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Why do portals create pocket dimension when you put a small portal into a bigger portal? — Transcript

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  1. 0:00We already know what happens if you put a portal's exit into its entrance —
  2. 0:04it comes out of itself and hits the edge.
  3. 0:07But what if you make it small enough, so it fits?
  4. 0:10You've asked me this countless times, and I was curious myself.
  5. 0:14But it broke in my program, and I had no idea how to solve it.
  6. 0:18Until NOW. I finally have the solution.
  7. 0:21Let's check it out.
  8. 0:22Look at this tiny portal.
  9. 0:23It's moving forward, forward, and it emerges somewhere.
  10. 0:27Let's revolve around.
  11. 0:29Wait. Where did it go?
  12. 0:31The portal created a pocket dimension?
  13. 0:33Yes. And this is the correct answer,
  14. 0:35which we will explore in detail in this video.
  15. 0:38The key to all of this is one overlooked portal axiom
  16. 0:41that not only explains this result, but also unlocks amazing new possibilities
  17. 0:46for other portals and completely flips our understanding of portal physics.
  18. 0:51You are on the Optozorax channel. My name is Ilya.
  19. 0:53Let's get started.
  20. 0:55Let's take two portals.
  21. 0:57They can teleport an object.
  22. 0:59If we turn off light teleportation, then we can see the teleporting surface.
  23. 1:03When crossing this surface,
  24. 1:05an object or light teleports to the other portal.
  25. 1:07That's exactly how it works in my program: when a light ray hits this surface,
  26. 1:12it jumps to another location and keeps going.
  27. 1:15In one of my previous videos, I showed an axiom that says
  28. 1:18"a portal's behavior doesn't depend on the shape of its surface".
  29. 1:22So we can make it hemispherical and nothing really changes.
  30. 1:26Let's dive into how this works.
  31. 1:29First, let's look at how a light ray behaves
  32. 1:31with different surfaces.
  33. 1:33A light ray that starts here
  34. 1:34and going in this direction does not change at all.
  35. 1:37But if we make the shape hemispherical,
  36. 1:40the light ray first teleports to the orange portal,
  37. 1:43then back to the blue one,
  38. 1:45and ends up in exactly the same spot as with the flat surface.
  39. 1:49This explains why changing its shape does not affect how portal looks.
  40. 1:54Object teleportation works the same way.
  41. 1:57But look, with a flat surface, the back part is flat,
  42. 2:01but with the other surface it looks completely different.
  43. 2:04That does not really match our axiom.
  44. 2:06To solve this problem, we can turn the back surface into a portal too.
  45. 2:11It turns out, this axiom only works for two-sided portals,
  46. 2:14which we have not explored before.
  47. 2:17By the way, notice that at some point, the object does not actually teleport,
  48. 2:21but it looks like it did,
  49. 2:23as if the teleporting surface is drawn around it.
  50. 2:26What if we do the same with the portal?
  51. 2:29Let's take an ellipsoidal portal with a similar surface and place it
  52. 2:33inside itself as far as it can go.
  53. 2:36And here is how it looks with light teleportation.
  54. 2:39Now it looks like the orange part teleports the blue part.
  55. 2:43Although this doesn't actually happen.
  56. 2:45Remember how I used to do this before?
  57. 2:48I created multiple degrees of teleportation
  58. 2:51and filtered them in a special way.
  59. 2:54So I could have skipped all that work and just made such teleporting surface
  60. 2:58to get the same result?!
  61. 2:59Well, it turns out, these approaches are equivalent.
  62. 3:03So the next logical step is to take a small portal
  63. 3:06with a hemispherical surface and simply place it in the orange part.
  64. 3:11And that's the entire solution.
  65. 3:13Inside, we get a pocket dimension.
  66. 3:16Later in the video, we will discover if it can be moved indefinitely,
  67. 3:20figure out how infinite space emerges and conduct many experiments.
  68. 3:24But first, I want to tell you how I came to this discovery.
  69. 3:28After publishing my previous videos,
  70. 3:30I thought I'd shown absolutely everything possible
  71. 3:33and there was nothing left to discover about portals.
  72. 3:37Scrolling through Twitter, I found this message:
  73. 3:39"You can actually put a portal INSIDE itself
  74. 3:42fully by using the half-sphere portals."
  75. 3:44I thought, "Hmm, nothing interesting.
  76. 3:47The guy just moved a portal.
  77. 3:49Of course, a small hemisphere will fit in a large one."
  78. 3:52But hemispherical portals work exactly the same as flat ones, so
  79. 3:57he placed a flat portal inside itself???
  80. 4:00I was flabbergasted.
  81. 4:02This discovery is what led me to quit my job
  82. 4:05and focus on YouTube to make this video.
  83. 4:08And this guy deserves credit — he did this using a scene editor to get this result.
  84. 4:13Before that, I had tried
  85. 4:15to solve the small portal problem in a million ways,
  86. 4:18analyzed all possible matrices, tried different calculation methods,
  87. 4:23but nothing worked and I eventually gave up.
  88. 4:26But let's figure out why exactly this axiom is true —
  89. 4:30beyond the fact that it just looks right.
  90. 4:32There are two types of portals: scanner-printer and spatial.
  91. 4:37A scanner-printer portal scans and destroys an object on one side
  92. 4:41and recreates it on the other.
  93. 4:43This would need tons of energy,
  94. 4:45and this kind of portal could theoretically exist in our world.
  95. 4:50But it disobeys our axiom because it has only one active surface,
  96. 4:54and its shape affects its behavior.
  97. 4:57Later in the video, I'll propose an experiment to measure this surface.
  98. 5:02Now about the spatial portal.
  99. 5:05I borrowed this clip from the video "The Shape of Space",
  100. 5:08which I highly recommend.
  101. 5:10It shows how a torus unfolds into a flat sheet of space.
  102. 5:14A torus has such a structure that in the flat version,
  103. 5:18the right side leads to the left and the top leads to bottom.
  104. 5:22You could say this works just like portals.
  105. 5:25And these portals create this shape in the form of a torus.
  106. 5:29So what would the shape of a space look like for our portals?
  107. 5:34To show this, I wrote an entirely new program
  108. 5:37capable of simulating this curvature of space.
  109. 5:40For example, this is how a flat torus looks in it.
  110. 5:44We see that the blue square teleports between top and bottom,
  111. 5:47while the green square teleports between the right and left edges.
  112. 5:51My program glues left to right and top to bottom.
  113. 5:55Then it runs a simulation to which shape this will lead to.
  114. 5:59It moves in a funny way and converges to a torus.
  115. 6:02With this torus, both squares end up continuous.
  116. 6:06Next, let's take this scene on a plane.
  117. 6:09Here we have a two-sided portal.
  118. 6:11The blue square teleports and moves in a circle,
  119. 6:14while the green one simply teleports.
  120. 6:16In the simulation, this part of the portal is glued to another part.
  121. 6:20I start the simulation and it converges to this shape.
  122. 6:24As we can see, the green square doesn't appear to teleport at all.
  123. 6:28And if we rotate the view, we can see a cylindrical surface in the back,
  124. 6:32and the blue square moves in a circle within it.
  125. 6:35And when viewed from this angle,
  126. 6:37it resembles a visual representation of a wormhole.
  127. 6:41Now let's examine a portal with a different teleporting surface.
  128. 6:45Similarly, this surface in one place is glued to this surface in another place.
  129. 6:50We start the simulation, and it converges to exactly the same shape.
  130. 6:55You could say that portals in this configuration inherently define
  131. 6:58this shape, and the teleporting surface is simply our choice
  132. 7:03of how we cut through that shape to represent space in a flat way.
  133. 7:07This means the teleporting surface is a virtual entity —
  134. 7:11something we use for our convenience.
  135. 7:14And that's exactly what justifies the axiom introduced in this video.
  136. 7:19From here, we can derive many interesting things.
  137. 7:22For example, a doorway and a portal represent the same local space.
  138. 7:27Furthermore, we could say that a portal doesn't just have one teleporting surface,
  139. 7:32but that all possible surfaces exist simultaneously,
  140. 7:35and at the same time none of them truly exist.
  141. 7:40Also, for a spatial portal, there is no such thing
  142. 7:43as "before teleportation" and "after teleportation."
  143. 7:47Now let me clarify
  144. 7:48that I am using hemispherical portals only because they are easier to program.
  145. 7:54In reality, the surface can be anything: flat, hemispherical, zigzagging.
  146. 8:00It can even intersect itself.
  147. 8:02The only constraint is that the one part must not intersect the other,
  148. 8:06as shown here.
  149. 8:08But, actually,
  150. 8:09even a broken surface like this can be fixed.
  151. 8:12We just need to teleport this piece to the orange portal.
  152. 8:16However, I avoid doing that
  153. 8:18because those are the same calculations as degrees of teleportation,
  154. 8:23and they are not easy to implement.
  155. 8:25This is just a quick tour of my new space curvature simulation program.
  156. 8:30I haven't explained how it works,
  157. 8:32why there are holes here,
  158. 8:35what the Nash embedding theorem has to do with this, and much more.
  159. 8:39In the future, I'd also like to simulate the curvature of space for a portal
  160. 8:43inside another portal or for a moving portal.
  161. 8:47But all of this will take a lot of time and effort.
  162. 8:50Let me know if you want a dedicated video about that.
  163. 8:54Now for the experiments.
  164. 8:56Let's see how an object passes through such a portal.
  165. 8:59Without light teleportation enabled, nothing unusual happens.
  166. 9:02The object simply gets bigger.
  167. 9:05But when light teleportation is on, we see multiple copies of the object.
  168. 9:09It is important to understand that these are only reflections.
  169. 9:13There is always just one object. You can't physically duplicate it.
  170. 9:17You can even rotate the view inside the portal and look at
  171. 9:20all these reflected copies.
  172. 9:22This leads us to the next question:
  173. 9:24how does infinite space appear inside the portal,
  174. 9:27and why is it so dark in there?
  175. 9:30I created a new feature for the camera.
  176. 9:32Now it can teleport through portal.
  177. 9:34To demonstrate this, we rotate inside a portal-within-a-portal scene.
  178. 9:39Here is how it looks with light teleportation,
  179. 9:43and here it is with both modes enabled.
  180. 9:46Each time we teleport, we see only two hemispheres.
  181. 9:49But because the portals work so seamlessly,
  182. 9:52we don't notice the transition.
  183. 9:54This is how infinite space is formed:
  184. 9:56with each teleportation, you become smaller and smaller,
  185. 9:59which means you can fit infinite space inside a finite volume.
  186. 10:05By the way, I want to emphasize
  187. 10:07that pocket dimension technically exist right here, between the two portals.
  188. 10:12Nothing actually separate from the universe is created.
  189. 10:15It just appears that way.
  190. 10:17So why is it so dark in there?
  191. 10:20Because many light rays get stuck in teleportation loops.
  192. 10:23We can demonstrate this by flying in this direction.
  193. 10:26Let's turn on the dual-mode display.
  194. 10:28As we fly, we see constant teleportation, but no visible exit.
  195. 10:33In my program, when a light ray gets trapped and teleports endlessly,
  196. 10:37it's rendered as black.
  197. 10:40Now, let's take a look at another scene.
  198. 10:42Here, the two portals are facing each other,
  199. 10:45and the small one enters the larger one head-on.
  200. 10:47This resembles that GIF where two portals move toward each other,
  201. 10:52or that video you've probably seen.
  202. 10:54With flat portals, this would be an unsolvable situation.
  203. 10:58But now we can place this small portal inside.
  204. 11:01We fly through it and turn around, and we see
  205. 11:04a pyramid of all degrees of teleportation stretching in both directions infinitely.
  206. 11:09It's still just one portal,
  207. 11:11but the space is folded in such a way that we perceive multiple copies.
  208. 11:15Just like with the object, there is only one instance.
  209. 11:19And can we move this portal forward infinitely?
  210. 11:22Let's take this shape and move it.
  211. 11:24As soon as it touches its own surface, everything breaks.
  212. 11:27One part of the surface begins to intersect the other.
  213. 11:30But since the portal is smaller,
  214. 11:32we can keep increasing the length of its surface indefinitely,
  215. 11:36allowing it to move farther and farther without intersecting anything.
  216. 11:40So, yes, the portal can move forward forever.
  217. 11:43And this is what it would look like.
  218. 11:45Just make sure not to drop anything in such a portal
  219. 11:48or it will be lost forever.
  220. 11:50For infinite movement in other scenes like this one,
  221. 11:53we need to change the shape of the surface in a smarter way.
  222. 11:56But it's generally possible.
  223. 11:58This is the main limitation of this surface shape approach.
  224. 12:02The surfaces must not intersect, otherwise the image breaks and becomes nonsensical.
  225. 12:08It turns out we can't come up with a single portal surface
  226. 12:11that will work in all cases.
  227. 12:13For each individual case, we need a new surface shape.
  228. 12:16For example, let's recall these ellipsoidal portals.
  229. 12:20Here, the hemispherical surface has reached its limit.
  230. 12:23It touches the boundary.
  231. 12:25We can't enlarge it anymore.
  232. 12:27But with light teleportation,
  233. 12:28we see that the portal hasn't fully entered the other portal.
  234. 12:32My flat portals with degrees of teleportation
  235. 12:35worked perfectly in such situation.
  236. 12:37So we need to devise
  237. 12:39a new, more complex surface shape for the portal to fully enter here.
  238. 12:43Or we need to somehow combine these two approaches into one,
  239. 12:47so that it can solve all possible problems.
  240. 12:50I've already found a solution, and it's very unusual.
  241. 12:54But more on that in the next video.
  242. 12:56Also, in the next video,
  243. 12:58I'll show whether it's possible to put a normal sized portal inside itself.
  244. 13:03So be sure to subscribe, so you don't miss it.
  245. 13:06Another reason why this is an incredible discovery
  246. 13:10is that this idea can even be generalized to the triple portal,
  247. 13:13which I showed in this video.
  248. 13:15The regular triple portal is one-sided because it has this closed back surface.
  249. 13:21And to make it two sided, you need to add another portal to each part,
  250. 13:25so that each part looks like the letter Y.
  251. 13:28Now our axiom works for this portal.
  252. 13:31This means we can create a non-flat teleportation shape like this,
  253. 13:35using a third of a sphere. It's quite non-trivial shape,
  254. 13:38but it works exactly the same as ordinary triple portals.
  255. 13:43And since we have such a shape, now we can place two portals into another one.
  256. 13:47Let's say like this.
  257. 13:49Let's get closer, turn on light teleportation,
  258. 13:52and we can revolve inside just like we did for other portals.
  259. 13:56Here we get such a beautiful and complex fractal,
  260. 13:59because the triple portal connects space in a more complex way.
  261. 14:04And the same can be done with a cylindrical portal.
  262. 14:07Here you can inflate the surface like this,
  263. 14:09and the portal will work exactly the same way.
  264. 14:12Now, let's shrink one part and place it in the center.
  265. 14:16Next, let's fly in.
  266. 14:17We see that there is an infinite black space again,
  267. 14:21and the portals are arranged in the shape of an hourglass.
  268. 14:25Let's turn off light teleportation and inflate the surface again,
  269. 14:29so that the portal can move beyond the flat boundaries.
  270. 14:33And now the same movement, but with light teleportation turned on.
  271. 14:37And from this position, you can rotate this portal.
  272. 14:41This new approach is perfect for creating mesmerizing animations.
  273. 14:47Or you can rotate it another way.
  274. 14:50It's interesting how the angular velocity of rotation
  275. 14:53increases to infinity as the size decreases.
  276. 14:57Now about the physics.
  277. 14:59Let me clarify that I'll be using the terms
  278. 15:02"before teleportation" and "after teleportation"
  279. 15:05because it's easier to program and reason about
  280. 15:07different surfaces. And it's easier to understand
  281. 15:10what leads to contradictions and what doesn't.
  282. 15:13We need to remember that no place
  283. 15:15before or after teleportation exists anymore.
  284. 15:19Let's take this scene,
  285. 15:21which we've already discussed in one of my previous videos.
  286. 15:24There is no gravity or air resistance here.
  287. 15:28The portal moves uniformly and in a straight line by inertia.
  288. 15:33It has no acceleration and it does not stop anywhere.
  289. 15:37Before teleportation,
  290. 15:38the object is stationary and it moves after teleportation.
  291. 15:42People don't like that the object somehow gains momentum in this scene.
  292. 15:47After all, portals work like doorways.
  293. 15:50And when a doorway runs into you, nothing happens.
  294. 15:53Yes, because in a doorway, the entrance and exit
  295. 15:56move at the same speed relative to each other.
  296. 15:59But in this case, they move at different speeds.
  297. 16:02People probably assume that the portal should behave something like this,
  298. 16:07when the object stops immediately after teleportation
  299. 16:10to avoid gaining any momentum.
  300. 16:13We remember that this can't be the case
  301. 16:15because there is no moment after teleportation.
  302. 16:19But let's try to follow this logic.
  303. 16:21I think everyone agrees that the object should be
  304. 16:24stationary BEFORE teleportation right here.
  305. 16:28So here is the big brain move —
  306. 16:29what if I make a teleporting surface like this?
  307. 16:32Here, the object NEVER teleports,
  308. 16:34and it's always stationary, but it looks as if it teleported and gained momentum.
  309. 16:40As we remember, any law of portals must work the same for all surfaces.
  310. 16:45So for this scene, the only working option is the movement after teleportation.
  311. 16:50This kind of stopping can only work for one flat surface.
  312. 16:55But movement after the teleportation works for any surface.
  313. 16:59But this is only if we accept this axiom,
  314. 17:02which gives such incredible results as pocket dimension.
  315. 17:06Let's continue.
  316. 17:07In this scene, the portal moves in a circle instead of a straight line —
  317. 17:12which means it is constantly accelerating and changing direction of its speed.
  318. 17:16Let's add an object here.
  319. 17:18And now the question is:
  320. 17:19how will the object move after teleportation?
  321. 17:22The first option — it will move in a straight line.
  322. 17:26Look, before teleportation, it moved in a circle.
  323. 17:29This is the gray trajectory.
  324. 17:31And after teleportation,
  325. 17:32it started moving in a straight line by inertia and acquired rotation.
  326. 17:37This fits a scanner-printer portal,
  327. 17:40which have a specific surface that exerted force on the exiting object.
  328. 17:44So now it moves according to the normal laws of physics.
  329. 17:48And this is a way to measure the surface of a scanner-printer portal
  330. 17:51when we can't see it.
  331. 17:53In the same situation, we launch multiple objects before teleportation.
  332. 17:57They move in a circle, and then they start moving in a straight line.
  333. 18:02If the surface were different,
  334. 18:03for example, hemispherical, the objects would start moving
  335. 18:07in a straight line at a different moment in time.
  336. 18:10And by using this, we could calculate this surface.
  337. 18:13The second solution to this problem — the object continues to move in a circle.
  338. 18:17This fits perfectly for spatial portals.
  339. 18:20And that's because we can design such a surface
  340. 18:23where the object never teleported, but it looks like it's moving in a circle.
  341. 18:28This is even better seen if you stand in the object's position.
  342. 18:32So what does this mean?
  343. 18:33It looks like action at a distance that applies to everything
  344. 18:37that passes through portals.
  345. 18:38If you entered a portal and it started moving differently,
  346. 18:42then this will affect you from any distance.
  347. 18:45This is absurd!
  348. 18:46This is a very, very bad result and a real reason to doubt our axiom!
  349. 18:51Or something else needs to be rethought.
  350. 18:55And now my favorite picture.
  351. 18:57If you don't know it, pause and decide what you choose.
  352. 19:01I've always been for option B
  353. 19:03where the object flies out of the portal with some speed.
  354. 19:07And I never understood supporters of option A,
  355. 19:10where the object stops immediately after teleportation and slides down.
  356. 19:15But now I understand that there is more than meets the eye.
  357. 19:19This picture is essentially a combination of the two previous scenes.
  358. 19:23First, the portal moves without any acceleration
  359. 19:26at a constant speed, and then it stops.
  360. 19:29And this stopping moment is what I've been ignoring all this time.
  361. 19:33After all, this is accelerated movement,
  362. 19:36which gave us an absurd in the previous scene.
  363. 19:39Now, what if we make a hemispherical teleporting surface for the portal?
  364. 19:43When the portal stops, it never teleported anything
  365. 19:46and the object was always in its original place.
  366. 19:49So then option B is correct for a flat surface
  367. 19:52and the option A is correct for hemispherical surface.
  368. 19:56And which one to choose?
  369. 19:57I don't have an answer, but I have something better.
  370. 20:01Direction to an answer.
  371. 20:02Portal gravitational waves.
  372. 20:04I think that an accelerating portal should emit something like gravitational waves
  373. 20:09that propagate at the speed of light and affect objects.
  374. 20:13Thus, we can avoid action at a distance.
  375. 20:15It seems that when stopping,
  376. 20:17the gravitational wave should somehow slow down the object,
  377. 20:21and the final answer should be something in between A and B.
  378. 20:24But to research this, one needs to know the theory of relativity and its math.
  379. 20:29But I am not familiar with this.
  380. 20:32So, my friends, I will leave the physics to you
  381. 20:35while I responsible for the geometry.
  382. 20:37But, again, this is just an idea.
  383. 20:40Maybe I'm wrong, and everything should work differently.
  384. 20:43As always, you can try out everything that I showed here in my web demo.
  385. 20:49And now there is another one too.
  386. 20:52For the next video, most of the work is already done.
  387. 20:55It will be coming soon.
  388. 20:57By the way, now I have a Discord server where you can chat about portals.
  389. 21:03And thanks for watching.

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