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What Does the Quran Really Say About Jesus’ Crucifixion? — Transcript

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  1. 0:00[Music]
  2. 0:17hi everyone welcome back to unveiling
  3. 0:19Islam I'm David wood here with brother
  4. 0:22Rasheed hello uh brother
  5. 0:24Rasheed Christians and Muslims do
  6. 0:27agree on some things like you know God
  7. 0:30created the universe and God has
  8. 0:32revealed scriptures and God has sent
  9. 0:34prophets and yes even on Jesus we agree
  10. 0:38on a number of things
  11. 0:41interestingly the one of the issues we
  12. 0:44disagree on is according to actual
  13. 0:47historians one of the best established
  14. 0:49facts of ancient history and that's the
  15. 0:51crucifixion of Jesus um actual Scholars
  16. 0:55even if they're atheist or agnostic
  17. 0:56Scholars Jewish Scholars they grant that
  18. 0:59Jes Jesus death by crucifixion is an
  19. 1:02established fact of history and so it's
  20. 1:05interesting that here's an area where
  21. 1:08Islam teaches one thing Christianity
  22. 1:10teaches something else and the evidence
  23. 1:12is massively in favor of one view over
  24. 1:15the other but for everyone who's not
  25. 1:17familiar with this issue what do we
  26. 1:20actually what do we find in the Quran
  27. 1:22the Quran denies Jesus crucifixion at
  28. 1:26least in one
  29. 1:27verse for uh it's the famous One
  30. 1:33for7 the ver the the chapter of the
  31. 1:37woman and it says and for their saying
  32. 1:41means the Jews and In this passage it's
  33. 1:44a this passages criticizing various uh
  34. 1:48things that that Jews are saying did and
  35. 1:50one of them is they're saying indeed we
  36. 1:54have killed the Messiah and actually the
  37. 1:56Jews Jews never said we killed the
  38. 1:59Messiah boast about killing the Messiah
  39. 2:01yeah but anyway we just like you read it
  40. 2:05if if you're bragging about killing him
  41. 2:06you obviously don't believe he's the
  42. 2:07Messiah you know it it contradicts
  43. 2:10itself but we just let it go g indeed we
  44. 2:15have killed the Messiah Jesus the son of
  45. 2:18Mary the messenger of Allah look he's
  46. 2:20also messenger of Allah the Jews are are
  47. 2:23bragging that they killed the Messiah
  48. 2:24the messenger of Allah and they did not
  49. 2:27kill him okay nor did they crucify him
  50. 2:32okay but another was made to resemble to
  51. 2:37resemble him to them it appeared to be
  52. 2:40that they crucified him but it was
  53. 2:41somebody else and indeed those who defer
  54. 2:46over it are in doubt about it like they
  55. 2:49are just assuming they have no knowledge
  56. 2:52of it except the following of assumption
  57. 2:56and they did not kill him for certain
  58. 2:59this is one of the translations so for
  59. 3:02certain they didn't kill him yes they
  60. 3:04didn't crucify him yes it was made to
  61. 3:07appear to them that they did kill him
  62. 3:12this seems confusing what what's going
  63. 3:13on here the story goes like this you
  64. 3:16have to dig into commentaries and that's
  65. 3:18what happened to me actually this this
  66. 3:22subject was the turning
  67. 3:25point in my life towards
  68. 3:27Christianity I took the CR fixtion I
  69. 3:31waited the the arguments from the Quran
  70. 3:34from the commentaries and the arguments
  71. 3:36from Christians and I found out that the
  72. 3:39the Bible has or the gospel has more to
  73. 3:42support the claim that Jesus was
  74. 3:44crucified than the Quran The Story Goes
  75. 3:47litics Jesus was about to get
  76. 3:51crucified
  77. 3:53then there are versions of course yeah
  78. 3:56matter of fact almost every Muslim
  79. 3:57commentary I open up gives a different
  80. 4:00gives different details they keep the
  81. 4:01same they usually keep the same general
  82. 4:03principle but they'll give different
  83. 4:05names and different situations and so on
  84. 4:07one of them as Jesus said who is going
  85. 4:09to volunteer take myage he he he takes
  86. 4:13volunteers who's going to who's going to
  87. 4:14volunteer Peter says yes
  88. 4:16me so the the the image of Jesus was
  89. 4:20just transferred to Peter and Peter to
  90. 4:24Jesus miraculously so they came they
  91. 4:26took Peter They Crucified him thinking
  92. 4:29he was Jesus and then that's it Jesus
  93. 4:32granted him Paradise he said who's going
  94. 4:34to volunteer and I give him Paradise
  95. 4:37that's one version another one Judas
  96. 4:39when he came to kiss Jesus and G um uh
  97. 4:44surrender him to the Jews and Soldiers
  98. 4:47god turned Judas to Jesus and Jesus
  99. 4:50looked like
  100. 4:52Judas another one one of the Roman
  101. 4:55soldiers became like Jesus and then he
  102. 4:59was screaming I'm Not Jesus and nobody
  103. 5:02believed him because he looked like him
  104. 5:04so these are the stories there was
  105. 5:06another one where uh Allah made everyone
  106. 5:08look like Jesus everyone they have many
  107. 5:10jesuses so they couldn't pick one they
  108. 5:12just picked a random guy who was not
  109. 5:14Jesus and they crucified him and when I
  110. 5:17was reading this I was like can we agree
  111. 5:20on one at least so I can respond to
  112. 5:23those Christians we have no one
  113. 5:27narrative and by the way those
  114. 5:30commentaries where did they get the name
  115. 5:32of
  116. 5:34Judas of Peter of Roman soldiers they
  117. 5:38got them from the gospel the same book
  118. 5:40they are trying to
  119. 5:42contradict so you are taking all the
  120. 5:45details from the book you
  121. 5:48think is corrupt and talking about Jesus
  122. 5:51crucifixion it doesn't add up and so uh
  123. 5:55you you you have these different
  124. 5:56commentaries and they take these
  125. 5:58different approaches and to to to be
  126. 6:00fair in case there are any ismeli
  127. 6:01Muslims uh watching isi Muslims actually
  128. 6:05interpret the entire passage differently
  129. 6:07to so that it agrees that Jesus was
  130. 6:09crucified but the the by far the
  131. 6:11dominant position in Islam has always
  132. 6:13been it's interesting because some of
  133. 6:15them uh are the are the the volunteer
  134. 6:18versions and some are the punishment
  135. 6:20versions so some of them Jesus looks for
  136. 6:21a volunteer I don't want to be crucified
  137. 6:23so will one of you take my place and
  138. 6:25Allah will give you a reward he became
  139. 6:27coward at the end and somebody was Brave
  140. 6:29and I I thought that's Muhammad that's
  141. 6:31not Jesus because that's what Muhammad
  142. 6:33did under the Battle of when he was
  143. 6:35about to be killed seven of of his
  144. 6:39companions he asked who is going to give
  145. 6:42himself and I'll give him Grant him
  146. 6:44Paradise seven of them were
  147. 6:47killed so actually Muhammad sacrificed
  148. 6:50people for him Jesus sacrificed himself
  149. 6:53for people that's a different story and
  150. 6:55so that seems to be why Muslims wouldn't
  151. 6:57have a problem with Jesus uh being a
  152. 6:59coward at the end and change you know
  153. 7:01having someone be crucified in his place
  154. 7:04but then you have the punishment
  155. 7:05versions where some you know Allah's
  156. 7:08punishing someone like Judas shame on
  157. 7:09Judas for being a traitor something like
  158. 7:12that I'm I'm bringing that one up
  159. 7:13because that seems to be the dominant
  160. 7:15position that I hear from Muslims at
  161. 7:17least in the west today yeah it's and
  162. 7:19they view it as that's more just in
  163. 7:22Christianity the innocent Jesus is
  164. 7:23crucified but in Islam the guilty Judas
  165. 7:27is punished and so Allah Allah
  166. 7:30got Justice for here is the problem that
  167. 7:32was created in my mind when I was
  168. 7:35comparing these
  169. 7:37stories first of all then the gospels
  170. 7:40were right they were not lying because
  171. 7:44the ones who saw Jesus they went by the
  172. 7:48appearance they wrote what they saw so
  173. 7:52why blame them for claiming that Jesus
  174. 7:56was crucified because they had no way to
  175. 7:59know know what happened behind the
  176. 8:01scenes they saw Jesus clearly on the
  177. 8:05cross they wrote it down so the question
  178. 8:09the most important question here who
  179. 8:11created Christianity in this
  180. 8:14case is Allah himself mhm who created
  181. 8:19this confusion Allah himself and then we
  182. 8:22come as Muslims when we blame them why
  183. 8:25he waited six centuries to send a
  184. 8:28messenger to tell them by the way mhm it
  185. 8:32was a hidden camera I tricked you I
  186. 8:34tricked you oh God big prank for six
  187. 8:38centuries we believe Jesus was crucified
  188. 8:41then at the end you send a messenger who
  189. 8:44showed the whole he'll exposed the whole
  190. 8:47trick you could have done it right away
  191. 8:50the first day and notice this this
  192. 8:52completely derails everything that Jesus
  193. 8:54did according to Islam so according to
  194. 8:56Islam Jesus is going around uh preaching
  195. 8:59saying hey everyone just believe in
  196. 9:00Allah and submit to Allah and that's
  197. 9:03what he's telling his followers and his
  198. 9:04followers become devout Muslims and then
  199. 9:07Allah tricks people into believing that
  200. 9:09Jesus is crucified and Christians then
  201. 9:11run around saying ah Jesus died on the
  202. 9:13cross for our sins and so on and so
  203. 9:15where did they get that idea Muslims
  204. 9:16like to blame they'll say ah you know
  205. 9:18the Council of NAA corrupted
  206. 9:19Christianity or the Apostle Paul
  207. 9:21corrupted Christianity you're pointing
  208. 9:22out it's Allah who corrupted
  209. 9:24Christianity and and derailed the entire
  210. 9:26message if we have anybody to blame for
  211. 9:30the spread of Christianity it was Allah
  212. 9:33himself if he did indeed change the
  213. 9:36picture of whoever was the guy for Jesus
  214. 9:41and another thing when we dig we know
  215. 9:44that heresies came in the second century
  216. 9:48that said Jesus was not crucified but in
  217. 9:50a sense that's not mentioned here that
  218. 9:54the uh Jesus was not Material was not
  219. 9:57made of matter they believed he was only
  220. 10:00Divine and not and didn't have a human
  221. 10:02nature he he he had like some kind of um
  222. 10:07hologram body and then they CR When They
  223. 10:10Crucified him they they are not actually
  224. 10:12crucified him and that's why it it came
  225. 10:15from the Greek word do or doio which
  226. 10:18became theism the the the it appeared to
  227. 10:22them that they crucified Jesus but in
  228. 10:25fact he's not really a matter to be CR
  229. 10:28crucified
  230. 10:30and if if Muslims took it from there
  231. 10:32they have another problem they are
  232. 10:34following heresies yeah so they they
  233. 10:37adopted their view of what happened to
  234. 10:40Jesus from people who it's as you
  235. 10:43pointed out it's so weird because the
  236. 10:45Islamic view is Jesus is just a man and
  237. 10:47he's not this um this uh sort of divine
  238. 10:50Spirit or something like that in dotism
  239. 10:53that they were it was the opposite he's
  240. 10:55he doesn't have a body therefore God
  241. 10:57must if God had crucified it must have
  242. 11:00been someone else who's made to look
  243. 11:01like him and then this ends up in the
  244. 11:03Quran where it makes it makes absolutely
  245. 11:05no sense yeah so the crucifixion of
  246. 11:08Jesus Christ made me change my opinion
  247. 11:11about Christianity and I was like if we
  248. 11:13are in front of a judge and I give him
  249. 11:16all these versions I don't know who was
  250. 11:19Muslims cannot tell us who was crucified
  251. 11:22in the place of Jesus when that happened
  252. 11:26the change the whole thing they cannot
  253. 11:29tell us anything about details what
  254. 11:31happened exactly where was Jesus after
  255. 11:34that where did he go did he meet other
  256. 11:37disciples did he tell them it wasn't me
  257. 11:39we have no details it's just a single
  258. 11:42verse and no details a single verse no
  259. 11:45details all their interpretations of the
  260. 11:47verse uh completely contradict each
  261. 11:50other and the great irony is that that
  262. 11:52verse says that people who believe that
  263. 11:54Jesus is crucified are the ones in doubt
  264. 11:56yeah and the certainty is on the side of
  265. 11:58the people who say was it yeah uh all
  266. 12:00right so I I yeah guys this is a this is
  267. 12:03a pretty big Islam Islamic problem here
  268. 12:05for the Quran because we know
  269. 12:08historically Jesus died by crucifixion
  270. 12:10and the mus the most popular Muslim
  271. 12:12response is no no no Allah tricked
  272. 12:15people into believing that which would
  273. 12:17mean that
  274. 12:18Allah started Christianity by accident
  275. 12:22or deliberately but he's the one who
  276. 12:24corrupted it and I would just say as far
  277. 12:25as the the standard Islamic view of
  278. 12:29today the most common one I hear that it
  279. 12:30was Judas think about the complete
  280. 12:33gospel reversal there yeah that
  281. 12:35according to the Bible the innocent
  282. 12:38Jesus died on behalf of guilty Sinners
  283. 12:42and then Islam completely flips it so
  284. 12:45that the guilty Judas dies on behalf of
  285. 12:48the innocent Jesus if anything would
  286. 12:52qualify as an antichrist view I'd say
  287. 12:56it's that

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