"Why Did $30,000 in Ads Get Me Zero Customers?" — Transcript
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- 0:00Perfect. So my name is I have three
- 0:04locations,
- 0:06three dental offices in Southern
- 0:07California. So as of right now, we are
- 0:11doing around $2 million in revenue
- 0:14and we are essentially stuck.
- 0:17One of our offices is doing $1.2 million
- 0:22in revenue and the other two offices are
- 0:24underutilized.
- 0:26>> Okay.
- 0:26>> About three to 400,000.
- 0:28>> Okay.
- 0:29And you said dental offices.
- 0:31>> Health conscious.
- 0:32>> Yeah. Yeah. Dental offices.
- 0:35>> Okay. Got it.
- 0:36>> Do holistic dentistry in Orange County.
- 0:38>> Word. So what's what's holding you back?
- 0:41>> So we have a lead acquisition problem.
- 0:45So as of right now, we get about 30 new
- 0:48leads a month from a referral
- 0:52>> for all three locations. We're
- 0:53>> still Yeah. For all three locations.
- 0:56>> So you must be high ticket.
- 0:59Yeah. Yeah. High ticket.
- 1:01>> Okay. What's the average case size?
- 1:04>> Average case size presented is probably
- 1:06around 19,000 or so.
- 1:08>> Okay. Is this uh like veneers or
- 1:10something like that?
- 1:12>> A lot of implants, veneers.
- 1:14>> Okay.
- 1:14>> And like full mouth rehab. Yeah.
- 1:16>> Got it. Word. Okay. So, what do you you
- 1:19have one referral partner who's getting
- 1:20you 30 leads a month?
- 1:22>> Correct.
- 1:23>> Okay. Got it. Um, any reason you don't
- 1:26get like what' you do to get the
- 1:28referral partner that you have?
- 1:31>> We essentially just signed up signed up
- 1:33on our website. She's a big YouTube
- 1:34personality.
- 1:36>> Okay.
- 1:36>> And we're on a map essentially.
- 1:38>> Okay. Got it. Um, are there other people
- 1:40who exist like her in the world?
- 1:44>> There are there's one more. He's in
- 1:46Germany, but she's kind of the biggest
- 1:49one.
- 1:49>> Okay. Uh, can you get more from her or
- 1:5230 is the absolute max of what she
- 1:54offers?
- 1:56>> So, I mean, we can get more, but it's
- 2:00it's not a direct referral.
- 2:03People find us on our website.
- 2:05>> Okay.
- 2:05>> And then they call us and we schedule.
- 2:07>> And how do they find you?
- 2:09>> They just find us on the map. We're the
- 2:11only people in Orange County.
- 2:13>> Okay. So, any reason you're not running
- 2:15PPC pay-per-click? So, we we do run PPC
- 2:19at the moment. We ran a Facebook
- 2:22campaign
- 2:24about $10,000 a month with an agency.
- 2:26>> Okay.
- 2:27>> And the agency was the the copy was all
- 2:31towards
- 2:33low low hanging fruit and there was a
- 2:36lot of discount compassers.
- 2:38>> Uhhuh.
- 2:39>> So, right now I mean sorry over those
- 2:42three months
- 2:44we got zero patients.
- 2:46>> Okay.
- 2:47Uh,
- 2:47>> and then as of right now, we're at
- 2:49$12,000 a month
- 2:51>> in Google campaigns.
- 2:54>> And so, so you are still spending that
- 2:56money. You're just not getting patience
- 2:58from it.
- 3:00>> Just started. Just started last week to
- 3:02be honest.
- 3:02>> Got it. What's the offer?
- 3:05>> Offer is essentially a free consultation
- 3:09with a free scan, free smile assessment,
- 3:14and discounted cleaning.
- 3:15>> Yeah. Um, what can you do?
- 3:20Well, so you're spending this money now.
- 3:22Are you getting clicks? Are you getting
- 3:24leads?
- 3:26>> I've had a few clicks, few leads, but a
- 3:29lot of the keywords we're searching for
- 3:32are pretty low low volume.
- 3:35>> Uhhuh.
- 3:36>> So, we don't get too many clicks to be
- 3:37honest, but we have got a few phone
- 3:39calls, but no no actual conversion just
- 3:42yet in the past week and a half.
- 3:43>> Yeah. Um, so what's the sales motion? So
- 3:46they opt in on the site. Then what
- 3:47happens?
- 3:49>> They opt in and then I give them a call
- 3:51personally within two minutes.
- 3:54>> Wow. Okay.
- 3:56And then what happens?
- 3:59>> So once they once I give them a call, I
- 4:01get them scheduled as soon as possible.
- 4:05But as of right now,
- 4:07so we have one doctor working between
- 4:10three offices.
- 4:11>> Okay. booked out about two and a half
- 4:13weeks.
- 4:14>> Okay.
- 4:14>> So, we are essentially booking empty
- 4:17slots
- 4:19which are few and far between. So, our
- 4:21show rate is
- 4:24decent. I mean, it's about 70% but it's
- 4:26about 3 weeks out.
- 4:28>> Okay. And you just haven't met with
- 4:30these people yet or you have
- 4:31>> Sorry if I'm sorry if I'm talking a
- 4:33little weird. I'm hear a little echo in
- 4:34the background.
- 4:35>> Yeah. No, I hear it. So, they opt in,
- 4:38you call, you schedule them three weeks
- 4:40out. Okay. Then what happens?
- 4:43>> They they show up. We present the
- 4:46treatment plan. We educate them on
- 4:49exactly why we're doing this and what
- 4:51the difference is between normal.
- 4:52>> You pitch them
- 4:53>> and holistic dentistry is.
- 4:54>> Yeah. And you pitch them, right?
- 4:55>> Yeah.
- 4:56>> Okay.
- 4:57>> Scheduled as soon as possible.
- 4:58>> And then you get them rescheduled after
- 5:00they pay. You mean
- 5:03>> rescheduled? Uh I guess scheduled for
- 5:05their first appointment.
- 5:07>> But the first appointment is the thing
- 5:08that they show up for, right?
- 5:11Correct.
- 5:12>> That's where you tell them all these
- 5:13different you pitch them and then they
- 5:14come to another appointment that's a
- 5:15dental appointment.
- 5:18>> Yes.
- 5:18>> Okay. So, you do sell them on that first
- 5:20appointment. Correct.
- 5:22>> Correct.
- 5:23>> Okay. Got it. And so, you have leads
- 5:25that are going through this process.
- 5:26Since you're spending money on PPC right
- 5:28now, have you made any sales from that?
- 5:32>> From PPC? Not yet. Now,
- 5:33>> so you said you have 70% that are
- 5:35showing up. How many have showed up to
- 5:37create the 70%.
- 5:39So, we used to run PPC in the past,
- 5:43but it was pretty low. So, right now,
- 5:45>> you said you're running Google ads. So,
- 5:46what ads are you running for Google ads
- 5:48that you're spending 12,000 a month on
- 5:50that you're getting 70% shop rates for?
- 5:53>> So, we have the Google ads running for
- 5:5412,000 a month right now.
- 5:56>> Right. So, what are the what are these
- 5:58Google ads on what platform?
- 6:01Like I said PPC, which is AdWords, which
- 6:04is the same like basically I'm saying
- 6:05the same thing. You're saying one,
- 6:07you're saying we used to run PPC, now we
- 6:10run Google ads.
- 6:12Those are the same thing, unless you're
- 6:13running Google Display, which I doubt,
- 6:14or YouTube ads that are pre-roll, but
- 6:16you probably would have said YouTube
- 6:17ads. So, what are you what are we
- 6:18talking about?
- 6:20>> Yeah, I think we're talking about the
- 6:21same thing. I think I'm being a little
- 6:22bit confused.
- 6:22>> I agree. That's my point. So, you had an
- 6:24agency and then now you run it in-house
- 6:26and you're spending 12,000 a month. You
- 6:28have 70% showing up. So, people So,
- 6:30you're spending 12,000 on these
- 6:31keywords, right?
- 6:34>> Not yet. We we have 12,000 aotted.
- 6:37Haven't been able to spend it yet.
- 6:39>> So you haven't spent $12,000.
- 6:41>> No, no, we haven't in our budget.
- 6:43>> Then what are these where are the 70%
- 6:45Where's the 70% show rates coming from?
- 6:46How many leads do you have that created
- 6:47that?
- 6:49>> The 70% show up rate is coming from the
- 6:52referral
- 6:54>> organic. So this
- 6:57Okay. Okay. So you have a budget of
- 7:01$12,000 for Google Adwords that you have
- 7:03not run yet.
- 7:06Correct. It's running.
- 7:08>> Okay.
- 7:08>> I haven't utilized budget yet.
- 7:10>> Yeah.
- 7:11>> So, you haven't spent any of the money?
- 7:14>> No. Maybe like a hundred bucks so far
- 7:15has been actually utilized.
- 7:17>> Okay.
- 7:18Okay. Did the Did the other the agency
- 7:21were they able to spend your money?
- 7:24>> Yes.
- 7:25>> Okay. Got it. So, I I'll tell you I'll
- 7:27tell you the the two solutions. All
- 7:29right. Number one is the agency that you
- 7:31were working with, did they have
- 7:32customers who sold the level ticket that
- 7:34you sell?
- 7:37>> Yes.
- 7:38>> Okay, got it. And so what were those
- 7:40people doing that you weren't doing?
- 7:44>> So they were,
- 7:47you know what, let me break it down. So
- 7:48sorry, we were higher ticket than every
- 7:52single one of their customers.
- 7:54>> Okay. Okay. But did any of them sell
- 7:55like
- 7:56>> they provided?
- 7:56>> Did they sell anything that was in like
- 7:58the 8,000 plus range?
- 8:01>> Oh yeah. Yeah. 100%. Everything they
- 8:04only marketed one thing essentially.
- 8:06They they marketed like all X is what
- 8:09it's called.
- 8:10>> Okay.
- 8:10>> Which for us is a $40,000 procedure.
- 8:13>> Okay. So they do sell stuff that's more
- 8:15expensive.
- 8:17>> Yes.
- 8:19>> 10 to $20,000.
- 8:20>> Yeah. So, what I was trying to what I
- 8:22was trying to lead you to was the idea
- 8:23that you agent there was nothing wrong
- 8:25with the agency. They were getting you
- 8:26leads and you had a [ __ ] up sales
- 8:28motion.
- 8:31[clears throat]
- 8:32And so, I'll say like if I'm in your
- 8:34shoes, I would probably call that agency
- 8:36back up and say, "Can you connect me
- 8:37with the three or four people that
- 8:38you're currently working with that are
- 8:40not in my area that are making this
- 8:41work?"
- 8:44>> Now, in all likelihood, you said they
- 8:46were bringing the wrong type of people,
- 8:48right?
- 8:50Correct.
- 8:50>> But it's only the wrong type of people
- 8:52because there's no sales motion to
- 8:53basically educate them into becoming the
- 8:54right type of people. So I'll give you
- 8:56an example of this. Back in the day when
- 8:57Groupon was a thing, which you may
- 8:59remember, there were plenty of
- 9:01businesses that got on Groupon and
- 9:03people would flood, you know, the front
- 9:04end with kind of these low barrier
- 9:05offers. The business owners that didn't
- 9:07understand sales and basically compared,
- 9:09well, I get these referrals that are
- 9:11super hot and they just buy when I offer
- 9:12it to them compared to cold traffic
- 9:14sales, which is what this is. Uh, these
- 9:16people are all low quality. It's like,
- 9:17yeah, of course, compared to referrals,
- 9:19they're they're all going to be low
- 9:20quality, but believe it or not, these
- 9:22leads that that agency was sending you
- 9:24is still higher quality than metal
- 9:25leads. And so, you had this the second
- 9:28hottest leads coming to you and you
- 9:29weren't able to convert them. And so,
- 9:31the problem is the process. So, can I
- 9:33walk you through what I think you should
- 9:34do and probably turn the agency back on?
- 9:37>> Yeah. And so, just just want to let you
- 9:39know one thing as well. So, the agency
- 9:41was metal leads.
- 9:42>> Okay. Well, yeah. Then metal leads.
- 9:44Yeah. that's going to be lower quality.
- 9:46But I'll walk you through what what
- 9:47should happen. If you've never had metal
- 9:49leads come in and you just like were
- 9:51expected to run the same process,
- 9:52there's no chance you're going to be
- 9:53successful. I'll just tell you right
- 9:54now.
- 9:55>> Mhm.
- 9:56>> Okay.
- 9:56>> Yeah.
- 9:56>> So, let's say you've got meta ads. I'm
- 9:58just going to walk you through it and
- 9:59we're going to wrap with Okay. So,
- 10:01you've got your meta ads. You're going
- 10:03to go to whatever the offer page is and
- 10:04they're going to opt in. Okay. Cool. Did
- 10:06they make the opt-in page?
- 10:09>> Yes.
- 10:09>> Okay. So, I'm sure they already had a
- 10:11format that was working. After the
- 10:13opt-in page, what was the step in that
- 10:14funnel?
- 10:17>> After the optin page, it would pop up in
- 10:20a go high level page.
- 10:22>> Okay.
- 10:22>> And then I would call them immediately.
- 10:24>> Okay. So, you would did Was there a
- 10:26scheduling thing there on the thank you
- 10:28page?
- 10:30>> Yeah. They received a VSSL
- 10:34>> that I made as well as they would also
- 10:37receive automated reminders and text
- 10:39messages.
- 10:40>> Okay. But you set them on the phone,
- 10:42right?
- 10:43>> Yeah.
- 10:44>> And you're saying none of the leads were
- 10:45good.
- 10:48>> None of them qualified for financing. We
- 10:51brought we brought a few of them in,
- 10:53but I mean, these are all people who are
- 10:55missing most of their fees. So almost
- 10:58like borderline homeless people were
- 11:00coming in, so they just weren't worth
- 11:02our time to get free consultations.
- 11:04>> Yeah. So you don't have to give free
- 11:06consultations to people if they don't
- 11:07qualify.
- 11:10So I would say fundamentally like I this
- 11:13still feels very confusing because like
- 11:15PBC is probably the number one channel
- 11:17for for uh dentists doing high ticket
- 11:20work like this. And so the keywords that
- 11:23you were selecting uh or that you're
- 11:25currently bidding on uh there's probably
- 11:26more that you're missing number one.
- 11:28Number two from the sales process having
- 11:30the VSSL before and after that stuff's
- 11:32good. Meta will always get you more
- 11:34leads than PPC will because it's
- 11:35disruption based rather than intent
- 11:36based, but the leads will be colder, but
- 11:38there's an ocean of them and you can
- 11:39spend a lot more, right?
- 11:40>> And so, um, the vast majority like
- 11:43there's also a cost thing like you
- 11:44probably have to spend, I would say
- 11:46somewhere in the neighborhood of $55 to
- 11:47$10,000 per sale is probably what you
- 11:49would expect,
- 11:50>> uh, to spend for something like this.
- 11:51And that would be kind of like industry
- 11:53average. And so, you know, the spend
- 11:55that you actually had with them was
- 11:56relatively low. Um, especially if it was
- 11:58kind of like the first time you were
- 12:00really doing it. So, you spent 30 grand.
- 12:01And I can understand why that would be
- 12:02frustrating. Um, but like I would I
- 12:05would get out of the perspective of like
- 12:07all the leads are so like are you in a
- 12:09poor area?
- 12:11>> No.
- 12:11>> No. You're in Orange County, right? So
- 12:13like
- 12:13>> there there's for sure like there is a
- 12:16PPC path. There is a meta path. Both of
- 12:19them work. There's going to be opt-in
- 12:21speed to lead VSSL before when they walk
- 12:23in the door. Second VSSL when they're in
- 12:25person for the waiting room. And then
- 12:27when you present, you'll anchor high,
- 12:29get financing from the way from them
- 12:31walking in the door. You'll also get
- 12:32card on file. It'll probably be split
- 12:34because some people take financing, some
- 12:35people pay with the card. Um, you should
- 12:37collect that before you present payment
- 12:38regardless. And then from the sales
- 12:40motion itself, um, I mean, if they were
- 12:43truly homeless, then yeah, that's a
- 12:44waste of time and we should have we
- 12:45should have screened for that on the on
- 12:46the call itself. But like, what was your
- 12:48cost per lead right on on Meta?
- 12:52>> Oh, honestly, I'm not 100% sure.
- 12:55>> Okay. Um, that would be worth knowing
- 12:57obviously. Um, but like I would say that
- 13:00if you're on Meta, you're probably going
- 13:01to expect to convert, especially at your
- 13:03price point, somewhere in the like two
- 13:04to five% of leads range at your price
- 13:07point. And so it's like, okay, let's say
- 13:09cost per lead is 50 bucks. Uh, then it
- 13:12cost you if you convert 1% you're at 5
- 13:14grand a sale. That that math maths. It's
- 13:16just that you have to expect when you're
- 13:18using meta ads that like these are not
- 13:19going to be PPC or referral ads. Like
- 13:21you're going to convert one out of 20,
- 13:23one out of 50.
- 13:25And you're gonna have to put heavy
- 13:26screening on the front end.
- 13:29>> Yeah.
- 13:30>> The like those are the two
- 13:32>> screening. Would you suggest wedding
- 13:33deposit?
- 13:34>> Say it again.
- 13:36>> For the screening for metal leads or
- 13:39even the paper click on Google campaign
- 13:42as well.
- 13:42>> Huh?
- 13:43>> Would you suggest clipping a deposit?
- 13:46>> I would I would do a deposit if I felt
- 13:48if if we were having show rate issues,
- 13:50but we aren't having show up rate
- 13:51issues. The issue I think is in the set.
- 13:53So basically the friction to get on the
- 13:55call with you and what you're saying on
- 13:57the set you should have like shouldn't
- 13:58have had homeless people showing up at
- 13:59your dental office
- 14:01like you should have been able to
- 14:02qualify that on the phone and so on the
- 14:05set we should have gone for band right
- 14:06budget authority need timing like hey
- 14:08what are you looking for in terms of
- 14:09budget wise for this obviously this is a
- 14:11four figure plus investment just want to
- 14:12make sure this isn't some sort of shock
- 14:14for you the second thing is need-wise
- 14:16like how important is this from you from
- 14:171 to 10 to get this solved uh like right
- 14:20and then they'll give you a number and
- 14:21you're like great whatever the number
- 14:22they say you why isn't it a 10 and you
- 14:25say why wasn't it a one right in both of
- 14:27those scenarios basically get them to
- 14:28sell themselves on why it actually is
- 14:29important. Then the third question that
- 14:31you would ask is um timing like if we
- 14:34could wave a magic wand would you want
- 14:35it to get solved today or when would you
- 14:37want to do this? You want to solve the
- 14:38people that are either today basically
- 14:40as soon as possible within the next few
- 14:42days. The people who are like I would
- 14:44want to do this and push it out into the
- 14:45future those are kickers and are
- 14:46unlikely to close. And then authority is
- 14:49are you the person who's going to be
- 14:49able to make the financial decision for
- 14:51yourself or do you need someone else's
- 14:52permission?
- 14:56>> And so if someone opts in after watching
- 14:58a VSSL, they fill out an application uh
- 15:01and then you get on the phone and you go
- 15:02through bant, you shouldn't have people
- 15:03who are unqualified who are walking in
- 15:05the door.
- 15:08>> Yeah.
- 15:10So it sounds like
- 15:11>> out of out of all the people that we
- 15:12actually
- 15:14screened and got in the door,
- 15:17one I would say was qualified.
- 15:19>> Yeah. So I think like
- 15:23and the front end offer was a a free
- 15:25what?
- 15:27>> Free consultation and free $300 skin
- 15:30about $500 worth of value.
- 15:32>> Mhm. And it was leading to
- 15:36the implants. Correct.
- 15:39Yeah. Yeah. Leave leave.
- 15:41>> Yeah. I don't think there like honestly
- 15:42like that offer is fine. The the process
- 15:45that you laid out is more or less fine.
- 15:47It was probably missing a VSSL before
- 15:49you walked in the door. But at going
- 15:50through all of these pieces with you,
- 15:52the set call was the issue.
- 15:56>> Mhm.
- 15:57>> And I also don't know anything about the
- 15:59metrics. Like I don't know how many
- 15:59leads we had and how much the cost per
- 16:01lead was. If you had like five leads for
- 16:02$10,000, that's too expensive. If you
- 16:04had a 10,000 leads, something was wrong.
- 16:06So, if you were in the 50 to call it 150
- 16:08range, it's probably about right. I
- 16:10don't know what the creative looked
- 16:11like.
- 16:11>> Yes.
- 16:12>> Were you in the creative or was it just
- 16:13statics?
- 16:16>> It was only me essentially.
- 16:18>> Okay.
- 16:18>> Full videos. No.
- 16:19>> Okay. I've got good news and I got bad
- 16:21news for you.
- 16:24>> You might look homeless.
- 16:28>> I'm half joking. But the the reality is
- 16:30that Meta will find people that look
- 16:32like the avatar that's in the ad. And so
- 16:35making sure that the ad looks really
- 16:36premium, really high-end, and if you
- 16:39have a demographic that is more like
- 16:41your ideal customer, you want that
- 16:43person to be in the video.
- 16:46>> Yeah.
- 16:47>> Yeah. In the ad, we were in our Newport
- 16:49Beach office and I'm wearing a full suit
- 16:51essentially
- 16:52cut.
- 16:53>> Yeah. Are you wearing a suit or are you
- 16:54wearing a white lab coat?
- 16:57>> Dude, I'm not a doctor.
- 17:00>> You do dental implants?
- 17:02>> I'm not the doctor. I only manage the
- 17:04business. I am co-owner of the business,
- 17:06but we have a head doctor.
- 17:09>> Okay. You can wear a white lab coat, by
- 17:10the way.
- 17:12>> I mean, I can. Yeah.
- 17:14>> Okay.
- 17:15>> Yeah.
- 17:15>> I'll tell you right now, if you didn't
- 17:17have a lab coat, no one knew that it was
- 17:19a dental office.
- 17:22>> Fair enough.
- 17:24>> So, if what's the ideal customer for
- 17:26you?
- 17:28ideal customer is
- 17:31moms anywhere from 35 to 65.
- 17:34>> Okay.
- 17:35>> That are healthconscious.
- 17:37>> So,
- 17:37>> and kind of going against Western
- 17:39medicine.
- 17:39>> So, that's who you want in the ad. And
- 17:42you want her wearing a white lab coat,
- 17:47ideally attractive.
- 17:51>> Fair enough.
- 17:51>> I'm being dead serious, man.
- 17:54>> Yeah.
- 17:54>> That's what you need in the ads. that
- 17:56fixes the creative and then you the set
- 17:58call piece was messed up. I do think
- 18:00though given everything you're saying I
- 18:01think PPC is going to work better for
- 18:02you cuz it's a little bit easier cuz the
- 18:04leads are hotter. You're going to have a
- 18:06lower quality in the beginning. So I
- 18:08would probably like if I were you, I
- 18:11would pay for one-on-one with somebody
- 18:13who works at a PPC dental ad agency. I
- 18:18would look it up on LinkedIn. I'd find
- 18:20the guy who's one or two levels below
- 18:22who's actually doing the clicking of the
- 18:23buttons and I pay that guy 500 bucks an
- 18:25hour to walk through the keywords that
- 18:27you should be bidding for. That's what I
- 18:29would do.
- 18:31>> Gotcha.
- 18:32>> Cool.
- 18:32>> Okay, sounds
- 18:35>> appreciate you, man.
- 18:37>> Alice, I appreciate it, man. Thank you
- 18:39so much.
- 18:39>> You bet, dude. All right. Talk soon.
- 18:42>> You have a good one, man.
- 18:43>> You too. We got there. We did it. We did
- 18:46it. We got there. Success. If you're a
- 18:49business owner and you are not growing
- 18:51as fast as you'd like, I'd like to give
- 18:52you a free gift. So, my team and I put
- 18:54together the $100 million scaling
- 18:56roadmap, which is basically 200 hours of
- 18:58us looking over all the portfolio
- 18:59companies we've had and what stages of
- 19:02growth they went through and more
- 19:03importantly where they got stuck and how
- 19:05they got past it. And so we broke it in
- 19:07these 10 stages and we made this little
- 19:09kind of quiz thing where if you put in
- 19:10your business information, it'll tell
- 19:11you where you're at and the most
- 19:13important part for you, what to do for
- 19:15each of functions of the business across
- 19:16product, marketing, sales, customer
- 19:17success, recruiting, IT, human
- 19:19resources, and finance. And so no matter
- 19:21what you're struggling with, someone
- 19:23else has already struggled with it and
- 19:25solved it. And so I'd like to give you
- 19:26this thing absolutely free. free. You
- 19:27can go to acquisition.com/roadmap,
- 19:29plug in your business information, and
- 19:31if you want us to actually help you
- 19:33deconrain the business and you're trying
- 19:35to scale, we'd love to help you out on
- 19:36the thank you page. You can just book a
- 19:38call with my team and we will look at
- 19:40the business, see if we can help, and if
- 19:42we can, we'll invite you out to Vegas
- 19:43and we'll do this in person live.
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