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  1. 0:00If you are trying to cross a border and
  2. 0:02harm any of our soldiers, you will be
  3. 0:04dead. This is what I said in the
  4. 0:05parliament. I said do not come to the
  5. 0:07Polish border because you will be dead,
  6. 0:09shot dead. Because one of my friends, he
  7. 0:11came to Poland 30 years ago from Syria,
  8. 0:13get married to a Polish girl, raise
  9. 0:15[music] his kids as Christians and he
  10. 0:17told me do not ever ever let them in. I
  11. 0:20asked him who? He said Syrians. And I
  12. 0:22said what do you mean you're Syrian? He
  13. 0:23said but the difference between me and
  14. 0:25them [music] is that I'm educated, I
  15. 0:27brought money, I pay taxes, I I respect
  16. 0:29culture and there are people from the
  17. 0:31desert.
  18. 0:31>> On the Europe front is do you see any
  19. 0:34will [music] to do that in other
  20. 0:35countries?
  21. 0:36>> Your liberals, your Democrats are
  22. 0:37communists.
  23. 0:38>> Right.
  24. 0:38>> And now I can hear Bernie Sanders,
  25. 0:39[music] AOC and all these lunatics. It
  26. 0:42doesn't matter if they call themselves
  27. 0:43Democrats, Social Democrats, Socialists,
  28. 0:46they are communists. The lowest
  29. 0:48unemployment in European Union, Poland.
  30. 0:50Highest GDP after [music] COVID, Poland.
  31. 0:51Zero terrorist attacks. And why? Because
  32. 0:54when this madness started in 2015, we
  33. 0:57stopped them. We did not let them in. Be
  34. 0:59like Poland or you will die.
  35. 1:00>> Do you think Donald Trump would really
  36. 1:02do all the [music] things that you would
  37. 1:04want him to do that you think that the
  38. 1:06Europeans need to do?
  39. 1:12>> [music]
  40. 1:16>> All right, I'm Dave Rubin. This is The
  41. 1:17Rubin Report and joining me in studio
  42. 1:19today is a former two-time member of
  43. 1:21Polish Parliament, now two-time member
  44. 1:24of European Parliament and
  45. 1:26two-time returning guest to The Rubin
  46. 1:28Report.
  47. 1:28>> That is correct.
  48. 1:30>> Pleasure to Pleasure to be here. Thank
  49. 1:31you for having me and this is just a
  50. 1:33beginning.
  51. 1:34>> This is just
  52. 1:34>> I'm I'm just starting.
  53. 1:36>> Meaning you're moving to Florida cuz
  54. 1:38that's where all freedom-loving people
  55. 1:39end, you know.
  56. 1:40>> I love Florida, but the heat
  57. 1:42>> [laughter]
  58. 1:42>> is too much. I mean, people of Florida,
  59. 1:44how can you live here? I mean, come on.
  60. 1:46>> You walked in here. Dripping
  61. 1:50sweaty. It's extremely hot. It's always
  62. 1:52hot this time of year. It's humid. I get
  63. 1:54it. And the first thing I asked you was
  64. 1:55how does the weather in Krakow this time
  65. 1:57of year compare
  66. 1:58>> I think it's perfect. We've got proper
  67. 1:59seasons actually. So, uh beginning of
  68. 2:02autumn it's beautiful because you still
  69. 2:04have a sun, not much rain. You don't
  70. 2:06have the sea.
  71. 2:07>> [laughter]
  72. 2:07>> Yes.
  73. 2:09It's hard, but I love Florida.
  74. 2:10Especially people here. It's beautiful.
  75. 2:12Beautiful.
  76. 2:12>> Yeah. Well, I'm glad to be sitting down
  77. 2:14with you again. Last time we did this I
  78. 2:15think was it our Can not the last one,
  79. 2:17but probably probably about a year and a
  80. 2:18half ago in London. You've been one of
  81. 2:20the leading voices out of Europe related
  82. 2:22particularly to borders not only for
  83. 2:24your own country, but really for all of
  84. 2:25the European Union and and the mass
  85. 2:27migration problem. So, we'll get into
  86. 2:29all of that, but I thought you walked in
  87. 2:30with this hat and I said, "Guys, let's
  88. 2:32let's [laughter] put this on set."
  89. 2:34Because if you would have said to people
  90. 2:35to the if you would have said to the
  91. 2:36average American 20 years ago
  92. 2:39"Be like Poland. Here's a hat." They're
  93. 2:41just going to come up with 20 Polish
  94. 2:43jokes. Or I would have been like, "Ah,
  95. 2:45when I was in Brooklyn and Greenpoint a
  96. 2:47lot of Polish people over there. Okay,
  97. 2:48you can get some good kielbasa." But But
  98. 2:50now who's laughing? And I And I think
  99. 2:52that's an interesting place to start.
  100. 2:53You guys are doing something right that
  101. 2:56most of the world has forgotten.
  102. 2:57>> True. Well, first of all, when you look
  103. 3:00at the data and I'm I'm trying to repeat
  104. 3:02that every single time because it's not
  105. 3:04changed. It's It's even better actually.
  106. 3:06The lowest unemployment in European
  107. 3:08Union, Poland. Highest GDP after COVID,
  108. 3:11Poland. Lowest rate of rapes, Poland.
  109. 3:14Zero terrorist attacks. Always these
  110. 3:17four pillars. Every single time for
  111. 3:19years.
  112. 3:20I'm trying to repeat it and remind it.
  113. 3:23And why? Because when
  114. 3:25this madness started in 2015, we stopped
  115. 3:28them. We did not let them in. So, be
  116. 3:30like Poland. It's not just a hat. It's
  117. 3:32not just a merch. I'm trying to send a
  118. 3:35message. So, whenever I go I I take this
  119. 3:39hat with me because I'm proud. Because
  120. 3:42we are an example. Our conservative
  121. 3:44government is an example how to deal
  122. 3:46with the problems. Because the main the
  123. 3:49root of the problem
  124. 3:50is
  125. 3:51and I must say that, not migration
  126. 3:53itself, but Islamization. It's a fact.
  127. 3:56So, because Poland is the safest place
  128. 4:00in European Union. One of the safest
  129. 4:02places on Earth at the moment. And it's
  130. 4:04not my political opinion, everyone can
  131. 4:06check that on
  132. 4:08on internet. It's Eurostat official
  133. 4:10data.
  134. 4:11Because of that, many investors are very
  135. 4:13happy to come. Tourism is just booming.
  136. 4:17And everyone is like, I mean, everyone,
  137. 4:18many people are sending me messages,
  138. 4:20when do you start your own tourist
  139. 4:21company? Because everyone's like, why do
  140. 4:23you always say,
  141. 4:25because why do you always, you know,
  142. 4:26repeat be like Poland? Because I'm
  143. 4:28proud.
  144. 4:29I'm proud of Copernicus. I'm proud of
  145. 4:32Chopin. I'm proud of King Sobieski. I'm
  146. 4:35proud of John Paul the Second. I'm proud
  147. 4:38of our wall at the border. I'm I'm I'm
  148. 4:42I'm so proud of Poland, thousand years
  149. 4:45history throughout the ages. And I'm so
  150. 4:48proud. And I am a politician,
  151. 4:51representative at this moment of history
  152. 4:54of humanity, not only Europeans. So,
  153. 4:58when someone will ask me, what did you
  154. 4:59do for Poland? I will say, I made it
  155. 5:03safe.
  156. 5:04And I brought people
  157. 5:06to Poland as a tourist, and I made them
  158. 5:09jealous.
  159. 5:10>> You know, it's so interesting because
  160. 5:11obviously I talk to politicians from all
  161. 5:13over the world, but particularly I find
  162. 5:14in Europe, they'll give me some version
  163. 5:16of I'm proud of my country, and they
  164. 5:18talk about the past, but they're not
  165. 5:19proud of what's going on now. You have a
  166. 5:22nice Right, you have a nice version of
  167. 5:24that, right? And that's not to say
  168. 5:25Poland has had a complex history, too,
  169. 5:27and all that. So, so you mentioned 2015
  170. 5:30when this all went crazy related to
  171. 5:31immigration. What is it that you were in
  172. 5:33government at the time, were you?
  173. 5:34>> Yeah, that's that's that's our
  174. 5:36government.
  175. 5:36>> Yeah, but no, but were you you were in
  176. 5:37government personally, right? So, so
  177. 5:39what is it that the Polish government
  178. 5:41saw that somehow the rest of the EU
  179. 5:44seemed not to see?
  180. 5:46Well, first of all, it's not about what
  181. 5:49we've seen, but it's about our
  182. 5:51experience. First of all,
  183. 5:54as I mentioned, Poland is thousand years
  184. 5:56history.
  185. 5:57We've been partitioned, I mentioned it
  186. 6:00during our first conversation 123 years
  187. 6:04of non-existence.
  188. 6:05Russia and Germany
  189. 6:07>> Yeah.
  190. 6:07>> took over.
  191. 6:09We know what it means to be taken over.
  192. 6:12123
  193. 6:14years of non-existence on the map and we
  194. 6:17survived. Not only that,
  195. 6:20after partitions, we had a terrible
  196. 6:22World War II. 6 million Poles killed.
  197. 6:25All the elite killed. Professors,
  198. 6:29priests, musicians. This is what we
  199. 6:32lost.
  200. 6:34Then we had nearly 70 years of
  201. 6:37communism. We've been taken over after
  202. 6:39the war by Soviet Russia. So, we know
  203. 6:43when
  204. 6:44this kind of things are coming, because
  205. 6:46of our experience, we know what might
  206. 6:48happen. So, when Germany started this
  207. 6:51madness of illegal migration, cheap
  208. 6:52labor actually,
  209. 6:54we said, "No. We're not going to let
  210. 6:56them in. We are Christian country. We
  211. 6:59are very devoted Catholics. We do not
  212. 7:02want enrichment in Poland. We are very
  213. 7:05happy as rich as we are." And everyone
  214. 7:07was like, "Oh, but you need the you
  215. 7:08know, your birth rate is going down. You
  216. 7:10need people to No.
  217. 7:12We don't need that. We want to be alive.
  218. 7:14Maybe that not as much not not as rich
  219. 7:17as others, but alive.
  220. 7:19So, we decided, "Okay, the GBT will be
  221. 7:23going up slower. They will not be a
  222. 7:25backward, but it's going to be a bit
  223. 7:26slower, but we are going to be safe."
  224. 7:30And what happened? It's go It's booming
  225. 7:32now. Because of our decisions in 2015.
  226. 7:36So,
  227. 7:38as you know, one of our soldiers was
  228. 7:40killed with a spear. They made it
  229. 7:43uh they they they killed him through the
  230. 7:45vents through the vents and uh our
  231. 7:47government, our parliament actually, all
  232. 7:50political parties changed the law
  233. 7:53that we can use live bullets now. So,
  234. 7:55you know what we're doing now?
  235. 7:57We shoot them.
  236. 7:58>> If you're trying
  237. 7:59>> If you're trying to cross a border and
  238. 8:02harm any of our soldiers, you will be
  239. 8:04dead. This is what I said in the
  240. 8:06parliament. I said, do not come to the
  241. 8:08Polish border because you will be dead,
  242. 8:10shot dead.
  243. 8:12It's not a joke.
  244. 8:13>> Yeah.
  245. 8:13>> So, we are we are taking safety security
  246. 8:17very very seriously. Because we know
  247. 8:20that this is a war. When it started, we
  248. 8:23already we we were very clear. This is
  249. 8:27um this is a war. Hybrid war, but a war.
  250. 8:30We knew that many of them were coming
  251. 8:32from Russia with the tourist visas. They
  252. 8:35were brought to Belarus and then they
  253. 8:37were coming to our border. They were
  254. 8:38trying to kill our soldiers. We changed
  255. 8:41the law in 3 days and we shoot them now.
  256. 8:44If there is a need, we use live bullets.
  257. 8:46>> What kind of pushback do you get from
  258. 8:49I suppose we could call it the left in
  259. 8:51your country. I mean I Yeah, it's the
  260. 8:53left. So,
  261. 8:54what kind of internal pushback do you
  262. 8:56get on that? Cuz when I hear you say
  263. 8:57that, to me I the thing I always say on
  264. 8:59the show is if everyone in Europe, in
  265. 9:00Germany, in Spain, in France, all these
  266. 9:02countries, if they just had a time
  267. 9:03machine and could go back 15, 20 years,
  268. 9:05everyone would do it that way.
  269. 9:07>> Of course.
  270. 9:07>> Yeah.
  271. 9:07>> The
  272. 9:08obviously we do have a left like every
  273. 9:10like every country. They they cry a lot.
  274. 9:13They cry loud. We don't give a
  275. 9:15>> [laughter]
  276. 9:15>> Well, as simple as that. I'm serious. I
  277. 9:17mean, they do cry a lot. They they they
  278. 9:20they tried to even help them. They were
  279. 9:21running with the pizzas to the border to
  280. 9:23you know to help the poor people. Yeah,
  281. 9:25of course. We've got our own AOC. We've
  282. 9:28got our own
  283. 9:30You want to know more?
  284. 9:30>> What type of political power do they
  285. 9:32have? They're They're in opposition
  286. 9:34obviously. [clears throat]
  287. 9:34>> They They were in the opposition at that
  288. 9:36time.
  289. 9:36>> Yeah.
  290. 9:37>> So, so we didn't care. And obviously
  291. 9:40they knew that we are right because what
  292. 9:42is happening now in Poland and be like
  293. 9:43Poland. You see, now the liberals are
  294. 9:45taking the the the they're creating a
  295. 9:48government in Poland, but I'm still very
  296. 9:51proud to say be like Poland because if
  297. 9:53we would not make these decisions in
  298. 9:552015, if we would not build the wall, if
  299. 9:58we would not create this atmosphere, do
  300. 10:00not come or you will die,
  301. 10:02then they will be here. They will be in
  302. 10:04Poland. So, what we did we
  303. 10:06>> your liberal party is not purely
  304. 10:08leftist.
  305. 10:09>> Oh, it's not the same left. Right. Of
  306. 10:11course. Of course. It's
  307. 10:13>> No, no, [clears throat] no, no. I mean,
  308. 10:14your your liberals, your democrats are
  309. 10:16communists.
  310. 10:16>> Right. Right.
  311. 10:18>> I mean I mean
  312. 10:19>> Sorry.
  313. 10:19>> I mean I I feel sorry for you. That's
  314. 10:21why I'm starting my job on on on this
  315. 10:23university I mentioned to you before we
  316. 10:24started. Florida International
  317. 10:26University and I'm going to I'm going to
  318. 10:29I'm going to do lectures on communism in
  319. 10:30the past, present, and future.
  320. 10:32Because what I think
  321. 10:34my personal experience is very important
  322. 10:37to share it. It's going to be more like
  323. 10:39testimony rather than teaching because I
  324. 10:41was born in 1979. I remember communism.
  325. 10:44I remember being a 6-year-old kid in a
  326. 10:46queue queuing for all night to get
  327. 10:48shoes. I didn't get them. It wasn't
  328. 10:50enough. It was like Venezuela and Cuba.
  329. 10:53I experienced communism. I know what
  330. 10:55communism is. And now I can hear Bernie
  331. 10:57Sanders, AOC, and all these lunatics.
  332. 11:00They are communists.
  333. 11:02It doesn't matter if they call
  334. 11:03themselves democrats, social democrats,
  335. 11:06socialists. They are communists.
  336. 11:08>> there is any meaningful distinction
  337. 11:10beyond that they have different names
  338. 11:11for it because they kind of slow roll
  339. 11:12you with the name?
  340. 11:13>> The action the actions they're taking. I
  341. 11:15mean,
  342. 11:17like they want to abolish an army, a
  343. 11:20police.
  344. 11:21They want to destroy this country.
  345. 11:23>> Open the borders.
  346. 11:24>> Obviously. That's obvious. So So if you
  347. 11:26if you do not want public services, if
  348. 11:28you don't want if you do not want
  349. 11:30an army, police, you want open borders,
  350. 11:32there's no country. You've got just
  351. 11:34land. Everyone can go and and come and
  352. 11:37go do whatever. There's no
  353. 11:40To me
  354. 11:41it's a pure communism because
  355. 11:45number one, they want to take power,
  356. 11:47full power. They do not want to share
  357. 11:49power.
  358. 11:50That's number one. Number two, they want
  359. 11:52to destroy this country in the name of
  360. 11:54power because everyone knows that the
  361. 11:56great replacement, we saw that couple
  362. 11:59days ago in Sweden.
  363. 12:01Um the great replacement pays very well
  364. 12:04with the votes for left. Everyone knows
  365. 12:06that. We keep repeating it. Nobody does
  366. 12:08anything about it. 75%
  367. 12:11no-go zones voted for left in Sweden and
  368. 12:14they took over. So, they don't care
  369. 12:17about their country. They don't care
  370. 12:19about future generations. They are
  371. 12:20hedonists. They think about themselves.
  372. 12:23Let's take your power now. Whatever
  373. 12:24happened in 20, 30 years, I don't care.
  374. 12:26They don't even care about their own
  375. 12:27children and grandchildren. That is the
  376. 12:30problem. So, the difference between us,
  377. 12:32Republicans, conservatives, right wing,
  378. 12:36is
  379. 12:37to think about next generations and
  380. 12:39leave the country better than when you
  381. 12:42started to live in this country. That is
  382. 12:43the difference. They don't care. They've
  383. 12:45got these beautiful houses.
  384. 12:47It's closed. Nobody No one can get in.
  385. 12:49They don't like police. But, they've got
  386. 12:51private securities. That's the
  387. 12:53difference. So, So, it's, you know,
  388. 12:55sometimes when
  389. 12:59I do interviews,
  390. 13:01I'm just thinking, it's so obvious. I
  391. 13:02shouldn't even I shouldn't [laughter]
  392. 13:04even talk about it. It's obvious like a
  393. 13:06green and red light, like a sun
  394. 13:09and a moon. It's so obvious for me, for
  395. 13:12us, for Poles. It's so obvious. It's
  396. 13:15also interesting because the policy of
  397. 13:16someone approaching the border will be
  398. 13:18shot doesn't mean you have to shoot
  399. 13:20people relentlessly. Once you send that
  400. 13:22signal out, less people show up. It's
  401. 13:24like when we were blowing up those narco
  402. 13:26boats coming from Venezuela. Suddenly,
  403. 13:28less boats started coming. Exactly.
  404. 13:30Numbers drop because they know that we
  405. 13:32can, by the law, use live bullets.
  406. 13:34Obviously, we don't we don't shoot
  407. 13:35people because just we like it. We are
  408. 13:38not animals. We don't do that. But, we
  409. 13:41do not shoot people who are trying to
  410. 13:43break into our country because we hate
  411. 13:44them. We do it because we love those in
  412. 13:47our homes. Because we do it out of love.
  413. 13:50So, my message, if I may, my message
  414. 13:53again,
  415. 13:55do not come to the Polish border or you
  416. 13:57will be dead. Shot dead. Do not come to
  417. 14:01the Polish border. I'm very clear for
  418. 14:03years. If you are coming,
  419. 14:05it's it's it's your own risk. Do not cry
  420. 14:08over that. Do not tell me that you were
  421. 14:10shot, you were pushed back, whatever,
  422. 14:11whatever. Do not come. There's no
  423. 14:13problem.
  424. 14:14Go to Qatar, there is no problem with
  425. 14:17that. They speak Arabic.
  426. 14:18>> [laughter]
  427. 14:19>> What is the problem? Why you don't go to
  428. 14:21>> sure Qatar is not letting these people
  429. 14:23wander in. They They want their slave
  430. 14:25laborers who they take their passports.
  431. 14:27>> was asking why why Egypt is not Why they
  432. 14:29close their border? Why they build a
  433. 14:30wall?
  434. 14:31>> Very strange they don't open the door to
  435. 14:32Gaza, isn't it?
  436. 14:33>> and others, they don't want them. You
  437. 14:35know why? Because one of my friends,
  438. 14:38the guy I know, he came to Poland 30
  439. 14:40years ago from Syria. Uh and I I give
  440. 14:43this example every single time. He came
  441. 14:45to Poland 30 years ago, he get married a
  442. 14:47Polish girl, raised his kids as
  443. 14:49Christians, and he told me,
  444. 14:51"Do not ever
  445. 14:52>> [clears throat]
  446. 14:52>> ever let them in." I mean, who? I asked
  447. 14:55him, "Who?" He said, "Syrians." And I
  448. 14:57said, "What do you mean? You're Syrian."
  449. 14:59He said, "But the difference between me
  450. 15:00and them is that I'm educated, I brought
  451. 15:03money, I paid taxes, I I respect culture
  452. 15:06Christian culture, and they are people
  453. 15:08from the desert.
  454. 15:10They They do not see the different
  455. 15:11between good and evil.
  456. 15:13And you will You will be dead," he said
  457. 15:16to me. "Do not let them in." Syrian guy
  458. 15:19who's for 30 years in Poland
  459. 15:22told me, "Do not let them in." So, if
  460. 15:24they want to go, let them go to any
  461. 15:26Arabic country. And it's the same thing
  462. 15:28with with the with the cultural
  463. 15:31enrichment. I was very clear and I said,
  464. 15:33"Until Poland
  465. 15:35will not be able to build a cathedral in
  466. 15:38Qatar, there will not be even a one
  467. 15:40mosque."
  468. 15:41Is it fair?
  469. 15:42I think it's
  470. 15:43>> It's fair. It's fair to me. Yeah.
  471. 15:44>> Okay, you want to one mosque, we're
  472. 15:45going to get one cathedral. If not,
  473. 15:47there's no mosques in Poland. I mean,
  474. 15:49not new mosque. We've got Tatars, we've
  475. 15:50got beautiful Muslims who are in Poland
  476. 15:52for over 400 years who fought for They
  477. 15:55fought for Poland, but we do not want
  478. 15:57jihadists. We do not We're not going to
  479. 15:59let them in. And that's why they are
  480. 16:01calling me Islamophobe. I don't have a
  481. 16:03phobia. Phobia is irrational fear.
  482. 16:07My fear [clears throat] is rational. My
  483. 16:09um my mom's and sister fear is rational.
  484. 16:13It's based on what is happening in in
  485. 16:15Europe. So, it's not Islamophobia,
  486. 16:18it's a rational fear on what they are
  487. 16:20doing.
  488. 16:21>> When you when you wander through the
  489. 16:23offices of the European Parliament and
  490. 16:25you're wandering through Brussels and
  491. 16:27all of that stuff and you're listening
  492. 16:29to these guys have their wine and fancy
  493. 16:31meals and talk about all this stuff.
  494. 16:33Are they subtly agreeing with you cuz I
  495. 16:35cannot imagine they all enjoy giving
  496. 16:37their countries away?
  497. 16:39>> They do, but they would never agree.
  498. 16:41They would never they would never agree
  499. 16:43in public. What they do when when we
  500. 16:45have a conversation, I know some of
  501. 16:46them.
  502. 16:47They're not my friends, but as we travel
  503. 16:49together, we on the plane together on
  504. 16:51the April, we spend quite a lot of time
  505. 16:53with together and whenever I ask them,
  506. 16:56"Don't you think you're destroying this
  507. 16:57country, this this continent?" They were
  508. 16:59like,
  509. 17:01"You're right."
  510. 17:03But, there is some something is driving
  511. 17:07them to do so.
  512. 17:09And
  513. 17:10it's not about power only. I think many
  514. 17:13of them are owned.
  515. 17:15I told you we had this conversation like
  516. 17:18nearly 2 years ago.
  517. 17:20>> Yeah.
  518. 17:21>> Nobody owns me.
  519. 17:23I can say whatever I want. I don't care.
  520. 17:25And I think many of them are uh
  521. 17:29dependent on
  522. 17:31external powers.
  523. 17:32>> So, when you say external powers, I mean
  524. 17:33obviously Qatar is throwing all sorts of
  525. 17:35money at all this
  526. 17:36>> Well, if vice president if vice
  527. 17:37president of European Parliament was
  528. 17:40caught with two suitcases full of cash.
  529. 17:42It's it's about 15 million euros.
  530. 17:45Uh she was given she she bought a
  531. 17:47private island and
  532. 17:49and she was visiting Qatar many times
  533. 17:52and she was voting in the committee
  534. 17:54where she wasn't even a member and she
  535. 17:56was doing things for Qatar and she was
  536. 17:57arrested vice president obviously
  537. 17:59socialist.
  538. 18:01What can you expect?
  539. 18:03What can you expect? Qatar is spending
  540. 18:07hundreds of millions to buy politicians
  541. 18:11around the world, especially in European
  542. 18:13Parliament. Not me.
  543. 18:15>> They're buying influencers, too.
  544. 18:17>> Of course.
  545. 18:17>> That's a secondary issue, but that's
  546. 18:19true, too.
  547. 18:19>> This is That's why I think um
  548. 18:22we can be right, we can win wars on the
  549. 18:25ground, we are losing internet.
  550. 18:27Thank God for your podcast. Thank God
  551. 18:29that I can say whatever I want. You
  552. 18:30never interrupt, you never
  553. 18:33We had this conversation before we
  554. 18:34started.
  555. 18:35That I don't want to even know what's
  556. 18:37your questions.
  557. 18:38>> All right.
  558. 18:39>> You know, because I'm going to say
  559. 18:40whatever I want anyway.
  560. 18:42And every every podcast I do or an
  561. 18:45interview, I don't want to know what
  562. 18:47what the questions are. I mean, I don't
  563. 18:48care because nobody owns me. And they
  564. 18:51can call me Islamophobe, fascist. I
  565. 18:54don't care. This is what I said to Katie
  566. 18:55Newman in 2018
  567. 18:5718 channel 4. You can call me a pink
  568. 19:00elephant. It's just a word. And my mom,
  569. 19:02my sister, my future wife are safe
  570. 19:04because of my work.
  571. 19:06This is what we did in a parliament. We
  572. 19:08asked them to use live bullets, to be
  573. 19:10brave, to fight for our country. Because
  574. 19:12this is our home, right? Okay, you got a
  575. 19:15home with four or six people. It's 40
  576. 19:16million people in our home. And we're
  577. 19:18going to protect it. And if someone
  578. 19:20needs to be killed, he's going to be
  579. 19:21killed.
  580. 19:22Simple as that.
  581. 19:23>> What kind of pushback do you get does
  582. 19:26Poland get from the EU? So I've had a
  583. 19:29lot of these types of conversations.
  584. 19:30I've been to Hungary several times and I
  585. 19:31definitely want to come to Poland. So we
  586. 19:33>> Come visit me.
  587. 19:34That would be great. We can do a report
  588. 19:35by the border. You will see with your
  589. 19:38own eyes how beautiful this this wall
  590. 19:40is, how safe it is. So once you do it,
  591. 19:42yeah, let's do it together.
  592. 19:43>> absolutely will do that. I've had this
  593. 19:45type of conversation usually from a
  594. 19:47Hungarian perspective in that part of
  595. 19:49your world and I've been to see back in
  596. 19:50Hungary and a few things like that. Now
  597. 19:52Hungary obviously seems to be at least
  598. 19:53slightly going in the other direction
  599. 19:55right now. It's a little It's a little
  600. 19:57It's not It's not a major difference.
  601. 19:58Not maybe Okay, so all right, that's
  602. 20:00nice to hear.
  603. 20:01Um but I know a lot about the pushback
  604. 20:03that they were getting and you know,
  605. 20:04that it was a million a million euro
  606. 20:06fine a day basically keep your border.
  607. 20:08So you have the same exact
  608. 20:09>> We had 22,000 euros per person because
  609. 20:11as you know
  610. 20:13this gen geniuses from European Union,
  611. 20:15they created a problem.
  612. 20:17I mean, Germans. They invited them
  613. 20:19willkommen willkommen politics.
  614. 20:21I
  615. 20:22looking for a cheap labor. They found
  616. 20:24out okay, they don't want to work, they
  617. 20:25don't want to learn language. They
  618. 20:27Sometimes they are blowing themselves up
  619. 20:28with as a terrorist. They they are
  620. 20:30using explosive. They they rape, they
  621. 20:32kill, they they they behead people
  622. 20:34actually.
  623. 20:36So, they said okay, so we've got a
  624. 20:37problem now in Germany, well in in
  625. 20:40European Union. So, let's spread them
  626. 20:42around as a European solidarity. We're
  627. 20:45going to have this quota system and
  628. 20:47according to your population, you're
  629. 20:48going to take numbers. We're going to
  630. 20:50take you how many you have to take and
  631. 20:51that's it.
  632. 20:53And what we said?
  633. 20:55Can I swear?
  634. 20:56>> Yeah, oh yeah.
  635. 20:57off.
  636. 20:58>> [laughter]
  637. 20:59>> We said off.
  638. 21:01And we did not let anyone in. They find
  639. 21:03us 22,000 euro per person.
  640. 21:06millions
  641. 21:06>> So they estimated by population how many
  642. 21:09they have to
  643. 21:09>> yeah. Yeah, so they get some quota
  644. 21:13and they ask us to um
  645. 21:15uh to pay 22,000 euros per person. We
  646. 21:18did. We did and look at us now.
  647. 21:20>> Right.
  648. 21:21>> Be like Poland. And it's not like we
  649. 21:23paid this money. They deducted it from
  650. 21:26general budget actually.
  651. 21:28>> [snorts]
  652. 21:28>> But we didn't get this money. So, we
  653. 21:29paid So so we paid for it. And it was
  654. 21:32better
  655. 21:33to pay money, be alive, safe, happy,
  656. 21:37smiled. When you come to Poland, you
  657. 21:40will not believe. What I do now because
  658. 21:42I invite everyone to Poland, everyone.
  659. 21:44When I do podcast reports,
  660. 21:46I'm asking people who were I had a the
  661. 21:48guy from Japan recently.
  662. 21:51He came from Japan asking you to do a
  663. 21:52tour and I and I put the map
  664. 21:55on the table and asked and I told him,
  665. 21:57"Pick up the place. Not me, you. Pick up
  666. 21:59the place. We're going to go there.
  667. 22:00You're going to film it."
  668. 22:02He picked up the places. He filmed it.
  669. 22:03He was crying. He switched off the
  670. 22:05camera and he was crying.
  671. 22:06I said, "Why are you crying?" He says,
  672. 22:08"I want Japan to be the same."
  673. 22:09>> Mhm.
  674. 22:10>> And I said, "Jap I thought Japan is
  675. 22:12okay. You've got a beautiful prime
  676. 22:13minister now. You have a" He said,
  677. 22:14"Yeah, yeah. She's okay, but we need
  678. 22:17time to clean the whole thing. It's it's
  679. 22:19a huge" He was very emotional actually.
  680. 22:21>> Right. If you think of a place like
  681. 22:22Japan can't do it. They're obviously
  682. 22:24doing better and they're you know
  683. 22:26>> Of course not. They didn't have
  684. 22:27>> She's the new prime minister is better.
  685. 22:28But the fact that they have a problem
  686. 22:30>> It's It's a global problem.
  687. 22:32>> beyond imagination. Yeah.
  688. 22:33>> This is why when I said that this
  689. 22:36process of illegal migration it's not
  690. 22:39about poor people looking for a better
  691. 22:41life, but this is actual hijra, Arabic
  692. 22:44term of demographic war. This is not
  693. 22:46about poor people. Look at Look at the
  694. 22:49Spain now. The guys with Balenciaga
  695. 22:51t-shirts with the iPhones
  696. 22:53>> Yeah.
  697. 22:53>> They are They are asked questions.
  698. 22:55>> Yeah. What What are you doing in here?
  699. 22:56I'm looking for a better life.
  700. 22:58>> No women?
  701. 22:59>> Yeah.
  702. 22:59>> No kids?
  703. 23:00>> Just just force
  704. 23:03like in their 20s
  705. 23:05military age
  706. 23:07thousands like 80,000 during the
  707. 23:10weekend. It's organized. It's a hijra.
  708. 23:13It's a It's a demographic war. So if we
  709. 23:16will not realize that this is a war, if
  710. 23:18we will not realize that we have to
  711. 23:20react and the first thing is
  712. 23:23in my opinion from what I see, we have
  713. 23:25to change our language.
  714. 23:28We have to be brave to call things as
  715. 23:30they are. And um
  716. 23:32if someone is calling me Islamophobe
  717. 23:35fascist, I don't give a single We
  718. 23:37have to call it as it is because the
  719. 23:39main problem is still political
  720. 23:42correctness.
  721. 23:44I'm not correct in any way.
  722. 23:45>> So what would you do if you were a
  723. 23:47member of parliament, let's say in
  724. 23:49Germany right now? Or if you were the
  725. 23:50prime minister of Germany, you know, or
  726. 23:52or any of these countries?
  727. 23:53>> Mhm.
  728. 23:54>> Let's say they can all close their
  729. 23:55borders tomorrow cuz the migration in
  730. 23:58has at least slowed at this point,
  731. 23:59right? So okay, let's say you close your
  732. 24:01borders tomorrow. You still have an
  733. 24:02in-house
  734. 24:04problem.
  735. 24:05>> Mhm.
  736. 24:05>> Do you think re-emigration or
  737. 24:07remigration, whatever they're calling
  738. 24:09it, do you think that there is any
  739. 24:10chance this is going to work? I mean
  740. 24:11you're going to really put soldiers Do
  741. 24:12you think any of these countries will do
  742. 24:14it?
  743. 24:14>> Give me 3
  744. 24:14>> versus what you will do.
  745. 24:16>> Give me 3 days.
  746. 24:173 days the the whole problem will be
  747. 24:19solved. We're going to ask for 100 747
  748. 24:22at the airport. We're going to arrest
  749. 24:24them. We're going to transport them. And
  750. 24:26we're going to send them to Nigeria,
  751. 24:27Qatar, and other places. If they will
  752. 24:29not take them, we're going to leave them
  753. 24:31where they are. We're going to leave
  754. 24:32them
  755. 24:34in the in the in the countries where the
  756. 24:35the plane is going to go. We're going to
  757. 24:37cut off all the contracts. We're going
  758. 24:38to start with the sanctions, and that's
  759. 24:40it. Well, El Salvador is doing good with
  760. 24:43with the gang members. It was solved in
  761. 24:451 month.
  762. 24:47The beautiful, great, beautiful
  763. 24:50prison was built. Everyone is there. And
  764. 24:53that's it. There is no problem at all.
  765. 24:56You have to have a man
  766. 24:59who's ready to do things which are
  767. 25:02unimaginable for many politicians.
  768. 25:04>> Right. So, that really is the question.
  769. 25:06Do you think
  770. 25:06>> If we can organize if we can organize
  771. 25:09Super Bowl,
  772. 25:10right? If we can organize like millions
  773. 25:13of people for pilgrimages of John Paul
  774. 25:15II, we can organize millions
  775. 25:18remigrations for millions in 3 days.
  776. 25:20We need political power. We need
  777. 25:22political um We need political strength
  778. 25:26and people who are not afraid. I would
  779. 25:27organize it. I mean, I'm in the European
  780. 25:29Parliament. I'm I'm making really good
  781. 25:31money. I mean, we making really good
  782. 25:32money. And I said publicly sometime ago
  783. 25:35that I'm ready to be back
  784. 25:37next year because we got election in
  785. 25:38Poland
  786. 25:40as as a secretary of deportation.
  787. 25:43I would leave my seat in European
  788. 25:44Parliament, and I will organize it. And
  789. 25:46I will show the whole world how to do
  790. 25:47it. Give me 3 days.
  791. 25:49>> But you don't need to do much in Poland.
  792. 25:51>> No. But, we still have a problem.
  793. 25:53>> Just to model it.
  794. 25:54>> Yeah. Just to show them how you how you
  795. 25:56deal with it. Like
  796. 25:59it's not a problem to order pizza, order
  797. 26:02food, and check the papers.
  798. 26:04Not a problem at all. You put 200 agents
  799. 26:07calling for a pizza. You're asking them
  800. 26:09to come with delivery. You check the
  801. 26:11papers. That's it. I mean, there's
  802. 26:13hundreds of ways to get over it. But,
  803. 26:17the most important I'm That's a joke,
  804. 26:18obviously. You know what I meant. I'm
  805. 26:20I'm being silly now, but you can
  806. 26:22organize it with with the structure of
  807. 26:24your country. You can organize
  808. 26:26the whole process, but there must be a
  809. 26:28decision. Milei is doing good. El El
  810. 26:31Salvador is doing good. Brazil will do
  811. 26:34the same. I had this conversation with
  812. 26:35>> Right. South America, Latin America seem
  813. 26:38to be They all seem to be shifting to
  814. 26:39right at the moment.
  815. 26:40>> Yes.
  816. 26:40>> Brazil is a little bizarre.
  817. 26:42Um hopefully they'll come around and
  818. 26:44we'll see what happens.
  819. 26:44>> But I I I I still I I really hope that
  820. 26:46um
  821. 26:47Flávio Bolsonaro is going to win. Uh I
  822. 26:49mean, that would be He promised to build
  823. 26:51the same prison as El Salvador because
  824. 26:54they got a problem with the gangs and
  825. 26:55and and and and the crime in general.
  826. 26:57So, so I think he's going to win.
  827. 26:58>> So, so let's say they're basically okay.
  828. 27:00But [clears throat] now but but on the
  829. 27:01Europe front is Do you see any will to
  830. 27:04do that in other countries? I mean, the
  831. 27:06AfD just got a got some nice results
  832. 27:08this past week. Like, if they were to
  833. 27:10come to power, do you think Weidel and
  834. 27:13uh the other guy whose name I'm blanking
  835. 27:15on, the the partner Do you Do you think
  836. 27:16they have a chance to actually do
  837. 27:18something?
  838. 27:19>> Well,
  839. 27:19what I hear from Great Britain
  840. 27:22what I hear from Rupert Lowe, what I
  841. 27:24hear from even from Nigel sometimes,
  842. 27:27uh they are saying they're going to do
  843. 27:29it.
  844. 27:30I'm very happy and I'm That's my
  845. 27:32announcement, if I may. If you need any
  846. 27:34consultation with this job, I'll do it
  847. 27:36for free.
  848. 27:37>> [laughter]
  849. 27:37>> I'm serious. I will do it for free. As a
  850. 27:40European, as a Christian, I'll do it for
  851. 27:42free. Just let me do it. We've got our
  852. 27:44election in a year. We do not have such
  853. 27:46a big problem because as I said, our
  854. 27:47decisions were right and everyone is
  855. 27:49like, "How can I be like Poland?" Do you
  856. 27:50know how many messages I'm getting every
  857. 27:52single day? How can I
  858. 27:54>> flee
  859. 27:55>> believe it.
  860. 27:55>> to Poland. It's not How can I move to
  861. 27:58Poland? They are using a specific word.
  862. 28:01How can I flee to Poland? And we are
  863. 28:04pearl of Europe now. We've got our
  864. 28:06problems, obviously. We are not
  865. 28:08laboratory that there is no problems at
  866. 28:10all. But when you're going to come,
  867. 28:11you're going to see how safe, clean,
  868. 28:14there's no piece of paper on floor.
  869. 28:15>> No, I see videos all the time. You know,
  870. 28:17there's all these accounts that compare
  871. 28:19and contrast these different European
  872. 28:20countries and you see what's going on in
  873. 28:22Poland at parades where you don't need
  874. 28:24all of the protection and you don't need
  875. 28:26barriers everywhere.
  876. 28:27>> see a police guy with a with a with a
  877. 28:29with a shotgun. There's no need for
  878. 28:31that. Like, when I do these reports and
  879. 28:33interviews,
  880. 28:35I'm walking with the a with a with the
  881. 28:36guys coming over to Poland and they ask
  882. 28:38me, "Where's your security?" I don't
  883. 28:39have one.
  884. 28:41I don't need security.
  885. 28:42>> You'll be okay here in Florida, though.
  886. 28:44>> I mean,
  887. 28:45>> [laughter]
  888. 28:45>> but in Poland, like everyone is
  889. 28:46surprised. Like, whatever country
  890. 28:49they're coming from, they're like, "Our
  891. 28:50politicians are not able to walk around.
  892. 28:52Why?"
  893. 28:53Why? What did they do that people hate
  894. 28:56them?
  895. 28:57They're owned. They don't get They don't
  896. 28:59care. I do. Here, I don't need any
  897. 29:01security.
  898. 29:02>> What would you say to the average
  899. 29:05Republican in America right now?
  900. 29:06Obviously, we have a huge midterm
  901. 29:08election coming and if it goes the wrong
  902. 29:10way, Trump is done, in essence. They're
  903. 29:11going to impeach him and it's going to
  904. 29:13be done. So, you know, the 10-plus years
  905. 29:15of Trumpism really will start
  906. 29:17disintegrating overnight. What what
  907. 29:19would you say to the average Republican
  908. 29:21right now that's either
  909. 29:22running for re-election, trying to get
  910. 29:24in first time, or just the the nominal
  911. 29:26person that's trying to decide what to
  912. 29:28do?
  913. 29:28>> Be like Poland.
  914. 29:30Be brave.
  915. 29:31Say it as it is.
  916. 29:33Do not take money from anyone.
  917. 29:34Simple as that.
  918. 29:36If you're owned, you cannot do You can't
  919. 29:38make your own You cannot make your own
  920. 29:39decisions. Be brave.
  921. 29:42That's that's the only That's the only
  922. 29:44way.
  923. 29:45If they call you fascist, doesn't
  924. 29:47matter. If they call you Islamophobe,
  925. 29:49doesn't matter. You look what's what's
  926. 29:50happening in Texas and Michigan with
  927. 29:52these mosques. In Texas.
  928. 29:54>> I don't Texas one is not It's what's
  929. 29:55happening outside of Dallas.
  930. 29:56>> a madness. And everyone knows, based on
  931. 30:00our experience in Great Britain and hate
  932. 30:02preachers, that mosques are are used uh
  933. 30:05as a centers of terrorism. Everyone
  934. 30:07knows that and nobody does anything
  935. 30:09about it.
  936. 30:09>> Yeah. Did you see this video in New York
  937. 30:11where Mondaire went up and spoke and
  938. 30:14then he gets off stage and the Imam
  939. 30:15comes on and starts talking about death
  940. 30:17to infidels. And it's like, does is
  941. 30:20anyone
  942. 30:20>> And then he's laughing with AOC during
  943. 30:22the 9/11 memorial. It's It's It's
  944. 30:24disgusting.
  945. 30:26I cannot believe it happened in New York
  946. 30:28after 9/11. I'm I'm really surprised.
  947. 30:30But people of New York, I'm very sorry.
  948. 30:32I I I love many of you, but you're you
  949. 30:34to pay the price? He's a communist. What
  950. 30:37he was
  951. 30:38>> [snorts]
  952. 30:38>> The first thing he said he's going to
  953. 30:39lower taxes. The first thing he first
  954. 30:41decision he put the taxes up. The people
  955. 30:44they have to pay more for their
  956. 30:45apartments. It's a fact.
  957. 30:47>> Rent Rent is the highest it's ever been
  958. 30:49right now.
  959. 30:49>> Yeah. So uh
  960. 30:52I I think what what I'm going to be very
  961. 30:54much involved in midterms. There are
  962. 30:56three candidates I'm going to I'm going
  963. 31:00to endorse and work for. Like in
  964. 31:03Pennsylvania you've got over 800,000
  965. 31:05Polish diaspora. It's It's It's a lot
  966. 31:07when you have had to had it's it's a
  967. 31:08very important.
  968. 31:10So I'm [snorts] going to work uh
  969. 31:11I'll I'll try my best to uh to support
  970. 31:14Republicans. And And again people are
  971. 31:17asking why do you care about America?
  972. 31:18America uh
  973. 31:20>> [groaning]
  974. 31:21>> doesn't elect you. They're not electing
  975. 31:23you. Why you care? Because if America is
  976. 31:25weak, Europe is gone.
  977. 31:27>> Huh.
  978. 31:28>> It's a fact. I mean we can say we can
  979. 31:31say that we are country don't care about
  980. 31:32anyone else. But you know
  981. 31:35the world doesn't look like that. So I
  982. 31:36want strong America. I do not want
  983. 31:39communists. I'm going to be very much
  984. 31:40involved. I'm going to do this
  985. 31:42lectures on
  986. 31:44uh on communism. I'm trying to reach a
  987. 31:46young younger people students to
  988. 31:48challenge them to discuss about what
  989. 31:50communism is. Uh
  990. 31:52what what forms communism has now around
  991. 31:54the world and America. So
  992. 31:57there's a lot of work.
  993. 31:58Uh I'm proud
  994. 32:01I am the I am the one who
  995. 32:04who's fighting communists. But
  996. 32:08the reason I do what I do
  997. 32:11is very personal. I don't think I told
  998. 32:14you this story.
  999. 32:16When
  1000. 32:18Germans attacked
  1001. 32:20my grandfather obviously fought against
  1002. 32:21Germans.
  1003. 32:24When Soviet Russia took over
  1004. 32:27after 1945
  1005. 32:30my grandpa said no. The war did not end.
  1006. 32:33We've got new occupier.
  1007. 32:35We've got communists and Poland is not
  1008. 32:38free. I'm not going to stop fighting.
  1009. 32:40So, he became um
  1010. 32:44the guy in charge of underground army
  1011. 32:47fighting in the forests.
  1012. 32:49Outcast soldier.
  1013. 32:51He was 27.
  1014. 32:56And recently I I I found out that
  1015. 33:00the only safe place
  1016. 33:03they they had at the time, 27-year-old
  1017. 33:07was a cemetery and empty graves,
  1018. 33:10holes actually, not used yet.
  1019. 33:13This is where they slept after 1945 as a
  1020. 33:16soldiers. This is where he slept with
  1021. 33:18his soldiers.
  1022. 33:19He was under communist surveillance
  1023. 33:21until 1969.
  1024. 33:24My father was a founder of a solidarity
  1025. 33:26in my hometown.
  1026. 33:29My mom was spit on as a daughter of a
  1027. 33:31bandit
  1028. 33:33by the communists.
  1029. 33:35So, I decided I'm going to be a
  1030. 33:36prosecutor. And I'm going to put all the
  1031. 33:38communists to the jail for what they did
  1032. 33:40to my mom, spitting on her physically.
  1033. 33:43But I found out that
  1034. 33:4625 years ago
  1035. 33:48prosecutors in Poland they were actually
  1036. 33:49communists as well. So, I decided I'm
  1037. 33:51going to be a politician. I have to be
  1038. 33:53above them. I have to create law, not to
  1039. 33:55react by the law.
  1040. 33:58So, what I do is very personal to me. I
  1041. 34:01hate them.
  1042. 34:02I hate communists. I know what they did
  1043. 34:04to my family, what they did to Poland,
  1044. 34:06what they did to Europe.
  1045. 34:09And um
  1046. 34:11the reason I'm giving you my my story is
  1047. 34:13because
  1048. 34:15it's different when you're a politician
  1049. 34:17and this is your job. This is my life.
  1050. 34:20This is what why I do what I do.
  1051. 34:23I started when I was 16.
  1052. 34:25I wanted a revenge on communists for
  1053. 34:28spitting on my mom.
  1054. 34:30My home home, the whole house was wired.
  1055. 34:34And when my mom was trying to have a
  1056. 34:36conversation with my dad about Poland,
  1057. 34:38about faith, about church, about family,
  1058. 34:40they have to go out
  1059. 34:42and they were doing a walk to the
  1060. 34:43cemetery, to the place where my grandpa
  1061. 34:45was sleeping.
  1062. 34:48So, it's natural for me to fight
  1063. 34:50communism. I'm going to fight it till
  1064. 34:52the end of my life.
  1065. 34:54And jihadists are as bad, as dangerous,
  1066. 34:56as communists. They want to take over.
  1067. 34:59>> Does the marriage of communism and
  1068. 35:02jihadism seem just obvious to you?
  1069. 35:04>> that's obvious bound. It's obvious.
  1070. 35:06Who's supporting Who's supporting Hamas?
  1071. 35:09>> Yeah.
  1072. 35:10>> The leftists. When you see campuses,
  1073. 35:13all the lefts are supporting Hamas.
  1074. 35:15All the left are
  1075. 35:18laughing at 9/11 memorial.
  1076. 35:21Left and jihadists are cancer to this
  1077. 35:24world.
  1078. 35:25I'm going to heal this world, I believe,
  1079. 35:27with the help of friends from American
  1080. 35:29and other places, Brazil and others. We
  1081. 35:31have to work on it. We have to fight for
  1082. 35:32our freedom, and this is not just a
  1083. 35:34slogan. I mean physical freedom. During
  1084. 35:37communism, I I and during the war and
  1085. 35:39after the war, my grandpa was
  1086. 35:42was a prisoner.
  1087. 35:44Uh and and then my father was
  1088. 35:47We went through terrible terrible
  1089. 35:49things.
  1090. 35:50Russians
  1091. 35:52for food.
  1092. 35:54We had like a sugar,
  1093. 35:56like I don't know,
  1094. 35:58like that per month for the whole
  1095. 36:00family.
  1096. 36:01Is this what you want in America in 20
  1097. 36:03years?
  1098. 36:04Is this what you want? Because people
  1099. 36:05think that if communists will take
  1100. 36:07power,
  1101. 36:08nothing will change. There will be
  1102. 36:10equality. Yeah, everyone was equal,
  1103. 36:12equally hungry. Right.
  1104. 36:14That was equality under socialism.
  1105. 36:16People do not know. They think that this
  1106. 36:19beautiful word socialism means equality.
  1107. 36:22How naive you are. How stupid you are.
  1108. 36:27And every single time I'm trying to ask,
  1109. 36:30"Give me an example
  1110. 36:32of socialist country, not even a
  1111. 36:33communist,
  1112. 36:35but it's the same, but give me a
  1113. 36:36socialist system and socialist country
  1114. 36:39better than America. One.
  1115. 36:44>> Yeah.
  1116. 36:45>> There's no better place
  1117. 36:47and it's not only
  1118. 36:48>> Who believes?
  1119. 36:49>> No. You cannot give me an example
  1120. 36:52because it doesn't exist. All you have
  1121. 36:54is North Korea and as well
  1122. 36:56Cuba, [laughter]
  1123. 36:58Belarus.
  1124. 36:59This is This is They are socialists,
  1125. 37:02communists. This is what it is. So, I
  1126. 37:05cannot understand why people
  1127. 37:08are thinking
  1128. 37:09that capitalism is so bad because you
  1129. 37:12have to work.
  1130. 37:13Oh, that's bad.
  1131. 37:16You see, there is so much
  1132. 37:18There is so much manipulation
  1133. 37:21in the media, especially on the social
  1134. 37:23media. Qatar is spending a lot of money
  1135. 37:26fighting their jihad and spreading Islam
  1136. 37:29and this and that. Communists, they
  1137. 37:31they're as we know, most of the
  1138. 37:33mainstream media are left, right?
  1139. 37:37How can we fight? We have to work
  1140. 37:38harder. We have to do as much twice as
  1141. 37:41much or triple times more than others.
  1142. 37:44That's the fact.
  1143. 37:46It shouldn't be like that. That's the
  1144. 37:47reality. Do not cry, fight.
  1145. 37:49>> It's a strange thing, I suppose, that a
  1146. 37:52country has to be invaded by communists
  1147. 37:54and Nazis to really understand
  1148. 37:56>> Sometimes, you have to touch the bottom.
  1149. 37:58I do not want America to touch the
  1150. 37:59bottom. You do not deserve that.
  1151. 38:01>> I've I'm going to give you a copy of my
  1152. 38:03book when I leave, but I wrote about my
  1153. 38:05my uncle. So, it's my father's sister.
  1154. 38:07He married my my aunt. His family from
  1155. 38:10Poland, Jews, and
  1156. 38:12>> Really?
  1157. 38:12>> when the when the Nazis came, he had a
  1158. 38:15young daughter.
  1159. 38:16>> Mhm.
  1160. 38:17>> She had a I actually can't remember what
  1161. 38:18her name was, but it was a traditionally
  1162. 38:20Jewish name and they didn't know what to
  1163. 38:21do. And And she was about 3 years old
  1164. 38:23and they convinced her over a series of
  1165. 38:25weeks that her name was Mary.
  1166. 38:26>> Okay.
  1167. 38:27>> And he dropped her off at a convent
  1168. 38:29>> Mhm.
  1169. 38:30>> because he he was going to go into
  1170. 38:32hiding, but he thought maybe that would
  1171. 38:33keep her safe. They kept her at the
  1172. 38:35convent for about 5 years and when the
  1173. 38:37war ended, he went back to the convent
  1174. 38:39to try to get her. She barely remembered
  1175. 38:41him. He was able to identify because he
  1176. 38:43knew he she had It's It's just crazy
  1177. 38:45It's crazy. I have a movie. She had a
  1178. 38:46like a birthmark over here. He actually
  1179. 38:49got shot on the way trying to rescue her
  1180. 38:51because they they believed he was trying
  1181. 38:53to kidnap her.
  1182. 38:55Um and then you can imagine the scars
  1183. 38:56that the family went through for for
  1184. 38:58years and years and years. But I I
  1185. 39:00mention that because you're a country
  1186. 39:01that has lived through both of those
  1187. 39:04horrors and in a weird way that now
  1188. 39:05offers you that great protection.
  1189. 39:08>> Well, I think God
  1190. 39:11gave us some
  1191. 39:13about
  1192. 39:1450 years of peace now and prosperity for
  1193. 39:17all the suffering we went through
  1194. 39:20throughout the ages.
  1195. 39:22And I do not want you
  1196. 39:25Americans to touch the bottom and lose
  1197. 39:28your sovereignty. And because you see
  1198. 39:32everyone in America thinks that America
  1199. 39:35will always be great, free, freedom of
  1200. 39:38speech, this and that.
  1201. 39:40When war started
  1202. 39:45many people
  1203. 39:47didn't know that
  1204. 39:49it's going to be so horrible. And I
  1205. 39:52watched the documentary with the
  1206. 39:54testimonies of those who survived.
  1207. 39:57And the guy was asking them, "Why didn't
  1208. 39:59you just run?"
  1209. 40:01And they were like,
  1210. 40:02"But nothing was going on." Well,
  1211. 40:05>> You're talking about when the Nazis were
  1212. 40:06taking over.
  1213. 40:06>> Yes. Yes. Yeah. Well, Germans came into
  1214. 40:08the city. They put some posters.
  1215. 40:12Then they put more posters. Next day
  1216. 40:15they asked us to stay away from this
  1217. 40:17part of the city. And every day slay
  1218. 40:20slice by slice they were losing their
  1219. 40:22freedom and they were not they they
  1220. 40:24couldn't believe
  1221. 40:26what is happening because they had no
  1222. 40:28imagination. No one is ready to imagine
  1223. 40:34war in America or America under um
  1224. 40:38communists
  1225. 40:39rules. I mean real communist rules. It's
  1226. 40:42going to I hope it's not going to
  1227. 40:44happen, but if you will not stop it in
  1228. 40:45the beginning, there will be
  1229. 40:48uh next slices of your freedom.
  1230. 40:50>> Right. It's interesting cuz America,
  1231. 40:51which was born under revolution, we're
  1232. 40:53also an armed populace. We have great
  1233. 40:54separation of powers. It seems to me,
  1234. 40:56and because of our melting pot, it seems
  1235. 40:58to me we have a better, the way we've
  1236. 41:00integrated people, where in Europe you,
  1237. 41:02you know, largely kept people sort of in
  1238. 41:04the country but in separate places and
  1239. 41:07thought of as differently. It seems like
  1240. 41:08we have a lot of protections against it,
  1241. 41:10but in a weird way, I'm also starting to
  1242. 41:12think that's our weakness. Is that they
  1243. 41:14might just that we've been able for 250
  1244. 41:16years to sort of put to bed ancient
  1245. 41:18hatreds, but the communists through
  1246. 41:20identity politics are
  1247. 41:22unearthing stuff that we really put to
  1248. 41:24bed, and then it could be
  1249. 41:25>> Okay. Would you, if if someone
  1250. 41:28would
  1251. 41:29tell you
  1252. 41:3025 years ago, 25 years.
  1253. 41:33>> No, I didn't
  1254. 41:33>> 25 years ago.
  1255. 41:36If someone would tell you that in 25
  1256. 41:39years
  1257. 41:40supporting jihadist
  1258. 41:42communists will be a mayor of New York
  1259. 41:45City, and he will have a beautiful full
  1260. 41:47laugh, laughter during the memorial in
  1261. 41:4925 years, would you believe that?
  1262. 41:52>> No, I wouldn't.
  1263. 41:52>> I wouldn't. I wouldn't. We I don't want
  1264. 41:56you to wait another 25 years
  1265. 41:58and find out that communists are in
  1266. 42:00courts, government, uh capital in in
  1267. 42:04general, that communists are taking
  1268. 42:06over.
  1269. 42:06>> Right. Well, we probably lost a lot of
  1270. 42:08the courts already and
  1271. 42:10>> So, do not wait 25 years. Act now. Act
  1272. 42:13now. Everyone can do whatever, I mean,
  1273. 42:15not everyone is born to to have, you
  1274. 42:17know, to be a good speaker or do the
  1275. 42:19media, but everyone has a Instagram,
  1276. 42:21Facebook, X, and everyone can go, you
  1277. 42:23know, take to the streets.
  1278. 42:24>> So, do you think that if the midterms go
  1279. 42:27well for the Republicans that Donald
  1280. 42:29Trump with 2 years left, after
  1281. 42:31everything he's done to wake people up
  1282. 42:33to the border, after what's gone on in
  1283. 42:35Europe with
  1284. 42:36immigration and all of this stuff, with
  1285. 42:38everything happening right now with the
  1286. 42:39communists and the jihadists and
  1287. 42:41everything, do you think Donald Trump
  1288. 42:42would really do all the things that you
  1289. 42:45would want him to do, that you think
  1290. 42:46that the Europeans need to do?
  1291. 42:48>> Okay, I'm going to say something,
  1292. 42:50>> [clears throat]
  1293. 42:50>> which is unpopular now, but I'm going to
  1294. 42:53say it.
  1295. 42:55Donald Trump is the best president of
  1296. 42:57the United States in the history.
  1297. 43:01I'll say it I'll I'll say it I'll say it
  1298. 43:02again. Donald Trump is the best
  1299. 43:05president of the United States in the
  1300. 43:06history. And I know it's going to be a
  1301. 43:08lot of a lot of
  1302. 43:09people who disagree but when
  1303. 43:13Reagan was great. He and John Paul II
  1304. 43:16freed Poland and Europe from communism.
  1305. 43:18But the conditions surrounding was
  1306. 43:20completely different.
  1307. 43:22The way they attacked Donald Trump is
  1308. 43:25you never happened in in the history of
  1309. 43:28this country. I'm going to be the first
  1310. 43:29one to to build a statue to this man in
  1311. 43:31Europe. I'm serious. I'm going to do it.
  1312. 43:33I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to do
  1313. 43:34it.
  1314. 43:35He saved the world from the wokeness.
  1315. 43:38Try to imagine what would have happened
  1316. 43:39if Kamala would be a president now.
  1317. 43:42Not mentioning Biden.
  1318. 43:45That would be a disaster.
  1319. 43:46>> border would be wide open again.
  1320. 43:47>> Nobody Nobody's perfect. Nobody's saint.
  1321. 43:51We are just human beings. We made
  1322. 43:53mistakes, right?
  1323. 43:56I think he is the best president because
  1324. 43:59what he did
  1325. 44:01for us, for Polish, for Europe
  1326. 44:04no what no one ever did apart from
  1327. 44:07Reagan. No one ever.
  1328. 44:09So there is hundred hundreds of reasons
  1329. 44:12I can I can I can tell you why he is the
  1330. 44:14best president. He's not saint. He's not
  1331. 44:16closer not not me.
  1332. 44:18Not everyone. We made mistakes.
  1333. 44:20>> Mhm.
  1334. 44:21>> And a politi you know, politics is a
  1335. 44:23very
  1336. 44:24live organism. There are many vac-
  1337. 44:27vectors changing the situation.
  1338. 44:30But there was no one better to bring
  1339. 44:33this American pride back.
  1340. 44:37Uh
  1341. 44:37to take care of uh to take care of
  1342. 44:39Poland and Europe in general.
  1343. 44:41>> So so how how long was
  1344. 44:42>> to do to do what should be done for 47
  1345. 44:45years with Iran. People are angry
  1346. 44:47because you have to pay for the war this
  1347. 44:48and that. There was no one
  1348. 44:51brave enough to stop this madness with
  1349. 44:53jihadists. we know that Iran paid for
  1350. 44:56Hamas, for uh for ISIS, for Boko Haram
  1351. 45:00in Nigeria. They are sponsoring
  1352. 45:02everyone. Then we've got terrorist
  1353. 45:04attacks around the world, and everyone
  1354. 45:05is surprised how is it possible. After
  1355. 45:0747 years since revolution started, now
  1356. 45:12we have a chance for free Iran. Do you
  1357. 45:14know how many thousands of Iranians are
  1358. 45:17sending you messages, "Please help us.
  1359. 45:19Please help us." Over 40,000 people
  1360. 45:21killed. Do you know if they would finish
  1361. 45:23their program, nuclear program, only
  1362. 45:25Portugal would be maybe
  1363. 45:28would survive. The whole Europe would be
  1364. 45:30covered with the with the rockets, not
  1365. 45:32mentioning Europe uh America, obviously.
  1366. 45:34People are not realizing sometimes you
  1367. 45:36have to pay for your insurance.
  1368. 45:39Sometimes you have to do it. This is the
  1369. 45:41insurance. If they would
  1370. 45:42If they would finish this program, that
  1371. 45:44would be it.
  1372. 45:45So he knew that he's going to pay a huge
  1373. 45:47political price because people do not
  1374. 45:49like spend money on wars, this and that.
  1375. 45:52But sometimes when you get a bad tooth,
  1376. 45:55you have to get rid of it and paid for
  1377. 45:57it. It's painful, costly, but you have
  1378. 45:59to do it.
  1379. 46:00You have to do it. And I think there's
  1380. 46:03from my perspective, European
  1381. 46:04perspective,
  1382. 46:06he's the bravest.
  1383. 46:07He He He didn't have to do it with all
  1384. 46:09his money, connections, lifestyle. He
  1385. 46:12didn't have to do it.
  1386. 46:13>> No.
  1387. 46:13>> He did. I was campaigning I was
  1388. 46:15campaigning for him.
  1389. 46:17Uh I was with him I was with um
  1390. 46:20I went to uh Salem, Virginia, and other
  1391. 46:23places.
  1392. 46:24And I saw him be behind the stage
  1393. 46:27before he went out.
  1394. 46:30He's a He's a lion.
  1395. 46:32>> Yeah.
  1396. 46:33>> he is a lion. He is uh He's a a great
  1397. 46:37example. Great example of a man, of a
  1398. 46:39politician.
  1399. 46:41I'm I'm I'm absolutely I'm going to do
  1400. 46:43whatever I can to support uh Republicans
  1401. 46:46and Donald Trump.
  1402. 46:47>> So what do you think it looks like? What
  1403. 46:48What do you think he has left to
  1404. 46:50accomplish? What do you think he can do
  1405. 46:51to push back these bad forces?
  1406. 46:53Obviously, we're seeing the rise of
  1407. 46:55communism or socialism or jihadism or
  1408. 46:57whatever you want to call that monster,
  1409. 46:59the red green alliance. Let's say
  1410. 47:01>> Mhm.
  1411. 47:01>> he they keep the house in the Senate.
  1412. 47:03Now he has 2 years never to run for
  1413. 47:05re-election again.
  1414. 47:06>> going to be hard.
  1415. 47:07>> He They're both going to be hard.
  1416. 47:08Senate's getting weird. Well, Senate
  1417. 47:10Senate's getting really weird because of
  1418. 47:11what's happening in Texas. As you
  1419. 47:12mentioned Texas before, they may vote in
  1420. 47:14a guy who's as far left as you can buy
  1421. 47:16He's not a full jihadist, but he's a
  1422. 47:18full lefty. So
  1423. 47:19>> Right.
  1424. 47:20>> Let's just try to the good version,
  1425. 47:22right? The bad version is it all just
  1426. 47:23ends in two in 6 weeks basically because
  1427. 47:25they'll impeach him. But the the good
  1428. 47:27version, so let's say Trump without
  1429. 47:29having to run for re-election has the
  1430. 47:30house and the Senate again. What do you
  1431. 47:31think those 2 years look like?
  1432. 47:34>> Well, I think
  1433. 47:36that's a very good question. I I I I
  1434. 47:38think he would be
  1435. 47:39he would prove that nation is behind his
  1436. 47:43back, that that he has supported
  1437. 47:46that he has a free
  1438. 47:48will to do what he promised to do.
  1439. 47:50Administration will be brave enough not
  1440. 47:53to be worried about AOC comments and
  1441. 47:56others.
  1442. 47:57Uh they would be they would be a
  1443. 48:00a fresh power and
  1444. 48:02self-awareness that we are able to do
  1445. 48:04what we promised to do, deliver it, and
  1446. 48:06he would have power to do it. And
  1447. 48:09And I think, you know, it's a last 2
  1448. 48:11years, so you are
  1449. 48:13brave. You can do things very unpopular,
  1450. 48:16but uh needed to be done.
  1451. 48:18Obviously, we do not know who's going to
  1452. 48:20be next president. There's no nominee
  1453. 48:21yet. There's no
  1454. 48:23candidate yet.
  1455. 48:24Uh
  1456. 48:25probably someone from this
  1457. 48:27administration. I'm not going to mention
  1458. 48:29names because we don't know.
  1459. 48:30>> We can think of the main two. Yeah.
  1460. 48:32>> [laughter]
  1461. 48:32>> Yeah. Yeah.
  1462. 48:33>> So So
  1463. 48:34>> By the way, I see no point in getting
  1464. 48:35involved in that either. I like both of
  1465. 48:37them.
  1466. 48:37>> Both are great.
  1467. 48:38>> Everyone knows who we're talking about.
  1468. 48:39I like them both. And it's just like
  1469. 48:40it's so freaking early. Let this all
  1470. 48:42play out and let them have a contested
  1471. 48:44convention. I think that's what Trump
  1472. 48:45wants and he'll
  1473. 48:46>> Yeah, it's going to happen. It's going
  1474. 48:48to happen.
  1475. 48:48>> show called the straw
  1476. 48:49>> in time. So we'll see. They They've got
  1477. 48:51talented. They've got, you know, they
  1478. 48:53they both great.
  1479. 48:54>> Yeah.
  1480. 48:54>> So uh yeah, I think I think it's needed
  1481. 48:57to
  1482. 48:58to just like Iranians send me a message
  1483. 49:01is asking "Tell President Trump to
  1484. 49:03finish the job.
  1485. 49:04Just finish the job and let
  1486. 49:07next one to follow your
  1487. 49:09footsteps because he's a great leader.
  1488. 49:11And when I mentioned this statue, I was
  1489. 49:12very serious. I'm going to do it. I'm
  1490. 49:14going to be the first one to do it to
  1491. 49:16say thank you. We got uh
  1492. 49:18Ronald Reagan's statue in Warsaw. Why
  1493. 49:20Why can't we have Donald Trump? I think
  1494. 49:22it's great. When you look from the
  1495. 49:24distance,
  1496. 49:25when you're not looking at today's
  1497. 49:27events, but when you look from the
  1498. 49:28distance, within the time,
  1499. 49:31he's going to be missed so much as a
  1500. 49:33president. People will realize how great
  1501. 49:36president he was.
  1502. 49:37>> I agree with
  1503. 49:37>> How he
  1504. 49:39make you proud. He made you proud as a
  1505. 49:42nation. And this is the most motivation
  1506. 49:45for work, for whatever you do in life,
  1507. 49:48for your family. Everyone is pride again
  1508. 49:53in America. And this is so American.
  1509. 49:55This is what America was known for for
  1510. 49:57so many years. You lost it
  1511. 50:01a couple years ago.
  1512. 50:0310 years ago, let's say.
  1513. 50:04>> Yeah.
  1514. 50:05>> 15 years ago. But you are so back now.
  1515. 50:08You are so back now.
  1516. 50:10>> for 4 years, yeah.
  1517. 50:11>> I'm I'm so jealous for you. I mean, I'm
  1518. 50:13proud of Poland. I love my homeland.
  1519. 50:16I do whatever I can. Uh my political
  1520. 50:18motto be like Poland comes from my
  1521. 50:20speech in the European Parliament when I
  1522. 50:23when I point them and I said
  1523. 50:26be like Poland or you will die
  1524. 50:29within a 10 years.
  1525. 50:31Be like Poland, stop them or you will
  1526. 50:32die. Be like Poland, be pride. Be like
  1527. 50:35Poland, don't take money from Russians.
  1528. 50:36Be like Poland, this and that. That's my
  1529. 50:38political motto and I really strongly
  1530. 50:40believe that be like Poland means much
  1531. 50:43more
  1532. 50:44than Poland itself. It's an attitude.
  1533. 50:47It's the way of thinking about your
  1534. 50:48nation, about your patriotism, about
  1535. 50:51being a man. It's It's a manhood, too.
  1536. 50:53Yeah, to be to
  1537. 50:55to be responsible for your actions,
  1538. 50:58think about future and others, and leave
  1539. 51:00this place better when you're gone.
  1540. 51:03We need a legacy. We need to be more
  1541. 51:06than eat and sleep. We need to be
  1542. 51:08someone
  1543. 51:09who history will judge as a good man. To
  1544. 51:11be a good man is to love your own
  1545. 51:13country. Sometimes this love is hard.
  1546. 51:16Just like in a relation, but you still
  1547. 51:18love this country. So, my
  1548. 51:23My message would be, please, do not let
  1549. 51:27communists take over this beautiful
  1550. 51:28country.
  1551. 51:30>> And that is how you end an interview.
  1552. 51:32>> Thank you so much. Thank you for having
  1553. 51:34me. It was great. Thank you.
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