why i will never be eastern orthodox #christian #catholic #orthodox #debate #filioque — Transcript

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1. 0:00In my opinion, the most obvious reason
2. 0:01to not become Eastern Orthodox is the
3. 0:03doctrine of the filioquay. The filioquay
4. 0:06means and the son because Catholics
5. 0:08believe that the holy spirit proceeds
6. 0:09from the father and the son while
7. 0:11Orthodox Christians believe that the
8. 0:13holy spirit proceeds only from the
9. 0:15father. In order to explain why
10. 0:16Catholics are right on this, I'm going
11. 0:18to have to throw a lot of information at
12. 0:19you at once. So, you might have to watch
13. 0:20this over again once or twice. With that
14. 0:23being said, here is why the filioquay is
15. 0:24true. The first terms you need to know
16. 0:26are principium quote and pripipium quo.
17. 0:28Princhipium quote is the means which and
18. 0:31the principium quo is the means by
19. 0:33which. To better understand these we can
20. 0:35use an analogy. Imagine you get burnt by
21. 0:37touching metal. The princhipium quote is
22. 0:39going to be the metal itself. It is the
23. 0:41means which actually burns you. However,
24. 0:42the prinipium quo is the means by which
25. 0:45the metal burns you and that is going to
26. 0:47be heat. Obviously in this situation the
27. 0:49steel cannot be the principium quo
28. 0:51because it is not of the nature of steel
29. 0:53to burn. Otherwise all steel would burn
30. 0:55you. Now that you understand those
31. 0:56terms, let's take a look at the trinity
32. 0:58itself. When the father beggets the son,
33. 0:59he is the principle which the son is
34. 1:01begotten of. However, the divine nature
35. 1:03itself is the principle by which the son
36. 1:06is begotten. So in this situation, the
37. 1:08father is the principium quoted and the
38. 1:09divine nature is the principium quo. Now
39. 1:12this is really important to the
40. 1:13discussion of the filioquay because
41. 1:14remember the son receives the fullness
42. 1:16of the divine nature from the father.
43. 1:18And since the divine nature is the
44. 1:19principle by which begetting and
45. 1:21proceeding occur, the sun receiving the
46. 1:23fullness of the divine nature therefore
47. 1:25receives the ability to spirate. Now you
48. 1:27might say, wait a second, if the sun is
49. 1:29receiving the fullness of the principle
50. 1:30by which begetting and spiration occur,
51. 1:32wouldn't the sun then start beaggetting
52. 1:34a million other sons? Not quite. In
53. 1:36order to understand this, we have to
54. 1:37make a distinction between the
55. 1:38principium quo proxyum and pripium
56. 1:40quoum. The pripium quo proximum is the
57. 1:42most immediate principle by which and
58. 1:44then the principium quo remotum is the
59. 1:46greater power or nature behind that
60. 1:48action. So for example if I wave hello
61. 1:50to you the pripium quo proxyimum is the
62. 1:53power to wave but the pranchipium quoum
63. 1:55is my human nature. So when the sun
64. 1:57receives the fullness of the divine
65. 1:59nature from the father the pripium quo
66. 2:01proxyimum of begetting a son terminates
67. 2:03within the person of the son eternally.
68. 2:06However, the pripium quo proximum of
69. 2:08spirating a spirit does not terminate
70. 2:10because the spirit has not yet been born
71. 2:12according to natural order. So now that
72. 2:14the son has the fullness of divinity and
73. 2:16the ability to spirate, the father, the
74. 2:18origin of spiration, sends the spirit
75. 2:20through the son and generates the
76. 2:22spirit. This is most likely why you hear
77. 2:24so many early church fathers saying that
78. 2:25the father is the only cause of the
79. 2:27spirit. And that's because he is the
80. 2:29origin and then sends it through the
81. 2:31son. The father and the son are not two
82. 2:33separate principles by which the spirit
83. 2:34is sent but rather they come together to
84. 2:36make one principle by which the early
85. 2:38church fathers actually articulate this
86. 2:40very well. St. Gregory of Nissa says
87. 2:41that the trinity is like three torches.
88. 2:43The first one being the father, the
89. 2:44second being the son and the spirit
90. 2:46being the third. The first torch gives
91. 2:47the light to the second and then the
92. 2:49second light, the sun gives the light to
93. 2:51the third, the holy spirit. Here's the
94. 2:52whole quote if you're interested. And
95. 2:54there are so many more things to talk
96. 2:55about here but unfortunately I'm running
97. 2:57out of time and this video is already
98. 2:58super long. So God bless.