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- 0:18All right, welcome to Ringer Wise Guys
- 0:20week 2 preview here on a Friday. A
- 0:24billion points, a billion and one ways
- 0:27to win on FanDuel last night with the
- 0:29Lions and Bills. Various player props
- 0:32going over. Keep those coming. I'm on
- 0:33RAW. Let's do it. And let's first say hi
- 0:35to the Ringer Wise guys. You know him
- 0:38from Fairway Rolling. And from last
- 0:40night with Bill Sibs, Joe House, how do
- 0:43you like those points? Cousin S. I I
- 0:46love the points, but the only person I
- 0:48care about winning is you, buddy. You're
- 0:50coming in here hurt. The people need to
- 0:52know that cousin S is fighting tooth and
- 0:55nail for his life against the kidney
- 0:58stone, but this man is is here to to
- 1:01power through and give everybody across
- 1:04America winners. Great job by you,
- 1:06Cousin S.
- 1:06>> Is that a hippo violation?
- 1:08>> Let's see. Yeah, it might be. It's a
- 1:10hippo violation, I think. Uh if it's if
- 1:13it's for me. Yeah, you might hear a
- 1:14scream in Beijing um somewhere through
- 1:16this podcast and it won't have anything
- 1:18to do with Cowboys and Commander House.
- 1:20You and I going headtohead. All right,
- 1:22Raheem Palmer's here. Yes, he hit his
- 1:24wise wager last week. He has a top the
- 1:26standings with the Bundo, ready to
- 1:28defend his title from last week. Raheem,
- 1:31welcome. Yeah, I'm trying to go back to
- 1:33back. I mean, it's about time. You know,
- 1:35we've been killing it on our best bets.
- 1:37We hit last night with the Buffalo Bills
- 1:40minus 4 and a half, five and a half.
- 1:42Team total over 30 and a half. So, we're
- 1:45trying to keep this momentum going and
- 1:47keep it moving. hopefully cash some
- 1:48tickets for you guys.
- 1:50>> All right, we also have our man's best
- 1:52bet category and that's whoever picks
- 1:54the best underdog each week and the
- 1:56Bundo Tony Tokens was the only one to
- 1:58pick an underdog correctly last week.
- 2:00Kind of I guess you know there were a
- 2:02million moving parts last week and I
- 2:04failed to notice guys that the Bundo
- 2:06took the Jets as his underdog at plus
- 2:08106. What a disgraceful way to start the
- 2:11Bundo and you're counting that as a win.
- 2:12It should be said there weren't a lot of
- 2:14underdog wins to be had at all. If you
- 2:16go look through the the list, it was
- 2:18just the Jets, the Cardinals, and the
- 2:20Giants that pulled off those big wins.
- 2:22Two of which we we did have as a
- 2:24podcast. But
- 2:25>> but
- 2:26>> I have a more juicy one this week. And
- 2:29it's our
- 2:31juicy plus 106.
- 2:33>> Brian, that's nonsense, man. We'll send
- 2:35it's actually plus ringer 107. I like
- 2:38when they they do the they do the
- 2:39underdog picks on like CBS and Fox and
- 2:41it's just like actual favorites that
- 2:43they're taking like is my upset special.
- 2:45It's like yeah Terry they're favored by
- 2:47three and a half. So all right we got
- 2:48all that. We have 15 games to hit. We're
- 2:51going to uh recap last night's I I think
- 2:53it's it's still going. What a what a a
- 2:56bombfest that was. 312 What was it?
- 2:593121. No, we're 35. What was the score?
- 3:02I don't know. 4131.
- 3:03>> 34 24. Yeah. A million points,
- 3:06>> right? 4131. We were tracking it. Uh
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- 3:45in Connecticut. All right, there you go.
- 3:484131. That was the final. I I guess cuz
- 3:52they're still scoring. I had to check
- 3:53in. I refresh refresh. Congrats to all
- 3:55the over players. No sweat. I was hoping
- 3:58for a cheap back door cover by Detroit.
- 4:00Did not happen. Super entertaining game
- 4:02if you like scoring house. And uh that's
- 4:05what it was.
- 4:06>> Well, and it just picks up the theme of
- 4:08the entire week. And there are some
- 4:10teams now that we can circle. Buffalo is
- 4:12one of them. The Lions is one of them.
- 4:14Chicago is another one where you're just
- 4:17looking at these teams getting out and
- 4:18and the advantage they have on offense.
- 4:21The Lions especially, uh, we were having
- 4:24in in one of our threads a wonderful
- 4:26time tracking the number of touchdown
- 4:29drives by their opponent over the last,
- 4:32you know, what is it, dozen drives or so
- 4:34that that they've been on defense. I
- 4:36think they gave up a touchdown on 10 of
- 4:38them. Just incredible job by the Lions
- 4:41defense.
- 4:42>> Yeah, it was something crazy like 12 out
- 4:44of 13 or something, but yeah, it had hit
- 4:4510 in a row. Um, you know what we what
- 4:48hit? Our same game parlay Raheem. We
- 4:50hit, we gave out on the show. Gibbs
- 4:52receptions over, Knox reception's over.
- 4:54Concaid reception's over. Paid almost
- 4:56six to one. That's a nice way to go.
- 4:58>> Yeah, that was the same game parlay game
- 5:01of the year. I mean, just one of those
- 5:03times to where everybody eats, everybody
- 5:06scored. So, that was the game to hit the
- 5:08same game parlay. But what I want to
- 5:09really talk about is if you look at Josh
- 5:12Allen, the way he's playing right now,
- 5:14he's been absolutely dominant. and
- 5:16looking at this Bill schedule, and I
- 5:17said this before on one of our shows,
- 5:20that based on the schedule and the
- 5:22gauntlet that the Buffalo Bills have, if
- 5:26the Bills can get off to a hot start, he
- 5:28might be the front runner for MVP. And
- 5:31right now they're two and a two and 0
- 5:33against Houston and Detroit, but then
- 5:35they take on the Chargers, then they
- 5:37take on New England, then they take on
- 5:38the Rams, that five game stretch, I
- 5:42mean, it's going to be very key for the
- 5:43MVP. So, look out for FanDuel. Look out
- 5:46for what Lamar Jackson does this
- 5:48weekend. But if he doesn't have a big
- 5:51game, it's pretty clear that Josh
- 5:53Allen's going to put a strangle hold on
- 5:54this thing very quickly.
- 5:56>> Yeah, I checked those odds early this
- 5:57morning. He's plus 260 already. We're
- 6:00not even two full weeks in. He's plus
- 6:02260. Raheem, you're right. It might be
- 6:05even odds if they go 5-0 after those
- 6:07five. Nine touchdowns in five days. The
- 6:11Bundo for Josh Allen.
- 6:14you know, he he's playing at a level
- 6:16that I'm not even sure he's previously
- 6:18played at. You know, there was one
- 6:19stretch in the season, the famous 13
- 6:22seconds game, but even the second half
- 6:23of that season where the Bills offense
- 6:25was just operating at a level that we
- 6:27haven't really seen. But I think it is
- 6:29worth noting that this was not the same
- 6:31offense last year, and we mentioned this
- 6:33last night on the show, but they're just
- 6:36unleashing him in ways they hadn't
- 6:38previously done. You know, when Joe
- 6:40Brady came in after they fired Dorsy, it
- 6:44was at a period when Allen was making a
- 6:45lot of mistakes and committing a lot of
- 6:46turnovers and Joe Brady fixed the
- 6:49offense by taking the reigns away from
- 6:52Josh out a little bit. They ran the ball
- 6:54more and that was really their identity
- 6:56under McDermott with Brady as the OC for
- 6:58two years. They ran the ball one of the
- 7:00highest rates in the league. It was a
- 7:01great O line and a great running game.
- 7:03this year. Yes, Cook had his moments
- 7:05last night, but this does feel like
- 7:07we're going back in time to the 2022
- 7:09Bills, uh, the Bills teams that relied
- 7:11so much on Josh Allen just making plays
- 7:13that almost nobody else can make.
- 7:17>> Yeah, I want to put him in a hyperbaric
- 7:19chamber cuz I mean, we we need to see
- 7:22him all season long. I don't love him
- 7:25running as much as he is. And especially
- 7:27once they get inside the 20, he's he's
- 7:29putting his head down and going to the
- 7:30to the goal line. And it's it's it's a
- 7:32little early, Josh. I I I I love it,
- 7:35man. He's he's he's top dog, but I want
- 7:38to see him all season long.
- 7:40>> Yeah. Yeah. Last night though,
- 7:42especially looked like if you didn't
- 7:43know the schedule, you would say, "Oh,
- 7:45only one of these teams is playing on
- 7:46three days rest, right?" Like that Lions
- 7:48defense looked It looked like Allen
- 7:51could take off for 20 yards of daylight
- 7:54on several plays, especially early on.
- 7:57>> Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. And you know,
- 7:58I I I said this last night, it almost
- 8:00felt like the Bills kind of left some
- 8:03meat on the bone because the moment that
- 8:05DJ Moore got hurt, you saw less
- 8:07explosives. And you know, instead of it
- 8:10taking them four or five plays to score,
- 8:11it took him 15. So, you got to give some
- 8:14credit to what DJ Moore has done for
- 8:16that offense. He's really stretched the
- 8:18field and opened things up for other
- 8:19people. And this is probably the most
- 8:21explosive Bills offense we've seen in
- 8:23quite some time. So, um, it's going to
- 8:25be interesting watching them going
- 8:26forward because I kind of think that
- 8:28they're like a wealthy man's version of
- 8:30like the Bengals, the Cowboys, the
- 8:33Bears. I don't really trust the defense
- 8:35that much, but obviously they probably
- 8:37have a top two quarterback in this
- 8:40league, whether you want to put him
- 8:41first or second or you um it's clear
- 8:44he's first or second, but um you know, I
- 8:46just think the Bills team is very
- 8:49similar to those teams where they can
- 8:51score at will, but I don't know if
- 8:53they're going to be able to get stops in
- 8:54key moments.
- 8:55>> Yeah. So, you brought up the DJ Moore
- 8:57injury. It's it's it's funny. Well, it's
- 8:59not funny, but it's interesting, Raheem.
- 9:00You and I specifically were going back
- 9:02and forth like, "Wow." So, the top two
- 9:04trades of the year, there's already an
- 9:06injury. Miles Garrett, AJ Brown, who's
- 9:09going to be the third. Remember, we were
- 9:11going back and forth.
- 9:11>> Oh, yeah.
- 9:13>> It's It looks like it's DJ Moore. Is
- 9:15that a broken collar bone or did I read
- 9:17that wrong? Is that I mean, he's out for
- 9:19>> No, I think I thought it was joint
- 9:21sprain.
- 9:22>> Oh, joint sprain. Okay, joint.
- 9:23>> I think he'll be back. I think I
- 9:25actually think his injury is probably a
- 9:27little better than you know what Nico
- 9:29Collins has going on right now with the
- 9:30hamstring or Z Flowers. So, um you know,
- 9:34maybe he'll be back in a week or so.
- 9:36>> Yeah.
- 9:36>> Yeah. I would bet he plays in week
- 9:38three. If not, he doesn't miss more than
- 9:40a week.
- 9:41>> Okay, that's better. See, my doctor
- 9:42information is just terrible and you'll
- 9:44learn when it landed. Like certainly the
- 9:47the Twitter doctors and the chat
- 9:50observers and the prognosticators of
- 9:53>> potential injury thought that it was a
- 9:55collar bone, but it appears he avoided
- 9:57that.
- 9:58>> Uh, one more thing on Josh Allen. I
- 10:01think I have to read this right. I think
- 10:02he's going to break Eric Dickerson's
- 10:05number for rushing touchdowns. I think
- 10:07next year he has a chance to break like
- 10:09Barry Sanders and Marshall Fox.
- 10:12Yes. Yes. You guys are all around 100.
- 10:15Yeah,
- 10:15>> Raheem 6's really nuts. It's really
- 10:17stupid. He hates Josh Allen. He can't
- 10:19wait to come on in January and say,
- 10:21>> "We got to make this clear. I like Josh
- 10:23Allen. I don't like how the media covers
- 10:26him."
- 10:26>> When the Bills 37 in January, they're
- 10:29going to say, "Well, you know, Josh
- 10:31Allen,
- 10:32>> but then also defense has problems. We
- 10:35could talk about that.
- 10:36>> They're not covering anybody. I look,
- 10:38he's a one of the best regular season
- 10:41quarterbacks we've ever seen. He's
- 10:42pretty good in the playoffs, too.
- 10:43>> Really deny it?" Yeah, exactly.
- 10:45>> I'm not going to lie, there is a little
- 10:47bird and magic type thing.
- 10:48>> It's Bird and Magic in 88. Lamar is my
- 10:51guy, so I ride with Lamar. But I just I
- 10:54I I just I generally just did not like
- 10:56how he was covered for much of the last
- 10:58couple of years. It's just like I don't
- 11:01know. If you see it, you see it. If you
- 11:02don't, you don't.
- 11:03>> Now, in the Raheem's right, though, in
- 11:05the past, there would rarely be a this
- 11:07is clearly the best QB in the NFL
- 11:10discussion around somebody who hadn't
- 11:11won in the playoffs. Now, personally,
- 11:13>> as a nerd, I don't mind too much when
- 11:16people don't overindex on singular close
- 11:19playoff games, but given the standard
- 11:21we've usually applied, Raheem is right
- 11:23in the sense that it is unusual that he
- 11:25gets a pass for playoff miscues.
- 11:28>> Well, I'll put it this way.
- 11:30>> Yeah,
- 11:31>> it's been three straight years where
- 11:33he's had the ball in his hands with a
- 11:35chance in a postseason game to take the
- 11:38lead and just walk it off. Yeah,
- 11:41>> I know when Mahomes got the ball in his
- 11:43hands and the game is tied or he's
- 11:46behind, he's winning that thing. I ain't
- 11:48see Josh Allen do that. Now, obviously
- 11:50the 13 seconds, the 13 seconds happened,
- 11:52but that was five years ago.
- 11:55>> That's the hierarchy though, right? Cuz
- 11:56Mahomes beats Allen, so that's why we
- 11:58always talk and Allen beats Lamar even
- 12:01though Lamar has like two MVPs. That's
- 12:03kind of how it's been in the last few.
- 12:05>> But I mean, you got people saying you
- 12:06got people saying Josh is over Mahomes
- 12:09now. Granted, statistically Josh has
- 12:12been better, you know, over the last
- 12:13couple of years, but it's like,
- 12:15>> right, that has been the case the last
- 12:16two years.
- 12:17>> Yeah, but it's like, yo, you got when it
- 12:19matters, like you've had two straight
- 12:21years against Kansas City. When it
- 12:23matter,
- 12:24>> you couldn't get it done.
- 12:27>> Surgeon versus the battering ram is how
- 12:29I describe Mahomes as an Allen. you
- 12:31know, Mahomes is still a surgeon and he
- 12:33doesn't always need to bring the uh the
- 12:35a game, but he can be surgical and he's
- 12:37much more precise and I think a better
- 12:39decision maker versus, you know, Josh
- 12:41Allen just runs people over and throws
- 12:43all and does things other quarterbacks
- 12:44can't do for 20 games a year.
- 12:46>> Surgeon and the what? What was it? It
- 12:48sounds like a battering. Yeah. Okay.
- 12:50Yeah. Get going.
- 12:53>> That's not how we're describing your
- 12:55kidney stone, right?
- 12:56>> Oh my god. No. Okay.
- 12:59God, I was worried. That was
- 13:01>> uh the Vikings.
- 13:02>> Y'all keep bringing it up and it's going
- 13:04to make it hurt worse for him.
- 13:05>> I know. Thank you, Raheem. Yes.
- 13:07>> Like he's lying over the matter right
- 13:09now completely ignoring it. Y'all keep
- 13:11bringing it up.
- 13:12>> I'm going to present it right here on
- 13:14screen and then we're going to lose all
- 13:15our Twitch followers. Uh everybody. Uh
- 13:17so, all right. So, let's hit at hit the
- 13:19game of the week. I think Vikings at
- 13:22Bears Chicago 4 and a half. The total is
- 13:2547 and a half. When Simmons and I did
- 13:27it, it was 5 and a half. So, this has
- 13:28gone down a point. Uh, Joe House, you
- 13:31have a nice looking SGP for this
- 13:33particular matchup.
- 13:38>> No.
- 13:39>> Did we lose House? What happened?
- 13:41Hilarious.
- 13:41>> Come on. Right here. What happened?
- 13:42>> Lost his kidney. Go ahead.
- 13:44>> Oh, I'm I feel like I'm here.
- 13:47>> Yeah. I I've seen a lot of folks weigh
- 13:48in on the side of of the Vikings. I just
- 13:51can't do Carson Wentz on the road. Um,
- 13:54the Bears and the Vikings play each
- 13:56other tough. Last year they split. Uh
- 13:58the the Vikings went into Soldier Field
- 14:00in week one and beat the Bears outright
- 14:02with JJ McCarthy at quarterback. That
- 14:04really happened. Uh I like this this uh
- 14:08commitment by the Bears. It's a great
- 14:10bit. We're going to try we're going to
- 14:11score the most points in the history of
- 14:13the NFL. What a bit. I love it. So I I
- 14:16like them to hold serve at home in their
- 14:19their uh home debut. Uh Bears on the
- 14:22money line. Bears team total over 26 and
- 14:24a half. I take Ben Johnson at his word.
- 14:26I've seen enough. Okay. Yes, they're
- 14:28going to go score. I know that um
- 14:30Minnesota and Flores have a a nice game
- 14:34plan, will have nice game plan, but
- 14:35Green Bay got a lot of explosives off
- 14:38against that defense last week. And this
- 14:40Bears offense is just as explosive as
- 14:43Green Bay. And then Justin Jefferson
- 14:45with Carson Wentz at quarterback. Look
- 14:47at the numbers. They're very good.
- 14:49There's five or six games. Uh so a
- 14:51decent enough sample size and all of the
- 14:53yardage. uh he averages nearly 95 yards
- 14:56a game and and and a touchdown a game.
- 14:59So this little SGP plus 251 a nice way
- 15:02to have a a little action on this game.
- 15:06>> All right, Raheem the bundle.
- 15:07>> I like it.
- 15:08>> You Well, you both have the over. Uh who
- 15:10the hell's going to get in your way? I
- 15:12mean, it's so funny. Some coaches we
- 15:13trust in Ben Johnson when he says he's
- 15:15going to break the record and then some
- 15:16like Lane Kein's like, "No, screw you.
- 15:18We don't believe any of your injury
- 15:19reports or anything you say." So, but
- 15:21Raheem, you trust in Ben Johnson. You
- 15:22trust in the over here?
- 15:23>> I I I trust in Ben Johnson, but I also
- 15:26trust in the Chicago Bears defense to be
- 15:28completely trash. Like, that's half the
- 15:32battle right here. I mean, you look at
- 15:33what the Panthers did last week. I don't
- 15:36think none of us have a ton of respect
- 15:38for Bryce Young and that Panthers
- 15:40offense, but they put up 37 points on a
- 15:4247% success rate. So I think I mean even
- 15:46if you know the the Vikings just don't
- 15:49if they just put up 25 I I think you're
- 15:52there at this point in time. So I think
- 15:54all Bears totals at this point should
- 15:57start with a five. Like how do we get to
- 15:5947 like 47 and a half? So like we
- 16:03believe Ben Johnson, we believe in this
- 16:05offense and we also believe in how trash
- 16:08that Chicago Bears defense is. So I'm
- 16:10going over 47 and a half. I think you're
- 16:12getting a complete bargain on this and a
- 16:15couple of weeks from now we might be
- 16:16start seeing 55s and 57s.
- 16:19>> Yeah, the bundle.
- 16:22>> Look, uh, we made this joke on last
- 16:24week's show when I said I should just
- 16:25blindly bet the Bears over every game
- 16:28like we did the Texans under last year
- 16:30and wait until the market catches up or
- 16:32there's some matchup reason that I think
- 16:35that this is going to change. And
- 16:36honestly, I don't see one. Green Bay
- 16:38last week, I think it got lost cuz the
- 16:40fourth quarter was so weird. Green Bay
- 16:42put up 250 yards plus of offense on over
- 16:45eight yards per play in the first half
- 16:47and a lot of it was Minnesota's corners
- 16:50getting cooked. I don't think it's a
- 16:52good secondary. I think Flores is going
- 16:53to try to scheme it up. I think we're
- 16:55going to give Flores a lot of credit for
- 16:57like a lot of the variance plays that go
- 16:58their way, but the way Minnesota is
- 17:00playing defense
- 17:02also helps the over because they might
- 17:04force a turnover or two. They might get
- 17:05a strip sack. They might do something
- 17:08crazy. They throw a look at at Caleb
- 17:10he's not used to where they get a pick.
- 17:12No matter what, you're getting so much
- 17:15seessaw, you know, rubber band action
- 17:17both ways. If we blindly bet overs in
- 17:20every NFC North game this year,
- 17:22>> I would be pretty confident you're
- 17:24coming out ahead. And and I think alto
- 17:25overs are worth a look, too,
- 17:27>> because I think this Minnesota defense
- 17:28wasn't actually good last week. I think
- 17:30they're I come away more concerned about
- 17:32their defense and maybe Flores kind of
- 17:34gives away the game with how much he's
- 17:35blitzing because he knows he has to
- 17:36gimmick up a defense to be successful
- 17:39and it's going to be harder to do
- 17:41especially because if they blitz
- 17:43Williams and Johnson 80% of the time I
- 17:46think they'll be ready for it because
- 17:48they just watched it on tape last week.
- 17:50So I'm going over here. Uh, and and I
- 17:52agree with House's point about Jefferson
- 17:55and the fact that Chicago's secondary
- 17:57has nobody that can match up with him
- 17:58and they don't get any pass rush. So, it
- 18:00should be a pretty good W game. Wentz,
- 18:01we know what we know what dooms went
- 18:04>> and it's not it's not this pass rush.
- 18:07Yeah, I was going to say you guys are
- 18:08putting a lot of pressure on Carson
- 18:09Wentz here, but
- 18:10>> one thing one thing I want to add is
- 18:12that Ben Johnson, we know he was
- 18:15offensive coordinator for the Lions
- 18:17before he got this Bears job. And he's
- 18:19always historically done well against
- 18:21Flores. Now, obviously last year wasn't
- 18:23the best, but I think these two know
- 18:26each other, so I expect Ben Johnson to
- 18:29cook something up, especially against a
- 18:30Minnesota Vikings defense, which is
- 18:32worse than what we've seen in previous
- 18:34years.
- 18:35Yeah, listen, I'm I'm taking the same
- 18:37thread here and I'm taking a player prop
- 18:39with Caleb Williams, 225 plus passing
- 18:42yards at minus 120. I think this is
- 18:44going to be a bet. You guys will bet the
- 18:45over every week. I think this is going
- 18:46to be a bet I'll make just about every
- 18:48week. Uh I'm even going to try to sneak
- 18:50it in during Chicago's bye-week, but and
- 18:52I get the Flores blitz package is scary,
- 18:54but Caleb actually seems to do okay
- 18:56against it. Actually, almost a 90 passer
- 18:58rating against this version of the
- 19:00Vikings defense. um 235 yards a game
- 19:03career against the Bears. He's averaged
- 19:05over 254 in his last seven home games.
- 19:09Several of us house have Caleb to toss
- 19:11for 4,000 yards to become the first Bear
- 19:13to ever do it. So that would be 235 a
- 19:16game. Just need 226 here. I feel good
- 19:18about the mission Ben Johnson is on
- 19:20eclipse the points record. That means a
- 19:22lot of passing early and often. And we
- 19:24didn't mention the two banged up running
- 19:25backs for Chicago helps the cause. Maybe
- 19:28not uh them to win the game, but
- 19:31certainly for a high-scoring game. Caleb
- 19:33Williams 225 plus about even odds. We're
- 19:36taking it minus 120. All right, we
- 19:38mentioned the Texans. They're home for
- 19:40the Cincinnati Bengals. 2 and a half
- 19:42point favorite 45 is the overunder.
- 19:47Must win here for the Texans house. You
- 19:51using as your wise wager? Yeah,
- 19:54>> they did start with three last year.
- 19:57>> Yep. and and and they're they're very
- 19:59good. I mean, this I'm just going back
- 20:00to to my priors with this Houston team.
- 20:03It might be as we see this play out. I
- 20:05bet them last week as my wise wager in
- 20:08one of my 107 plays. There's nothing
- 20:10that I saw from that game that dissuades
- 20:12me from um Houston as a team that is
- 20:16going to be formidable as the season
- 20:17develops. The defense didn't show up.
- 20:20That's fine. Uh I feel even better now
- 20:22having watched Josh Allen and the Bills
- 20:25decimate Detroit last night. That makes
- 20:27me feel better about Houston. Last week
- 20:29they had the ball on the nine yard line
- 20:31uh with with time left to win the
- 20:33football game and it was a strip sack on
- 20:36on CJ. But this Texans team at under a
- 20:39field goal at home against Cincinnati.
- 20:41Cincinnati had a luck box game. Good job
- 20:44by them. They won a football game the
- 20:46first game of the season. Great job by
- 20:48the Bengals. Uh
- 20:50>> and covered
- 20:51>> and and covered not not only the win but
- 20:54the cover as well. Well, now Baker
- 20:56Mayfield did fumble four times. Uh, and
- 20:59you know, Cincinnati did have the
- 21:01benefit of a defensive touchdown.
- 21:03Cincinnati's points last week were
- 21:05three. They had four field goals,
- 21:08including two 50 plus yarders and the
- 21:10defensive touchdown. So, that's 19 of
- 21:13their 33 did not come by way of what I
- 21:15would characterize as conventional
- 21:17offense because they were on the short
- 21:19side of the field with all the Tampa
- 21:20turnovers. Really, this is looking at
- 21:23this Texans defense, and I think they
- 21:26are ready. They're going to put this
- 21:28offensive line of the Bengals to a to a
- 21:31different kind of test. The Buccaneers
- 21:33could not really get pressure on Burrow.
- 21:35I c I I saw Will Anderson this week. It
- 21:37warmed my heart. Let me have the Texans
- 21:39minus 2 and a half to just go out and
- 21:41handle their business against this
- 21:42Bengals team.
- 21:44>> I'm right there with you, House. I'm not
- 21:45making it my wise wager. I didn't throw
- 21:47it in my 107, but um here's my analysis.
- 21:50Yesterday, Joe Burrow threw left-handed
- 21:52in practice. I'm taking the Texans minus
- 21:54two and a half. That's all
- 21:57>> actually.
- 21:57>> Yeah, he there there's footage of him
- 21:59like tossing it left-handed. I mean, I
- 22:01don't know if it's, you know, but if you
- 22:03want more, you got the Windless Texans
- 22:05whose top rated defense now is a chip on
- 22:07their collective shoulders, right?
- 22:09They're seven and two straight up in
- 22:10their last nine against the Bengals. The
- 22:12Bengals, obviously, we talked about how
- 22:14they beat Tampa Bay uh under four yards
- 22:16per carry. So, I think we see the
- 22:18bruising Texans defense again this week.
- 22:20And the last time these two met, Houston
- 22:22won and CJ Strad had 356 yards passing.
- 22:26I think Zack Taylor remembers he's not
- 22:28supposed to win two games this early in
- 22:31the season and the Texans take it 2416.
- 22:34You okay with that score, Raheem?
- 22:36Because I know you have the under.
- 22:38>> Yes, I am okay with that score. I think
- 22:40the biggest thing here is that House
- 22:43mentioned that the the Bengals had a
- 22:45luck box win last week. They scored 33
- 22:48points and 24 of those points came off
- 22:50of four fumbles from the Tampa Bay
- 22:52Buccaneers. And now you got to go up
- 22:54against a Houston Texans defense which
- 22:56is one of the best in the league. And I
- 22:59think they're taking a little bit of a
- 23:01step down in competition. And then you
- 23:03have to talk about the injuries.
- 23:04Obviously there's injuries on both
- 23:06sides. Joe Burrow's a little banged up
- 23:08coming into this matchup. But more
- 23:10importantly, if you look at the Houston
- 23:11Texans, all of their receivers are in
- 23:14the hospital. You got Nico Collins, he
- 23:17has a hamstring injury. They came into
- 23:19the season with Tank Dell, like he was
- 23:22on injured reserve from a knee injury.
- 23:24Jaden Higgins, he's out for the season
- 23:26with a torn ACL. So, you really don't
- 23:29have a lot of guys to pass the ball to.
- 23:31So, I think this is going to be a
- 23:32lowercing game.
- 23:35I kind of wanted to take the Texans, but
- 23:37I just I I can't do it with their
- 23:39receiving options all injured. So, I
- 23:41think the best way to play this is the
- 23:43under 45 and a half. It was 46 and a
- 23:46half. There's a reason why it came came
- 23:48down. And also, if you want to get a
- 23:50little frisky, I think you play that
- 23:52first half under as well. So, um you
- 23:54know, a lot of times you have these NFL
- 23:56games, they take on a life of their own
- 23:58in the second half. Um but in the first
- 24:00half, it kind of plays true to form. So,
- 24:02you can probably split your wager up. Go
- 24:04first half under, full game under.
- 24:06>> Should I be offended that Raheem didn't
- 24:08text me and say, "Hey, uh, I want to
- 24:10play the Texans under. What do you
- 24:11think?" You know,
- 24:12>> I did text it to the group chat. I said
- 24:14Texans unders are back.
- 24:16>> Oh, you know what? Well, I think when
- 24:18did you send Oh, that was when uh
- 24:20specialized text. He can't It can't be
- 24:22on the
- 24:23unless it's I know this is your
- 24:26trademark. I know it's your trademark,
- 24:27but
- 24:28>> and nothing just a pure copyright
- 24:30infringement on the podcast.
- 24:31>> It's actually how it got him that seat
- 24:33right there on this podcast. He got
- 24:36graduated from uh a day player to uh
- 24:38>> you come in every every week at the end
- 24:40of the show and say, "Hey guys, did you
- 24:41know the Texans defense is really good
- 24:44>> like kicked off 20 minutes ago." All
- 24:46right, but you have a player prop to
- 24:48Bundo for this one.
- 24:49>> Yeah, I'm actually I guess I'm
- 24:51technically fading the Texans defense at
- 24:52least over the middle. I like Mike
- 24:54Cassiki over 23 and a half receiving
- 24:56yards. Normally, this offense has been
- 24:59very, very, very Higgins and Chase
- 25:01dependent. We saw that be a little bit
- 25:03less the case last week. And in fact,
- 25:05that was probably my biggest takeaway
- 25:07from the opening week. You know, all
- 25:09this talk about Joe Burrow and how he's
- 25:10going to be under center and they're
- 25:11going to do all this play action.
- 25:12They're going to run the ball more.
- 25:14There was some of that, but not a lot.
- 25:15But it was definitely like, hey, we got
- 25:17these tight ends. We kind of like them.
- 25:20We think they might be able to exploit
- 25:22uh a defense over the middle, Tampa Bay
- 25:24defense, and I don't really think you
- 25:26can go after Lacer and Stingley, but I
- 25:28know you can go after these linebackers.
- 25:30The Houston, if there's a weakness in
- 25:31the Houston defense that persists, it's
- 25:33going to be their linebackers in
- 25:34coverage and over the middle. And I
- 25:36think that's where Castiki eats. So,
- 25:38he'll be uh grittying for at least 24
- 25:40yards or ski daddling for 24 yards
- 25:42>> on Sunday over 23 and a half. My
- 25:44favorite prop of the week. FanDal has
- 25:46scadaddling 13 and a half yards and uh
- 25:49what did you say? What was the other one
- 25:51for 12 and a half? I don't know for 12
- 25:53and a half. Yeah, they had it broken up
- 25:55there. Okay. All right. Steelers at
- 25:57Patriots. New England needs a win here.
- 26:000 and one. They blew it last week
- 26:02against Seattle. The Steelers held on
- 26:04against Atlanta. Uh FanDuel puts us
- 26:06right in the Vegas zone at 4 and a half.
- 26:08The total is 41 a half. We like overs
- 26:11almost everywhere else house, but for
- 26:14this game, I think the crew is leaning
- 26:16under. What's your pick?
- 26:17>> Yeah, I like what you're going to hear
- 26:19from my colleagues in terms of the game
- 26:22under, but I am honing in on the
- 26:25Steelers specifically, and this is an
- 26:28until further notice bet. I am going to
- 26:30be betting the Steelers team total under
- 26:34uh until further notice because there is
- 26:37no proof whatsoever that this Steelers
- 26:40offense, even with the great Mike
- 26:42McCarthy, he was supposed to unleash the
- 26:45AARP quarterback that they have, uh they
- 26:48can't run the ball. Um DK Metaf is uh
- 26:53agnostic about catching the ball. Uh
- 26:55maybe he needs a trip to Antarctica. Uh
- 26:58there was some pass interferences, but
- 26:59it looks like the Steelers offense in
- 27:01terms of trying to get down the field is
- 27:03to try and generate pass interference
- 27:05calls. So live by the PI, die by the PI.
- 27:08They was nothing in terms of their
- 27:10efficiency or success numbers that
- 27:12suggest that this is a functional
- 27:14offense. and they had one touchdown last
- 27:17week against an Atlanta Falcons defense
- 27:19that coming into this game was regarded
- 27:22as one of the league's bottom 10 because
- 27:25of the personnel losses that it
- 27:27experienced. Well, they were in the back
- 27:29field. They were harassing Aaron Rodgers
- 27:32and one offensive touchdown from the
- 27:34Steelers last week at home against the
- 27:36Falcons on the Falcons side of the field
- 27:39because it came off of an interception.
- 27:41So, Steelers under team total 17 a half
- 27:45until further notice.
- 27:46>> All right. Now, Raheem and Deb Bundo,
- 27:49you know, you might disagree on picks
- 27:50from time to time. I think it's rare
- 27:52where you disagree on a total. And we
- 27:54don't have that in this instance here.
- 27:55I'm just u this is two in a row that
- 27:57you're not only agreeing on, you're
- 27:59making that your featured bet of the uh
- 28:01game. Raheem, hit us with your under
- 28:03pick and your reasoning.
- 28:05>> Yeah, I mean, we gave this out the other
- 28:07day at 42 and a half. I think this was
- 28:09the Tuesday show or early week plays and
- 28:12I still think there's value on this. I'm
- 28:14like sitting at about 38 for this game.
- 28:16So I I think there's like I mean like
- 28:18you you look at these two teams and
- 28:22house already broke down the case for
- 28:23the Steelers under but if you look at
- 28:26the New England Patriots without AJ
- 28:28Brown, what is this passcatching group?
- 28:31Like so it's just like I just don't see
- 28:33a lot of offense here. I know that the
- 28:36Patriots, their defense, I actually do
- 28:37think it's it's pretty sustainable at
- 28:39this point in time, especially when you
- 28:40consider that this is an upgraded unit
- 28:43versus what Aaron Rogers saw last week.
- 28:45So, I don't see I don't see a lot of
- 28:47points in this game at all. I think it's
- 28:49a it's a slow paced game. You go back to
- 28:51last year, these two teams played 214.
- 28:54Patriots had four fumbles in that game.
- 28:56So, I think the Patriots might find
- 28:58themselves in in a situation to where
- 29:01they're just they're trying to run the
- 29:02ball and they're just getting nowhere
- 29:04with it. So, I'm going to go under
- 29:07>> tokens.
- 29:07>> The two most underrated defensive
- 29:09coordinators in the NFL.
- 29:11>> Oh.
- 29:12>> Relative to the to the juice and the PR
- 29:14and all the, you know, all the talk of
- 29:16who the best DCs are. And I'm not saying
- 29:18that Pat Graham and Zack Cerr are on the
- 29:20level of Mike McDonald or Vic Fangio or
- 29:23Brian Flores, but they are underrated.
- 29:25And you know, when when I I think about
- 29:27this matchup, I actually think about
- 29:28Patriots Raiders, not not Patriots
- 29:31Steelers last year because we know the
- 29:33Pittsburgh defense on the back end last
- 29:36season gave up a ton of big plays. It
- 29:37was the antiquated system. Terrell
- 29:39Austin and they were very predictable
- 29:41back there and it was kind of just like
- 29:43can the pass rush get home? If they
- 29:45can't, we're cooked. That was not the
- 29:46case in week one and that was not the
- 29:48case for Pat Graham's Raiders last year.
- 29:50The Raiders with a very limited
- 29:52personnel were top five in the league in
- 29:54explosive play rate allowed. They do not
- 29:56allow big plays. That is where May eats.
- 29:59May will be forced to go underneath and
- 30:00I think he'll be a little bit more
- 30:02willing to do that after the disaster of
- 30:04week one's fourth quarter. So you have a
- 30:07lot of Randre Stevenson. Tvon Henderson
- 30:09is playing. Don't love that for the
- 30:11under, but you're going to you see this
- 30:13team be super methodical. Pittsburgh's
- 30:14not going to blitz. New England doesn't
- 30:16like to blitz that much either. Uh, and
- 30:18I don't think that's necessarily even
- 30:19the best strategy against Rogers because
- 30:21he's not going to force the ball down
- 30:23the field either way. So, all of this to
- 30:25me points to a lowercing game. And sure,
- 30:28maybe DK Metaf catches a big player,
- 30:29too, and now I'm in trouble, but I don't
- 30:32really see a ton of points here. So,
- 30:34yeah, my favorite and first bet uh that
- 30:36I placed early in the week, not my wise
- 30:38wager, but close to it. Probably my
- 30:40second choice under 41 and a half.
- 30:42>> Okay, now let's rank the most underrated
- 30:451 through 32 defensive coordinators in
- 30:47the league. House, you go first. We'll
- 30:48we'll
- 30:49>> Dante Jones.
- 30:50>> Dante Jones.
- 30:52>> We all have the same pick. All right.
- 30:54>> We'll see. Personnel sucks, though. So,
- 30:56>> I think I'm the only idiot taking an
- 30:57overplay here. And it's only one play,
- 31:00but it's M. Holland to have a 20 plus
- 31:02yard reception at plus 110. I like this
- 31:04guy a lot. I I picked him up in like
- 31:07three out of my 64 fantasy leagues this
- 31:10this week. Uh, I think possession for
- 31:12possession, Raheem, now that AJ Brown is
- 31:14out, I think he might be the best the
- 31:16Pats have right now. He comes up with
- 31:17some big grabs, especially on third
- 31:19down, and he goes for distance. Over the
- 31:20last five games, he's caught long balls,
- 31:23averaging 24 yards. So, Steelers have
- 31:27two safeties on IR. Joey Porter Jr.
- 31:29working through a injury. Even last week
- 31:32against Cooper Rush, the Steelers
- 31:33allowed three passes of 19 plus yards.
- 31:35So, I like this one a lot. M. Collins to
- 31:38have a 20 plus yard reception at plus
- 31:41money. All right, let's move on. Jaguars
- 31:44at the Broncos. Denver on a short week.
- 31:46They are home again though, laying 2 and
- 31:49a half only and the total is 45 a half.
- 31:54This is an interesting one. Joe House,
- 31:57it happens to be your 107 pick.
- 31:59>> Yeah, it's one of my 107 picks this
- 32:02week. And again, I'm going into my prior
- 32:04bag. I had this um Denver team in the
- 32:07neighborhood of 10 to 11 wins. I was
- 32:11enormously disappointed with the way
- 32:13that the defense especially played
- 32:15against the Chiefs. Um the the Action
- 32:18Network guys pointed out, I think it was
- 32:21248
- 32:22missed tackle yards. Yeah, that's a
- 32:25stat. The number of of missed tackles
- 32:27they had and the yardage gained off of
- 32:29those missed tackles. That's the most
- 32:32missed tackle yards in the history of
- 32:34the National Football League. Uh Shawn
- 32:37Payeyton Shawn Payeyton and this Denver
- 32:40team for whatever reason had a certain
- 32:42approach to the preseason. I was
- 32:44reminded of this from uh one of our
- 32:47friends that that's a Bron they the
- 32:48Broncos come out slow. Well, this this
- 32:51one better be them showing up in week
- 32:55two. The Jaguars came into Denver last
- 32:57year and beat their ass. gave them a
- 32:59firm beating right there at a mile high.
- 33:03And I think that that Denver remembers
- 33:06that. I like Shawn Payeyton in this
- 33:08situation coming off of a loss. His uh
- 33:11ATS and straightup record both very good
- 33:14coming off of a loss. And I think it's
- 33:16the wakeup call to the Broncos that they
- 33:18needed. Um I I the Jaguars are on a
- 33:21heater right now, a regular season
- 33:23heater. nine and0 both straight up and
- 33:25against the spread over their last nine
- 33:27games. I think it comes to an end here.
- 33:30Broncos winning. I I I could see a nice
- 33:32tight one. Um but the Jaguars didn't
- 33:35have anything in the way of a sweat. It
- 33:37was another preseason game by them
- 33:39playing against the Browns and Deshawn
- 33:40Watson last week. This will be
- 33:42different. Playing at altitude early in
- 33:44the season. Uh I have the Broncos just
- 33:46pulling it out um by a field goal is
- 33:49fine. Broncos minus 2 and a half.
- 33:51>> I hear an island. I see an island in the
- 33:53distance.
- 33:54>> Yeah, we need an island in the distance.
- 33:56>> We'll get the island update second. The
- 33:59lone uh lone wolf as we call it. All
- 34:01right, Raheem and I disagree. Raheem, in
- 34:03fact, willing to stake his uh man's best
- 34:05bet pick of the week on it. Okay, so I
- 34:08got two picks for this. It is my man's
- 34:10best bet. I'm taking the Jags on the
- 34:12money line plus 126. I'm also taking the
- 34:15Jags plus 2 and a half. That's going to
- 34:18be in my ringer 107.
- 34:21Let me remind everybody
- 34:23something happened during those last
- 34:25nine games. And what happened was they
- 34:28traded for Jacobe Meyers. So if you look
- 34:30at the last nine games,
- 34:33the Jaguars are 9 and0. Trevor Lawrence,
- 34:36he's fourth in yards, almost 2500 yards.
- 34:40He's first in touchdown passes, 28
- 34:43touchdowns, and he's first in passer
- 34:45rating, 111.5.
- 34:49and they went into Denver last year and
- 34:52they stopped on this Denver team 34 to
- 34:5520. And you look at the quarterbacks in
- 34:58which the Denver Broncos played last
- 35:01year,
- 35:03they really left a lot to be desired. I
- 35:04mean, you you you struggle against
- 35:06Justin Fields and the Jets. Like
- 35:10to me, this Broncos team isn't good. And
- 35:12I'm going to say it here first. This
- 35:14Broncos team is missing the postseason.
- 35:16>> Oh. So he's out.
- 35:17>> If if you want to go ahead and you want
- 35:19to make a bet, you want to go on FanDuel
- 35:21Sportsbook right now,
- 35:23>> they are minus 108 to miss the
- 35:24postseason.
- 35:25>> And they find themselves in this spot
- 35:29where are you put in Davis Web and have
- 35:33him calling plays. I don't know if he's
- 35:35going to be calling plays too much
- 35:36longer because what we saw on Monday
- 35:38night, they look confused.
- 35:40>> And you look at the fact that the
- 35:42Jacksonville Jaguars, they got so many
- 35:44different weapons. So Patrick Sertain,
- 35:47he can only cover one guy. He can't
- 35:50cover everybody. You got Parker
- 35:51Washington, you got Jacobe Meyers, you
- 35:54got Brian Thomas. Trevor Lawrence is
- 35:57spreading the ball around the field. I
- 36:00actually think if it wasn't for Denver's
- 36:03home field advantage,
- 36:05>> this would probably be a pick them
- 36:07>> or maybe even Jacksonville being
- 36:09favored. And I know it's a tough place
- 36:11to play earlier on in the year. Yeah.
- 36:13But I think the Broncos are absolutely
- 36:15cooked. They're gonna lose this game.
- 36:17Then you got to go play the Rams, the
- 36:1949ers, the Chargers, and Seattle. This
- 36:22team could be 0 and six.
- 36:25>> It's a lot.
- 36:26>> Uh if you're not tackling, it's a
- 36:28daunting schedule. If you are tackling,
- 36:30it's a daunting schedule. If you're not
- 36:32scoring, I mean, it's all of it. Um I'm
- 36:34with you, Raheem. I know the Broncos
- 36:35have to be favored in this spot at home
- 36:37coming off a loss, but I don't think
- 36:39they're better. Certainly not now. And
- 36:41you know, I don't want to read too much
- 36:42into that crushing of the Browns, but
- 36:45the regular season version of this team,
- 36:47as you mentioned, continues their run,
- 36:48ninegame win streak, right? 37 points a
- 36:51game over that stretch. And they allow
- 36:53just 14 over that span. That's the
- 36:55amazing thing. You might say, "Oh, it
- 36:57was turnover differential. It's
- 36:58different." And maybe it is, but Shawn
- 37:00Peyton, notoriously slow starting squad.
- 37:03They struggle to score 20. And I may
- 37:04have been wrong maybe at least right now
- 37:06about Vance Joseph's defense. It
- 37:08couldn't figure out how to tackle last
- 37:09week. And if you look back, not that
- 37:11great over the last half dozen games.
- 37:13Denver two and eight against the spread
- 37:15in games played in weeks one, two,
- 37:17three, and four the last uh four years.
- 37:20So, um I don't know. I'm not sure what
- 37:23we think about Shawn Peyton and this
- 37:24early start. I don't want to overreact,
- 37:25but the Jags are the play here, and I
- 37:27may have them in a foolproof teaser
- 37:29coming up. I may not. We'll see what
- 37:30kind of mood I'm in. The Bundle.
- 37:32>> You know what? I got to add one more
- 37:33thing. Go ahead. Cuz I know I've made
- 37:34this reference before, but I'm I'mma
- 37:36make it again.
- 37:38Shawn Payeyton and Liam Cohen, they like
- 37:41that State Farm commercial, the the
- 37:43Steph Curry and Chris Paul one where you
- 37:45had Chris Paul going down the escalator,
- 37:48you had Steph Curry going up the
- 37:50escalator. I see
- 37:52>> that seems harsh on Shawn Peyton. I'm
- 37:53not even a Shawn Peyton guy, but they
- 37:55were 14 games last year.
- 37:57>> Steph going up
- 37:58>> and most of them score games and most
- 38:01>> sure. I I don't think he has that much
- 38:03talent on this offense.
- 38:04>> That's fair. But
- 38:06>> I think I think his quarterback is ass.
- 38:09>> But I think the fact that the fact that
- 38:11he he decided to put Davis Web in charge
- 38:14of the offense, I think it shows that
- 38:17>> maybe maybe he's losing his fast. And
- 38:20then one thing I will add as well,
- 38:23>> the Jacksonville Jaguars, they closed as
- 38:25two and a half point favorites against
- 38:27the Buffalo Bills in the postseason. So
- 38:31what does that tell you about the
- 38:33relative strength about these two teams?
- 38:35So
- 38:36>> that's the other thing is Denver what
- 38:38they trailed in 15 games last year. So
- 38:40it's hard to get to pinpoint what kind
- 38:42of team this really is. But the bundo
- 38:44you think there's going to be points in
- 38:45this one.
- 38:46>> Yeah. I'm not a Denver guy and I would
- 38:48be on Jacksonville as well. I was mostly
- 38:50playing devil's advocate. I think we
- 38:51will look back and say that there was a
- 38:53lot of weird [ __ ] that happened in that
- 38:54Monday night game and that the mistackle
- 38:57thing ended up being quite a fluke.
- 38:59However, I do not think we will look
- 39:01back at what Liam Cohen has done over
- 39:03the last 3 years and see that as any
- 39:05kind of fluke. And I think he's Ben
- 39:06Johnson in a smaller market with worse
- 39:08PR because what he's done with Tampa
- 39:11Bay's offense in 2024, what he did last
- 39:14year in the second half of the season,
- 39:15they were top five success rate. The
- 39:17Tampa Bay Bucks were top five in success
- 39:19rate, which they have not been the last
- 39:20two years since he departed. And you're
- 39:23looking at this Jags offense now and
- 39:24you're seeing even with a pretty meh
- 39:26running back room, an elite pass offense
- 39:28that schemes guys open, that takes
- 39:30advantage of mismatches, that gets guys
- 39:32over the middle of the field. This
- 39:33Denver defense still has PS2 Moss is
- 39:35pretty good. They are vulnerable over
- 39:37the middle.
- 39:39And I think that's where Jacksonville
- 39:40can pick on them and score. And I do
- 39:41think the Jags defense is overrated. If
- 39:43you look at who Jacksonville's defense
- 39:45has played in the recent wins that that
- 39:48the winning streak that you just
- 39:50mentioned, it's a lot of bad teams and
- 39:52bad quarterbacks. And the one team they
- 39:54played that was pretty good offensively
- 39:56was the Bills. The Bills put up what 30
- 39:5930 points in that play 27 points in that
- 40:01playoff game.
- 40:02>> Otherwise, they played Tennessee Indie
- 40:05uh in with Riley Leonard. They played uh
- 40:09and Phil Rivers. They played the Jets.
- 40:12They played the Colts when Riley
- 40:13Leonard. They played Tennessee and they
- 40:14played the Cardinals and gave up 24 to
- 40:16them and it should have been more. So, I
- 40:18think this Jack's defense is overrated.
- 40:19I think their offense is probably still
- 40:21under uh underrated. So, I'm going over
- 40:2445 and a half in this game. I think
- 40:27it'll be like a three-point game either
- 40:29way, but the ball last 24 type game.
- 40:32>> All right. The bundle rooting for more
- 40:34missed tackles. Okay. Yeah. Some uh
- 40:37somebody in the chat says, "I guess S
- 40:39needs some hot water and lemon." I'll
- 40:41try anything right now just to not get
- 40:43this stone popping all over.
- 40:45>> Pour that down your pants. That's the
- 40:46drink.
- 40:46>> Yeah, no kidding. That's where it goes.
- 40:48All right. Hey, we have our uh first
- 40:51guest pick on tape here. One of the
- 40:53leading ladies over at the Ringer
- 40:54Fantasy Gals. We stuck him with no
- 40:56quarterback in our fantasy draft house,
- 40:59but he did manage to come up with a pick
- 41:01for week two. Oh, I don't like this.
- 41:02It's our Cowboys Commanders game house.
- 41:05What Danny Hitz?
- 41:08Ringer wise guys got an offering for the
- 41:11family. S I'm um honestly surprised you
- 41:13wanted to have me on this week after the
- 41:15Giants um destroyed the Cowboys
- 41:17publicly. So I obviously the Cowboys
- 41:19defense can't stop anything. So I wanted
- 41:21to get you guys a little rich. The
- 41:24Giants proved how bad Dallas is. So I'm
- 41:27thinking Dallas plays Washington this
- 41:29week and if you do an anytime touchdown
- 41:31score if Jaka Crosky Merritt scores and
- 41:34Rashad White scores and Terry McLuren
- 41:36scores and Jaden Daniels scores and
- 41:37Stfan Diggs also scores because Dallas
- 41:40can't stop anyone that is plus485.
- 41:46So if I put $1 on that I would win $48.
- 41:49And kind of feels like a lock, don't you
- 41:51think, S?
- 41:54>> What a creep. What a creepy he is. The
- 41:56Bundes put this
- 41:58>> I know. I I don't even want to dignify
- 42:00that with a with a re reaction here. So
- 42:03terrible. I know he's right though. He's
- 42:06not right in saying that I wanted him on
- 42:08this week. I don't even know why he's on
- 42:09this week. That that was that's a
- 42:12supposition that I don't know where he
- 42:13came up with though. But he's right. Our
- 42:15defense stinks. House. I never wanted
- 42:18less to make a side bet with a friend
- 42:20than this game. I'm sure you feel the
- 42:22same way. Um, the wise guys got me
- 42:24nauseous. Raheem and Dundo with their
- 42:27pro Cowboys talk on I think it was
- 42:28Tuesday. I had the bruises and abrasions
- 42:31where it was still noticeable. I
- 42:33couldn't get there and they're going to
- 42:34have more. They're going to load up on
- 42:35that in a minute. Uh, I can sign off on
- 42:38a lot of points because we have a lot of
- 42:40young players playing a lot of bad
- 42:42defense and a couple of them seem to
- 42:43hate the new DC Christian Parker. Dallas
- 42:46allowed over 400 yards of offense to the
- 42:48Giants and had zero sacks. This might be
- 42:51worse. Washington allowed three
- 42:52touchdown passes to Jay and Herd's house
- 42:55uh last week. Commies were the worst in
- 42:57the NFL last year in total defense.
- 42:59Dallas was third. Look, I'm going over
- 43:00here. Dak versus the Commanders produces
- 43:03overs only 80% of the time. That's a
- 43:06good sample size.
- 43:07>> 50 15 games. That's a nice sample size.
- 43:10So over 50 and a half is my pick. Alice,
- 43:14go ahead. Which way you taking this?
- 43:15Yeah, I'm sad that this game is
- 43:17occurring so early in the season cuz the
- 43:19Washington defense really could um turn
- 43:22into something. Um but they're they're
- 43:25they're going to be nothing until uh
- 43:27Trey Ames comes off of uh injured
- 43:29reserve cuz Mikey Sandra still got put
- 43:32into the blender and spun up. It was a
- 43:34salad blender and he came out as a
- 43:36Julian carrot. Uh
- 43:39>> they're calling him now, House.
- 43:40>> I I'll call him What are they calling
- 43:42him?
- 43:42>> Mikey Stand Real Still.
- 43:44>> Yeah, I saw it.
- 43:47He was looking over here. He was looking
- 43:49over there. He was looking everywhere
- 43:50except for where the ball was coming
- 43:51from. It was bad.
- 43:53>> And Dallas at home especially
- 43:56uh uh just gets into that stadium and
- 43:59it's like a track meet. Their offense
- 44:02was not the problem last week other than
- 44:04George Pickkins, you know, choosing
- 44:06which balls he would dain to catch. Uh
- 44:08they were very efficient um for the
- 44:11week. They just never had the ball
- 44:12because the defense wouldn't permit it.
- 44:15Um, I'm playing Jaden Daniels over one
- 44:18and a half passing touchdowns. I do
- 44:20think with the the Washington offense
- 44:23with David Blau, especially in the
- 44:24fourth quarter against the Eagles
- 44:26defense showed a version of what they
- 44:30imagine themselves to be. And it is um
- 44:34it's it's getting rid of the ball
- 44:35quickly. It's Jane Daniels being really
- 44:38selective about when he runs. Um he
- 44:40finally got uh a little bit vertical
- 44:43with the receiver Antonio Williams who
- 44:45is really the only receiver for
- 44:46Washington who could get any separation.
- 44:48Um but I they do have a nice mix uh and
- 44:51a nice balance and and we saw him um get
- 44:55those touchdowns last week against the
- 44:56Eagles. I think Washington's going to
- 44:59have the ball a whole bunch because
- 45:00Dallas is going to score and score
- 45:02quickly. So over one and a half passing
- 45:04touchdowns at plus money plus 140 for
- 45:06Jaden Daniels.
- 45:07>> All right, you got the JD prop. I four
- 45:10and a half is the spread. 50 and a half.
- 45:11I'm taking the over the bundo and Raheem
- 45:14on the same page here. Look. Oh, they
- 45:16the kids. They have to get hurt. They
- 45:18have to learn. You know, you want to put
- 45:19your hand over the stove, Raheem. Go
- 45:21ahead. Go ahead. You're making this your
- 45:22107 pick. One of your 107 picks.
- 45:24>> This is one of my 107 picks. We were
- 45:26high on the Dallas Cowboys coming into
- 45:28the year. I'm not going to overreact by
- 45:30saying that they aren't going to
- 45:33continue to be a team who can challenge
- 45:35for the division. I mean, you look at
- 45:37last week, the Giants were 9 for11 on
- 45:40third down. That's due for regression.
- 45:42>> But more importantly, House said it
- 45:44best. The Cowboys offense wasn't the
- 45:46problem at all. They are going to score
- 45:48at will. You look at what the Eagles did
- 45:50last week and their offensive line is
- 45:52trash. They they put up 24 points and
- 45:55has six six yards per play. So, I expect
- 45:57the Cowboys offense, especially at home
- 46:00where they've been absolutely dominant
- 46:02and scoring about 31 points a game, to
- 46:04continue rolling. So Dak is 13-2 against
- 46:08Washington throughout his career. I
- 46:10think the Cowboys are going to go out
- 46:12there and put the stop on the Washington
- 46:15Commanders. I'mma lay the four and a
- 46:17half. So um this is I'm I'm taking a
- 46:19stand here. It doesn't look pretty. It
- 46:22doesn't look good. Nobody wants to do
- 46:23it, but I'm doing it.
- 46:25>> All right.
- 46:25>> I have injury report.
- 46:28I want to hear it.
- 46:29>> Yeah.
- 46:29>> Commander injury report. Louvu DNP
- 46:31Thursday. Dorren Armstrong, edge rusher,
- 46:35limited Thursday. Chaissson, edge
- 46:37rusher, limited Thursday. Amenu lineman
- 46:40limited Thursday. Adafay, edge rusher,
- 46:43limited Thursday. Don Payne on the
- 46:45injury report. He did practice Thursday
- 46:47fully, but like this is the group I kind
- 46:49of liked. I was like, hey, you know, the
- 46:51Commander Dline was really competitive
- 46:53with Philly. Everybody's on the injury
- 46:55report now. They might all play,
- 46:57>> but that's not a good sign.
- 46:58>> Everybody in Lvu is playing. I'll just
- 47:00say it right now for sure. They're all
- 47:02so Luv is not going to play.
- 47:03>> He is not going to play. No.
- 47:04>> Yeah, he he didn't practice with a groin
- 47:05injury. He's definitely out.
- 47:07>> But they're all These guys are not 100%.
- 47:09>> It's a fair point. It's a fair point.
- 47:11>> The secondary stinks. And I I think that
- 47:14pass offense from Philly didn't really
- 47:15look like they were clicking. They hit a
- 47:17few big plays, but they were kind of eh
- 47:19I think Jones did some decent things.
- 47:21But if your thing is we're going to
- 47:22blitz, right? We're going to bring
- 47:23pressure because I'm from the Flores
- 47:25tree and we're going to muck it up. That
- 47:27doesn't work. Like Dak is dominant
- 47:28against the blitz. So, I think Dallas
- 47:30chooses their number offensively and
- 47:32then it's just a matter of can they get
- 47:33enough stops that I'm not that confident
- 47:35in,
- 47:36>> but I wish that was a part of the
- 47:38equation, but it always is.
- 47:40>> I mean, Dallas's team total is 27 and a
- 47:43half. So, if you guys want to play that,
- 47:44you can play it, but I I do think Dallas
- 47:46gets some stops here. I I I I really do.
- 47:49I I think Dallas at home is a is a
- 47:51different team. I also think they're
- 47:53they were getting used to Christian
- 47:54Parker's defense. It was game number
- 47:56one. And then also
- 47:58>> what did he do all summer?
- 48:00>> Also, I think was he on the beach?
- 48:02>> Is he in Gston?
- 48:04>> I think the Giants have a better
- 48:05offensive line than the Commanders. I
- 48:07think the Commanders offensive line,
- 48:10it's been an issue, and we've spoke
- 48:11about this all throughout training camp
- 48:13and all throughout the offseason. I
- 48:15think it'll be an issue here on their
- 48:18second straight divisional road game.
- 48:20Now, one thing I will say, this is a
- 48:22loser leaves town game because whoever
- 48:24loses this game, they going to be 0 and2
- 48:25in the division. No doubt.
- 48:27>> It's not going to be the Cowboys.
- 48:28>> No doubt.
- 48:28>> Yeah, I lay I laid four I laid three and
- 48:30a half early in the week and uh we have
- 48:33four and a half for the 107. I'm on it.
- 48:34Give me the Cowboys.
- 48:35>> I hope you're right.
- 48:36>> Yep.
- 48:36>> I hope uh I hope you know House is
- 48:39crying in his hands and come Sunday
- 48:41night, Sunday afternoon. But yeah. Yeah,
- 48:43Raheem, that defense is unlike any we've
- 48:46seen before. It has to get better. It
- 48:47can't be that you can run like four
- 48:49straight plays, the same plays, and and
- 48:51uh be successful. So, I expect
- 48:54>> At least we weren't the Detroit Lions.
- 48:56That's right. That's right. I I did
- 48:58>> They have an excuse because their whole
- 48:59team is injured like three start. What's
- 49:01the Cowboys excuse?
- 49:03>> I don't know. Well, I'll come.
- 49:04>> They had a full They had an in theory
- 49:05full I know's out now. They had a full
- 49:07strength team in week one.
- 49:10>> We had and Tyler like went for like 300
- 49:13yards and three touchdowns like in the
- 49:16last nine minutes of the game.
- 49:18>> Yes. I'm knocking stuff over.
- 49:20>> Oh, are you okay? Cuz
- 49:23>> I'm all right. I'm just
- 49:24>> Yeah, we gota send somebody over there
- 49:25to do a wellness check.
- 49:27>> Yeah.
- 49:28>> All right, Packers and Jets. Speaking of
- 49:29wellness checks, this is my this is my
- 49:32uh wise wager, my 107, my everything.
- 49:35The Packers laying three and a half on
- 49:36the road. 44 and a half is the total. Uh
- 49:40they were my week one wise wager. The
- 49:42Packers, they blew a double- digit lead
- 49:44to Carson Wentz. And did I learn my
- 49:46lesson? Not really, cuz they're my week
- 49:48two wise wager again. Green Bay minus
- 49:51three and a half against the undefeated
- 49:52Jets. I dug back in that Vikings Packers
- 49:55game and the Packers should have won.
- 49:57They should have. I'm not just saying
- 49:58that because I picked them. Their
- 49:59offense had the fifth most yards in the
- 50:02league after week one. Their defense
- 50:04allowed the third fewest yards in the
- 50:06league after week one. I don't know what
- 50:08the f happened, but this is a nice spot.
- 50:10There you go. There's the cheese head
- 50:11for Dundo. The losing Packers. Matt
- 50:13Laflur 14-7 against the spread after
- 50:16allowing 30 plus points the week before.
- 50:19Carson Wentz, Gino Smith. We're going to
- 50:22learn what Green Bay is made of this
- 50:23week. And I think they're made of points
- 50:25courtesy of Jordan Love. 3119. Pack back
- 50:29on track. My wise wager and my 107 pick.
- 50:32House, you're going against me here.
- 50:34>> Yeah, but it's not a strong play for me.
- 50:36There is weather in the forecast. Um,
- 50:39and it's supposed to that that could
- 50:40have an effect in terms of the scoring.
- 50:43Green Bay w was indeed explosive. I just
- 50:46worry that the the hangover effect of
- 50:50the abysmal way that they ended their
- 50:53season uh against the Chicago Bears in
- 50:56the postseason last year has just
- 50:58infected the whole situation. I came in
- 51:01super skeptical of this Green Bay team
- 51:03um for this upcoming season because of
- 51:05the lack of depth and strength on both
- 51:08their offensive line and their defensive
- 51:10line. That script held true to form. Uh,
- 51:14and als
- 51:18cooking for Minnesota. Uh, and and all
- 51:21of it came at the expense of Green Bay.
- 51:24There was a series that that Minnesota
- 51:26ended up scoring a touchdown on that
- 51:27really flipped the game. Um, where there
- 51:30was three different defensive penalties,
- 51:32any one of which, you know, could could
- 51:34have and should have gotten Green Bay
- 51:36out of the predicament they were in. But
- 51:38I didn't. Laflur took points off the
- 51:39board and then went for it on fourth and
- 51:41one and obviously didn't get it. Like I
- 51:43just don't like where they're at
- 51:45decision- making wise. I'm not This is
- 51:47not a a lock or strong play or any of
- 51:50it. I just can't get behind the Packers
- 51:52yet.
- 51:54>> Probably smart. I'm going the other way.
- 51:56The Bundo you're doing scares me.
- 51:58>> What do you What do you want to call
- 52:00this the Bundo? What you're doing?
- 52:01>> I don't know. We the little the Mad La
- 52:03Flop.
- 52:04>> Okay.
- 52:05>> Pretty good.
- 52:06>> Pretty good. Not bad.
- 52:08Look, I agree with you on the last week
- 52:11with Green Bay. I think that it's clear
- 52:13to me that they should have won that
- 52:15game. You know, I people may say I'm
- 52:17biased because I love the Packers, but
- 52:19look, I like the Vikings, too. So, you
- 52:21can't say that I'm I'm uh biased on that
- 52:24specific contest, but but what do we
- 52:27know about this game? A lot of rain.
- 52:29Green Bay can't run the ball. Green Bay
- 52:32is insistent and Matt Lafleur is
- 52:34stubborn as hell about the idea that
- 52:36they're going to run the ball. So, if
- 52:38they get a lead, which I think they
- 52:40might, do you trust them to hold that
- 52:42lead with this pass rush? No. Do you
- 52:44trust them to kill off a game with their
- 52:47run game? Also, no. And this has been
- 52:49really the story of the last month, you
- 52:52know, one week plus the end of last
- 52:54season of Green Bay football. This is
- 52:57this is the exact blueprint that has
- 52:59hurt them. It's not that they're
- 53:00chokers, it's just that they don't have
- 53:02a good recipe to kill off a game. So, if
- 53:04you want to lean into the narrative,
- 53:06it's nine to one at FanDuel. Green Bay
- 53:07to win the first half, Jets to come back
- 53:09to win.
- 53:10>> Gino, we've seen Gino orchestrate
- 53:12comebacks before. Now, I do want to
- 53:13issue some caution about the Jets
- 53:15because we have done this before. You
- 53:16only have to go back to last season.
- 53:19>> Maybe in hindsight, the overreaction
- 53:21game of the year was not Patriots
- 53:22Raiders, but in fact, Steelers Jets
- 53:24playing a 3432 classic in week one. And
- 53:28then the Jets took a ton of money all of
- 53:30week two, including myself. I bet the
- 53:32Jets and they they closed like plus five
- 53:34at home against the Bills and everybody
- 53:36was like, "This is a great bet. Look at
- 53:37us. We got RCLV and they threw for 40
- 53:40yards in the game and and really the
- 53:43offense went down the drain and it ended
- 53:46up being a bad offense." So, I don't
- 53:47want to overreact to the Jets. I think
- 53:48their line is legit. I think their
- 53:50quarterback has a a decent enough floor
- 53:52with that line.
- 53:54I don't trust Green Bay to hold out the
- 53:55game. No real strong opinion for me on
- 53:57the side, but I am absolutely betting
- 53:59that prop because if it happens, I want
- 54:01to be there for it. Matt Laflop nine to
- 54:03one.
- 54:04>> Wow.
- 54:05>> All right. Listen, Jets, Arizona
- 54:08Raiders.
- 54:09Um, two teams won last year their first
- 54:12game and then went on I I mentioned
- 54:13yesterday combined for like five five
- 54:15games wins the rest of the year. Uh, I
- 54:18don't know. Pick your poison. One of
- 54:20those teams is going to be bad house.
- 54:22That's how we'll do it.
- 54:23>> I'm really struggling with this game.
- 54:25And the reason why I'm struggling with
- 54:26it is because the preseason look
- 54:28aheadline on this game was Green Bay
- 54:30minus six and a half.
- 54:32>> It reopens at five and a half and now
- 54:34we're at Green Bay three and a half. So
- 54:36at what point does Green Bay have value?
- 54:38And I'm not really high on Green Bay
- 54:40this year. But it's just like
- 54:44>> it it's it's just like at some point
- 54:46it's just like all right
- 54:48>> I've looked at I like to look at a lot
- 54:50of other content creators. I like to see
- 54:51what other sharps are doing and
- 54:53everybody is on the jets and it's just
- 54:56like and I I typically don't like to,
- 54:58you know, say, "All right, this has
- 55:00value based on what somebody else is
- 55:01doing." But when I see every content
- 55:04creator on the Jets,
- 55:05>> it could be scary.
- 55:06>> There's something it's something wrong
- 55:08here. I just I don't know.
- 55:10>> All right, listen. I need to remind you.
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- 56:10in Connecticut. Let's move to some an
- 56:13afternoon game. Seattle at Arizona. No
- 56:17Sam Darnold. We got Drew Lock again.
- 56:19Arizona catching 4 and a half points at
- 56:21home. The total is 41 and a half. Oh,
- 56:24the Bundo, you're making this your man's
- 56:26best bet. Is Does it hurt a little to
- 56:28take something over plus 106?
- 56:30>> It does. But you know what doesn't hurt,
- 56:32S?
- 56:33>> Yeah.
- 56:34>> It's being one of the leaders of the of
- 56:36the Cardinals Curious Crew, the CCC.
- 56:40>> Oh, okay.
- 56:41>> Let it seize. Yeah.
- 56:42>> Yeah. Yeah. We I actually was thinking
- 56:44of a different word and I said, you know
- 56:45what, I'm not going to do that one. Uh
- 56:46we are the Cardinals curious crew
- 56:49because
- 56:50>> okay,
- 56:50>> in week one, we love the Cardinals. Was
- 56:53my wise wager team total plus the points
- 56:56should have taken the money line, too.
- 56:57I'm kind of mad I didn't knocked
- 56:59everybody out of their survivor pools.
- 57:02Great stuff for those of us who had the
- 57:03Steelers. And now everybody's saying,
- 57:06well, you know, week two, you know, week
- 57:08one can be a mirage and and you don't
- 57:10want to overreact. There's no
- 57:11overreaction here. We we we've stayed
- 57:14the same. We feel like this is the most
- 57:16underrated team in the NFL and I'm going
- 57:18back to the well again catching four and
- 57:21a half four in the market right now too
- 57:24against Drew Lock at home. I mean, how
- 57:26good do you have to make the Seahawks
- 57:27defense who especially since I don't
- 57:29think Iman War and Okata are going to
- 57:31play again? How good you have to make
- 57:33this defense to get to this number? I I
- 57:36think the Jacobe Brassette Cardinals are
- 57:39certainly better offensively than the
- 57:40Drew Locks Seahawks.
- 57:42>> And the EPA numbers for Seattle were
- 57:45fine. A lot of it was one big play.
- 57:48>> They didn't really move the ball that
- 57:49well at any point in the game. They had
- 57:51procedural issues. It's still a new OC.
- 57:53The Cardinals looked way further along
- 57:54in their install than Seattle did with
- 57:56the new offense. So, uh, give me Arizona
- 57:58at home
- 58:01>> to win the game up. You know what? And I
- 58:03love Look, I it pains me to bet against
- 58:05Mike McDonald because I really do think
- 58:07he's on the cutting edge and that I
- 58:09don't know if this helps or not, but my
- 58:10I don't know if you could hear in the
- 58:11background, my dog barked. My dog has
- 58:13never barked. It's barely a dog. And now
- 58:15it's barking during the Bundle's
- 58:17underdog pick, which is just uh now I'm
- 58:19going to I may have to change my mind
- 58:21here. Arizona could be the pick, but
- 58:24Raheem has other thoughts. It's one of
- 58:26his 107 picks.
- 58:27>> Raheem, don't do it to me.
- 58:28>> I am doing it to you.
- 58:30>> It's a disgrace. I I'm doing it to you.
- 58:33Um I'm taking Seattle minus 3 and 12
- 58:36minus 118 on FanDuel Sportsbook. Here's
- 58:39the thing.
- 58:41The preseason look aheadline on this
- 58:43game was 10.
- 58:44>> Yeah, but that was wrong.
- 58:48>> I can't say if it was right or wrong.
- 58:49>> The preseason look aheadline on the
- 58:51Cardinals was they were like the worst
- 58:52team ever and like they should say it
- 58:54was right or wrong. They're going to win
- 58:55two games. I I I'm not saying it's right
- 58:58or wrong, but oddsmakers before this
- 59:00year, they open this line at 10.
- 59:04So, are you telling me that the
- 59:08difference between Sam Darnold and Drew
- 59:11Lock is 6 and 12 points?
- 59:15No,
- 59:15>> five and a half points. Six and a half
- 59:17points. If you're looking at it from
- 59:18three and a half to to four and a half,
- 59:20that's a lot of points. And I still
- 59:23think the best unit on this field is the
- 59:26Seattle defense. And you saw what
- 59:28Seattle did to Jacobe Brazette and this
- 59:32Arizona Cardinals offense last year.
- 59:35They won 44 to 22.
- 59:37>> Well, that's one of the games. Hold on a
- 59:38second.
- 59:39>> That's one of the games Jacob didn't
- 59:40play the first game.
- 59:42>> He didn't play He didn't play the first
- 59:43game.
- 59:44>> Sure.
- 59:44>> He did not play the first game.
- 59:46>> Yeah, it was also in Seattle.
- 59:48I'm just saying I just don't think I
- 59:51think this adjustment is way too high.
- 59:54And then I think what Arizona did last
- 59:57week was more indicative of
- 1:00:01the state of the Chargers at this point
- 1:00:03cuz I think the Chargers are bad. Like
- 1:00:05legitimately bad this year and they have
- 1:00:07some offensive line issues and they
- 1:00:10could not move the ball. I think Drew
- 1:00:13Lock and Seattle Seahawks, they're
- 1:00:15coming off of a long week, so they had
- 1:00:18plenty of time to prepare. You know, I
- 1:00:20think you give teams an extra bump for
- 1:00:23playing on Thursday Night Football.
- 1:00:25>> Mhm.
- 1:00:25>> Going into the following week. I like
- 1:00:28Seattle here with the three and a half.
- 1:00:29I think I'm I'm buying low on a Super
- 1:00:32Bowl team, a Super Bowl champion
- 1:00:34>> tonight, right? Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:00:35>> Yeah. Actually, they play Wednesday
- 1:00:36night, so they got even more time. So,
- 1:00:38I'm buying low on the Super Bowl
- 1:00:40champions. And if you guys read, I
- 1:00:42always mention this all the time. If you
- 1:00:43if you read Billy Walter's book, he said
- 1:00:46Super Bowl champions,
- 1:00:48first four weeks of the season, they get
- 1:00:50a little bump. It might be like a half a
- 1:00:52point or so. So, you got the fact that
- 1:00:56>> they're eliminating about six and a half
- 1:00:58points, six points from this spread with
- 1:01:01Drew Lock
- 1:01:03coming in for Sam Darnold, who a lot of
- 1:01:06us don't respect that much anyway. Like,
- 1:01:08when you really sit down and think about
- 1:01:09it, who won the Super Bowl? Kenneth
- 1:01:10Walker won the Super Bowl for them.
- 1:01:11Kenneth Walker on the defense. So why
- 1:01:14can't they come up with a game plan with
- 1:01:16a week and a half against this Arizona
- 1:01:18Cardinal team? I'm buying low.
- 1:01:20>> All right, full transparency cuz for if
- 1:01:22anyone cares out there. So the updated
- 1:01:24line is 4 and a half, right? That's this
- 1:01:27Friday morning thing that we're doing.
- 1:01:28Uh Raheem says three and a half cuz
- 1:01:30that's the 107 line we got. We the
- 1:01:32Thursday morning we lock in or Thursday
- 1:01:34uh four and a half is the 107 line.
- 1:01:38>> Oh, okay. The three and a half is
- 1:01:39available right now.
- 1:01:41>> Yeah. So, so what? Yeah, it's
- 1:01:44>> I told you about it, right?
- 1:01:45>> So, so FanDuel is interesting and you
- 1:01:48guys got to really look at the site
- 1:01:50because if you go if you go on the site,
- 1:01:54>> they don't have standard 110 lines.
- 1:01:57>> It's just every way.
- 1:01:58>> So, if you look at the Arizona Cardinals
- 1:02:00at plus 4 and a half, it's at minus 120
- 1:02:04with Seattle at minus 102. But you can
- 1:02:08go down and and toggle the spread list
- 1:02:11and you'll see Seattle minus three and a
- 1:02:14half minus 118.
- 1:02:16>> There you go.
- 1:02:17>> And then you'll see me. So that's
- 1:02:20typically what I like.
- 1:02:21>> The line's basically four in the market.
- 1:02:23>> Yeah, it's four
- 1:02:24>> if you look across books.
- 1:02:25>> Yeah.
- 1:02:25>> Yeah.
- 1:02:26>> House you're not worried about.
- 1:02:27>> The 107 live since we are going to be
- 1:02:29judged against this arbitrary contest
- 1:02:31with no prize.
- 1:02:32>> Uh is four and a half.
- 1:02:34>> It is four and a half. All right. I miss
- 1:02:36>> either way. I like it. This it's it's
- 1:02:37going to be one of my 107 picks. I I
- 1:02:39like Seattle. Seattle be a great result.
- 1:02:43>> House, you're like three and a half,
- 1:02:44four and a half. I don't care. I like
- 1:02:46Trey McBride. 60.
- 1:02:48>> I I I may end up uh with this one in my
- 1:02:51107. I I my lean is in the direction of
- 1:02:54Seattle just because my respect for
- 1:02:55McDonald. It's the McDonald thing. It's
- 1:02:57I mean, the Florida rookie coming.
- 1:02:59>> Respect respect Mike. I I I I
- 1:03:04>> I respect 50% of the little floor
- 1:03:06brothers for sure. Uh yeah, I'm playing
- 1:03:08Trey McBride. Trey McBride cooks against
- 1:03:09the Seattle um defense and it's by
- 1:03:12design. Seattle with the uh split safety
- 1:03:15cover six looks just the inside of the
- 1:03:17field is available and Jacobe Brassette
- 1:03:20loves throwing the football to Trey
- 1:03:22McBride. the last four games against
- 1:03:25Seattle with this the coverage that they
- 1:03:27play 12 catches for 133 yards, 7 for 70,
- 1:03:317 for 52, nine for 127. That averages
- 1:03:35out to 95 and a half yards per game. The
- 1:03:37line is 60 and a half at FanDuel right
- 1:03:40now. Trey McBride had 10 targets last
- 1:03:42week. Uh that that is he is the
- 1:03:45Brassette safety blanket and I think
- 1:03:47Arizona will be looking for for for
- 1:03:49safety against this uh Seattle defense.
- 1:03:52So over 60 and a half receiving yards,
- 1:03:55minus 114 in the FanDuel sports book.
- 1:03:57>> All right, I got the same thing here,
- 1:03:59House. I'm expecting big things out of
- 1:04:00McBride, but I'm playing it this way.
- 1:04:02Jacobe Brassette more passing yards than
- 1:04:04Drew Lock. It's minus 138. Little juicy,
- 1:04:06but I'm going to read some numbers to
- 1:04:08you and then we're going to speak
- 1:04:08Italian and that's going to be that. Uh
- 1:04:10Drew Lockach had fewer than 200 yards
- 1:04:13passing in week one versus the Patriots.
- 1:04:15He's gone under 230 passing in five of
- 1:04:18his last six. Jacobe Brassette, on the
- 1:04:20other hand, is a mad man. He was 27 of
- 1:04:2237 277 against the Chargers and more
- 1:04:25importantly 240 plus in 10 of his last
- 1:04:2912 games. I think this one's easy. Win
- 1:04:31or lose, blowout or no blowout, I think
- 1:04:33Brassette has more passing yards than
- 1:04:35Drew Lock. You have to pay minus 138.
- 1:04:39All right, Colts at Chiefs Kansas City 6
- 1:04:42and 12 point favorite. The total is 46
- 1:04:45and a half. This is a Sunday night game
- 1:04:47which is not good news. I don't know if
- 1:04:49anyone told Daniel Jones because he is
- 1:04:51the worst prime time quarterback in the
- 1:04:54history of football. He's 1 and5.
- 1:04:58>> He's worse than Kurt Cousins.
- 1:05:00>> That's cuz they never gave us any prime
- 1:05:01time. We were good last year cuz they
- 1:05:03didn't think we're going to be any good.
- 1:05:04>> One and 15.
- 1:05:06>> Yeah. Yes. I don't I think Cousins I
- 1:05:08don't think he's worse than that. I
- 1:05:08think Cousins maybe has two wins only
- 1:05:10because he's been around longer. I don't
- 1:05:12know what it is, but one and 15. the
- 1:05:14bundo. You're making this. You're trying
- 1:05:16to go two in a row with your wise wagers
- 1:05:18and you're taking a total here.
- 1:05:20>> I am taking a total this week under 46
- 1:05:22and a half
- 1:05:23>> wise wager. I I was really tempted to
- 1:05:26play Indie again and I I know that I
- 1:05:28made a fool of myself on last week's
- 1:05:29podcast when I came on here and I said,
- 1:05:31you know, Colts three and a half
- 1:05:33probably the worst bet I'll make for a
- 1:05:34few weeks until uh one later coming up
- 1:05:36in the show. But uh I love this under
- 1:05:40and I I think when I watched the Colts
- 1:05:42Ravens back, I only did it with one eye
- 1:05:44open and I was like half asleep and I
- 1:05:46put it on like 3x speed cuz I didn't
- 1:05:47really want to watch the game. But what
- 1:05:49I noticed is that almost all of the
- 1:05:51mistakes that happened on the Indie
- 1:05:53defense were communication and over the
- 1:05:55middle. And it was like Holly not
- 1:05:57picking up a route, Wall-E and Holly
- 1:06:00having a miscommunication that led to a
- 1:06:03significant mishap that led to a big Z
- 1:06:05Flowers play or just Lamar Jackson doing
- 1:06:07some crazy [ __ ] like ducking under two
- 1:06:09defenders on third and 17 and scrambling
- 1:06:11for a first down or dodging one defender
- 1:06:13and then beating two guys down the field
- 1:06:15for another third down conversion with
- 1:06:16his legs. A lot of that [ __ ] is probably
- 1:06:19not going to happen again in week two.
- 1:06:22Famous last words, probably not. And
- 1:06:24they're they're playing an offense
- 1:06:25that's just not explosive. I mean, the
- 1:06:28underrated part of this, everybody is
- 1:06:29gushing over Ken Walker. And I get it.
- 1:06:31He broke a thousand tackles and had a
- 1:06:33bunch of explosive runs. Their offensive
- 1:06:35run game down to down was worse with Ken
- 1:06:38Walker last week. Their success rate on
- 1:06:40runs was worse. They were more boomer
- 1:06:43bust. But what happens to this offense
- 1:06:45if they're not as consistent on the run
- 1:06:47game and they're not able to get those
- 1:06:49chunks because they play a team that
- 1:06:50actually tackles for this week? I think
- 1:06:52it could take a step back and I don't
- 1:06:54think the Chiefs are the team that can
- 1:06:55be explosive right now. Mahomes is going
- 1:06:57to run a bunch. I'm sure he'll be
- 1:06:58successful there. They have nobody that
- 1:07:00can beat man coverage and I don't think
- 1:07:02this is nearly as bad of a matchup for
- 1:07:04the Colts as last week was. On the other
- 1:07:06side of the ball, we got Danny Dimes who
- 1:07:09didn't throw down the field and didn't
- 1:07:10run. And if you're not doing those two
- 1:07:12things, you got a problem with this
- 1:07:13offense. Alec Pierce is DNP on Thursday.
- 1:07:16He didn't look healthy to me uh 100% at
- 1:07:19least in week one. So, you're taking
- 1:07:21away explosiveness from Indie. We know
- 1:07:23the Chiefs are probably not getting that
- 1:07:24kind of offensive performance. Again, we
- 1:07:26know the Chiefs are a home under
- 1:07:28machine. It's like 79% or something in
- 1:07:30the last few years. I think this all to
- 1:07:33me points to like a 24 23-20 game. Uh,
- 1:07:36so give me the under 46 and a half wise
- 1:07:39wager.
- 1:07:40>> It's bag in his bag.
- 1:07:44>> Wow. All right, Joe House, you have a
- 1:07:45nice little SGP you put together for us.
- 1:07:47>> I love the underplay here. And the Bundo
- 1:07:51um got to the most salient point, which
- 1:07:53is all that Kansas City does at home is
- 1:07:55play unders. Uh, I don't I don't I like
- 1:07:58about 10% of the rest of your analysis
- 1:08:01because I don't see a bounce back out of
- 1:08:04this Colts defense in any way, shape, or
- 1:08:06form. Um, I I I
- 1:08:09do respect Stiken. Um, they gave it to
- 1:08:12Kansas City last year and the the Colts
- 1:08:14sort of in general played Kansas City
- 1:08:16tough um when they're headtohead, but
- 1:08:19Danny Dimes can't move. This is the the
- 1:08:22the guys coming off of big serious
- 1:08:24injuries. We have a head-to-head. It's a
- 1:08:27referendum. It's Momes whose average
- 1:08:29depth of of, you know, a tenth last week
- 1:08:32was 2.5 yards, whatever the crazy number
- 1:08:35was. He he didn't complete a single pass
- 1:08:37of 10 yards uh air yards. And uh Danny
- 1:08:41Dimes, who can't load up on the
- 1:08:44Achilles, uh or or run. So, I I'm not
- 1:08:47getting in involved. Um I want to play
- 1:08:50just simply Kenneth Walker anytime
- 1:08:51touchdown, but that's minus 220. If you
- 1:08:54pair that with the Chiefs to win
- 1:08:55outright at home, which is what I think
- 1:08:58is going to happen, it's minus 124. It's
- 1:09:00a It's just a little two-leg parlay,
- 1:09:02mini same game parlay, minus 124 for the
- 1:09:04Chiefs to hold serve at home. And you
- 1:09:08know, the the Colts have a lot to sort
- 1:09:10out still.
- 1:09:12>> The Bundo, I'm taking your team as a 107
- 1:09:15pick.
- 1:09:15>> I love it.
- 1:09:17>> The Colts,
- 1:09:18>> it's a classic.
- 1:09:19>> I just told you I am. Yeah, that's
- 1:09:21that's
- 1:09:22>> Well, it might just be you. I mean, it's
- 1:09:23like Chiefs are back. Chiefs amazing,
- 1:09:27Colts stink.
- 1:09:29>> Well, D's ass on the road at D's ass in
- 1:09:33prime time.
- 1:09:35>> I think there's a lot more people
- 1:09:36betting the Colts than you realize.
- 1:09:38>> Not the average.
- 1:09:39>> I mean, it is has not gone to seven yet,
- 1:09:41right? So, are getting at six and a
- 1:09:42half, but here's my reasoning. Chiefs
- 1:09:44have not won consecutive games by seven
- 1:09:46points or more in 12 straight games.
- 1:09:48These This is the Kansas City Chiefs
- 1:09:50that everybody knows and loves, right?
- 1:09:52Mahomes, three straight games under 200
- 1:09:54yards passing. We talked about how uh
- 1:09:57maybe inefficient that efficient offense
- 1:09:59was last week. And the Colts have not
- 1:10:00lost their first road games of the
- 1:10:02season to Bundo, you probably know this,
- 1:10:05by more than six points in four years.
- 1:10:07They won their first road game last year
- 1:10:09by 21. Stiken 12-6 against the spread as
- 1:10:12a road dog. Showed a little life in the
- 1:10:14second half. Tokens, I'm back to not
- 1:10:16writing your team off here. They'll lose
- 1:10:18a more typical Chiefs game Sunday night
- 1:10:202219.
- 1:10:22>> I mean, just think about the price, too.
- 1:10:23Like the Denver closed one and a half
- 1:10:25point dogs.
- 1:10:26>> How much you upgrading KC? I mean,
- 1:10:29Denver and Indie for me were not rated
- 1:10:30that different before the season. I had
- 1:10:31Denver about a point better.
- 1:10:33>> Mhm.
- 1:10:33>> You bumped both teams a point. You get
- 1:10:35to like four and a half, five here.
- 1:10:39>> I didn't I did not see an explosive
- 1:10:41offense, but convince the others, not
- 1:10:43me. Let's go to uh let's ride, baby.
- 1:10:45>> Let's go to LA. My backyard Raiders at
- 1:10:48Chargers. Chargers another six and a
- 1:10:49half point favorite here. Chargers 43
- 1:10:51and a half is the overunder. Chargers
- 1:10:54fans will get overwhelmed and
- 1:10:56demolished. The fans at least lots of
- 1:10:58fights I'm guessing right there in the
- 1:11:00stands. Ed Soofi Raheem, you're playing
- 1:11:03a total in this one. I'm going under.
- 1:11:06And the big reason why is when you look
- 1:11:08at the Chargers, you're missing Lab
- 1:11:10Maki.
- 1:11:12You're already missing one of your
- 1:11:14starters on the offensive line. And now
- 1:11:16Trey Pippens is is hurt as well. So you
- 1:11:20couldn't really score against Arizona. I
- 1:11:22know the Raiders defense is worse, but
- 1:11:24without Lab Makanki, you don't really
- 1:11:27have any explosiveness at all. So I
- 1:11:30think this could be one of those lower
- 1:11:32scoring divisional matchups, I think
- 1:11:35this line should be closer to 40 than
- 1:11:37closer to 44. So I'm going under here.
- 1:11:41All right, Joe House, you have a you
- 1:11:43have a side pick,
- 1:11:45>> just a a lean again based on on prior.
- 1:11:49Uh is Harbaugh really going to start the
- 1:11:51season 0 and2 losing to the Cardinals
- 1:11:54and the Raiders? I don't think so. He
- 1:11:57did come on uh you know, one of the
- 1:12:00press conferences and say they probably
- 1:12:02should have uh played more starters in
- 1:12:04the preseason. Um you think so, coach?
- 1:12:06You think that might have helped a
- 1:12:08little bit? They were clearly not ready
- 1:12:11in any way, shape, or form. Um, this
- 1:12:14Raiders defense throughout the preeason
- 1:12:17left a ton to be desired, and they
- 1:12:20really didn't impress against the
- 1:12:22Dolphins last week. So, I think this is
- 1:12:24a get-right spot for the Chargers. I
- 1:12:27don't have a huge play on it right now.
- 1:12:29I'm I may find myself into um them on my
- 1:12:33107 card come Sunday. I'm not there yet,
- 1:12:35but I like the Chargers to get right and
- 1:12:37win by margin. Uh, potentially.
- 1:12:40>> All right, the Bundo, you did the Jets,
- 1:12:43Packers. You did Packers first half,
- 1:12:45Jets to win. I love these bets. FanDuel
- 1:12:48offers them. I'm doing Raiders first
- 1:12:50half, Chargers win the game plus 650.
- 1:12:53So, Mike Tomlin left the Steelers for
- 1:12:54NBC. And with him, he took my South
- 1:12:57Steelers special, which was the Steelers
- 1:12:59to lose the first half coupled with the
- 1:13:01Steelers to win the game. It was a
- 1:13:02miraculous gift for him. It hit like
- 1:13:04five times a year for three years. Six
- 1:13:07to eight to 10 to one odds. Sometimes I
- 1:13:09won all sorts of awards, the Billy
- 1:13:11Walters Medal of Honor or something. I
- 1:13:13think I still have it in the back there.
- 1:13:14But now it's over cuz Tomlin's gone. So
- 1:13:16I'm auditioning other specials with the
- 1:13:19same setup. And I'm giving the Chargers
- 1:13:21a chance here. Plus 650 that they blow
- 1:13:23the first half only to win the game.
- 1:13:25I'll be cursing Mike McDaniel and
- 1:13:27Harbaugh and Herbert and the Raiders
- 1:13:29fans at Sofi for an hour and a half
- 1:13:32before the Bolts get back on track. The
- 1:13:34Sal South South Bay special for now. I
- 1:13:38don't know. Chargers lose the first
- 1:13:39half, win the game plus 650. De Bundo, I
- 1:13:43skipped you, but you're leaning towards
- 1:13:44Raheem's pick of the under, right? Yeah,
- 1:13:47I think they're going to try to run the
- 1:13:48ball early. I think if you have Manki,
- 1:13:50you come out, you try to run all over
- 1:13:52this Raiders defense. Let's see what
- 1:13:53they look like against a more competent
- 1:13:55offense. Let's see if Mikey Mack can
- 1:13:56cook up a good run game cuz it didn't
- 1:13:58really look that way in the first game
- 1:14:00against the Cardinals, but also they
- 1:14:01were up against the script most of that
- 1:14:03game
- 1:14:04>> because their defense put them in a hole
- 1:14:05early and because Arizona controlled so
- 1:14:07much of the game. They barely had the
- 1:14:09ball in the first half and by the time
- 1:14:10they finally got possessions, they were
- 1:14:11down, you know, 10, seven points. So, I
- 1:14:15think this this is just a good
- 1:14:16opportunity for the Chargers to try to
- 1:14:18come out and and hit the reset button
- 1:14:20and do what they actually wanted to do
- 1:14:21before the season started, and that's be
- 1:14:23a more controlled run team and and build
- 1:14:26off of that.
- 1:14:27>> All right, there you go. All right,
- 1:14:28we're moving on to Panthers at Falcons.
- 1:14:32>> Catching two and a half, we don't have
- 1:14:34to spend a lot of time on it. I mean,
- 1:14:36House, you're making this one of your
- 1:14:38best bets, your man's best bet for God's
- 1:14:40sakes. 43 and a half is the total. What
- 1:14:42you going with, House? Yeah, I'm taking
- 1:14:44the Atlanta Falcons at home getting
- 1:14:46points from the the Carolina Panthers.
- 1:14:50Um, does anybody know who's playing
- 1:14:52quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons?
- 1:14:55>> Rush, I think.
- 1:14:56>> Well, they haven't they haven't made an
- 1:14:58official announcement.
- 1:14:59>> Doesn't matter the house. No one's
- 1:15:01volunteering. They ask every like three
- 1:15:03hours and say, "Raise your hand,
- 1:15:04please."
- 1:15:05>> Who's the Georgia quarterback? Could he
- 1:15:06do double duty? I
- 1:15:07>> I mean, Right. Right. If you're if you
- 1:15:09have
- 1:15:10>> a bell to install steady quarterbacks
- 1:15:12like or alltime quarterback whatever you
- 1:15:14call Joe it's just Joe Flacco that would
- 1:15:17be perfect
- 1:15:19with all the teams he shows up for one
- 1:15:21game 60-year-old uncle does on
- 1:15:23Thanksgiving right he's not going to run
- 1:15:25routes the Thanksgiving game so yeah
- 1:15:27he's a quarterback all time
- 1:15:29>> if was the quarterback for Atlanta this
- 1:15:31line would be Atlanta minus you know six
- 1:15:33or something
- 1:15:34>> yeah uh I'm just not prepared to um live
- 1:15:38in a world where Carolina as a favorite
- 1:15:40is going to go on the road and and win a
- 1:15:42football game. Uh they are 0 and9
- 1:15:45against the spread last nine times they
- 1:15:48were favored. On on the other hand, they
- 1:15:50are 9 and0 coming off of a loss in their
- 1:15:52last nine games. None of that matters um
- 1:15:55to this handicap. I thought Atlanta
- 1:15:58against Pittsburgh was super duper live
- 1:16:03even with the short armed uh weak armed
- 1:16:07Cooper Rush playing quarterback. Um they
- 1:16:11got Bejon in a whole bunch of different
- 1:16:14kind of schemes. I was so impressed. I
- 1:16:17had Pittsburgh as my survivor pick. Home
- 1:16:20team against Atlanta. Atlanta's defense
- 1:16:22was weak. Uh Atlanta gave the Steelers
- 1:16:26everything they could handle. They
- 1:16:27missed two field go field field goals.
- 1:16:29Atlanta did. Um I I I had to rerate um
- 1:16:34Atlanta based on what I saw out of that
- 1:16:36game. I think Atlanta uh this is a a
- 1:16:39divisional home dog in week two. Atlanta
- 1:16:42goes ahead and hold serve against
- 1:16:44Carolina um this week.
- 1:16:47>> All right. I mean, I'll say something
- 1:16:48nice about Atlanta. I really don't want
- 1:16:49to take teams in these NF South MC South
- 1:16:52slopfest matchups, but I'll go with a
- 1:16:54player prop. As Atlanta's offense and
- 1:16:56pass game in particular gets murkier and
- 1:16:59murkier, one thing seems to be certain,
- 1:17:01Bejan Robinson is going to be the focal
- 1:17:03point of the offense. I'm going six plus
- 1:17:06receptions at plus 122. He had 10
- 1:17:09targets from Cooper Rush last week,
- 1:17:10eight receptions. It's quick, it's easy.
- 1:17:13He had a bunch of games last year where
- 1:17:15he had 10 or more targets and a half
- 1:17:17dozen games with six plus grabs. So,
- 1:17:18they need him now more than ever, plus
- 1:17:20money for six or more receptions out of
- 1:17:23Bejon. Uh, Raheem, you're going against
- 1:17:25Atlanta entirely, laying a a a juicy
- 1:17:28number on the money line here.
- 1:17:29>> So, you you got certain matchups in
- 1:17:31sports where one guy just has the other
- 1:17:35team's number. You got Dak versus the
- 1:17:37NFC East.
- 1:17:39>> You got Luca Donicage whenever he sees
- 1:17:43the Phoenix Suns.
- 1:17:45You got Michael Jordan versus the
- 1:17:47Knicks. Well, I hate to say this, but
- 1:17:49you got Bryce Young versus the Atlanta
- 1:17:52Falcons. Like, I know it sounds crazy,
- 1:17:55but Bryce Young has 14 wins in his
- 1:17:58career. Almost 30% of his wins have come
- 1:18:01against the Atlanta Falcons, including
- 1:18:03three straight.
- 1:18:064438 the last three games. 4438.
- 1:18:1030 to nothing. 30-27. So, he puts up
- 1:18:13points on this Atlanta Falcons defense
- 1:18:15for whatever reason. And now he gets to
- 1:18:18play them without James Pierce, without
- 1:18:21Jaylen Walker. I gave this out earlier
- 1:18:23in the week. It was one and a half. It's
- 1:18:25now up to two and a half. I wouldn't I
- 1:18:27don't really like to play that number,
- 1:18:29but I think the I think Carolina's going
- 1:18:31to win this game. I I I really do. They
- 1:18:33are nine and0 against the spread off of
- 1:18:36a loss the last two seasons. We know
- 1:18:39they played that high power Bears
- 1:18:42offense. Well, I don't know where the
- 1:18:44offense is coming from for
- 1:18:45>> the no power Falcons offense
- 1:18:47>> because who's the quarterback? I mean,
- 1:18:50>> four completed passes last week.
- 1:18:52>> Yeah. So,
- 1:18:53>> four completed passes.
- 1:18:54>> If Bryce Young continues to hate the
- 1:18:56Atlanta Falcons, I think he could play
- 1:18:58the money line. Let's lay the 142.
- 1:19:00>> All right, Debundo, you have a nice
- 1:19:02little teaser special for us later in
- 1:19:04the show, but you want to
- 1:19:07Yeah. Yeah, anytime you can get a short
- 1:19:10home divisional dog up over seven in a
- 1:19:12game with a total this low, I know it's
- 1:19:14Cooper Rush. I know it might be Jack
- 1:19:16Strand. It might be Michael Penn.
- 1:19:18>> It might be Tua Back from the dead.
- 1:19:20Probably not. But uh I think they're the
- 1:19:22best teaser leg of the week. So, I'm
- 1:19:24teasing the Falcons.
- 1:19:25>> Jack Strand, Minnesota State. I don't
- 1:19:27even know their mascot. I know all the
- 1:19:29mascots. I couldn't tell you what
- 1:19:30Minnesota State is. Put it in the chat
- 1:19:31if you uh if you know. I dare you. So,
- 1:19:34all right. Let's move on. Saints at
- 1:19:36Ravens. Baltimore laying 8 and a half.
- 1:19:39The total is 46
- 1:19:42and a half. Ravens 1 and 0. Saints also
- 1:19:45should be 1 and 0, but they're not.
- 1:19:47They're on the road. And Raheem Palmer,
- 1:19:49Aari's wager champ, has a wise wager bet
- 1:19:53on this particular matchup.
- 1:19:55>> All right, so this full game line
- 1:19:57doesn't make any sense to me. You got
- 1:20:00the Ravens laying eight and a half to
- 1:20:03the New Orleans Saints.
- 1:20:05I think this line should be closer to
- 1:20:0710.
- 1:20:08>> And if I look at my model, I actually
- 1:20:11have it like 12.
- 1:20:13So last week, I want to remind everybody
- 1:20:17the Lions were laying seven to the same
- 1:20:20New Orleans Saints team.
- 1:20:23So you telling me that the the Ravens
- 1:20:24are only a point and a half better than
- 1:20:26the Lions? We just saw the Lions last
- 1:20:28night. They get they got trashed.
- 1:20:31>> You saw last week against New Orleans.
- 1:20:34Tyler Shuck look like Joe Montana in the
- 1:20:36second half. So you telling me this line
- 1:20:38is only eight and a half? It's not
- 1:20:39making sense.
- 1:20:41>> So a lot of people are picking the
- 1:20:43Saints. They're coming into this matchup
- 1:20:44and saying, "All right, Z Flowers, he's
- 1:20:47out for this matchup.
- 1:20:49Jacobe Lane, he's out for this matchup."
- 1:20:53Well, that doesn't matter because when
- 1:20:56you really sit down and look at it, how
- 1:20:58did the Lions win last week? They ran
- 1:21:01all over this New Orleans Saints team
- 1:21:04like like they ran everywhere up down
- 1:21:09like like I just if if you look at
- 1:21:15this Ravens offense even without Z
- 1:21:17Flowers even without
- 1:21:19>> I got good news Raheem I'm going to cut
- 1:21:20you off here. Z Flowers is practicing
- 1:21:21today just broke
- 1:21:24>> might be playing.
- 1:21:25>> He might be playing. Honestly, I don't
- 1:21:27care who plays because you got Derk
- 1:21:30Henry and Dererick Henry is going to run
- 1:21:32all over this team. So, I just look at
- 1:21:35it like this line is way too short. And
- 1:21:38then more importantly, we know Lamar
- 1:21:41Jackson in the first half, and this is
- 1:21:43my bet. I'm going with the Ravens first
- 1:21:44half. I gave this out last week against
- 1:21:46the Colts. We going back to the well.
- 1:21:49Ravens first half minus 5 and a half.
- 1:21:52And this is a Saints team who last year
- 1:21:56they were 4-12 against the first half.
- 1:21:58So you have two trends which line up
- 1:22:01perfectly and you have a Ravens team
- 1:22:03which I believe is a Super Bowl
- 1:22:05contender. They had the highest win
- 1:22:06total on the board. Just lay it with the
- 1:22:09Ravens first half.
- 1:22:11>> All right.
- 1:22:12>> House is taking your first half bet and
- 1:22:15making half of that bet. Right. I'm I'm
- 1:22:18lost with the math. house is like it's
- 1:22:20the first quarter.
- 1:22:21>> Yeah, I I really love um Dreams Ravens
- 1:22:25first half play and I think that's also
- 1:22:28an until further notice. Just play it
- 1:22:31every week until they they they they
- 1:22:33drop one. But uh I heard something on
- 1:22:36one of the preview shows this week that
- 1:22:38caught my attention. I had to look this
- 1:22:39up. The New Orleans Saints are one of
- 1:22:42the worst teams in the first quarter
- 1:22:45maybe in the history of of of football.
- 1:22:48Last season they scored on only 14% of
- 1:22:51their first quarter drives. The NFL
- 1:22:54average is 33%. They had 19 three and
- 1:22:57outs in their first quarter. Uh the
- 1:22:59worst in the entire NFL last season.
- 1:23:01They opened against the Detroit Lions
- 1:23:03with a scoreless for first quarter last
- 1:23:06week. Uh with with an opening three and
- 1:23:09out. This is the the the handicap
- 1:23:12though. Um Ravens laying two and a half.
- 1:23:16This is by far, by a long shot, the most
- 1:23:20uh uh complete defense that Tyler Shuck
- 1:23:23will have faced in his entire NFL
- 1:23:25career. He's never seen a defense like
- 1:23:27this before. And it's Jesse Menter in
- 1:23:30his bag, having the benefit of watching
- 1:23:32how the Saints had success against
- 1:23:34Detroit. I love Baltimore coming out
- 1:23:37fast, putting a strangle hold at least
- 1:23:39early in this game on on the Saints. And
- 1:23:42they only have to cover two and a half,
- 1:23:44the Ravens. This is my 1B wise wager of
- 1:23:47I know we're only allowed one wise wager
- 1:23:49and mine's on Houston but this is 1B for
- 1:23:51me. I really love this play. The Ravens
- 1:23:54minus one and a half first quarter.
- 1:23:55Minus two and a half first quarterly
- 1:23:56less wise wager.
- 1:23:58>> Yes. Yes. Still very smart but not as
- 1:24:00wise.
- 1:24:01>> Intelligent but not wise. Big
- 1:24:02difference. We have another We have
- 1:24:04another deer on the
- 1:24:06>> Yeah, I like a lot of totals this week.
- 1:24:07Tony totals.
- 1:24:09>> I'm actually was looking I'm 5 and0 on
- 1:24:10totals this year. 3 last week and uh
- 1:24:13>> nice little uh second half under a
- 1:24:15little over last night, but
- 1:24:18I like the under here. Now, I don't love
- 1:24:20that Zay Flowers just got announced to
- 1:24:22be practicing and probably gonna play
- 1:24:23because that that was I was kind of
- 1:24:24banking on them not being quite as
- 1:24:26explosive. But this is Jesse Mentor
- 1:24:27against Brandon Staley. Two defensive
- 1:24:30coordinators who are designed to take
- 1:24:32away explosive plays and two if
- 1:24:36Baltimore wants to come out and run
- 1:24:37Henry a bunch and we know like and I
- 1:24:40agree with House's point about about
- 1:24:42Shuck not playing any defense near the
- 1:24:44caliber of this Ravens team, I think
- 1:24:46that just portends to an under in this
- 1:24:47game. Now, I don't love One thing that
- 1:24:49would scare me a little bit. They talked
- 1:24:50to Menter at halftime and it kind of
- 1:24:52stuck with me and even after the game,
- 1:24:54he talked about keeping his foot down,
- 1:24:56pedal to the metal, and not wanting to
- 1:24:57relent. That has been a problem for
- 1:24:59Ravens teams in the past. So, are the
- 1:25:00Ravens going to be more aggressive in
- 1:25:02fourth quarters than they've been in the
- 1:25:03past. Don't love that if you're betting
- 1:25:05the under certainly, but I do think,
- 1:25:07again, this is kind of correlated to my
- 1:25:09Colts handicap. I think a lot of what
- 1:25:11happened last week in the Baltimore game
- 1:25:13was brand new offense got a lot of young
- 1:25:16middle linebackers and safeties in
- 1:25:18conflict and nickel corners and caused a
- 1:25:20lot of confusion and disruption that led
- 1:25:22to a lot more explosiveness. Yes,
- 1:25:24Baltimore's going to be explosive, but
- 1:25:26maybe not as explosive this week. I like
- 1:25:28under 46 and a half. Uh I think the
- 1:25:31Saints offense is in some trouble here.
- 1:25:33>> All right, I have an under two. And this
- 1:25:35goes against everything I I believe in
- 1:25:37the Ravens because I like them a lot. I
- 1:25:38actually bet a a good chunk of change on
- 1:25:41them to win the AFC North this week. On
- 1:25:43Tuesday, we talked about how they were
- 1:25:44even odds. Now they're up to minus 130.
- 1:25:46Um, and I recommend you do the same.
- 1:25:48It's more about Joe Burrow setting us up
- 1:25:50for the next injury and Aaron Rogers
- 1:25:52setting us up for more um unspectacular
- 1:25:54quarterbacking from a 43y old. This that
- 1:25:57said, I'm taking the Ravens under 27 and
- 1:25:59a half. I think everything comes back
- 1:26:01down to earth a little bit, including
- 1:26:03the Ravens offense who might be down to
- 1:26:05receivers. within Flowers plays won't be
- 1:26:08100%. Still a chance. So before last
- 1:26:11week, they had gone over 27 and a half
- 1:26:13points just one time in their last nine
- 1:26:16games, which surprised me even when I
- 1:26:17looked it up and I was looking for this.
- 1:26:19The last four times Henry had three
- 1:26:20rushing touchdowns. Three of them they
- 1:26:22scored under 27 and a half points the
- 1:26:24week after. The last two times the
- 1:26:26Ravens played New Orleans, Saints held
- 1:26:28them to under 28. So I liked what I saw
- 1:26:30out of Brandon Staley's defense, the
- 1:26:32Saints in the second half of that Lions
- 1:26:34game. Ravens win, but score in the low
- 1:26:36to mid 20s. Let's go under 26 and a
- 1:26:40half. All right, Eagles Titans. Now
- 1:26:43we're getting serious here, guys. Seven
- 1:26:46is a line. Philly on the road. 39 a2 is
- 1:26:50the total.
- 1:26:52I don't know what to make of this house.
- 1:26:54I know you have a strong feeling on
- 1:26:55this. What is that strong feeling? My
- 1:26:58strong feeling is to tease this thing
- 1:27:00because I don't trust Philadelphia in
- 1:27:02any way, shape, or form. But I certainly
- 1:27:05trust them more than I trust the Titans.
- 1:27:07That was an absolute debacle. Now, we
- 1:27:09came into week one um pretty heavily uh
- 1:27:13in in invested in the Jets because we
- 1:27:16thought on both sides of the ball the
- 1:27:17Jets had superior talent to uh the
- 1:27:21Titans and the Jets went in there and
- 1:27:23really it was very tidy the way that the
- 1:27:25Jets handled Tennessee. Tennessee looked
- 1:27:27unprepared on both sides of the ball.
- 1:27:29The real handicap to me for the Titans
- 1:27:31is their quarterback. I don't know.
- 1:27:34There's no evidence yet that Cam Ward
- 1:27:35can play quarterback in the NFL. Um, and
- 1:27:39the advanced metrics when you go sort of
- 1:27:40below first tier. The second tier
- 1:27:42numbers are not kind to him in terms of
- 1:27:44hitting open receivers and being
- 1:27:46accurate with the football. So, I'm
- 1:27:49playing this, you know, kind of kind of
- 1:27:51a cowardly way. Eagles minus one. I
- 1:27:54don't like the Eagles by margin under
- 1:27:55any circumstances after I watched that
- 1:27:57offense uh against Washington last week,
- 1:28:00but I'm gonna go ahead and tease the
- 1:28:02total, which is all the way down to 39 a
- 1:28:04half. We go up to 45 a half and I'm
- 1:28:06playing under 45 a half with the Eagles
- 1:28:09to basically win outright on the notion
- 1:28:12that Tennessee still not ready for prime
- 1:28:14time and Eagles with a bad taste in
- 1:28:16their mouth with the way that they um
- 1:28:19you know challenged Washington
- 1:28:21challenged them at home. So that that's
- 1:28:23what I'm doing that teaser.
- 1:28:25>> All right, let me get this out of the
- 1:28:26way because I don't feel great about it.
- 1:28:28I feel so bad about that. I'm making my
- 1:28:30feel great about it.
- 1:28:31>> My 107 pick and my man's best bet,
- 1:28:34Titans on the money line plus 280. Wow.
- 1:28:39>> Look, this is how you do an underdog
- 1:28:41pick here. Uh the Bundo and obviously
- 1:28:44they didn't show us more much last week
- 1:28:45and now they have an Eagles offense that
- 1:28:48really, come on, still doesn't have an
- 1:28:49identity, right? Jaylen Herz though 0
- 1:28:51and2 verse Robert Salah defenses hasn't
- 1:28:54broken 20 points and I expect Jeffrey
- 1:28:56Simmons to exploit that offensive line
- 1:28:59enough times to make this close small
- 1:29:01sample size I know but I have a hunch
- 1:29:03Tennessee plays tough Brian Dable knows
- 1:29:06this Eagles team as well offensive
- 1:29:08coordinator lowscoring game he does know
- 1:29:11worth it in my opinion yes to take the
- 1:29:13underdog with the points and in this
- 1:29:16case to win outright do it Titans come
- 1:29:18on plus 280
- 1:29:20Raheem, come on. Let's gain a game in
- 1:29:22these three.
- 1:29:22>> I'm going I'm going under under 39 and a
- 1:29:25half. If you look at the Titans last
- 1:29:26week, they had 195 yards of offense, 4
- 1:29:30yards per 4.0 yards per play. Only one
- 1:29:34red zone possession. And I don't think
- 1:29:36that any better against this Eagles
- 1:29:37defense. But then if you look at the
- 1:29:39Eagles, they have some issues on the
- 1:29:40offensive line. Land Landon Dickerson is
- 1:29:42out. Like you like you said before,
- 1:29:44Robert Salah has this Philadelphia
- 1:29:47Eagles and Jaylen Hurst number. It's so
- 1:29:49crazy because the the the 49ers, they
- 1:29:52had like a makeshift defensive like unit
- 1:29:55last year and they still held the
- 1:29:57Philadelphia Eagles to 19 points at
- 1:29:59home. So, I don't see this being a
- 1:30:01highscoring game. This might be, you
- 1:30:03know, 20 to 10 or something like that.
- 1:30:05So, I'm going under.
- 1:30:07>> We'll take 20 to 10 as long as the
- 1:30:09Titans are on top. The Bundo the hottest
- 1:30:12take is that the Jets offense might be
- 1:30:14better down to down than the Eagles,
- 1:30:17>> right? It's like not that crazy of a
- 1:30:19take. Now, obviously, Eagles have more
- 1:30:20explosiveness, more downfield threat,
- 1:30:23more home run potential, but you know,
- 1:30:26Dickerson was awful last week. Him
- 1:30:28getting out might be an upgrade for the
- 1:30:29offensive line, but the entire offensive
- 1:30:31line had real issues in run blocking,
- 1:30:34and they weren't able to consistently
- 1:30:35get Barkley going. And they had 10 first
- 1:30:38downs at home against a defense that is
- 1:30:41pretty bad in the secondary. So, I just
- 1:30:42don't really think Philly should be
- 1:30:44priced laying the full seven here. And
- 1:30:46this is the worst bet I'll make probably
- 1:30:48in a while, but every who who's who
- 1:30:50besides us is on the Titans. It's like
- 1:30:51everybody's like, "Yeah, Eagles Eagles
- 1:30:53good. Titans suck again." It's the
- 1:30:55classic narrative. I don't really want
- 1:30:59to lay margin with Philly. Philly won by
- 1:31:01more than seven three times last year.
- 1:31:03It was the Josh Johnson Giants, Josh
- 1:31:06Johnson Commanders. It was the first
- 1:31:08overall pick, Raiders. And it was their
- 1:31:10home game against the Giants when they
- 1:31:11ran all over a bad run defense. I don't
- 1:31:13think Tennessee's run defense is going
- 1:31:15to be that bad forever. And I don't
- 1:31:16think the Eagles run offense is
- 1:31:17consistent enough. So, it's ugly. I
- 1:31:20don't want to have to have discourse
- 1:31:22about Jaylen Herz anymore, but Titans
- 1:31:24plus seven is is a ringer 107 for me.
- 1:31:26>> Yeah, no more discourse. It's
- 1:31:27disgusting. Um, I'm with you.
- 1:31:30>> Disgusting discourse.
- 1:31:32>> I'm with you. All right.
- 1:31:33>> I'm surprised Bill hasn't hopped in the
- 1:31:35chat
- 1:31:36>> and gave us a three team 10point teaser
- 1:31:40because this would be the game. Jags,
- 1:31:42Bucks, Ravens done. Did we hit? Did we
- 1:31:46win with them yesterday? Did Did those
- 1:31:48first two legs all Bills and over? Yeah.
- 1:31:50Every teaser. Yeah. I mean, even if you
- 1:31:51had the Lions,
- 1:31:52>> sports betting were always this easy.
- 1:31:54>> I know. I know. It really was kind of
- 1:31:56perfect.
- 1:31:56>> Offense good. Detroit basically running
- 1:31:58an XFL defense out there. Uh
- 1:32:02>> so,
- 1:32:02>> um speaking of XFL, the Bucks are home
- 1:32:06for the Browns. It's eight and a half
- 1:32:08point favorite. Wow. The Bucks are an
- 1:32:10eight and a half point favorite. The
- 1:32:11total is 41 and a half. Uh Raheem, you
- 1:32:17like that total. It's staring at you
- 1:32:19saying nice things to
- 1:32:20>> Yeah, I just think this is a good buy
- 1:32:21low spot. And if you look at like really
- 1:32:25look at what Tampa did last week, they
- 1:32:27had four turnovers and they still like
- 1:32:30they still scored at will. So, um they
- 1:32:33put up 27 points with four fumbles. And
- 1:32:36I don't think this Browns defense is
- 1:32:38nearly as good as they were in previous
- 1:32:41years. Obviously, you you trade Miles
- 1:32:43Garrett for Jared Verse. And it just
- 1:32:45appears that there's a step back and I
- 1:32:48think Tampa could probably go out there
- 1:32:50and put out, you know, 30 points. I just
- 1:32:53need Deshaawn Watson to do something.
- 1:32:56And that something doesn't necessarily
- 1:32:58have to be scoring touchdowns. Throw
- 1:33:01some interceptions, fumble the ball. I
- 1:33:04think anything that he does in this game
- 1:33:06is going to help the over. So, I think
- 1:33:07it's a good buy by low spot for the
- 1:33:09over. I think I gave this out earlier
- 1:33:11this this week. It was like 40 and a
- 1:33:12half. Now, we're at 41 and a half. And I
- 1:33:14got to remind everybody 41 is key. Uh
- 1:33:18it's a key number on um NFL totals. Um
- 1:33:21it actually it's probably like the most
- 1:33:22common total at this point in time.
- 1:33:24>> 17. Sure.
- 1:33:25>> Yeah. So I I think if you can get a 41,
- 1:33:29that's the best thing that you can do
- 1:33:30because I mean what 41 comes out three
- 1:33:34and a half% of the time. Doesn't seem
- 1:33:36like a lot, but you know that that extra
- 1:33:38hook could kill you, but I like the
- 1:33:39over.
- 1:33:40>> The extra hook will kill you. All right.
- 1:33:42I I like some points in here, too. I'm
- 1:33:44going to put together a little same game
- 1:33:45parlay here. Tampa money line. Baker
- 1:33:48over one and a half touchdown passes.
- 1:33:50Eggbuka 60 plus receiving yards. I don't
- 1:33:52want to f with the spread cuz Tampa
- 1:33:54doesn't show any interest in covering
- 1:33:55ever. What is that number, Raheem? How
- 1:33:58many games in a row?
- 1:33:59>> 10 in a row.
- 1:34:00>> 10 in a row. It feels like 25. But
- 1:34:03>> it's been like almost like almost a
- 1:34:05year.
- 1:34:06>> Yeah, it's a long time. And by the way,
- 1:34:08Baker really should be the Browns
- 1:34:10quarterback right now. If that
- 1:34:11organization was smart, uh, on the other
- 1:34:13hand, he should really never stop
- 1:34:15thanking them for letting him go. So, he
- 1:34:17will thank them this week by securing a
- 1:34:19victory number one. He will throw for
- 1:34:21multiple touchdowns and connect with
- 1:34:22Ibuka number three for 60 plus yards. He
- 1:34:25uh Ibuka had 60 plus last week. He did
- 1:34:27it a bunch in 2025. Baker's going to
- 1:34:30show off and the Browns will show their
- 1:34:31true colors. The Miles Garrettless
- 1:34:33defense is unimpressive. Bucks Baker two
- 1:34:37plus TDs and Ibuka 60 plus yards. It's
- 1:34:40an SGP that pays plus 267. Get in, get
- 1:34:43out. The Bundo and House, you like
- 1:34:46Tampa, but only really on a teaser like
- 1:34:48that. You're going to tease. You're
- 1:34:50going to tease the teaser right now. I'm
- 1:34:53also using them in Survivor. Oh, God
- 1:34:56bless you.
- 1:34:57>> It's a perfectly sound play. This is the
- 1:34:59last Deshun Watson game. I don't know
- 1:35:00what you're supposed to pour out to
- 1:35:02celebrate it or or to memorialize it.
- 1:35:05>> Not throw it at Denzel Boston late in
- 1:35:07the game.
- 1:35:07>> Maybe maybe celebrate's the wrong word,
- 1:35:09but uh you have to have some kind of
- 1:35:12action on this game. I'm only
- 1:35:14comfortable with a teaser leg. There are
- 1:35:16some great teaser leg options out there
- 1:35:18up in around Robin Tampa probably with
- 1:35:21like the Jaguars um up to eight and a
- 1:35:24half points. Probably with the Falcons
- 1:35:26up to eight and a half points and then
- 1:35:29maybe um tease the Rams down from seven
- 1:35:31and a half to one and a half. But Tampa
- 1:35:32is going to be a teaser leg for sure. I
- 1:35:34have to have action against Deshun
- 1:35:36Watson this week.
- 1:35:38>> All right, you have to and you will.
- 1:35:40>> Let's move on. San Francisco hosting the
- 1:35:43Dolphins. I mean, there's the least
- 1:35:44amount to be said about this game. The
- 1:35:46Dolph the Ners have not gotten the two
- 1:35:48touchdowns yet. It's 13 and a half and
- 1:35:5145
- 1:35:52and a half. Listen, a lot of these NFL
- 1:35:55rosters are are pretty even. And then,
- 1:35:57you know, whatever. If a team wins by
- 1:35:59seven, loses by seven, maybe they lose
- 1:36:00by 14. It was a fluky thing. These
- 1:36:02rosters are not even. The only case you
- 1:36:04can make for the Dolphins is that
- 1:36:07they're not rested, this 49ers team.
- 1:36:10They're coming back if you believe in
- 1:36:11it. But and I do believe in it. I'm
- 1:36:14taking the Dolphins plus 13 and a half.
- 1:36:16How absolutely stupid am I to take them
- 1:36:18as one of my 107 picks? I'll wait for a
- 1:36:21reaction. No, look, my basic reasoning
- 1:36:23is that Kyle Shanahan played for the win
- 1:36:25last week versus the Rams as much as any
- 1:36:28other head coach could want a victory.
- 1:36:30And I can't see the 49ers keeping that
- 1:36:32kind of motion against the Hless
- 1:36:34Dolphins. History shows they don't get
- 1:36:36up for games after most wins. They're
- 1:36:39five and 14 against the spread following
- 1:36:41a win under Shanahan. And this line
- 1:36:43moved three points from the look ahead.
- 1:36:46I know the talent disparity is
- 1:36:47laughable, but I also think Malik Willis
- 1:36:49can keep this one close. He wasn't that
- 1:36:51bad last week. It really wasn't. 49ers
- 1:36:54get in and out. They try not to, for
- 1:36:56God's sakes, load up on injur in uh
- 1:36:58injuries. Is that the word? They seem to
- 1:37:00lose like three players a game. 2414
- 1:37:03would be a fine win for the 49ers this
- 1:37:06week. Give me a 13 and a half point
- 1:37:08cushion. I'll hold my breath for three
- 1:37:09hours. House, you got I'm looking at
- 1:37:11your 107 picks and they're all set to
- 1:37:14ear.
- 1:37:14>> This is beautiful.
- 1:37:16>> You're on Tennessee, Miami, Indie,
- 1:37:19>> and the team the favorite that nobody
- 1:37:21wants to bet, which is Green Bay. This
- 1:37:22is a great card from
- 1:37:24the cousin. Yeah,
- 1:37:26>> he's either, you know, three and two
- 1:37:28three and two week for S. But one of the
- 1:37:30two will be the dumbest bet he's ever
- 1:37:32made.
- 1:37:32>> It could be like one of Tennessee or
- 1:37:34Miami is losing by 50. I'm worried that
- 1:37:37that that it's a kidney stone fever
- 1:37:39dream that car. Oh my god.
- 1:37:42>> My goal is to not have to watch in the
- 1:37:44fourth quarter. Do something else.
- 1:37:47>> I have the 49ers. I'm playing them in
- 1:37:49the 107. I think that as the season
- 1:37:52continues to progress, we are going to
- 1:37:53see this Dolphins team as like a
- 1:37:5617-point dog to to good teams. And
- 1:37:58anything less than two touchdowns to me.
- 1:38:01The 49ers don't have to lift a finger.
- 1:38:03They can run the exact same game plan.
- 1:38:04they just get they don't have to install
- 1:38:06a a unique offense to to go up against
- 1:38:09this Miami defense. Um, and I do think
- 1:38:12the the return the amount of time I've
- 1:38:15heard it's worse coming back and and
- 1:38:18getting readjusted, but they're playing,
- 1:38:20you know, the Sunday after the the
- 1:38:22whatever near 10 days. So, uh, I have
- 1:38:25them just handling their business.
- 1:38:27They've been decent um, as a double-
- 1:38:29digit favorite over the years, you know,
- 1:38:31slightly to the positive. Uh, I just
- 1:38:34can't have the Dolphins at less than two
- 1:38:36touchdowns and and not step in.
- 1:38:39>> Okay, that's fine. No one's going to
- 1:38:41really chastise you for that pick. Um,
- 1:38:44Giants Rams. We'll go over this on the
- 1:38:46Monday show, but let's hit it a little
- 1:38:48here because it's a Monday night game.
- 1:38:49The Rams are laying seven and a half at
- 1:38:51home. The 0 and1 Rams, the 1 and0 Giants
- 1:38:54come to town. Raheem, in a couple
- 1:38:56minutes, you're going to make this part
- 1:38:57of your teaser. What are your thoughts
- 1:38:58on this game?
- 1:38:59>> Yeah, I I got the Rams on the on the
- 1:39:01teaser. I think the biggest thing is,
- 1:39:02you should know Shawn McVey off of a
- 1:39:04loss is one of the best coaches in NFL
- 1:39:06history. Um, obviously I'm teasing this
- 1:39:09with the Bucks just like everybody else
- 1:39:10in the Ringer 107. Um,
- 1:39:13>> so yeah, I think you got two good legs.
- 1:39:15So hopefully I hit my teaser this week
- 1:39:17cuz last week I split. Kind of pissed me
- 1:39:19off. So it's time to get back.
- 1:39:22>> Well, yeah, I'm going to uh look I'll
- 1:39:24put it on a teaser, too. You're right.
- 1:39:26Um, but I also for this game I like Rams
- 1:39:28minus 9 and a half adjusted. Um, playing
- 1:39:31it both ways. Playing it high and low.
- 1:39:32Going high on the adjusted, going low on
- 1:39:34the teaser. And I'm discounting almost
- 1:39:36everything I saw out of these two teams
- 1:39:39first games in week one. Probably
- 1:39:41because I'm biased and I hate the
- 1:39:42Giants. And I picked the Rams to win the
- 1:39:44Super Bowl. The Rams stupidly planned to
- 1:39:46get to Melbourne 3 minutes before
- 1:39:48kickoff and it showed. Now they have a
- 1:39:50legit 10 days to rest to shake off the
- 1:39:53jet lag. And uh, Giants played an
- 1:39:55absolutely atrocious team who I'm
- 1:39:56ashamed to call mine. couldn't stop the
- 1:39:59same play four times in a row. The boys
- 1:40:01had eight new guys on defense. They're
- 1:40:02not going to see that in the Rams.
- 1:40:04Offensively, we should see a big game,
- 1:40:06big comeback from Stafford, who wasn't
- 1:40:08pressured much and wasn't sacked. And
- 1:40:09the Giants, by the way, didn't pressure
- 1:40:11Dak much last week either. So, Puka,
- 1:40:13Karen Williams, Devonte, the triple
- 1:40:15tight end set. The offense kicks in.
- 1:40:18Sean McVeyy's team starts the track
- 1:40:19meet. I'll say 30 to6 lay the 9 and a
- 1:40:22half and take the adjusted price at plus
- 1:40:25120. Uh, House, what's your thought?
- 1:40:27Yeah, 30 to6 is fine. I don't have a
- 1:40:29strong play on this right now, but my
- 1:40:31inclination is under 47 and a half. The
- 1:40:34pace at which the Giants played against
- 1:40:37Dallas is one sort of factor in this.
- 1:40:40And even if the Rams are able to untract
- 1:40:43on the outside and and get, you know,
- 1:40:45the ball down the field to receivers,
- 1:40:47um, I don't think the Giants can match
- 1:40:49them. So, my lean right now is under 47
- 1:40:52and a half.
- 1:40:53>> There you go. All right, guys. It's
- 1:40:54time. We try to kill time because this
- 1:40:56family meal is killing us. I mean, uh,
- 1:40:59of all the foods that have recalled, I
- 1:41:01think our family meal should be right
- 1:41:02there at the top. RFK Jr. gets a whiff
- 1:41:05of our family meals and there's going to
- 1:41:06be trouble. Let's run the animation
- 1:41:09right now. Look at this. We put it
- 1:41:10together a nice little graphic for our
- 1:41:12family meal. We each pick a touchdown
- 1:41:16scorer and we put them together and we
- 1:41:18make a parlay and it doesn't win. Except
- 1:41:20this week it's going to win. Last week I
- 1:41:23came through with Lamar Jackson plus
- 1:41:25260. I'll take
- 1:41:26>> Was it?
- 1:41:27>> Yes. Positive vibes only. De Bundo. This
- 1:41:30week it's Omaran Hampton and I'm going
- 1:41:33to call this the Continental Breakfast.
- 1:41:35Therefore, brought to you by the Hampton
- 1:41:36in Hampton. One of the few Chargers who
- 1:41:38didn't embarrass himself last week. He
- 1:41:40scored against the Cardinals. That makes
- 1:41:42three regular season games in a row that
- 1:41:45he's found the end zone. Really a
- 1:41:47must-win versus the Raiders. I'm telling
- 1:41:48you right now, if you look at that
- 1:41:50Chargers schedule. So, give me a nice
- 1:41:51cherry Danish and a hard-boiled egg,
- 1:41:54right? That's like a Hampton in classic,
- 1:41:56right house for a for a continental
- 1:41:58breakfast. Anyway, a Marian Hampton to
- 1:42:00score at a modest minus 165. The Bundo,
- 1:42:03good for you. Good on you, George
- 1:42:06Pickkins. You lose with the same guy in
- 1:42:08week one. Probably had his opportunities
- 1:42:10to score if he could catch the ball.
- 1:42:11Hopefully, he catches the ball this week
- 1:42:13because he's going to be open downfield
- 1:42:15against a bad secondary. Give me George
- 1:42:16Pickkins plus 135. All right, Ryan
- 1:42:19Palmer, what do we got?
- 1:42:20>> Yeah, so we're going with Dalton Shaws
- 1:42:22plus 250. I already mentioned the Nico
- 1:42:24Collins injury, but if you look at
- 1:42:26Cincinnati in 2025 against tight ends,
- 1:42:29116 catches, almost 1,500 yards, 16
- 1:42:33receiving touchdowns. So Cincinnati,
- 1:42:35they really do not like to defend tight
- 1:42:38ends. I think D Schultz, he catch
- 1:42:41catches a touchdown this week.
- 1:42:43All right, Joe House.
- 1:42:45>> I'm nervous about double dipping in this
- 1:42:47Houston Cincy game, but I do like
- 1:42:49Houston. Um, what we saw out of them,
- 1:42:51they got to the red zone quite often and
- 1:42:53were successful in the red zone. And
- 1:42:55David McGomery was the beneficiary of
- 1:42:57it. Two rushing touchdowns and a
- 1:42:59receiving touchdown. Love the way that
- 1:43:01they're using him already. Minus 145,
- 1:43:04but in the parlay, a wonderful leg for
- 1:43:06everybody. All right, Montgomery,
- 1:43:09Schultz, Pickicket, Hampton. Put them
- 1:43:11all together. Plus 2417. Hey, that'll
- 1:43:15erase the losses for a year. I think a
- 1:43:17little more, right? Let's do it. Let's
- 1:43:19get that going. Family meal 2417 if you
- 1:43:23put those together. I mentioned 247 as
- 1:43:26the 41 there a minute ago, Raheem, and
- 1:43:28now we're at 2417 again. All right,
- 1:43:31Ringer 107. We've been talking about it
- 1:43:33all show. It's time for our teaser. 107
- 1:43:36is brought to you by FanDuel. Make this
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- 1:43:43picks and boosted teasers every week
- 1:43:45this season. FanDuel is taking off some
- 1:43:47big for these these teasers. Ours
- 1:43:50specifically, my god, we were looking at
- 1:43:52like seven and0 I think to Bundo. If
- 1:43:54Denver had come through,
- 1:43:55>> Denver got eight and a half. We would
- 1:43:57have been seven and0
- 1:43:59cooked.
- 1:44:00>> Yeah, it would have been done. We
- 1:44:01probably wouldn't have even had a show
- 1:44:02today. So, um it's good. It's good that
- 1:44:04that happened. Thank you, Chiefs. All
- 1:44:06right, the Bundo, what's your teaser?
- 1:44:08>> NFC South Classic Bucksus two and a
- 1:44:11half, Falcons plus eight and a half.
- 1:44:12>> Oh my god, just got sick. I just passed
- 1:44:16six kidneys. The NFC South teaser. All
- 1:44:18right. All right. Good for you, Rahee.
- 1:44:20You're only taking one NFC South team on
- 1:44:22yours.
- 1:44:22>> Yeah, I'm going Bucks minus two and a
- 1:44:24half, Rams minus one and a half. I just
- 1:44:27need two big favorites at home to do
- 1:44:30their job. Please do your job.
- 1:44:32>> Do your job.
- 1:44:34Bucks Rams is exactly what uh the Ringer
- 1:44:36NFL show did as well.
- 1:44:38>> Is it really? That's how I got through
- 1:44:40college. Basically bidding teasers from
- 1:44:42like eight and a half to one and a half
- 1:44:43to two and a half right in there. Um I
- 1:44:46didn't really get through college, but
- 1:44:48uh that's that's how I tried to at
- 1:44:49least. All right, House. What's yours?
- 1:44:51>> Yeah, they let's focus on this Eagles
- 1:44:53Titans game. Eagles winning by a point
- 1:44:56and under 45 and a half as the total
- 1:44:58there. Eagles get themselves right at
- 1:45:00least on defense. All right, I'm going
- 1:45:03crazy
- 1:45:04house because the Ringer fantasy guys
- 1:45:06have the same one.
- 1:45:08>> What?
- 1:45:09>> Same exact teaser.
- 1:45:10>> Same.
- 1:45:11>> They need to get out of my text thread.
- 1:45:12>> Yeah. You know what? There there might
- 1:45:14be some collusion going on or maybe some
- 1:45:16pick stealing. I don't know.
- 1:45:18>> It's pick stealing. That's exactly
- 1:45:19right.
- 1:45:20>> Are you stealing from them or you they
- 1:45:22stealing from you? Cuz they are defend.
- 1:45:24>> How dare you?
- 1:45:24>> They're the thieves. If anything,
- 1:45:26>> you think I watch one second of what
- 1:45:28they they do or talk about? They're
- 1:45:30lowquality human beings. I like them,
- 1:45:32but
- 1:45:32>> Oh, I love I mean, I love the guys. Uh,
- 1:45:35all right. No, I'm going Rams minus one
- 1:45:37and a half, Jags plus eight and a half.
- 1:45:39I put together a masterful teaser with
- 1:45:41the Lions, who really should have lost
- 1:45:43last week, and the Bucks, who had to
- 1:45:44fight to get within one score uh last
- 1:45:46week. But that's chef's kiss on a
- 1:45:48teaser, right? When neither team covers,
- 1:45:50right, outright, and you still win this
- 1:45:52week. I talked about the Rams buying
- 1:45:54low, selling real high against the
- 1:45:55Giants. This is from action, though.
- 1:45:57Over the last 48 years, teams plus 500
- 1:46:00to win the Super Bowl or better that
- 1:46:01lost in week one and are 7 and a half
- 1:46:03point favorites are 113 and 21. I'm out
- 1:46:07of breath because there's so many layers
- 1:46:08to that trend, but 84% good enough for
- 1:46:11me for the Rams. And then I'm taking the
- 1:46:13Jags up to eight and a half. I think
- 1:46:14they win outright versus Denver's coming
- 1:46:16off a short week. It's become impossible
- 1:46:18to keep uh Trevor Lawrence offense under
- 1:46:2023 points. That's going to be plenty.
- 1:46:22Getting eight and a half. Rams minus one
- 1:46:23half, Jags plus eight and a half. I'm
- 1:46:25going to try to go 170 on teasers, guys.
- 1:46:27Wish me luck. Wish me a lot of luck uh
- 1:46:29going in. Today's Ringer 107 was brought
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- 1:46:39Play your game. Odds are subject to
- 1:46:42change. I think we're going to have a
- 1:46:43nice graphic up with our Ringer 107
- 1:46:46picks. There it is. Wow. Isn't it
- 1:46:48beautiful? What do you think, Dundo? Can
- 1:46:51you want to make a change?
- 1:46:52>> Looks good to me. I think it looks fine.
- 1:46:54All right, look at the place
- 1:46:57in the Ringer NFL show three and two.
- 1:47:00Simmons House, Cousin S, Raheem Palmer,
- 1:47:02Ringer Fantasy, two and three. At least
- 1:47:04we didn't embarrass ourselves. I feel
- 1:47:06like four teams were like 0 and five or
- 1:47:08one and four last year and then we we
- 1:47:09all just lost interest by
- 1:47:11>> I told I tried to tell everybody we were
- 1:47:13all actively making each other worse.
- 1:47:16>> You got to be really careful about how
- 1:47:18much you blame last year on the
- 1:47:19circumstances. Who cares? Be careful.
- 1:47:23Who cares? I mean, I'm just being honest
- 1:47:24with you. I mean, like,
- 1:47:25>> yeah,
- 1:47:26>> I just think because if you just look at
- 1:47:28the collective records,
- 1:47:30>> I just think nobody could get hot.
- 1:47:32>> So, let's just say S, you go on a hot
- 1:47:34street,
- 1:47:35>> right?
- 1:47:36>> And you go on a hot street and your
- 1:47:40partner is cold, you don't even get the
- 1:47:42benefit from that.
- 1:47:43>> So, it's like,
- 1:47:44>> and that that's what that's all I was
- 1:47:45trying to say.
- 1:47:46>> What happened that's exactly what
- 1:47:47happened with me and the Bund.
- 1:47:48>> No, but I'm just saying that's going to
- 1:47:49like somebody like
- 1:47:50>> he's not wrong. Somebody's always going
- 1:47:52to have a streak to where it's like,
- 1:47:53"All right, I'mma go I'mma go 12 and
- 1:47:57>> I'mma go 12 and three over 15 games."
- 1:47:59>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:48:00>> But it's just like if you splitting it
- 1:48:01with a with a teammate, you're just
- 1:48:03never going to have those runs.
- 1:48:05>> Yeah. And I'll tell you this, uh no
- 1:48:07offense to Bundo, I don't miss our, you
- 1:48:09know, 45 minute Wednesday night chat on
- 1:48:11the phone where uh we we we really
- 1:48:15strategize to go one and four every
- 1:48:16week. So that's
- 1:48:17>> I was yesterday. No wonder you have a
- 1:48:20kidney stone. just calling you just to
- 1:48:22say hi and say, "Hey, who you like this
- 1:48:23week?"
- 1:48:25>> Just for old times.
- 1:48:26>> Listen, I'm I'm I always have the phone
- 1:48:28with me. I probably won't pick up, but I
- 1:48:30always have a
- 1:48:32>> lot. I don't expect to win this week.
- 1:48:35>> What are you talking about?
- 1:48:36>> Just I'm just like week two is just
- 1:48:40always a rough year for me.
- 1:48:43>> That's fair. You can say that
- 1:48:46five winners, Dream. Come on.
- 1:48:48>> I mean, I know I'm the wiseer champion.
- 1:48:50I'm I'm very confident normally, but
- 1:48:52when I tell you five NFL games in week
- 1:48:55two,
- 1:48:55>> I'm just trying to survive.
- 1:48:57>> I'm trying to survive in a
- 1:48:58>> fair enough
- 1:49:00every week is my goal.
- 1:49:02>> There you go. We're trying to survive.
- 1:49:04We're trying to go three and two. We're
- 1:49:05trying all different things. We're the
- 1:49:07Ringer Wise Guys. That does it for an
- 1:49:08episode. Another episode of the Wise
- 1:49:10Guys. Hope you enjoyed week two preview
- 1:49:12for Raheem Palmer, Joe House, and
- 1:49:13Anthony Dundo aka Tony Tokens. I'm Sal
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