Why Fast Food Got So Expensive — Transcript
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- 0:00The backlash began with just a photo.
- 0:03Here, at a rest stop off of Route 95 in
- 0:05Darien, Connecticut, between a Subway,
- 0:07Dunkin' Donuts, and Sparro, sits a
- 0:09McDonald's. In 2023, a traveler passing
- 0:12through was astonished by its prices.
- 0:15Instead of reaching for their wallets,
- 0:17they pulled out their phone to capture
- 0:18the absurdity. A Big Mac meal running
- 0:21nearly $18.
- 0:24The picture was posted on Twitter and
- 0:25accompanied by a question, and the
- 0:27response was overwhelming. The meal and
- 0:29its outlandish price tag went viral. It
- 0:32sparked conversation across social
- 0:34media. It made national news. It got so
- 0:37big that even McDonald's itself got
- 0:39involved, releasing a statement
- 0:41accompanied by a handy graphic aimed to
- 0:43bust some myths about just how expensive
- 0:45McDonald's had become over the past few
- 0:47years.
- 0:48What gave this story such staying power
- 0:50was that it felt like the perfect
- 0:52example of a phenomena that was a bigger
- 0:54than the Northeast and bigger than
- 0:56McDonald's, but instead one impacting
- 0:58all Americans at all fast and
- 1:00fast-casual food spots. That these cheap
- 1:03and convenient dining options were just
- 1:06no longer cheap. An $18 burger meal
- 1:09proved that point anecdotally, but some
- 1:11further research proved as much, too. In
- 1:13the past decade, overall food prices
- 1:15were trending higher than the overall
- 1:17consumer price index, and then prices
- 1:19for food away from home have trended yet
- 1:21higher again than overall food prices.
- 1:24Within the category of food away from
- 1:26home, more research showed, price growth
- 1:28at limited service restaurants, or fast
- 1:30and fast-casual, was outpacing sit-down
- 1:32restaurants. Fast food wasn't just
- 1:34reflecting broader rising costs for the
- 1:36American consumer, it was leading the
- 1:38charge.
- 1:40Now, accompanying the general outrage
- 1:41over an $18 Big Mac meal were the
- 1:44explanations as to how we got here.
- 1:46Often led by industry insiders or the
- 1:48industry itself, the explanations cited
- 1:50things simply out of fast food's
- 1:52control. Labor, for instance, had become
- 1:54more expensive after COVID. California
- 1:56had passed a bill that was going to hike
- 1:58minimum wage for fast food workers to
- 2:00$20 an hour. Retail ground beef prices
- 2:03had soared across the decade, too, while
- 2:05supplies like paper wrapping, cups, and
- 2:07packaging shot upward, as well. With
- 2:09trade wars, tariffs, stimulus checks,
- 2:11and increasing minimum wages, fast food
- 2:14chains were forced to get more expensive
- 2:16and hand these prices off to the
- 2:17customer. Or at least, that's what
- 2:19they'd like their customer base to
- 2:21believe.
- 2:22What's lost in this broadly true, but
- 2:25incomplete explanation is the fact that
- 2:27pricing is not just a reflection of
- 2:29strictly costs and constraints, but
- 2:31broader business strategy. Fast food is
- 2:34not just getting more expensive because
- 2:36of factors beyond the industry's
- 2:37control, it's getting more expensive
- 2:39because the business of fast food is
- 2:41changing on the fly.
- 2:43Compare these two burger joints on
- 2:44either side of I-5 in Burbank,
- 2:47California. One representing the cutting
- 2:49edge of fast food's change, [music] the
- 2:51other an industry outlier that simply
- 2:53refuses to change. These two storefronts
- 2:56offer a very similar product at a very
- 2:58similar price. The double-double at
- 3:00In-N-Out Burger costs $6.10,
- 3:03and the Big Mac at McDonald's at $6.49.
- 3:07Both offering a conceptually analogous
- 3:09item sold at about the same price is
- 3:11largely where the similarities between
- 3:13these two businesses end. Their business
- 3:16strategies and operations, in fact, are
- 3:18so different that In-N-Out wants you to
- 3:20buy a double-double burger, while
- 3:22McDonald's, on the other hand, actively
- 3:24hopes you don't.
- 3:26While a bit cheaper, on average, the
- 3:28consumer is going to find the
- 3:29double-double an objectively better
- 3:31product. Personal preference aside, the
- 3:33double-double is made up of ingredients
- 3:35that have never been frozen. The meat
- 3:37was processed by In-N-Out at one of
- 3:39these two locations that are both within
- 3:41a day's drive, while ingredients like
- 3:43buns have been contracted out to the
- 3:44same company since the 1950s, [music]
- 3:46ensuring freshness and consistent
- 3:48quality. That superior consistency and
- 3:50quality is then carried through the
- 3:52process of preparing those ingredients
- 3:53and interacting with the customer making
- 3:55the order as each location is laid out
- 3:57in an almost identical manner while
- 3:59staff is trained and expected to deliver
- 4:01a highly standardized product with a
- 4:03cheery, welcoming attitude. Whether by
- 4:05comparative Google reviews between
- 4:07Burbank locations or annual rankings for
- 4:09customer satisfaction, In-N-Out is going
- 4:12to beat McDonald's and it has to as it's
- 4:15core to the company's strategy.
- 4:18This In-N-Out and [music] every In-N-Out
- 4:20has a lot of staff to pay. Whereas
- 4:23McDonald's can run a slow shift with
- 4:24five to 10 employees, an In-N-Out will
- 4:26be staffed with 10 to 15 and during the
- 4:29lunch and dinner rushes, this number can
- 4:31regularly balloon to 25.
- 4:33And not only are there more people to
- 4:35pay, but they're getting paid better as
- 4:37this Burbank location starts its staff
- 4:39at $22 an hour with benefits and quick
- 4:42positional and pay advancement
- 4:44opportunities. With industry-leading pay
- 4:46and staffing and a comparatively cheap
- 4:48product, the chain saves through
- 4:50vertical integration. The company owns
- 4:52the locations rather than renting them.
- 4:54It operates its own meat processing and
- 4:56trucking and it sources products from
- 4:58pink lemonade to paperware from the same
- 5:00singular companies it has for decades.
- 5:02But those savings aside, to profit off a
- 5:04menu built around five and six-dollar
- 5:06burgers, this location needs to sell a
- 5:09lot.
- 5:11Because of a combination of quality and
- 5:13consistency, an In-N-Out customer will
- 5:15gladly brave a 20-minute drive-thru wait
- 5:17or stand in line for a few minutes
- 5:19without the privilege of ordering ahead
- 5:21or through an app. And because of this
- 5:23loyalty to the product, an average
- 5:25location does annual revenue of about $6
- 5:27million
- 5:28a year. McDonald's, on the other hand,
- 5:30averages about $4 million per location a
- 5:33year. More impressive still, In-N-Out
- 5:35pulls in 33% more business in 15% less
- 5:39time as its locations are open for an
- 5:41average of 14 and 1/2 hours a day
- 5:43compared to McDonald's' 17.
- 5:46Family-owned, consistent, [music] clean,
- 5:48simple, In-N-Out feels like what fast
- 5:51food was like at its founding in the
- 5:52'50s. But, that's exactly why it's so
- 5:55singular, so unique from the rest, and
- 5:57so small. In its home state of
- 5:59California, there are only 289 locations
- 6:02compared to over 1,200 McDonald's's
- 6:04within the state. Just within this
- 6:07narrow cross-section of Burbank,
- 6:08McDonald's outnumbers In-N-Out 4:1.
- 6:12>> [music]
- 6:12>> In-N-Out is tiny in the grand scheme of
- 6:14things, and in every trend of fast food,
- 6:16it's an outlier. But, the very fact that
- 6:19it competes with, and in many cases
- 6:21outcompetes the larger fast food chains
- 6:22on price while providing equal to better
- 6:24quality, shows that pricing is a tool, a
- 6:28choice, an extension of strategy rather
- 6:30than something simply forced upon the
- 6:32industry.
- 6:34With 14,000 locations in just the US,
- 6:37but just 5% of those locations operated
- 6:39by the publicly traded company,
- 6:40McDonald's as a corporation just can't
- 6:42maximize consistency or quality of
- 6:45products like In-N-Out. [music]
- 6:46Nor are they really incentivized to. You
- 6:49see, the transformation that shot prices
- 6:51through the roof began with a pivot,
- 6:53making breakfast available all day.
- 6:57In the 2010s, as year-over-year sales
- 6:59across US locations were either
- 7:00stagnating or falling, McDonald's, under
- 7:03new leadership, looked to counter the
- 7:05rise of fast casual restaurants
- 7:06encroaching on their territory. CEO
- 7:09Steve Easterbrook wanted McDonald's to
- 7:10be the modern, progressive burger
- 7:12company. That meant better quality
- 7:14chicken, fresher beef, more data-driven
- 7:17decisions, and a more capable mobile
- 7:19app. The first major move was that
- 7:21all-day breakfast extension. Customers
- 7:23had always clamored for this, surveys
- 7:25called for it, but leadership
- 7:27understandably had reservations. Would
- 7:29it be worth the kitchen remodels and
- 7:30complications? Would the move
- 7:32cannibalize lunch and dinner product
- 7:33performance? Rather than go off a hunch,
- 7:36they modeled it, leaning on a tech
- 7:37partnership with Applied Predictive
- 7:39Technologies, and rolling out a regional
- 7:41trial, and collecting receipt data with
- 7:42the help of the NPD group. The study
- 7:45showed that all day breakfast would
- 7:47bring customers they had lost back while
- 7:49also adding to overall receipt totals as
- 7:51midday diners were showing a tendency to
- 7:53toss a breakfast item like a McMuffin or
- 7:55hash brown on their order. Confident
- 7:57enough to push the franchise to remodel
- 7:59their kitchens and take on all day
- 8:00breakfast, the company began a major
- 8:03turnaround and they attributed to not
- 8:05just a host of breakfast items but the
- 8:07increasing importance of big tech and
- 8:09big data in the company's operations. It
- 8:11was [music] just the start.
- 8:14Consider these three transactions. One
- 8:17buying a Big Mac meal in Aztec, New
- 8:18Mexico, one buying a Big Mac meal in
- 8:21Newcastle, Colorado, and one buying the
- 8:23same product again, this time in
- 8:24Burbank, California. The difference in
- 8:26prices between the three reflect what
- 8:28McDonald's can't control, the
- 8:30independent [music] franchisee pricing
- 8:32that accounts for labor costs and other
- 8:34local factors.
- 8:35>> [music]
- 8:35>> But consider the medium through which
- 8:37each transaction occurred, two kiosks
- 8:39and a phone screen, and now McDonald's
- 8:41is greatest tool for business
- 8:42optimization comes into focus.
- 8:44Historically, a common refrain for those
- 8:47in the know was that McDonald's is a
- 8:49real estate company. This still holds
- 8:51true. They own much of the land on which
- 8:53their franchise locations sit. They
- 8:55count on rent as a core income stream.
- 8:58But in the last decade, McDonald's,
- 8:59along with its large competitors, have
- 9:01increasingly become a tech companies,
- 9:03too.
- 9:04Turning to tech allowed McDonald's to
- 9:06focus on a critical aspect of the
- 9:07company shortcomings that all day
- 9:09breakfast had hinted at, convenience.
- 9:12Customers wanted shorter wait times,
- 9:14faster orders, and ways to order ahead.
- 9:16In short, this meant screens. In 2019,
- 9:20the restaurant chain acquired a company
- 9:21called Dynamic Yield to help further
- 9:23optimize and personalize the ordering
- 9:25experience through past user data and
- 9:27trends. It was the largest acquisition
- 9:30by McDonald's in 20 years and it forever
- 9:33altered the ordering process.
- 9:35Take, again, getting a Big Mac. Now,
- 9:38really no matter its price, a Big Mac is
- 9:40either a loss leader or only derives a
- 9:42tiny turn of profit for McDonald's
- 9:44location. If you were to order one in
- 9:46the past then, whether in the drive-thru
- 9:48line or counter line, you'd be faced
- 9:49with a whole host of promotions of new
- 9:52products, drinks, or all-day breakfast
- 9:54items in the form of physical posters
- 9:56and banners on the menu. And when you
- 9:57went to order your simple sandwich,
- 9:59you'd be asked if you'd like to turn it
- 10:00into a meal. As french fries and
- 10:02especially fountain drinks have far
- 10:04better margins. Perhaps you'd be tempted
- 10:06to do so because McDonald's, after all,
- 10:09has years of experience and tricks in
- 10:10getting you to spend a little bit more.
- 10:13McDonald's has a long used meal pricing
- 10:15decoy strategies, for example, to make
- 10:17the large meal feel so similarly priced
- 10:19to the medium that you go ahead and opt
- 10:21for the large. If you were to leave with
- 10:23just a sandwich, that'd be a loss for
- 10:25the chain. If you were to leave with a
- 10:26sandwich, a drink, and an odd end
- 10:28add-on, McDonald's would count that as a
- 10:31win. But now, Dynamic Yield, the kiosk,
- 10:35the McDonald's app, and drive-thru have
- 10:37all taken this to the next level through
- 10:39far smarter, far more personalized sales
- 10:42tactics.
- 10:44Digitized, personalized, customized
- 10:46menus means long gone are the days of
- 10:49the drive-thru board listing every
- 10:51possible meal item. Today, if you're
- 10:53planning on ordering at the counter or
- 10:55off the digital menu at the drive-thru,
- 10:56you're only going to see the options the
- 10:58company wants you to see. At this New
- 11:00Mexico location, the only listings and
- 11:02prices are for extra value meals. If
- 11:04you're planning on just ordering a Big
- 11:05Mac and not the meal, you're going to
- 11:07have to ask. And if you want to know the
- 11:09exact price before committing, you'll
- 11:11have to ask for that, too. You can still
- 11:13order anything off the menu, of course,
- 11:15but a curated menu passively pushes your
- 11:17order towards what they want to sell.
- 11:19And this goes both ways, too. The
- 11:21company actively wants to make a sale,
- 11:23too, and is pushing options that have
- 11:25proved popular. Or, say if it's a super
- 11:27hot day, it'll push items like ice cream
- 11:29and cold drinks that it assumes will be
- 11:31popular. This creation also keeps things
- 11:33moving quicker, too, as a massive menu
- 11:35with every offering slows lines to a
- 11:37crawl during rush hours. So, to optimize
- 11:40the convenience factor the company leans
- 11:41on, it keeps these menus simple.
- 11:44If you want the full menu, you'll have
- 11:45to turn to the kiosks or the app, but
- 11:47it's going to be in exchange for your
- 11:48data, or at least asking for your data.
- 11:51Your location and your order habits are
- 11:53hugely helpful for McDonald's to
- 11:54optimize for efficiency, so when you use
- 11:57a kiosk, it'll ask you to log into your
- 11:58McDonald's account, and then it'll ask
- 12:01again. And once in, you'll just have to
- 12:03maneuver around the headline items like
- 12:04the brand new refreshers and the top
- 12:06ticket items like the Arch Burger, a
- 12:08novelty luxury item with fairly good
- 12:10margins, to get to your sandwich of
- 12:12choice. The app is going to be less
- 12:13pushy to get you to log in because once
- 12:15in, you stay logged in and you're
- 12:17incentivized to stay through the
- 12:18accumulation of points and the varying
- 12:20personal promotions, whether it's a free
- 12:22item on your birthday or a boilerplate
- 12:24limited time free medium fry with any
- 12:26order to hopefully get you in the door.
- 12:29Such deals create loyalty both ways,
- 12:31while also allowing McDonald's to better
- 12:33suggest and surface items to a customer
- 12:35based on their past orders. And it
- 12:37provides user data that then goes on to
- 12:39inform strategy and pricing
- 12:40company-wide. If, for example, you're
- 12:42consistently ordering Big Macs when
- 12:44they're $6.10, then when the price goes
- 12:46up to $6.49, you no longer order the
- 12:49sandwich, or worse yet, you no longer
- 12:51spend at McDonald's, that's extremely
- 12:53valuable information for the company to
- 12:55have. And ultimately information that
- 12:57the company will act on. While altering
- 12:58the quality of the product or the
- 13:00products itself presents a massive
- 13:02undertaking for a chain so big, screens
- 13:04and big data allow McDonald's to better
- 13:06alter and fine-tune prices and offerings
- 13:09to best match what the customer is
- 13:11willing to pay. Where In-N-Out optimizes
- 13:13through what it controls in the physical
- 13:14world, the big chains optimize through
- 13:17the digital.
- 13:18In the wake of the $18 Big Mac meal
- 13:20going viral, concerns over McDonald's'
- 13:23pricing strategy were voiced in an
- 13:24earnings call. The company was losing
- 13:26its important lower income customer and
- 13:29the perceived value of the company's
- 13:30products in relation to price was
- 13:32declining. The answer came in the form
- 13:35of a major value push. First, the $5
- 13:38meal deal launched in mid-2024, then the
- 13:41McValue menu the year following. Both
- 13:43span breakfast and lunch items, both
- 13:45have marked a pivot in sales and broadly
- 13:47have proved to work. And yet, if you
- 13:49were to go to this McDonald's location
- 13:51in Darien, Connecticut, a Big Mac meal
- 13:53would still run you nearly $18.
- 13:56And that's because the word perceived in
- 13:58perceived value is doing a ton of work.
- 14:02McDonald's is not in the business of
- 14:03quality food or cheap food so much as
- 14:06it's in the business of convenient food
- 14:08at a stomachable price. That's why the
- 14:10company developed the app, it's why it
- 14:12revamped drive-thru menus to get average
- 14:14ticket times down. It needs to provide a
- 14:16product at [music] pace. More
- 14:18accurately, it needs to provide products
- 14:20at pace. It needs to be a place where
- 14:23you can grab lunch, a coffee drink, and
- 14:25a bag of ice all at the same time. But a
- 14:27customer will only act on such
- 14:29convenience so long as they believe
- 14:31they're not getting ripped off for a
- 14:32fairly unspectacular product. So
- 14:34McDonald's pores over the data, tinkers
- 14:37with prices, alters its value menu
- 14:38offerings over and over to find the
- 14:40precise price point that the customer
- 14:43will tolerate.
- 14:44Recently, the company launched its own
- 14:46line of refreshers and they're pushing
- 14:47the product hard. Now, these products,
- 14:50simply by being drinks, have high
- 14:52returns. But they also create incentive
- 14:54in the customer to alter habits. Rather
- 14:56than going to Starbucks, one could just
- 14:58hop in the McDonald's app and order one
- 15:00of these along with a food item that
- 15:01Starbucks can't match. At $3.69 to
- 15:04$4.69, these drinks aren't cheap, but
- 15:08they're comparatively cheaper. They're
- 15:10cheaper than the options at Dutch Bros,
- 15:12Starbucks, and Sonic. They're just cheap
- 15:14enough, the company hopes, for the
- 15:16customer to think they're getting decent
- 15:17value for their money and benefiting
- 15:19from the convenience of being able to
- 15:20grab food in the same stop that they'll
- 15:22change up their typical afternoon
- 15:23refresher routine and instead bring
- 15:25their business over to the golden
- 15:26arches.
- 15:28The tech pivot is broader than
- 15:29McDonald's. Taco Bell, owned by the
- 15:31publicly traded Yum Brand, has turned to
- 15:33a bifurcated menu with extreme value
- 15:36items and high-dollar bundle items
- 15:38pushed through the app. Practically
- 15:39every fast and fast-casual restaurant
- 15:41from Jimmy John's to Panera Bread have
- 15:43mobile apps and digital loyalty
- 15:45programs. Wendy's found itself in hot
- 15:47water when it launched a digital menu
- 15:49system that could potentially alter
- 15:51prices of products midday. Customers
- 15:53called it surge pricing, and the outcry
- 15:55started a larger conversation over an
- 15:57accusation that no restaurant wants to
- 15:59be associated with, dynamic pricing. Of
- 16:02course, none in the industry want to be
- 16:04associated with dynamic pricing given
- 16:06how much distrust the label engenders.
- 16:09But the technology exists, the data and
- 16:11the data processing exists, and already
- 16:13in just about every big chain, though it
- 16:15doesn't happen over the course of the
- 16:16day, the prices of products do change
- 16:19and the value menus shift around every
- 16:21few months. It may seem too far of a
- 16:23reach now, but pricing structures that
- 16:25shift by the hour and by the customer
- 16:28would fit the larger optimization and
- 16:30efficiency pushes that fast-food has
- 16:32leaned [music] into the last decade.
- 16:34Customers have come to stomach rising
- 16:36costs, so perhaps, if slowly and quietly
- 16:39implemented, they'll come to embrace
- 16:40dynamic ones, too.
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