Why a Short Trial Can Sell a Long Service — Transcript
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- 0:00I sell high school English tutoring to
- 0:03parents of students mostly who want to
- 0:05study competitive courses like medicine
- 0:08at university.
- 0:10We do 20k a month in revenue, 15k
- 0:13profit. So
- 0:16per year.
- 0:17That'd be 250-ish this year.
- 0:20>> And are you the only employee of the
- 0:22business?
- 0:22>> Uh no, I have six other tutors under me.
- 0:26Now.
- 0:27>> Okay.
- 0:29>> Um and I would like to get to a million
- 0:32in revenue.
- 0:33>> Okay.
- 0:34>> To start with.
- 0:34>> Okay.
- 0:35>> And then go from there.
- 0:37>> Okay.
- 0:39>> Um at the moment I think what's stopping
- 0:41me is the offer and sales process.
- 0:44>> Okay.
- 0:45>> And so I've got sort of two questions.
- 0:48One is
- 0:49can you help me with my offer?
- 0:51>> I'll do my best.
- 0:53>> Um and then the second one is
- 0:55specifically I booked a call to come to
- 0:58this workshop because
- 1:00I changed my advertising campaign in
- 1:03February and although my cost per lead
- 1:06dropped by 75% the traffic was horrible
- 1:10and then none of them continued as
- 1:11clients. So
- 1:14I was wondering if you had any thoughts
- 1:15around that.
- 1:16>> you doing when you were making sales?
- 1:17>> [snorts]
- 1:18>> So I had ads going to a short three-week
- 1:22summer program.
- 1:23>> Okay.
- 1:23>> And then I just sort of
- 1:25varied that through the year and that
- 1:27worked really well through 2024 but um
- 1:30it sort of
- 1:31one thing I noticed was despite the fact
- 1:33that it was a short program, everyone
- 1:35who was coming through just kind of
- 1:36didn't really want the program. They
- 1:37just wanted ongoing tutoring.
- 1:39>> Mhm.
- 1:40>> So and then that ad sort of started
- 1:42dying a little bit in February. So I
- 1:44changed to an ad that was just for like
- 1:47ongoing tutoring.
- 1:48>> Uh-huh.
- 1:49>> Um and I had like 100 people come
- 1:51>> targeting, same
- 1:52>> Yeah, well the other thing was that
- 1:54Facebook changed the targeting thing so
- 1:56I couldn't target 35 and above. I think
- 1:58the minimum
- 2:00or the maximum age limit I could put on
- 2:02it was 25.
- 2:03>> Okay.
- 2:04>> So, I started getting a bunch more
- 2:05students coming through when usually I
- 2:07just want to talk to parents because
- 2:09obviously they make the decision.
- 2:11>> Yeah.
- 2:12>> Yeah.
- 2:13>> Okay. So, the issue is that you just
- 2:16have a demand problem.
- 2:17Um I think that so as much as
- 2:21you felt like people came in saying,
- 2:22"Oh, I just want this thing."
- 2:24So, I'll tell you I'll tell you a story
- 2:26that might illustrate the point. So,
- 2:28it's called the ham and the garlic. So,
- 2:29little boy
- 2:31uh wants a dog, begs his begs his dad
- 2:33for a dog.
- 2:34Um dad says no, finally caves in and
- 2:35says, "I'll get you a dog, but you have
- 2:36to take care of everything." So, one day
- 2:38dad's away uh and then the kid uh comes
- 2:41crying to his grandmother cuz he has the
- 2:42dog and he realizes the dog has ticks.
- 2:44He's like, "Oh my dad, you know, my god,
- 2:45my dad's going to kill me." So,
- 2:47grandmother says, "Hey, you know, give
- 2:49this uh give this garlic to the dog and
- 2:52it will um
- 2:53it'll eat it and it'll kind of sweat
- 2:55sweat it out and the ticks will go
- 2:56away." So, the kid tries to feed the dog
- 2:58and does this and doesn't want to eat
- 2:59it. So, the kid's even more upset now,
- 3:01it goes back to the grandmother and
- 3:02says, "What do I do? It's not eating."
- 3:04She says, "Oh, you didn't just give it
- 3:05to it, did you?" She's like, "You have
- 3:06to wrap it in the ham first." She's
- 3:08like, "Then give it to him." So, he goes
- 3:09back, wraps in the ham, dog eats it, you
- 3:12know, the day is saved and everything's
- 3:13good. So, the moral of the story is you
- 3:15have to give people what they want in
- 3:16order to give them what they need. And
- 3:17so, if people were buying the three-week
- 3:19thing,
- 3:20some people might say, "Hey, I really
- 3:22just want like no person ever bought a
- 3:23gym saying like gym membership saying,
- 3:26'I really want a lifestyle.'"
- 3:28Like [snorts and laughter]
- 3:29never. Not once. Right? They want a
- 3:31six-week challenge. They want a 21-day
- 3:33detox. They want a 28-day fix. Whatever
- 3:36it is. And so, if you sell a defined end
- 3:38thing on the front end, it really just
- 3:40becomes a sales motion to sell the thing
- 3:42that they then realize because you have
- 3:43a longer period of time to educate them
- 3:45on what matters. Right? So, we would
- 3:47say, "Okay, listen, we're going to help
- 3:48you lose 20 lbs six weeks, but let's be
- 3:49real, you know, Dorothy, like you are 50
- 3:52lb overweight. This you know, 6 weeks
- 3:54from now you're still going to not be
- 3:55happy with how you look. So, why don't
- 3:57we just actually solve this problem for
- 3:58good? And now that she's in it, she's
- 4:00seen momentum, she's like, "Okay, now
- 4:02I'm into it I'm into this and I want to
- 4:03stick long term, right?" So, um I think
- 4:06for you, if the 3-week thing number one
- 4:08was selling, I would go back to that.
- 4:11Number two is it sounds like your
- 4:12creative might have just suffered. So,
- 4:13probably having more variation of the of
- 4:15the of the offer that actually worked.
- 4:17Number three is how do you upsell those
- 4:18people from the 3-week in the
- 4:20continuity, which is you just take the
- 4:223-week thing and then just bundle it
- 4:24against a 1-year package.
- 4:26>> Okay.
- 4:28Generally people
- 4:30Okay, so two things. One,
- 4:33um there are four terms in a school
- 4:35year. So, generally I bill like for
- 4:37those terms. Should I
- 4:40should I bundle the 3-week thing against
- 4:43like a term package or should I do it
- 4:44just against a year package to get them
- 4:46to
- 4:47>> I would do a year.
- 4:48>> Okay.
- 4:49>> And if you want an offer, what's the
- 4:51outcome that you give them?
- 4:53>> Hopefully they score in the top
- 4:56Generally people want to be in the top
- 4:5710% of the state.
- 4:59>> Is there points though?
- 5:00>> Yeah, so you get a score out of 50 and
- 5:04>> Okay.
- 5:04>> Yeah.
- 5:05>> So, you might say most people want 40
- 5:06plus. You might say you know, four
- 5:08points or 10% on your score or I'll keep
- 5:11tutoring you for free until you get it.
- 5:13>> [snorts]
- 5:14>> Okay.
- 5:15>> That's pretty compelling.
- 5:17>> All right.
- 5:18>> And then the fear that you're going to
- 5:19have is what happens if someone just
- 5:21doesn't get the scores, they'll give up.
- 5:24>> [laughter]
- 5:24>> I'm telling you, like people don't just
- 5:25keep studying for years and not get
- 5:27scores.
- 5:28>> [snorts]
- 5:28>> Yeah.
- 5:29Another question I had is one of the
- 5:31biggest tutoring companies in my state
- 5:33does
- 5:35I think around a million a month and
- 5:37their offer is just a 1-week free trial
- 5:40or 2 weeks before the school year
- 5:41starts.
- 5:42>> Yeah.
- 5:43Why don't they just sell people straight
- 5:45into tutoring?
- 5:46>> That company.
- 5:47>> No, but you get my point is that it's a
- 5:49defined end thing. They let people they
- 5:51give them the the ham, which is what
- 5:52they want, try it, taste it, and then
- 5:55they sell them into long-term thing. So,
- 5:57the fact that the three-week thing works
- 5:58better than just go buy my continuity
- 6:00makes sense cuz continuity is rarely
- 6:02sold that way.
- 6:03>> Okay.
- 6:04>> Cool.
- 6:05>> All right. Thank you.
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- 6:26enjoy.
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