What Does It Really Mean to Be Financially Smart? | Money Moves: The Rich Woman Way — Transcript
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- 0:00[muziki]
- 0:02Ah.
- 0:07[muziki]
- 0:13>> [muziki]
- 0:20[muziki]
- 0:24>> Welcome back to Money Moves the Rich
- 0:26Woman Way, the podcast where we unpack
- 0:28the realities of building and of course
- 0:30explore stories, lessons and mindsets
- 0:34that pave way for opportunities like
- 0:36financial freedom, sustainable growth,
- 0:39financial empowerment and of course
- 0:41generational
- 0:42wealth Wendy K is my name your host for
- 0:44today and always I'll pass it over to
- 0:46the beautiful rady on my right kama
- 0:49kawaida today we are having a new signal
- 0:53location tuko outside the leg side yeah
- 0:56they have a beautiful background and we
- 0:58are so excited because we are having an
- 1:00amazing guest for you today and I would
- 1:03like to just give a brief but I want to
- 1:06let her introduce herself she is a woman
- 1:09>> she is a woman that has done it all
- 1:13>> from humble backgrounds to where she is
- 1:15right now. Oh my god. Like you can't
- 1:17wait for this. And it's not just a story
- 1:19cuz money moves is not just about the
- 1:23the laid back or the the polished
- 1:26version.
- 1:29kwa
- 1:31kunafanana aje na leo tutachanganya
- 1:33lugha kidogo
- 1:36>> maanake mchanganyiko itafanyika leo so
- 1:39ladies and gentlemen let me
- 1:41>> introduce let me welcome the beautiful
- 1:44>> wow
- 1:45>> the bold
- 1:46>> m
- 1:46>> eh
- 1:47>> mh
- 1:48>> the wis buse every time we sit down with
- 1:51her we are just [kicheko] taking not
- 1:53right
- 1:53>> naamini
- 1:55>> thank you thank Thank you. Thank you.
- 1:57Thank you guys.
- 1:59That is so awesome. Thank you. I'm so
- 2:03happy to be here. Asanteni sana sana.
- 2:06Kama mlivyosikia jina langu ninaamini
- 2:09Obura. Yeah. I am a kisumian.
- 2:13Yeah. This is my home. I'm not about to
- 2:15move very soon.
- 2:17Yeah. And we love talking about money
- 2:21because [kuimba]
- 2:22somehow money moves things, right? Yeah.
- 2:25>> And of course we have money moves the
- 2:26rich way. Right. Yes. Of course.
- 2:28Somebody for somebody who does not know
- 2:30you, who are you? Who are you? What do
- 2:32you do? Um
- 2:34>> yeah. Tell us tell us tell us about
- 2:36yourself.
- 2:36>> Okay. Naamini is a mother, Namini is a
- 2:40wife, naamini is a business woman.
- 2:44Mimi ni mfanyiashara ambaye nimekithiri.
- 2:48>> Yaani ina maana nina mizi.
- 2:51Hapa katika [kicheko] huu wa Kisumu.
- 2:53>> Wow. How many years in business?
- 2:56>> Ah since more than 15 years.
- 2:59>> Wow. Wow.
- 3:01M just in Kisumo.
- 3:03>> Oh yeah.
- 3:03>> Okay. So for our listeners to anyone who
- 3:07is watching you or listening to you
- 3:09today, you know, we have a lot of
- 3:10information about money on social media
- 3:13platforms, right? Why should they listen
- 3:15to Naamini today?
- 3:17>> Well, kwa sababu unajua um pesa
- 3:22>> watu wameweka sana wameweka sana
- 3:26wameweka sana mambo mengi kwenye pesa. M
- 3:29>> Lakini pesa wanadamu tunaihitaji
- 3:31>> kweli
- 3:32>> katika kila kitu tunachofanya
- 3:34>> mh
- 3:35>> inahitaji pesa.
- 3:37>> Unaelewa?
- 3:37>> Kwa hiyo ni kitu ambacho watu
- 3:39hawaongelei kwa sababu labda hawana ile
- 3:41confident ya kuongelea kuhusu pesa.
- 3:44Lakini pesa ni kitu kinahitajika. Kwa
- 3:46hiyo ni kitu ambacho tunatakiwa
- 3:47tukiongelee
- 3:48>> na ni kitu ambacho tunatakiwa tukizoee.
- 3:50Usiseme tu sijui pesa ni ya yule ama ni
- 3:52ya yule.
- 3:53Hata wewe unaweza kuwa nayo.
- 3:55>> Oh interesting. Interesting.
- 3:58>> Na hata hivyo ukikuwa nayo unaweza
- 4:00unaweza jifunza jinsi ya kuitumia
- 4:03so that you have you keep on having buse
- 4:06it's one thing to have the money and
- 4:09it's another thing sorry to keep to keep
- 4:12money and use it well. Pesa inataka
- 4:14discipline. Inataka discipline. Inataka
- 4:16uiheshimu
- 4:18kwa sababu inakuseme inasolvia
- 4:22inakuondolea matatizo fulani hapa na
- 4:25pale.
- 4:25>> Kwa hiyo ukipata hiyo pesa unatakiwa
- 4:29ujue vile unaweza itunza na vile unaweza
- 4:33endelea kuwa nayo mpaka wakati ule
- 4:35ambapo
- 4:35>> m
- 4:36>> hutahitaji tena. Na huo wakati ni wakati
- 4:38umekufa. Of course.
- 4:38>> Umekufa.
- 4:41katika safari yako ya kuiguza pesa maybe
- 4:45you explain to us maybe share with us
- 4:47when was the first time you interacted
- 4:49with money when was as naamini mara
- 4:52yangu ya kwanza sasa nimepata pesa right
- 4:55take us through that you know that
- 4:57journey how was it when was the first
- 4:59time you literally interacted with money
- 5:01or let's go back to her childhood first
- 5:04buse I believe that is where it all
- 5:06starts that's the foundation right just
- 5:08tell a bit about your childhood. Yeah.
- 5:11>> Okay. Naamini amelelewa katika maisha ya
- 5:13kimaskini.
- 5:14>> Ah
- 5:15>> siwezi sema kivingine zaidi ya hapo.
- 5:18Yaani wanasema stinking rich. Mimi ni
- 5:22yule nililelewa katika maisha ya
- 5:24stinking poor.
- 5:25>> You know maisha ya kimaskini maisha
- 5:27yenye hayakukuwa yana usingejua lunch
- 5:30itatoka wapi. You know sapa itatoka wapi
- 5:33kama utakula ama hautakula. M
- 5:35>> kwa hiyo nimelelewa hivo mpaka mpaka
- 5:37miaka mpaka miaka 19
- 5:40katika hiyo hali. Lakini hapo katikati
- 5:44ilinibidi nianze biashara m
- 5:46>> kwa sababu najisaidia mwenyewe kusoma.
- 5:49Mh. Tulikuwa watoto wengi. Babangu
- 5:51alizaa watoto wengi.
- 5:53>> Kwa hiyo ah katika ile kunani
- 5:57kukosa kile kitu ambacho msichana
- 5:59anataka ilinibidi nianze kufanya
- 6:01biashara ndogo ndogo kama kashata. kuuza
- 6:03kashata shuleni. nilijifunza kuuza
- 6:05kashata nikiwa na miaka sijui 12 unajua
- 6:08>> m
- 6:08>> kwa hiyo nikawa nina zinanisaidia ni
- 6:10shilingi shilingi tulikuwa tunauza
- 6:12>> lakini zilikuwa zinanisaidia kununua
- 6:14vitu vidogo vidogo vyangu mimi mwenyewe
- 6:16labda viblauzi ya visketi unajua kwa
- 6:20sababu baba yetu alikuwa kwa sababu ya
- 6:21watoto wengi anachoangalia cha muhimu ni
- 6:23shule na chakula
- 6:25>> kweli
- 6:25>> hayo mavazi nini hiyo ilikuwa ni luxury
- 6:28unajua so ilinibidi mimi mwenyewe nianze
- 6:32kusimama na kuangalia vile nitaishije,
- 6:35nitafanyaje ili niweze kupata vile vitu
- 6:38vingine alafu hakukukuwa na option kama
- 6:39zenye ziko saa hizi sijui wababa sijui
- 6:42wa nini sisi hatukukuwa na hizo option
- 6:44>> eh
- 6:45>> hatukukua watu walikuwa hatukukuwa
- 6:47tunafikiria m hata siku moja sijawahi
- 6:49fikiria kitu kama hicho unajua
- 6:51>> so ah katika hiyo kupata nikaona
- 6:54biashara kale kabiashara kakashata
- 6:56kanafanya nikaanza kujiwekea m
- 6:59>> sitaki kuitumia yote kwa sababu
- 7:01ninaogopa kukosa buse ninajua maisha ya
- 7:03kukosa yalivyo.
- 7:05>> So kutokana na kukosa nilijifunza kuweka
- 7:08>> ndio niweze kuitumia wakati ule
- 7:10ninahitaji. M
- 7:11>> and then nikaendelea kujitrain sasa
- 7:13nikawa nikiweka shilingi 20 naona m
- 7:16nimefanya kitu niweke tena 20 naona
- 7:18nimefanya kitu. Kitu kimoja ningesema
- 7:21>> mh
- 7:22>> watu wengi wanadharau pesa ikiwa ndogo.
- 7:25>> Ah
- 7:26>> unaelewa kweli?
- 7:27>> Ah sasa nalipwa 1,000 nitasave nini na
- 7:31nivae unaona? Lakini kumbuka milioni
- 7:35moja inaanzia na shilingi moja
- 7:37>> kabisa kabisa.
- 7:39>> Mimi hata huwezi nipata unakuta sasa
- 7:40hivi shilingi hazitumiki tumiki sana na
- 7:43unaweza pata sometimes you have them in
- 7:44your bag.
- 7:46Mi ikianguka utaona venye naconcentrate
- 7:48kuitafuta
- 7:50because yaani because it is important to
- 7:53you might not know but it is important
- 7:56and once you take seriously the issue of
- 7:58money utaanza kubadilisha maisha yako.
- 8:02haijalishi unafanya kazi gani ni kidogo
- 8:04ama ni kubwa unaweza kuwa
- 8:07>> mh
- 8:08>> so kile napata what I'm picking is your
- 8:11first interaction with money was wakati
- 8:14ulianza kuzi zile kashata aha ukaanza
- 8:18kujiweka pesa pole pole pole pole pole
- 8:20pole kukijinunulia viblozi visketi ili
- 8:24at least you get a way of keeping
- 8:26yourself given the background that you
- 8:28are coming from right so what did that
- 8:31do to your mind at that age you 12
- 8:34>> I was 12
- 8:34>> 12 what did that do to your mind right
- 8:38um buse you know as a child sisi tukiwa
- 8:39miaka 12 my god si tulikuwa tunafikiria
- 8:42vitu vingine vile right of course yeah
- 8:45um so what did that do to your mind as a
- 8:48child right looking back now as an adult
- 8:50what did that do to your mind as a child
- 8:53>> okay um nikiangalia kwa sasa hivi
- 8:56>> m
- 8:58>> i see myself that i was a very little a
- 9:00very smart little girl. Yeah, I was a
- 9:04very smart little girl because there
- 9:06what I learned for myself, on myself
- 9:11pekee yang unajua
- 9:13>> hicho kitu nilichojifunza ni kwamba
- 9:15kimenifanya niwe who I am today. M
- 9:18>> yeah kwa hiyo
- 9:20I'm proud of myself. M
- 9:22>> Yeah. I'm very proud of myself for doing
- 9:25that because it has made me learn. And
- 9:27right now even when I have that money I
- 9:30am still I'm disciplined. Very
- 9:32disciplined. Yeah.
- 9:34>> So basically
- 9:35ilikuwa ni kama tabia ulijifunza
- 9:38>> buse you talk about she talks about
- 9:40discipline a lot and what I'm getting is
- 9:43ni
- 9:44>> it's more than kujua nafaa kuweka. Ni
- 9:47ile ku
- 9:48>> kufika mahali yenye una yaani ni hali
- 9:52yako ya kila siku.
- 9:54[kicheko] Karakta yangu ni hali yangu ya
- 9:56maisha. M so kama unaweza kama unaweza
- 9:59weka 20 bob unaweza 20,000
- 10:02>> kabisa
- 10:02>> na kama huwezi weka 20 bob hiyo 20000
- 10:04ndio utaweka
- 10:06>> utaweka and we say here a lot of times
- 10:08that unajua and and I love that she's a
- 10:11practical example tunasemanga hata kama
- 10:13uko na hiyo kidogo you can still keep it
- 10:15away you don't have to wait at wait ile
- 10:19day itafika 1,000 ndio mimi nitaanza
- 10:20kusave ama ile day itafika 10,000
- 10:23ndio nitaanza kusave buse haitawahi
- 10:25fikafika So ni ile inafaa kuwa ni hali
- 10:29unajifunza kama wewe discipline ni akuwe
- 10:33ni wewe tu yaani ni wewe in
- 10:3710 20 30 40 in one thing um
- 10:45savings now that you're talking about
- 10:46savings is
- 10:48>> save as soon as you earn
- 10:50>> don't spend and then ile imebaki ndio
- 10:52unakumbuka oh nafaa kuwa naweka kitu
- 10:55kitu kidogo asve
- 11:00as
- 11:03not saving saving to invest
- 11:06na imagine ukishaweka yes utanunua vitu
- 11:10zako lakini hiyo pesa umeweka kuna yenye
- 11:12utarudi kuongeza stok
- 11:14>> right
- 11:15>> kama unaona nilivyokuwa ninauza kashata
- 11:17niliuza kashata nikauza kashata nikatoka
- 11:20>> nikarudi shule
- 11:22>> kwa hiyo sikukuwa nafanya vitu tena
- 11:23lakini nilikuwa na hela ninaweka
- 11:26Kwa hiyo baada ya hapo nikaanza sasa
- 11:27kufanya nauza viingua nimepanda bei
- 11:30bwana kwenye [kicheko] kashaka
- 11:33kwenye
- 11:33>> nimepanda kwenye eh nina nani niko
- 11:36kwenye vipuli nauza vipuli nauza bangili
- 11:38nauza visa ninaendelea kupanda panda
- 11:41naendelea kupanda sasa lakini sasa
- 11:43savings yangu si ile ya utoto tena
- 11:46>> sasa hivi niko na goal sasa ninaona I
- 11:48can have a boutique I can have you know
- 11:51so unakuwa na nani na mtazamo pia pamoja
- 11:54anakuwa una ile hela
- 11:56>> unatakiwa ujiambie unaenda wapi unataka
- 11:58nini
- 11:59>> what's your why you just saving averal
- 12:03saving ever [kicheko]
- 12:06>> lazima ukuwe na goal
- 12:08>> hii ndio nataka
- 12:09>> na ni kitu gani kizuri ninapenda kufanya
- 12:13>> usifanye kitu kwa sababu
- 12:15>> m
- 12:16>> faith anafanya ama nani ahah usifanye
- 12:18kitu it's the in thing kwanza hicho kitu
- 12:21kiko sana hapa kisumu ni mtu amefungua
- 12:23popcorn mwingine anataka kufung fungua
- 12:2410 akun knockout badala afikirie kitu
- 12:28chake cha kufanya. Unaona? [kicheko]
- 12:30So nani? Unakuwa na ni nini ni wapi
- 12:33ninaenda
- 12:34>> ni nini ninataka
- 12:36>> alafu katika kutembea pale endelea kuona
- 12:39katika mawazo yako
- 12:40>> m
- 12:41>> who do you want to be.
- 12:43>> Wow.
- 12:44>> Yeah. Envision who you want to be and
- 12:47>> always envision and because that one
- 12:49will give you a guide. m
- 12:51>> eh itak nataka kukuwa mtu fulani siku
- 12:54moja
- 12:54>> m
- 12:55>> nataka kukuwa mtu fulani kwa hiyo tembea
- 12:57katika hiyo njia ukijua ndio nauza ereni
- 13:00lakini pale ndio naenda
- 13:01>> mh meaning this like if you know where
- 13:05you're going hiyo inamaanisha haufai
- 13:08kuwa na aibu ya biashara ahah
- 13:10>> hata kama leo wewe ndio unauza hiyo
- 13:12earring hafai buse unajua mahali una
- 13:15>> nikuambie faith unajua nilivyokuwa nauza
- 13:17earing sikukuwa ninauza eti ninauza
- 13:20mahali
- 13:21Nilikuwa nafanya Tanzania tunaita
- 13:23umachinga m
- 13:24>> hapa Kenya mnaita nini? Hoker
- 13:26>> hawing nilikuwa nafanya hawing
- 13:30kwamba nilikuwa eti nimekaa very
- 13:32beautiful place ninafanya no nilianza na
- 13:34kufanya hawing nilikuwa nabeba mabag
- 13:36mikono inauma usiku jioni nikifika
- 13:38nyumbani nakuwa kama nimetoka gym lakini
- 13:41ni bags zangu za hwing nimebeba huku
- 13:42nimeweka sijui nini nimeweka sijui nini
- 13:44natembea kupanda ngazi kwa maofisi uuzie
- 13:47wanaume mashati uuzie nikaja nikaanza
- 13:49kuongeza za mashati nikaanza kuongeza
- 13:51vipochi vya wamama unajua kwa hiyo si
- 13:55kwamba tulianzia eti na very beautiful
- 13:57place we started by hawking so you must
- 14:00start from somewhere what I'm getting is
- 14:02do not despise humble beginnings because
- 14:04it is the humble beginnings that I've
- 14:06got you to where you are todayakupeactly
- 14:11>> exactly kuna kitu umesema I want to
- 14:14touch on it umasesema enzi zenu hamkuwa
- 14:17na wababa hii enzi zetu tuko na wababa
- 14:20Sasa [kicheko]
- 14:22kwa sababu tuko na wababa
- 14:24>> tuweke pesa tusiweke pesa
- 14:26>> m
- 14:27>> tuwafuate tusiwafuate.
- 14:29Give us your eh
- 14:32>> kwanza
- 14:33>> ehe
- 14:34>> kwanza mimi nitasema na mtanisamehe sana
- 14:37>> mosikiliza.
- 14:38>> Ehe
- 14:38>> mimi nawachukulia watu wanaotafuta
- 14:40wababa kuwa ni wanawake dhaifu.
- 14:43>> Okay.
- 14:44>> Wanawake ambao ni lezi. Mh
- 14:47>> kwa sababu ngoja nikuambie
- 14:49>> ehe
- 14:49>> nikupe mfano je huyu mbaba ehe
- 14:52>> m
- 14:53>> huyu mbaba angekuwa tu amekaa pale pale
- 14:55barabarani hana kitu chochote
- 14:57>> m
- 14:58>> amevaa nguo zake tu za kawaida jasho
- 14:59limemtoka m
- 15:01>> m
- 15:02>> anauza labda karanga m
- 15:04>> m
- 15:04>> mh
- 15:05>> ungempenda
- 15:06>> ah hata ungemwangalia
- 15:08>> hata usingemwangalia ukweli wa mambo
- 15:09ndio hivemuona hata kama angekuwa ndio
- 15:12handsome old guy handsome boy
- 15:16Silver Fox.
- 15:17>> Yes. Silver Fox. [kicheko]
- 15:19>> Hata ungekuwa Silver hakuna mtu
- 15:20angemwangalia kwa sababu yuko pale
- 15:22anauza. Nani anataka kutuende tukauze
- 15:23karanga na wewe?
- 15:24>> Napenda vile fedha. Ako very active.
- 15:26[kicheko]
- 15:29Eh
- 15:32so kwa hiyo ina maana wewe uliwinda
- 15:35>> m
- 15:36>> ukamuona ana gari la aina hii ana
- 15:39familia maybe aina hii mahali anakaa ni
- 15:41mahali fulani labda hujui mahali labda
- 15:43mahali ulipompata ukamuona ni mahali
- 15:44ambapo ni klasi
- 15:46>> ukajiavail
- 15:47>> kweli
- 15:47>> wewe ni msichana lezi
- 15:49>> that is the bottom line m
- 15:52>> lakini kuna msichana anasema eh lakini
- 15:53wewe huelewi situation yangu mi nataka
- 15:56anipee capital ndio nianze nianze
- 15:58biashara yangu unaweza ambia huyo
- 15:59msichana nini kwa
- 16:00>> pesa yoyote inayopatikana kwa urahisi
- 16:02huwezi heshim
- 16:03>> samahani kwa sababu on the same breath
- 16:06we have women who are you nini who are
- 16:10advising young girls to do that
- 16:12>> eh kuna wenye kwa podcast kama the way
- 16:15tunakaa podcast hivi na wanakuambia eh
- 16:17vaa hivi in fact vaa klasi hivi eh
- 16:20ukienda tembea hii style
- 16:24>> nywele ikae hivi eh wewe instead of
- 16:27kuinvest kwa biashara wewe invest kwa
- 16:29nguo nzuri ndio ufanane klas yake ndio
- 16:33akuone
- 16:35eh so that akutoe poverty
- 16:38ama ama anakuambia they make it sound
- 16:40very smart anakwambia sasa akikupa hiyo
- 16:42pesa usiende shopping nayo sasa
- 16:45akishakupa hiyo pesa enda sasa uinvest
- 16:47nayo. So instead of kuteseka kwa jua
- 16:50labda ukiwenda endaenda tu eh
- 16:53ujiposition tu kwa mbaba enda enda kesha
- 16:55enda nini jiposition tu akikupea capital
- 16:59>> uanze. Sasa naweza sema unajua ukikuwa
- 17:03katika ukiwa na pesa
- 17:04>> kuna kitu inaitwa discipline
- 17:07>> saa ile unaijenga ile hela
- 17:09>> unakuwa na discipline umeelewa
- 17:11>> ehe
- 17:12>> unlike yule mtu mwenye ametoka ameenda
- 17:14kwa mbaba akapewa milioni moja hajawahi
- 17:17fanya biashara
- 17:19hajawahi hajawahi hajawahi jua kusave
- 17:22yaani hajui kitu chochote. yeye
- 17:24ameambiwa tu wewe nenda katafute capital
- 17:26ukipata hiyo capital yako ya shilingi
- 17:28200 ununue vitu ambavyo utatafutia tena
- 17:31capital nyingine. Unajua huyu sasa huyo
- 17:33ndio biashara yake hiyo ndio biashara
- 17:35yake. Let's just name it the way it is.
- 17:38You know we just name it the way it is.
- 17:40If you tell me to dress up
- 17:42>> so that I can attract something then
- 17:44that is my business. M
- 17:46>> alafu itafika mahali labda kama amekuwa
- 17:49na akili nadhani labda Mungu amjalie
- 17:51aseme okay labda labda nifungue
- 17:53biashara. Lakini huwezi niambia mtu
- 17:55ambaye amepata pesa kiurahisi anaweza
- 17:58aiheshimu atafanya hata ile ataenda
- 17:59ataha fun akijua s kuna yule nilipata
- 18:02huyu mbaba wa 200 si niende ninunue nguo
- 18:05alafu niende nikatafute mwingine wa
- 18:07milioni moja unaelewa alafu milioni moja
- 18:10ikifika itakuwa kidogo asema ah sasa si
- 18:12niende nikatafute some MP somewhere or
- 18:15some politician somewhere mwenye yuko na
- 18:17pesa nyingi mwenye atanipeleka na ndege
- 18:19hafikirii
- 18:21>> hii hela sianze biashara anania niache
- 18:22hiki kitu
- 18:25>> huyo hiyo ndio biashara yake haijalishi
- 18:27how much utaiweka
- 18:29>> ifanane nzuri
- 18:32>> you know you should
- 18:36>> akishapata hiyo 200 ataenda kujinunulia
- 18:38nguo unafikiri atataka tena kwenda ku
- 18:41atoke hapo aende akafungue biashara ya
- 18:43kufanya hawing ndio ajibuild anaona this
- 18:46hii ngazi ni rahisi kupanda
- 18:48>> kushinda hii ya kwenda kutafuta kutafuta
- 18:51bidhaa za kuuza nita nitafute client
- 18:54nitalipa kodi na nini unaona hii ni
- 18:56haraka haraka biashara hiyo ni kama
- 18:58biashara
- 18:58>> hiyo ni biashara kuna biashara kuna wale
- 19:01ambao watakaa
- 19:03>> wataenda mahali tunawajua tu hao
- 19:05wanakuanga mahali fulani ukienda pale
- 19:06wanaume wakitaka wanaenda pale
- 19:07wanawachukua wanaenda kuna hao na kuna
- 19:10wale smart yaani wako na grades
- 19:12[kicheko]
- 19:13>> unaelewa
- 19:14>> kuna wale ambao wako ndio hao wewe nenda
- 19:17tu tafuta vaa vizuri eh hakikisha uko
- 19:21smelling good M do man ni hiyo biashara
- 19:25tu. ni hiyo
- 19:26>> what
- 19:28>> so okay it's
- 19:31>> okay just no you [kusafisha koo] know
- 19:32I'm just like reflecting buse una the
- 19:35bababa thing
- 19:37>> it starts as early as campus
- 19:39>> m yeah
- 19:40>> unapata mtu mtoto wa university
- 19:43>> ako na ako na gari
- 19:45>> mh
- 19:45>> ako na ako na sijui anaishi kwa
- 19:47apartment
- 19:48>> m
- 19:50>> but nimela flight
- 19:51>> booking flights
- 19:53>> so kwa nje unaweza ona it's a very rosy
- 19:55picture lakini what I'm getting is it's
- 19:58a trap because
- 20:00discipline what makes you teaches you to
- 20:03keep money you don't get that character
- 20:06buse money is a behavi behavioral
- 20:09um
- 20:10>> it's behavioral it's your behavioral
- 20:13skill yeah that will make you keep the
- 20:16money but if you don't have the
- 20:17behaviorial skill you keep spending and
- 20:19going back to the same cycle same cycle
- 20:22>> alafu unajua pesa pia ina nguvu yake mh
- 20:24>> ukiwa nayo unaweza jisau haraka sana
- 20:27>> inakuongelesha
- 20:28>> ah pesa inaongea na inaongea vizuri.
- 20:32[kicheko]
- 20:32>> Eh inaongea vizuri kwa sababu iko. Eh
- 20:35>> kwa hiyo unatakiwa ndio hiyo discipline
- 20:37ni kitu cha maana sana
- 20:39>> kwa sababu pesa itakuambia pesa
- 20:41itakuonyesha vitu vizuri.
- 20:43>> Itakuonyesha begi nzuri. Itakuonyesha
- 20:45nyumba nzuri. Wewe umetoka huko kondelea
- 20:47unataka kuja kuishi milimani sijui
- 20:48unataka kuja kuishi kwa apartment. Yaani
- 20:50pesa inakuambia njoo niko njoo niko
- 20:54unaelewa m alafu ukishiwa inakuambia
- 20:57sasa si ulinitumia
- 20:58>> m
- 20:58>> umebaki hapo pekee yako
- 21:00>> buse most of these relationships hata
- 21:03kuoa tuseme tu ukweli
- 21:05>> huyo hata kuoa
- 21:06>> mh
- 21:07>> ah atakuoa nani alikuambia and na
- 21:10>> na hao wasichana na hao pia watakuambia
- 21:12nani alikuambia mimi nataka anioe
- 21:14>> lakini unajua it's it's as long as
- 21:17you're young
- 21:18>> ndio hiyo market ama hiyo biashara
- 21:19inatrive Mhm.
- 21:20>> Mh.
- 21:21>> Hiyo tati za
- 21:22>> hiyo biashara inaisha fashion inaisha
- 21:23fashion haraka
- 21:26haina haina haina matumaini haina
- 21:29matumaini ya miaka yako ijayo. Ngoja
- 21:31kitu kimoja unajua ukiwa msichana hivi
- 21:33hivo vuko eh
- 21:35>> ukiwa hivo nakuambia mbichi tuseme
- 21:37mbichi. Eh
- 21:39>> unajua
- 21:40>> huamini kama utafikisha miaka 40 ya
- 21:42>> unaona iko mbali. m
- 21:44>> unaona iko mbali sana
- 21:46>> m
- 21:47>> na wakati huu muda ndio umepewa wa
- 21:50kujengea miaka 50 kwa sababu haiko mbali
- 21:52inaonekana iko mbali machoni pa watu
- 21:55machoni pako kwa sababu wewe ni mdogo
- 21:57lakini hiyo miaka haiko mbali
- 22:00>> na ndio utapata mtu mzima atakuweka kwa
- 22:03apartment
- 22:05atakununulia chakula
- 22:06>> atakupa kila kitu unachokihitaj
- 22:08>> mh
- 22:09>> m
- 22:09>> mhm
- 22:10>> kumbuka unapewa you are not training
- 22:14yourself
- 22:15>> to do anything.
- 22:17This man when you are 30 ataona mtoto wa
- 22:21miaka 18
- 22:24hapo. Kwisha wewe kwisha wewe.
- 22:26>> Ataona mtoto wa miaka 25
- 22:29>> wewe uko 30 ushaanza kuchakaa. Unaanza
- 22:31kuchanika.
- 22:33>> Unanielewa? Tamani yako inarudi chini
- 22:36>> kwa macho ya huyo huyo mtu.
- 22:37>> Kwa huyo mtu thamani yako inarudi chini.
- 22:40>> Kwa hiyo unakuwa wewe mwenyewe hujifunzi
- 22:43vile ambavyo utajisaidia
- 22:46baadaye.
- 22:47>> M
- 22:48>> kama mtu anajifunza vile anajisaidia
- 22:50baadaye ni sawa. Lakini watu wengi mara
- 22:53ngapi mmesikia kuwa mmesikia nadhani
- 22:56mimi nimeshasikia sijui nyinyi
- 22:57>> mmesikia mara ngapi celebrity wanatafuta
- 23:01mchango wachangiwe
- 23:02>> mara mingi
- 23:03>> wachangiwe. Hujawai kutana nayo?
- 23:06>> Nimekutana nayo
- 23:07>> kwa nini? Na wanashika hela na wanaitwa
- 23:08mpaka celebrity. M
- 23:11>> kwa nini wako na hiyo tag? Ina maana
- 23:13there is time they have the money.
- 23:15>> M
- 23:16>> Yeah. Na hawa ni watu wanafanya kazi.
- 23:18Kumbuka
- 23:18>> mh
- 23:19>> wanafanya kazi kuwa where they are
- 23:22>> m
- 23:22>> na wakapoteza
- 23:24mpaka kiasi kwamba labda tatizo
- 23:26linampata inabidi watu wamchangie.
- 23:29>> Sasa mara ngapi wewe ambaye umechukuliwa
- 23:30na mbaba?
- 23:34>> Mhm.
- 23:39>> Right. So kile kile napata what I'm
- 23:43getting is it is easier to thamini to
- 23:47respect what you your had and money
- 23:51>> kuliko handouts zile unashinda umepewa
- 23:53huku pale huku pale handouts
- 23:56>> haijalishi ni milioni moja
- 23:58>> ni milioni mbili they are just handouts
- 24:00m
- 24:01>> yeah you've not worked for them
- 24:03>> so you can't even you can't even see
- 24:06value. hauna value hata kuitumia
- 24:09wanasemaje?
- 24:11Ni kama vile unasema ukikuja kuniomba
- 24:14marashi ju
- 24:15>> eh utaweka nya utajispray kweli kweli
- 24:19notuse it's not yours when it's the pain
- 24:23yes
- 24:24>> easy come easy go
- 24:29>> m
- 24:32[kicheko]
- 24:34>> no it's like it's really important that
- 24:36We hear these things because
- 24:39>> wakati mtu ako hapo ndani haoni haoni
- 24:42mbele like you said haufikiri kama
- 24:45utakuwa 50 years one day haufikirii kama
- 24:48unafikiria ya saa hii unasema yolo you
- 24:50only live once eh na saa hizi unasema ah
- 24:53si kesho itajipa si nitapata mwingine
- 24:56>> lakini you never know huwezi
- 24:58>> you never know and there are so many
- 25:00risks and yaani ile kuweka your future
- 25:02kwa mkono ya mtu
- 25:04>> m
- 25:05>> it's risky na hata ni mtu mwenye hujui
- 25:07haujui. It's risky risky risk.
- 25:09>> Haya niwape mfano mfano uliye hai
- 25:12kwanza.
- 25:13>> Ehe
- 25:13>> this lady ambaye sitaki kumtaja jina
- 25:16huyu msichana ambaye alikufa na mimba.
- 25:19>> Oh tunamjua.
- 25:20>> Ehe ambaye alikufa na ujauzito.
- 25:23>> Si alikuwa anapiga picha na mandege.
- 25:26Alikuwa anapiga picha kwenye mahoteli
- 25:27nini nini. Alikuwa na kijana. Eh alikuwa
- 25:31na high profile alikuwa na high profile
- 25:33now akaja akaaga dunia sindio
- 25:36>> alivyokufa mliona kwao
- 25:39>> we niambie si alikuwa si alikuwa na nani
- 25:42alikuwa anapata hela
- 25:43>> alikuwa anapewa hela
- 25:44>> sasa mbona hakutengeneza nyumbani
- 25:47>> mbona hakutengeneza mahali ambapo
- 25:49angerudi hata akienda basi
- 25:51>> m
- 25:52>> aonekane ni mtu wa
- 25:53>> alikuwa anaishi high profile but you
- 25:55know nyumbani ni nyumbani siku moja
- 25:57utarud
- 25:58>> mh
- 25:59>> siku moja utarudi
- 26:00>> kweli kweli
- 26:00>> si tunarudi wote kuwasalimia wazazi wetu
- 26:03is [kusafisha koo]
- 26:04>> sasa ndio nasema easy come easy go
- 26:07hakudhamini ya kuwa wacha nianze kama
- 26:11hakudhamini kuanza kutengeneza mahali
- 26:13anatoka mpaka kujitengeneza yeye
- 26:16mwenyewe alidhamini kuvaa alidhamini
- 26:18kwenda kwenye hoteli nzuri ndio hivy
- 26:20pesa pesa inaongea inakuambia unaenda
- 26:22nyumbani kufanya nini hutarudi huko
- 26:23ushapata
- 26:25ushapata huko ni nyumbani usipoteze pesa
- 26:27yako M
- 26:30>> wewe jjoy. Unapewa hii umeshaipangia.
- 26:33>> M
- 26:34>> unapewa hii ushaipangia. Unapewa hii
- 26:36ushaipangia.
- 26:36>> Na seizo inakata kidogo
- 26:37>> inakata.
- 26:39Mh.
- 26:41Sasa what would you advise? Huyo
- 26:44msichana L anakuona na anasema eh
- 26:47>> naskia kitu unasema lakini tayari niko
- 26:50hapo
- 26:52naweza naweza what can I do to change
- 26:55and make now nisiend up kwa hiyo
- 26:58statistic wenye wanabaki sawa
- 27:00wamedhaifika nimekusikia
- 27:03>> sasa naweza fanya nini ukiongelesha
- 27:06msichana unaweza mwambia nini
- 27:07>> kujitoa
- 27:08>> m
- 27:08>> wasichana kuna kazi [kusafisha koo] M
- 27:10>> kuna kazi ambazo usichague kazi
- 27:12>> m
- 27:13>> m kwanza usichague kazi
- 27:15>> okay
- 27:15>> ukichagua kazi hakuna mahali utaenda
- 27:17wanasemaje achaguaye jembe sio
- 27:19>> mkulima
- 27:20>> m
- 27:21>> sasa usichague kazi na watoto yaani it's
- 27:24very sad like the gnz watoto wetu wa
- 27:26sasa hivi sio kama sisi venye tulilelewa
- 27:30unaona sisi tulilelewa tofauti
- 27:32>> kwa hiyo
- 27:33>> kwanza msichana asichague kazi
- 27:35>> okay
- 27:35>> usidharau shilingi 500 unayotengeneza
- 27:38>> shilingi 1000 unayetengeneza usidharau.
- 27:42M
- 27:42>> mimi nilianzia hapo katika kutengeneza
- 27:44shilingi 1000 kwanza nilikuwa
- 27:45natengeneza wewe unasema nini 100
- 27:49unauza 100 naona kama nimeuza 10,000
- 27:52>> you know na ilikuwa nika shilingi 100
- 27:54nguo zilikuwa bei rahisi tunaenda Mtumba
- 27:56tunachagua chagua ah tunakaa poa
- 27:58jumapili tukienda kanisani tunakaa
- 28:00vizuri unaona
- 28:02>> hivo hivo hivo hivo nikaanza kukua
- 28:05nikaanza kukua nikaanza kukua kwa sababu
- 28:07gani nilitunza kuanzia pale nilipoanza
- 28:09na unajua vile nilivyokuwa naendelea
- 28:11kufanya nilikuwa napata ninapata yaani
- 28:14ni kama unajitrain
- 28:17>> unapata training over and over as you go
- 28:19as you go as you go so anza mahali na
- 28:23kama umejikuta hapo uko ndani za already
- 28:26basi labda ufuate hiyo ufuate nani
- 28:29ufikirie kutoka mh
- 28:31>> usifikirie kukaa pale for long unaona
- 28:34>> fikiria kutoka
- 28:36>> mh
- 28:36>> kwa hiyo kile ambacho unakipata
- 28:39>> jifikirie kufanya kile kitu
- 28:40unachokipenda enda
- 28:41>> m
- 28:42>> like huyu mtu hata kwanza biblia inasema
- 28:44mtegemeaye mwanadamu alaaniwe
- 28:45>> m
- 28:46>> sasa wewe unamtegemea mwanadamu huyo
- 28:49mbaba ni mwanadamu already unaoperate
- 28:51katika laana
- 28:52>> m w
- 28:54>> eh
- 28:54>> eh unaoperate katika laana
- 28:56>> mh
- 28:57>> ategemee mwanadamu alaaniwe. Mhm.
- 28:59>> Una katika hiyo hujui kitu chochote
- 29:01ambacho unatakiwa kufanya. Wewe
- 29:04unangojea kupewa na pia utadharauliwa.
- 29:07Wacha nikuambie
- 29:08>> Mhm.
- 29:09>> Mwanume hamheshimu mwanamke ambaye hana
- 29:11hela haki.
- 29:13Hauna pesa hutapata respect.
- 29:15>> Mhm.
- 29:16>> Hautapata respect. Wewe ni ombaomba. ni
- 29:19vile tu labda hawezi kukuambia
- 29:21>> kwa nini umtegemee mh
- 29:25kwa nini umtegemee mwanadamu
- 29:26>> lakini wana wengine wanasema aliniambia
- 29:28nikae na yeye atanichunga
- 29:31>> m
- 29:31>> m
- 29:32>> m atakuchunga ndio
- 29:34>> m
- 29:34>> lakini utanyauka kama wa rose flower
- 29:38>> m
- 29:38>> eh alafu atamtafuta mwingine na
- 29:40atamwambia vile vile anavyokuambia wewe
- 29:43>> what makes you think you're above the
- 29:45program [kicheko]
- 29:47yeah
- 29:47>> alafu Ubaya ni kwamba baada ya hapo yote
- 29:51wanarudi
- 29:52kwa hao hao watu wao wake zao.
- 29:55>> M
- 29:57>> eh that's a reality that most people
- 29:58don't know.
- 29:59>> They don't know till it happens.
- 30:03Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and
- 30:04gentlemen, the
- 30:06>> the conversation is hot. M what we just
- 30:08trying to say is wealth, building wealth
- 30:11or financial literacy is more than
- 30:13theory. M
- 30:15>> it's what it's who you are.
- 30:18>> It's who you are.
- 30:18>> When you when you when you work towards
- 30:20something, success is not an event.
- 30:23>> M doesn't happen once.
- 30:24>> Yeah. Success is the daily habits that
- 30:27you have every day.
- 30:28>> That is what makes you successful.
- 30:30behavioral skills that is skills. If you
- 30:32want to be successful at finances there
- 30:35are certain behavi behaviors that you
- 30:37have you should have you must have na
- 30:39hizo behaviors lazima ujitrain kama
- 30:41hukuwa nayo lazima ujitrain to do those
- 30:44things right
- 30:46>> na
- 30:47>> and that is why
- 30:49>> shortcuts ni long cut
- 30:50>> ni long cut
- 30:51>> m
- 30:52>> because ina
- 30:53>> utakwama
- 30:54>> utakwama
- 30:55>> right and we not wenye wana if you are
- 30:57in that situation we not trying to judge
- 30:58you all we are trying to say is
- 31:00>> hebu fungua akili
- 31:02>> akili Fungua macho.
- 31:03>> Fungua macho.
- 31:04>> Exactly.
- 31:05>> Fungua macho.
- 31:07>> Even the rich people si eti wako na one
- 31:09stream of income. Tuseme sasa labda ni
- 31:10biashara.
- 31:12That is one stream of
- 31:14ikikatika
- 31:16>> hauna mahali pa kwenda.
- 31:18>> M right.
- 31:19>> So that's the conversation we are having
- 31:20today. And and I'm learning I'm learning
- 31:23a lot. I'm learning that more than that
- 31:26money that quick fix you need that
- 31:28training hiyo discipline
- 31:30>> ya kujifunza kuweka kuweka buse kweli
- 31:33kama huwezi weka 20 bob what makes you
- 31:35think utaweka 200,000 utaweka
- 31:38>> ina maana hata ukiwa na shilingi 10,000
- 31:40yenye unatakiwa kuweka ni zaidi ya
- 31:42unayotumia
- 31:43>> m
- 31:44>> na unatakiwa kuiweka constantly and for
- 31:48a long time
- 31:50>> hutakiwi kuiweka tu kwa mwaka moja
- 31:53unaiweka kila wakati kwa muda mrefu.
- 31:58>> Patience.
- 31:59>> Patience.
- 32:00>> Kwa hiyo inataka patience ni something
- 32:02unagrow nayo everyday.
- 32:04>> Eh kuna vitu utajinyima. kuna vitu
- 32:07utasema ah in fact kwanza mimi nilikuwa
- 32:10mimi napenda napenda kuvaa
- 32:12>> kwa hiyo kitu nilikuwa napatanga
- 32:14nijitrain sana ni hiyo challenge kwa
- 32:17sababu sisi wanawake uko na viatu 10
- 32:21>> hata i wanted to ask a question on that
- 32:23we are living in a consum wanasema
- 32:26consumerism time where
- 32:29>> everything yaani social media hata saa
- 32:32hizi tu nikifungua tu simu kuingia tu
- 32:33hivi kibeti ingine imeweza
- 32:36Yaani inaniita
- 32:39unaona mpaka unakosa usingizi mimi
- 32:40nilikuwanga mpaka silali
- 32:43mimi nilikuwanga silali nafikiria tu top
- 32:45niliona
- 32:46>> nikiingia kwa botique ninaona top jamani
- 32:48ninajiambia ninasema niko discipline
- 32:50sininunu
- 32:52>> lakini itanitorcha nikirudi nyumbani
- 32:54kama sijaichukua
- 32:55>> w
- 32:56>> it will torture you just want it unaona
- 33:00>> so unatakiwa pia kuna vitu vingine
- 33:02utajiambia jamani una vibeti 10 uko na
- 33:05vibeti
- 33:06Mh.
- 33:06>> Bado kuna kingine kinakuita unaenda
- 33:08unakinunua unaweka. Jamani hivi vibeti
- 33:10hivi vipochi havikuingizii pesa ujue
- 33:14>> m
- 33:14>> havikuingizii pesa
- 33:17hizi hivi viatu havikuingizii pesa alafu
- 33:20unakuta kiatu chenyewe high heill
- 33:22>> m
- 33:22>> unaivaa labda mara moja kwa ama mara
- 33:25mbili kwa wiki
- 33:26>> alafu umeiweka
- 33:27>> alafu umeiweka tu most of the time
- 33:29imekaa more than the way you are using
- 33:31it m
- 33:32>> what if that was your money inside the
- 33:34bank or inside the somewhere unajua siku
- 33:36hizi watu hawaweki hawaweki pesa ya
- 33:38benki siku hizi bana M na wait na wenye
- 33:41wanasema you know a bug is an investment
- 33:43a good cloth is an investment hebu
- 33:46ongelesha watu
- 33:47>> hao wanafanya investment ni wale ambao
- 33:49wanaambiwa ho hiyo kitu vaa hivi fanya
- 33:52hivi uonekane hivi hiyo ni investment
- 33:54kwa sababu hiyo ni biashara unaelewa
- 33:57[kicheko]
- 33:57hiyo ni kazi kwa sababu ana nani ana
- 34:00target yake unaelewa lakini mtu kama
- 34:02mimi mimi ni mama
- 34:03>> mimi ni mk
- 34:05>> nitaweka pale kiatu nakivaa mara moja
- 34:07kwa wiki mbili
- 34:09Ah hiyo pesa nimefanyia kitu cha maana
- 34:11sana nayo. So you need you need you need
- 34:14to look at you need to have the things
- 34:15you need.
- 34:16>> Yes.
- 34:17>> Right.
- 34:18>> And know to discipline the things you
- 34:20want. You
- 34:21>> unafaa kujua nini nahitaji nini sihitaji
- 34:24vile
- 34:26delayed gratification.
- 34:29>> Sii sitapata sitapata hiyo begi nzuri
- 34:31utapata.
- 34:33Wacha nieke hii pesa kwanza
- 34:36nikikomaa
- 34:38kifedha then nitaipata.
- 34:41>> Unajua unatakiwa upike mahali ambapo
- 34:43unataka kwenda unataka kwenda Dubai
- 34:46you just take a flight.
- 34:48>> M
- 34:48>> m
- 34:48>> you don't
- 34:50>> sasa acha nichange acha nisave wacha
- 34:52Mungu afungue
- 34:55breakthrough. Hakuna cha breakthrough.
- 34:58Pesa inataka ufanye kazi. Hakuna pesa
- 35:00unapata kwa maombi.
- 35:01>> Eh
- 35:01>> kweli
- 35:02>> hakuna pesa unapata kwa maombi.
- 35:03>> Tukiambiwa receive wewe unambiwa
- 35:06receive what?
- 35:07>> Miracle money.
- 35:08>> Eh hakuna miracle. Hiyo ni uongo
- 35:10tumeambiwa kanisani for the longest.
- 35:13Ndio. Kuna wakati Mungu anashow
- 35:16>> unique way.
- 35:17>> Unique way. I'm not saying that God does
- 35:18not do that. He does that.
- 35:21>> But si kitu ati utategemea sasa as mpaka
- 35:24no bwana. Pesa inapatikana kwa kufanya
- 35:26kazi. M
- 35:27>> amka nenda kazini usiamke nenda kwenda
- 35:30mlimani kuomba.
- 35:31>> Utaamka utaenda mlimani utaomba
- 35:34utang'atwa na mbu utarudi hapa na
- 35:36malaria [kicheko]
- 35:38na bado utakuwa unahitaji pesa
- 35:40kukupeleka hospitali. Huo ndio ukweli wa
- 35:42mambo. Ah
- 35:43>> na hiyo ndio
- 35:45>> angalia hata ndugu zetu wahindi jamani
- 35:47wahindi wanaenda kazini kuanzia saa 2:00
- 35:50mpaka saa 11. Kila siku
- 35:53>> kila siku
- 35:55wanafanya kazi. Mhm.
- 35:57>> Na mamiungu yao wanaiombea huko huko
- 35:59kazini. M
- 36:00>> wewe unaenda unaenda mlimani yes
- 36:02ukiingia kwenye duka la mwindi Mungu
- 36:04wake yuko pale
- 36:05>> m
- 36:06>> ataenda kumpa maziwa atamwagia maziwa
- 36:09atamwagia pilipili sijui nini [kicheko]
- 36:12unajua atampa hivyo vitu vyote akule
- 36:15kwanza ni pilipili [kicheko]
- 36:20>> mungu afel kidogo
- 36:23>> achangamke unaona kwa hiyo mungu wake
- 36:26yuko pale
- 36:27>> ehe
- 36:27>> ako naye
- 36:28>> yeah Oh wow.
- 36:29>> Kazini
- 36:31>> anafanya kazi anatengeneza pesa na Mungu
- 36:33wake yuko pale.
- 36:35>> Wewe uko kanisani unaambiwa receive
- 36:38receive receive. Ukitoka hapo umereceive
- 36:41a lot of air. Umerudi nyumbani mtoto
- 36:43analia anataka chakula anataka school
- 36:45feees. Anataka kitu fulani unashindwa.
- 36:47Na ile yenye ulikuwa nayo pia umetoa
- 36:49umepeana imebaki pale.
- 36:50>> Eh unaambiwa nenda nenda mountain.
- 36:53Nadhani kuna mtu sijui anakufanyia nini.
- 36:54Nenda mountain. Unaenda mountain.
- 36:56ukirudi umechoka uko na umekatwa na
- 36:58mng'atwa na moskito uko na malaria
- 37:02unataka tena jirani akusaidie hela ili
- 37:04uende hospitali
- 37:06watu wafanye kazi
- 37:09toka uza nenda kibuye uza tafuta
- 37:11biashara fanya biashara tembea
- 37:13jishughulishe
- 37:14>> alafu uone kama mungu hatakubariki kwa
- 37:17hicho unachokifanya
- 37:18>> m
- 37:18>> lazima utaziona baraka kwa sababu
- 37:21unafanya kazi mh
- 37:23>> so whether it's small whether you just
- 37:26fanya just
- 37:27>> kile unachokipenda angalia kile
- 37:29unachokipenda kifanye.
- 37:31>> Mh.
- 37:33>> Usikae kusema ninaomba tunaomba we mi
- 37:36nachukia kitu kinaitwa religion
- 37:38>> nani? Religion and also this thing that
- 37:42I waiting for breakthrough.
- 37:45>> The Lord will see me through this
- 37:46breakthrough. You are breaking
- 37:49>> to go where?
- 37:50>> M
- 37:51>> Wow. Tuka open doors. Open doors. You
- 37:55waiting God for open doors. Which door
- 37:56God is opening?
- 37:58>> Inarusha mawe kwa police station. Hapana
- 38:00hapana [kicheko] hapana hapana hapana
- 38:02hapana. Wewe jipange.
- 38:04>> M
- 38:04>> wewe jipange. Wewe niambie ngoja
- 38:06nikuambie ngoja niweke hivi.
- 38:08>> Mh.
- 38:09>> Unajua itakuwa Mungu kwanza atakuwa
- 38:11hayuko fair. Kwa sababu kuna mtu anaamka
- 38:13saa 11
- 38:14>> anaenda baharini kukaa kwenye hii bahari
- 38:17akivua samakiuka
- 38:19>> ili apate nini? Apate hela yake kila
- 38:21siku.
- 38:22apate hela yake ya kila siku. Alafu wewe
- 38:24umeenda tu mlimani eti unaenda na
- 38:27unapata hela. Si watu wote tungeenda
- 38:28tungekutananga mlimani tukitafuta hela
- 38:30kwa sababu kila mtu anaamka asubuhi
- 38:31kutafuta pesa.
- 38:33>> Kila mtu anaamka asubuhi kutafuta pesa.
- 38:34>> M
- 38:35>> sasa wewe niambie kama ingekuwa
- 38:36inapatikana mlimani wewe unafikiri
- 38:38kungekuwa na milima hapa nje? Milima
- 38:40yote ingekuwa iko taken?
- 38:42>> True.
- 38:42>> Mh.
- 38:43>> Kwa sababu huko ndio pesa inapatikana. M
- 38:45>> na Mungu hatakuwa fair ikiwa kuna mtu
- 38:46aliamka saa 11 kwenda kufanya kazi
- 38:48anang'atwa na mbu baharini akitafuta
- 38:50samaki ili aende auze alishe watoto wake
- 38:52na wewe umetoka eti umeenda umepiga pale
- 38:54magoti umepata pesa na yule amepata he
- 38:56will not be a fair god
- 38:58>> eh
- 38:59>> so tufungue akilifungue
- 39:02akili na tufungueni macho opportunities
- 39:04zikitokea
- 39:07good opportunitiesi opportunities ya
- 39:09wababa good opportun
- 39:11>> wachana na biashara ya biashara wachana
- 39:13nayo wachana nayo
- 39:15hiyo nayo tutaisema hata kama hata kama
- 39:17itawa wengine lakini tutasema tutasema
- 39:21tu kuna yule atayukua kuna yule
- 39:23atakayeacha it's okay it's not bad but
- 39:26the truth will be spoken
- 39:27>> truth will always be the truth to never
- 39:29chang the truth is the truth right m
- 39:33>> jifunze train yourself train yourself
- 39:36tengeneza pesa
- 39:37>> okay okay
- 39:39>> so um
- 39:42I have a question when comes to making
- 39:44money. Is it about working hard or
- 39:47working smart?
- 39:49>> Or is it both?
- 39:50>> Or is it both?
- 39:51>> It's both.
- 39:52>> Okay.
- 39:54Expound hebu ju expound.
- 39:57>> Unajua mara nyingi
- 40:00>> katika biashara siku zingine kuna zile
- 40:01siku ambazo hata hutaki kuamka.
- 40:04>> M
- 40:04>> ziko hizo siku. You don't feel like
- 40:05going anywhere.
- 40:06>> M
- 40:07>> unaona tu hii pesa ah
- 40:09>> natafuta my. Kuna ile kuna wakati pia
- 40:12kwenye biashara unakuta hakuna hakuna
- 40:15biashara
- 40:16>> m
- 40:17>> lazima ukuweko lazima ukuwe unakuta kuna
- 40:19season kuna biashara na kuna season
- 40:21hakuna biashara
- 40:22>> mh
- 40:23>> you have to keep going
- 40:25>> you don't stop you keep pushing
- 40:29>> mh
- 40:29>> na ndio unaweza nani kuna work smart in
- 40:33this sense wakati kuna biashara
- 40:35>> mh
- 40:36>> pangilia mipango yako kwa wakati ambao
- 40:39hauna biashara
- 40:41Ah so you just don't plan like in your
- 40:45life. You also plan in your
- 40:47>> smartness is planning planning. It's
- 40:49>> planning that is being smart.
- 40:51>> A good example is I'd love to cite a
- 40:53story from the Bible when Joseph was the
- 40:56king. Was it king? Remember there was a
- 40:59time drought ilikuwa inakuja but
- 41:00walikuwa wameanza kuweka preparing for
- 41:04years ago. Exactly. Exactly.
- 41:07Mani
- 41:09wakati ule ambao kuna biashara m
- 41:12>> lipa lipa kodi yako ya nyumba mbele.
- 41:16Unaona lipa kodi yako ya nyumba kwa
- 41:18sababu si umekodisha nyumba labda
- 41:20unalipa 15,000 unalipa whatever amount
- 41:24>> yeah whatever amount
- 41:26>> wakati ule biashara iko nzuri kulipa
- 41:28kodi za mbele
- 41:30>> kipindi kile kwa sababu utajua kama wewe
- 41:31ni mfany biashara utajua kipindi wakati
- 41:33fulani kuna biashara wakati fulani
- 41:35hakuna hata biashara ya hoteli
- 41:37>> imagine watu wanakula everyday lakini
- 41:39kuna wakati kuna biashara na kuna wakati
- 41:41hakuna biashara
- 41:42>> unaelewa so saa ile wakati wa biashara
- 41:45unak
- 41:46kujisaidia wakati ule hakuna biashara
- 41:49pia. Kwa hiyo biashara yako inakuwa iko
- 41:52constant
- 41:53>> m
- 41:54>> na watu wanashindwa huyu hakuna hakuna
- 41:55biashara hata na analipaje rent
- 41:58>> m
- 41:59>> ni kwa sababu amejipanga mbele. That is
- 42:01the smartness. W
- 42:04>> you work smart have to work hard.
- 42:06>> Unaw hard na unajua wakati ule wa
- 42:09biashara you work so hard.
- 42:11>> M ni kama wakati wa kupanda.
- 42:15Wakati wa kuvuna bwana mahindi
- 42:16yameshakuwa yaani unataka unajua ya ni
- 42:18yangu yote heka tano
- 42:21>> hautaku utakuwa unalegea tu unalegea
- 42:23legea kwenda kuvuna unajua yapo unaelewa
- 42:25kweli
- 42:27>> na sharp boys unajua tuko na
- 42:31[kicheko]
- 42:32>> tuna shar boys unajua it is very
- 42:36discouraging sometimes wewe
- 42:37umeng'ang'ana uko na biashara alfu ehe
- 42:39unang'ang'ana na makare unang'ang'ana
- 42:41and then kuna sharp boy tu hapa
- 42:44Eh amefungua tu
- 42:46[kicheko]
- 42:47>> amefungua nini
- 42:50kushikanisha hiyo sh kwa sisi wakati
- 42:55na sh
- 42:57>> wacha nikuambie sha boy ni mwenye sasa
- 42:58wewe umeng'angana na butik yako let's
- 43:00say for example we are we we are ladies
- 43:02we have you have your buti umengang'ana
- 43:04umestock umeng'ang'ana
- 43:05>> then sharp boy anakuja ama sharp girl
- 43:08>> anakuja anafungua boutique anastok in
- 43:11one setting And then and then and then
- 43:14all of a sudden like wakati sasa wewe
- 43:16yako iko chini yeye ndio sasa anaboom.
- 43:18>> Mhm.
- 43:19>> Because anashinda tu akileta
- 43:22anashinda tu akileta. So you get
- 43:24intimidated unasema eh mimi mbona
- 43:26ning'ang'ane
- 43:27na kuna malsals. Eh kuna deals mbona
- 43:29nisipige deals? Mbona nisicha deals na
- 43:32>> nisicha deals kama my fellow sharp girls
- 43:34and sharp boys. Mimi nimeshinda tu hapa
- 43:36mimi ndio danda nimekaa tu hapa ni kama
- 43:40working hard working hard. Deals kama
- 43:42gani?
- 43:43>> Deal kama gani? Ndio tujue hao mashap
- 43:44boy wanafanya
- 43:46>> na mashap girls. usiogope
- 43:48wewe si unajua
- 43:49>> ah mi sijui niambie
- 43:53[kicheko]
- 43:53sijui
- 43:54>> like just deals like utapata like most
- 43:57of them the ones at least like ziko kwa
- 43:59ziko internet utapata most of them let's
- 44:02say wamepata mzungu [kusafisha koo]
- 44:03fulani
- 44:05>> oh sharp girls
- 44:06>> sharp boys ama sharp boys yeah they've
- 44:09scammed somebody for 100 m they scamed
- 44:12somebody for 50 million right ama
- 44:15unapata unapata Ninio mtu tu ameweka
- 44:18buti just for the sake
- 44:21>> na chini ya maji anafanya biashara the
- 44:23illegal kind of eh ana nini anaekea watu
- 44:28anafichia watu mavitu vifaa fing smart
- 44:32>> eh ndio nasema yeah this like si mtu
- 44:34anasema si I'm working smart
- 44:36>> si ndio hii mungu amenipea shortcut
- 44:40>> mbona mimi nikuwe danda niwache hii
- 44:42shortcut no you are a thief [kicheko]
- 44:44you are a thief pleas Please please ndio
- 44:47wacheni kuinani sugar
- 44:50>> mnaia jina tam
- 44:53sh [kicheko]
- 44:55>> wewe ni muiz
- 44:56>> wewe ni mwizi tu tofauti yako hauna
- 44:59bunduki pekee yake m
- 45:02>> wewe ni mwizi
- 45:03>> m
- 45:03>> yeah wewe concentrate kwa kazi yako kwa
- 45:05nini uangalie mwenzako anafanya nini
- 45:07>> kama hiyo kazi yako inakupa kodi hiyo
- 45:09kazi yako inakulipia school fees hiyo
- 45:11kazi yako inakuvisha hiyo kazi yako
- 45:13inakufanyia nini wewe unahangaika nini
- 45:15na chenye yeye anafanya hata kama
- 45:16amesimamisha Mercedes Benz mwacha
- 45:19asimamishe na ushap boy wake
- 45:20>> m
- 45:21>> jiel
- 45:21>> wewe concentrate umeenda pale
- 45:24>> kufanya biashara
- 45:26>> kuna mahali unaenda
- 45:28>> okay focus on
- 45:29>> sharp boy atakufanya utoke katika goli
- 45:32yako
- 45:33>> kwa sababu utakuwa umetoa focus nao
- 45:35unaanza kufukuza sharp boy
- 45:37>> kwa nini huyu anauza huyu na anafanya
- 45:40nini oh ako online sana let me get let
- 45:43me get online M ana nani? Anaendanga
- 45:47wakati wa soko anaenda kuuza vitu vyake
- 45:49wakati wa Let me do that yeah but
- 45:52usiseme tunataka kuchukua shortcut. M
- 45:55>> so copy good strategy.
- 45:56>> Yeah copy good. Of course hata mimi
- 45:59kabla sijaanza biashara nilicopy. Kila
- 46:02mtu anacopy ama you can find what you
- 46:05love from someone else.
- 46:07>> It doesn't mean unamnyanganya biashara
- 46:09yake. Unaweza itoa hapa ukaenda
- 46:11ukaifungulia sijui Eldoret. Mhm.
- 46:13>> Eh.
- 46:14>> Lakini uliiona wapi? Uliiona labda
- 46:16Nairobi ama uliona Mombasa? Mh.
- 46:19>> So copy good strategy but us don't lose
- 46:21yourself.
- 46:23Usifuate shortcut. Usifuate shortcut
- 46:25because watu wanafanya wanafuata short.
- 46:26>> Hi umetoa focus yako sasa umeanza nataka
- 46:28gari kama lake nataka. Na wewe ulikuwa
- 46:30unasema unaenda pale
- 46:32>> unataka kununua kiwanja chako ujenge
- 46:33nyumba.
- 46:34>> M
- 46:34>> unaelewa? Ulikuwa unataka kununua
- 46:35kiwanja chako ujenge nyumba. Sasa shab
- 46:38amekukujia na amekukujia na jeep. Eh
- 46:42amekuja amepak jeep hapo
- 46:44>> kwa sasa hii ni GL masamuona
- 46:46hapo unamuona huyu tulianza na yeye tu
- 46:48hapa tukisota jasho hapa [kicheko] leo
- 46:51ako na nani eh ukienda anakuambia ah
- 46:54bwana ni hivi na hivi na hivi ni hivi na
- 46:56hivi na hivi sasa unaanza kutoka
- 46:58>> m kwa
- 46:59>> nilikuwa nataka plot sasa unaacha plot
- 47:01unaenda kununua
- 47:03>> mh
- 47:03>> jeep kamtumba kajip
- 47:05>> m kamtumba
- 47:06>> hiyo gari inataka maintenance inataka
- 47:09mafuta kwa hiyo ile hela yako ambayo
- 47:11ungekuwa unategemea kwenda pale
- 47:13umeshaidi sasa inaenda hapa ndio
- 47:16uonekane na wewe pia ni sharp girl
- 47:18[kicheko]
- 47:21>> we miaka itakuchosha
- 47:23>> utajikuta kesho kesho kuta uko na 50
- 47:26kama sisi tunataka kupanda fifth floor
- 47:29>> eh utajipata hapo unasema tu hey what
- 47:31happened
- 47:32>> where was i
- 47:33>> no
- 47:34>> wow so with time those things don't
- 47:36matter they don't matter
- 47:38>> they don't wacha nikuambie there is
- 47:39nothing beautiful like when you are in
- 47:41my age right now and you just want to
- 47:43take a flight and go anywhere and you
- 47:45don't budget you unasema okay I'll take
- 47:47it from that account it's okay
- 47:49>> that account take
- 47:51>> financial freedom that is what we call
- 47:53eh si we unasema sasa nataka kwenda
- 47:56sijui kununua nini wacha nitashika hawa
- 47:57ni wababa wangapi wababa watano by then
- 48:01somebody who was used to say that unafaa
- 48:03kuwa na baba wa rent wa wa nini wa m
- 48:09biashara
- 48:11that is a lot of work
- 48:13>> it's a lot of work so wewe unapiganga
- 48:16bajeti zako unapigia mifuko ya watu
- 48:18>> m na pia anaweza kataa
- 48:19>> na pia anaweza [kusafisha koo] kataa by
- 48:20the way ama anaweza kukuambia baadaye
- 48:24next week
- 48:25>> and you see that's that's the thing
- 48:27that's the thing about putting your your
- 48:29finances on somebody else's else's hands
- 48:32right it's literally like is it
- 48:34sabotaging your future like you're
- 48:36playing around with your future right ni
- 48:38kama umechukua maisha Maisha yako mzima
- 48:40umeiwekelea kwa mkono ya mtu and
- 48:42expecting itently beautifully.
- 48:46It can't
- 48:47>> it can't unakuwa na ile freedom yenye
- 48:49you want to do something you
- 48:50[kusafisha koo] don't have even to go to
- 48:51your husband.
- 48:53kesho let's go to Mombasa for two days
- 48:58>> anakambia eh babe
- 49:01no don't worry it's my ticket there's
- 49:04some in a woman who has you know your
- 49:09ticket is ready
- 49:11you feel good
- 49:12>> m
- 49:13>> si kila wakati nipee nipee nipee nipee
- 49:15nipee even your selfestem
- 49:17>> sukari nipee atakudharau
- 49:20>> even your selfestem as a woman imagine
- 49:25dongo nipe
- 49:28>> wanaj wanyenyekea buse hakuna hiyo
- 49:31selfem right
- 49:33>> i read a book and the book was saying a
- 49:36man
- 49:37>> pension um a family might be there for
- 49:41you in the future but I wouldn't just
- 49:43count on it
- 49:44>> right m we're not saying that Namini's
- 49:46husband does not have maybe Nam husband
- 49:49has money maybe my fisher husband has
- 49:52Maybe your husband has money is not
- 49:54about them not about you.
- 49:57>> Without anybody else are you financially
- 50:00free? Do you can you be independent?
- 50:03>> Yeah. And most women most women are most
- 50:06women are going under because they don't
- 50:09have that independence.
- 50:10>> Unaona
- 50:12tumemtegemea Bwana katika kila kitu.
- 50:14umemtegemea mume wako sijui afanye hivi
- 50:16afanye hivi afanye hivi kwa hiyo yule
- 50:17mume wako akiondoka tu kid ama akose
- 50:19kazi familia nzima imeangukaelewa
- 50:23>> so mwanamke unatakiwa uwe na kazi yako
- 50:25uwe na pesa zako ambazo uwe na pesa
- 50:28tuseme tuseme uwe na pesa tuseme usiwe
- 50:30na pesa zako kwa sababu ni kwa sababu ya
- 50:32familia yako. Unaelewa? Siku ile mume
- 50:34wako kesho kesho kutwa labda hana kazi
- 50:37>> wewe pale alipokuwa anakuinua na wewe
- 50:38unajaribu kumuinua ina maana watoto
- 50:41wanaendelea kwenda shule kama kawaida.
- 50:43Sio baba amekosa kazi mtoto sasa alikuwa
- 50:45anasoma international ama mtoto alikuwa
- 50:46anasoma tu a good school anaenda
- 50:49anapelekwa kwa shule ingine yenye hata
- 50:51hajielewi kwa hiyo kunakuwa na confusion
- 50:52in the whole family.
- 50:54>> And this has wanawake wengi wameingia
- 50:56into depression only because you find
- 50:58the husband now amekuacha. M
- 51:01>> ameenda
- 51:02>> unaskia
- 51:03>> amekuacha na ulikuwa unamtegemea kila
- 51:05kitu mh
- 51:06>> akatoka akaenda kwa hiyo unapata
- 51:09mwanamke ako na despression because now
- 51:10hajui afanye nini rent atalipaje watoto
- 51:13watakulaje na unajua mtu akiamwaga
- 51:15kwenda anaendanga kule ndio anapenda
- 51:17sasa
- 51:17>> kule ndio macho yake anaona
- 51:20>> yaani ya kusikia anaweza acha tu kwani
- 51:21hamjaskia wanaume wameacha watoto wao
- 51:23wengi wameacha watoto wao na unakuta
- 51:25wanawake wanafall into depression
- 51:26because they don't have ngoja nikuambie
- 51:29>> ah mwanamke mke ambaye ana hela na
- 51:31mwanamke ambaye hana pesa wakichapwa hao
- 51:33wanawake wawili wakichapwa character
- 51:35development atayeumia zaidi ni yule hana
- 51:37pesa
- 51:37>> kweli
- 51:38>> kweli
- 51:39>> huyo ndio ataumia zaidi
- 51:41>> kuna mwenye atalilia kwa choo na kuna
- 51:43mwenye ataenda kuthink
- 51:45>> ataenda tu akeshe analia akikunywa
- 51:48[kicheko] kasip kaglass of w
- 51:51>> eh unaona so
- 51:54ina slap differently
- 51:56>> ndio unapata wengine wanafall into
- 51:57depression because akiangalia mbele
- 51:59nyuma ni yeye na bwanake walikuwa m
- 52:02>> hana kitu chochote cha kumsaidia so the
- 52:04guy is not there anymore. What happens?
- 52:07>> Tuweke pause hapo tumefika tamati ya hii
- 52:11conversation but of course we relax
- 52:15relax relax
- 52:19>> what we are about to do right. Yeah. So
- 52:22the conversation bado inaendelea.
- 52:24Hatujamaliza. Hatujamaliza guys. Um that
- 52:28was it from me your host for today and
- 52:30always ke [kicheko]
- 52:34>> na kama kawa your host also
- 52:37>> Faith Baraka
- 52:39>> and our guest would you give us a
- 52:41parting shot even as you
- 52:44>> work smart have money
- 52:45>> have money
- 52:46>> have money
- 52:47>> m
- 52:48>> inafanya roho inatulia
- 52:50>> when you have money
- 52:51>> work smart have money ladies and
- 52:54gentlemen that was it for us see you
- 52:56next Bye in the next episode
- 52:59bye
- 53:01[muziki]
- 53:09[muziki]
- 53:17[muziki]
- 53:24Yeah.
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