What Everyone Gets Wrong About ADHD — Transcript
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- 0:00So this is an ADHD assessment, okay? I'm
- 0:02going to take some notes. Then we're
- 0:03going to understand what is going on
- 0:05here and what to do about it.
- 0:06>> Uh 45 minutes late.
- 0:08>> Yeah, sorry. There was like a ton of
- 0:09traffic. I forgot it was today.
- 0:10>> That's okay. Let's review your answers
- 0:12to the questionnaire I sent over.
- 0:14>> Didn't do it.
- 0:14>> Mhm.
- 0:15>> [clears throat]
- 0:15>> Okay, let's just dive in then. Uh
- 0:16question one, where are your sunglasses?
- 0:19>> I don't know.
- 0:19>> And when was the last time you did know?
- 0:21>> 2017.
- 0:22>> Okay. Are you thirsty?
- 0:24>> Yes.
- 0:24>> Do you have water?
- 0:25>> Got it.
- 0:26>> Will you drink it?
- 0:27>> Nope.
- 0:27>> What was that noise?
- 0:28>> A reminder.
- 0:29>> For you to
- 0:30>> Wish my best friend a happy birthday.
- 0:31>> Today?
- 0:32>> Two months ago.
- 0:32>> And you
- 0:33>> Forgot.
- 0:33>> For the
- 0:34>> Seventh year in a row.
- 0:35>> And how many times have they forgotten
- 0:36yours?
- 0:37>> Zero.
- 0:37>> Which makes you feel like
- 0:38>> friend.
- 0:39>> Even though you're
- 0:40>> Friends are super important to me.
- 0:41>> And when was the last time you started a
- 0:42new hobby?
- 0:43>> This morning.
- 0:43>> Pottery or pizza making?
- 0:44>> Pottery.
- 0:45>> Say more.
- 0:46>> So that I can make custom plates on
- 0:47which to put my homemade pizza.
- 0:48>> And your pizza oven has been
- 0:50>> Outside.
- 0:50>> For
- 0:50>> Three years.
- 0:51>> Filled with
- 0:51>> Cobwebs.
- 0:52>> And you are
- 0:53>> Too afraid to clean it.
- 0:53>> Have you ever kept a plant alive?
- 0:55>> No.
- 0:55>> How many amazing ideas do you have on a
- 0:57given day?
- 0:57>> Uh between one and 300,000.
- 1:00>> And how many of them do you execute?
- 1:02>> Pass.
- 1:02>> And finally, if you were the star of an
- 1:03action movie where the fate of humanity
- 1:05hinged on your ability to send a thank
- 1:07you card, it would end with
- 1:09>> Perfect score.
- 1:09>> So what we're going to do is go through
- 1:12each of these things that they describe
- 1:14and talk about how they connect to ADHD,
- 1:17okay? So first thing is that he's late.
- 1:19So we know that ADHD has time blindness.
- 1:22Second thing is the questionnaire. Did
- 1:24you fill out the questionnaire? No, I
- 1:25forgot. This is executive function and
- 1:28or disorganization. The water thing I'm
- 1:31not quite sure about. Do you have water?
- 1:33Are you thirsty? I was kind of confused
- 1:35about that one. You forget to eat or
- 1:37drink. Okay, that's helpful.
- 1:38>> We can talk about that.
- 1:39>> Thank you, Chad.
- 1:40>> Bodily signals.
- 1:41>> Next thing is birthday. This is a big
- 1:43one, okay? So forgot birthday, set
- 1:45reminder, reminder is old. This is the
- 1:48other interesting thing, right? Like the
- 1:50reminder was from a while ago, but they
- 1:51still haven't turned it off. They
- 1:53forgotten for seven years. Friends are
- 1:55important to me, and this makes me feel
- 1:57bad. This one is really interesting.
- 1:59We're going to dig into this one some.
- 2:00So, adopting new hobbies, impulsivity,
- 2:03and then they have cobwebs, which is
- 2:05lack of follow-through, right? So,
- 2:06discipline, also executive function.
- 2:08Plant is dead. This I think is also
- 2:10impulsivity. This is kind of the same as
- 2:12number five. How many ideas do you have?
- 2:14Hyper association. And then the last
- 2:16thing is this thing where he says, "If
- 2:19you had to write a thank you card,
- 2:20otherwise humanity would die, what would
- 2:22happen?" And he's like, "Everyone would
- 2:23die." So, we're going to talk about high
- 2:25stakes and how high stakes impedes
- 2:28action. There was an interesting paper.
- 2:31We're going to talk about all these
- 2:31mechanisms, okay? We're going to speed
- 2:33run them. There was an interesting paper
- 2:35that came out maybe about a year and a
- 2:37half to two years ago that did an
- 2:38analysis of ADHD short-form content, I
- 2:43think specifically on TikTok, and found
- 2:45that something like 90% of it was like
- 2:48wrong in some way. So, there's a lot of
- 2:50bad information about ADHD on the
- 2:53internet. I actually think this one is
- 2:54pretty good because each of these things
- 2:56we can describe, we can characterize and
- 2:59describe in a particular way. The first
- 3:01problem with this is that when
- 3:03oftentimes when we see a piece of
- 3:05content like this, we're like, "Oh,
- 3:06yeah, this is me. I have ADHD. This is
- 3:08me." What I don't like about this is the
- 3:10finality of it, right? So, this is our
- 3:13experience, and when we hear that a
- 3:15million other people have our
- 3:17experience, what we don't hear is the
- 3:19million people who were able to change
- 3:21it, right? So, if you have an ADHD, if
- 3:23you have a 60-second clip about all the
- 3:25problems that ADHD causes, that will way
- 3:28outperform what actually works because
- 3:31that requires depth and nuance, right?
- 3:34This clip I think has something like
- 3:35800,000 views. There's no way that my
- 3:37reaction to it will get that, even
- 3:39though I too have clips in the 800,000
- 3:41million whatever multi-million views.
- 3:44And so, that's the challenge. So, let's
- 3:45start with time blindness. Clinical
- 3:48implications of perception of time and
- 3:49attention deficit hyperactivity
- 3:51disorder, a review. time perception in
- 3:53children with attention deficit
- 3:55disorder, why don't you go to bed on
- 3:56time, a daily diary study of the
- 3:58relationship between chronotype,
- 3:59self-control resources, and the
- 4:01phenomenon of bedtime procrastination.
- 4:03There's a lot of papers about this. So,
- 4:04I'm going to give you guys a quick
- 4:06overview of this stuff, okay? So, what
- 4:08causes time blindness in ADHD and how do
- 4:11we fix it? So, the first thing is we
- 4:13have an internal biological clock that
- 4:16measures how long things take. In people
- 4:19with ADHD, that basic capability is
- 4:22impaired, which frustrates the
- 4:24neurotypical people around us a lot
- 4:27because they're like, "I told you what
- 4:29time to be here. Why are you always
- 4:31late? How long does it take you? It
- 4:32takes you 45 minutes to get here. Why
- 4:34don't you just leave at 5:15 so you can
- 4:36be here by 6:00?" So, the reason this is
- 4:38so confusing for them is they will lay
- 4:40it out for you so easily, right? And
- 4:42that makes sense cognitively. The
- 4:44problem is that that theoretical thing
- 4:47does not translate to your frontal lobes
- 4:51to actually plan action. This is kind of
- 4:53like telling someone, "Okay, how do you
- 4:55not recognize a tree has branches and
- 4:58leaves and flowers? If the flowers are
- 5:00red, that means it's a rose. How do you
- 5:02not understand that this is a rose
- 5:03bush?" And it's because you're blind.
- 5:05Like, that's that middle step of, "Oh,
- 5:08this makes sense into my head," which
- 5:10neurotypical people have no idea that
- 5:13there is a process between make sense in
- 5:16my head, therefore I do it. That
- 5:19fundamental gap has to be translated by
- 5:22your brain. And time blindness is a good
- 5:24example of this. There's another really
- 5:26interesting thing about time blindness,
- 5:28which is that, you know how people with
- 5:29ADHD don't know how long something
- 5:32takes, right? So, it's hard to plan your
- 5:34day. Why is it hard to plan your day?
- 5:36Well, because I have 15 minutes of I
- 5:37have to fill out this application. How
- 5:39long will it take? Between 15 minutes
- 5:41and 15 hours. That's why it's hard to
- 5:43plan because you have no idea how long
- 5:44something will take. The other
- 5:45interesting reason why it's hard to plan
- 5:47for your day is because when you do a
- 5:49task, if you have no internal biological
- 5:52clock, your brain gets no data about how
- 5:56long that takes. Does that kind of make
- 5:57sense? When I sit down to do something,
- 5:59a neurotypical person is like, I sat
- 6:01down around this time. Oh, how long did
- 6:02that take? It'll take you about half an
- 6:03hour. How long were you in line at the
- 6:05DMV? I was in line for about half an
- 6:07hour. You have an internal biological
- 6:09clock that is measuring things. When it
- 6:10measures how long something it takes,
- 6:12subconsciously and without your
- 6:14knowledge, you can also plan because now
- 6:16your brain knows, oh, go to the DMV,
- 6:18that is a 30-minute errand. That is
- 6:20missing in ADHD. So, a big part of what
- 6:23we like teach in Dr. K's Guide to ADHD
- 6:25and Doing Stuff, About Doing Stuff, is
- 6:28what are the tools that you can use to
- 6:31overcome that. So, as a simple example,
- 6:33people with ADHD, their sensory input is
- 6:36very, very robust. So, if you see
- 6:38something, if you hear something, you
- 6:40get distracted, you start paying
- 6:41attention to it. What you see and what
- 6:43you hear sinks in, which is why the
- 6:45utilization of like an organized planner
- 6:47or something where you measure your time
- 6:50in some way. I like measure things. I'm
- 6:53working on, I started at this time on
- 6:55this day, and I worked for this many
- 6:57minutes. And I just happen to have what
- 6:59games I chose not to play, which was
- 7:01Monster Hunter Stories and Warhammer and
- 7:03Unicorn Overlord recently. So, literally
- 7:05externally measuring things, writing
- 7:08things down, will help your brain.
- 7:10Second thing, the questionnaire. Did you
- 7:12forget to do the questionnaire? So,
- 7:13neurotypical people can remember to do
- 7:16things. Now, remembering to do something
- 7:18is actually really strange if you think
- 7:20about it. This is one of the weirdest
- 7:21things in the brain is remembering
- 7:23things. I'll give you all an example.
- 7:24I'm on my way home from work, and I'm
- 7:26about to take the exit off the highway
- 7:28to return to my home when I remember I
- 7:31need to pick up some milk. So, I'm like,
- 7:32oh, I was about to take the exit, I
- 7:34don't take the exit, I move one more
- 7:36exit down the highway, and then I go
- 7:37pick up the milk. I want you all to
- 7:39think about how weird that is. I forgot
- 7:41something, and then I remembered. Do I
- 7:43control the remembering? Absolutely not.
- 7:46My brain I forgot. My brain My brain
- 7:49remembers, and my brain floats up to the
- 7:51surface of my conscious thinking that I
- 7:53did I need to do this thing. So, a
- 7:55neurotypical person takes this for
- 7:57granted. The fact that you can remember
- 7:59is bizarre. To remember means that you
- 8:01forgot. And if you forgot, you don't
- 8:03control whether you remember or not,
- 8:05right? That is the experience of
- 8:06remembering. Oh, sometimes I remember,
- 8:09and sometimes I forget.
- 8:10>> Hey all, if you're interested in
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- 8:39>> So, what we know about people with ADHD
- 8:41is that their executive function and
- 8:43their inability to remember things makes
- 8:45it so that organization becomes really
- 8:48important, and particularly sensory
- 8:51input becomes really important. I will
- 8:53never remember where I put my keys. So,
- 8:58I always put them in the same place. I
- 9:00know where the keys belong, but I won't
- 9:04remember where they are, which brings us
- 9:07to another really interesting thing
- 9:08about ADHD, which is that a lot of the
- 9:10problems with ADHD, the reason we don't
- 9:12solve them is because we try to use a
- 9:14neurotypical strategy. And a
- 9:16neurotypical strategy won't work, right?
- 9:19So, if we're blind, we can't navigate
- 9:21with sight, we need a stick. But if you
- 9:24have a stick, you can manage. So, this
- 9:25is where like with ADHD, this is where
- 9:27you won't remember where you put it.
- 9:30That's why there must be one place where
- 9:32it goes. I love this phrase, don't put
- 9:35it down, put it away. Put it where it
- 9:37belongs. So, what I found working with
- 9:39patients, and this is going to be a big
- 9:40theme that we're going to focus on, is
- 9:42half the problems that you have are way
- 9:45easier to solve than you realize if you
- 9:48do them in a particular way. Now,
- 9:50building up the habit to do them in that
- 9:51way is not simple, but it's way easier.
- 9:54So, like a big problem with ADHD is
- 9:55preventing certain steps of this
- 9:58process, which is really where the
- 10:00problem lies. So, if I always put things
- 10:02where they belong, I will never lose
- 10:04them. Right? Which a neurotypical person
- 10:06can afford to be lazy, we cannot. And if
- 10:09you really think about it, how hard is
- 10:11it to, in my case, you know, in our
- 10:13house we have a nice little key rack
- 10:15thing right by the door, and that's
- 10:17where the keys go. And what's
- 10:18infuriating to me is, since I lose my
- 10:20keys a lot, I always put my keys in the
- 10:22same place. My wife does not have ADHD,
- 10:25she does not put her keys where they
- 10:27belong all the time. However, so then
- 10:29what happens is she misplaces her copy
- 10:31of the key, and then she takes my copy
- 10:32of the key. And then I go to drive the
- 10:34car and I can't find my keys. Now she's
- 10:37lost two sets of keys because my keys
- 10:39are reliably in one spot, and her keys
- 10:41are who the hell knows where. So then I
- 10:43end up looking for keys anyway. And then
- 10:45what I have to do, and by the way, I
- 10:46This is really interesting. I'm curious
- 10:48about this. If you have ADHD, are you
- 10:50better at finding the things that your
- 10:52partner misplaces than what you
- 10:54misplace? I would bet money that the
- 10:56answer to that question is true yes for
- 10:58y'all, too. Now I figured out where to
- 11:00find the keys that she misplaces because
- 11:02there's a pattern or order to them.
- 11:04Whereas, when I misplace them, it's
- 11:05absolute chaos. Okay? So, this is where
- 11:08if you forget to do questionnaires, if
- 11:10you forget to do things, you need to
- 11:12create a system where you are prompted
- 11:14in a sensory way. So, like
- 11:16questionnaires or paperwork goes in a
- 11:18particular place that you check on a
- 11:20daily basis. You don't rely on, "Oh, do
- 11:23I need to do something? Do I not?" No,
- 11:24you just go there and mechanically you
- 11:25look through what you need to do. Right?
- 11:27So, a good example of this is when I'm
- 11:28using an electronic health record and
- 11:30and things like that. When I go to the
- 11:32office, the first thing that I do is I
- 11:33log into my EHR and I see what what what
- 11:36my tasks for the day are. What I do the
- 11:38the night before I go to bed is check my
- 11:40calendar, when I wake up in the morning,
- 11:41I check my calendar. And then it goes
- 11:43into the calendar and it goes out of the
- 11:44mind. We can talk about bodily signals.
- 11:46So, this happens a lot. This is kind of
- 11:48with like
- 11:49hyperfocus. So, often times with ADHD,
- 11:52we get so hyperfocused on something.
- 11:54This isn't just ADHD. This is going to
- 11:56be neurotypical people with video games,
- 11:57for example. When we get really
- 11:59hyperfocused on something, we will often
- 12:01times suppress our bodily signals. And
- 12:03then when we have a break of some kind,
- 12:05we realize, "Oh my god, I'm so thirsty."
- 12:08And so, often times the right move there
- 12:10is to once again structure the way that
- 12:13you consume food and the way that you,
- 12:15you know, drink water or whatever. So,
- 12:16this is where often times what I try to
- 12:18do is have lunch ready when I'm done
- 12:21streaming. This I have a lot of help
- 12:23with. Thankfully, somebody else
- 12:24basically takes care of this for me. But
- 12:26when I'm done, lunch is usually ready.
- 12:28And if it's not ready, then I'm going to
- 12:29eat like crap. Right? Cuz I'm so hungry.
- 12:31And the really strange thing about being
- 12:34really hungry, which is true people with
- 12:36ADHD, I think it's maybe more intense,
- 12:38but true of regular people as well,
- 12:39neurotypical people as well. When you
- 12:41are really hungry, you want unhealthy
- 12:43food way more than you want healthy
- 12:45food. But healthy food will satisfy you
- 12:49way more than it will if you're not
- 12:51starving. The food that you want, you
- 12:53want a hamburger so much, but you will
- 12:56be way more satisfied with a salad when
- 12:59you are starving. And when you are not
- 13:01starving, a salad will satisfy you less.
- 13:04A burger will be more enjoyable because
- 13:06it's fatty and it's delicious and it's
- 13:08got protein in there and it's got that
- 13:09umami and we're going to put that
- 13:11pickles and mayo and mustard or
- 13:12whatever. So, this is what's also really
- 13:14hard is often times when we're really
- 13:16hungry, right? Like we want to eat that
- 13:18really unhealthy thing, but you'll
- 13:19notice something interesting. If you
- 13:20want a cookie when you're starving and
- 13:22you eat a piece of fruit, you will love
- 13:24the fruit way more as well. So, usually
- 13:26when I work with people with ADHD or who
- 13:28are just trying to eat healthy, we try
- 13:30to lean into this principle. Next thing,
- 13:32this is one that I want to spend a
- 13:33little bit of time with, the birthday
- 13:35card, okay? This is a reminder to do a
- 13:37birthday card for my friend, okay? We
- 13:39talked about executive function, we
- 13:40talked about forgetting things, we've
- 13:42talked about sensory input. The biggest
- 13:43challenges in ADHD, in my opinion, are
- 13:46not the first level challenges, they're
- 13:48the challenges that we layer on top,
- 13:51okay? So, so this is how this goes. I
- 13:53forgot my birthday card. That is a
- 13:54problem in of itself, that could be
- 13:56fixed. Then our mind does something kind
- 13:58of interesting. I've forgotten 7 years
- 14:00in a row. So interesting that it
- 14:02remembers that. Have you guys ever
- 14:03noticed that? That my mind is really
- 14:05good. Oh, yeah, I may have forgotten
- 14:07where my keys are, but it's really good
- 14:09at keeping track of how many years I've
- 14:11forgotten this kind of thing. So, not
- 14:13only do I forget my friend's birthday
- 14:15card, now my mind is keeping track of it
- 14:17and it is making me feel worse because I
- 14:20am I have a very good resolution into
- 14:24how bad I'm doing. And then it does
- 14:26something even more interesting, which
- 14:28is it says, "Oh, do you care about your
- 14:30friends?" Yes, I value my friendship so
- 14:34much. And then it does something kind of
- 14:36interesting. I value my friendships a
- 14:38lot and I failed. And since I value my
- 14:41friendships a lot, I feel so much worse
- 14:44about myself. You guys see how that
- 14:46works? And it happens so quickly. Forgot
- 14:48a birthday card, forgot a birthday card
- 14:49for 7 years, but I care about my friends
- 14:51and they got me one. And so you kind of
- 14:53like beat yourself up very, very
- 14:55quickly. So, this is where there's also
- 14:58emotional reactivity in ADHD. There's an
- 15:01emotional dysregulation subtype, which
- 15:03some people are advocating to be its own
- 15:05classification. So, there's attention
- 15:07deficit disorder, there's attention
- 15:08deficit hyperactivity disorder, right?
- 15:10Those are two subtypes. Inattention
- 15:12predominant, hyperactivity predominant,
- 15:14or a mix of the two, the combo meal. And
- 15:16then they're like, "Okay, let's do
- 15:18emotional dysregulation subtype." If you
- 15:20really look at what this is, this is
- 15:22dysregulation of your emotions. And
- 15:24here's how this works. Every day when
- 15:26you get the reminder, you are reminded
- 15:28that you forgot the birthday card. That
- 15:30reminder that you forgot the birthday
- 15:32card activates the emotional circuits
- 15:34that give you guilt. And once my guilt
- 15:37emotional circuitry gets hyperactivated,
- 15:40right? Let's think about what's
- 15:40precisely happening here. I hear a
- 15:42reminder,
- 15:44guilt pops to 100. Literally, the action
- 15:46is an alarm went off on my phone.
- 15:48Response is guilt goes to 100. We're not
- 15:50even aware that it's guilt. Then what
- 15:51happens is when the guilt circuitry
- 15:53activates, it manifests as thoughts.
- 15:56It's been 7 years. You care about your
- 15:59friends. Look at you caring about your
- 16:01friends. How pathetic. You care about
- 16:03your friends and you've forgotten 7
- 16:05years in a row. It's like bludgeoning
- 16:07you with these thoughts. And then there
- 16:09is an identification with it. I am a bad
- 16:13friend. So, I love to cite this this
- 16:15paper. Really interesting. If you look
- 16:17at the comorbidity between people with
- 16:19ADHD and depression, 3% of people who
- 16:22are diagnosed with depression will grow
- 16:24up to have ADHD. 70% of people with ADHD
- 16:27will grow up to have depression. A
- 16:29Treating ADHD is not just about time
- 16:32blindness, suppression of bodily
- 16:33sensations, executive function deficit,
- 16:36emotional dysregulation. It is also
- 16:39about the consequences
- 16:41of living with those things. I'm an
- 16:44idiot. I'm unreliable. I'm this. I'm
- 16:46that. Right? We have the first layer of
- 16:49primary symptoms. And then we layer on
- 16:51top of that things that are harder to
- 16:53beat. And here's the tricky thing. If I
- 16:55start someone on stimulant medication,
- 16:57it only works on layer one. Doesn't
- 16:59really work on layer two. Works on layer
- 17:01two maybe a little bit because it
- 17:02regulates the amount of guilt that I
- 17:03feel. Reduces the activity of my my
- 17:06guilt circuit in the brain. But it
- 17:07doesn't change my sense of identity,
- 17:09which is why I really love, and this is
- 17:10what really confuses people,
- 17:12psychotherapy is equally effective to
- 17:14medication. Works the same. Effect size
- 17:16is the same. And when I when I work with
- 17:18patients with ADHD, I like to do
- 17:20psychotherapy with them as well because
- 17:21we have to do this identity component.
- 17:23You're not a bad friend. You're not a
- 17:24bad person. You have this problem. We're
- 17:26going to actually jump to this, high
- 17:29stakes. There's one thing that is very,
- 17:31very, very annoying about ADHD. Can
- 17:34happen in neurotypical typical people,
- 17:36too. So, if you look at motivation and
- 17:39action, as something called salience
- 17:42increases, salience is importance. As
- 17:44the importance of an action increases,
- 17:47your motivation increases with it,
- 17:49right? So, oh, it's not like, do I need
- 17:50to pick up milk? Uh, not that big of a
- 17:52deal. Oh my god, I've got a hot date
- 17:55tonight. I really got to pick up that
- 17:56bottle of wine on my way home. As
- 17:58something becomes more important to you,
- 18:01your motivation towards that thing will
- 18:03increase. It's why it's hard to get
- 18:04patients to take blood pressure
- 18:05medicine. Cuz if you take blood pressure
- 18:07medicine, you don't really feel a
- 18:08difference. You feel the side effects,
- 18:09but you don't feel the difference. It
- 18:11doesn't feel important. So, we really
- 18:12have to help people understand how
- 18:13important it is. Cuz high blood pressure
- 18:15usually doesn't have any symptoms unless
- 18:17it's catastrophically high. You can run
- 18:18it like 160 doing damage to your body
- 18:20for 20 years and not feel a thing. But
- 18:22I've noticed in my patients with ADHD
- 18:24that high stakes is paralyzing, not
- 18:28motivating. For most people, as the
- 18:29stakes increase, our motivation
- 18:32increases. ADHD, it seems to have the
- 18:34opposite effect. And even in
- 18:35neurotypical people, there comes a point
- 18:37where if the stakes elevate to a certain
- 18:39point, we become overwhelmed and we
- 18:41become paralyzed. Now, one of the
- 18:43mechanisms for this is when we have a
- 18:45sympathetic nervous system response, so
- 18:47when our body gets turned on, I don't
- 18:50mean like sexually, well, sexually, too,
- 18:52but so, when our body is facing stress,
- 18:55tiger in the jungle, I'm taking my final
- 18:57exam, my body's like, we need to be
- 18:59active. So, adrenaline increases,
- 19:01cortisol increases. And when our
- 19:03sympathetic nervous system activates,
- 19:05uh, fight or flight is what we think
- 19:07about with the sympathetic nervous
- 19:08system. There's a third element, which
- 19:09is freeze. Fight, flight, or freeze. So,
- 19:12what we know is that, you know, when a
- 19:13when an animal is being hunted, it'll
- 19:16run away, it'll fight, or it'll play
- 19:18dead. And so, there's a a point where
- 19:20even like with trauma, right? Like
- 19:22there's a moment where we try to run,
- 19:24but then we freeze. When I work with
- 19:26patients who have been sexually
- 19:27assaulted, they will sometimes resist,
- 19:29they'll sometimes fight back, but
- 19:31sometimes what they'll do is dissociate
- 19:32and lock down and freeze. And that lock
- 19:34down is triggered by a high level of
- 19:37sympathetic activity. We feel
- 19:38overwhelmed, stuck, frozen. This seems
- 19:41to happen more often in patients with
- 19:43ADHD. And the reason for that is,
- 19:45remember there's a emotional
- 19:46dysregulation subtype, right? So,
- 19:48emotions skyrocket, and when emotions
- 19:51are very, very, very high, that is what
- 19:53can trigger the freeze response. I'm
- 19:55going to throw down with you when I'm
- 19:57not mildly angry, when I'm absolutely
- 20:00pissed. Oh my god, I'm so angry. Er.
- 20:02I'm not going to dead ass run away if
- 20:04I'm like a little bit anxious. The more
- 20:06fearful I am, I'm terrified, I'm just
- 20:09going to run. I'm going to stop
- 20:10thinking, I'm going to run. And when I
- 20:11feel overwhelmed, I'm going to lock
- 20:12down. This is what makes it so hard for
- 20:15my patients is because the more
- 20:16important things are, the harder it is
- 20:20for them to actually act. So, when they
- 20:22want to act the most, it becomes the
- 20:24hardest to act, right? So, this is it's
- 20:26it's such a beautiful example because
- 20:27he's like, "Can you write a thank you
- 20:29card if it's not that big of a deal?"
- 20:31Yes. If the fate of humanity depends on
- 20:33it, that pressure activates us
- 20:35emotionally. I don't know if it
- 20:36activates really that dissociation
- 20:38mechanism, that's a different mechanism
- 20:39in the brain, but it really causes us to
- 20:41shut down, for sure. To feel locked
- 20:44down, to feel paralyzed. I'd say lock
- 20:46down is a better subjective description
- 20:48from the patients that I've worked with,
- 20:50right? They feel like they're stuck,
- 20:51they're paralyzed. They're like they
- 20:52can't do it, okay? And so, then what
- 20:54happens is this aspect of high stakes,
- 20:57how important are friendships to you?
- 20:59The more important they are, the more
- 21:01that stakes increase, the more that you
- 21:03lock down, which then makes you feel
- 21:05even worse and leads to low self-esteem,
- 21:07leads to low things like depression,
- 21:09okay? So, this is what's really scary
- 21:11about it. Now, this is where there's an
- 21:13element of work that oftentimes people
- 21:15with ADHD miss, which is like, how do I
- 21:18deal with this? Actually, the way to
- 21:19deal with this is to deal with the
- 21:21association, right? There's a chain,
- 21:23forgot card, forgot 7 years,
- 21:26relationships are important, I am bad.
- 21:30And so, people will come in and they
- 21:31say, "How do I have self-esteem, Dr. K?"
- 21:34And they try to work on this problem,
- 21:36confidence, in isolation. Whereas,
- 21:38actually what we need to do is this is
- 21:40caused by this, this is caused by this,
- 21:42and this is caused by this. If we can
- 21:43break the chain, this melts on its own.
- 21:46So, notice the associations, notice the
- 21:49way that your mind jumps from one thing
- 21:51to another thing to another thing. And
- 21:52you will say, "But, Dr. K, all of those
- 21:54things are true." I'm not saying they're
- 21:55not true. What I'm saying is that as you
- 21:57lose attentional control of your mind,
- 22:01this is why mindfulness and meditation
- 22:03helps so much in ADHD. Because I want
- 22:05y'all to think about what is really
- 22:07happening in this scenario. The event is
- 22:10an alarm goes off, and the result is I
- 22:13am bad. I'm not disputing the logic of
- 22:15any of these. What I'm encouraging y'all
- 22:17to notice is just see how when an alarm
- 22:20goes off, I feel like crap. Like, what?
- 22:23It's this daisy chain, this is where we
- 22:24have to stop the attentional We have to
- 22:26shift our attention away from this
- 22:28process, restrain the mind. And then
- 22:30when we restrain the mind, direct the
- 22:32mind, make a card. Then, get excited
- 22:35about it, make six more. Then, mail one
- 22:39overnight. Just go to the post office.
- 22:41But instead, we do this. We do this
- 22:43every day when the alarm goes off,
- 22:44instead of actually fixing the problem.
- 22:46And this is like, this is what's so cool
- 22:48about working with situations like this.
- 22:50All of these things can get better. Now,
- 22:52this too is something that I think is
- 22:53really important. Let's talk about
- 22:54number five, new hobbies. I love this
- 22:57example, pottery or pizza. Pottery so I
- 22:59can make a plate for my homemade pizza.
- 23:01So good. So, new hobbies. We're
- 23:03impulsive. There's a lot of excitement.
- 23:06Oh, I want to do this. I want to do
- 23:07this. It would be so cool if we did
- 23:08this. So cool if we did this. But, then
- 23:09we have a problem with follow-through.
- 23:11So, one of the biggest things that I I
- 23:12try to help people do is what people
- 23:15will come to me and they'll say, "How do
- 23:16I follow through? How do I follow
- 23:17through? How do I follow through? How do
- 23:19I develop discipline?" That's not what
- 23:21you need to do. The circuit in your
- 23:23brain that acts impulsively turns on and
- 23:26then turns off. When it's on, you're
- 23:28motivated. When it's off, you're
- 23:30demotivated. So, order pizza oven
- 23:32cobwebs for 3 years. Really good, right?
- 23:34That's the scenario. So, actually what
- 23:36we need to control is not the discipline
- 23:39to follow through. What we need to
- 23:41control is starting in the first place.
- 23:43If we start to separate action from
- 23:46impulsivity. If we act impulsively and
- 23:49impulsiveness is what gets us to act.
- 23:52And then when the impulsiveness goes
- 23:53away, we won't follow through. The
- 23:54secret to follow through is not aha.
- 23:57Aha. The secret to follow through is to
- 23:59not start.
- 24:03You cannot quit or abandon if you never
- 24:06start.
- 24:07>> [laughter]
- 24:08>> Look at the wisdom. But, literally. So,
- 24:10here's the cool thing, okay? This is
- 24:12going to be some weird neuroscience, but
- 24:14I'm like it's it's legit, y'all. Action
- 24:17is motivated by all kinds of things.
- 24:19Nucleus accumbens. This is dopamine,
- 24:21emotions, impulsivity, okay? So, like
- 24:24all of these things can result in
- 24:25action. So, when I restrain my
- 24:29impulsivity, this is my frontal lobe
- 24:31blocking this and preventing that
- 24:34action. This is also the same part of my
- 24:37brain that gives me discipline. That
- 24:39gives me follow-through. The ability to
- 24:40plan and execute tasks over a long
- 24:44period of time is done by the frontal
- 24:46lobes, okay? So, literally the same part
- 24:48of your brain that does follow-through
- 24:50is the same part of your brain that does
- 24:53not behave impulsively. That restrains
- 24:55your impulses. It's the same part of the
- 24:56brain. It is to act deliberately. Does
- 24:58that make sense? Act deliberately means
- 25:01act with follow-through. Deliberate, one
- 25:03after the other. It's the same circuit.
- 25:04Stopping the impulse is the
- 25:07follow-through, literally. Same circuit
- 25:09in the brain, same function. And the way
- 25:10that that works, another way to kind of
- 25:12understand is what I said earlier, which
- 25:14is to disassociate impulsivity from
- 25:17action. To be able to train yourself to
- 25:20act out of things that are not
- 25:22impulsive. But as long as you are acting
- 25:24out of impulsivity, that circuit will
- 25:26not grow, right? We are stopping one
- 25:28circuit, we are pruning some neurons,
- 25:31and we're strengthening other synaptic
- 25:33connections. So this one is huge, right?
- 25:35And while I'm learning lots of things, I
- 25:38also have this scheduled on my calendar,
- 25:41right? So like I'm using organization to
- 25:43be able to do it all. Where you guys saw
- 25:45saw my excel excel spreadsheet with the
- 25:47various words that I wrote, the times
- 25:49that I wrote them. So I'm not just
- 25:50buying books on fiction, I'm actually
- 25:52writing. And I have a scheduled time
- 25:54that I go to an art class for 2 hours a
- 25:56week. And so if you schedule it, you'll
- 25:58do it. If you get prompted by it, you'll
- 26:00do it. If you have to show up, you will
- 26:01show up, right? You may show up late,
- 26:03unless you set a a timer and you know
- 26:05where your keys are. Do you all see what
- 26:06what I'm saying? Keys are in one place.
- 26:08I have my bag ready to go. I put
- 26:10everything in in in its place, and then
- 26:12I'm out the door on time. And I'm
- 26:13checking my calendar obsessively four
- 26:15times a day, okay? The impulsivity is
- 26:18also the the the ideas. How many ideas
- 26:21do you have? One to 300,000 a day. How
- 26:23many of them do you do? None. This is
- 26:25also impulsivity. Why do you do none of
- 26:27them? Because you're impulsive. If you
- 26:29are relying on your impulse, you'll
- 26:31start on a dozen and you'll finish none.
- 26:33If you disassociate impulsivity from
- 26:36action, if you start to act without
- 26:38impulse impulsiveness, and you restrain
- 26:41yourself from acting when you get
- 26:43excited. And I mean literally restrain
- 26:44yourself, like sit and like I'm not
- 26:46going to order this book on Amazon. I
- 26:48feel like ordering it, I'm not going to
- 26:50do it. And then another impulse will
- 26:52will come up. You check your calendar,
- 26:53you look at what you need to do next.
- 26:55It's amazing. A ADHD when I work with
- 26:58people, it feels like a set of dominoes.
- 27:00But the first one is like Stonehenge.
- 27:03But once one thing gets better, what's
- 27:05really scary about is scary about it is
- 27:06all of these deficits cascade. A
- 27:09snowball becomes an avalanche. And now
- 27:12suddenly I am a fundamentally bad person
- 27:16because each of these statements is
- 27:18logically true. But it is the process
- 27:20that my brain literally what happened
- 27:22today? My alarm went off. And then I
- 27:24feel like crap for the rest of the day.
- 27:26It can get better.
- 27:39>> [music]
- 27:52[music]
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