What IS Bronchopulmonary Dysplasia - (Neonatal Chronic Lung Disease)?? BPD Part 1 - Tala Talks NICU — Transcript
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- 0:18today as many of you have already
- 0:20requested we are going to go over BPD or
- 0:23Bronco pulmonary
- 0:25dysplasia and because we're trying not
- 0:27to make these videos too long again we
- 0:30decided to divide this video into two
- 0:32different parts so today we're going to
- 0:34go over one what is BPD two how do you
- 0:39diagnose BPD and three what causes BPD
- 0:43in the next video we'll go over four how
- 0:47do we prevent BPD five how do we treat
- 0:50BPD and six the outcomes after BPD so as
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- 1:04content one what is BPD BPD is another
- 1:09three-letter acronym that stands for
- 1:11Bronco pulmonary dysplasia which
- 1:14describes a chronic lung disease or a
- 1:17lung disease that babies have for a long
- 1:21period of time that started when they
- 1:23were premature BPD was first described
- 1:27by Northway in 1967
- 1:30at that time a lot of babies had really
- 1:34bad RDS and a lot of them died from RDS
- 1:37if they did survive RDS then they
- 1:40continued to have respiratory symptoms
- 1:42for a long time eventually that
- 1:44prolonged respiratory course after that
- 1:47initial odds was labeled BPD so it's
- 1:51that stage when the infant is over the
- 1:53initial RDS and the initial surfactant
- 1:56deficiency but they're still needing
- 1:59oxygen they still have respiratory
- 2:00symptoms they still may need may need
- 2:03pressure support and their x-rays don't
- 2:05look normal that really is BPD BPD
- 2:09affects about 10 to 15,000 infants a
- 2:12year in the United States and obviously
- 2:14a lot more than that internationally
- 2:16about 40% of extremely low birth weight
- 2:19babies that's babies that are born less
- 2:21than 1,000 grams will end up developing
- 2:24BPD now because more and more of these
- 2:27extremely low birth weight babies are
- 2:29actually surviving we're all doing a
- 2:31much better job with keeping micro pries
- 2:33alive then obviously we would expect
- 2:37that there's going to be a higher
- 2:38population that's susceptible to getting
- 2:40BPD so BPD is actually one of the few
- 2:43three-letter acronyms in the ncu that we
- 2:46really haven't been very good at
- 2:47decreasing the rate of so why do we care
- 2:51so much about BPD so what if a baby goes
- 2:53home on a little bit of oxygen or um
- 2:56just has respiratory symptoms the reason
- 2:59why we care care about BPD is that we
- 3:01know that infants with that diagnosis
- 3:03especially obviously with a severe BPD
- 3:06have a much higher chance of having
- 3:08issues later in life so have higher
- 3:10issues of having developmental problems
- 3:12cerebral py even decrease in academic
- 3:15performance decrease growth as well as a
- 3:18whole host of pulmer um problems as well
- 3:21as readmissions to Hospitals number two
- 3:25how do we diagnose BPD so the
- 3:28interesting thing about BPD is that it
- 3:30really is a clinical diagnosis it isn't
- 3:33a lab test or necessarily a chest x-ray
- 3:36that you can look at and say this baby
- 3:37definitely has BPD although there are
- 3:40some kind of pretty typical x-ray
- 3:42findings in infants with BPD and I'll
- 3:43get to that later really how we diagnose
- 3:46BPD is how much support the infant needs
- 3:50how much oxygen as well as how much
- 3:52positive pressure support obviously this
- 3:54is a pretty subjective diagnosis but
- 3:56I'll get to that in a second
- 3:58historically loads of different
- 4:00definitions have been used to diagnose a
- 4:03baby with BPD initially the diagnosis
- 4:06was based on the fact that if you needed
- 4:08oxygen for 28 days then you had BPD but
- 4:12then as more and more babies were
- 4:14surviving that seemed pretty unfair so
- 4:17for example if you're a 22 weer at 28
- 4:19days of life you're still 26 weeks so
- 4:21it's a bit harsh still calling that BPD
- 4:24in 1988 the clinical definition of BPD
- 4:28became do you still need oxygen at 36
- 4:32weeks correct to gestational age and I'm
- 4:34going to talk about other different
- 4:37issues with that but basically that is
- 4:40the definition that stands most commonly
- 4:43now and that is used most frequently in
- 4:45literature is a baby still on oxygen at
- 4:4836 weeks corrected gestational age the
- 4:51Canadian neonatal Network published a
- 4:53study that showed that developmental
- 4:56outcomes at 18 to 24 months were best
- 4:59predicted by whether a baby needed
- 5:01oxygen at 40 weeks not at 36 weeks
- 5:05however the problem with that definition
- 5:07as I'm sure you're all realizing is that
- 5:09there are a lot of babies that are
- 5:10discharged home before 40 weeks so
- 5:13they're discharged home at 38 weeks or
- 5:15even 37 weeks or whatever so you're not
- 5:18necessarily picking up all the infants
- 5:21and there have been a lot of other
- 5:23refinements since then as you can
- 5:24imagine a lot of researchers argued that
- 5:27there is going to be a huge difference
- 5:28in outcomes between a baby that is on a
- 5:31tiny bit of oxygen at 36 weeks versus a
- 5:34baby that's literally needing a
- 5:37conventional ventilator at 36 weeks
- 5:40because of this the BPD has been
- 5:43classified further into mild moderate
- 5:46and severe
- 5:47BPD remember just as an aside that in
- 5:50medicine when you're making a
- 5:52classification between different stages
- 5:55they all actually have to mean something
- 5:57so for example in cancer you're not just
- 5:59arbitarily saying stage 1 2 3 4 or
- 6:02whatever if a patient has a stage one
- 6:05diagnosis then their prognosis should be
- 6:07much better than a patient with stage
- 6:09two that's where the cut offs are made
- 6:12so obviously depending on the amount of
- 6:15oxygen or support that you need you
- 6:17should expect a worse outcome if you're
- 6:20making the differentiation between mild
- 6:22moderate and severe even that definition
- 6:25has had its issues and anybody that's
- 6:27worked at the bedside will realize this
- 6:30so what do you do about the baby who's
- 6:33on 1 liter 21% at 36 weeks but for
- 6:36whatever reason you take that one liter
- 6:38off and the baby starts desatting or the
- 6:41baby is on .02 L of 100% which is
- 6:45basically kind of 22% how do we classify
- 6:48that the most recent attempt at
- 6:51classification of BPD was made by an ND
- 6:54Workshop where they put BPD into three
- 6:57different grades basically the between
- 7:00grade 1 and grade two was whether you
- 7:02were on more or less than 3 l of oxygen
- 7:06flow at 36 weeks and grade three was
- 7:09when you needed any amount of positive
- 7:10pressure so CPAP or you were actually
- 7:13even incubated obviously like I said
- 7:15already the issue is is that we can't
- 7:17just say it's grade two that also has to
- 7:20be associated with a worse prognosis
- 7:22than a grade 1 BPD but as you all know
- 7:25and we've talked about many times
- 7:28following up niku patients is really
- 7:30hard they move around they get lost to
- 7:31followup the other super complicating
- 7:34thing about BPD is that there's still a
- 7:37lot of lung growth to be done after the
- 7:39baby leaves the niku so it's possible
- 7:42that a baby leaves has absolutely
- 7:45perfect nutrition and doesn't get
- 7:47readmitted into the hospital doesn't get
- 7:50any reinfections that infant is probably
- 7:53going to have a slightly better outcome
- 7:55lung wise than a kid that had the same
- 7:58course but isn't getting ideal nutrition
- 8:01and gets readmitted with RSV a couple of
- 8:03times in the first year of his life
- 8:05another complicating thing with a
- 8:07diagnosis a BPD is just how subjective
- 8:10the need for oxygen is so say you're 36
- 8:13weeks and a baby is kind of occasionally
- 8:16desatting then you decide one day that
- 8:18you're going to try to take the baby off
- 8:21the 1 liter 21% that they're on maybe
- 8:23somebody that night sees that the baby
- 8:25has a quick desat and just puts the baby
- 8:28back on again or maybe the baby is
- 8:30breathing a little bit fast so for that
- 8:32reason the baby is on nasal canula maybe
- 8:36they'd still be breathing it exactly the
- 8:37same speed if they were off the nasal
- 8:39canula so there's a lot of subjectivity
- 8:41in that just in the same nicku between
- 8:43the different providers in 2003 a paper
- 8:47was published by Walsh at Al that
- 8:50basically tried to decrease this
- 8:52subjectivity and they recommended that
- 8:55we should get a physiological definition
- 8:57of BPD basically what they said was that
- 9:00if at 36 weeks or close to 36 weeks a
- 9:03baby was on above 30% oxygen then that
- 9:06was it or on any positive pressure
- 9:08support then that baby was diagnosed as
- 9:11having BPD but if infants were on less
- 9:15than 30% then all infants were given a
- 9:18room air challenge basically these kids
- 9:21were slowly weaned off oxygen and then
- 9:24once they were on room air if their SATs
- 9:26stayed above 88% and this was later
- 9:29change to above 90% for an hour then
- 9:32they were considered to be stable on
- 9:35room a and to not have BPD they found
- 9:39that this decreased the rate of BPD by
- 9:41about 10% because effectively what
- 9:43you're doing is just removing the
- 9:46subjectivity the rumor challenge is
- 9:49probably something you should all be
- 9:50doing in your units right before 36
- 9:52weeks kind of 35 to 36 weeks to prove
- 9:55whether baby really does need oxygen or
- 9:57not so in summary the clinical
- 10:01definition of BPD is having an oxygen
- 10:03requirement at 36 weeks obviously
- 10:06there's loads more classifications but
- 10:08for the purposes of this discussion just
- 10:10remember that three what causes BPD well
- 10:14like all of you I'm sure have used a
- 10:16million times in your training we all
- 10:18learn different pneumonics and I agree a
- 10:21lot of these pneumonics kind of almost
- 10:23make it harder because you're trying to
- 10:24remember what each letter stands for but
- 10:27the classical one for BPD is that it is
- 10:30caused by the seven PS so the seven PS
- 10:34are one prematurity two positive
- 10:37pressure ventilation three prolonged
- 10:40oxygen exposure or just having a lot of
- 10:42free oxygen radicals four protracted use
- 10:46of ET tubes this one's weak basically it
- 10:49means that the baby's intubated for a
- 10:51long period of time five pulmonary edema
- 10:55so the baby could have that from PDA or
- 10:58overhydration
- 10:59or just um has delayed diuresis six
- 11:03pulmonary air leaks so for example you
- 11:05have a numo thorax or you have really
- 11:07bad pie and seven really bad
- 11:10pro-inflammatory Cascades so if a baby
- 11:13has many episodes of sepsis or has many
- 11:15surgeries then they're more likely to
- 11:17have worse BPD really though you can
- 11:20break all of these down into three main
- 11:23subgroups the first one is prematurity
- 11:26or just having really immature lungs
- 11:28number two two is just injury to the
- 11:30lungs whether it's from being intubated
- 11:33whether it's having a pneumothorax
- 11:34whatever it is and number three is just
- 11:37inflammation so for example like we were
- 11:39saying a pneumonia or a sepsis or
- 11:41whatever the two strongest risk factors
- 11:44for BPD are prematurity and low birth
- 11:47weight as you know if a baby is born
- 11:50very prematurely then by definition
- 11:52they're going to need some form of
- 11:54respiratory support even if it is just
- 11:56CPAP being on any ventilator causes
- 11:59injury to the lungs and our body's
- 12:01response to any injury is to get some
- 12:05sort of inflammation which in itself can
- 12:08be even more damaging to the lungs
- 12:11critical development of the lungs is
- 12:13happening throughout pregnancy obviously
- 12:16and really the last trimester the third
- 12:19trimester is when a lot of the alveoli
- 12:21are actually forming so you can imagine
- 12:24that if these babies are constantly
- 12:27getting injury to their lungs whether
- 12:28it's sepad or or the uh ventilator or
- 12:31whether it's just still needing a high
- 12:33oxygen and they've got the inflammatory
- 12:35response then just the combination of
- 12:38those two may affect the actual
- 12:41development of the lungs so those
- 12:43alvioli may not develop as well just
- 12:46because of what they are being exposed
- 12:48to this is an important point because
- 12:51it's really very different from an adult
- 12:53who is on the ventilator for a long
- 12:55period of time yes the ventilator will
- 12:59injure the lungs and they'll still get
- 13:00the swelling and everything but it won't
- 13:03affect the growth and development of the
- 13:05lungs themselves when it was first
- 13:07described in
- 13:091967 the focus of BPD was really on the
- 13:12injury that happens in the lungs and
- 13:15kind of the scarring from the
- 13:16non-compliant lungs and the oxygen that
- 13:18the lungs are being exposed to and
- 13:21Northway described the progression of
- 13:23BPD by using pathological slides so
- 13:25babies who had passed away as well as
- 13:28x-rays that showed all the scarring and
- 13:30the fibrosis in the lungs because of the
- 13:34injury that the lungs were exposed to
- 13:36obviously the younger and the smaller
- 13:38the baby the higher the chance of
- 13:40developing BPD and severe BPD but now
- 13:43it's thought that it's not really just
- 13:44because of the injury and the
- 13:46inflammation and the oxygen that the
- 13:48baby's being exposed to but by
- 13:50definition the younger that the baby is
- 13:53then the more that the lungs have to
- 13:55grow and develop outside the mother so
- 13:58the higher the chance that just the
- 14:00development of the lungs is going to be
- 14:02abnormal and this has been shown in
- 14:05specimens that infants with BPD have
- 14:09decreased number of alvioli and those
- 14:11alvioli themselves are made abnormally
- 14:14as compared to infants without BPD and
- 14:17then just generally the more injury that
- 14:19the lungs suffered then the worse their
- 14:21BPD is going to be so the longer that
- 14:24they need to be on the ventilator the
- 14:26more oxygen the higher the
- 14:27concentrations of oxygen they're Expos
- 14:29to whether they had a chest tube if that
- 14:31infant had several bouts of pneumonia
- 14:33obviously that's really going to
- 14:34increase the inflammation in the lungs
- 14:37all of those will contribute to a
- 14:39worsening BPD Remember by the way in
- 14:42utro the infants are getting their
- 14:45oxygen from the mother's Venus blood so
- 14:47basically they're exposed to saturations
- 14:50of kind of 50 60% so after an infant is
- 14:54born we now want the baby to have SATs
- 14:57in the 80s and '90s
- 14:59so you can imagine that for a baby
- 15:01that's technically still supposed to be
- 15:03in utro that really could provide a lot
- 15:06of free radicals and could be very
- 15:08damaging for the lungs and the rest of
- 15:10the body and that's the end of the first
- 15:13part of BPD please look out for the next
- 15:16part where we'll kind of go into a
- 15:18little bit more detail in the meantime
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- 15:26much for being here
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