored when they respond to
241. 11:46that in anger they're asserting their
242. 11:49humanity they're standing up I used to
243. 11:53identify as a feminist when I saw things
244. 11:57that I believed happening to women
245. 11:59the disproportionately that weren't
246. 12:02happening to men when I believed that
247. 12:04some of my views have changed a lot
248. 12:06about how much things are happening to
249. 12:08who and when I've become a lot more
250. 12:10educated about it but when I looked at
251. 12:13it and I saw it happening
252. 12:15and I believed it was disproportionate
253. 12:17it made me angry I wanted to do
254. 12:20something about it I didn't want to just
255. 12:21sit and be quiet and I didn't want to
256. 12:23just say well yeah that's really rough
257. 12:26and and then going about my business I
258. 12:28wanted to take action and I did I did
259. 12:31for a number of years and when I did it
260. 12:34oh it was great
261. 12:36people patted me on the back told me
262. 12:38what a great person I was what a
263. 12:39wonderful man I was to stand up for
264. 12:42women for their struggles for their
265. 12:44troubles and to try to do something
266. 12:46about them and the moment I started
267. 12:49standing up for men people started
268. 12:51taking shots at me and telling me that I
269. 12:54hated women that I must hate women how
270. 12:56could I stand up for men unless I hated
271. 12:58women that is the level of bigotry in
272. 13:03this culture what you will find as you
273. 13:06talk to feminist academicians because
274. 13:09they will tell you flat-out that men
275. 13:11don't have these issues that there is no
276. 13:13prejudice against them in course there
277. 13:14is no prejudice in health care there's
278. 13:16no prejudice against women's goals
279. 13:18there's nothing to be done here except
280. 13:20perhaps we need to defeat patriarchy and
281. 13:24help men express their feelings more
282. 13:27like women it's a load of of lies it is
283. 13:32a load of absolute lies and you're going
284. 13:34to hear it when you talk to these people
285. 13:36from coast to coast in this country they
286. 13:40don't have any interest in helping with
287. 13:43men's issues men's issues are about
288. 13:45staying alive men's issues are about
289. 13:47maintaining their constitutional rights
290. 13:49their issues are not that they don't
291. 13:52express their feelings correctly enough
292. 13:54for feminists that is not the issue for
293. 13:58men but you hear it just the same and
294. 14:01again I mean I can even feel the anger
295. 14:03now will up in me when I talk about this
296. 14:05because this stuff is unjust it's not
297. 14:08supposed to be happening this way we're
298. 14:10supposed to have compassion for our
299. 14:13fellow man just as much as our
300. 14:15a woman
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