Why did the Last Waltz Lead to The Band’s Fallout? — Transcript
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- 0:00In 1977, the band sat around a table
- 0:03with their managers and accountants
- 0:05discussing their uncertain future. While
- 0:07Robbie Robertson was looking to buy out
- 0:09his bandmate shares, they pitched yet
- 0:11another money-making scheme that one
- 0:14accountant declares a genius idea. That
- 0:16was the breaking point for Levon Helm.
- 0:18He shot to his feet, eyes blazing.
- 0:21Genius my there ain't a genius within
- 0:23walking distance of this
- 0:24self-infactuated crowd. He cussed them
- 0:26out to the point he had to leave town
- 0:28immediately. Speaking about them, he
- 0:30says, "They put the IRS after me. That's
- 0:33what kind of people we're talking about
- 0:34here." Not more than a year later, the
- 0:37recording studio named Shanganger,
- 0:39located in Malibu, California, [music]
- 0:41was being shut down. Richard Emanuel had
- 0:44been living out of one of the bungalows
- 0:45on the property when management tried to
- 0:47get him to move out. He didn't have
- 0:49anywhere else to go [music] and
- 0:50continued to stay as they shut off the
- 0:52phone and then the gas. Levonne stopped
- 0:55by to check on him one night when he
- 0:57finds Richard cooking minute steaks on
- 0:59an upside down clothes iron. He
- 1:02describes the scene in his
- 1:03autobiography. The thing was set on
- 1:05cotton. Richard would drop a pad of
- 1:07butter on the hot iron, slap on a steak,
- 1:10flip it over, drop another butter pat,
- 1:13and eat it right off the grill, so to
- 1:15speak. When they finally get him out of
- 1:16there, it took them a couple of days to
- 1:18clean out the 2,000 Grand bottles they
- 1:21found. Today, people tell me all the
- 1:23time how [music] much they love The Last
- 1:25Waltz. I try to thank them politely and
- 1:27usually refrain from mentioning that for
- 1:29me, it was a real scandal. But Robbie
- 1:33Robertson sees it completely
- 1:35differently, describing it in his
- 1:37posthumis memoir as the greatest [music]
- 1:39music film of all time. He details the
- 1:42two years he spent living with Martin
- 1:43Scorsesei, making the film as a labor of
- 1:46love mixed with a lot of debauchery. So,
- 1:49how is it that two band members that
- 1:50once considered themselves brothers
- 1:53could come away with completely
- 1:54different perspectives on the same
- 1:56experience [music] that concluded their
- 1:5816-year journey. I'll present you both
- 2:00sides and allow you [music] to decide
- 2:02why they felt so differently and how
- 2:04that led to the band's demise.
- 2:07The band was a traveling group called
- 2:09the Hawks and were playing gigs on the
- 2:11road all over the US and Canada for 8
- 2:13years before meeting Bob Dylan. Levon
- 2:16describes their lifestyle like this. I
- 2:18was the road. It was my life and I was
- 2:20living it to the hilt and beyond. We may
- 2:22have had a hard time getting credit
- 2:24cards and insurance, but we felt freer
- 2:26than anyone else in the land. As we
- 2:28crisscross province, prairie, and state,
- 2:30we didn't have to answer to anybody. It
- 2:32was the kind of life where if you had a
- 2:34problem today, you could be 500 miles
- 2:36away from it the next day. But Levon
- 2:39left that lifestyle he loved so much
- 2:41when they were touring with Bob Dylan
- 2:43during his contentious tour in ' 65 when
- 2:46they were booed, had things thrown at
- 2:48them, and caused an uproar everywhere
- 2:50they went. He says he was too sensitive
- 2:52to bear it, but the other guy stuck it
- 2:54out and followed Bob to Woodstock where
- 2:56he basically taught them how to write
- 2:57songs.
- 3:02>> [music and singing]
- 3:04>> Levonne gets the call from Rick in late
- 3:06' 67 when they finally get a record
- 3:08contract [music] and he returns to the
- 3:10band in Woodstock. He discovers they
- 3:12have developed miles beyond where they
- 3:14were when [music] he left them 2 years
- 3:15earlier. Richard tells Levon how they'd
- 3:17been working with Bob since March when
- 3:19he started coming by every day at the
- 3:22same time and they would go downstairs
- 3:23into their makeshift studio in the
- 3:25basement and play music they felt like
- 3:27playing or songs they had just written.
- 3:29Richard says to Levon, "It's like real
- 3:31work."
- 3:33Bob and Rick wrote This Wheels on Fire,
- 3:35while Richard and Bob wrote Tears of
- 3:37Rage. Robbie had always been writing
- 3:39songs since he joined the Hawks when
- 3:40[music] they were teenagers.
- 3:42and watching Bob, helping Bob construct
- 3:46some songs. Uh, everybody got a better
- 3:49idea of how to put a song together and
- 3:53and learned that there wasn't any set
- 3:56formula. A song could happen from a
- 3:58groove or from a from an idea, from a
- 4:02title, uh, from a story. And from doing
- 4:05that, uh, a lot of, uh, good
- 4:08arrangements came from that. a lot of
- 4:10musical ideas and just uh us living our
- 4:12lives, you know, just uh establishing
- 4:15some some little life rules. It was an
- 4:19incredible time period.
- 4:21>> Around this time, there was a reaction
- 4:23to the unrest in the country and a
- 4:25movement towards what Levon described as
- 4:27country values. [music] And that's why
- 4:29the band sound hit the spot with so many
- 4:31fed up with the age of Aquarius music by
- 4:3468. The Hawks were coming up with new
- 4:36ideas for band names [music] when Levon
- 4:38suggested the Honkys. But in Woodstock,
- 4:40they'd become so beloved where they were
- 4:42known as Bob Dylan's band that when
- 4:43people asked about them, they'd say, "Is
- 4:45the band in town?" And that's the name
- 4:47that stuck. So when their album started
- 4:49coming out, they began to notice that
- 4:51the writing credits were mostly listed
- 4:53as J.R. Robertson instead of the actual
- 4:55band member who Levon says wrote the
- 4:57[music] songs. They thought that was
- 4:58kind of funny, but were so caught up in
- 5:00their newfound success that they barely
- 5:02mentioned it. Their producer, John
- 5:04Simon, says, "In those days, that's how
- 5:06it was done. If there was a group, one
- 5:08guy tended to write [music] the songs
- 5:09and get credit for them. It kept things
- 5:11relatively simple that way. But Levon
- 5:14saw Richard as the [music] main
- 5:15songwriter with him and Rick and Robbie
- 5:17also writing some songs. He thought by
- 5:19the second album it would get corrected.
- 5:20[music]
- 5:21And when the songs got credited to
- 5:23Robertson, he approached Robbie, who had
- 5:25become close with their manager, Albert
- 5:27Gman. [music] Robbie assures him that
- 5:29everything will work out with the
- 5:30royalties once Albert builds a new
- 5:32state-of-the-art studio for them to
- 5:34record in as they pleased. Levon points
- 5:36out that the royalty changes never
- 5:38materialized. Around this same time,
- 5:41they are being referred [music] to by
- 5:42critics as the best band in America and
- 5:44enjoying a great deal of fame as [music]
- 5:46they begin to work on their third album,
- 5:48Stage Fright. Levon says this is when
- 5:50the stage is being set [music] for the
- 5:52last walts, despite owing the record
- 5:54company eight more albums.
- 5:56Kane is a name and [music and singing] I
- 5:58served on the train.
- 6:01>> He describes the crowd at Woodstock
- 6:03Music Festival as real tired and real
- 6:05unhealthy, saying as soon as they were
- 6:07done playing, they got out of there.
- 6:09Albert Gman refused their movie rights
- 6:11to the documentary in exchange for their
- 6:13fee, so they were not in the film. As a
- 6:15result,
- 6:17in July 1973, they played a festival in
- 6:20Watkins Glenn, New York with the
- 6:22Grateful Dead and the Almond Brothers
- 6:23band to a quarter of a million people.
- 6:25Richard [music] describes it as a hell
- 6:27of a lot better than Woodstock and
- 6:28Levonne says, "It is burned in my
- 6:30memory." In 1974, they joined back up
- 6:33with Bob Dylan for a tour, and this time
- 6:35they were met with a completely
- 6:37different response [music] than the
- 6:38animosity of 1965, just 9 years earlier.
- 6:42Levon tells of the electricity when
- 6:44Dylan entered the stage. [music] We
- 6:46understood that people were excited by
- 6:47Bob's comeback after a long public
- 6:49absence, [music] but we were astounded
- 6:51anyway when he walked on stage in the
- 6:53darkened hall in Chicago and [music] saw
- 6:55the entire audience stand and hold up
- 6:58flaring lighters in a roar of tribute to
- 7:00Bob. He says the normally stoic Dylan is
- 7:02moved to the point of not being able to
- 7:05face the crowd. They perform the same
- 7:07songs they played in ' 65, but with a
- 7:09completely different response. The album
- 7:11of the tour went on to become their
- 7:13legendary live album, Before the Flood.
- 7:21>> In 1976, after finishing a concert at
- 7:24Stanford with the Flying Burrito
- 7:25Brothers, Robbiey's daughter's been
- 7:27born, and the band was seeing less and
- 7:29less of each other. Rick signed a solo
- 7:31record deal because he couldn't take
- 7:32being so Still while Richard was
- 7:34recovering from a neck injury. Robbie
- 7:36tells Levon he is ready to hang it up
- 7:38and stop touring. He wants to spend more
- 7:40time with his family. Levon couldn't
- 7:42understand this and thought he was
- 7:43joking initially, but he wasn't. Robbie
- 7:45goes on to tell Levon of his worries
- 7:47about being on the road and that it was
- 7:48too dangerous after their friend had
- 7:50died in an airplane crash, [music] as
- 7:52well as other musicians who had lost
- 7:53their lives on the road, saying, "Do we
- 7:55have to spend the rest of our lives on
- 7:57the road, man, until we can't stand each
- 7:59other like Sam and Dave, man?" Effing
- 8:01knife fights in the dressing room. They
- 8:03soon get word from management in
- 8:04September that their final show will be
- 8:06in San Francisco where they launched the
- 8:08band and [music] it would be a
- 8:09star-studded event with everyone who
- 8:11influenced them throughout the years.
- 8:13And that was that. It was decided for
- 8:15them. Levon says they were nowhere near
- 8:17being ready to stop touring, especially
- 8:19after those monumental life concerts
- 8:22they had leading up to this. Levon meets
- 8:24with Robbie in early October to protest
- 8:26the breakup of the band. He describes
- 8:28Robbie as barely able to open his eyes
- 8:30as he'd been up all night producing a
- 8:32Neil Diamond album. Levonne says they
- 8:34will go on as the band without him as
- 8:36Robbie responds they would stop them
- 8:38legally. This is when he catches wind
- 8:40that the final concert will also be
- 8:42filmed for a documentary. The concert
- 8:44and a feast scheduled for Thanksgiving
- 8:46Day, November 25th, 1976 at the
- 8:49Winterland Ballroom in San Francisco
- 8:52features an extraordinary lineup of
- 8:54guest musicians. They had everyone lined
- 8:56up and agreed to play, including Ronnie
- 8:58Hawkins, Dr. John Neil Young, Neil
- 9:00Diamond, Joanie Mitchell, Muddy Waters,
- 9:03Paul Butterfield, Van Morrison, Ringo
- 9:05Star, Ron Wood, and Bob Dylan. Warner
- 9:08Brothers agrees to put them on a
- 9:09retainer for $2,000 a week each
- 9:12throughout the process along [music]
- 9:13with rights to the film. Levon says he
- 9:15was completely against the film and
- 9:17didn't understand why someone like Neil
- 9:19Diamond would be included because he has
- 9:21absolutely nothing to do with the band.
- 9:22He was informed that Robbie had just
- 9:24produced his album and wanted to perform
- 9:26a couple of their songs. Levon says the
- 9:28film was more or less shoved down their
- 9:30throats and would be done live with one
- 9:32take. Levonne recalls that they went to
- 9:34Mo O at Warner Brothers and asked for
- 9:36the money to shoot the film. Oon is
- 9:38reluctant and only agrees to it if Bob
- 9:40Dylan agrees to be in the film. So they
- 9:42go to Bob and ask him and he doesn't
- 9:44want to do it because he has been
- 9:46finishing up his Ronaldo and Clara film
- 9:48from the Rolling Thunder tour and didn't
- 9:50want to compete with himself. But
- 9:51according to Levon, Robbie and
- 9:53management tell Oston that Bob did agree
- 9:55to be in the film. So he fronted them
- 9:57$1.5 million to make it. They go back
- 10:00and forth and Bob keeps saying, "I don't
- 10:02know, man. I need to talk to
- 10:03management." Clearly hoping they will
- 10:05let it go. So all the way up to the day
- 10:07of the concert, they still don't have
- 10:09his agreement to be in the film. There
- 10:10are nine cameras set up pointing
- 10:12directly at the stage, mind you. At 6:00
- 10:14p.m., the doors open as people who pay
- 10:17$25 enjoy a feast of 220 turkeys, 500 lb
- 10:21of cranberry [music] sauce, 90 gallons
- 10:24of brown gravy, a ton of candied yams,
- 10:26800 lb of minced meat, 6,000 rolls, and
- 10:30400 gallons of cider. The stuffing was
- 10:32made of 500 lb of onions and [music]
- 10:34celery, 70 bunches of parsley, and 16
- 10:37quarts of herbs sauteed in 100 lb of
- 10:39butter. And if you didn't eat meat, you
- 10:41could sample some of the 400 pounds of
- 10:43fresh salmon and then get up to dance to
- 10:45a 38piece orchestra encouraged by three
- 10:48teams of professional ballroom dancers.
- 10:53[music]
- 10:57>> The concert began around 900 p.m. as the
- 10:59band played their most popular songs
- 11:01before any of the guest performers came
- 11:03on stage. Bob arrives during the first
- 11:05half of the show and goes directly into
- 11:07his dressing room. About 15 minutes
- 11:09before he was set to go on stage, he
- 11:11tells them he doesn't want to be in the
- 11:13film. Robbie went totally pale and
- 11:15Scorsesei went berserk. Without him,
- 11:17there was no film and they would have to
- 11:19pay the money back. Everyone kept going
- 11:21in trying to get him to change his mind,
- 11:23but it was Bill Graham who said, "That's
- 11:25it. I'm going to get him to do it." He
- 11:26entered the dressing room as everyone
- 11:28waited, holding their breath. Bill
- 11:30finally emerges with five minutes left
- 11:32before stage time and says Bob agrees to
- 11:34be in it, but only for two songs.
- 11:40[music and singing]
- 11:44>> By 3:00 a.m., the last Waltz was over.
- 11:46It was one of those nights Levon says
- 11:48you didn't want to let go of.
- 11:54Don't you break my heart.
- 11:57>> The following February 1977, Robbie
- 12:00Robertson had [music] been asked by his
- 12:02wife to leave their home. He briefly
- 12:03stayed in a room at Shangerla Recording
- 12:06Studio before winding up at Martin
- 12:08Scorsese's house on Mahalland where he
- 12:10was invited to move in as Marty's
- 12:12[music] wife had also recently moved
- 12:14out, leaving both men newly single with
- 12:16a film to finish. He describes trying to
- 12:18explain to the guys in the band all that
- 12:20it took to make a film and saying they
- 12:22understood it to the best of their
- 12:24ability. He cites Richard Emanuel's
- 12:26drinking problem as why they needed to
- 12:28get off the road. Robbie recalls in his
- 12:30latest memoir, Insomnia, [music] "I was
- 12:32tired of pulling the train up the hill,
- 12:34tired of trying to figure out what to do
- 12:35with Richard's situation, and I was
- 12:37tired of Levon, who was becoming more
- 12:39and more difficult to deal with." When
- 12:41he tells Levon he finally got the money
- 12:43to make the film, he says Levon tells
- 12:45him, "F the film. Let's just use the
- 12:47concert and keep the money. A shocked
- 12:49Robbie doesn't understand why Levon
- 12:51can't see how great this documentary
- 12:53could be and all that it took to make
- 12:54it. Robbie tells Levon this could be one
- 12:57of the best music films ever made. We
- 12:59have to see this through. At Marty's
- 13:01house, they initially spend a lot of
- 13:02[music] time screening movies as he
- 13:04taught Robbie details to look out for in
- 13:06old films. Robbie compares them to a
- 13:08whacked out odd couple. as Scorsesei was
- 13:11meticulous about every detail and Robbie
- 13:13was [music] used to the freewheing rock
- 13:15and roll life on the road where everyone
- 13:17cleaned up after you. Each of the
- 13:18artists get to screen their part of the
- 13:20film [music] before signing off. When
- 13:22Neil Young sees his part, he says he
- 13:23can't be in the film due to a rock of
- 13:25coke in his nose that is visible, not
- 13:27wanting his kids to see that someday.
- 13:29So, they had to go through some special
- 13:31effects to remove that before he agreed
- 13:33to sign off.
- 13:35Two production assistants, Ava and
- 13:37Sylvia, who are young women in their
- 13:3920s, arrange a screening at MGM with the
- 13:41heads of the Can's film festival. Along
- 13:44with the Can's people, they invite two
- 13:45Hell's [music] Angels, one of which
- 13:47recited a poem during the last Walt's
- 13:49film named Sweet William. Suddenly
- 13:51towards the end of the screening, Ava
- 13:53and Sylvia call Marty and Robbie in a
- 13:55panic because Sweet William went
- 13:57ballistic and was holding them hostage.
- 13:59He started screaming at the top of his
- 14:01lungs after his performance. He is
- 14:03making demands for drugs and money and
- 14:05it has them locked in a room. Finally,
- 14:07Sweet William gets on the phone with
- 14:08Robbie and says, "You've shortened my
- 14:11poem and taken the soul out of it." He
- 14:13goes on to tell him by cutting out the
- 14:14middle of the very long poem, "He
- 14:16disgraced his tale about the killing of
- 14:18another Hell's Angel in Florida by the
- 14:20cops." He then demands $1,000, an ounce
- 14:23of Coke, and his full poem back in the
- 14:26movie, or quote, "You can't imagine what
- 14:28we're going to do to your little
- 14:29secretaries." Robbie then remembers
- 14:31another leader within the Hell's Angel,
- 14:33Sunny Barger, that he knows personally
- 14:35who he brings up to Sweet William,
- 14:37saying, "Why don't we get his input
- 14:39about the poem?" Sweet William stops and
- 14:41finally responds. I don't want Sunny to
- 14:43have to decide or anyone else. Cut me
- 14:45out of the movie, that's all. I can't
- 14:47live with it like this, so just take me
- 14:49out. They then up and leave MGM.
- 14:52Robbie describes the money coming from
- 14:53United Artists going towards the
- 14:55additional filming, [music] editing, and
- 14:57mixing, saying they would only get paid
- 14:58the profit sharing of the film, calling
- 15:01it a labor of love and [music] madness.
- 15:03During this time, Robbie is dating his
- 15:05wife's best friend, but is not entirely
- 15:07convinced his marriage is over, and he
- 15:09finds himself confused over the entire
- 15:11[music] situation. He writes a song for
- 15:13the soundtrack called Out of the Blue
- 15:15about his [music] wife, in which the
- 15:16band comes together at Shanganger to
- 15:18record. He gets the feeling that
- 15:20everyone had one foot out the door and
- 15:22realize the distance that had grown
- 15:23between them [music] despite their
- 15:25musical bond.
- 15:27Throughout Levon's accounts, you can
- 15:29hear the bitterness unfold as he tells
- 15:31off Martin Scorsesei at one point during
- 15:33the interviews for the film, saying, "I
- 15:35was coarse and rude, country rude,
- 15:37because I was so damn angry." Levon does
- 15:40not hold back on his distaste towards
- 15:42him regarding the film and how he
- 15:43perceives his hand in the demise of the
- 15:45productivity of the band. Next, the guys
- 15:48in the band screen the movie. Robbie
- 15:49says, "Rick thought the film was
- 15:51tremendous. G tried to stay awake due to
- 15:53his narcolepsy, and Richard commented on
- 15:55the great performances by Van, Joanie,
- 15:57Bob, and Muddy. He doesn't mention
- 15:59Levon's reaction except when mentioning
- 16:01Lawrence Fairetti's poem, Loud Prayer,
- 16:04which is a take on the Lord's Prayer."
- 16:06He brings up Levon's Southern Baptist
- 16:08upbringing as he remarks, "Somebody
- 16:10could be struck by lightning screwing
- 16:12around with the Bible. We ought not to
- 16:14be messing with that kind of [music]
- 16:15boys. Fair and Gaddy.
- 16:18In Levon's book, he makes it very clear
- 16:20he hates the film and sees it as
- 16:22Robbie's way into the Hollywood scene at
- 16:24his band's expense. He says, "After the
- 16:27screening [music] ended, I was in shock
- 16:28over how bad the movie was." Nine
- 16:30cameras on the floor and there wasn't
- 16:32even a shot of Richard Emanuel singing
- 16:34the finale, I Shall Be released, his
- 16:36trademark song. He basically feels the
- 16:38whole film is edited in a way to focus
- 16:40on Robbie and there's barely any shots
- 16:43of Richard or Gar during the concert and
- 16:45the interviews all make it seem like
- 16:46it's Robbiey's band. He says Ronnie
- 16:48Hawkins even made a joke at the end of
- 16:50the screening that the movie would be
- 16:52all right had there just have been more
- 16:54shots of Robertson. Robbie details
- 16:56Levon's frustration with Richard being
- 16:58drunk during some of the interviews and
- 17:00taking Levon's concerns about the film
- 17:02to Rick, who seemed to agree with Robbie
- 17:04on allowing Richard to just be himself.
- 17:06But they are starting to pit each other
- 17:08against one another at this point,
- 17:09whether they know it or not. It's around
- 17:11this time that Levon tells everyone off
- 17:13at the meeting. As the film is making
- 17:15its way through screenings, Robbie's
- 17:17fallen into the Hollywood scene as he
- 17:19tells some hilarious stories about wild
- 17:21nights with Scorsesei and the likes of
- 17:23Liza Minnelli, Robert Dairo, and Harvey
- 17:26Keitel. They had begun shooting raging
- 17:28bull during this time period. During the
- 17:30can's film festival, they arrive as
- 17:32angry crowds outside waiting [music]
- 17:34scream fascist at Martin Scorsesei
- 17:36because of their perception of his
- 17:38American views on the films he made.
- 17:40Robbie is interviewed by Andy Warhol for
- 17:42his magazine interview. They enjoy
- 17:44catching up and recalling old times at
- 17:46the Chelsea Hotel with Edie Sedwick,
- 17:48Nico, and Salvador Dolly. They laugh
- 17:50about the time Andy gave Dylan a silk
- 17:52screen of Elvis and Bob immediately
- 17:54traded it with Albert Gman for a couch.
- 17:57Back in London at the Savoy Hotel, they
- 17:59meet up with Jack Nicholson, who tells
- 18:01them about the film he's working on with
- 18:02Stanley Kubri, about a family in an old
- 18:05mountain resort, and the man is losing
- 18:07his mind. The movie is called The
- 18:09Shining. Jack describes to them a scene
- 18:11they worked on where his character hacks
- 18:13his way through the door, and he
- 18:15spontaneously comes up with the line,
- 18:17>> "Here's Johnny."
- 18:18>> Which Kubri finds hilarious and keeps in
- 18:21the movie. While editing Raging Bull,
- 18:22Marty turned to Robbie to help with the
- 18:24soundtrack. He brought in G and Richard
- 18:26to help on a song and play a 1940s New
- 18:29York jazz scene. It would be the first
- 18:31of many soundtracks he worked on for
- 18:33Scorsese Films. After all the accolades
- 18:36of the last Waltz came pouring out and
- 18:38everything settled down, Robbie
- 18:39describes that the rest of the band had
- 18:41left California and moved back to
- 18:43Woodstock. He says he couldn't imagine
- 18:45going back there, believing their
- 18:47physical distance led to their personal
- 18:49connection drifting them apart. He began
- 18:51working on a film called Carney with
- 18:53Gary Buucy. One day, Rick and Gary came
- 18:55to visit him at his house. And Rick
- 18:57describes checking in on G since his
- 18:59house burned down in Malibu. Gar sat on
- 19:02a hill powerless watching his house
- 19:04burned to the ground. And Rick says,
- 19:05"Hey, let's give Levon a call." They
- 19:08call him up as he's sitting watching
- 19:09basketball. Robbie tells Levon about a
- 19:11film director who asked about him to
- 19:13play a part as Loretta Lynn's father in
- 19:15an upcoming movie. He liked his presence
- 19:18in The Last Walt. He says Levon's
- 19:20response is dismissive, saying, "Hell,
- 19:22Loretta's older than me." He then gets
- 19:24off the phone and gets back to his game.
- 19:26Of course, he would go on to play that
- 19:27role and several others, but Robbie says
- 19:29it is at this point that he sees he
- 19:32himself has changed. His time with the
- 19:34band was incredible and they had become
- 19:36brothers. But Levon was quote limited in
- 19:38his vision and ambitions, happy to go
- 19:40round and round playing music in the
- 19:42same old [music] circuit. I couldn't
- 19:44stand still like that. I wanted to make
- 19:46original music to find new sounds. But
- 19:48in this group, it came to feel like I
- 19:50was the only one who had these thoughts.
- 19:52I'd had to take over the reigns of our
- 19:54direction. [music] If id left it up to
- 19:56Levon, we would have never joined up
- 19:57with Bob Dylan. He went along with it
- 19:59for a while to appease me, but he hated
- 20:02it so much. He eventually quit his own
- 20:04[music] band. I didn't even know you
- 20:05could do that. There would have been no
- 20:07basement tapes or Big Pink if it was
- 20:09left up to him. No last walts. Levon saw
- 20:12Robbiey's move to evolve into movies as
- 20:15a betrayal. And Robbie saw Levon and the
- 20:17band holding him back. So, did Robbie
- 20:19make questionable decisions with
- 20:21songwriting credits? Possibly. But he
- 20:23says that Levon just didn't understand
- 20:25how it all worked. So, it's hard to say
- 20:26because the other guys didn't seem to
- 20:28have the same grievances, at least
- 20:30publicly. And they never saw a dime of
- 20:32the money from the film due to it being
- 20:34over budget. And there it was. That's
- 20:36what the demise all came down to.
- 20:37Differences in how the publishing rights
- 20:39were distributed and how the band's end
- 20:41was handled. [music] Richard's life
- 20:42ended heartbreakingly sad on the road
- 20:44with the band Sans Robertson in 1983.
- 20:47And when Rick died suddenly in his sleep
- 20:49at age 56, Levonne made it clear who he
- 20:52held responsible, saying Rick worked too
- 20:54hard. He wasn't that old and he wasn't
- 20:56that [music] sick. He just worked
- 20:58himself to death. And the reason Rick
- 21:00worked all the time was because [music]
- 21:01he had been effed out of his money.
- 21:03People ask me what I think of The Last
- 21:05Walts all the [music] time. Rick Denko
- 21:07dying at 56 is what I think about The
- 21:09Last Walts. It was the biggest effing
- 21:11ripoff that ever [music] happened to the
- 21:13band without a doubt.
- 21:16As the band members began going their
- 21:18own ways, the animosity between Levon
- 21:20and Robbie during The Last Walts
- 21:22irreparably fractured their bond,
- 21:24leading to the band's demise. The others
- 21:26stayed mostly quiet, though they tooured
- 21:28without Robbie, likely out of financial
- 21:30need. To fans, the riff felt like
- 21:32watching old friends in a feud, each
- 21:34with their own side of the story. Both
- 21:36men likely shared some of the blame.
- 21:38Robbie later said there was no feud from
- 21:40his side and that he'd made peace with
- 21:41Levon before his death. Leon loved life
- 21:44on the road. Torian made him feel alive.
- 21:46Robbie, meanwhile, was drawn to film
- 21:48making and storytelling and wanted more
- 21:50time with his young family. A choice
- 21:52that made sense, but left Levonne
- 21:54feeling left out in the cold. [music]
- 21:55The disputes over songwriting and
- 21:57royalties deepen the divide. If Robbie
- 21:59acted unfairly behind the scenes, that's
- 22:01hard to forgive. But it's [music] also a
- 22:03lesson on protecting your own interest
- 22:05early on before resentment takes root.
- 22:10This story is a great reminder that just
- 22:12because you have a long history with
- 22:14someone, it doesn't mean that they share
- 22:16the same moral clarity or vision as you.
- 22:19They were looking at the situation from
- 22:20two different levels. Robbie took a
- 22:22rational approach to how he saw the
- 22:24situation and decided he was ready to
- 22:27move on while being more business savvy
- 22:29while Levon was coming from a
- 22:30relationship level with what they refer
- 22:32to as brothers. So, he took it
- 22:35personally when Robbie didn't live up to
- 22:37that expectation. But life has a funny
- 22:39way of coming full circle. After
- 22:41Robbiey's death in 2023, in a twist that
- 22:44would have made Levon smirk, the band's
- 22:46old feud over money didn't exactly die
- 22:49with them. It just changed cast members.
- 22:52After [music] decades of Robertson being
- 22:54painted as the guy who walked away with
- 22:56the band's fortune during their time of
- 22:58need, his own children are now in court
- 23:01battling his much younger widow over
- 23:03control of his estate. the same
- 23:05arguments about who really owns the
- 23:07riches that began with the band. They
- 23:10are alleging financial elder abuse and
- 23:12torturous interference with inheritance.
- 23:15The lawsuit claims his widow took
- 23:16advantage of Robertson while he was in
- 23:19declining health after a recent surgery,
- 23:21coercing him into signing documents that
- 23:24she allegedly knew he didn't understand
- 23:27due to medication. The children are
- 23:28seeking to cancel these documents which
- 23:31they claim grant her an unfavorable life
- 23:34estate in their father's home, forcing
- 23:36them to pay expenses until she dies. In
- 23:40a strangely poetic echo of the band's
- 23:42original breakup drama, Robbie's kids
- 23:45are now accusing his widow of doing to
- 23:47him what Levon long claimed Robbie did
- 23:49to the rest of the band, taking
- 23:51advantage of someone at a vulnerable
- 23:53moment to secure a financial upper hand.
- 23:55The parallels are hard to ignore. Of
- 23:58course, they are now all gone while
- 23:59their stories and music live on. It's
- 24:01good that Robbie and Levon got to make
- 24:03peace before Levon [music] passed away.
- 24:05Our time here is short. Make peace today
- 24:08because tomorrow is promised to no one.
- 24:14Thank you for watching. I'll put a link
- 24:16to the uncensored version with longer
- 24:18music excerpts available on the Patreon
- 24:20page in the description if you want to
- 24:22watch that and be so kind as to support
- 24:25my work. This was a complicated story
- 24:27because it spans so many years [music]
- 24:29and there were several points of
- 24:31contention and two different versions of
- 24:33events. Hopefully, I showed grace to
- 24:35both sides. Almost everyone knows what
- 24:38it feels like to be ripped off and also
- 24:40to be blamed for something due to a
- 24:42misunderstanding. It's easy to jump to
- 24:44conclusions based on our own experiences
- 24:46and project that when making up our
- 24:48mind. I look for evidence and patterns
- 24:51in people's behavior when making up my
- 24:53own mind. Let me know what you think in
- 24:55the comments below. I'll put a link in
- 24:57the description as well to the books if
- 24:59you want to get more into their stories
- 25:01as well as the music featured here. I
- 25:03highly recommend both. Thanks again. See
- 25:05you next video.
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