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  1. 0:00So this is an ADHD assessment, okay? I'm
  2. 0:02going to take some notes. Then we're
  3. 0:03going to understand what is going on
  4. 0:05here and what to do about it.
  5. 0:06>> Uh 45 minutes late.
  6. 0:08>> Yeah, sorry. There was like a ton of
  7. 0:09traffic. I forgot it was today.
  8. 0:10>> That's okay. Let's review your answers
  9. 0:12to the questionnaire I sent over.
  10. 0:14>> Didn't do it.
  11. 0:14>> Mhm.
  12. 0:15>> [clears throat]
  13. 0:15>> Okay, let's just dive in then. Uh
  14. 0:16question one, where are your sunglasses?
  15. 0:19>> I don't know.
  16. 0:19>> And when was the last time you did know?
  17. 0:21>> 2017.
  18. 0:22>> Okay. Are you thirsty?
  19. 0:24>> Yes.
  20. 0:24>> Do you have water?
  21. 0:25>> Got it.
  22. 0:26>> Will you drink it?
  23. 0:27>> Nope.
  24. 0:27>> What was that noise?
  25. 0:28>> A reminder.
  26. 0:29>> For you to
  27. 0:30>> Wish my best friend a happy birthday.
  28. 0:31>> Today?
  29. 0:32>> Two months ago.
  30. 0:32>> And you
  31. 0:33>> Forgot.
  32. 0:33>> For the
  33. 0:34>> Seventh year in a row.
  34. 0:35>> And how many times have they forgotten
  35. 0:36yours?
  36. 0:37>> Zero.
  37. 0:37>> Which makes you feel like
  38. 0:38>> friend.
  39. 0:39>> Even though you're
  40. 0:40>> Friends are super important to me.
  41. 0:41>> And when was the last time you started a
  42. 0:42new hobby?
  43. 0:43>> This morning.
  44. 0:43>> Pottery or pizza making?
  45. 0:44>> Pottery.
  46. 0:45>> Say more.
  47. 0:46>> So that I can make custom plates on
  48. 0:47which to put my homemade pizza.
  49. 0:48>> And your pizza oven has been
  50. 0:50>> Outside.
  51. 0:50>> For
  52. 0:50>> Three years.
  53. 0:51>> Filled with
  54. 0:51>> Cobwebs.
  55. 0:52>> And you are
  56. 0:53>> Too afraid to clean it.
  57. 0:53>> Have you ever kept a plant alive?
  58. 0:55>> No.
  59. 0:55>> How many amazing ideas do you have on a
  60. 0:57given day?
  61. 0:57>> Uh between one and 300,000.
  62. 1:00>> And how many of them do you execute?
  63. 1:02>> Pass.
  64. 1:02>> And finally, if you were the star of an
  65. 1:03action movie where the fate of humanity
  66. 1:05hinged on your ability to send a thank
  67. 1:07you card, it would end with
  68. 1:09>> Perfect score.
  69. 1:09>> So what we're going to do is go through
  70. 1:12each of these things that they describe
  71. 1:14and talk about how they connect to ADHD,
  72. 1:17okay? So first thing is that he's late.
  73. 1:19So we know that ADHD has time blindness.
  74. 1:22Second thing is the questionnaire. Did
  75. 1:24you fill out the questionnaire? No, I
  76. 1:25forgot. This is executive function and
  77. 1:28or disorganization. The water thing I'm
  78. 1:31not quite sure about. Do you have water?
  79. 1:33Are you thirsty? I was kind of confused
  80. 1:35about that one. You forget to eat or
  81. 1:37drink. Okay, that's helpful.
  82. 1:38>> We can talk about that.
  83. 1:39>> Thank you, Chad.
  84. 1:40>> Bodily signals.
  85. 1:41>> Next thing is birthday. This is a big
  86. 1:43one, okay? So forgot birthday, set
  87. 1:45reminder, reminder is old. This is the
  88. 1:48other interesting thing, right? Like the
  89. 1:50reminder was from a while ago, but they
  90. 1:51still haven't turned it off. They
  91. 1:53forgotten for seven years. Friends are
  92. 1:55important to me, and this makes me feel
  93. 1:57bad. This one is really interesting.
  94. 1:59We're going to dig into this one some.
  95. 2:00So, adopting new hobbies, impulsivity,
  96. 2:03and then they have cobwebs, which is
  97. 2:05lack of follow-through, right? So,
  98. 2:06discipline, also executive function.
  99. 2:08Plant is dead. This I think is also
  100. 2:10impulsivity. This is kind of the same as
  101. 2:12number five. How many ideas do you have?
  102. 2:14Hyper association. And then the last
  103. 2:16thing is this thing where he says, "If
  104. 2:19you had to write a thank you card,
  105. 2:20otherwise humanity would die, what would
  106. 2:22happen?" And he's like, "Everyone would
  107. 2:23die." So, we're going to talk about high
  108. 2:25stakes and how high stakes impedes
  109. 2:28action. There was an interesting paper.
  110. 2:31We're going to talk about all these
  111. 2:31mechanisms, okay? We're going to speed
  112. 2:33run them. There was an interesting paper
  113. 2:35that came out maybe about a year and a
  114. 2:37half to two years ago that did an
  115. 2:38analysis of ADHD short-form content, I
  116. 2:43think specifically on TikTok, and found
  117. 2:45that something like 90% of it was like
  118. 2:48wrong in some way. So, there's a lot of
  119. 2:50bad information about ADHD on the
  120. 2:53internet. I actually think this one is
  121. 2:54pretty good because each of these things
  122. 2:56we can describe, we can characterize and
  123. 2:59describe in a particular way. The first
  124. 3:01problem with this is that when
  125. 3:03oftentimes when we see a piece of
  126. 3:05content like this, we're like, "Oh,
  127. 3:06yeah, this is me. I have ADHD. This is
  128. 3:08me." What I don't like about this is the
  129. 3:10finality of it, right? So, this is our
  130. 3:13experience, and when we hear that a
  131. 3:15million other people have our
  132. 3:17experience, what we don't hear is the
  133. 3:19million people who were able to change
  134. 3:21it, right? So, if you have an ADHD, if
  135. 3:23you have a 60-second clip about all the
  136. 3:25problems that ADHD causes, that will way
  137. 3:28outperform what actually works because
  138. 3:31that requires depth and nuance, right?
  139. 3:34This clip I think has something like
  140. 3:35800,000 views. There's no way that my
  141. 3:37reaction to it will get that, even
  142. 3:39though I too have clips in the 800,000
  143. 3:41million whatever multi-million views.
  144. 3:44And so, that's the challenge. So, let's
  145. 3:45start with time blindness. Clinical
  146. 3:48implications of perception of time and
  147. 3:49attention deficit hyperactivity
  148. 3:51disorder, a review. time perception in
  149. 3:53children with attention deficit
  150. 3:55disorder, why don't you go to bed on
  151. 3:56time, a daily diary study of the
  152. 3:58relationship between chronotype,
  153. 3:59self-control resources, and the
  154. 4:01phenomenon of bedtime procrastination.
  155. 4:03There's a lot of papers about this. So,
  156. 4:04I'm going to give you guys a quick
  157. 4:06overview of this stuff, okay? So, what
  158. 4:08causes time blindness in ADHD and how do
  159. 4:11we fix it? So, the first thing is we
  160. 4:13have an internal biological clock that
  161. 4:16measures how long things take. In people
  162. 4:19with ADHD, that basic capability is
  163. 4:22impaired, which frustrates the
  164. 4:24neurotypical people around us a lot
  165. 4:27because they're like, "I told you what
  166. 4:29time to be here. Why are you always
  167. 4:31late? How long does it take you? It
  168. 4:32takes you 45 minutes to get here. Why
  169. 4:34don't you just leave at 5:15 so you can
  170. 4:36be here by 6:00?" So, the reason this is
  171. 4:38so confusing for them is they will lay
  172. 4:40it out for you so easily, right? And
  173. 4:42that makes sense cognitively. The
  174. 4:44problem is that that theoretical thing
  175. 4:47does not translate to your frontal lobes
  176. 4:51to actually plan action. This is kind of
  177. 4:53like telling someone, "Okay, how do you
  178. 4:55not recognize a tree has branches and
  179. 4:58leaves and flowers? If the flowers are
  180. 5:00red, that means it's a rose. How do you
  181. 5:02not understand that this is a rose
  182. 5:03bush?" And it's because you're blind.
  183. 5:05Like, that's that middle step of, "Oh,
  184. 5:08this makes sense into my head," which
  185. 5:10neurotypical people have no idea that
  186. 5:13there is a process between make sense in
  187. 5:16my head, therefore I do it. That
  188. 5:19fundamental gap has to be translated by
  189. 5:22your brain. And time blindness is a good
  190. 5:24example of this. There's another really
  191. 5:26interesting thing about time blindness,
  192. 5:28which is that, you know how people with
  193. 5:29ADHD don't know how long something
  194. 5:32takes, right? So, it's hard to plan your
  195. 5:34day. Why is it hard to plan your day?
  196. 5:36Well, because I have 15 minutes of I
  197. 5:37have to fill out this application. How
  198. 5:39long will it take? Between 15 minutes
  199. 5:41and 15 hours. That's why it's hard to
  200. 5:43plan because you have no idea how long
  201. 5:44something will take. The other
  202. 5:45interesting reason why it's hard to plan
  203. 5:47for your day is because when you do a
  204. 5:49task, if you have no internal biological
  205. 5:52clock, your brain gets no data about how
  206. 5:56long that takes. Does that kind of make
  207. 5:57sense? When I sit down to do something,
  208. 5:59a neurotypical person is like, I sat
  209. 6:01down around this time. Oh, how long did
  210. 6:02that take? It'll take you about half an
  211. 6:03hour. How long were you in line at the
  212. 6:05DMV? I was in line for about half an
  213. 6:07hour. You have an internal biological
  214. 6:09clock that is measuring things. When it
  215. 6:10measures how long something it takes,
  216. 6:12subconsciously and without your
  217. 6:14knowledge, you can also plan because now
  218. 6:16your brain knows, oh, go to the DMV,
  219. 6:18that is a 30-minute errand. That is
  220. 6:20missing in ADHD. So, a big part of what
  221. 6:23we like teach in Dr. K's Guide to ADHD
  222. 6:25and Doing Stuff, About Doing Stuff, is
  223. 6:28what are the tools that you can use to
  224. 6:31overcome that. So, as a simple example,
  225. 6:33people with ADHD, their sensory input is
  226. 6:36very, very robust. So, if you see
  227. 6:38something, if you hear something, you
  228. 6:40get distracted, you start paying
  229. 6:41attention to it. What you see and what
  230. 6:43you hear sinks in, which is why the
  231. 6:45utilization of like an organized planner
  232. 6:47or something where you measure your time
  233. 6:50in some way. I like measure things. I'm
  234. 6:53working on, I started at this time on
  235. 6:55this day, and I worked for this many
  236. 6:57minutes. And I just happen to have what
  237. 6:59games I chose not to play, which was
  238. 7:01Monster Hunter Stories and Warhammer and
  239. 7:03Unicorn Overlord recently. So, literally
  240. 7:05externally measuring things, writing
  241. 7:08things down, will help your brain.
  242. 7:10Second thing, the questionnaire. Did you
  243. 7:12forget to do the questionnaire? So,
  244. 7:13neurotypical people can remember to do
  245. 7:16things. Now, remembering to do something
  246. 7:18is actually really strange if you think
  247. 7:20about it. This is one of the weirdest
  248. 7:21things in the brain is remembering
  249. 7:23things. I'll give you all an example.
  250. 7:24I'm on my way home from work, and I'm
  251. 7:26about to take the exit off the highway
  252. 7:28to return to my home when I remember I
  253. 7:31need to pick up some milk. So, I'm like,
  254. 7:32oh, I was about to take the exit, I
  255. 7:34don't take the exit, I move one more
  256. 7:36exit down the highway, and then I go
  257. 7:37pick up the milk. I want you all to
  258. 7:39think about how weird that is. I forgot
  259. 7:41something, and then I remembered. Do I
  260. 7:43control the remembering? Absolutely not.
  261. 7:46My brain I forgot. My brain My brain
  262. 7:49remembers, and my brain floats up to the
  263. 7:51surface of my conscious thinking that I
  264. 7:53did I need to do this thing. So, a
  265. 7:55neurotypical person takes this for
  266. 7:57granted. The fact that you can remember
  267. 7:59is bizarre. To remember means that you
  268. 8:01forgot. And if you forgot, you don't
  269. 8:03control whether you remember or not,
  270. 8:05right? That is the experience of
  271. 8:06remembering. Oh, sometimes I remember,
  272. 8:09and sometimes I forget.
  273. 8:10>> Hey all, if you're interested in
  274. 8:11applying some of the principles that we
  275. 8:12share to actually create change in your
  276. 8:14life, check out Dr. K's Guide to Mental
  277. 8:16[music] Health. And so, we start by
  278. 8:17understanding what literally is
  279. 8:20meditation. How does experience shape us
  280. 8:22as human [music] beings? How do we
  281. 8:24strengthen the mind itself as an organ?
  282. 8:27And so, by understanding our mind, we
  283. 8:28understand a very, very simple tool, a
  284. 8:31crucial tool [music]
  285. 8:32that we have to learn how to use if we
  286. 8:34want to build the life that we want to.
  287. 8:36So, check out the link in the bio and
  288. 8:38start your journey today.
  289. 8:39>> So, what we know about people with ADHD
  290. 8:41is that their executive function and
  291. 8:43their inability to remember things makes
  292. 8:45it so that organization becomes really
  293. 8:48important, and particularly sensory
  294. 8:51input becomes really important. I will
  295. 8:53never remember where I put my keys. So,
  296. 8:58I always put them in the same place. I
  297. 9:00know where the keys belong, but I won't
  298. 9:04remember where they are, which brings us
  299. 9:07to another really interesting thing
  300. 9:08about ADHD, which is that a lot of the
  301. 9:10problems with ADHD, the reason we don't
  302. 9:12solve them is because we try to use a
  303. 9:14neurotypical strategy. And a
  304. 9:16neurotypical strategy won't work, right?
  305. 9:19So, if we're blind, we can't navigate
  306. 9:21with sight, we need a stick. But if you
  307. 9:24have a stick, you can manage. So, this
  308. 9:25is where like with ADHD, this is where
  309. 9:27you won't remember where you put it.
  310. 9:30That's why there must be one place where
  311. 9:32it goes. I love this phrase, don't put
  312. 9:35it down, put it away. Put it where it
  313. 9:37belongs. So, what I found working with
  314. 9:39patients, and this is going to be a big
  315. 9:40theme that we're going to focus on, is
  316. 9:42half the problems that you have are way
  317. 9:45easier to solve than you realize if you
  318. 9:48do them in a particular way. Now,
  319. 9:50building up the habit to do them in that
  320. 9:51way is not simple, but it's way easier.
  321. 9:54So, like a big problem with ADHD is
  322. 9:55preventing certain steps of this
  323. 9:58process, which is really where the
  324. 10:00problem lies. So, if I always put things
  325. 10:02where they belong, I will never lose
  326. 10:04them. Right? Which a neurotypical person
  327. 10:06can afford to be lazy, we cannot. And if
  328. 10:09you really think about it, how hard is
  329. 10:11it to, in my case, you know, in our
  330. 10:13house we have a nice little key rack
  331. 10:15thing right by the door, and that's
  332. 10:17where the keys go. And what's
  333. 10:18infuriating to me is, since I lose my
  334. 10:20keys a lot, I always put my keys in the
  335. 10:22same place. My wife does not have ADHD,
  336. 10:25she does not put her keys where they
  337. 10:27belong all the time. However, so then
  338. 10:29what happens is she misplaces her copy
  339. 10:31of the key, and then she takes my copy
  340. 10:32of the key. And then I go to drive the
  341. 10:34car and I can't find my keys. Now she's
  342. 10:37lost two sets of keys because my keys
  343. 10:39are reliably in one spot, and her keys
  344. 10:41are who the hell knows where. So then I
  345. 10:43end up looking for keys anyway. And then
  346. 10:45what I have to do, and by the way, I
  347. 10:46This is really interesting. I'm curious
  348. 10:48about this. If you have ADHD, are you
  349. 10:50better at finding the things that your
  350. 10:52partner misplaces than what you
  351. 10:54misplace? I would bet money that the
  352. 10:56answer to that question is true yes for
  353. 10:58y'all, too. Now I figured out where to
  354. 11:00find the keys that she misplaces because
  355. 11:02there's a pattern or order to them.
  356. 11:04Whereas, when I misplace them, it's
  357. 11:05absolute chaos. Okay? So, this is where
  358. 11:08if you forget to do questionnaires, if
  359. 11:10you forget to do things, you need to
  360. 11:12create a system where you are prompted
  361. 11:14in a sensory way. So, like
  362. 11:16questionnaires or paperwork goes in a
  363. 11:18particular place that you check on a
  364. 11:20daily basis. You don't rely on, "Oh, do
  365. 11:23I need to do something? Do I not?" No,
  366. 11:24you just go there and mechanically you
  367. 11:25look through what you need to do. Right?
  368. 11:27So, a good example of this is when I'm
  369. 11:28using an electronic health record and
  370. 11:30and things like that. When I go to the
  371. 11:32office, the first thing that I do is I
  372. 11:33log into my EHR and I see what what what
  373. 11:36my tasks for the day are. What I do the
  374. 11:38the night before I go to bed is check my
  375. 11:40calendar, when I wake up in the morning,
  376. 11:41I check my calendar. And then it goes
  377. 11:43into the calendar and it goes out of the
  378. 11:44mind. We can talk about bodily signals.
  379. 11:46So, this happens a lot. This is kind of
  380. 11:48with like
  381. 11:49hyperfocus. So, often times with ADHD,
  382. 11:52we get so hyperfocused on something.
  383. 11:54This isn't just ADHD. This is going to
  384. 11:56be neurotypical people with video games,
  385. 11:57for example. When we get really
  386. 11:59hyperfocused on something, we will often
  387. 12:01times suppress our bodily signals. And
  388. 12:03then when we have a break of some kind,
  389. 12:05we realize, "Oh my god, I'm so thirsty."
  390. 12:08And so, often times the right move there
  391. 12:10is to once again structure the way that
  392. 12:13you consume food and the way that you,
  393. 12:15you know, drink water or whatever. So,
  394. 12:16this is where often times what I try to
  395. 12:18do is have lunch ready when I'm done
  396. 12:21streaming. This I have a lot of help
  397. 12:23with. Thankfully, somebody else
  398. 12:24basically takes care of this for me. But
  399. 12:26when I'm done, lunch is usually ready.
  400. 12:28And if it's not ready, then I'm going to
  401. 12:29eat like crap. Right? Cuz I'm so hungry.
  402. 12:31And the really strange thing about being
  403. 12:34really hungry, which is true people with
  404. 12:36ADHD, I think it's maybe more intense,
  405. 12:38but true of regular people as well,
  406. 12:39neurotypical people as well. When you
  407. 12:41are really hungry, you want unhealthy
  408. 12:43food way more than you want healthy
  409. 12:45food. But healthy food will satisfy you
  410. 12:49way more than it will if you're not
  411. 12:51starving. The food that you want, you
  412. 12:53want a hamburger so much, but you will
  413. 12:56be way more satisfied with a salad when
  414. 12:59you are starving. And when you are not
  415. 13:01starving, a salad will satisfy you less.
  416. 13:04A burger will be more enjoyable because
  417. 13:06it's fatty and it's delicious and it's
  418. 13:08got protein in there and it's got that
  419. 13:09umami and we're going to put that
  420. 13:11pickles and mayo and mustard or
  421. 13:12whatever. So, this is what's also really
  422. 13:14hard is often times when we're really
  423. 13:16hungry, right? Like we want to eat that
  424. 13:18really unhealthy thing, but you'll
  425. 13:19notice something interesting. If you
  426. 13:20want a cookie when you're starving and
  427. 13:22you eat a piece of fruit, you will love
  428. 13:24the fruit way more as well. So, usually
  429. 13:26when I work with people with ADHD or who
  430. 13:28are just trying to eat healthy, we try
  431. 13:30to lean into this principle. Next thing,
  432. 13:32this is one that I want to spend a
  433. 13:33little bit of time with, the birthday
  434. 13:35card, okay? This is a reminder to do a
  435. 13:37birthday card for my friend, okay? We
  436. 13:39talked about executive function, we
  437. 13:40talked about forgetting things, we've
  438. 13:42talked about sensory input. The biggest
  439. 13:43challenges in ADHD, in my opinion, are
  440. 13:46not the first level challenges, they're
  441. 13:48the challenges that we layer on top,
  442. 13:51okay? So, so this is how this goes. I
  443. 13:53forgot my birthday card. That is a
  444. 13:54problem in of itself, that could be
  445. 13:56fixed. Then our mind does something kind
  446. 13:58of interesting. I've forgotten 7 years
  447. 14:00in a row. So interesting that it
  448. 14:02remembers that. Have you guys ever
  449. 14:03noticed that? That my mind is really
  450. 14:05good. Oh, yeah, I may have forgotten
  451. 14:07where my keys are, but it's really good
  452. 14:09at keeping track of how many years I've
  453. 14:11forgotten this kind of thing. So, not
  454. 14:13only do I forget my friend's birthday
  455. 14:15card, now my mind is keeping track of it
  456. 14:17and it is making me feel worse because I
  457. 14:20am I have a very good resolution into
  458. 14:24how bad I'm doing. And then it does
  459. 14:26something even more interesting, which
  460. 14:28is it says, "Oh, do you care about your
  461. 14:30friends?" Yes, I value my friendship so
  462. 14:34much. And then it does something kind of
  463. 14:36interesting. I value my friendships a
  464. 14:38lot and I failed. And since I value my
  465. 14:41friendships a lot, I feel so much worse
  466. 14:44about myself. You guys see how that
  467. 14:46works? And it happens so quickly. Forgot
  468. 14:48a birthday card, forgot a birthday card
  469. 14:49for 7 years, but I care about my friends
  470. 14:51and they got me one. And so you kind of
  471. 14:53like beat yourself up very, very
  472. 14:55quickly. So, this is where there's also
  473. 14:58emotional reactivity in ADHD. There's an
  474. 15:01emotional dysregulation subtype, which
  475. 15:03some people are advocating to be its own
  476. 15:05classification. So, there's attention
  477. 15:07deficit disorder, there's attention
  478. 15:08deficit hyperactivity disorder, right?
  479. 15:10Those are two subtypes. Inattention
  480. 15:12predominant, hyperactivity predominant,
  481. 15:14or a mix of the two, the combo meal. And
  482. 15:16then they're like, "Okay, let's do
  483. 15:18emotional dysregulation subtype." If you
  484. 15:20really look at what this is, this is
  485. 15:22dysregulation of your emotions. And
  486. 15:24here's how this works. Every day when
  487. 15:26you get the reminder, you are reminded
  488. 15:28that you forgot the birthday card. That
  489. 15:30reminder that you forgot the birthday
  490. 15:32card activates the emotional circuits
  491. 15:34that give you guilt. And once my guilt
  492. 15:37emotional circuitry gets hyperactivated,
  493. 15:40right? Let's think about what's
  494. 15:40precisely happening here. I hear a
  495. 15:42reminder,
  496. 15:44guilt pops to 100. Literally, the action
  497. 15:46is an alarm went off on my phone.
  498. 15:48Response is guilt goes to 100. We're not
  499. 15:50even aware that it's guilt. Then what
  500. 15:51happens is when the guilt circuitry
  501. 15:53activates, it manifests as thoughts.
  502. 15:56It's been 7 years. You care about your
  503. 15:59friends. Look at you caring about your
  504. 16:01friends. How pathetic. You care about
  505. 16:03your friends and you've forgotten 7
  506. 16:05years in a row. It's like bludgeoning
  507. 16:07you with these thoughts. And then there
  508. 16:09is an identification with it. I am a bad
  509. 16:13friend. So, I love to cite this this
  510. 16:15paper. Really interesting. If you look
  511. 16:17at the comorbidity between people with
  512. 16:19ADHD and depression, 3% of people who
  513. 16:22are diagnosed with depression will grow
  514. 16:24up to have ADHD. 70% of people with ADHD
  515. 16:27will grow up to have depression. A
  516. 16:29Treating ADHD is not just about time
  517. 16:32blindness, suppression of bodily
  518. 16:33sensations, executive function deficit,
  519. 16:36emotional dysregulation. It is also
  520. 16:39about the consequences
  521. 16:41of living with those things. I'm an
  522. 16:44idiot. I'm unreliable. I'm this. I'm
  523. 16:46that. Right? We have the first layer of
  524. 16:49primary symptoms. And then we layer on
  525. 16:51top of that things that are harder to
  526. 16:53beat. And here's the tricky thing. If I
  527. 16:55start someone on stimulant medication,
  528. 16:57it only works on layer one. Doesn't
  529. 16:59really work on layer two. Works on layer
  530. 17:01two maybe a little bit because it
  531. 17:02regulates the amount of guilt that I
  532. 17:03feel. Reduces the activity of my my
  533. 17:06guilt circuit in the brain. But it
  534. 17:07doesn't change my sense of identity,
  535. 17:09which is why I really love, and this is
  536. 17:10what really confuses people,
  537. 17:12psychotherapy is equally effective to
  538. 17:14medication. Works the same. Effect size
  539. 17:16is the same. And when I when I work with
  540. 17:18patients with ADHD, I like to do
  541. 17:20psychotherapy with them as well because
  542. 17:21we have to do this identity component.
  543. 17:23You're not a bad friend. You're not a
  544. 17:24bad person. You have this problem. We're
  545. 17:26going to actually jump to this, high
  546. 17:29stakes. There's one thing that is very,
  547. 17:31very, very annoying about ADHD. Can
  548. 17:34happen in neurotypical typical people,
  549. 17:36too. So, if you look at motivation and
  550. 17:39action, as something called salience
  551. 17:42increases, salience is importance. As
  552. 17:44the importance of an action increases,
  553. 17:47your motivation increases with it,
  554. 17:49right? So, oh, it's not like, do I need
  555. 17:50to pick up milk? Uh, not that big of a
  556. 17:52deal. Oh my god, I've got a hot date
  557. 17:55tonight. I really got to pick up that
  558. 17:56bottle of wine on my way home. As
  559. 17:58something becomes more important to you,
  560. 18:01your motivation towards that thing will
  561. 18:03increase. It's why it's hard to get
  562. 18:04patients to take blood pressure
  563. 18:05medicine. Cuz if you take blood pressure
  564. 18:07medicine, you don't really feel a
  565. 18:08difference. You feel the side effects,
  566. 18:09but you don't feel the difference. It
  567. 18:11doesn't feel important. So, we really
  568. 18:12have to help people understand how
  569. 18:13important it is. Cuz high blood pressure
  570. 18:15usually doesn't have any symptoms unless
  571. 18:17it's catastrophically high. You can run
  572. 18:18it like 160 doing damage to your body
  573. 18:20for 20 years and not feel a thing. But
  574. 18:22I've noticed in my patients with ADHD
  575. 18:24that high stakes is paralyzing, not
  576. 18:28motivating. For most people, as the
  577. 18:29stakes increase, our motivation
  578. 18:32increases. ADHD, it seems to have the
  579. 18:34opposite effect. And even in
  580. 18:35neurotypical people, there comes a point
  581. 18:37where if the stakes elevate to a certain
  582. 18:39point, we become overwhelmed and we
  583. 18:41become paralyzed. Now, one of the
  584. 18:43mechanisms for this is when we have a
  585. 18:45sympathetic nervous system response, so
  586. 18:47when our body gets turned on, I don't
  587. 18:50mean like sexually, well, sexually, too,
  588. 18:52but so, when our body is facing stress,
  589. 18:55tiger in the jungle, I'm taking my final
  590. 18:57exam, my body's like, we need to be
  591. 18:59active. So, adrenaline increases,
  592. 19:01cortisol increases. And when our
  593. 19:03sympathetic nervous system activates,
  594. 19:05uh, fight or flight is what we think
  595. 19:07about with the sympathetic nervous
  596. 19:08system. There's a third element, which
  597. 19:09is freeze. Fight, flight, or freeze. So,
  598. 19:12what we know is that, you know, when a
  599. 19:13when an animal is being hunted, it'll
  600. 19:16run away, it'll fight, or it'll play
  601. 19:18dead. And so, there's a a point where
  602. 19:20even like with trauma, right? Like
  603. 19:22there's a moment where we try to run,
  604. 19:24but then we freeze. When I work with
  605. 19:26patients who have been sexually
  606. 19:27assaulted, they will sometimes resist,
  607. 19:29they'll sometimes fight back, but
  608. 19:31sometimes what they'll do is dissociate
  609. 19:32and lock down and freeze. And that lock
  610. 19:34down is triggered by a high level of
  611. 19:37sympathetic activity. We feel
  612. 19:38overwhelmed, stuck, frozen. This seems
  613. 19:41to happen more often in patients with
  614. 19:43ADHD. And the reason for that is,
  615. 19:45remember there's a emotional
  616. 19:46dysregulation subtype, right? So,
  617. 19:48emotions skyrocket, and when emotions
  618. 19:51are very, very, very high, that is what
  619. 19:53can trigger the freeze response. I'm
  620. 19:55going to throw down with you when I'm
  621. 19:57not mildly angry, when I'm absolutely
  622. 20:00pissed. Oh my god, I'm so angry. Er.
  623. 20:02I'm not going to dead ass run away if
  624. 20:04I'm like a little bit anxious. The more
  625. 20:06fearful I am, I'm terrified, I'm just
  626. 20:09going to run. I'm going to stop
  627. 20:10thinking, I'm going to run. And when I
  628. 20:11feel overwhelmed, I'm going to lock
  629. 20:12down. This is what makes it so hard for
  630. 20:15my patients is because the more
  631. 20:16important things are, the harder it is
  632. 20:20for them to actually act. So, when they
  633. 20:22want to act the most, it becomes the
  634. 20:24hardest to act, right? So, this is it's
  635. 20:26it's such a beautiful example because
  636. 20:27he's like, "Can you write a thank you
  637. 20:29card if it's not that big of a deal?"
  638. 20:31Yes. If the fate of humanity depends on
  639. 20:33it, that pressure activates us
  640. 20:35emotionally. I don't know if it
  641. 20:36activates really that dissociation
  642. 20:38mechanism, that's a different mechanism
  643. 20:39in the brain, but it really causes us to
  644. 20:41shut down, for sure. To feel locked
  645. 20:44down, to feel paralyzed. I'd say lock
  646. 20:46down is a better subjective description
  647. 20:48from the patients that I've worked with,
  648. 20:50right? They feel like they're stuck,
  649. 20:51they're paralyzed. They're like they
  650. 20:52can't do it, okay? And so, then what
  651. 20:54happens is this aspect of high stakes,
  652. 20:57how important are friendships to you?
  653. 20:59The more important they are, the more
  654. 21:01that stakes increase, the more that you
  655. 21:03lock down, which then makes you feel
  656. 21:05even worse and leads to low self-esteem,
  657. 21:07leads to low things like depression,
  658. 21:09okay? So, this is what's really scary
  659. 21:11about it. Now, this is where there's an
  660. 21:13element of work that oftentimes people
  661. 21:15with ADHD miss, which is like, how do I
  662. 21:18deal with this? Actually, the way to
  663. 21:19deal with this is to deal with the
  664. 21:21association, right? There's a chain,
  665. 21:23forgot card, forgot 7 years,
  666. 21:26relationships are important, I am bad.
  667. 21:30And so, people will come in and they
  668. 21:31say, "How do I have self-esteem, Dr. K?"
  669. 21:34And they try to work on this problem,
  670. 21:36confidence, in isolation. Whereas,
  671. 21:38actually what we need to do is this is
  672. 21:40caused by this, this is caused by this,
  673. 21:42and this is caused by this. If we can
  674. 21:43break the chain, this melts on its own.
  675. 21:46So, notice the associations, notice the
  676. 21:49way that your mind jumps from one thing
  677. 21:51to another thing to another thing. And
  678. 21:52you will say, "But, Dr. K, all of those
  679. 21:54things are true." I'm not saying they're
  680. 21:55not true. What I'm saying is that as you
  681. 21:57lose attentional control of your mind,
  682. 22:01this is why mindfulness and meditation
  683. 22:03helps so much in ADHD. Because I want
  684. 22:05y'all to think about what is really
  685. 22:07happening in this scenario. The event is
  686. 22:10an alarm goes off, and the result is I
  687. 22:13am bad. I'm not disputing the logic of
  688. 22:15any of these. What I'm encouraging y'all
  689. 22:17to notice is just see how when an alarm
  690. 22:20goes off, I feel like crap. Like, what?
  691. 22:23It's this daisy chain, this is where we
  692. 22:24have to stop the attentional We have to
  693. 22:26shift our attention away from this
  694. 22:28process, restrain the mind. And then
  695. 22:30when we restrain the mind, direct the
  696. 22:32mind, make a card. Then, get excited
  697. 22:35about it, make six more. Then, mail one
  698. 22:39overnight. Just go to the post office.
  699. 22:41But instead, we do this. We do this
  700. 22:43every day when the alarm goes off,
  701. 22:44instead of actually fixing the problem.
  702. 22:46And this is like, this is what's so cool
  703. 22:48about working with situations like this.
  704. 22:50All of these things can get better. Now,
  705. 22:52this too is something that I think is
  706. 22:53really important. Let's talk about
  707. 22:54number five, new hobbies. I love this
  708. 22:57example, pottery or pizza. Pottery so I
  709. 22:59can make a plate for my homemade pizza.
  710. 23:01So good. So, new hobbies. We're
  711. 23:03impulsive. There's a lot of excitement.
  712. 23:06Oh, I want to do this. I want to do
  713. 23:07this. It would be so cool if we did
  714. 23:08this. So cool if we did this. But, then
  715. 23:09we have a problem with follow-through.
  716. 23:11So, one of the biggest things that I I
  717. 23:12try to help people do is what people
  718. 23:15will come to me and they'll say, "How do
  719. 23:16I follow through? How do I follow
  720. 23:17through? How do I follow through? How do
  721. 23:19I develop discipline?" That's not what
  722. 23:21you need to do. The circuit in your
  723. 23:23brain that acts impulsively turns on and
  724. 23:26then turns off. When it's on, you're
  725. 23:28motivated. When it's off, you're
  726. 23:30demotivated. So, order pizza oven
  727. 23:32cobwebs for 3 years. Really good, right?
  728. 23:34That's the scenario. So, actually what
  729. 23:36we need to control is not the discipline
  730. 23:39to follow through. What we need to
  731. 23:41control is starting in the first place.
  732. 23:43If we start to separate action from
  733. 23:46impulsivity. If we act impulsively and
  734. 23:49impulsiveness is what gets us to act.
  735. 23:52And then when the impulsiveness goes
  736. 23:53away, we won't follow through. The
  737. 23:54secret to follow through is not aha.
  738. 23:57Aha. The secret to follow through is to
  739. 23:59not start.
  740. 24:03You cannot quit or abandon if you never
  741. 24:06start.
  742. 24:07>> [laughter]
  743. 24:08>> Look at the wisdom. But, literally. So,
  744. 24:10here's the cool thing, okay? This is
  745. 24:12going to be some weird neuroscience, but
  746. 24:14I'm like it's it's legit, y'all. Action
  747. 24:17is motivated by all kinds of things.
  748. 24:19Nucleus accumbens. This is dopamine,
  749. 24:21emotions, impulsivity, okay? So, like
  750. 24:24all of these things can result in
  751. 24:25action. So, when I restrain my
  752. 24:29impulsivity, this is my frontal lobe
  753. 24:31blocking this and preventing that
  754. 24:34action. This is also the same part of my
  755. 24:37brain that gives me discipline. That
  756. 24:39gives me follow-through. The ability to
  757. 24:40plan and execute tasks over a long
  758. 24:44period of time is done by the frontal
  759. 24:46lobes, okay? So, literally the same part
  760. 24:48of your brain that does follow-through
  761. 24:50is the same part of your brain that does
  762. 24:53not behave impulsively. That restrains
  763. 24:55your impulses. It's the same part of the
  764. 24:56brain. It is to act deliberately. Does
  765. 24:58that make sense? Act deliberately means
  766. 25:01act with follow-through. Deliberate, one
  767. 25:03after the other. It's the same circuit.
  768. 25:04Stopping the impulse is the
  769. 25:07follow-through, literally. Same circuit
  770. 25:09in the brain, same function. And the way
  771. 25:10that that works, another way to kind of
  772. 25:12understand is what I said earlier, which
  773. 25:14is to disassociate impulsivity from
  774. 25:17action. To be able to train yourself to
  775. 25:20act out of things that are not
  776. 25:22impulsive. But as long as you are acting
  777. 25:24out of impulsivity, that circuit will
  778. 25:26not grow, right? We are stopping one
  779. 25:28circuit, we are pruning some neurons,
  780. 25:31and we're strengthening other synaptic
  781. 25:33connections. So this one is huge, right?
  782. 25:35And while I'm learning lots of things, I
  783. 25:38also have this scheduled on my calendar,
  784. 25:41right? So like I'm using organization to
  785. 25:43be able to do it all. Where you guys saw
  786. 25:45saw my excel excel spreadsheet with the
  787. 25:47various words that I wrote, the times
  788. 25:49that I wrote them. So I'm not just
  789. 25:50buying books on fiction, I'm actually
  790. 25:52writing. And I have a scheduled time
  791. 25:54that I go to an art class for 2 hours a
  792. 25:56week. And so if you schedule it, you'll
  793. 25:58do it. If you get prompted by it, you'll
  794. 26:00do it. If you have to show up, you will
  795. 26:01show up, right? You may show up late,
  796. 26:03unless you set a a timer and you know
  797. 26:05where your keys are. Do you all see what
  798. 26:06what I'm saying? Keys are in one place.
  799. 26:08I have my bag ready to go. I put
  800. 26:10everything in in in its place, and then
  801. 26:12I'm out the door on time. And I'm
  802. 26:13checking my calendar obsessively four
  803. 26:15times a day, okay? The impulsivity is
  804. 26:18also the the the ideas. How many ideas
  805. 26:21do you have? One to 300,000 a day. How
  806. 26:23many of them do you do? None. This is
  807. 26:25also impulsivity. Why do you do none of
  808. 26:27them? Because you're impulsive. If you
  809. 26:29are relying on your impulse, you'll
  810. 26:31start on a dozen and you'll finish none.
  811. 26:33If you disassociate impulsivity from
  812. 26:36action, if you start to act without
  813. 26:38impulse impulsiveness, and you restrain
  814. 26:41yourself from acting when you get
  815. 26:43excited. And I mean literally restrain
  816. 26:44yourself, like sit and like I'm not
  817. 26:46going to order this book on Amazon. I
  818. 26:48feel like ordering it, I'm not going to
  819. 26:50do it. And then another impulse will
  820. 26:52will come up. You check your calendar,
  821. 26:53you look at what you need to do next.
  822. 26:55It's amazing. A ADHD when I work with
  823. 26:58people, it feels like a set of dominoes.
  824. 27:00But the first one is like Stonehenge.
  825. 27:03But once one thing gets better, what's
  826. 27:05really scary about is scary about it is
  827. 27:06all of these deficits cascade. A
  828. 27:09snowball becomes an avalanche. And now
  829. 27:12suddenly I am a fundamentally bad person
  830. 27:16because each of these statements is
  831. 27:18logically true. But it is the process
  832. 27:20that my brain literally what happened
  833. 27:22today? My alarm went off. And then I
  834. 27:24feel like crap for the rest of the day.
  835. 27:26It can get better.
  836. 27:39>> [music]
  837. 27:52[music]

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