Why Did The Soviet Union Fall? — Transcript
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- 0:02what happened to the USSR there's quite
- 0:05a bit of Mythology around the
- 0:06dissolution in the largest nation of the
- 0:08previous Century every side of the
- 0:09spectrum has given their reasoning with
- 0:11some being more believable than others
- 0:13here I hope to show the common arguments
- 0:15and hopefully help you reach your own
- 0:16conclusions
- 0:17this video is a partial transcript based
- 0:19on the book socialism trade behind the
- 0:21collapse of the Soviet Union by Roger
- 0:22Kieran and Thomas Kenny I strongly
- 0:24recommend you pick the book up it is by
- 0:25far the best study of the dissolution of
- 0:27the SSR that I've ever come across
- 0:28anyways let's get into it according to
- 0:30the book these arguments can be broken
- 0:32down into six categories found in
- 0:33academic literature supposed laws of
- 0:36socialism popular opposition external
- 0:38factors bureaucratic counter-revolution
- 0:41lack of democracy and over
- 0:42centralization and the Gorbachev Factor
- 0:54those that support the first Theory
- 0:56think all strands of socialism no matter
- 0:58how unique are equally doomed to fail
- 1:00usually they bring this down to the
- 1:02human nature argument as flawed an
- 1:04argument as it may be it appeals to the
- 1:06superiority of the free market those
- 1:08that support this Theory or variations
- 1:10thereof include Martin Malia Richard
- 1:12pipes and Dimitri volcanov
- 1:15despite the many achievements of Soviet
- 1:18socialism the system did have many flaws
- 1:20during the 80s issues with consumer
- 1:22goods slow penetration of computer
- 1:24technology following productivity
- 1:26differing levels of corruption and the
- 1:27notorious second economy
- 1:29problems extended into the political
- 1:31sphere as well where overlapping party
- 1:33and state functions reduced local
- 1:35overhead and kept political initiative
- 1:36at the very top of course many of these
- 1:39problems arise from a myriad of other
- 1:40issues like the cold war the Relentless
- 1:42economic and other Warfare waged by the
- 1:44us against the USSR and the heavy burden
- 1:46of supporting allies abroad the point
- 1:48however is that none of these problems
- 1:50were large enough to cause the fall to
- 1:52so Union they didn't cause crisis let
- 1:53alone collapse to quote the book The
- 1:56Trouble with this theory is that as you
- 1:57Soviet history as unfolding towards an
- 1:59inevitable demise because of its
- 2:00departures from Human Nature private
- 2:02property and the free market though
- 2:03these years gained ascendancy in the US
- 2:05during the Reagan Era a few historians
- 2:07subscribe to historical determinism
- 2:08based on human nature in addition the
- 2:11series utterly incapable explaining how
- 2:13Soviet socialism survived the
- 2:14collectivization of Agriculture and the
- 2:15German invasion World War II only to
- 2:17fall apart under the seemingly far
- 2:19lesser challenges of the 1980s
- 2:21nothing makes this clearer than
- 2:23sovietological work from the 1980s which
- 2:25in full confidence considers the USSR to
- 2:27be a force that's here to stay for a
- 2:29deeper dive take a look at these two
- 2:31videos here
- 2:33foreign
- 2:35suggests that popular opposition to the
- 2:37Soviet system brought it down although
- 2:39known explicitly holds this opinion is
- 2:42frequently cited as a major reason they
- 2:44include things like intellectual
- 2:45dissidents protests the rise of
- 2:47nationalists and the relative electoral
- 2:48success of non-communist officials in
- 2:50the latter ERA this line of thinking
- 2:52isn't entirely wrong as many Soviet
- 2:54economists did favor Market forms and
- 2:56these opinions influenced that of
- 2:57gorbachevs
- 2:59other examples include the Georgian and
- 3:01azerbaijani protests they help evil in
- 3:03the Baltic Republic's minor strikes and
- 3:05the unopposed activity of non-communist
- 3:07officials in high government positions
- 3:08the problem with this theory is that
- 3:10popular discontent came up towards the
- 3:11end of Gorbachev's reforms not before
- 3:13these upheavals occurred in response to
- 3:15Gorbachev's policies in clearer terms
- 3:17those policies caused these issues in
- 3:20the final analysis popular opposition
- 3:22acted as a dependent rather than an
- 3:23independent variable a byproduct of
- 3:25Gorbachev's policies rather than their
- 3:27cause this is further strengthened by
- 3:29the prevalence resistance of the Soviet
- 3:31people against dissolving the Union as
- 3:33in chapter 6 of this very book Albert
- 3:35shamanski's work too here is relevant if
- 3:37you're interested in further reading
- 3:40according to the third Theory external
- 3:42factors rooted in the Cold War and the
- 3:44global economy caused the Soviet
- 3:46collapse extreme opinions even go as far
- 3:48as to say that the Betrayal of Soviet
- 3:49socialism was due to the cia's
- 3:51penetration of Soviet leadership now the
- 3:53extent of this penetration was far worse
- 3:55than you may realize according to one
- 3:57later report by 1985 the CIA and FBI had
- 3:59developed the most impressive inventory
- 4:01of spies against Russia in American
- 4:03history and had riddled the KGB and grew
- 4:06which was the military intelligence with
- 4:07moles still unless further Revelation
- 4:10shows that gorbashev or Yakov Lev served
- 4:12as CIA agents and stretches credibility
- 4:14to dispose that the CIA brought down
- 4:16Soviet socialism nonetheless external
- 4:19factors more powerful than CAA ever
- 4:21could be or most definitely at work the
- 4:23intensification of the Cold War in the
- 4:25early 80s followed by the world
- 4:26recession in 1979 that made American
- 4:28Presidents Carter and Reagan increase
- 4:30military spending caused the Soviet
- 4:32Union to do the same in return
- 4:34to quote the book Soviet society never
- 4:36enjoyed the luxury of internal
- 4:38development free of the threat of
- 4:39outside aggression the cost of Defending
- 4:41itself and aiding its allies escalated
- 4:43yearly and reigned resources away from
- 4:45socially useful domestic Investments by
- 4:471980 Soviet Aid its allies cost 44
- 4:49billion dollars a year and our spending
- 4:51consumed 25 to 30 percent of the economy
- 4:53the strain of the Cold War increased
- 4:56during the late Carter and early Reagan
- 4:57years the doubling of military spending
- 4:59by the US the Strategic Defense
- 5:01Initiative which is better known as Star
- 5:02Wars the aiding of anti-communists in
- 5:04Afghanistan Poland elsewhere driving
- 5:06down the price of oil and gas on the
- 5:08World Market which was the soviet's main
- 5:09source of art currency used for trade as
- 5:11well as engaging various forms of
- 5:13Economic and psychological warfare of
- 5:15course all these played significant role
- 5:16but Francis Fitzgerald provides the most
- 5:18persuasive refutation of the supposed
- 5:20decisiveness of Reagan's policies at
- 5:22destabilizing the USSR he argues that no
- 5:25clear cause and effect relationship
- 5:26existed between the external factors and
- 5:28internal crisis for example he states
- 5:30that increased U.S military spending on
- 5:32the Reagan for Star Wars for example and
- 5:34other projects didn't increase Soviet
- 5:36military spending directly many Soviet
- 5:38insiders likewise rejected the idea that
- 5:39the arms race caused either Gorbachev's
- 5:41reforms or the collapse a Soviet
- 5:43official and Military Intelligence said
- 5:45the notion that Gorbachev's pedestroika
- 5:47was started as a result of Reagan Star
- 5:48Wars was concocted in the west and is
- 5:50completely absurd I remember the Soviet
- 5:52Institute for the USA and Canada said I
- 5:54am deeply convinced that neither the
- 5:56Strategic Defense Initiative nor the
- 5:57arms race in general contributed to the
- 5:59collapse of the Soviet Union
- 6:01regardless all this misses the point
- 6:03however great in whatever form the
- 6:05external pressure coming from the United
- 6:06States represented less of an external
- 6:08threat than earlier economic sanctions
- 6:10sabotage and foreign Invasion more
- 6:12importantly the external pressure did
- 6:14not dictate the particular shape and
- 6:16direction of the Soviet response and the
- 6:18end Gorbachev and similar forces
- 6:19particular responses to the external
- 6:21pressures and internal problems provided
- 6:23the most decisive cause of the
- 6:24dissolution
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- 7:49a fourth theory is that the cause was a
- 7:52bureaucratic counter-revolution the idea
- 7:54being that the bureaucracy itself became
- 7:55the base for a capitalist restoration or
- 7:57that transformed itself into a new
- 7:59possessing class this is more or less
- 8:01the arguments of cots via Azad amongst
- 8:03others though some in this group didn't
- 8:05regard this new group as a class
- 8:07kotzenwai argued that the reform course
- 8:09launched by Gorbachev Unleashed
- 8:10processes that created new coalitions
- 8:12that favored replacing socialism with
- 8:14capitalism with Boris Yeltsin becoming
- 8:15the leader of the anti-socialist block
- 8:17with the support of the party State
- 8:19Elite quote unquote he was able to push
- 8:21aside two rival groups the Gorbachev
- 8:23social informists and the cpsu Old Guard
- 8:26essentially the argument goes of the
- 8:28breakup of the USSR as a multinational
- 8:29Federation occurred because of the
- 8:31specifics of the power struggle between
- 8:33the Elton and Gorbachev forces yeltsin's
- 8:35anti-socialists held power in Russia
- 8:37while the Gorbachev social reformists
- 8:38held most of the Union institutions the
- 8:40Yeltsin forces concluded that they could
- 8:42maintain power and pursue capitalist
- 8:44respiration only by withdrawing Russia
- 8:46from the Soviet Union hence the USSR
- 8:48fell apart the bureaucratic Revolution
- 8:50from above thesis is however not
- 8:52completely convincing such officials
- 8:55were according to the book incapable of
- 8:57collective action to defend the system
- 8:58and incapable of consciously hastening
- 9:00its demise the top bureaucracy if you
- 9:03can even be said to have enough
- 9:04substance to be judged and an authentic
- 9:06social group at all was too
- 9:07heterogeneous and Scattered to act as a
- 9:09cohesive political force moreover if the
- 9:12elite was capable of conscious
- 9:13independent action in its own
- 9:14self-interest why did it back andropause
- 9:16Marxism in 1983 Gorbachev's revisionism
- 9:191987 in yeltsin's free market shock
- 9:21therapy in 1993. this discussion
- 9:23continued in the book
- 9:25also supports the thesis that the
- 9:27bureaucratic Elite fostered a
- 9:29counter-revolution in his book he offers
- 9:31a decent history of the accomplishments
- 9:32and limits of Soviet socialism but
- 9:34argues that the real problems began with
- 9:36Khrushchev the rapid consumption model
- 9:38and wage leveling adopted by the 20th
- 9:40Congress in 1956 sap production
- 9:42sometimes created shortages reduced
- 9:44economic growth and fostered the black
- 9:45market and Corruption kusho's ideas the
- 9:48Soviet Union had begun the full-scale
- 9:49building of a communist Society adopted
- 9:52by the 21st Congress in 1959 was overly
- 9:54optimistic so delusions and led to
- 9:56further wage leveling and stagnation the
- 9:58adoption by the 22nd Congress and i-61
- 10:00of the idea that the Soviet state had
- 10:01become the state of the entire people
- 10:03and the cpsu a party of the entire
- 10:05people signaled a weakening of the party
- 10:07in regards to the state and a growing
- 10:08predominance in the party of
- 10:09intellectuals and bureaucrats in short
- 10:11Azad argues that the Soviet Union's
- 10:13problems and Gorbachev's policies were
- 10:15the aftershocks of the mistaken policies
- 10:17of the Khrushchev era as our treats the
- 10:18Gorbachev period as a footnote to
- 10:19khrusho's mistakes a part of the Hiatus
- 10:21of 25 years and failing to implement
- 10:23much needed changes as a direct quote in
- 10:25the view of the authors who wrote the
- 10:27book though the real problem was not to
- 10:28be bureaucracy as such but the second
- 10:29economy that had corrupted sections of
- 10:31the party and state fostered a petty
- 10:33Bourgeois mentality outside as well as
- 10:34inside the bureaucracy and turned some
- 10:36bureaucrats along the second economy
- 10:37entrepreneurs into a base for
- 10:39Gorbachev's opportunism
- 10:42the fifth Theory argues that the Soviet
- 10:44Union collapsed because of a lack of
- 10:45democracy in an over centralized
- 10:47administrative system in essence a
- 10:48similar view to the first explanation
- 10:50with the difference being that instead
- 10:51of a critical flaw in socialism
- 10:53generally it's only soviet-style
- 10:55socialism which can be faulted these
- 10:56types usually claim that the so-called
- 10:58lack of democratic Institutions and over
- 11:00centralization derived either from
- 11:01Stalin or Stalin and Lenin depending on
- 11:03ideological persuasion this view is
- 11:05widely held by left Social Democrats
- 11:07Euro Communists the demsa crowd amongst
- 11:09others historians Stephen F Cohen and
- 11:10the Soviet writer Roy Medvedev also
- 11:12reflected to you and so do many
- 11:14contemporary communist parties this
- 11:15explanation is superficially attractive
- 11:17as it doesn't require any defense of
- 11:19Soviet socialism to quote the book to
- 11:21blame the Soviet collapse on a lack of
- 11:22democracy and over centralization thus
- 11:25serves as a psychological or political
- 11:26distancing mechanism as a way of
- 11:28asserting that the Socialist ideal
- 11:30remains pure and untarnished in spite of
- 11:31what happened in the Soviet Union it
- 11:33says history does not matter the actual
- 11:34experience of a socialist country does
- 11:36not count the only thing that matters is
- 11:38what we supposed socialist or Communists
- 11:40say today what happened the Soviet Union
- 11:41was there and then this is here and now
- 11:43though Soviet Communists messed up but
- 11:45we're different and smarter they were
- 11:47too bureaucratic undemocratic and over
- 11:49centralized but we either knew it all
- 11:50along or have learned it from their
- 11:51mistakes
- 11:52as convenient of you as this is for
- 11:55those who wish to get their time on the
- 11:56next lecture book promotion or media
- 11:58interview it leaves a lot to be desired
- 11:59as an explanation it's unfalsifiable has
- 12:01essentially zero explanatory value when
- 12:03applied to real events and like so much
- 12:05Precision that it cannot be either
- 12:06sufficiently proven nor categorically
- 12:08refuted to the taste of those that hold
- 12:10it as an opinion to say that the Soviet
- 12:12Union collapsed because of a lack of
- 12:13democracy in over centralization can
- 12:15mean only one of two things either the
- 12:17collapse occurred because the Soviet
- 12:18Union lacked the political and economic
- 12:20forms and practices familiar in Western
- 12:22social democratically governed countries
- 12:23like Sweden I.E a liberal democracy in a
- 12:25mixed economy order occurred because the
- 12:27Soviet Union failed to develop a new
- 12:29kind of socialist democracy and mixed
- 12:31economy hitherto unknown anywhere in the
- 12:32world both ideas fail as historical
- 12:35explanations because they rest on
- 12:36idealist constructs that attempt to
- 12:38explain history by the degree to which
- 12:39it conforms or fails to conform to an
- 12:41ideal modern historians Marxist or not
- 12:43believe that historical explanations
- 12:44must adhere to the actual details and
- 12:46contradictions of History this precludes
- 12:47understanding history by measuring it
- 12:49against some outside standard
- 12:50furthermore this train of thinking would
- 12:52so Union collapse because it failed to
- 12:54follow European social democracy have
- 12:55another problem to deal with it's clear
- 12:57that after a certain point Gorbachev
- 12:59shared the same ideals as those
- 13:00theorists and tried to move the Soviet
- 13:01Union towards a liberal democracy with a
- 13:03mixed economy yet those exact moves are
- 13:05what led to a political and economic
- 13:07meltdown that has still not been
- 13:08overcome this is an embarrassment that
- 13:09none of the lack of democracy theorists
- 13:11have been able to explain away
- 13:12furthermore these theorists ignore the
- 13:14actual history of liberal democracy and
- 13:16socialist democracy democracy for whom
- 13:18and in what form for example economic
- 13:20deepens the Nuance but is rarely
- 13:22discussed refer to the book for this
- 13:23discussions long to render here but it's
- 13:25very good regardless there was an active
- 13:27effort within the USSR from the earliest
- 13:29period to develop ways to increase the
- 13:31participation and control by the workers
- 13:33and including broadening membership in
- 13:35the Communist party and developing
- 13:36Soviets trade unions and other Mass
- 13:38organizations through the process of
- 13:40developing democracy was far from Over
- 13:41the Soviet Union had developed a variety
- 13:43of political institutions and practices
- 13:45designed to provide popular
- 13:46participation and Soviet practices
- 13:47included using newsmen and Ombudsman as
- 13:49well as new sources best in trade unions
- 13:52with power over workers rights
- 13:53production norms and the disposition of
- 13:54social funds Mick Costello's book is
- 13:56great on this topic if you're interested
- 13:59creating Soviets production communities
- 14:01Community assemblies governing
- 14:03Committees of living complexes and other
- 14:04partying government bodies
- 14:06to quote the book though many of these
- 14:08populist institutions atrophied during
- 14:10the difficult years surrounding the
- 14:11second world war they revived in the
- 14:131950s and involved greater and greater
- 14:15numbers of working people even under
- 14:16President of popular participation in
- 14:18government showed many signs of Vitality
- 14:20right in 1978 when the Soviet Union
- 14:22contained 260 million people a group of
- 14:25Soviet writers gave the following
- 14:26figures on Soviet political activity
- 14:2816.5 million Communists 121 million
- 14:31Trade union members nearly 38 million
- 14:33young Communists over 2 million Soviet
- 14:35deputies 35 million people who work with
- 14:37the deputies in the Soviet people's
- 14:38deputies 9.5 million members of people's
- 14:41control bodies had 5.5 million members
- 14:43of production conferences of Industrial
- 14:44Enterprises of course participation and
- 14:47social Soviets just as participation and
- 14:48Bourgeois election provides no
- 14:50conclusive proof of popular control but
- 14:52nonetheless represented however and
- 14:53perfectly the striving for a kind of
- 14:55socialist democracy
- 14:57many of the traditional Soviet political
- 14:59forms the newspapers the Soviets and the
- 15:01Communist Party itself were undermined
- 15:02by goroshov after 1985. thus while the
- 15:05majority of Soviet people remained
- 15:06opposed to privatization property the
- 15:08elimination of price controls and the
- 15:10breakup of the Soviet Union the
- 15:11traditional modes of expressing
- 15:13political views were evaporating
- 15:15what this means is that the lack of
- 15:16democracy theorists could have been
- 15:18right but definitely not in the way they
- 15:19wanted to be right relevant reading can
- 15:21be found in my book recommendations
- 15:22video on the topic here
- 15:25the final theory is that the Soviet
- 15:27collapse was mainly due to gorbashev
- 15:28unsurprisingly almost all accounts give
- 15:30great weight to gorosho's role with some
- 15:32accounts going further than others
- 15:34according to the British historian
- 15:35Archie Brown the dissolution of the SSR
- 15:37was greatly determined by a Gorbachev
- 15:39Factor as he called it mainly
- 15:41Gorbachev's departure from communist
- 15:42Orthodoxy painting him as a heroic
- 15:44westernizer of sorts Jerry Hughes thinks
- 15:46that Gorbachev was a free marketeer
- 15:47evgenie novikov and Patrick bastio
- 15:50suggest that goroshoff was a Grime chain
- 15:51you're a communist Anthony D'Agostino
- 15:53argues that Gorbachev was a
- 15:55Machiavellian wanting to maintain power
- 15:56by any means necessary though the
- 15:58authors of this book agree with the
- 16:00common elements of these views that
- 16:01Gorbachev's ideological deviations
- 16:03played a key role they nonetheless
- 16:04disagree with several other elements
- 16:06accounts that overemphasize Gorbachev
- 16:08obscure the extent to which he was not
- 16:09alone but operated in a historical and
- 16:11social context when he first departed
- 16:12from andropod Gorbachev represented
- 16:14ideas that nonetheless had precedent in
- 16:16the communist movement namely the ideas
- 16:17of bakarin and Khrushchev these ideas
- 16:20had some appeal in Soviet Society these
- 16:22include the weakening of the central
- 16:23power of the party and the government a
- 16:24legitimate amazing private property and
- 16:26allowing more freedom for markets which
- 16:28had potency in the 1980s because they
- 16:30palpably reflected the interests of a
- 16:31dynamic if parasitic sector attached to
- 16:33Illegal private Enterprise thus
- 16:35Gorbachev was both a successor of a
- 16:37certain tradition and the product of his
- 16:38times not just a loan Factor making
- 16:40history moreover for some writers
- 16:42stressing overshaw leads to them seeing
- 16:44his actions as part of a long-signing
- 16:46preconceived plan the evidence though
- 16:47seems to point towards a shallow leader
- 16:49who acted rationally impulsively and
- 16:51contradictorally though his policies
- 16:52eventually formed a pattern of
- 16:53capitulation to the petty Bourgeois
- 16:55liberal and corrupt interests at home
- 16:56and imperialist pressure abroad this was
- 16:58not evident at the start opportunism was
- 17:00his primary guide in the end the story
- 17:02of the Soviet collapse was not the
- 17:04inevitable unfolding of a tragedy wrote
- 17:06an impossibility of socialism nor was it
- 17:08a defeat brought about by popular
- 17:09opposition or foreign enemies nor was it
- 17:11due to Soviet socialism's failure to
- 17:13match up to some ideal of socialism that
- 17:14embodied liberal democracy in a mixed
- 17:16economy nor was primarily the story of
- 17:18the conscious betrayal of one man rather
- 17:20it was the story of a Triumph of a
- 17:22certain tendency within the revolution
- 17:23itself it was a tendency first rooted in
- 17:26The Peasant nature of the country that
- 17:27later showed up in a second economy a
- 17:29sector that flourished because of
- 17:31consumer demands unsatisfied by the
- 17:32first economy and because of the failure
- 17:34of authorities to appreciate the danger
- 17:35it represented and to enforce the law
- 17:37against it it was a tendency that had
- 17:39manifested itself in bukhar and
- 17:40Khrushchev before Gorbachev it was a
- 17:41tendency that believes that Prosperity
- 17:43democracy and its vision of socialism
- 17:45could come quickly and without sacrifice
- 17:46without struggle and without strong
- 17:48central Authority it believed in making
- 17:50concessions to imperialism liberals on
- 17:52private property and the market some
- 17:54adherents of this tendency believe that
- 17:55they were true socialists though they
- 17:57Allied themselves with others whose true
- 17:58sympathies were with money making and
- 18:00private property not until Gorbachev had
- 18:02this sentencing in the revolution held
- 18:04false way and been carried to its
- 18:05logical conclusion only with Gorbachev
- 18:07was the full mistake of this course
- 18:09realized when it led not to a new kind
- 18:11of socialism but to a new kind of
- 18:12barbarism to quote the authors in the
- 18:14case of the Soviet Union federal casters
- 18:16said it best socialism did not die from
- 18:18natural causes it was a suicide
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