When The Mob Came For Riley Gaines — Transcript

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1. 0:00you were at San Francisco State
2. 0:02University right so that's fun don't go
3. 0:05to universities because they're pretty
4. 0:06damn pathological so now you went there
5. 0:08and you were invited to go there so
6. 0:10you're actually a guest right so he in
7. 0:13principle they should treat you nicely
8. 0:15since you're a guest and you're taking
9. 0:17your time and energy to go talk to
10. 0:19people who invited you and why and what
11. 0:23happened when you went there I was
12. 0:24invited by the Leadership Institute
13. 0:27um which is an organization that tries
14. 0:30to advance
15. 0:32um really they uphold the freedom of
16. 0:33speech they they do they try to advance
17. 0:36the conservative movement on college
18. 0:38campuses and so I spoke at a turning
19. 0:40point event
20. 0:42um
21. 0:43I'll kind of fill you in step by step of
22. 0:45what this looked like
23. 0:47I got there
24. 0:49um I was supposed to meet the campus
25. 0:51police department an hour and a half
26. 0:53before the event we were set to meet at
27. 0:55this parking garage and then walk over
28. 0:57to the event together
29. 0:59the police never showed up and so I
30. 1:03didn't think much of it you know there
31. 1:05was still an hour and a half before so I
32. 1:07figured I could just walk over and I'm
33. 1:08sure they would make their way over we
34. 1:10would talk about an exit strategy if
35. 1:12something were to happen which I I
36. 1:14thought I knew what I was getting myself
37. 1:16into I knew this was San Francisco I
38. 1:18knew this was a different environment
39. 1:20which
40. 1:21almost excites me not because I want
41. 1:24controversy or because I'm looking for
42. 1:26arguments but because this is an
43. 1:28opportunity to get in front of people
44. 1:29who don't agree with me I was more
45. 1:32hopeful that they would come with
46. 1:34somewhat of an open mind to which they
47. 1:37simply didn't there were some there were
48. 1:39some civil yeah that was that was
49. 1:41definitely naive that was definitely but
50. 1:44yeah that's excusable and acceptable
51. 1:45while you were going to University
52. 1:47campus did you think you were a
53. 1:49conservative
54. 1:50I am
55. 1:52sorry did you say did they think or do I
56. 1:54think no no do you well you know you
57. 1:56talk to Turning Point that's Charlie
58. 1:58Kirk's organization right it's a
59. 1:59definitely a conservative organization
60. 2:01had did you have before all of this did
61. 2:04you consider yourself a political
62. 2:05creature did you have a political home
63. 2:07or an affiliation I am I've always been
64. 2:10politically in tune I've always been
65. 2:12pretty up-to-date and knowledgeable
66. 2:14about the different issues we face and
67. 2:16what that looks like and typically My
68. 2:19Views do align conservative
69. 2:21um that's not to say every view I'm not
70. 2:23someone who is going to feel like I have
71. 2:26to lean a certain way because that's how
72. 2:28I align that's not me
73. 2:30um but I like to be well versed I like
74. 2:32to be knowledgeable about what's going
75. 2:34on and so I've always been in tune shall
76. 2:36we say but by no means did I have any
77. 2:40sort of political background or
78. 2:43um any sort of
79. 2:45ulterior motive to where I wanted to be
80. 2:47in the position that I'm in right right
81. 2:49so you weren't a political actor oh
82. 2:51goodness no
83. 2:52um yeah okay but always tried to be
84. 2:54knowledgeable who's where who's doing
85. 2:57what
86. 2:58um I always watch the news and things of
87. 3:01that
88. 3:02um but by no means did I feel equipped
89. 3:04for the position I'm in I still don't
90. 3:06I'm learning no no I bet I'm learning
91. 3:07every day okay so back to back to SFU
92. 3:10you're there the police who are supposed
93. 3:12to help you don't show up and so you're
94. 3:16looking forward to this event and so
95. 3:18let's continue walking through the the
96. 3:20day's events so we walk over to the room
97. 3:23it's in a building it's on the third
98. 3:24floor
99. 3:25um
100. 3:26very quickly the room fills up
101. 3:30um it's there's some there's it's about
102. 3:3350 50 supporters versus protesters in
103. 3:35the room
104. 3:36um but they very quickly reach the
105. 3:38maximum capacity to which the
106. 3:40administrators who were president said
107. 3:42you know we're not allowing anyone else
108. 3:43in the room
109. 3:44and I was cool with that
110. 3:47um I understood up at this point that
111. 3:49there was some counter events going on
112. 3:51some some protests around campus one of
113. 3:54which they they organized this big sign
114. 3:57making event where the protesters they
115. 4:00got together and they all made signs and
116. 4:02they all walked over together they
117. 4:04orchestrated to sit in to where they sat
118. 4:06in the speech which again I'm I
119. 4:09understand that's your right to protest
120. 4:10you have the right to organize
121. 4:13um by no means do I think that I'm
122. 4:15worthy of stopping that
123. 4:17um that's understandable as long as
124. 4:20again it's it's civil and somewhat
125. 4:22respectful right
126. 4:24um
127. 4:25so I was able to deliver my speech I
128. 4:28talked for probably 40 minutes and let
129. 4:30me reiterate what my speech was I talked
130. 4:32about what it takes to compete at that
131. 4:34level
132. 4:35um my background how this is a lifelong
133. 4:38journey I talked about the competition I
134. 4:39talked about the locker room I talked
135. 4:41about the silencing piece not just from
136. 4:43the female athletes but parents
137. 4:45administrators medical professionals
138. 4:47even
139. 4:48um
140. 4:49nothing opinionated really my speech
141. 4:52there's no opinions in it it's strictly
142. 4:54my experience
143. 4:55um so I was able to deliver the speech I
144. 4:57answered questions afterwards to which I
145. 4:59was met with lots of questions and
146. 5:01oppositions which I find extremely easy
147. 5:03to answer whether they
148. 5:06um take my answer that's on them but
149. 5:08they're all easy to answer
150. 5:11um but it was only after the speech I
151. 5:13just had concluded it had been probably
152. 5:14an hour
153. 5:15everyone was standing up to leave
154. 5:18and as people were standing to leave
155. 5:21first of all I should mention while I
156. 5:22was giving my speech I could hear people
157. 5:24outside the building I could hear them
158. 5:26chanting and it was a large group of
159. 5:28people you could tell I could hear them
160. 5:30chanting things such as trans women are
161. 5:32women or other chants they could come up
162. 5:34with
163. 5:35but as I continued my speech I could
164. 5:37hear chance getting closer and closer to
165. 5:40when
166. 5:41I concluded I could hear these people
167. 5:43right outside the hallway to where one
168. 5:46side of the hallway would yell trans
169. 5:48rights are under attack the other side
170. 5:50of the hallway would yell back what did
171. 5:52we do we fight back and so I could hear
172. 5:54this which was a bit unnerving just to
173. 5:57know that they were right outside the
174. 5:59door but again I I didn't really let it
175. 6:02bother me that's not something that
176. 6:03necessarily shook me at the time
177. 6:06but everyone stood up to leave
178. 6:09all of a sudden
179. 6:11a mob of people enter into the room they
180. 6:15rush into the room they flicker the
181. 6:17lights they turn the lights off and this
182. 6:19is when they rush to the podium where I
183. 6:22was and some other members of The
184. 6:24Turning Point chapter were
185. 6:26and this is where we were met with
186. 6:29assault and violence
187. 6:31um so they turned the lights off so how
188. 6:34dark is it in there when the lights are
189. 6:35off this this period is a blur to me it
190. 6:40all happened so quickly
191. 6:42um I felt so disoriented I felt so
192. 6:44jostled I felt so confused you know what
193. 6:46is happening I was told granted I never
194. 6:48talked with the police before this but
195. 6:50the Turning Point members told me you
196. 6:52know the police said they're going to
197. 6:53lock the doors at a certain time there
198. 6:55should be no problems
199. 6:57um we'll be good so I I was under the
200. 6:59impression that the doors would be
201. 7:01locked which they were not
202. 7:04um so it all just happened so quickly
203. 7:05but yes they turned the lights off and
204. 7:07it's it was night time outside so it's
205. 7:10Pitch Black in this room which of course
206. 7:11you have to imagine it's really dark oh
207. 7:13so that was a sneaky little move yeah
208. 7:15the campus police are completely they're
209. 7:18com oh of course it's intentional they
210. 7:19know exactly what they're doing and and
211. 7:21the campus police are 100 unprepared for
212. 7:24any real aggression absolutely you know
213. 7:27they're yeah yeah and I mean to some
214. 7:29degree that's on them and it's on the
215. 7:30administration but it's also outside
216. 7:32their normal course of training and
217. 7:34activity they have no idea what to do so
218. 7:36the idea that you're going to be
219. 7:37protected by campus police on campus you
220. 7:40can bloody well just forget about that
221. 7:41that's not going to happen Okay so now
222. 7:44it's dark and who is it that's rushing
223. 7:47you exactly and how many of them are
224. 7:48there a mob of trans rights activists
225. 7:51whether that be trans individuals
226. 7:53themselves whether that be people within
227. 7:56this lgbtq community whether that be
228. 7:58someone who just considers themselves an
229. 8:01ally to this community there were so
230. 8:03many different
231. 8:05I don't want to say combinations of a
232. 8:08person but there were men dressed as
233. 8:10women and women dressed as men and
234. 8:11everything in between so it was very
235. 8:14again disorienting it was like who am I
236. 8:16being met with what is happening
237. 8:19um so as the lights are flickering the
238. 8:21lights are on they're off an officer
239. 8:23approaches me
240. 8:25um very quickly and she grabs me and
241. 8:27she's wearing nothing that indicates
242. 8:28she's an officer and again I hadn't met
243. 8:30her she never alerted me she was in the
244. 8:32room her face is covered with a mask and
245. 8:35she tells me very quickly trying to pull
246. 8:37me along as more people are filtering
247. 8:40into the room she says come with me I'm
248. 8:42I'm with the police and I didn't believe
249. 8:44her why would I believe her right
250. 8:47um so I was very hesitant I was
251. 8:49reluctant but truthfully I had no other
252. 8:51choice at this point because I was being
253. 8:53we were being rushed at the front of the
254. 8:54room
255. 8:55so we kind of navigate out of the room
256. 8:57we're only met with more protesters once
257. 9:00we get into the hallway we couldn't even
258. 9:01come out of the door of the classroom
259. 9:03because there were so many people
260. 9:04filtering in that we had to go out this
261. 9:06back door that led us to another
262. 9:08classroom to get out that way
263. 9:11um to which when we got to the hallway
264. 9:13you look down to the staircase there's
265. 9:16hundreds of people you look down to the
266. 9:18other staircase of course which is your
267. 9:21exit path to get out of the building and
268. 9:23it's hundreds of people
269. 9:25so ultimately we had no other choice
270. 9:27than this officer led me to another room
271. 9:29along that same hallway where
272. 9:32I was barricaded for three hours over
273. 9:34three hours
274. 9:36um which was
275. 9:38interesting it was I mean you in those
276. 9:41moments in those hours you fear for your
277. 9:43life hearing what these people are
278. 9:46yelling hearing the things they want to
279. 9:48do to you
280. 9:49um an array of things all of which were
281. 9:51violent and vengeful and hateful and all
282. 9:53of the words of course in the well let's
283. 9:56hear them let's hear him what did they
284. 9:58tell you some of the things they were
285. 9:59yelling
286. 10:00um one of the terms they kept using
287. 10:02which I think is so ironic
288. 10:04um they kept saying we fight back
289. 10:07and I thought about this and I thought
290. 10:10the day before this event the day before
291. 10:14the Press Secretary of the body
292. 10:16Administration in a press conference
293. 10:18said the words our trans Community
294. 10:20they're resilient and they fight back
295. 10:22and so it just kept replaying in my head
296. 10:25wow they're using verbatim the same
297. 10:27verbiage that Jean-Pierre whatever her
298. 10:30name is is using
299. 10:33um they were yelling I see so this is
300. 10:34right from the top that that that's
301. 10:36that's one of the things that really
302. 10:37makes you wonder just exactly what
303. 10:39country you're in at a time like that
304. 10:41doesn't it absolutely the people who are
305. 10:43who are threatening you and barricading
306. 10:45you in because you're objecting to being
307. 10:47uh what would you say subjected to an
308. 10:50unfair competition by any reasonable
309. 10:53standard and now you're being mobbed by
310. 10:56half demented lunatics directly who are
311. 10:59directly acting out words that have come
312. 11:01up come from the highest possible state
313. 11:04or well Federal authorities yeah that's
314. 11:06real cute there's a betrayal for you
315. 11:08that's a nice one they were yelling
316. 11:10things
317. 11:11um such as to the officers who were
318. 11:13standing outside they were saying you
319. 11:15know you're only protecting her because
320. 11:16she's white they were yelling things
321. 11:19which is
322. 11:21they were yelling things such as you
323. 11:23know you shouldn't have come here you
324. 11:24should have known what you were getting
325. 11:25yourself into you knew we would Riot let
326. 11:27her out of that room so we can handle
327. 11:29her ourselves
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367. 13:01hmm what do you think would have
368. 13:03happened what do you think would have
369. 13:04happened just out of curiosity or what
370. 13:06were you imagining would happen if you
371. 13:08would have if they would have got access
372. 13:09to you have any sense like realistic
373. 13:12yeah yeah we saw what happened to Posey
374. 13:15Parker absolutely right I mean she she
375. 13:17got mob quite nicely and she had tomato
376. 13:19soup downstairs it never got to the
377. 13:22point of you know permanent physical
378. 13:24violence but but they wouldn't want to
379. 13:26do
380. 13:27what do you think would have happened I
381. 13:29think just that I think these people
382. 13:31based off of what they were saying I
383. 13:33mean they were explicitly saying they
384. 13:34wanted to hurt me
385. 13:36um yeah I don't know to what extent that
386. 13:39looks like but I'll tell you these
387. 13:40people are they were unhinged they were
388. 13:43Relentless
389. 13:44um and that's something they kept saying
390. 13:45is we're not letting up right well and
391. 13:48they're in a mob too which is always a
392. 13:49bad thing right because even if each of
393. 13:51those people was only five percent
394. 13:53insane on their own in a mob they're 100
395. 13:55insane and so yeah and so how many
396. 13:58people are in there barricaded in with
397. 14:00you and why were the barricades
398. 14:02effective why didn't they just like
399. 14:03hammer down the doors and have at her it
400. 14:06was just in terms of
401. 14:08people in the room other than the
402. 14:10officers it was just me in that room
403. 14:12there was a few officers who would
404. 14:15filter in and out but there was a few
405. 14:17campus officers who stood outside the
406. 14:19door who kept people from I guess
407. 14:21tearing down the door
408. 14:23um how did they treat you how did the
409. 14:25officers themselves treat you what was
410. 14:27their attitude towards you like I was I
411. 14:30of course respect law enforcement and
412. 14:32applaud them for their job because it's
413. 14:34a hard job and it's a thankless job
414. 14:37um but these officers were
415. 14:42I don't know if pitiful is too harsh but
416. 14:45they were terrified they were terrified
417. 14:47yeah they were scared to be seen as
418. 14:49anything other than an ally to this
419. 14:51community there was one person in the
420. 14:54mob who was African-American who I guess
421. 14:57the officer just had to push around a
422. 14:59little into which this person yelled
423. 15:00back you know you're only doing this
424. 15:02because I'm African-American I'm going
425. 15:04to sue and so these officers they don't
426. 15:06want to put themselves in that position
427. 15:07they've seen how that's gone in the past
428. 15:09again to a much greater extreme but they
429. 15:13don't they don't want to deal with this
430. 15:15they they want all hands off deck so it
431. 15:17affected how they did their job
432. 15:21um they were terrified of
433. 15:24creating a safe exit strategy for me
434. 15:26using Force by any means I missed my
435. 15:28flight home
436. 15:29um to which I told them you know I'm I'm
437. 15:31gonna miss my flight is there something
438. 15:33we can do I want to go home I don't want
439. 15:35to be stuck in San Francisco anymore to
440. 15:38which at this point I began to get upset
441. 15:39so you're essentially at that point
442. 15:41you're essentially kidnapped well it
443. 15:43gets even better from there because yeah
444. 15:46okay inside this room I could hear these
445. 15:48protesters on the outside
446. 15:50and probably two hours or so in maybe
447. 15:53two and a half these protesters the dean
448. 15:56of students shows up
449. 15:57these protesters are trying to negotiate
450. 15:59if I make it home safely they're saying
451. 16:01if she wants to make it home she has to
452. 16:03pay us to which this dean of students is
453. 16:06negotiating with them they all claim
454. 16:08they pay you what they pay you meaning
455. 16:10what I had to pay the mob that's what
456. 16:13they were claiming what what did you
457. 16:16have to pay them
458. 16:17um a couple suggestions one person
459. 16:20suggested you know if she wants to make
460. 16:21it home safely she has to pay us ten
461. 16:23dollars each
462. 16:25um which is so silly
463. 16:28um but it's not silly it's kidnapping I
464. 16:31I it's it's not silly it's horrible it's
465. 16:33it's beyond reproach and so beyond it's
466. 16:36it's beyond it's beyond surreal oh
467. 16:39that's amazing and and so the dean of
468. 16:41this the dean of students didn't
469. 16:44take names and decide that those were
470. 16:46some students that could be easily
471. 16:48dispensed with and removed from the
472. 16:50campus permanently
473. 16:52she decided she'd negotiate with him
474. 16:53play nice because after all they were
475. 16:55all they were doing was kidnapping you
476. 16:57and extortion and engaging in extortion
477. 16:59with the threat of violence that's all
478. 17:01they were doing whereas you were you
479. 17:04know complaining about the fact that
480. 17:06you'd been subjected to an utterly
481. 17:07unfair competition by officials that had
482. 17:11betrayed you that's your crime their
483. 17:13crime is kidnapping and extortion and
484. 17:15you'll love this cute because after this
485. 17:18event
486. 17:19um I can and I can talk a little bit
487. 17:22about how I actually got out but after
488. 17:24this event
489. 17:26um rather than releasing a statement
490. 17:28saying we condemn violence or
491. 17:32um we have to uphold the freedom of
492. 17:33speech the vice president of student
493. 17:35affairs her name is Dr Jamila Moore she
494. 17:38sent out an email to their student body
495. 17:40in this email it says
496. 17:43we applaud our brave students
497. 17:47they were in a situation where they were
498. 17:51met with adversity they were met with
499. 17:54um they were put in a very hard
500. 17:56circumstance listening to someone who
501. 17:58spreads violence and we applaud their
502. 18:00bravery and their peaceful protests sent
503. 18:03an email to their University
504. 18:05describing what I went through as
505. 18:08peaceful
506. 18:09and so I read this yeah yeah and I'm so
507. 18:11curious you know that's a real that's a
508. 18:14real backhanded compliment that era
509. 18:16sufficiently terrifying Force to have
510. 18:17oppressed you know 200 rampaging
511. 18:21Mobsters you know you really are quite
512. 18:24the monster if you were able to manage
513. 18:26that exactly well you're well you're
514. 18:28being barricaded in a room and and
515. 18:30essentially kidnapped and extorted so
516. 18:33you know that's definitely a compliment
517. 18:35totally the most backhanded possible way
518. 18:37yeah yeah well it's quite something to
519. 18:39watch this
520. 18:40um
521. 18:41to watch this uh
522. 18:43this offer of an extended sense of
523. 18:46victimization to the perpetrators
524. 18:49themselves you know had to undergo all
525. 18:51the trauma of having to listen to you
526. 18:53describe how you were betrayed by the
527. 18:55NCAA and by the Biden Administration and
528. 18:58by all the virtue signaling dimwits who
529. 19:00thought that forcing you and your
530. 19:02teammates to compete against a man was
531. 19:04actually acceptable and morally
532. 19:06justifiable
533. 19:07you know and so now we're in a situation
534. 19:09where your mere attempts to defend
535. 19:11yourself are regarded as some variant of
536. 19:14hate speech and provocation to violence
537. 19:16yeah that's perfectly goddamn delightful
538. 19:18that's a lovely way to think about it so
539. 19:21um yeah I don't suppose you heard from
540. 19:22anyone like Kamala Harris for example
541. 19:24complimenting you on her your bravery I
542. 19:26know she sent off a missive a while back
543. 19:28to Dylan Mulvaney you know letting him
544. 19:30know what a brave soul he was for doing
545. 19:32whatever the hell it is that he's doing
546. 19:34I don't suppose you heard anything from
547. 19:36from anybody up in the Democratic
548. 19:38authorities
549. 19:40you're bravery absolutely yeah yeah I
550. 19:42bet you haven't no yeah that is um
551. 19:46I'm not holding my breath