What European Politicians & Immigrants Say Behind Closed Doors | Dominik Tarczyński — Transcript
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- 0:00If you are trying to cross a border and
- 0:02harm any of our soldiers, you will be
- 0:04dead. This is what I said in the
- 0:05parliament. I said do not come to the
- 0:07Polish border because you will be dead,
- 0:09shot dead. Because one of my friends, he
- 0:11came to Poland 30 years ago from Syria,
- 0:13get married to a Polish girl, raise
- 0:15[music] his kids as Christians and he
- 0:17told me do not ever ever let them in. I
- 0:20asked him who? He said Syrians. And I
- 0:22said what do you mean you're Syrian? He
- 0:23said but the difference between me and
- 0:25them [music] is that I'm educated, I
- 0:27brought money, I pay taxes, I I respect
- 0:29culture and there are people from the
- 0:31desert.
- 0:31>> On the Europe front is do you see any
- 0:34will [music] to do that in other
- 0:35countries?
- 0:36>> Your liberals, your Democrats are
- 0:37communists.
- 0:38>> Right.
- 0:38>> And now I can hear Bernie Sanders,
- 0:39[music] AOC and all these lunatics. It
- 0:42doesn't matter if they call themselves
- 0:43Democrats, Social Democrats, Socialists,
- 0:46they are communists. The lowest
- 0:48unemployment in European Union, Poland.
- 0:50Highest GDP after [music] COVID, Poland.
- 0:51Zero terrorist attacks. And why? Because
- 0:54when this madness started in 2015, we
- 0:57stopped them. We did not let them in. Be
- 0:59like Poland or you will die.
- 1:00>> Do you think Donald Trump would really
- 1:02do all the [music] things that you would
- 1:04want him to do that you think that the
- 1:06Europeans need to do?
- 1:12>> [music]
- 1:16>> All right, I'm Dave Rubin. This is The
- 1:17Rubin Report and joining me in studio
- 1:19today is a former two-time member of
- 1:21Polish Parliament, now two-time member
- 1:24of European Parliament and
- 1:26two-time returning guest to The Rubin
- 1:28Report.
- 1:28>> That is correct.
- 1:30>> Pleasure to Pleasure to be here. Thank
- 1:31you for having me and this is just a
- 1:33beginning.
- 1:34>> This is just
- 1:34>> I'm I'm just starting.
- 1:36>> Meaning you're moving to Florida cuz
- 1:38that's where all freedom-loving people
- 1:39end, you know.
- 1:40>> I love Florida, but the heat
- 1:42>> [laughter]
- 1:42>> is too much. I mean, people of Florida,
- 1:44how can you live here? I mean, come on.
- 1:46>> You walked in here. Dripping
- 1:50sweaty. It's extremely hot. It's always
- 1:52hot this time of year. It's humid. I get
- 1:54it. And the first thing I asked you was
- 1:55how does the weather in Krakow this time
- 1:57of year compare
- 1:58>> I think it's perfect. We've got proper
- 1:59seasons actually. So, uh beginning of
- 2:02autumn it's beautiful because you still
- 2:04have a sun, not much rain. You don't
- 2:06have the sea.
- 2:07>> [laughter]
- 2:07>> Yes.
- 2:09It's hard, but I love Florida.
- 2:10Especially people here. It's beautiful.
- 2:12Beautiful.
- 2:12>> Yeah. Well, I'm glad to be sitting down
- 2:14with you again. Last time we did this I
- 2:15think was it our Can not the last one,
- 2:17but probably probably about a year and a
- 2:18half ago in London. You've been one of
- 2:20the leading voices out of Europe related
- 2:22particularly to borders not only for
- 2:24your own country, but really for all of
- 2:25the European Union and and the mass
- 2:27migration problem. So, we'll get into
- 2:29all of that, but I thought you walked in
- 2:30with this hat and I said, "Guys, let's
- 2:32let's [laughter] put this on set."
- 2:34Because if you would have said to people
- 2:35to the if you would have said to the
- 2:36average American 20 years ago
- 2:39"Be like Poland. Here's a hat." They're
- 2:41just going to come up with 20 Polish
- 2:43jokes. Or I would have been like, "Ah,
- 2:45when I was in Brooklyn and Greenpoint a
- 2:47lot of Polish people over there. Okay,
- 2:48you can get some good kielbasa." But But
- 2:50now who's laughing? And I And I think
- 2:52that's an interesting place to start.
- 2:53You guys are doing something right that
- 2:56most of the world has forgotten.
- 2:57>> True. Well, first of all, when you look
- 3:00at the data and I'm I'm trying to repeat
- 3:02that every single time because it's not
- 3:04changed. It's It's even better actually.
- 3:06The lowest unemployment in European
- 3:08Union, Poland. Highest GDP after COVID,
- 3:11Poland. Lowest rate of rapes, Poland.
- 3:14Zero terrorist attacks. Always these
- 3:17four pillars. Every single time for
- 3:19years.
- 3:20I'm trying to repeat it and remind it.
- 3:23And why? Because when
- 3:25this madness started in 2015, we stopped
- 3:28them. We did not let them in. So, be
- 3:30like Poland. It's not just a hat. It's
- 3:32not just a merch. I'm trying to send a
- 3:35message. So, whenever I go I I take this
- 3:39hat with me because I'm proud. Because
- 3:42we are an example. Our conservative
- 3:44government is an example how to deal
- 3:46with the problems. Because the main the
- 3:49root of the problem
- 3:50is
- 3:51and I must say that, not migration
- 3:53itself, but Islamization. It's a fact.
- 3:56So, because Poland is the safest place
- 4:00in European Union. One of the safest
- 4:02places on Earth at the moment. And it's
- 4:04not my political opinion, everyone can
- 4:06check that on
- 4:08on internet. It's Eurostat official
- 4:10data.
- 4:11Because of that, many investors are very
- 4:13happy to come. Tourism is just booming.
- 4:17And everyone is like, I mean, everyone,
- 4:18many people are sending me messages,
- 4:20when do you start your own tourist
- 4:21company? Because everyone's like, why do
- 4:23you always say,
- 4:25because why do you always, you know,
- 4:26repeat be like Poland? Because I'm
- 4:28proud.
- 4:29I'm proud of Copernicus. I'm proud of
- 4:32Chopin. I'm proud of King Sobieski. I'm
- 4:35proud of John Paul the Second. I'm proud
- 4:38of our wall at the border. I'm I'm I'm
- 4:42I'm so proud of Poland, thousand years
- 4:45history throughout the ages. And I'm so
- 4:48proud. And I am a politician,
- 4:51representative at this moment of history
- 4:54of humanity, not only Europeans. So,
- 4:58when someone will ask me, what did you
- 4:59do for Poland? I will say, I made it
- 5:03safe.
- 5:04And I brought people
- 5:06to Poland as a tourist, and I made them
- 5:09jealous.
- 5:10>> You know, it's so interesting because
- 5:11obviously I talk to politicians from all
- 5:13over the world, but particularly I find
- 5:14in Europe, they'll give me some version
- 5:16of I'm proud of my country, and they
- 5:18talk about the past, but they're not
- 5:19proud of what's going on now. You have a
- 5:22nice Right, you have a nice version of
- 5:24that, right? And that's not to say
- 5:25Poland has had a complex history, too,
- 5:27and all that. So, so you mentioned 2015
- 5:30when this all went crazy related to
- 5:31immigration. What is it that you were in
- 5:33government at the time, were you?
- 5:34>> Yeah, that's that's that's our
- 5:36government.
- 5:36>> Yeah, but no, but were you you were in
- 5:37government personally, right? So, so
- 5:39what is it that the Polish government
- 5:41saw that somehow the rest of the EU
- 5:44seemed not to see?
- 5:46Well, first of all, it's not about what
- 5:49we've seen, but it's about our
- 5:51experience. First of all,
- 5:54as I mentioned, Poland is thousand years
- 5:56history.
- 5:57We've been partitioned, I mentioned it
- 6:00during our first conversation 123 years
- 6:04of non-existence.
- 6:05Russia and Germany
- 6:07>> Yeah.
- 6:07>> took over.
- 6:09We know what it means to be taken over.
- 6:12123
- 6:14years of non-existence on the map and we
- 6:17survived. Not only that,
- 6:20after partitions, we had a terrible
- 6:22World War II. 6 million Poles killed.
- 6:25All the elite killed. Professors,
- 6:29priests, musicians. This is what we
- 6:32lost.
- 6:34Then we had nearly 70 years of
- 6:37communism. We've been taken over after
- 6:39the war by Soviet Russia. So, we know
- 6:43when
- 6:44this kind of things are coming, because
- 6:46of our experience, we know what might
- 6:48happen. So, when Germany started this
- 6:51madness of illegal migration, cheap
- 6:52labor actually,
- 6:54we said, "No. We're not going to let
- 6:56them in. We are Christian country. We
- 6:59are very devoted Catholics. We do not
- 7:02want enrichment in Poland. We are very
- 7:05happy as rich as we are." And everyone
- 7:07was like, "Oh, but you need the you
- 7:08know, your birth rate is going down. You
- 7:10need people to No.
- 7:12We don't need that. We want to be alive.
- 7:14Maybe that not as much not not as rich
- 7:17as others, but alive.
- 7:19So, we decided, "Okay, the GBT will be
- 7:23going up slower. They will not be a
- 7:25backward, but it's going to be a bit
- 7:26slower, but we are going to be safe."
- 7:30And what happened? It's go It's booming
- 7:32now. Because of our decisions in 2015.
- 7:36So,
- 7:38as you know, one of our soldiers was
- 7:40killed with a spear. They made it
- 7:43uh they they they killed him through the
- 7:45vents through the vents and uh our
- 7:47government, our parliament actually, all
- 7:50political parties changed the law
- 7:53that we can use live bullets now. So,
- 7:55you know what we're doing now?
- 7:57We shoot them.
- 7:58>> If you're trying
- 7:59>> If you're trying to cross a border and
- 8:02harm any of our soldiers, you will be
- 8:04dead. This is what I said in the
- 8:06parliament. I said, do not come to the
- 8:08Polish border because you will be dead,
- 8:10shot dead.
- 8:12It's not a joke.
- 8:13>> Yeah.
- 8:13>> So, we are we are taking safety security
- 8:17very very seriously. Because we know
- 8:20that this is a war. When it started, we
- 8:23already we we were very clear. This is
- 8:27um this is a war. Hybrid war, but a war.
- 8:30We knew that many of them were coming
- 8:32from Russia with the tourist visas. They
- 8:35were brought to Belarus and then they
- 8:37were coming to our border. They were
- 8:38trying to kill our soldiers. We changed
- 8:41the law in 3 days and we shoot them now.
- 8:44If there is a need, we use live bullets.
- 8:46>> What kind of pushback do you get from
- 8:49I suppose we could call it the left in
- 8:51your country. I mean I Yeah, it's the
- 8:53left. So,
- 8:54what kind of internal pushback do you
- 8:56get on that? Cuz when I hear you say
- 8:57that, to me I the thing I always say on
- 8:59the show is if everyone in Europe, in
- 9:00Germany, in Spain, in France, all these
- 9:02countries, if they just had a time
- 9:03machine and could go back 15, 20 years,
- 9:05everyone would do it that way.
- 9:07>> Of course.
- 9:07>> Yeah.
- 9:07>> The
- 9:08obviously we do have a left like every
- 9:10like every country. They they cry a lot.
- 9:13They cry loud. We don't give a
- 9:15>> [laughter]
- 9:15>> Well, as simple as that. I'm serious. I
- 9:17mean, they do cry a lot. They they they
- 9:20they tried to even help them. They were
- 9:21running with the pizzas to the border to
- 9:23you know to help the poor people. Yeah,
- 9:25of course. We've got our own AOC. We've
- 9:28got our own
- 9:30You want to know more?
- 9:30>> What type of political power do they
- 9:32have? They're They're in opposition
- 9:34obviously. [clears throat]
- 9:34>> They They were in the opposition at that
- 9:36time.
- 9:36>> Yeah.
- 9:37>> So, so we didn't care. And obviously
- 9:40they knew that we are right because what
- 9:42is happening now in Poland and be like
- 9:43Poland. You see, now the liberals are
- 9:45taking the the the they're creating a
- 9:48government in Poland, but I'm still very
- 9:51proud to say be like Poland because if
- 9:53we would not make these decisions in
- 9:552015, if we would not build the wall, if
- 9:58we would not create this atmosphere, do
- 10:00not come or you will die,
- 10:02then they will be here. They will be in
- 10:04Poland. So, what we did we
- 10:06>> your liberal party is not purely
- 10:08leftist.
- 10:09>> Oh, it's not the same left. Right. Of
- 10:11course. Of course. It's
- 10:13>> No, no, [clears throat] no, no. I mean,
- 10:14your your liberals, your democrats are
- 10:16communists.
- 10:16>> Right. Right.
- 10:18>> I mean I mean
- 10:19>> Sorry.
- 10:19>> I mean I I feel sorry for you. That's
- 10:21why I'm starting my job on on on this
- 10:23university I mentioned to you before we
- 10:24started. Florida International
- 10:26University and I'm going to I'm going to
- 10:29I'm going to do lectures on communism in
- 10:30the past, present, and future.
- 10:32Because what I think
- 10:34my personal experience is very important
- 10:37to share it. It's going to be more like
- 10:39testimony rather than teaching because I
- 10:41was born in 1979. I remember communism.
- 10:44I remember being a 6-year-old kid in a
- 10:46queue queuing for all night to get
- 10:48shoes. I didn't get them. It wasn't
- 10:50enough. It was like Venezuela and Cuba.
- 10:53I experienced communism. I know what
- 10:55communism is. And now I can hear Bernie
- 10:57Sanders, AOC, and all these lunatics.
- 11:00They are communists.
- 11:02It doesn't matter if they call
- 11:03themselves democrats, social democrats,
- 11:06socialists. They are communists.
- 11:08>> there is any meaningful distinction
- 11:10beyond that they have different names
- 11:11for it because they kind of slow roll
- 11:12you with the name?
- 11:13>> The action the actions they're taking. I
- 11:15mean,
- 11:17like they want to abolish an army, a
- 11:20police.
- 11:21They want to destroy this country.
- 11:23>> Open the borders.
- 11:24>> Obviously. That's obvious. So So if you
- 11:26if you do not want public services, if
- 11:28you don't want if you do not want
- 11:30an army, police, you want open borders,
- 11:32there's no country. You've got just
- 11:34land. Everyone can go and and come and
- 11:37go do whatever. There's no
- 11:40To me
- 11:41it's a pure communism because
- 11:45number one, they want to take power,
- 11:47full power. They do not want to share
- 11:49power.
- 11:50That's number one. Number two, they want
- 11:52to destroy this country in the name of
- 11:54power because everyone knows that the
- 11:56great replacement, we saw that couple
- 11:59days ago in Sweden.
- 12:01Um the great replacement pays very well
- 12:04with the votes for left. Everyone knows
- 12:06that. We keep repeating it. Nobody does
- 12:08anything about it. 75%
- 12:11no-go zones voted for left in Sweden and
- 12:14they took over. So, they don't care
- 12:17about their country. They don't care
- 12:19about future generations. They are
- 12:20hedonists. They think about themselves.
- 12:23Let's take your power now. Whatever
- 12:24happened in 20, 30 years, I don't care.
- 12:26They don't even care about their own
- 12:27children and grandchildren. That is the
- 12:30problem. So, the difference between us,
- 12:32Republicans, conservatives, right wing,
- 12:36is
- 12:37to think about next generations and
- 12:39leave the country better than when you
- 12:42started to live in this country. That is
- 12:43the difference. They don't care. They've
- 12:45got these beautiful houses.
- 12:47It's closed. Nobody No one can get in.
- 12:49They don't like police. But, they've got
- 12:51private securities. That's the
- 12:53difference. So, So, it's, you know,
- 12:55sometimes when
- 12:59I do interviews,
- 13:01I'm just thinking, it's so obvious. I
- 13:02shouldn't even I shouldn't [laughter]
- 13:04even talk about it. It's obvious like a
- 13:06green and red light, like a sun
- 13:09and a moon. It's so obvious for me, for
- 13:12us, for Poles. It's so obvious. It's
- 13:15also interesting because the policy of
- 13:16someone approaching the border will be
- 13:18shot doesn't mean you have to shoot
- 13:20people relentlessly. Once you send that
- 13:22signal out, less people show up. It's
- 13:24like when we were blowing up those narco
- 13:26boats coming from Venezuela. Suddenly,
- 13:28less boats started coming. Exactly.
- 13:30Numbers drop because they know that we
- 13:32can, by the law, use live bullets.
- 13:34Obviously, we don't we don't shoot
- 13:35people because just we like it. We are
- 13:38not animals. We don't do that. But, we
- 13:41do not shoot people who are trying to
- 13:43break into our country because we hate
- 13:44them. We do it because we love those in
- 13:47our homes. Because we do it out of love.
- 13:50So, my message, if I may, my message
- 13:53again,
- 13:55do not come to the Polish border or you
- 13:57will be dead. Shot dead. Do not come to
- 14:01the Polish border. I'm very clear for
- 14:03years. If you are coming,
- 14:05it's it's it's your own risk. Do not cry
- 14:08over that. Do not tell me that you were
- 14:10shot, you were pushed back, whatever,
- 14:11whatever. Do not come. There's no
- 14:13problem.
- 14:14Go to Qatar, there is no problem with
- 14:17that. They speak Arabic.
- 14:18>> [laughter]
- 14:19>> What is the problem? Why you don't go to
- 14:21>> sure Qatar is not letting these people
- 14:23wander in. They They want their slave
- 14:25laborers who they take their passports.
- 14:27>> was asking why why Egypt is not Why they
- 14:29close their border? Why they build a
- 14:30wall?
- 14:31>> Very strange they don't open the door to
- 14:32Gaza, isn't it?
- 14:33>> and others, they don't want them. You
- 14:35know why? Because one of my friends,
- 14:38the guy I know, he came to Poland 30
- 14:40years ago from Syria. Uh and I I give
- 14:43this example every single time. He came
- 14:45to Poland 30 years ago, he get married a
- 14:47Polish girl, raised his kids as
- 14:49Christians, and he told me,
- 14:51"Do not ever
- 14:52>> [clears throat]
- 14:52>> ever let them in." I mean, who? I asked
- 14:55him, "Who?" He said, "Syrians." And I
- 14:57said, "What do you mean? You're Syrian."
- 14:59He said, "But the difference between me
- 15:00and them is that I'm educated, I brought
- 15:03money, I paid taxes, I I respect culture
- 15:06Christian culture, and they are people
- 15:08from the desert.
- 15:10They They do not see the different
- 15:11between good and evil.
- 15:13And you will You will be dead," he said
- 15:16to me. "Do not let them in." Syrian guy
- 15:19who's for 30 years in Poland
- 15:22told me, "Do not let them in." So, if
- 15:24they want to go, let them go to any
- 15:26Arabic country. And it's the same thing
- 15:28with with the with the cultural
- 15:31enrichment. I was very clear and I said,
- 15:33"Until Poland
- 15:35will not be able to build a cathedral in
- 15:38Qatar, there will not be even a one
- 15:40mosque."
- 15:41Is it fair?
- 15:42I think it's
- 15:43>> It's fair. It's fair to me. Yeah.
- 15:44>> Okay, you want to one mosque, we're
- 15:45going to get one cathedral. If not,
- 15:47there's no mosques in Poland. I mean,
- 15:49not new mosque. We've got Tatars, we've
- 15:50got beautiful Muslims who are in Poland
- 15:52for over 400 years who fought for They
- 15:55fought for Poland, but we do not want
- 15:57jihadists. We do not We're not going to
- 15:59let them in. And that's why they are
- 16:01calling me Islamophobe. I don't have a
- 16:03phobia. Phobia is irrational fear.
- 16:07My fear [clears throat] is rational. My
- 16:09um my mom's and sister fear is rational.
- 16:13It's based on what is happening in in
- 16:15Europe. So, it's not Islamophobia,
- 16:18it's a rational fear on what they are
- 16:20doing.
- 16:21>> When you when you wander through the
- 16:23offices of the European Parliament and
- 16:25you're wandering through Brussels and
- 16:27all of that stuff and you're listening
- 16:29to these guys have their wine and fancy
- 16:31meals and talk about all this stuff.
- 16:33Are they subtly agreeing with you cuz I
- 16:35cannot imagine they all enjoy giving
- 16:37their countries away?
- 16:39>> They do, but they would never agree.
- 16:41They would never they would never agree
- 16:43in public. What they do when when we
- 16:45have a conversation, I know some of
- 16:46them.
- 16:47They're not my friends, but as we travel
- 16:49together, we on the plane together on
- 16:51the April, we spend quite a lot of time
- 16:53with together and whenever I ask them,
- 16:56"Don't you think you're destroying this
- 16:57country, this this continent?" They were
- 16:59like,
- 17:01"You're right."
- 17:03But, there is some something is driving
- 17:07them to do so.
- 17:09And
- 17:10it's not about power only. I think many
- 17:13of them are owned.
- 17:15I told you we had this conversation like
- 17:18nearly 2 years ago.
- 17:20>> Yeah.
- 17:21>> Nobody owns me.
- 17:23I can say whatever I want. I don't care.
- 17:25And I think many of them are uh
- 17:29dependent on
- 17:31external powers.
- 17:32>> So, when you say external powers, I mean
- 17:33obviously Qatar is throwing all sorts of
- 17:35money at all this
- 17:36>> Well, if vice president if vice
- 17:37president of European Parliament was
- 17:40caught with two suitcases full of cash.
- 17:42It's it's about 15 million euros.
- 17:45Uh she was given she she bought a
- 17:47private island and
- 17:49and she was visiting Qatar many times
- 17:52and she was voting in the committee
- 17:54where she wasn't even a member and she
- 17:56was doing things for Qatar and she was
- 17:57arrested vice president obviously
- 17:59socialist.
- 18:01What can you expect?
- 18:03What can you expect? Qatar is spending
- 18:07hundreds of millions to buy politicians
- 18:11around the world, especially in European
- 18:13Parliament. Not me.
- 18:15>> They're buying influencers, too.
- 18:17>> Of course.
- 18:17>> That's a secondary issue, but that's
- 18:19true, too.
- 18:19>> This is That's why I think um
- 18:22we can be right, we can win wars on the
- 18:25ground, we are losing internet.
- 18:27Thank God for your podcast. Thank God
- 18:29that I can say whatever I want. You
- 18:30never interrupt, you never
- 18:33We had this conversation before we
- 18:34started.
- 18:35That I don't want to even know what's
- 18:37your questions.
- 18:38>> All right.
- 18:39>> You know, because I'm going to say
- 18:40whatever I want anyway.
- 18:42And every every podcast I do or an
- 18:45interview, I don't want to know what
- 18:47what the questions are. I mean, I don't
- 18:48care because nobody owns me. And they
- 18:51can call me Islamophobe, fascist. I
- 18:54don't care. This is what I said to Katie
- 18:55Newman in 2018
- 18:5718 channel 4. You can call me a pink
- 19:00elephant. It's just a word. And my mom,
- 19:02my sister, my future wife are safe
- 19:04because of my work.
- 19:06This is what we did in a parliament. We
- 19:08asked them to use live bullets, to be
- 19:10brave, to fight for our country. Because
- 19:12this is our home, right? Okay, you got a
- 19:15home with four or six people. It's 40
- 19:16million people in our home. And we're
- 19:18going to protect it. And if someone
- 19:20needs to be killed, he's going to be
- 19:21killed.
- 19:22Simple as that.
- 19:23>> What kind of pushback do you get does
- 19:26Poland get from the EU? So I've had a
- 19:29lot of these types of conversations.
- 19:30I've been to Hungary several times and I
- 19:31definitely want to come to Poland. So we
- 19:33>> Come visit me.
- 19:34That would be great. We can do a report
- 19:35by the border. You will see with your
- 19:38own eyes how beautiful this this wall
- 19:40is, how safe it is. So once you do it,
- 19:42yeah, let's do it together.
- 19:43>> absolutely will do that. I've had this
- 19:45type of conversation usually from a
- 19:47Hungarian perspective in that part of
- 19:49your world and I've been to see back in
- 19:50Hungary and a few things like that. Now
- 19:52Hungary obviously seems to be at least
- 19:53slightly going in the other direction
- 19:55right now. It's a little It's a little
- 19:57It's not It's not a major difference.
- 19:58Not maybe Okay, so all right, that's
- 20:00nice to hear.
- 20:01Um but I know a lot about the pushback
- 20:03that they were getting and you know,
- 20:04that it was a million a million euro
- 20:06fine a day basically keep your border.
- 20:08So you have the same exact
- 20:09>> We had 22,000 euros per person because
- 20:11as you know
- 20:13this gen geniuses from European Union,
- 20:15they created a problem.
- 20:17I mean, Germans. They invited them
- 20:19willkommen willkommen politics.
- 20:21I
- 20:22looking for a cheap labor. They found
- 20:24out okay, they don't want to work, they
- 20:25don't want to learn language. They
- 20:27Sometimes they are blowing themselves up
- 20:28with as a terrorist. They they are
- 20:30using explosive. They they rape, they
- 20:32kill, they they they behead people
- 20:34actually.
- 20:36So, they said okay, so we've got a
- 20:37problem now in Germany, well in in
- 20:40European Union. So, let's spread them
- 20:42around as a European solidarity. We're
- 20:45going to have this quota system and
- 20:47according to your population, you're
- 20:48going to take numbers. We're going to
- 20:50take you how many you have to take and
- 20:51that's it.
- 20:53And what we said?
- 20:55Can I swear?
- 20:56>> Yeah, oh yeah.
- 20:57off.
- 20:58>> [laughter]
- 20:59>> We said off.
- 21:01And we did not let anyone in. They find
- 21:03us 22,000 euro per person.
- 21:06millions
- 21:06>> So they estimated by population how many
- 21:09they have to
- 21:09>> yeah. Yeah, so they get some quota
- 21:13and they ask us to um
- 21:15uh to pay 22,000 euros per person. We
- 21:18did. We did and look at us now.
- 21:20>> Right.
- 21:21>> Be like Poland. And it's not like we
- 21:23paid this money. They deducted it from
- 21:26general budget actually.
- 21:28>> [snorts]
- 21:28>> But we didn't get this money. So, we
- 21:29paid So so we paid for it. And it was
- 21:32better
- 21:33to pay money, be alive, safe, happy,
- 21:37smiled. When you come to Poland, you
- 21:40will not believe. What I do now because
- 21:42I invite everyone to Poland, everyone.
- 21:44When I do podcast reports,
- 21:46I'm asking people who were I had a the
- 21:48guy from Japan recently.
- 21:51He came from Japan asking you to do a
- 21:52tour and I and I put the map
- 21:55on the table and asked and I told him,
- 21:57"Pick up the place. Not me, you. Pick up
- 21:59the place. We're going to go there.
- 22:00You're going to film it."
- 22:02He picked up the places. He filmed it.
- 22:03He was crying. He switched off the
- 22:05camera and he was crying.
- 22:06I said, "Why are you crying?" He says,
- 22:08"I want Japan to be the same."
- 22:09>> Mhm.
- 22:10>> And I said, "Jap I thought Japan is
- 22:12okay. You've got a beautiful prime
- 22:13minister now. You have a" He said,
- 22:14"Yeah, yeah. She's okay, but we need
- 22:17time to clean the whole thing. It's it's
- 22:19a huge" He was very emotional actually.
- 22:21>> Right. If you think of a place like
- 22:22Japan can't do it. They're obviously
- 22:24doing better and they're you know
- 22:26>> Of course not. They didn't have
- 22:27>> She's the new prime minister is better.
- 22:28But the fact that they have a problem
- 22:30>> It's It's a global problem.
- 22:32>> beyond imagination. Yeah.
- 22:33>> This is why when I said that this
- 22:36process of illegal migration it's not
- 22:39about poor people looking for a better
- 22:41life, but this is actual hijra, Arabic
- 22:44term of demographic war. This is not
- 22:46about poor people. Look at Look at the
- 22:49Spain now. The guys with Balenciaga
- 22:51t-shirts with the iPhones
- 22:53>> Yeah.
- 22:53>> They are They are asked questions.
- 22:55>> Yeah. What What are you doing in here?
- 22:56I'm looking for a better life.
- 22:58>> No women?
- 22:59>> Yeah.
- 22:59>> No kids?
- 23:00>> Just just force
- 23:03like in their 20s
- 23:05military age
- 23:07thousands like 80,000 during the
- 23:10weekend. It's organized. It's a hijra.
- 23:13It's a It's a demographic war. So if we
- 23:16will not realize that this is a war, if
- 23:18we will not realize that we have to
- 23:20react and the first thing is
- 23:23in my opinion from what I see, we have
- 23:25to change our language.
- 23:28We have to be brave to call things as
- 23:30they are. And um
- 23:32if someone is calling me Islamophobe
- 23:35fascist, I don't give a single We
- 23:37have to call it as it is because the
- 23:39main problem is still political
- 23:42correctness.
- 23:44I'm not correct in any way.
- 23:45>> So what would you do if you were a
- 23:47member of parliament, let's say in
- 23:49Germany right now? Or if you were the
- 23:50prime minister of Germany, you know, or
- 23:52or any of these countries?
- 23:53>> Mhm.
- 23:54>> Let's say they can all close their
- 23:55borders tomorrow cuz the migration in
- 23:58has at least slowed at this point,
- 23:59right? So okay, let's say you close your
- 24:01borders tomorrow. You still have an
- 24:02in-house
- 24:04problem.
- 24:05>> Mhm.
- 24:05>> Do you think re-emigration or
- 24:07remigration, whatever they're calling
- 24:09it, do you think that there is any
- 24:10chance this is going to work? I mean
- 24:11you're going to really put soldiers Do
- 24:12you think any of these countries will do
- 24:14it?
- 24:14>> Give me 3
- 24:14>> versus what you will do.
- 24:16>> Give me 3 days.
- 24:173 days the the whole problem will be
- 24:19solved. We're going to ask for 100 747
- 24:22at the airport. We're going to arrest
- 24:24them. We're going to transport them. And
- 24:26we're going to send them to Nigeria,
- 24:27Qatar, and other places. If they will
- 24:29not take them, we're going to leave them
- 24:31where they are. We're going to leave
- 24:32them
- 24:34in the in the in the countries where the
- 24:35the plane is going to go. We're going to
- 24:37cut off all the contracts. We're going
- 24:38to start with the sanctions, and that's
- 24:40it. Well, El Salvador is doing good with
- 24:43with the gang members. It was solved in
- 24:451 month.
- 24:47The beautiful, great, beautiful
- 24:50prison was built. Everyone is there. And
- 24:53that's it. There is no problem at all.
- 24:56You have to have a man
- 24:59who's ready to do things which are
- 25:02unimaginable for many politicians.
- 25:04>> Right. So, that really is the question.
- 25:06Do you think
- 25:06>> If we can organize if we can organize
- 25:09Super Bowl,
- 25:10right? If we can organize like millions
- 25:13of people for pilgrimages of John Paul
- 25:15II, we can organize millions
- 25:18remigrations for millions in 3 days.
- 25:20We need political power. We need
- 25:22political um We need political strength
- 25:26and people who are not afraid. I would
- 25:27organize it. I mean, I'm in the European
- 25:29Parliament. I'm I'm making really good
- 25:31money. I mean, we making really good
- 25:32money. And I said publicly sometime ago
- 25:35that I'm ready to be back
- 25:37next year because we got election in
- 25:38Poland
- 25:40as as a secretary of deportation.
- 25:43I would leave my seat in European
- 25:44Parliament, and I will organize it. And
- 25:46I will show the whole world how to do
- 25:47it. Give me 3 days.
- 25:49>> But you don't need to do much in Poland.
- 25:51>> No. But, we still have a problem.
- 25:53>> Just to model it.
- 25:54>> Yeah. Just to show them how you how you
- 25:56deal with it. Like
- 25:59it's not a problem to order pizza, order
- 26:02food, and check the papers.
- 26:04Not a problem at all. You put 200 agents
- 26:07calling for a pizza. You're asking them
- 26:09to come with delivery. You check the
- 26:11papers. That's it. I mean, there's
- 26:13hundreds of ways to get over it. But,
- 26:17the most important I'm That's a joke,
- 26:18obviously. You know what I meant. I'm
- 26:20I'm being silly now, but you can
- 26:22organize it with with the structure of
- 26:24your country. You can organize
- 26:26the whole process, but there must be a
- 26:28decision. Milei is doing good. El El
- 26:31Salvador is doing good. Brazil will do
- 26:34the same. I had this conversation with
- 26:35>> Right. South America, Latin America seem
- 26:38to be They all seem to be shifting to
- 26:39right at the moment.
- 26:40>> Yes.
- 26:40>> Brazil is a little bizarre.
- 26:42Um hopefully they'll come around and
- 26:44we'll see what happens.
- 26:44>> But I I I I still I I really hope that
- 26:46um
- 26:47Flávio Bolsonaro is going to win. Uh I
- 26:49mean, that would be He promised to build
- 26:51the same prison as El Salvador because
- 26:54they got a problem with the gangs and
- 26:55and and and and the crime in general.
- 26:57So, so I think he's going to win.
- 26:58>> So, so let's say they're basically okay.
- 27:00But [clears throat] now but but on the
- 27:01Europe front is Do you see any will to
- 27:04do that in other countries? I mean, the
- 27:06AfD just got a got some nice results
- 27:08this past week. Like, if they were to
- 27:10come to power, do you think Weidel and
- 27:13uh the other guy whose name I'm blanking
- 27:15on, the the partner Do you Do you think
- 27:16they have a chance to actually do
- 27:18something?
- 27:19>> Well,
- 27:19what I hear from Great Britain
- 27:22what I hear from Rupert Lowe, what I
- 27:24hear from even from Nigel sometimes,
- 27:27uh they are saying they're going to do
- 27:29it.
- 27:30I'm very happy and I'm That's my
- 27:32announcement, if I may. If you need any
- 27:34consultation with this job, I'll do it
- 27:36for free.
- 27:37>> [laughter]
- 27:37>> I'm serious. I will do it for free. As a
- 27:40European, as a Christian, I'll do it for
- 27:42free. Just let me do it. We've got our
- 27:44election in a year. We do not have such
- 27:46a big problem because as I said, our
- 27:47decisions were right and everyone is
- 27:49like, "How can I be like Poland?" Do you
- 27:50know how many messages I'm getting every
- 27:52single day? How can I
- 27:54>> flee
- 27:55>> believe it.
- 27:55>> to Poland. It's not How can I move to
- 27:58Poland? They are using a specific word.
- 28:01How can I flee to Poland? And we are
- 28:04pearl of Europe now. We've got our
- 28:06problems, obviously. We are not
- 28:08laboratory that there is no problems at
- 28:10all. But when you're going to come,
- 28:11you're going to see how safe, clean,
- 28:14there's no piece of paper on floor.
- 28:15>> No, I see videos all the time. You know,
- 28:17there's all these accounts that compare
- 28:19and contrast these different European
- 28:20countries and you see what's going on in
- 28:22Poland at parades where you don't need
- 28:24all of the protection and you don't need
- 28:26barriers everywhere.
- 28:27>> see a police guy with a with a with a
- 28:29with a shotgun. There's no need for
- 28:31that. Like, when I do these reports and
- 28:33interviews,
- 28:35I'm walking with the a with a with the
- 28:36guys coming over to Poland and they ask
- 28:38me, "Where's your security?" I don't
- 28:39have one.
- 28:41I don't need security.
- 28:42>> You'll be okay here in Florida, though.
- 28:44>> I mean,
- 28:45>> [laughter]
- 28:45>> but in Poland, like everyone is
- 28:46surprised. Like, whatever country
- 28:49they're coming from, they're like, "Our
- 28:50politicians are not able to walk around.
- 28:52Why?"
- 28:53Why? What did they do that people hate
- 28:56them?
- 28:57They're owned. They don't get They don't
- 28:59care. I do. Here, I don't need any
- 29:01security.
- 29:02>> What would you say to the average
- 29:05Republican in America right now?
- 29:06Obviously, we have a huge midterm
- 29:08election coming and if it goes the wrong
- 29:10way, Trump is done, in essence. They're
- 29:11going to impeach him and it's going to
- 29:13be done. So, you know, the 10-plus years
- 29:15of Trumpism really will start
- 29:17disintegrating overnight. What what
- 29:19would you say to the average Republican
- 29:21right now that's either
- 29:22running for re-election, trying to get
- 29:24in first time, or just the the nominal
- 29:26person that's trying to decide what to
- 29:28do?
- 29:28>> Be like Poland.
- 29:30Be brave.
- 29:31Say it as it is.
- 29:33Do not take money from anyone.
- 29:34Simple as that.
- 29:36If you're owned, you cannot do You can't
- 29:38make your own You cannot make your own
- 29:39decisions. Be brave.
- 29:42That's that's the only That's the only
- 29:44way.
- 29:45If they call you fascist, doesn't
- 29:47matter. If they call you Islamophobe,
- 29:49doesn't matter. You look what's what's
- 29:50happening in Texas and Michigan with
- 29:52these mosques. In Texas.
- 29:54>> I don't Texas one is not It's what's
- 29:55happening outside of Dallas.
- 29:56>> a madness. And everyone knows, based on
- 30:00our experience in Great Britain and hate
- 30:02preachers, that mosques are are used uh
- 30:05as a centers of terrorism. Everyone
- 30:07knows that and nobody does anything
- 30:09about it.
- 30:09>> Yeah. Did you see this video in New York
- 30:11where Mondaire went up and spoke and
- 30:14then he gets off stage and the Imam
- 30:15comes on and starts talking about death
- 30:17to infidels. And it's like, does is
- 30:20anyone
- 30:20>> And then he's laughing with AOC during
- 30:22the 9/11 memorial. It's It's It's
- 30:24disgusting.
- 30:26I cannot believe it happened in New York
- 30:28after 9/11. I'm I'm really surprised.
- 30:30But people of New York, I'm very sorry.
- 30:32I I I love many of you, but you're you
- 30:34to pay the price? He's a communist. What
- 30:37he was
- 30:38>> [snorts]
- 30:38>> The first thing he said he's going to
- 30:39lower taxes. The first thing he first
- 30:41decision he put the taxes up. The people
- 30:44they have to pay more for their
- 30:45apartments. It's a fact.
- 30:47>> Rent Rent is the highest it's ever been
- 30:49right now.
- 30:49>> Yeah. So uh
- 30:52I I think what what I'm going to be very
- 30:54much involved in midterms. There are
- 30:56three candidates I'm going to I'm going
- 31:00to endorse and work for. Like in
- 31:03Pennsylvania you've got over 800,000
- 31:05Polish diaspora. It's It's It's a lot
- 31:07when you have had to had it's it's a
- 31:08very important.
- 31:10So I'm [snorts] going to work uh
- 31:11I'll I'll try my best to uh to support
- 31:14Republicans. And And again people are
- 31:17asking why do you care about America?
- 31:18America uh
- 31:20>> [groaning]
- 31:21>> doesn't elect you. They're not electing
- 31:23you. Why you care? Because if America is
- 31:25weak, Europe is gone.
- 31:27>> Huh.
- 31:28>> It's a fact. I mean we can say we can
- 31:31say that we are country don't care about
- 31:32anyone else. But you know
- 31:35the world doesn't look like that. So I
- 31:36want strong America. I do not want
- 31:39communists. I'm going to be very much
- 31:40involved. I'm going to do this
- 31:42lectures on
- 31:44uh on communism. I'm trying to reach a
- 31:46young younger people students to
- 31:48challenge them to discuss about what
- 31:50communism is. Uh
- 31:52what what forms communism has now around
- 31:54the world and America. So
- 31:57there's a lot of work.
- 31:58Uh I'm proud
- 32:01I am the I am the one who
- 32:04who's fighting communists. But
- 32:08the reason I do what I do
- 32:11is very personal. I don't think I told
- 32:14you this story.
- 32:16When
- 32:18Germans attacked
- 32:20my grandfather obviously fought against
- 32:21Germans.
- 32:24When Soviet Russia took over
- 32:27after 1945
- 32:30my grandpa said no. The war did not end.
- 32:33We've got new occupier.
- 32:35We've got communists and Poland is not
- 32:38free. I'm not going to stop fighting.
- 32:40So, he became um
- 32:44the guy in charge of underground army
- 32:47fighting in the forests.
- 32:49Outcast soldier.
- 32:51He was 27.
- 32:56And recently I I I found out that
- 33:00the only safe place
- 33:03they they had at the time, 27-year-old
- 33:07was a cemetery and empty graves,
- 33:10holes actually, not used yet.
- 33:13This is where they slept after 1945 as a
- 33:16soldiers. This is where he slept with
- 33:18his soldiers.
- 33:19He was under communist surveillance
- 33:21until 1969.
- 33:24My father was a founder of a solidarity
- 33:26in my hometown.
- 33:29My mom was spit on as a daughter of a
- 33:31bandit
- 33:33by the communists.
- 33:35So, I decided I'm going to be a
- 33:36prosecutor. And I'm going to put all the
- 33:38communists to the jail for what they did
- 33:40to my mom, spitting on her physically.
- 33:43But I found out that
- 33:4625 years ago
- 33:48prosecutors in Poland they were actually
- 33:49communists as well. So, I decided I'm
- 33:51going to be a politician. I have to be
- 33:53above them. I have to create law, not to
- 33:55react by the law.
- 33:58So, what I do is very personal to me. I
- 34:01hate them.
- 34:02I hate communists. I know what they did
- 34:04to my family, what they did to Poland,
- 34:06what they did to Europe.
- 34:09And um
- 34:11the reason I'm giving you my my story is
- 34:13because
- 34:15it's different when you're a politician
- 34:17and this is your job. This is my life.
- 34:20This is what why I do what I do.
- 34:23I started when I was 16.
- 34:25I wanted a revenge on communists for
- 34:28spitting on my mom.
- 34:30My home home, the whole house was wired.
- 34:34And when my mom was trying to have a
- 34:36conversation with my dad about Poland,
- 34:38about faith, about church, about family,
- 34:40they have to go out
- 34:42and they were doing a walk to the
- 34:43cemetery, to the place where my grandpa
- 34:45was sleeping.
- 34:48So, it's natural for me to fight
- 34:50communism. I'm going to fight it till
- 34:52the end of my life.
- 34:54And jihadists are as bad, as dangerous,
- 34:56as communists. They want to take over.
- 34:59>> Does the marriage of communism and
- 35:02jihadism seem just obvious to you?
- 35:04>> that's obvious bound. It's obvious.
- 35:06Who's supporting Who's supporting Hamas?
- 35:09>> Yeah.
- 35:10>> The leftists. When you see campuses,
- 35:13all the lefts are supporting Hamas.
- 35:15All the left are
- 35:18laughing at 9/11 memorial.
- 35:21Left and jihadists are cancer to this
- 35:24world.
- 35:25I'm going to heal this world, I believe,
- 35:27with the help of friends from American
- 35:29and other places, Brazil and others. We
- 35:31have to work on it. We have to fight for
- 35:32our freedom, and this is not just a
- 35:34slogan. I mean physical freedom. During
- 35:37communism, I I and during the war and
- 35:39after the war, my grandpa was
- 35:42was a prisoner.
- 35:44Uh and and then my father was
- 35:47We went through terrible terrible
- 35:49things.
- 35:50Russians
- 35:52for food.
- 35:54We had like a sugar,
- 35:56like I don't know,
- 35:58like that per month for the whole
- 36:00family.
- 36:01Is this what you want in America in 20
- 36:03years?
- 36:04Is this what you want? Because people
- 36:05think that if communists will take
- 36:07power,
- 36:08nothing will change. There will be
- 36:10equality. Yeah, everyone was equal,
- 36:12equally hungry. Right.
- 36:14That was equality under socialism.
- 36:16People do not know. They think that this
- 36:19beautiful word socialism means equality.
- 36:22How naive you are. How stupid you are.
- 36:27And every single time I'm trying to ask,
- 36:30"Give me an example
- 36:32of socialist country, not even a
- 36:33communist,
- 36:35but it's the same, but give me a
- 36:36socialist system and socialist country
- 36:39better than America. One.
- 36:44>> Yeah.
- 36:45>> There's no better place
- 36:47and it's not only
- 36:48>> Who believes?
- 36:49>> No. You cannot give me an example
- 36:52because it doesn't exist. All you have
- 36:54is North Korea and as well
- 36:56Cuba, [laughter]
- 36:58Belarus.
- 36:59This is This is They are socialists,
- 37:02communists. This is what it is. So, I
- 37:05cannot understand why people
- 37:08are thinking
- 37:09that capitalism is so bad because you
- 37:12have to work.
- 37:13Oh, that's bad.
- 37:16You see, there is so much
- 37:18There is so much manipulation
- 37:21in the media, especially on the social
- 37:23media. Qatar is spending a lot of money
- 37:26fighting their jihad and spreading Islam
- 37:29and this and that. Communists, they
- 37:31they're as we know, most of the
- 37:33mainstream media are left, right?
- 37:37How can we fight? We have to work
- 37:38harder. We have to do as much twice as
- 37:41much or triple times more than others.
- 37:44That's the fact.
- 37:46It shouldn't be like that. That's the
- 37:47reality. Do not cry, fight.
- 37:49>> It's a strange thing, I suppose, that a
- 37:52country has to be invaded by communists
- 37:54and Nazis to really understand
- 37:56>> Sometimes, you have to touch the bottom.
- 37:58I do not want America to touch the
- 37:59bottom. You do not deserve that.
- 38:01>> I've I'm going to give you a copy of my
- 38:03book when I leave, but I wrote about my
- 38:05my uncle. So, it's my father's sister.
- 38:07He married my my aunt. His family from
- 38:10Poland, Jews, and
- 38:12>> Really?
- 38:12>> when the when the Nazis came, he had a
- 38:15young daughter.
- 38:16>> Mhm.
- 38:17>> She had a I actually can't remember what
- 38:18her name was, but it was a traditionally
- 38:20Jewish name and they didn't know what to
- 38:21do. And And she was about 3 years old
- 38:23and they convinced her over a series of
- 38:25weeks that her name was Mary.
- 38:26>> Okay.
- 38:27>> And he dropped her off at a convent
- 38:29>> Mhm.
- 38:30>> because he he was going to go into
- 38:32hiding, but he thought maybe that would
- 38:33keep her safe. They kept her at the
- 38:35convent for about 5 years and when the
- 38:37war ended, he went back to the convent
- 38:39to try to get her. She barely remembered
- 38:41him. He was able to identify because he
- 38:43knew he she had It's It's just crazy
- 38:45It's crazy. I have a movie. She had a
- 38:46like a birthmark over here. He actually
- 38:49got shot on the way trying to rescue her
- 38:51because they they believed he was trying
- 38:53to kidnap her.
- 38:55Um and then you can imagine the scars
- 38:56that the family went through for for
- 38:58years and years and years. But I I
- 39:00mention that because you're a country
- 39:01that has lived through both of those
- 39:04horrors and in a weird way that now
- 39:05offers you that great protection.
- 39:08>> Well, I think God
- 39:11gave us some
- 39:13about
- 39:1450 years of peace now and prosperity for
- 39:17all the suffering we went through
- 39:20throughout the ages.
- 39:22And I do not want you
- 39:25Americans to touch the bottom and lose
- 39:28your sovereignty. And because you see
- 39:32everyone in America thinks that America
- 39:35will always be great, free, freedom of
- 39:38speech, this and that.
- 39:40When war started
- 39:45many people
- 39:47didn't know that
- 39:49it's going to be so horrible. And I
- 39:52watched the documentary with the
- 39:54testimonies of those who survived.
- 39:57And the guy was asking them, "Why didn't
- 39:59you just run?"
- 40:01And they were like,
- 40:02"But nothing was going on." Well,
- 40:05>> You're talking about when the Nazis were
- 40:06taking over.
- 40:06>> Yes. Yes. Yeah. Well, Germans came into
- 40:08the city. They put some posters.
- 40:12Then they put more posters. Next day
- 40:15they asked us to stay away from this
- 40:17part of the city. And every day slay
- 40:20slice by slice they were losing their
- 40:22freedom and they were not they they
- 40:24couldn't believe
- 40:26what is happening because they had no
- 40:28imagination. No one is ready to imagine
- 40:34war in America or America under um
- 40:38communists
- 40:39rules. I mean real communist rules. It's
- 40:42going to I hope it's not going to
- 40:44happen, but if you will not stop it in
- 40:45the beginning, there will be
- 40:48uh next slices of your freedom.
- 40:50>> Right. It's interesting cuz America,
- 40:51which was born under revolution, we're
- 40:53also an armed populace. We have great
- 40:54separation of powers. It seems to me,
- 40:56and because of our melting pot, it seems
- 40:58to me we have a better, the way we've
- 41:00integrated people, where in Europe you,
- 41:02you know, largely kept people sort of in
- 41:04the country but in separate places and
- 41:07thought of as differently. It seems like
- 41:08we have a lot of protections against it,
- 41:10but in a weird way, I'm also starting to
- 41:12think that's our weakness. Is that they
- 41:14might just that we've been able for 250
- 41:16years to sort of put to bed ancient
- 41:18hatreds, but the communists through
- 41:20identity politics are
- 41:22unearthing stuff that we really put to
- 41:24bed, and then it could be
- 41:25>> Okay. Would you, if if someone
- 41:28would
- 41:29tell you
- 41:3025 years ago, 25 years.
- 41:33>> No, I didn't
- 41:33>> 25 years ago.
- 41:36If someone would tell you that in 25
- 41:39years
- 41:40supporting jihadist
- 41:42communists will be a mayor of New York
- 41:45City, and he will have a beautiful full
- 41:47laugh, laughter during the memorial in
- 41:4925 years, would you believe that?
- 41:52>> No, I wouldn't.
- 41:52>> I wouldn't. I wouldn't. We I don't want
- 41:56you to wait another 25 years
- 41:58and find out that communists are in
- 42:00courts, government, uh capital in in
- 42:04general, that communists are taking
- 42:06over.
- 42:06>> Right. Well, we probably lost a lot of
- 42:08the courts already and
- 42:10>> So, do not wait 25 years. Act now. Act
- 42:13now. Everyone can do whatever, I mean,
- 42:15not everyone is born to to have, you
- 42:17know, to be a good speaker or do the
- 42:19media, but everyone has a Instagram,
- 42:21Facebook, X, and everyone can go, you
- 42:23know, take to the streets.
- 42:24>> So, do you think that if the midterms go
- 42:27well for the Republicans that Donald
- 42:29Trump with 2 years left, after
- 42:31everything he's done to wake people up
- 42:33to the border, after what's gone on in
- 42:35Europe with
- 42:36immigration and all of this stuff, with
- 42:38everything happening right now with the
- 42:39communists and the jihadists and
- 42:41everything, do you think Donald Trump
- 42:42would really do all the things that you
- 42:45would want him to do, that you think
- 42:46that the Europeans need to do?
- 42:48>> Okay, I'm going to say something,
- 42:50>> [clears throat]
- 42:50>> which is unpopular now, but I'm going to
- 42:53say it.
- 42:55Donald Trump is the best president of
- 42:57the United States in the history.
- 43:01I'll say it I'll I'll say it I'll say it
- 43:02again. Donald Trump is the best
- 43:05president of the United States in the
- 43:06history. And I know it's going to be a
- 43:08lot of a lot of
- 43:09people who disagree but when
- 43:13Reagan was great. He and John Paul II
- 43:16freed Poland and Europe from communism.
- 43:18But the conditions surrounding was
- 43:20completely different.
- 43:22The way they attacked Donald Trump is
- 43:25you never happened in in the history of
- 43:28this country. I'm going to be the first
- 43:29one to to build a statue to this man in
- 43:31Europe. I'm serious. I'm going to do it.
- 43:33I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to do
- 43:34it.
- 43:35He saved the world from the wokeness.
- 43:38Try to imagine what would have happened
- 43:39if Kamala would be a president now.
- 43:42Not mentioning Biden.
- 43:45That would be a disaster.
- 43:46>> border would be wide open again.
- 43:47>> Nobody Nobody's perfect. Nobody's saint.
- 43:51We are just human beings. We made
- 43:53mistakes, right?
- 43:56I think he is the best president because
- 43:59what he did
- 44:01for us, for Polish, for Europe
- 44:04no what no one ever did apart from
- 44:07Reagan. No one ever.
- 44:09So there is hundred hundreds of reasons
- 44:12I can I can I can tell you why he is the
- 44:14best president. He's not saint. He's not
- 44:16closer not not me.
- 44:18Not everyone. We made mistakes.
- 44:20>> Mhm.
- 44:21>> And a politi you know, politics is a
- 44:23very
- 44:24live organism. There are many vac-
- 44:27vectors changing the situation.
- 44:30But there was no one better to bring
- 44:33this American pride back.
- 44:37Uh
- 44:37to take care of uh to take care of
- 44:39Poland and Europe in general.
- 44:41>> So so how how long was
- 44:42>> to do to do what should be done for 47
- 44:45years with Iran. People are angry
- 44:47because you have to pay for the war this
- 44:48and that. There was no one
- 44:51brave enough to stop this madness with
- 44:53jihadists. we know that Iran paid for
- 44:56Hamas, for uh for ISIS, for Boko Haram
- 45:00in Nigeria. They are sponsoring
- 45:02everyone. Then we've got terrorist
- 45:04attacks around the world, and everyone
- 45:05is surprised how is it possible. After
- 45:0747 years since revolution started, now
- 45:12we have a chance for free Iran. Do you
- 45:14know how many thousands of Iranians are
- 45:17sending you messages, "Please help us.
- 45:19Please help us." Over 40,000 people
- 45:21killed. Do you know if they would finish
- 45:23their program, nuclear program, only
- 45:25Portugal would be maybe
- 45:28would survive. The whole Europe would be
- 45:30covered with the with the rockets, not
- 45:32mentioning Europe uh America, obviously.
- 45:34People are not realizing sometimes you
- 45:36have to pay for your insurance.
- 45:39Sometimes you have to do it. This is the
- 45:41insurance. If they would
- 45:42If they would finish this program, that
- 45:44would be it.
- 45:45So he knew that he's going to pay a huge
- 45:47political price because people do not
- 45:49like spend money on wars, this and that.
- 45:52But sometimes when you get a bad tooth,
- 45:55you have to get rid of it and paid for
- 45:57it. It's painful, costly, but you have
- 45:59to do it.
- 46:00You have to do it. And I think there's
- 46:03from my perspective, European
- 46:04perspective,
- 46:06he's the bravest.
- 46:07He He He didn't have to do it with all
- 46:09his money, connections, lifestyle. He
- 46:12didn't have to do it.
- 46:13>> No.
- 46:13>> He did. I was campaigning I was
- 46:15campaigning for him.
- 46:17Uh I was with him I was with um
- 46:20I went to uh Salem, Virginia, and other
- 46:23places.
- 46:24And I saw him be behind the stage
- 46:27before he went out.
- 46:30He's a He's a lion.
- 46:32>> Yeah.
- 46:33>> he is a lion. He is uh He's a a great
- 46:37example. Great example of a man, of a
- 46:39politician.
- 46:41I'm I'm I'm absolutely I'm going to do
- 46:43whatever I can to support uh Republicans
- 46:46and Donald Trump.
- 46:47>> So what do you think it looks like? What
- 46:48What do you think he has left to
- 46:50accomplish? What do you think he can do
- 46:51to push back these bad forces?
- 46:53Obviously, we're seeing the rise of
- 46:55communism or socialism or jihadism or
- 46:57whatever you want to call that monster,
- 46:59the red green alliance. Let's say
- 47:01>> Mhm.
- 47:01>> he they keep the house in the Senate.
- 47:03Now he has 2 years never to run for
- 47:05re-election again.
- 47:06>> going to be hard.
- 47:07>> He They're both going to be hard.
- 47:08Senate's getting weird. Well, Senate
- 47:10Senate's getting really weird because of
- 47:11what's happening in Texas. As you
- 47:12mentioned Texas before, they may vote in
- 47:14a guy who's as far left as you can buy
- 47:16He's not a full jihadist, but he's a
- 47:18full lefty. So
- 47:19>> Right.
- 47:20>> Let's just try to the good version,
- 47:22right? The bad version is it all just
- 47:23ends in two in 6 weeks basically because
- 47:25they'll impeach him. But the the good
- 47:27version, so let's say Trump without
- 47:29having to run for re-election has the
- 47:30house and the Senate again. What do you
- 47:31think those 2 years look like?
- 47:34>> Well, I think
- 47:36that's a very good question. I I I I
- 47:38think he would be
- 47:39he would prove that nation is behind his
- 47:43back, that that he has supported
- 47:46that he has a free
- 47:48will to do what he promised to do.
- 47:50Administration will be brave enough not
- 47:53to be worried about AOC comments and
- 47:56others.
- 47:57Uh they would be they would be a
- 48:00a fresh power and
- 48:02self-awareness that we are able to do
- 48:04what we promised to do, deliver it, and
- 48:06he would have power to do it. And
- 48:09And I think, you know, it's a last 2
- 48:11years, so you are
- 48:13brave. You can do things very unpopular,
- 48:16but uh needed to be done.
- 48:18Obviously, we do not know who's going to
- 48:20be next president. There's no nominee
- 48:21yet. There's no
- 48:23candidate yet.
- 48:24Uh
- 48:25probably someone from this
- 48:27administration. I'm not going to mention
- 48:29names because we don't know.
- 48:30>> We can think of the main two. Yeah.
- 48:32>> [laughter]
- 48:32>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 48:33>> So So
- 48:34>> By the way, I see no point in getting
- 48:35involved in that either. I like both of
- 48:37them.
- 48:37>> Both are great.
- 48:38>> Everyone knows who we're talking about.
- 48:39I like them both. And it's just like
- 48:40it's so freaking early. Let this all
- 48:42play out and let them have a contested
- 48:44convention. I think that's what Trump
- 48:45wants and he'll
- 48:46>> Yeah, it's going to happen. It's going
- 48:48to happen.
- 48:48>> show called the straw
- 48:49>> in time. So we'll see. They They've got
- 48:51talented. They've got, you know, they
- 48:53they both great.
- 48:54>> Yeah.
- 48:54>> So uh yeah, I think I think it's needed
- 48:57to
- 48:58to just like Iranians send me a message
- 49:01is asking "Tell President Trump to
- 49:03finish the job.
- 49:04Just finish the job and let
- 49:07next one to follow your
- 49:09footsteps because he's a great leader.
- 49:11And when I mentioned this statue, I was
- 49:12very serious. I'm going to do it. I'm
- 49:14going to be the first one to do it to
- 49:16say thank you. We got uh
- 49:18Ronald Reagan's statue in Warsaw. Why
- 49:20Why can't we have Donald Trump? I think
- 49:22it's great. When you look from the
- 49:24distance,
- 49:25when you're not looking at today's
- 49:27events, but when you look from the
- 49:28distance, within the time,
- 49:31he's going to be missed so much as a
- 49:33president. People will realize how great
- 49:36president he was.
- 49:37>> I agree with
- 49:37>> How he
- 49:39make you proud. He made you proud as a
- 49:42nation. And this is the most motivation
- 49:45for work, for whatever you do in life,
- 49:48for your family. Everyone is pride again
- 49:53in America. And this is so American.
- 49:55This is what America was known for for
- 49:57so many years. You lost it
- 50:01a couple years ago.
- 50:0310 years ago, let's say.
- 50:04>> Yeah.
- 50:05>> 15 years ago. But you are so back now.
- 50:08You are so back now.
- 50:10>> for 4 years, yeah.
- 50:11>> I'm I'm so jealous for you. I mean, I'm
- 50:13proud of Poland. I love my homeland.
- 50:16I do whatever I can. Uh my political
- 50:18motto be like Poland comes from my
- 50:20speech in the European Parliament when I
- 50:23when I point them and I said
- 50:26be like Poland or you will die
- 50:29within a 10 years.
- 50:31Be like Poland, stop them or you will
- 50:32die. Be like Poland, be pride. Be like
- 50:35Poland, don't take money from Russians.
- 50:36Be like Poland, this and that. That's my
- 50:38political motto and I really strongly
- 50:40believe that be like Poland means much
- 50:43more
- 50:44than Poland itself. It's an attitude.
- 50:47It's the way of thinking about your
- 50:48nation, about your patriotism, about
- 50:51being a man. It's It's a manhood, too.
- 50:53Yeah, to be to
- 50:55to be responsible for your actions,
- 50:58think about future and others, and leave
- 51:00this place better when you're gone.
- 51:03We need a legacy. We need to be more
- 51:06than eat and sleep. We need to be
- 51:08someone
- 51:09who history will judge as a good man. To
- 51:11be a good man is to love your own
- 51:13country. Sometimes this love is hard.
- 51:16Just like in a relation, but you still
- 51:18love this country. So, my
- 51:23My message would be, please, do not let
- 51:27communists take over this beautiful
- 51:28country.
- 51:30>> And that is how you end an interview.
- 51:32>> Thank you so much. Thank you for having
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