Why AI Automation Starts With Tasks — Transcript
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- 0:00AI probably occupies half of my time
- 0:02right now
- 0:03in terms of like what I'm thinking about
- 0:05within the business.
- 0:11And so
- 0:18Okay.
- 0:20Okay, so from a beliefs perspective,
- 0:22right? Like one of the big shifts that
- 0:23everybody here has to make is shifting
- 0:25away from thinking about roles based
- 0:27growth and expansion
- 0:29towards workflow based automation. So
- 0:33Imagine that you're you're like I want
- 0:35to hire
- 0:37I want to hire an editor. All right, I'm
- 0:38just making this up. I want to hire an
- 0:40editor.
- 0:41This is how we used to think about
- 0:43things. I need to hire an editor so they
- 0:44can do XYZ.
- 0:46The way that we all have to think about
- 0:47our businesses now is that this editor
- 0:50really was going to do
- 0:53these four or five things, right? And
- 0:55each of these things should exist
- 0:59in a workflow. Like the reason that like
- 1:01and this is the editor is this one and
- 1:03they're doing this one
- 1:05in this workflow and maybe they're doing
- 1:06these three in this workflow. And so
- 1:09basically you have to go more granular
- 1:12to the level of like because every
- 1:13single business, if you really think
- 1:15about it, can be connected at the most
- 1:16intricate level of like this action to
- 1:18this action to this action to this
- 1:19action all the way through. Now might be
- 1:21120 actions that go from
- 1:23inbound lead to dirt, you know, turf,
- 1:26whatever, right? And it's getting great
- 1:29and this is the thinking that most
- 1:30people won't do, which is why they will
- 1:31lose and why I think a lot of people are
- 1:32going to get [ __ ] But if you have a
- 1:33little bit more horsepower and have a
- 1:34little bit more time to think about
- 1:36things, that's where instead of saying I
- 1:38need to hire an editor, you say I need
- 1:40an agent who just does this and I need
- 1:42an agent that just does this and an
- 1:44agent that just does this. And so it's
- 1:47switching from
- 1:49again roles to workflows.
- 1:52And everything just has to be organized
- 1:53in workflows. And so it's like a very
- 1:55fun project is thinking like can you
- 1:57actually draw your entire business in
- 1:59one linear workflow? Cuz it does happen
- 2:01and if you can't draw it,
- 2:03how the [ __ ] do you have a business,
- 2:04right? But it really starts with like
- 2:09Like the business for us, for example,
- 2:10starts with an idea. It sounds silly,
- 2:12but like it starts with an idea. So, how
- 2:14does an idea come to happen?
- 2:16Well, the what is the workflow around an
- 2:18idea? For us, it would be like, okay, um
- 2:21I check our school community and I look
- 2:24at what's happening. Okay, that is a
- 2:26workflow, which is
- 2:28uh search, you know, search this
- 2:31database, which is school, but it could
- 2:33be, you know, trends.com or you know,
- 2:35one of 10.com, whatever.
- 2:37Um where you look at what things are
- 2:39outperforming in this particular market.
- 2:41And then it says, okay, then it gives
- 2:43you this list
- 2:44of the outperformers. And then there's
- 2:46going to be a match between this list
- 2:48and our competency. So, it's like I have
- 2:51a list of things that I like talking
- 2:52about. These are list of things that
- 2:54people want to hear about. This is the
- 2:55intersection between those things.
- 2:57Great.
- 2:59What does this look like in terms of uh
- 3:01uh scripting, right? So, it's like,
- 3:03okay, we're going to have some sort of
- 3:04scripting around this.
- 3:05So, I want uh templated ideas. AI does
- 3:08this. So, it gives us
- 3:09um okay, this is a seven-step, whatever.
- 3:12And it has each of the steps underneath
- 3:14of it and we like, great. Now that the
- 3:15scripting's done,
- 3:17we're going to go into
- 3:18packaging.
- 3:20All right, what are going to be the
- 3:20headlines, what are going to be the
- 3:21thumbnails?
- 3:24This is an AI workflow.
- 3:25And then we're going to get into
- 3:26production, right? And so all of this is
- 3:29broken down just so that we can get one
- 3:30thing to happen, which is a click.
- 3:32Right, but every single element of the
- 3:34business can be broken down into the
- 3:36into its constituent workflows. And so,
- 3:38I think the mistake that a lot of people
- 3:39are making right now with AI is being
- 3:40like, well, AI can't do what a human can
- 3:42do, which is obviously [ __ ] but
- 3:44like
- 3:46you have to train it the way you train a
- 3:47human.
- 3:48So, saying like, well, I'm I'm to bring
- 3:50this this human in and tell them nothing
- 3:52and expect them to do a good job is
- 3:53ridiculous, but we're somewhere else we
- 3:55like believe that a machine should be
- 3:56able to do that. But instead it's
- 3:57thinking, okay, this editor or
- 4:00videographer or whatever it is,
- 4:02um actually does 16 actual activities
- 4:07and each of those activities we have to
- 4:09take one at a time and we can have an
- 4:10agent that's trained on that thing.
- 4:13And so like right now like Nomadic is
- 4:14working super hard with Julian on this,
- 4:16but like
- 4:17we have so I do like my Hormozi
- 4:18hotlines. And so I do a hotline and then
- 4:21that then goes into
- 4:23um
- 4:24basically an AI thing that does uh that
- 4:26breaks down the the the transcripts.
- 4:28That's like step one. From the
- 4:29transcript it then says, okay, notice
- 4:31when there's different speakers. All
- 4:33right? So it has to do that two times.
- 4:35One is notice when
- 4:36it's Alex versus the other person. So
- 4:38it's ABABAB, imagine I'm A, but then it
- 4:41eventually switches to ACACAC and then
- 4:43it goes to ADADAD because there's new
- 4:47person that I'm on the phone with. So
- 4:48it's going to say segment first between
- 4:51when it goes from AB to AC. So great,
- 4:53now we have 10 underneath clips. From
- 4:55there uh it'll run a separate script
- 4:57that's like look cuz it's like what
- 4:59would an editor do? The first thing
- 5:00you're going to clip out the individual
- 5:01portions. Okay, there's 10 different
- 5:03conversations Alex had. Okay. Now that
- 5:04we have these 10 conversations, look
- 5:06through this and try to find the highest
- 5:07tension moment. And so it'll read the
- 5:09words and say this is the highest
- 5:11tension moment. Be great, start the clip
- 5:13with the highest tension moment and then
- 5:15get into the rest of the clip. What else
- 5:17do we want? Remove all ums and ahs.
- 5:19Great. Now from there, what are the um
- 5:22what data is required in order to have
- 5:24the insight that Alex delivers? Only
- 5:26these four points. Great, collapse the
- 5:28rest. Now export final file of that.
- 5:32That's the workflow. And so it's really
- 5:34just building this on a consistent basis
- 5:36and continuing to update that prompt,
- 5:37which is literally just like updating
- 5:38the training for a human being of like
- 5:40actually do this too, just like you
- 5:41would with an editor, but doing that
- 5:43across every function of the business.
- 5:46So that is like that is the future. And
- 5:48the nice thing is that with
- 5:50there's a lot of businesses that
- 5:52like agencies, for example, have been a
- 5:54notoriously shitty business
- 5:56to run.
- 5:57Um
- 5:59but in the future, I think they'll be
- 6:01incredibly lucrative businesses for the
- 6:03people who are really good with AI
- 6:04because
- 6:06the demand for more customers is
- 6:07infinite.
- 6:09And so there's like no one's like, "Hey,
- 6:10what's product market fit for an
- 6:11agency?" You don't have to ask. People
- 6:13want customers. It's not hard to like
- 6:14you don't need to ask for product market
- 6:15fit. The issue is that
- 6:18the ops around being good at getting
- 6:20customers is significantly harder. But
- 6:22if you can operationalize each of the
- 6:23flows, it becomes much better. And this
- 6:25is why like
- 6:27like I'm built for this movement because
- 6:29it's all about being black and white
- 6:31with observable behavior. And that's
- 6:32like what I geek out on. And so this is
- 6:35where vague language like machines do
- 6:37not understand like vague language.
- 6:38Also, neither do you [ __ ] humans.
- 6:40Um we just nod our heads because we've
- 6:42been reinforced for doing so. But this
- 6:43is where being very specific about like,
- 6:45"Hey, I need you to be more
- 6:45charismatic." means nothing. We have to
- 6:47say, "I need you to raise your voice in
- 6:49this way. I need you to talk faster. I
- 6:50need you to raise your head when you're
- 6:51speaking. I need you to nod when the
- 6:52other person's talking." We have to
- 6:53break it down into what someone would
- 6:55do. And so um as though you were
- 6:57teaching a toddler, you have to work the
- 6:59same way with the machine, but the
- 7:00machine never forgets.
- 7:02Hopefully that answered the question.
- 7:04>> It does.
- 7:04>> Okay.
- 7:06But yeah, this is what I'm thinking a
- 7:07lot about.
- 7:07>> Yeah.
- 7:10So, it starts with a clear process map
- 7:12or workflow map and then every action in
- 7:14the business.
- 7:14>> Exactly. And I would I would start like
- 7:16start start with the big ideas first.
- 7:19So, it's like, "Okay, I do I I I have an
- 7:21idea."
- 7:22And then I make a script and then I uh I
- 7:25shoot it and then I you know, then we we
- 7:27export the clip and then we edit it and
- 7:29then we post it. Okay, that's the that's
- 7:31the big picture. But
- 7:33now underneath of each of those, there's
- 7:34probably six or seven things that
- 7:36actually happen in order to post it.
- 7:39It's like, "So, I actually go to this
- 7:40page. I look at the schedule of what
- 7:42was, you know, last posted, I add 3
- 7:44hours to it. I like you just have to
- 7:46like
- 7:47one word turns into six six actions. And
- 7:50it's just continuing down until there's
- 7:52you can't reduce it anymore, and then
- 7:53that's what you automate.
- 7:56>> Do you have a special AI implementation
- 7:57team to build this?
- 7:58>> Uh yeah, we have a full dev team. Yeah.
- 8:00>> Yeah, but they're pretty good at all
- 8:02this stuff.
- 8:03>> Yeah. So, I think I think many of you,
- 8:05especially those of you who are online,
- 8:08uh an amazing high-leverage hire is just
- 8:10an AI like an AI automation person.
- 8:13Um they will not lack for work to do.
- 8:15Like they can just sit next to teams and
- 8:17just watch what they're doing and then
- 8:18just say like I can automate that. I can
- 8:20automate that. I can automate that.
- 8:23>> All right.
- 8:24Is that something that we should do
- 8:25right now?
- 8:27>> Yeah.
- 8:27>> That hire?
- 8:28>> Yeah.
- 8:29If you have the cash flow for it. Mhm.
- 8:31>> What does a dev hire run?
- 8:33>> Mhm?
- 8:33>> What does a
- 8:34somebody like that run?
- 8:36>> Depends on how good they are. I think
- 8:38though as Lindsay Lohan said it best,
- 8:40limits do not exist. So,
- 8:42like there there's a there's a
- 8:44there's a price tag for every level of
- 8:45skill you want.
- 8:47But even just somebody who would I would
- 8:48just consider like a hacker, and I say
- 8:50hacker like loosely, like somebody who
- 8:51just duct tapes tools together,
- 8:53probably like 150 grand a year.
- 8:58>> And then in terms of prioritizing for
- 8:59us, would you focus on the delivery side
- 9:01first?
- 9:02>> I think that you getting um
- 9:06the elements that we walked through
- 9:07specifically around the expectation
- 9:09setting number one, um
- 9:12I think CAC expectations number two,
- 9:14and then the controllables around brand.
- 9:17Like the the brand controllables, I
- 9:18think that should be largely automated.
- 9:21Um because it is automatable. It's
- 9:23literally pattern detection, which is
- 9:24like machines do it better than humans
- 9:26do anyways.
- 9:27And so, what what humans do shitty at is
- 9:29giving the pattern to recognize. And so,
- 9:32that's like in terms of like what skill
- 9:33will you need to be get good at is when
- 9:36someone says like this is off brand, be
- 9:37like what the [ __ ] does that mean? Like
- 9:39tell me in describables so that
- 9:41otherwise how am I if you can't tell me,
- 9:43how am I going to know?
- 9:45So it has to be in black and white
- 9:46language.
- 9:50Yeah.
- 9:51I think for like home services and brick
- 9:53and mortar, a lot of um basically all
- 9:56administrative work should just not
- 9:58really be a thing.
- 9:59Like, you know, invoicing, matching
- 10:02billables, like back office for sure is
- 10:05or like that's already there. Like
- 10:06that's like now.
- 10:08Um
- 10:09receivables, that's like now. Like you
- 10:12don't need to There's nothing there.
- 10:13Lead nurture,
- 10:15that's now. Like you don't
- 10:17Like a lot of that stuff's already
- 10:18already kind of done. The advantage that
- 10:21um y'all have for in person is that like
- 10:23I don't know how horses will respond to
- 10:25robots. So you probably have a little
- 10:27bit of You probably have a little bit of
- 10:28security, you know, like
- 10:30otherwise you're getting you know mule
- 10:31kicks into the into the side of the
- 10:33stall.
- 10:34>> [laughter]
- 10:34>> Um
- 10:35uh
- 10:37I think that from a landscaping
- 10:38perspective,
- 10:40there will be kind of like once Optimus
- 10:42comes out and you can teach it how to
- 10:43like mow lawns and [ __ ] like that'll be
- 10:44a thing for sure.
- 10:46Um
- 10:47Hm?
- 10:49Yeah.
- 10:50Yeah, yeah, I mean it can do it.
- 10:52Um there'll also be I think like job
- 10:54specific ones, but most likely I think
- 10:56the biggest proliferation's going to be
- 10:57around generalized humanoid robots
- 10:58because the world is already built for
- 10:59us. And so like as much as it's like,
- 11:02you know, I'm sure you've seen like the
- 11:03like the Roomba of lawn care, I'm sure
- 11:06you've seen these things where it's like
- 11:07you drop it around, but like I haven't
- 11:09seen anyone really take off with that.
- 11:11At least I haven't seen it. And I think
- 11:13it's just because like there's too many
- 11:14unique scenarios, it costs too much like
- 11:16the cost doesn't make sense yet. Maybe
- 11:18in three or four generations it'll be
- 11:20there, but in the meantime the skeleton
- 11:23key for the world is just the way the
- 11:24human body works. Door handles,
- 11:26everything's already built for that. So
- 11:28it's like as silly as it sounds, it's
- 11:29like the The already We already built
- 11:30the world for ourselves.
- 11:32If there's a robot that can fit
- 11:33underneath the door, we could make a
- 11:35special purpose robot that does that,
- 11:36but it's like you'd have to do that in
- 11:37every door in every building. Or you
- 11:40just build a [ __ ] human robot, which
- 11:41is what everyone's doing.
- 11:44Yeah, I think I think you're fine for
- 11:45the short term. The The stuff that you
- 11:46should be focusing on from an automation
- 11:48perspective is going to be back office.
- 11:50Yeah. And there's And the thing is it's
- 11:52great at that. It's [ __ ] awesome at
- 11:54it. And you should totally use it for
- 11:55that.
- 12:00The UAJ.
- 12:01>> Yeah, like would that be something like
- 12:02using AR for like the nurture like that
- 12:05stuff and like
- 12:05>> 100%.
- 12:09Right now, voice is almost there. This
- 12:11is supposed to be the year of voice.
- 12:13Um it's close. It's not.
- 12:16There's a lot of tools out there. I
- 12:17won't make any recommendations cuz like
- 12:19they change all the time.
- 12:21Um I would say voice is very close.
- 12:23Text is there.
- 12:25>> Yeah, I [snorts] was just thinking about
- 12:26like
- 12:27off hours having
- 12:29like a voice like auto
- 12:32auto attendant.
- 12:34>> I went to a gym
- 12:35that was local here. It's a It's like a
- 12:37very exclusive like whatever. I think
- 12:39it's like 10 grand a year or something
- 12:40like that. It has like
- 12:42400 members and that's the deal.
- 12:44Um pretty interesting model. But I went
- 12:47to the site and it was just a chat
- 12:48interface. It just said like what do you
- 12:50want to know?
- 12:51And so I was like hours and it was like
- 12:52here's the hours. I was like what else
- 12:53do you want to know? And I was like
- 12:54membership prices and it was like here's
- 12:56the membership prices. What else do you
- 12:57want to know? I was like uh
- 13:00I mean it should have asked me for my
- 13:01information, but
- 13:03It's not per It was not well trained
- 13:04enough.
- 13:04>> [laughter]
- 13:05>> Um but like I was like this is pretty
- 13:07slick.
- 13:11Like why navigate when it just already
- 13:12has the answers?
- 13:16Not to get very odd for you guys, but in
- 13:17the next I would say 12 to 24 months a
- 13:19lot of like the UX is going to
- 13:21disappear.
- 13:22Like we're not going to be clicking
- 13:23things.
- 13:24Like the mouse Like what brought
- 13:27computers into mainstream was a mouse.
- 13:30Like that was the big innovation was
- 13:32having a mouse you could point and click
- 13:33and then all of a sudden people are
- 13:33like, "Oh, I just want that thing." It's
- 13:34like click and it worked. And so,
- 13:37nothing's really kind of happened in the
- 13:39computational world besides speed and
- 13:40power and all that stuff, but it's all
- 13:41been
- 13:42um more of the same. The next phase
- 13:45shift is that UX disappears, which is
- 13:47that you just have an agent that you
- 13:49just talk to.
- 13:50Right? And you say, "Hey, you know, what
- 13:51did we do in cash flow last month?" And
- 13:53you just text it or you say it and it
- 13:55just answers.
- 13:56And like the world of CRMs is going to
- 13:58Like this is This is the next 12 to 24.
- 14:00Yeah.
- 14:01Yeah.
- 14:03>> Don't you think that we are very into
- 14:04it, but 99% of people are still
- 14:06>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, there are legal
- 14:08firms that use fax machines now. And so,
- 14:11there's this idea that like, "Oh my god,
- 14:12the whole world." It's like, "No, just
- 14:13like always, humans plus technology will
- 14:16beat humans with inferior technology."
- 14:18And so, if you learn how to use the
- 14:19tech, you'll do better. But there will
- 14:21be people who still have law firms and
- 14:23use fax machines that will make money.
- 14:25It's just there will be people who don't
- 14:26use fax machines that will make more
- 14:28money.
- 14:32So, I'm not like an AI alarmist. I think
- 14:33it's going to take a while, but
- 14:35um
- 14:36I do think there's I won't even get into
- 14:38that, so I'll just stop, but
- 14:40we just get too much of a future no one
- 14:41knows anything about. I can't give you
- 14:42every single SOP, that would be
- 14:43ridiculous. It would be like this long,
- 14:44[music] but these are the top five SOPs
- 14:46that we have used to scale that Leila
- 14:48actually put together [music] for us cuz
- 14:50she's really been the one who operates
- 14:51the business. And so, yeah, I don't know
- 14:53what's inside of it, but um it's good.
- 14:55So, be sure to check it out cuz Leila
- 14:56made [music] it and she makes good
- 14:57stuff. It's her.
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