What Happens When You Die? with Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche — Transcript
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- 0:05So, what happened when we die?
- 0:09So, normally this topic in my culture
- 0:14So, my culture, of course
- 0:16infused with the
- 0:18lot of Buddhist ideas, experience.
- 0:23So, we have
- 0:24elaborate
- 0:27kind of like
- 0:29intensive
- 0:31teachings
- 0:33and
- 0:35the view perspective.
- 0:38And also
- 0:40how to use
- 0:42the fear of death and dying
- 0:46as
- 0:48helpful
- 0:49better living.
- 0:51So, like for example, when I was young
- 0:55in my hometown
- 0:57like I tried to make sand castle
- 1:01and there's a bricks
- 1:03and my grandmother said, "Oh, this is
- 1:06impermanent.
- 1:07Everything's changing.
- 1:10You one day you will die, too."
- 1:12>> [laughter]
- 1:13>> So, she said
- 1:14"Don't fix.
- 1:16Don't care too much.
- 1:20Let it go." But, of course, letting go
- 1:22is not giving up. So,
- 1:26normally what we call is all the fear in
- 1:30our life somehow
- 1:33related with the death and dying. So,
- 1:35unconscious level, we don't want to die.
- 1:38At the same time, what we do is
- 1:40on purposely we try to ignore the death
- 1:44and dying. So, when these dilemma
- 1:47that you don't want to die
- 1:51and
- 1:52but you don't want to face it, you You
- 1:55want to learn.
- 1:56You try to suppress.
- 1:59So, you try to pretend that huh
- 2:04that is not really exist. Then it will
- 2:07subtle level create that kind of like
- 2:10fundamental fear.
- 2:13So,
- 2:14in our tradition what we call face it
- 2:18and learn it.
- 2:19And actually
- 2:21that
- 2:23the death and dying actually really help
- 2:25us
- 2:27to
- 2:28to help us to learn better living.
- 2:30So, what we call bardo. Bardo meaning
- 2:34intermediate
- 2:36state.
- 2:37So, the death is actually what we call
- 2:41transition.
- 2:44So, we have
- 2:46six bardos. This moment
- 2:50momentary or transition
- 2:52moment.
- 2:54So, three related with the living. So,
- 2:56these are the practice of death and
- 2:58dying. Three
- 2:59related with the living
- 3:01and three related with the dying, the
- 3:04moment of death and dying. So, total we
- 3:06have six practices.
- 3:08So, first important is for the living
- 3:12is the first what we call the bardo of
- 3:14living.
- 3:15So, bardo of living is
- 3:18to really
- 3:21learning and growing from ups and downs
- 3:25of the life.
- 3:26Because our life always go up and down,
- 3:28right?
- 3:29>> [snorts]
- 3:29>> Maybe one day you're happy and not
- 3:31happy. Your relationship works well and
- 3:34then in then relationship become
- 3:36terrible or you find good job or at the
- 3:39beginning very happy, promotion, then
- 3:40sometime after certain level your boss
- 3:43is not happy,
- 3:44>> [laughter]
- 3:44>> you're fired.
- 3:46Or you are very happy with the family or
- 3:48you lost somebody, your loved one and
- 3:52So, life always go up and down. It's
- 3:54what we call impermanent. Impermanent
- 3:57nature of the life.
- 3:59So, actually this up and down
- 4:03is very good for what we call learning,
- 4:06growing, and transformation.
- 4:09Why? Because we all have cocoon. We all
- 4:12live
- 4:13in the bubble
- 4:15that we create by ourselves.
- 4:18Normally, it's very difficult to go out
- 4:21of that bubble.
- 4:22But then when we experience this
- 4:25transition moment, the down moment, or
- 4:28the peak of up moment,
- 4:31there is what we call plasticity.
- 4:34There is um
- 4:37in a way the
- 4:39crack, like um gap of that bubble.
- 4:44Crack.
- 4:45So, if you use that moment,
- 4:50really be with that moment,
- 4:54and learn from that moment,
- 4:57and
- 4:58kind of like accepting that moment, but
- 5:02transforming
- 5:04for the next chapter.
- 5:07So, then actually we can go out of our
- 5:11own cocoon.
- 5:13Out of our own
- 5:16kind of a prison.
- 5:17>> [laughter]
- 5:18>> So, actually we really learn and grow
- 5:20and transform. I think
- 5:24normally many of us do that naturally.
- 5:28Maybe when you look back to your life,
- 5:31oh,
- 5:32that toxic relationship that
- 5:36ends,
- 5:37that somebody leave me, actually that
- 5:40was the
- 5:41you know,
- 5:42one of the best thing that happened to
- 5:44my life.
- 5:46Or that lost job.
- 5:49It turned out actually it really helped
- 5:51me to
- 5:52you know, find new job or learn
- 5:54something new or
- 5:56something new happened.
- 5:57So normally it happens.
- 6:00But the key point here in the bardo
- 6:02teachings what we call
- 6:04we need to have willing to learn.
- 6:07Willing to transform.
- 6:09And what we call let go, meaning accept
- 6:13it. But don't give up.
- 6:16To transform, to learn. Learn from up,
- 6:18learn from down.
- 6:20So that's the bardo of living.
- 6:22And second we have this bardo of
- 6:24meditation.
- 6:27So then
- 6:28second bardo mean bardo meaning
- 6:31in between moment or intermediate state,
- 6:33right?
- 6:35So normally what happen is our mind
- 6:38always jump between past and the future.
- 6:42We don't have the present moment. We
- 6:44lost present.
- 6:46So sometime we worry about the past,
- 6:48what that happened, you know, I did
- 6:50something wrong or something happened.
- 6:52There's a guilt, shame
- 6:54>> [snorts]
- 6:55>> and the blame to yourself or other or
- 6:57something.
- 6:58Oh, worry about the future, you know,
- 7:00what should I do? Tomorrow there's a
- 7:01deadline or I need to
- 7:04reply [snorts] all these emails and
- 7:06tomorrow, you know, I have this projects
- 7:08and then you cannot sleep even night
- 7:10time. You're living for tomorrow.
- 7:12>> [laughter]
- 7:13>> It's time traveling. So we lost the
- 7:15present.
- 7:17So when we lost the present moment
- 7:20then actually
- 7:22it is not good for the future.
- 7:24So the bardo of meditation meaning be
- 7:27with the present moment. Being with the
- 7:30present experience.
- 7:33Maybe you can begin with the
- 7:35breathing. So
- 7:36be with the breathing. And when you try
- 7:38to be with the breathing
- 7:41the present moment of the breathing now
- 7:44you might experience thought and
- 7:46emotion. Let them come. Let them go.
- 7:50Don't try to stop them.
- 7:52But don't trouble the lost with past and
- 7:55future.
- 7:56Just be with the breathing.
- 7:59And then feel your body. Relax the
- 8:01muscles in the body.
- 8:04Just feel the body now, whatever you're
- 8:07experiencing in the body, like even the
- 8:10temperature warm or cold.
- 8:13>> [snorts]
- 8:14>> You might feel relaxed or you might feel
- 8:16tired.
- 8:18And especially you might feel gravity,
- 8:20heaviness. Just feel it
- 8:22and be with that. So this is the bardo.
- 8:26Bardo meaning being with the present
- 8:29moment
- 8:30in between past and the future.
- 8:33So
- 8:35bardo meditation
- 8:37then third
- 8:38what we call
- 8:39sleeping and dreaming, bardo of sleeping
- 8:43and dreaming. So this is
- 8:46really prepare
- 8:48that
- 8:49how you're going to face
- 8:52the what we call the big day.
- 8:54>> [laughter]
- 8:55>> Big [snorts] adventure day, meaning the
- 8:57moment of the real death
- 9:01that
- 9:02one day you will face in the future.
- 9:05So what we call
- 9:06the process of sleeping
- 9:09and the process of dying is very
- 9:12similar.
- 9:13So when you really going to die, what
- 9:16happened?
- 9:17The dissolution experience. So what we
- 9:20call the
- 9:21four element dissolution. And this is
- 9:24very similar when you go to sleep.
- 9:26It's very short when we go to sleep.
- 9:30But uh
- 9:31the process is same. So maybe I will ask
- 9:33you, how many of you when you are going
- 9:36to sleep,
- 9:38you might feel like you're falling.
- 9:41Like
- 9:45or
- 9:48losing some kind of light.
- 9:51ground
- 9:53So anybody experience that? Raise your
- 9:55hand.
- 9:56Maybe some of you.
- 9:57So that is what we call the earth
- 10:00energy, the earth element
- 10:02dissolution.
- 10:04Then after that we feel like melting.
- 10:08Anybody experience that? That's what we
- 10:10call the
- 10:11water element dissolution. Then after
- 10:14that we might feel a little bit shock
- 10:16sometimes. Like
- 10:18like a burning, sparking
- 10:20shock.
- 10:22Anybody experience that?
- 10:24That is what we call the
- 10:26fire element dissolution.
- 10:28So normally the falling easy to feel,
- 10:32melting is less, and the fire also
- 10:35experience more.
- 10:37Then after that you feel like
- 10:40you're blown away,
- 10:42air element dissolution.
- 10:44Then become dark. So normally that's
- 10:46very, very difficult to experience, very
- 10:49rare. So you become you feel like dark
- 10:52then become unconscious.
- 10:55So that's the how we sleep.
- 10:57So what we going to when we die, similar
- 10:59thing.
- 11:01So actually I experience that.
- 11:04I did the wandering retreat. The
- 11:06beginning of my retreat
- 11:09there's no much money, all the money is
- 11:12gone,
- 11:13and I have to beg food. I got food
- 11:15poison, like
- 11:17stomach diarrhea, vomiting.
- 11:20Then after five, six days later no
- 11:23medicine.
- 11:24So I'm in the process of dying actually.
- 11:28So I got this dissolution, very clear
- 11:31experience.
- 11:35So, then
- 11:36we have this um
- 11:38what we call the
- 11:39the meditation part, all right? Part of
- 11:41meditation.
- 11:43Now, we stay in that present moment,
- 11:46staying with the
- 11:47awareness.
- 11:49Then what happened?
- 11:51Although
- 11:52dissolves this energy, the elements and
- 11:55the sensory perceptions also dissolve.
- 11:57So, for me
- 11:59I cannot see a person at a certain
- 12:00level, cannot hear.
- 12:02And my body become paralyzed.
- 12:05Then I feel almost going to become
- 12:09unconscious.
- 12:10And suddenly
- 12:12the feeling of open up.
- 12:16And in that moment
- 12:19there's no physical sensation.
- 12:22No thought, like what we are thinking
- 12:24now. When we think about apple, there's
- 12:26a image and word, right? These are
- 12:28disappeared.
- 12:30It's kind of a non-conceptual, yet
- 12:33you know
- 12:34what is happening.
- 12:36And that
- 12:38vividness
- 12:40that
- 12:41non-conceptual
- 12:43awakeful experience doesn't have front
- 12:46and back.
- 12:48It's beyond time.
- 12:50Beyond concept.
- 12:52And it has really feeling of kind of
- 12:55joyful, not physical bliss
- 12:58kind of experience, but
- 13:00joyful contentment.
- 13:03So, that is what we call the mother
- 13:05luminosity.
- 13:07And actually, when we go to sleep,
- 13:09everybody experience that. Maybe I would
- 13:11like to ask you, how many of you
- 13:15when you're joining boring meeting
- 13:17>> [laughter]
- 13:18>> boring meeting or uh you're in the car,
- 13:20but you're not the driver, okay?
- 13:23Or you are waiting for
- 13:26the bank
- 13:27>> [laughter]
- 13:28>> and then you waiting waiting and then
- 13:30you dose off you know you you fell into
- 13:33sleep a little bit.
- 13:38And you wake up. You you
- 13:40fell into sleep for few seconds and then
- 13:44you awake.
- 13:46So when you awake
- 13:48your mind feels so fresh.
- 13:50Awake.
- 13:52Non-conceptual.
- 13:54And the higher also gone.
- 13:57Kind of like
- 13:59become fresh.
- 14:00Anybody experience that?
- 14:03I hope you do.
- 14:06So that what happened is end of the
- 14:08dissolution we enter the state of
- 14:11non-conceptual.
- 14:12Something like baby mother luminosity.
- 14:17And we will experience that the moment
- 14:20of actual death.
- 14:21Very clear normally.
- 14:23But the
- 14:25most of the time what we call we are not
- 14:27recognized.
- 14:28Then we become unconscious again.
- 14:31So
- 14:32similar when we go to sleep
- 14:35we experience that
- 14:37the present awakeful
- 14:40experience the awareness.
- 14:43But then we will not recognize normally
- 14:45if we don't have this practice then we
- 14:47become unconscious again.
- 14:51Then what happen? We will wake up in the
- 14:54dream.
- 14:55So that's what we call that sleeping
- 14:57meditation.
- 14:58And we have the lucid dream practice
- 15:00recognizing your dreaming as dreaming.
- 15:03If you recognize your dreaming in the
- 15:04dream you have freedom.
- 15:07So
- 15:08what we call the moment we die after
- 15:11death you know after you become
- 15:13unconscious
- 15:14normally what we call
- 15:16you will become unconscious
- 15:19at least half day to three or three and
- 15:21half days.
- 15:23Then you will wake up.
- 15:27So, that is what we call them three
- 15:30bardo which is related with the death
- 15:31and time, right?
- 15:33The the
- 15:35um
- 15:36Yeah, three bardo which is related with
- 15:38the death and time.
- 15:40The first one
- 15:42element dissolution
- 15:43and then become unconscious is what we
- 15:45call the bardo of moment of dying.
- 15:49Then you wake up. [clears throat]
- 15:51That's the what we call bardo of
- 15:52dharmata.
- 15:54So, when you wake up, it's just like
- 15:56dream because you don't have physical
- 15:58gross body anymore. You have this what
- 16:01we call the
- 16:02subtle body, the mental body. You still
- 16:04have body.
- 16:05But everything there's a lot of light.
- 16:09Everything will like whatever you see it
- 16:10will become like mirage.
- 16:13And a lot of image.
- 16:15Sound. So, all the sensor totally open.
- 16:20If you recognize that time, you are in
- 16:23that moment in the bardo of dharmata
- 16:26especially if you meditate
- 16:29then what we call you will become
- 16:30enlightened.
- 16:32Within short period of time, fully
- 16:34enlightened. If not
- 16:36it will take some few weeks.
- 16:38Then you become more gross, more heavy
- 16:43and then the what we call the imprint,
- 16:45karmic imprint
- 16:47that like baggage
- 16:49that whatever we create this life will
- 16:51continue.
- 16:53Then you will look for the next life.
- 16:55So, that's what we call bardo of
- 16:56becoming.
- 16:59So, now all together we have six and
- 17:02this is just um
- 17:04that normally we learn
- 17:06this up and down moment through the gap,
- 17:09through the transition. So, actually
- 17:11what we call there is no real thing as
- 17:15real death.
- 17:18Death is just transition.
- 17:21Nobody
- 17:22really going to die.
- 17:24So, a death is like
- 17:26Yeah.
- 17:27Yesterday, you awake and last night you
- 17:29have become unconscious for some time
- 17:31and have some dream and this morning you
- 17:33awake.
- 17:34It's like that.
- 17:35Though this gross body
- 17:38might not be there,
- 17:40but it's continued with subtle body.
- 17:42Subtle body, in the dream you have body,
- 17:44right? Similar body like that in the
- 17:48part of the body like in the part of
- 17:49Dharmata.
- 17:51And that might change in the next life.
- 17:54So, in Buddhism
- 17:57what we call the cycle.
- 18:00Like when you're being born,
- 18:02you have that package.
- 18:04Like
- 18:0620 years before the developmental
- 18:08psychology said, when the baby was being
- 18:11born,
- 18:12baby has nothing.
- 18:15Like empty blank sheet and has to learn
- 18:19everything after the birth.
- 18:21Now, what the psychologist said, "No,
- 18:24that is impossible.
- 18:26The baby has the sense of the world
- 18:29already.
- 18:30Maybe even the personality
- 18:33is pre- set.
- 18:36And there's huge baggage comes together
- 18:40with the baby.
- 18:41So, that is what we call imprint.
- 18:44And that imprint in the mind together
- 18:47with the subtle body,
- 18:49it will change.
- 18:50But if you really recognize the birth
- 18:54the moment in the present moment,
- 18:56if you cut that imprint, then you become
- 18:59enlightened.
- 19:01Thank you.
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