What Is Diabetes & What Does It Do to Your Body? | Raj Shamani Clips — Transcript
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- 0:01What is diabetes
- 0:03and why whoever is either pre-diabetic
- 0:08or diabetic is
- 0:10not able to manage it and maintain it
- 0:14properly because only 7.7% people out of
- 0:17100 are able to manage it. More than 92%
- 0:20people are failing in either reversing
- 0:22it or managing just their sugar, blood
- 0:24pressure and cholesterol.
- 0:26>> Yeah.
- 0:26>> Why?
- 0:28Okay, let me go to the first question.
- 0:30What is diabetes? And you can feel free
- 0:33to explain it through paper in charge if
- 0:34you want.
- 0:35>> I I'll do that. So, diabetes simply put
- 0:39is a condition where the blood sugar
- 0:41level is above normal. So, what people
- 0:45don't know is that everybody has sugar
- 0:47in the body. Sugar is like fuel. If you
- 0:50don't have sugar, you'll die.
- 0:51>> Your sugar goes down below particularly
- 0:53incompatible with life. Okay. So the
- 0:56normal sugar fasting
- 1:00it'll be say around 80
- 1:02>> 80 90 less than 100 definitely okay
- 1:05maybe 70 to 100 after food it may go to
- 1:08say 120
- 1:09>> m
- 1:10>> it won't go beyond that HB A1C we said
- 1:13will be less than 5.6 six m
- 1:16>> if these three are there you're not
- 1:17having diabetes you're not having
- 1:19pre-diabetes also
- 1:21if it starts going up fasting goes from
- 1:24100 to 125 the post post glucose not
- 1:28postprandial 140 to 199
- 1:32>> m
- 1:33>> then hbc 5.7 to 6.4 four then it's
- 1:37pre-diabetes
- 1:39then you got diabetes this will be more
- 1:42than 126 this will be more than 200 that
- 1:45will be more than 6.5 HBNC so this is
- 1:48diabetes this is pre-diabet this is
- 1:50normal so this is the how you classify
- 1:53now you may have one of this that means
- 1:56you got diabetes but it's not one
- 1:58disease about 50 60 different types of
- 2:02diabetes the common thing we know is
- 2:04type 1 type
- 2:06gestational diabetes and then another
- 2:08set of but there are I just now
- 2:10mentioned neonatal diabetes like this it
- 2:12goes on and on fibroalphic I mentioned
- 2:14there are so many many types of diabetes
- 2:16this only tells you you've got diabetes
- 2:19>> now we have to start classifying what
- 2:20type of diabetes it makes a big
- 2:22difference type one you go treat with
- 2:24tablet you you're going to kill that guy
- 2:26type two you go and start giving insulin
- 2:28unnecessarily they'll put on weight and
- 2:30so on so that is called precision
- 2:32diabetes you have to diagnose so you
- 2:33have got certain
- 2:35rules by which we see one simple thing
- 2:37is that age at all. So below 6 months
- 2:39it's neonatal diabetes. So look for
- 2:41neonatal diabetes. If all neonatal ruled
- 2:44out it still could be rarely type one at
- 2:46that age but it's usually type above
- 2:48that is likely to be type one. So we do
- 2:51simple test ceptide test that is insulin
- 2:53secretion. If it is zero finished it's
- 2:55type one. No other diabetes will go to
- 2:57zero. Okay.
- 2:59>> Now it's showing good ceptide. I told
- 3:01you little older 15 16 year old 18 year
- 3:04old he comes with aanthtosis strong
- 3:06family history obes type two
- 3:09not obese not needing insulin but strong
- 3:13family history there's a type of
- 3:14diabetes called modi maturity onset
- 3:16diabetes of yum modi in that there are
- 3:1814 types of modi okay so some of those
- 3:22modi types like neonatal diabetes can be
- 3:25treated with tablets okay just like
- 3:27neonatal diabetes they belong to that
- 3:29same class modi 1 modi they respond to
- 3:32that. So when you come to us it doesn't
- 3:35mean everybody will do genetic test for
- 3:38some I I may think he's got this FCPD
- 3:40I'll just take an X-ray stone finished
- 3:42diagnos stops there
- 3:44>> ceptide absent type one diagnos stops
- 3:47there obese man coming with this obvious
- 3:50type two you don't have to proceed for
- 3:51you don't keep on doing everything for
- 3:53everyone it's a waste of money waste of
- 3:55time but not fitting in everywhere then
- 3:57we start asking is this modi is this
- 4:00something else is it some genetic
- 4:02syndrome. Is it something else? Somebody
- 4:04will say hearing is affected. Oh, does
- 4:07your mother also have diabetes? Yes.
- 4:09Does she also have hearing problem? Yes.
- 4:10Then it's maternally inherited diabetes
- 4:13with deafness. Mid it's coming from
- 4:15mother maternally inherited diabetes
- 4:17with deafness. Finished. So deafness
- 4:19gives a clue. So like Sherlock Holmes
- 4:21you can easily with the experience say
- 4:23ah this is this this is that this for me
- 4:25as a patient walks in itself I can say
- 4:27this is the the rest of it is only to
- 4:29confirm.
- 4:29>> Okay. like shalom you can just pick it
- 4:31up just like with experience you can
- 4:32pick it up okay so that that's what
- 4:36makes this disease so interesting there
- 4:38are so many types in this and with
- 4:40knowledge you you learn over years and
- 4:43so on now once you know which type of
- 4:46diabetes you also know see in type two
- 4:48diabetes only you talk about reversal
- 4:50and all type one is not possible FCPD is
- 4:53not possible in Modi it's not possible
- 4:55it's genetic how can it type one how
- 4:57will all the cells are gone here stones
- 4:58are there how are going to reverse
- 5:00certain things we know you can GDM
- 5:02gestational diabetes they have diabetes
- 5:04during pregnancy the moment they deliver
- 5:05the diabetes will go away the day they
- 5:08deliver up to that they'll be diabetic
- 5:11they'll be on insulin or not the day
- 5:13they deliver glucose will drop because
- 5:14baby's out baby's producing it
- 5:17>> that'll go but they may get it back
- 5:19within 5 years so what do we do now we
- 5:22start with them don't put on weight
- 5:24don't do this you can prevent diabetes
- 5:26so you have to focus on that in a
- 5:28different I was reading up something
- 5:30about you that Stanford
- 5:32>> Yeah.
- 5:32>> has put you in top 2% scientist of the
- 5:34world.
- 5:35>> Yeah.
- 5:35>> Right.
- 5:36>> And you have said something about
- 5:38Indians. This is shocking
- 5:39>> that if an Indian gets diagnosis of
- 5:44pre-diabetes.
- 5:45>> Yeah.
- 5:45>> Within 8 years there's 40% chance that
- 5:48they'll develop full diabetes.
- 5:50>> Even higher.
- 5:52>> Why specifically Indians? like what is
- 5:54there about Indians that we are building
- 5:56and developing diabetes faster than any
- 5:58other population on earth.
- 6:00>> So partly it's genetic. So through
- 6:04centuries of genes coming down the pool.
- 6:09So we have had um
- 6:12unangous marriages. It's may not be so
- 6:14much in the north but in the south and
- 6:16all we get a lot marrying your cousin,
- 6:18marrying your uncle all that is uh very
- 6:21common. So the gene gets multiplied. So
- 6:24that is one thing. Second thing is that
- 6:27intrauterine itself and the mother is uh
- 6:31malnourished and thin. The baby is also
- 6:35thin and therefore already born with a
- 6:37smaller pancreas. The amount of beta
- 6:40cells are very much reduced and so
- 6:44they're destined to get diabetes. On top
- 6:47of that, what brings out all the insulin
- 6:49from the pancreas is your carbohydrate.
- 6:53We consume too much of carbs,
- 6:55>> whether it's rice or wheat or whatever.
- 6:59And that pulls out the little insulin
- 7:01you have also gets pulled out very fast
- 7:04and to burn it, you have to do a lot of
- 7:06exercise. We really don't do much
- 7:09exercise. So all this put together
- 7:11becomes a deadly uh combination to push
- 7:14you into pre-diabetes and then into
- 7:16>> diabetes. You said first let's talk
- 7:18about all four topics individually.
- 7:20First you said
- 7:22>> the marriages.
- 7:23>> Yeah. So if you what happens like when
- 7:26you mar somebody from the same family or
- 7:29same
- 7:29>> let us say that there are these families
- 7:32which have the gene for diabetes and
- 7:35let's say there's another set of
- 7:38families where there's no gene nobody in
- 7:40that family has diabetes at all.
- 7:43>> If this family marries into that family
- 7:46the gene is going to get diluted
- 7:49>> because there's no gene here at all.
- 7:50>> There is a gene here. Now within this if
- 7:53you scap keep marrying within that the
- 7:55gene will get multiplied multiplied
- 7:56multiplied multiplied they marry their
- 7:59uncle also has a gene you also have the
- 8:01gene okay their kids will have the gene
- 8:04then they're going to marry another
- 8:05cousin so again the gene will get
- 8:06multiplied if you keep doing this for
- 8:08generations then they you're already
- 8:11filled with those genes
- 8:13>> to get heart disease and to get diabetes
- 8:15and so on so that's one thing then the
- 8:18diet also doesn't help because so much
- 8:20of carbs we take that we are pulling out
- 8:23all the insulin. So coming back to the
- 8:26marriage part do you think is it
- 8:29>> from purely just medical point of view
- 8:32from the health from the point of view
- 8:33of health of your offsprings of your
- 8:35kids
- 8:36>> should you not marry inside the family
- 8:38>> should not at all
- 8:39>> never
- 8:39>> it's much healthier to at least not at
- 8:42the first cousin level or in Tamil Nad
- 8:45they actually marry their own uncle
- 8:47mother's brother is the first uh uh he
- 8:51has a right
- 8:52>> he has a right actually to to marry.
- 8:56Suppose Yeah. Suppose my uh sister was
- 9:00there
- 9:01>> and my mother had a brother. Uh the
- 9:04first he should say no before she can
- 9:07marry someone else. That has been this
- 9:09is to keep
- 9:10>> wait
- 9:14mother's brother.
- 9:15>> Yeah. Mother's brother. Uncle
- 9:17>> has uncle has the first right to
- 9:20>> to marry the mother's child
- 9:23>> first. He has to say no.
- 9:24>> Yeah, it it'll actually happen there.
- 9:28But if he's not interested and
- 9:30everything,
- 9:30>> it won't be too much. No, see marry
- 9:33young. Yeah. Or maybe younger brother.
- 9:35See, suppose mother itself used to marry
- 9:37at 19, 20.
- 9:40>> Then her her brother maybe five or six
- 9:42years younger uh to her, maybe even 10
- 9:45those times a large family. So maybe
- 9:47even 10 years younger uh uh to her. And
- 9:51so her when her daughter becomes 18 20
- 9:54he'll be 25 28 something and so the
- 9:58first we we say that that's an automatic
- 10:01choice to get it used to be done like
- 10:03that for several reasons number one it's
- 10:05the same cast so you don't have to go
- 10:07outside the cast the same family you
- 10:09know the family
- 10:11>> third is the wealth is kept within the
- 10:12family
- 10:14>> suppose a very rich family within the
- 10:16family itself the wealth goes
- 10:18>> somebody else comes in and then the
- 10:19wealth goes off to the thing you That's
- 10:21how it was. It's it's decreasing now.
- 10:23It's not the same anymore, but that's
- 10:26how it used to be.
- 10:27>> So, that has probably caused
- 10:28>> and in every like there's a lot of casts
- 10:31and religions where this shape and form
- 10:33in different ways is is seen
- 10:35>> where you marry your family members,
- 10:38right?
- 10:39>> Marrying cousins is very common. See,
- 10:41uncle is less common but cousins is very
- 10:44common.
- 10:45>> So,
- 10:46>> okay. So, that's the first reason. That
- 10:48is one. So because if one sort of gene
- 10:50then they start dominating and then
- 10:52eventually over the years you start
- 10:54developing similar kind of diseases.
- 10:56That's one. Second you said if mother is
- 11:00malnourished
- 11:02>> the child is also thinner
- 11:03>> thinner
- 11:04>> and then the thin. So isn't diabetes for
- 11:08people who are obese? Later on they'll
- 11:10catch up. So when the child is born,
- 11:14>> it's born with a smaller pancreas with a
- 11:16limited capacity to produce insulin
- 11:18because didn't get enough nutrition. So
- 11:21the child is born small. Okay? With a
- 11:25smaller pancreas. Now what happens of
- 11:28course they remain led they may not get
- 11:30it but what happens is later on they'll
- 11:31put on weight. No. So when they put on
- 11:34weight a normal pancreas person with a
- 11:37normal pancreas can adjust to that load
- 11:40of that extra fat extra here is already
- 11:43born with limited capacity.
- 11:45>> So now when you put on weight you you
- 11:48are not the it's not able to meet the
- 11:50demand demand supply problem. So you're
- 11:52telling me that if someone like me who
- 11:55is probably in his 20s
- 11:58is thin and looks fit at least from the
- 12:01outside
- 12:02>> just because probably my mother was
- 12:05malnourished during her times.
- 12:07>> Yeah.
- 12:07>> I have equal amount of risk as much as
- 12:10>> even higher risk probably than somebody
- 12:12whose mother was not malnourished and
- 12:16when the child was born was not
- 12:18malnourished but normal. your risk is
- 12:20already higher. But by taking enough
- 12:23precautions, by being very active and
- 12:25not putting on weight and not becoming
- 12:27obese, you can postpone it to a large
- 12:30extent. If now you become obese also
- 12:33already you're born with a limited
- 12:35capacity. Now you put on weight also
- 12:38which is the driver, you will succumb to
- 12:40diabetes much faster. You will develop
- 12:42diabetes much faster than somebody
- 12:44>> who's not that. The impact of diabetes,
- 12:46sugar, glucose on liver, kidney, eye,
- 12:50brain, bunch of things. You just use
- 12:51these words.
- 12:53>> Explain me organ by organ. I'm going to
- 12:54put organs here.
- 12:55>> Sure.
- 12:56>> And you tell me exactly
- 12:58>> like I'll give you a checklist and where
- 13:00does sugar attack first. Let's start
- 13:02with the eye.
- 13:03>> So when you see the eye, you'll be
- 13:06seeing it like this. Okay, we have a
- 13:09thin film
- 13:10>> and then just behind that we have the
- 13:13the pupil through which the light
- 13:15enters. You can see that round thing and
- 13:18then you have the iris. Then behind that
- 13:21you have the lens.
- 13:23>> Okay.
- 13:23>> Okay.
- 13:24>> It's there in all our eyes.
- 13:25>> All our just behind there is the lens
- 13:28and it is this lens which focuses the
- 13:32image. See the light is going from there
- 13:35through the lens and at the back portion
- 13:39there that is called as a retina.
- 13:41>> Okay, that's a retina the back portion.
- 13:43So you have a front portion, a middle
- 13:45portion, then you get a back portion
- 13:47there. So when the light goes in there,
- 13:50it has to converge to a point there and
- 13:53then you'll be able to focus clearly.
- 13:56Now what will happen is if this lens
- 13:58becomes thicker or thinner you'll get
- 14:02long sight or short sight. So before 40
- 14:04years mostly it's myopia long distance
- 14:06you cannot read.
- 14:07>> After 40 reading will become a problem.
- 14:10>> Sure.
- 14:10>> So yeah so that's called long sight. The
- 14:12other one is called short sight. Myopia
- 14:14hypometropia. So all that is in the
- 14:16lens. The same lens. So those changes
- 14:19can also come due to diabetes because
- 14:21more water in the lens less water in the
- 14:23lens. If you have very high sugar,
- 14:25you're feeling thirsty. That means
- 14:27there's no water in the body. There's no
- 14:28water in the lens also. Lens will
- 14:30shrink. So your focus and all will go
- 14:31and you won't be blurred vision. Next
- 14:34stage which is very common in diabetes
- 14:37is catact. So catact is normally a lens
- 14:40will be like this. You can see through.
- 14:42Okay. Now you can get different types of
- 14:46catact. Now in this only the central
- 14:49portion is so through the side you can
- 14:51see this portion you cannot see
- 14:53properly. Okay. Then you can get these
- 14:56type of thing like a star. It is this is
- 14:58a typical diabetic kind of a catact like
- 15:00a star stellar kind of a what does it
- 15:02mean catact it these are catacts which
- 15:05is forming but uh there is still some
- 15:08portion left. This particular shape if
- 15:10you see is likely to be diabetes. Then
- 15:12you got complete
- 15:15blockage like this. Now it's become
- 15:18opaque.
- 15:19>> This is catact. So once it has come like
- 15:22this, you have to operate. So what they
- 15:25do is they'll remove the lens and put
- 15:28another lens in. I've had both my eyes
- 15:30operated for catact. Within a week I got
- 15:32both uh done. It's a 5 10 minute
- 15:35procedure for a good surgeon. Make a
- 15:37small link. They just pull out that lens
- 15:39and there's a small lens they push it
- 15:41in. That's it. Finished over. then it it
- 15:43just stays and the new lens then can be
- 15:46there for long time 10 20 years more
- 15:50also. So, so that is catact that also is
- 15:53accelerated in diabetes when you have
- 15:54very high sugar the catact comes
- 15:56earlier. If normally catact comes at 60
- 15:5965 in diabetic people 505 it's come
- 16:02because the high sugar driving the
- 16:04catact metabolism
- 16:06>> when the sugar increases the first thing
- 16:08it does is start forming these cracks.
- 16:11Uh it's not cracks it is um transparent
- 16:15thing becoming opaque.
- 16:17It's the sugar inside sorbital we call
- 16:20it. It's again related to sugar. So that
- 16:22sugar metabolism changes and then the
- 16:26this become start becoming opaque. So
- 16:28that's called catact. That's also a
- 16:30simple thing. You won't lose your
- 16:32vision. You can remove the catact and
- 16:34bring even non-diabetics also to us.
- 16:36What happens in really in diabetic
- 16:39people is retinopathy. Diabetic
- 16:42retinopathy.
- 16:43>> Retinopathy means inflammation or
- 16:46disease. Retinopathy mean retina getting
- 16:49affected. So this is the retina. So that
- 16:51portion is the retina. You can see the
- 16:53blood vessels there. When you have
- 16:56uncontrolled diabetes,
- 16:58these blood vessels start getting
- 17:01affected.
- 17:02>> First small sack like thing will come.
- 17:05We call it as microanurism. Small sack
- 17:07will form. Then they'll start leaking.
- 17:11So you'll find when you do a ex see what
- 17:13the doctor will do, retinal specialist
- 17:15will do. They'll put in drops and this
- 17:18pupil which is small will become bigger.
- 17:20So you can see what you're seeing at the
- 17:22back you can actually the whole retina
- 17:25you can then see without any surgery and
- 17:27you can just see the whole retina.
- 17:29Normally all the normal blood vessels
- 17:31you can see but in diabetic retinopathy
- 17:34what happens is first of all the small
- 17:36circular thing will form micronurism we
- 17:38call it then it'll start leaking then
- 17:41small hemorrhages will start blood clots
- 17:43small blood clot then because it is not
- 17:47getting enough oxygen
- 17:49is not efficiently flowing new vessels
- 17:52will try to form so instead of these
- 17:55small vessels from there what will
- 17:58happen is that if the vessel is like
- 18:02this that vessel will form new vessels.
- 18:06We actually call it as new vessels neo
- 18:08vascularization.
- 18:10>> This is original one. This is a new one.
- 18:12These new ones are very thin.
- 18:14>> Okay. It'll easily burst. So if it
- 18:16bursts what happens is the whole retina
- 18:19will get filled with blood and overnight
- 18:22you can go blind.
- 18:24So it'll just like that leak
- 18:27>> and the whole purely because of glucose
- 18:29mismanagement in your body
- 18:30>> not controlled
- 18:32>> diabetes not yeah uncontrolled diabetes
- 18:34>> where sometimes sugar is going super up
- 18:36or super down this
- 18:38>> remaining high
- 18:40>> okay more
- 18:40>> not not due to the fluctuation but
- 18:42because sugar is continuously kept high
- 18:44that's where this concept of hbc test
- 18:47comes this 3 months average test hbc
- 18:50study after study done 10 20 years ago
- 18:53have shown see the norm Normal HBNC is
- 18:555.6
- 18:56>> or below. 5.6 to about 6.4 is called
- 19:00pre-diabetes. 6.5 and above is diabetic.
- 19:03Similarly, you got for the glucose.
- 19:04Fasting above 126 is diabetic. In a GTT
- 19:072our value about 200 is called diabetic.
- 19:10In a random blood sugar done at any time
- 19:12more than 200, it is diabetic. Many
- 19:14people are saying don't treat diabetes.
- 19:15It's normal to have high sugar. So, age
- 19:17old age everybody will have little
- 19:19diabetes. That's where all these myths
- 19:21are, you know, are demystified. When you
- 19:24do these studies, what they found was up
- 19:27to seven HP and 5.5 5.6 to around 7 is a
- 19:32safe limit.
- 19:33>> M
- 19:33>> you don't develop I kidney nerve
- 19:36complications
- 19:36>> up to 5.7
- 19:38>> up to seven
- 19:39>> up to seven from 5.5
- 19:41>> 5.5 5.6 6 is normal. 5.7
- 19:45to 7
- 19:46>> okay
- 19:46>> that range if a diabetic is able to
- 19:49maintain can be 6 6.2 2 6.3 6.5 up to 7
- 19:54there is no risk of developing I kidney
- 19:56nerve complications
- 19:59as it goes above from 7 to 8 8 to 9 that
- 20:031%
- 20:05increases your risk of developing eye
- 20:08kidney nerve complication by 25%.
- 20:12So 7 to 8 25% risk 8 to 9 50% risk 9 to
- 20:1710 75% risk about 10 100% risk of
- 20:22developing complication. So any 1%
- 20:26lowering also reduces your risk by 25%.
- 20:29And all we're trying to do is to keep
- 20:31that A1C below 7.
- 20:33>> That's our entire goal of treatment. We
- 20:36call it as a ABC. Actually A is A1C
- 20:40below 7%. B is blood pressure. You have
- 20:43to keep it at whatever is normal for
- 20:44your age at least below 140 90
- 20:47preferably 130 80.
- 20:49>> C is cholesterol. The bad cholesterol is
- 20:52LDL cholesterol. Should be below 100
- 20:54below 70 is good. Even below 50 is even
- 20:57better. But at least below 100 to start
- 20:59with for the whole population you want
- 21:01to bring everybody 50 and all may be
- 21:02difficult but if it's possible then you
- 21:04bring that. D is discipline, diet,
- 21:08exercise, sleeping, this, that, all
- 21:09that. If you follow this A alone, you
- 21:14can prevent eye complication. Nobody
- 21:15will develop diabetic retnopathy.
- 21:18There'll be no blindness due to
- 21:19diabetic. Same thing for kidney.
- 21:22>> Same thing for nerves, neuropathy,
- 21:24burning feet and numbness of feet. These
- 21:27three can be eliminated if you just keep
- 21:28that A1C below 7. Nothing more you have
- 21:31to do. Okay? If you want to prevent
- 21:33heart attacks, strokes, gangrine of the
- 21:37feet, then B and C also have to keep
- 21:39blood pressure also under control,
- 21:41cholesterol also under control. D also
- 21:43includes no smoking and all that cuz you
- 21:45smoke then all gone. So if this A B C D
- 21:48you do, I have been telling year after
- 21:52year on World Diabetes I've been saying
- 21:55we should have a complicationsfree
- 21:57India. People ask me can you have a
- 22:00diabetes free India? I say it's
- 22:03difficult.
- 22:05>> It's difficult because age is a
- 22:07non-modifiable risk factor. As you grow
- 22:09older you'll get little diabetes. Okay.
- 22:12Can you completely prevent graying of
- 22:13hair? May can you completely prevent
- 22:16balding? It may not be possible.
- 22:18>> Okay.
- 22:19>> But it doesn't matter if you get little
- 22:20diabetes as long as you don't suffer
- 22:22it's okay. So I keep telling people
- 22:24don't worry about diabetes free world.
- 22:27we'll worry about a diabetes
- 22:30complications free world that is
- 22:32possible and I want to see it in my
- 22:34lifetime and for that I'm saying ABCD
- 22:39that's it get your A1C down keep your
- 22:42blood pressure down keep your
- 22:43cholesterol under control and follow
- 22:44some discipline diet exercise no smoking
- 22:47get to sleep on time take your medicines
- 22:49go for a checkup finished we will you
- 22:52may say is this rhetoric or you have
- 22:55actually done it I have done it. In
- 22:592013,
- 23:00we showed 50 years survival of type 2
- 23:03diabetic patients. 50-0.
- 23:06Okay. I had about 300 400 patients who
- 23:09finished 40 years and some who finished
- 23:1250. Now some finished 60 65 years with
- 23:15type 2 diabetes. So the American
- 23:17diabetation gave me the Harold Rifken
- 23:19Award as the first to show in the world
- 23:2250 years survival of type two diabetic
- 23:24patients. Partly because I was lucky
- 23:27because their diabetes itself comes only
- 23:29at 50 60. For them to get 50 60 they
- 23:32should all 110 years old.
- 23:34>> Yeah.
- 23:34>> For us we get it 20 30. So to get 50
- 23:36years survival when you're 70 years old
- 23:38you can get 50 years survival. So that
- 23:39way we're little lucky that people get
- 23:42it at a younger age. So they able to
- 23:43show 50 years but nobody had shown it.
- 23:45So they gave me the one of the highest
- 23:47awards in American deputization is the
- 23:48Harold Riiffken Award. So they gave me
- 23:50that. But the point is not the award.
- 23:52Point is that people can live for 50
- 23:54years without. Then they said you only
- 23:56showed 50 years survival. You didn't
- 23:58show people living up to 90 100. So I
- 24:00said that's my next project. So we
- 24:02collected people who have finished 90
- 24:05years 95 years 100 years with diabetes
- 24:09large series now 102 years old diabetic
- 24:1350 years 60 years nothing. They walk in
- 24:16they they're able to one guy wrote a
- 24:18book at the age of 97.
- 24:21Okay, one man when I called all these uh
- 24:2590 year old people for a uh for a press
- 24:28conference and to show the world that
- 24:29it's possible, the chief guest of 101
- 24:31years old,
- 24:32>> but here's my chief guest.
- 24:34>> But tell me if you said a keep your B1 C
- 24:41under control,
- 24:42>> blood pressure under control,
- 24:44cholesterol under control, do diet,
- 24:46exercise, sleep, all of that under
- 24:48control. When all of it is lifestyle
- 24:51management, why do I need a doctor like
- 24:52you to tell you that?
- 25:00How do you know all that? You know your
- 25:02blood pressure. You know what
- 25:03cholesterol to do. You know how to bring
- 25:05it down. You know all the glucose. You
- 25:07know it took me 50 years to learn all
- 25:09that.
- 25:14The lifestyle part is one. The ABC is
- 25:16done by the doctor. the D only you're
- 25:18doing okay the ABC where to give the
- 25:20medicine how to how to lower it how much
- 25:22to lower should I bring the A1C to seven
- 25:24or to six for you which is safer for you
- 25:27those things I I decide no based on your
- 25:29condition suppose your heart is already
- 25:31little at risk now if I go and push your
- 25:34A1C below I can produce heart attack for
- 25:36you
- 25:36>> I can produce you know some ariththmia
- 25:38for you and push you into
- 25:40>> it's not just lifestyle management
- 25:42>> lifestyle is important beyond that there
- 25:45it's another thing which we showed code
- 25:47regular checkup is also very important.
- 25:50Okay.
- 25:50>> But tell me if I if I do regular checkup
- 25:53and I am following discipline
- 25:56>> walking every day, sleeping on time,
- 25:58doing weights to do some building some
- 26:00muscles, eating greens, eating proteins,
- 26:03doing everything that you just suggest.
- 26:04>> Yeah.
- 26:05>> Do I still need a doctor?
- 26:06>> You still need a doctor and you still
- 26:07need a checkup. I'll tell you why.
- 26:09Because because of your age, things may
- 26:13go wrong. Okay. I'll show. Okay. Now if
- 26:17you got HB let's say 7 I want the HBNC
- 26:21at 7.
- 26:22>> Okay. Now you have come to me
- 26:25>> and your HBNC has come there.
- 26:28>> This is 2026.
- 26:31I've told you HBNC is 6.5. Now you're
- 26:34saying
- 26:35>> I don't need a doctor now. I have
- 26:36reached 6.5. He told me below 7.
- 26:39>> I'm not I don't need a doctor.
- 26:41>> Now we talked about headonic. We talked
- 26:43about things slowly changing in the
- 26:45body. There are also biochemical change
- 26:46will occur due to age, due to so many
- 26:48other factors. Things can change. Now my
- 26:52next checkup I'm saying is before 2027
- 26:57you come once more to me after 6 months
- 26:59I'm telling but you are saying no I
- 27:00won't come. I don't this guy want to
- 27:02make money is calling me I'm not coming.
- 27:04What will happen is
- 27:06>> it'll go there. No symptoms asymptomatic
- 27:10disease and you're saying I'm fine
- 27:13because I don't feel
- 27:14>> yeah because you don't check HP and say
- 27:15anyway it'll be some sugar ah that's
- 27:17because you know I went for a marriage
- 27:18last week so everything you'll have an
- 27:20excuse also then it'll go there
- 27:23okay then it'll go there then it'll go
- 27:28there and one day you'll say doc it's 10
- 27:31now
- 27:33and of course I don't want to tell you I
- 27:34told you so but I have I told you so
- 27:37Because if you only come here, I'd have
- 27:40brought it down.
- 27:41>> Mhm.
- 27:41>> Then again you go again I bring it down.
- 27:43Again I bring it down. So always your
- 27:46HBNC is okay. Other is going up up up.
- 27:49This happens also with people who try
- 27:51reversal things you know.
- 27:54>> And what happens if I go above?
- 27:57>> Yeah. Because your every every 1% I'm
- 28:00telling you that your risk of developing
- 28:03eye kidney nerve complication from 7 to
- 28:068 when it has gone already it is 25%
- 28:10extra risk. It's gone to 9 it is 50%.
- 28:14It's gone to 10 it is 75%. It's gone
- 28:17about 10 is 100% risk. You're now going
- 28:19at 100% risk of developing kidney. Next
- 28:22time you come here I'll check your
- 28:25kidney and say gosh you started leaking
- 28:28protein
- 28:29finished sometimes is not reversible
- 28:33after that then what I'll be trying to
- 28:35do is how to prevent diialysis for you
- 28:38that'll be my next aim not to bring all
- 28:40this down my next aim is how long can I
- 28:42push him without him undergoing
- 28:45diialysis or transplant because once a
- 28:48creatin goes to a certain point there
- 28:50only two things either diialysis
- 28:51transplantation or death finished only
- 28:53three things that are possible if you
- 28:55don't do these two you'll die and how
- 28:58many transplant can you do in India
- 29:00there are 101 million people with
- 29:02diabetes assuming 20% will develop
- 29:05complications 80% will not 20% 20
- 29:08million people 20 million kidneys you're
- 29:11doing 10,000 transplants in a year
- 29:14whatever transplant you do it's only
- 29:1610,000 in India 20 million where are you
- 29:19going to do so you have to prevent to
- 29:22prevent its ABC D. For that you have to
- 29:24come only if you come only we'll bring
- 29:27this A and A and only A has come now B C
- 29:30also I'll take care when you come A also
- 29:32I'll check check B also I'll check C
- 29:34also I'll check then I'll talk to you
- 29:35about D I'll further reinforce saying
- 29:38hey this okay now next 6 months let's be
- 29:41a little more careful I motivated you
- 29:44I'll give you an example okay how how
- 29:46this works from the other side now
- 29:49you're the doctor and I am sitting on
- 29:50this side
- 29:52>> when I got married. My wife used to tell
- 29:55me
- 29:55>> why are you brushing your teeth only
- 29:57once?
- 29:58>> You should do once more at night. What?
- 30:00Yeah. Morning anyway you're going to get
- 30:02up and brush. So why should I brush at
- 30:04night? Okay. So I never did. Then I had
- 30:06some small dental problem and I went to
- 30:09my dental surgeon. Um and um so she told
- 30:14me you know Dr. on
- 30:17from today till you die, you're going to
- 30:21brush twice a day. Okay? If you come
- 30:24back at 1:00 a.m. from somewhere flight
- 30:28or something, you come, you'll brush and
- 30:29then go to bed. Okay? Since the time she
- 30:33told me till today, I've not changed.
- 30:35I've done it. So I go back home and then
- 30:38I told my wife, you know, this doctor
- 30:40told me that I have to brush my teeth
- 30:43twice a day, so I'm doing it. What did I
- 30:45tell you? I told you this years ago. I
- 30:49said, that's the difference. When my
- 30:51dental surgeon tells me, I think, no,
- 30:53your wife tells me I don't listen.
- 30:54You're not my dental surgeon. What do my
- 30:56dental surgeon tell me? I listen. So
- 30:58there is a certain power and that power
- 31:01is very powerful.
- 31:03>> Tell me about kidney. You said you you
- 31:05spoke about kidney because
- 31:07>> it's like by the time people see bubbles
- 31:09in their urine
- 31:10>> kidney is already 50% damaged right
- 31:13>> no that's not true actually the bubble
- 31:15actually is not so I'll show you the
- 31:17kidney so this is a kidney it's a kidney
- 31:20shape they call kidney bean is called
- 31:22that because it's like a kidney shaped
- 31:24thing this is the adrenal gland actually
- 31:26so you have the artery and the vein and
- 31:27this is the urine tube the urethra
- 31:29through which it goes and then if you
- 31:31open up uh the kidney
- 31:34You can see the the collecting tubules
- 31:37and the thing. If you put this under the
- 31:40microscope, if you take a bit of that,
- 31:42you do a biopsy or if you want to do a
- 31:44biopsy, we need not don't need to do it
- 31:47or thing. If you take that, these are
- 31:49what are called as nephrons. And these
- 31:52nephrons,
- 31:53>> these red yellow.
- 31:54>> Yeah. I mean, they're just pictureing
- 31:56blood vessels and so on. But if you the
- 32:00these are too big to see. But if you
- 32:02take you know small tissue and then see
- 32:06it under the microscope then you can see
- 32:10uh what is called as
- 32:12a basement membrane. Okay. This is
- 32:15called as a basement membrane. And this
- 32:18is a normal thickness of the basement
- 32:20membrane let us say. Okay.
- 32:21>> You have uncontrolled diabetes. What
- 32:23happens is this thickness of the so it's
- 32:25through the basement membrane that the
- 32:27blood circulation blood will come and
- 32:29then go back and all that. So the first
- 32:32thing that will happen due to diabetes
- 32:33is the basement membrane will get
- 32:35thickened now. Okay. Once it gets
- 32:39thickened
- 32:40so that's called basement membrane. So
- 32:42basement membrane is thickened. Once
- 32:44basin membrane is thickened it's also
- 32:46become porous and so there are small
- 32:48small holes through that through that
- 32:51albamin will start leaking.
- 32:53So normally if you measure how much
- 32:56albamin is there in the urine it's very
- 32:57small quantity some 4 mg 5 mig that's
- 33:00called normal
- 33:02>> okay near zero or very very small then
- 33:05slowly it'll become above 30
- 33:0930 microgram minute or 30 mg you can
- 33:11call it we call it as micro albaminora
- 33:15>> that is the first stage of diabetic
- 33:18kidney disease before the result do a
- 33:20biopsy you can see thickening of this
- 33:23basement membrane and other changes
- 33:25there gomealosclerosis we call it. Now
- 33:28the first thing that will happen is
- 33:29small quantities of protein will start
- 33:32leaking alamin that's called microaloria
- 33:3430 to 300 we call it as microalinoria if
- 33:38it goes above 300 it's macro albalinoria
- 33:42after that reversal becomes difficult at
- 33:46this stage micro albinoria there are
- 33:48tablets you give it it'll become normal
- 33:51kidney itself will become normal blood
- 33:52pressure will start blood pressure will
- 33:54start going up by the time the kidney
- 33:55start blood pressure blood pressure will
- 33:57drop everything will become normal.
- 33:59Sugar is normal. HBNC has come down. You
- 34:01give these tablets everything normal.
- 34:03Kidneys become normal once it goes to
- 34:05macromorary above 300, 400, 500, 1,000,
- 34:082,000. Almost difficult to reverse it
- 34:12back at that stage. So this can be stage
- 34:15zero, stage 1, stage two, whatever you
- 34:17want to call. Stage three,
- 34:20creatinin is now beginning to go up to
- 34:22this creatin serum. creatin 8.9 it's
- 34:26normal
- 34:28>> once it process one the kidney is going
- 34:30in for failure now okay one 1.5 1.6 six
- 34:34it's going up we measure it in another
- 34:36form from that creatin there's a formula
- 34:38eGFR estimated GFR
- 34:41>> normally it will be around 90 then
- 34:43become 60 50
- 34:47it's coming down creatin become 2 3 4 as
- 34:51it goes higher and higher going nearer
- 34:53and nearer diialysis and transplantation
- 34:55okay now creatin has become 8 10 your
- 35:00eGFR has become 10 15
- 35:03Now it's called the last stage of
- 35:05kidney. It's called endstage renal
- 35:07disease. ESRD endstage renal disease.
- 35:10That stage there's nothing you can do.
- 35:12If you control diabetes now also control
- 35:15blood pressure now you can give all the
- 35:17medicines you want. It's a relentlessly
- 35:20progressive condition.
- 35:22So the more or less I'm not frightening
- 35:24people by saying that but once you reach
- 35:26that stage nothing you can do. I also
- 35:29you get this small small spot then it
- 35:31starts bleeding inside then the whole
- 35:32eye the whole vision can go can go blind
- 35:35due to then you try to suck out the
- 35:37blood try to do some major surgery
- 35:39vitrectomy this that you may get 50% of
- 35:42vision back okay they are all eminently
- 35:46preventable I'm saying we got 50 people
- 35:48without any eye trouble that's why I'm
- 35:50saying diabetes complicated free world
- 35:52I'm talking up to that okay so that is
- 35:54preventable early stages also it is
- 35:57still reversible
- 35:58So the point of no return
- 36:00>> beyond that next stage next stage next
- 36:02stage now you come you take foot first
- 36:06some numbness tingling in the foot okay
- 36:09you give medicine become okay control di
- 36:11okay then it starts burning the whole
- 36:13night you're not sleeping then some
- 36:16callus forms and then the ulcer forms
- 36:18and then small gangrine starts forming
- 36:22now you have to remove the toe you
- 36:23develop gangrine gang means death
- 36:26>> death of tissue has occurred How can you
- 36:27keep a dead foot? I mean toe it'll
- 36:30infect the next one also. Next toe will
- 36:32go. Next toe will go. Next toe will go.
- 36:33So then you start removing one toe. Then
- 36:36if there's good blood circulation it'll
- 36:37heal. There's no good blood circulation
- 36:39that also won't heal. Then you'll end up
- 36:41with a below knee amputation above knee
- 36:43amputation. Those are the things which
- 36:46in the past we used to see but
- 36:48unfortunately even today it's happening.
- 36:50They'll be from a village. They won't
- 36:52have proper advice. They'll go to some
- 36:54native healer. He'll say don't go to all
- 36:56these alopath fellows. I will cure you.
- 36:58They will give some treatment. They will
- 37:00put something a band-aid something.
- 37:02They'll put some herbs something they'll
- 37:03put that will worsen it that will you
- 37:05know infect the foot also won't be clean
- 37:08also. They'll infect the foot and
- 37:09they'll come the bad thing. Some say my
- 37:11leg somehow save my leg.
- 37:13>> Everything is possible up to a certain
- 37:15point. Beyond a certain point diabetes
- 37:19can be an absolute killer. But what is
- 37:21in in simple words what is there in a
- 37:24diabetic person that one small wound
- 37:28>> doesn't heal
- 37:29>> doesn't heal it takes them years months
- 37:31years probably and the same thing like
- 37:34some wounds then then start becoming in
- 37:36>> bigger and bigger
- 37:36>> bigger and bigger that at one point they
- 37:38have to like probably cut off
- 37:39>> cut off yeah it will become black and
- 37:42become gang then dead the the toe is
- 37:45dead you can't keep a dead toe you have
- 37:47to remove it so then it will go to the
- 37:49next toe
- 37:50>> to one small cut what happens? So two or
- 37:52three things. One is glucose. Once you
- 37:55have glucose in the skin, glucose is a
- 37:58very good source for bacteria to grow.
- 38:00See what how do we do cultures in the
- 38:02lab. We put some glucose and then allow
- 38:05the bacteria to grow. That's how we see
- 38:06whether there's bacteria there or not.
- 38:08Here you got a natural like culture lab.
- 38:10You got in your leg itself. You got so
- 38:12much of glucose there. It'll keep
- 38:14getting uh more and more the bacteria
- 38:16will grow. That's number one. Number
- 38:18two, neuropathy. Okay,
- 38:21>> the nerve is affected because a nerve is
- 38:24affected the when you walk also you're
- 38:27not walking lightly. You know, you're
- 38:29putting pressure because you're not
- 38:31feeling the the surface. So, you're
- 38:33putting more and more pressure. So, more
- 38:35and more damage will occur. The chance
- 38:37of it breaking a bone is very easy. The
- 38:39bone's also a little weak because of all
- 38:42the calcium is gone from the bone. So,
- 38:43very easily. Deadly one. The third one
- 38:46most deadly one is blood circulation
- 38:48problem. Even this neuropathy infection
- 38:51you can give antibiotic you can do
- 38:53something remove one toe let out the pus
- 38:56you can just cut it let out all the puss
- 38:58it'll heal. Even the big wound is there
- 39:00you can just bring a big incision let
- 39:02out all the puss it'll heal. The deadly
- 39:04one is es is eskeeia. If you don't have
- 39:07blood circulation without blood nothing
- 39:10will enter there. Whatever nutrient you
- 39:12give, whatever antibiotic you give,
- 39:15whatever you go, the blood has to go
- 39:16there and there's no blood. It's
- 39:18blocked. Then what do you do? Of course,
- 39:21you can try to do a bypass or you can do
- 39:23a stenting and open up the vessel and
- 39:26try to do and so on. It may work
- 39:29sometimes. Sometimes even that doesn't
- 39:31work or you cannot if the
- 39:32>> So why does the blood's not going there?
- 39:34>> Because the blood is blocked. The
- 39:36arteries are blocked just like the heart
- 39:38arteries are blocked. Like the stroke
- 39:39that you get there, the arteries are
- 39:42blocked due to cholesterol, due to
- 39:43uncontrolled diabetes, due to
- 39:45inflammation, the vessels are blocked.
- 39:47If it's a big vessel going from the
- 39:49thigh, you can operate it and just open
- 39:51it up and the whole blood will then go.
- 39:53It's like a highle block.
- 39:56>> Suppose a lowle block, the vessels are
- 39:58so small and multiple, where are you
- 40:01going to go and open it? Thank you so
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