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0:00[Music]
0:05okay so you you have this this final
0:07Awakening you write this thing then a
0:09year later I think in ' 86 you wrote why
0:11was it why I left the left I wrote an
0:14essay look I as I say I I I I was
0:18personally threatened by Elaine Brown um
0:22and then and a I have the tape of the
0:25phone conversation which he said if you
0:29if you should get run over David really
0:32I'm I'm I'm going to be your best friend
0:35because people will say I did it
0:37something like that I mean it was a
0:38think a threat um so I was
0:42afraid uh I fed to Kate Coleman who
0:46wrote an article for a now defunct
0:49leftwing
0:50magazine uh what called the part's over
0:53about the criminality of the Panthers
0:55which I had discovered by personal
0:58investigation um
1:02uh but
1:05uh I forgot well get getting to the
1:07Village Voice piece oh The Village Voice
1:10yeah so I finally in 1986 which is it's
1:14a decade later I wrote a piece why I am
1:17not no longer a
1:19leftist and uh and referred to this I
1:23did not name The Killers but I did refer
1:26to the murder and the pan that the
1:28Panthers had murdered her
1:31and
1:32um Paul Burman wrote this piece uh about
1:37the Renegade harowitz the intellectual
1:39life and the Renegade harowitz it was a
1:41vicious attack MH and uh he had me at
1:44the end of his piece cheering on sua who
1:48was a psychopath that was a contra in
1:52Nicaragua whom I hadn't even heard of
1:54when he called me he said and harowitz
1:56is cheering wakes up the next morning
1:58cheering suici so so basically you you
2:00went off the reservation officially with
2:02this article and then you had said the
2:04knives were already out no it was with
2:06the Reagan article yeah with the Reagan
2:08article was the this one was this is
2:10right this is right at the left right so
2:13this was a what it was a year later
2:14right I think it was 85 and 86 so a year
2:16later so the knives were already out and
2:18then this was like sort of the final
2:19door on that's right and that's so 1986
2:2287 that's like 30 years ago is that when
2:24it is something like that in 30 years my
2:29work has never been taking the work the
2:32the ideas my arguments with the left why
2:35I'm no long I wrote a long essay on on
2:39leaving the left um and why I left it uh
2:45never U responded to the nation made one
2:49stab at it but not a very good
2:52one on the other hand there's like a
2:55100,000 attacks on me on the internet
2:57from leftist so it's not like they don't
2:59think that I need to be refuted they
3:02think it's just more effective to
3:04pretend he well if it makes you feel any
3:05better right before we sat down I was
3:06scrolling my Twitter feed and some
3:08article was written about me where they
3:09referred to me as a right- Winger and
3:11then got a few other things incorrect
3:12about me and then my own audience
3:15actually started attacking them on
3:17Twitter and then they they didn't issue
3:19a retraction but they changed the
3:20headline at least and Chang one other
3:22thing which of course is not
3:23journalistically uh sound but I guess
3:26maybe I'm picking up some of the well at
3:29first it Hur
3:30but eventually you you get to be liel
3:32prooof they they liel you so much that
3:35it just seems ridiculous more than
3:37anything else it's just lazy lazy and
3:39ridiculous well you you know I'm an
3:41easier Target than you are because I
3:44vowed when I left the left that I were
3:46going to talk to the left address them
3:48in the same way that they address
3:50everybody else though oh I talk to them
3:52nicely yeah you
3:55very very hard to demonize I'm sort of
3:58easy so so when you see you you had some
4:02nice things to say about me when you sat
4:03down and when you see someone like me
4:05that's understands the title of this
4:07book that understands your journey and
4:09all that do you think I was just even
4:11though obviously we have 30 some IDE
4:13years between us that I was just late to
4:15the game and picking up what was going
4:17on here or do you think something also
4:19happened in the last couple years with
4:20the
4:21left two things first of all starting
4:25with the McGovern campaign that's when
4:27it started the communist left
4:30infiltrated and took over the Democratic
4:33party um I mean Tom
4:36Hayden who was no longer with us uh was
4:39a
4:40cynical
4:42anti-American lying
4:45radical uh and he was given the medal of
4:47freedom by Bill Clinton um uh he was a u
4:53state legislator in the state of
4:55California you can still see his work
4:57whenever you see prop 65 that warns you
5:00about the bad effects of chemicals and
5:04your whatever oh yeah it's everywhere
5:05here in La
5:07yeah um but the Democratic party took
5:10the left
5:12in the the anti the anti-American
5:18totalitarian and I would say racist left
5:20I will explain that more later but
5:22racist left was taken into the bosom of
5:25the democratic party in the Clinton
5:28Administration and and with Obama they
5:30got one of theirs in the White House
5:33okay so let so let's pause there for a
5:34second so when I hear you say that about
5:36the Clinton Administration that's hard
5:37for me to picture because those eight
5:39years were
5:41basically I don't think we saw a lot of
5:43what we're seeing right now so what what
5:45am I missing well you missed the you
5:47didn't know the personalities uh from
5:50one um I've written a uh let's put it
5:54this way I think back to the Clinton
5:55Administration very fondly still that
5:57things were basically they were terrible
5:59they were basically first of all let's
6:01let's Bill
6:03Clinton's was is not an ideologue in the
6:05way that Hillary Clinton is Bill
6:07Clinton's ideology was
6:09Mah it was his
6:11ideology and but that you would argue
6:13that's probably a Saving Grace then yes
6:15oh corruption is far better than
6:17communism
6:19yeah if it weren't for the corruption of
6:22the clintons Bernie Sanders would have
6:23been a
6:25nominee um that's a great quote there
6:28did you just quote corruption is far
6:29better than communism that's a good one
6:31it is it is because you you can deal
6:33with it doesn't have the ideology that
6:35sweeps people along with it Bill Clinton
6:37domestically was a fairly Centrist uh
6:41you know I don't have too much to
6:42quarrel with him there uh uh on foreign
6:47policy was terrible absolutely terrible
6:49the World Trade Center was blown up in
6:51uh
6:531993 uh by Ramsey Yousef he intended to
6:57kill 50,000 people or 200,000 to top of
7:01one of the towers on the other the bomb
7:03is fired it wounded a thousand people it
7:06killed six Bill Clinton never visited
7:09the
7:09site dismissed it as an individual
7:12criminal act when it was inspired by the
7:15blind Sheik who's just
7:17been um Osama Bin Laden which should
7:21have been stopped in the 90s before the
7:23World Trade Center was Ian I can go I've
7:26written a lot about this so Bill but but
7:29in the case of that in the case of the
7:31the First World Trade Center bombing so
7:32what do you think was going on then in
7:34Bill Clinton's head when so this happens
7:36he never visited what is what's the
7:38ideology there that would lead him to
7:40that it's an interesting question I wish
7:42we had a um one of these Democrats on
7:45and you could ask them the question um I
7:49I'll try to get a former ad just to skip
7:53ahead uh in this book I've written big
7:56agenda I I lay out what I think is going
7:59on that that uh the Democratic party is
8:02now a racist
8:04party uh if you use the the phrase
8:07people of color is a racist phrase
8:10identity politics is racist and it's
8:13anti-American the fundamental American
8:16idea is that we're all creatures of a
8:21Divinity or maybe Nature's God whatever
8:24Jefferson wrote there um and equal in
8:28the of our creator therefore we should
8:31be treated equally by our government and
8:34we have rights that are inalienable that
8:37government can't take away so it's all
8:40about individual freedom and most
8:43importantly individual
8:46accountability when I was a kid in in
8:48public schools we
8:51always uh there was this phrase
8:54regardless of race color or
8:57Creed um a a an American is somebody who
9:01doesn't look at your Origins We're a
9:03nation of immigrants that way don't look
9:05at your origins of course if you come
9:07from a terrorist country we we maybe we
9:12should have a a little betting process
9:15yeah
9:17um identity politics is the opposite
9:21what the left seeks we are in a civil
9:23war situation now um and the reason is
9:28the reason it's so IR reconcilable is
9:30that the left believe is a is racist it
9:33believes in a racial hierarchy so if
9:36you're the right skin color which is
9:38dark you go to the head of the line for
9:40admissions to college you go to the head
9:41of the line for job you go to the head
9:43of the line for a promotion you go to
9:45the headle line for almost
9:47anything everything's not diverse enough
9:50so we'll take
9:51anybody um so what would you say to the
9:53people that would say well white people
9:55had it good for a long time and and yeah
9:57and white people did bad things and they
10:00did good things and one of the good
10:01things that white America did was to
10:04liberate the slaves people forget that
10:06we inherited
10:08slavery uh this is how I made myself
10:11notorious in the left by coming out
10:13against reparations for slavery 137
10:16years after the
10:18fact um America inherited a system of
10:21slavery slavery existed I learned this
10:23from Orlando Patterson who is a black
10:26left of
10:27center um so sociologist at Harvard
10:30who's written prize-winning books on
10:32slavery and freedom slavery existed for
10:373,000 years nobody ever said it was
10:39immoral not Jesus not Moses not
10:42Aristotle until a white Christian males
10:46in England led by Wilbur Force said it's
10:49immoral and an American slave owner
10:52Thomas jeon wrote it into the birth
10:54certificate of this country that all men
10:57are created equal and a given
10:59right to Liberty by their creator within
11:0220 years the slave trade was ended um
11:06the reason that America didn't initiate
11:10a Civil War in 1776 to free the slaves
11:14one of the biggest reasons was that
11:17England would have come and just retaken
11:19the colonies and reinstituted
11:22um slavery anyway and within a
11:24generation or a little more given in
11:27those days people lived shorter lives
11:30uh at the cost of uh
11:32350,000 Union Soldiers we liberated the
11:35slaves and liberated them throughout the
11:38hemisphere so black people Americans can
11:42be very proud of their Heritage um you
11:45know it's it's a human Heritage so it's
11:48got a lot of bad spots but you look at
11:50any other country in the world and uh
11:53forgive me lepus for saying
11:55this one is the
11:57best what other country do Asians get in
12:01boats and risk their lives to get into
12:04you think they're coming here to be
12:05oppressed right I mean everybody
12:07everybody wants to want to be here and
12:09then the funny thing is this at the same
12:11time you go to watch some of these
12:12protests and the people that are
12:14screaming about how racist and evil and
12:16patriarchy and all this stuff they're
12:17also the ones calling for open borders
12:19they want everyone to share in the
12:20horror that is well it would just
12:21destroy the country as anybody with any
12:24sense knows so how it's all let me just
12:26say yeah the left is is it it's owes
12:33whatever ideas it has to Marx it's the
12:35Marxist paradig of the oppressors and
12:38the oppressed and it's an economic it
12:41begins as an economic and they've
12:43layered on race and gender um so but the
12:48fact is what determines a country's
12:51Prosperity is culture not classes it's
12:55culture America has a great culture we
12:59take in I me one of the things we do is
13:01we take in brilliant people from all
13:03over the world and uh give them freedom
13:06to innovate other countries copy our
13:09Innovations Israel is the same way it's
13:11why they hate
13:13it because they're bringing in people
13:15from all over the world giving them
13:17opportunity but but also it's the
13:19freedom yeah people do not appreciate
13:22freedom in this country obviously since
13:24we our universities are now totalitarian
13:27institutions I can't go to a university
13:30without bodyguards yeah and that's been
13:33true for the last 15 years I've been
13:36physically attacked if I didn't have
13:39bodyguards and if the university didn't
13:40put in place security I could never get
13:43through a speech yeah and I'm not alone
13:45it's any conservative no it's virtually
13:47any conservative and it's and now it's
13:49moderates and this is fascism and it's
13:52it's totally embedded in our University
13:55system yeah do you make a distinction
13:57between sort of the leaders who really
13:59understand the stuff that you're talking
14:01about so the people who who are the
14:03leaders of this leftist movement versus
14:06the the bulk of the people who I think
14:08are following along without bad
14:10intentions like when I see all these
14:12kids who I you know I mock them on
14:14Twitter of course people go to
14:15demonstrations and get laid
14:18Yeah Yeah you know and people are
14:20gullible and they don't think and they
14:22can't put two and two together the
14:25phrase I didn't want to skip this people
14:28of color is a racist phrase It's not
14:33English do we say here's a box of
14:36crayons of color it's French that's the
14:39way French people speak purp col or
14:43whatever they say yeah so it's a
14:45completely ideological construct what is
14:48its function well let's look at the
14:52Mexico two main ethnic
14:55groups the descendants of the Spanish
14:58conquistador do who slaughtered the
14:59indigenous Indians and the descendants
15:01of the indigenous Indians when they
15:04cross the border they're both people of
15:06color therefore they're oppressed both
15:07of them the
15:09Conquistadors and the indigenous people
15:11they're oppressed they deserve special
15:14sensitivities and special privileges
15:17maharajas in India are people of color
15:20beheaders in raqqa are people of color
15:25who aren't people of color white people
15:27yeah white people are evil bad this is a
15:30most this is this is the racist ideology
15:34of our time is it also lacking in
15:37several other ways I mean for example
15:38you could take American Indians uh
15:41people who've moved here from India or
15:43their grandparents moved here from India
15:44or you could take Asian people of
15:46virtually any nationality and they don't
15:49count in this leftist thing because they
15:52economically well the Indians hav't yeah
15:55the Native Americans I'm sorry no I that
15:57was a ridiculous
15:59now I'm going to we're not going to edit
16:01that out because I don't believe in that
16:02but that was an completely idiotic
16:03statement I I meant American Indians
16:07from India who moved to America not
16:09Native Americans correct yeah correct
16:11Chinese the Japanese I said American
16:13Indians not native americ thank you for
16:15that's correct I just ruined my course
16:18they don't like success minor you you
16:21know don't look over your
16:23shoulder there's only arrows there's
16:25only arrows
16:27coming um that was an Indian joke right
16:29there yeah I mean the the
16:33left is is pathetic intellectually they
16:36don't have an argument so they have to
16:39purge those groups because those groups
16:41yeah that's why they have to shut you up
16:42because they can't deal with your
16:44arguments is really simple
16:46straightforward and and it so invaded
16:48our literary culture the last two
16:50national book awards were given to
16:52racist tracks won by tanah heesy
16:55coats I can never remember the title um
16:59was it just a rank racist coats uh what
17:04what inspired him to write the book it's
17:06about how evil America is but how how
17:10was the murder of his friend not the
17:12murder the killing of his friend by a
17:15policeman in
17:16Maryland it turns out as he tells you
17:20that the policeman uh the policeman
17:22accused uh the Dead uh his dead friend
17:26of trying to run him over with his car
17:29the policeman is black so how what does
17:32coat say he was thinking white now if
17:35that isn't the purest racism yeah and
17:38this one now it's called stamp from the
17:40beginning it's a semil literate book
17:43that that I mean that that they have
17:45lowered their
17:46standards so dramatically is a it still
17:51shocks me because these are intelligent
17:53people that people give the awards but I
17:54should know better um but it opens with
17:59uh the police shootings of criminals in
18:02the last year which were totally
18:06distorted by black lives matter and
18:08other leftists into cops gunning down
18:12unarmed blacks these were predators and
18:14who did they pray pray on they prayed on
18:16black people Freddy gray I mean uh you
18:21know you could go on uh I can't even
18:23remember the names the guy in
18:25Ferguson
18:26um they're CRI who prey on black
18:30people but this guy has them as innocent
18:33blacks who are gunned down by racist
18:35cops so at the opening of his book which
18:37is which he has called the definitive
18:40history of racism in America he's
18:42exposed as a liar and he w a national
18:44book award so our institutions have been
18:47just generally corrupted yeah so what is
18:51by This Racist ideology of the left so
18:54for a lot of people hearing this I think
18:55a certain amount of people hearing this
18:56you're going to go yeah I get it see you
18:58don't talk quite like this which is why
19:00I think you're much harder to uh I'm I'm
19:03I I want to see you with a uh a
19:06so-called liberal I don't call them
19:08liberals CU they're bigots yeah well
19:10I've had many Progressive progressives
19:12on this show and I treat them with the
19:13same respect that I treat anybody else I
19:16I my general rule is I don't find that
19:18berating somebody or belittling them no
19:20but yeah I say I made this vow 30 30
19:24years ago that I was going to berate the
19:27left I was gonna
19:28okay hey hey LBJ how many kids did you
19:31kill today I actually when I was still
19:33sort of leaving the left I thought about
19:36that statement a lot saying let's see if
19:40I were a prisoner of war and I was in a
19:42room with my captor would I rather it
19:45was LBJ or hoi Min and it was a
19:51no-brainer so that's part of it is that
19:53you just constantly say the worst thing
19:55about your intellectual opponents
19:57because there's no end here that you
19:59just just constantly say anything to you
20:03and that's why I love Milo cuz he just
20:05throws it right back in their face and
20:08that's what really needs to be done
20:09these people need to be embarrassed
20:11although I'm probably Beyond
20:13embarrassment yeah I I mean ABC
20:17News Stephanopoulos is sitting there
20:19with Katrina Bannon who who Who's entire
20:22life has been spent apologizing for
20:25defending and uh advancing communist
20:27causes
20:28the hell is that that's
20:31ABC that's how far gone this country
20:38[Music]
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