Warren Buffet's Life Advice Will Change Your Future (MUST WATCH) — Transcript
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- 0:02[Music]
- 0:08seventy years ago I was in high school
- 0:12almost a third as long as the country
- 0:15has been around and when I was in high
- 0:18school I really only had two things on
- 0:20my mind
- 0:21girls and cars and and I wasn't doing
- 0:25very well with girls so we'll talk about
- 0:26cars but let's just imagine that when we
- 0:30finished I'm gonna let each one of you
- 0:33pick out the car of your choice sounds
- 0:36good doesn't it
- 0:38pick it out any color you name it it'll
- 0:42be tied up with a bow and it'll be at
- 0:44your house tomorrow and you say well
- 0:48what's the catch and the catch is that
- 0:53it's the only car you're going to get in
- 0:54your lifetime now what are you going to
- 0:57do knowing that that's the only car
- 0:59you're ever going to have and you love
- 1:01that car you're going to take care of it
- 1:04like you cannot believe
- 1:06now what I like to suggest you're not
- 1:09going to get only one car in your
- 1:10lifetime but you got to get one body in
- 1:13one mind and that's all you're going to
- 1:15get and that body of mine feels terrific
- 1:19now but it has to last you a lifetime
- 1:23it's the important thing is to decide
- 1:25what is to be able to define which ones
- 1:30you can come to an intelligent decision
- 1:32on and which ones are beyond your
- 1:35capacity to evaluate you don't have to
- 1:37be right about thousands and thousands
- 1:39of thousands of companies you only have
- 1:40to be right about a company couple I met
- 1:42bill gates on July 5th 1991 we arrived
- 1:45Seattle and Bill said you've got to have
- 1:49a computer and I said why and he said
- 1:53well he said you can do your income tax
- 1:55on it I said I don't have any income
- 1:57Berkshire doesn't pay a dividend yeah he
- 1:59said well you can keep track of your
- 2:01portfolio I said I only have one stock I
- 2:04said I did I mean he says it's gonna
- 2:07change everything and I said well will
- 2:10it change whether people chew gum and he
- 2:12said well probably not and I said what
- 2:15will change what kind of gum they'd show
- 2:18and I said well then I'll stick a
- 2:19chewing gum and you stick to computers
- 2:21how bad I don't have to understand all
- 2:25kinds of but there's all kinds of
- 2:26business I don't understand but there's
- 2:28thousands of opportunities there I
- 2:30didn't understand the Bank of America
- 2:31you know and and I'll be able to do that
- 2:37I'm able to understand some given
- 2:41percentage but Ted Williams wrote a book
- 2:44called the science of hitting and in
- 2:46science of hitting he's got a diagram it
- 2:48shows him at the plate and he's got the
- 2:50strike zone divided in the seventy-seven
- 2:53squares each the size of a baseball and
- 2:56he says if I only swing it pitches in my
- 2:59sweet zone which he shows there and he
- 3:01has what his batting average would be
- 3:02which is 400 if he had to swing at low
- 3:05outside pitches but still in the in the
- 3:07strike zone
- 3:08his average would be 230 he said the
- 3:10most important thing in hitting is
- 3:12waiting for the right pitch now he was
- 3:14at a disadvantage because if the count
- 3:16was oh and two or one and two or so on
- 3:18even if that ball was down where he was
- 3:20only going about 230 he had to swing at
- 3:22it in investing
- 3:24there's no called strikes people can
- 3:26throw Microsoft that man you know you
- 3:28name it any any stock General Motors
- 3:31and I don't have to swing and nobody's
- 3:34gonna call me out on call strikes I
- 3:36only get a strike called if I swing at a
- 3:39pitch and miss so I can wait there and
- 3:41look at thousands of companies day after
- 3:43day and only when I see something I
- 3:46understand and when I like the price of
- 3:48which is selling then if I swing if I if
- 3:50I had it fine if I miss it that's it's
- 3:53it's a strike but it's an enormous ly
- 3:55advantageous game and it's a terrible
- 3:57mistake to think you have to have an
- 3:59opinion on everything you only have to
- 4:01have an opinion on a few things in fact
- 4:04I've told students if when they got out
- 4:06of school they got a punch card with 20
- 4:09punches on it and that's all the
- 4:11investment decisions they got to make in
- 4:13their entire life they would get very
- 4:15rich because they would think very hard
- 4:17about each one and you don't need 20
- 4:19right decisions to get very rich you
- 4:21know four or five will probably do it
- 4:23over time so I don't worry too much
- 4:27about the things I don't understand it
- 4:29if you understand some of these
- 4:31businesses that are coming along and can
- 4:34spot things on if you can spot on Amazon
- 4:36for example I mean it's a tremendous
- 4:38accomplishment what Jeff Bezos has done
- 4:40and I tip my hat to me is a wonderful
- 4:42businessman he's a good guy too but
- 4:45could I have anticipated that he would
- 4:48be the success and ten others wouldn't
- 4:50be I'm not good enough to do that but I
- 4:52don't fortunately I don't have to you
- 4:54know I don't have to form an opinion on
- 4:56on Amazon and I did I did form an
- 4:59opinion on the Bank of America and I
- 5:01form an opinion on coca-cola
- 5:03I mean coca-cola has been around since
- 5:051886 there's 1.8 billion
- 5:091.8 billion 8 ounce servings of
- 5:12coca-cola products sold every day now if
- 5:15you take one penny and get one penny
- 5:18extra that's 18 million dollars a day
- 5:20and 18 million times 365 is 7 billion 3
- 5:25less 730 billion or 6 billion 570
- 5:29million dollars so annually 6 billion
- 5:32570 million dollars from one penny do
- 5:34you think coca-cola is worth a penny
- 5:35more than you know Jo's Cola I think so
- 5:38so you know and I've got about 127 years
- 5:42of history indicated so those are the
- 5:45kind
- 5:45citizens I like to make and you may have
- 5:49an entirely different field of expertise
- 5:51then I would have and probably much more
- 5:54up to date in terms of the kind of
- 5:56businesses that we're seeing about and
- 5:57you can get very rich if you just
- 5:59understand a few of them and understand
- 6:02their future what is it that you to
- 6:04share what makes this friendship so
- 6:08satisfying for both of you well I think
- 6:10we both certainly share a curiosity
- 6:12about the world and we come from two
- 6:16different but related worlds so we had
- 6:19probably spent about 10 hours of this
- 6:22one-hour visit that bill was scheduled
- 6:23on July 5th 1991 his mother had to talk
- 6:26attend to it and we weren't halfway I
- 6:30mean we've got no place in terms of our
- 6:32eventual agenda just in that time in
- 6:34fact the governor of Washington came by
- 6:36and bills that had to come into the
- 6:38bedroom well we have fun to start with I
- 6:45mean that every relationship should have
- 6:48a lot of fun in it and and we we find
- 6:51the world in just such an interesting
- 6:53place so we like to compare notes on it
- 6:55when we compare notes we have a lot of
- 6:57fun doing it part of the time as I
- 6:59remember the conversation by the way
- 7:00there's a remarkable documentary about
- 7:02Lauren which is on HBO I think it
- 7:05premieres on Monday 30th on Monday you
- 7:09should take time to take a look at it
- 7:11bills involved in that and and you will
- 7:13see in a sense its call I think becoming
- 7:15more Buffett yeah that's what it's
- 7:16called because so be 86 years you're
- 7:24doing well on it though well so far yeah
- 7:25that's yet to come
- 7:27yeah one of the things that happened in
- 7:29I bill was it I guess your dad at the
- 7:31dinner said you know what does it use
- 7:34what's been the most important quality
- 7:35for you and you found out that you and
- 7:37Warren had the same word yeah I think
- 7:41curiosity which Warren mentioned is a an
- 7:47amazing thing where you try and predict
- 7:50what's going to happen and then when it
- 7:52doesn't you sort of think well you know
- 7:55that drug didn't get invented that stock
- 7:59could go up that approach wasn't popular
- 8:02what's what is it about my model of the
- 8:05world that's wrong
- 8:07you know who could I talk to what could
- 8:08I read and and the things that have
- 8:11happened since 1991 mostly good things
- 8:15have been amazing and just you know so
- 8:17much fun to talk about you know so you
- 8:22know it we read the news and we think
- 8:24god what did warren think about that you
- 8:25both are readers you both you read all
- 8:27time all day warren bill you're a reader
- 8:31you also do a lot of sort of courses
- 8:34online as well what does that have done
- 8:37what is that done for your life a sense
- 8:38of constantly learning
- 8:40well glad bill it's an incredible time
- 8:44to be a learner I remember when I was
- 8:46young and I had the World Book which is
- 8:48one of Warren's products and it was very
- 8:51good but yeah I always felt like god I
- 8:54want to get into this more depth I
- 8:56wonder if kind of better today the
- 8:58videos that are online and the courses
- 9:01that you can buy with the very best
- 9:03professors it's phenomenal
- 9:06you know take a subject like weather or
- 9:09climate change or what's going on in
- 9:12economics what's known what's not known
- 9:15now with the foundation a lot of what I
- 9:17need to learn it's about biology making
- 9:19vaccines and what's going on with these
- 9:22these various diseases this is a
- 9:25phenomenal time to be a curious person
- 9:28the information that's out there you
- 9:30know I my my biggest problem is that I
- 9:33stay up too late because I'm reading and
- 9:34then I'm a little bit tired the next day
- 9:36the other thing that you share other
- 9:39than reading is optimism you believe in
- 9:43America absolument you know you have
- 9:45said to me more than once I would give
- 9:48up a year of my life just to know what
- 9:50the next fifty is gonna be like yeah
- 9:52even like for now I mean
- 9:57why'd you pick for number that came to
- 10:01me fascinating what's happened just in
- 10:08my lifetime
- 10:09you know 86 years I I should mention one
- 10:11thing about reading it was at the
- 10:14library here at Columbia which I spent
- 10:17probably more time than any other
- 10:19student
- 10:21I lived there practically but and I
- 10:24pulled the book out there happen to be
- 10:26who's in America and it told me
- 10:28something about my professor Benjamin
- 10:29where I am and then I looked up and I
- 10:31went to the library and I said I want to
- 10:32look more learn more about this because
- 10:33I learned this over here that changed my
- 10:36whole life you know
- 10:37we owned I go now because of that
- 10:40library and directing me there's some
- 10:43other book and then following through on
- 10:45that it's the chance I I read about
- 10:49one-fifth the pace the bill does but I
- 10:52still spend five or six hours a day
- 10:53reading I mean it just you can learn so
- 10:55much I particularly loved biography just
- 10:57you know to be able to live the lives of
- 11:01these people have been extorted seem so
- 11:04extraordinary the lessons and those you
- 11:06know the discouragements they face just
- 11:08everything about it so I did you can't
- 11:10get enough of reading what surprised you
- 11:12most about bill that's an interesting
- 11:17question I guess what really surprised
- 11:19me initially we just found so many
- 11:22things to connect on he did try to sell
- 11:25me a computer that way that's probably
- 11:30the only sale he didn't make all that
- 11:31computer changed my life for the better
- 11:33in a big way subsequently but well he he
- 11:38just had the same curiosity and the
- 11:41other word you have used his focus well
- 11:43the focus there's no question if I mean
- 11:44he both of us got to where we are in a
- 11:47big big way because of focus and Bill
- 11:49what surprised you about Lauren I was so
- 11:54amazed that he comes to investing with
- 11:58this broad model of the world so one of
- 12:01the first questions he asked me was a
- 12:03Microsoft's a small company IBM says
- 12:05company why can you do better why can't
- 12:08they
- 12:09beat you at the software game airplane
- 12:12and I always you know you know every day
- 12:15I was thinking about okay what advantage
- 12:18do we have what do we do but nobody ever
- 12:20asked me that question and we talked
- 12:22about the economics of software which is
- 12:24a very different and special thing and
- 12:27he could relate it to things that he'd
- 12:29seen and you know I didn't understand
- 12:31banking why some get ahead and some
- 12:33don't and so he was able to put that in
- 12:34very clear terms and so I I found
- 12:38somebody whose model was rich enough
- 12:41that it helped me understand things that
- 12:43I really wanted to know and we could
- 12:45laugh about things that were surprised
- 12:48to us I'd say his humility in this sense
- 12:51of humor really stood out in this
- 12:54incredible way I mean he enjoys what he
- 12:57does and he shares that with other
- 12:58people and even you know when I ask
- 13:01questions that are pretty naive that
- 13:03he's probably been asked 15 times he's
- 13:05very nice about well it took me a long
- 13:07time to figure this out bill but here's
- 13:09how it works
- 13:10I tried bill out with some
- 13:13non-transitive dice and I'd read about
- 13:16him in Scientific American or some
- 13:17places there were only two people in the
- 13:19world in the history of these dice that
- 13:21actually figured it out while I was
- 13:22trying to take their money from them and
- 13:24one was the leading symbolical audition
- 13:26in the world and the other was a drunk
- 13:28who didn't really know any better
- 13:29that's the one question but bill said
- 13:31wait a second you choose first and the
- 13:33game was over and you taught him not you
- 13:37didn't teach him but you brought him
- 13:39into a great appreciation of bridge yeah
- 13:42he played bridge but the family is very
- 13:44big on games his family was very very
- 13:46big on games and and and so we we played
- 13:50bridge together and we played in China
- 13:51going down rivers we're supposed to be
- 13:53looking at the scene we had a good time
- 13:56yeah all right we've got a lot of
- 13:58questions won't talk from the audience
- 13:59somebody we want to start up ending up
- 14:01in the balcony so we so you know we
- 14:03haven't forgotten you it's hard to see
- 14:06but is there a number there that has a
- 14:08question okay start it wherever it is
- 14:12yes number six
- 14:18thank both of you guys for being here
- 14:20today my question is in regards to
- 14:23public health and vaccinations given our
- 14:27current private presidents publicly
- 14:29stated stance against the use of action
- 14:31Nations both in this country and abroad
- 14:33how would you recommend that we as
- 14:35students and future leaders in health
- 14:37sciences best allocate our resources to
- 14:39most effectively resist his alternative
- 14:42fact political philosophy in regards to
- 14:44domestic and global public health thank
- 14:46you but bill that's a good place to
- 14:49start yeah well the facts about vaccines
- 14:55are very clear and very strong which is
- 14:58both that they're safe and that the
- 15:00vaccine schedule has been designed to
- 15:03reduce disease and you know the more
- 15:07parents that adhere to it
- 15:09the more not only their children be
- 15:10protected but you have some kids who are
- 15:13immune deficient so unless the kids
- 15:15around them are protected then it puts
- 15:18those kids at risk and there are
- 15:19diseases like measles or pertussis that
- 15:22all it takes is a small cluster and then
- 15:24mostly those diseases would be coming in
- 15:27from overseas but you can get infection
- 15:29in in some European countries you've had
- 15:32deaths because the kids weren't
- 15:34vaccinated I don't think the US
- 15:36government is going to come out with any
- 15:38negative statements there may be a
- 15:40commission and fortunately if you look
- 15:43at the facts the facts are quite
- 15:45unequivocal we certainly are speaking
- 15:47out in favor of vaccines so I I you know
- 15:52I'm a little surprised that we have to
- 15:53stick up for them but it's true in every
- 15:55country that you get these rumors and
- 15:58particularly in today's media those
- 16:00rumors can get out and ahead of the
- 16:03facts because the rumors are sort of
- 16:04more salacious or you know contrary to
- 16:08what you've been told type things here
- 16:11I'm sure we'll have a chance if
- 16:12necessary to go through the facts again
- 16:15and and get a clear positive message
- 16:17from the government and the risk is if
- 16:19vaccines somehow people are scared of
- 16:21having vaccines the risk is well there
- 16:24we're engaged right now in polio
- 16:27eradication and the only way that
- 16:30succeeds is to get 95% of the kids to
- 16:32have these vaccines and there we found
- 16:35we ran into a form of anti vaccine
- 16:38sentiment that even worse than us rumors
- 16:42and that is that two terrorist groups
- 16:44one in Nigeria Boko Haram and another
- 16:47one in Pakistan Afghanistan Natale bond
- 16:50said that vaccination was a u.s. plot
- 16:53and you know would sterilize women and
- 16:56it was a very bad thing and they took
- 17:00the women who are going out to the
- 17:02children's houses and giving these oral
- 17:04drops oral polio vaccine and actually
- 17:06killed a number of them and so those
- 17:09negative rumors the only reason we still
- 17:11have polio today that were not done is
- 17:13because of that part of Nigeria that
- 17:16Bokke roms caused unrest in the border
- 17:19areas including Baluchistan in Pakistan
- 17:23where there have been these anti vaccine
- 17:25sentiments so you know our risk is is
- 17:28simply those negative things so it's not
- 17:30just in rich countries that we run into
- 17:33this it absolutely is
- 17:36causes deaths if parents don't know
- 17:38bring your kids in and get them fully
- 17:41vaccinated and your drive to eradicate
- 17:43polio is to show that you can't do it
- 17:45well it'll be it started in 1988 when it
- 17:49already had been eradicated in the
- 17:52Americas so these were the for the u.s.
- 17:54in the 60s the rest of the Americas and
- 17:57the 70s showed that it could be done and
- 17:59so in 1988 well before our foundation
- 18:02was involved rotary and a number of
- 18:05other organizations said let's get rid
- 18:07of this and it's been harder than what's
- 18:10expected just because of these these
- 18:13sentiments you know here we are in 2016
- 18:15a 17 last year less than 50 cases so we
- 18:18are very very close in fact there are so
- 18:21few cases now the way that we track
- 18:23where the virus is is we go and look at
- 18:26sewage samples and we see because a lot
- 18:28of kids get infected and pass along
- 18:31without getting paralyzed and so it's
- 18:34only through the sewage samples we know
- 18:35that there's still about four places in
- 18:37Pakistan and Afghanistan and and one
- 18:40place in Nigeria that we we have gotten
- 18:43there yet all right let's see the next
- 18:44question I got to see a car number one
- 18:49thank you both so much for being here my
- 18:51question again sorry is a little bit on
- 18:54the political spectrum I was wondering
- 18:55what you're both most hopeful about in
- 18:57this new political environments we have
- 18:59and also what you're both most worried
- 19:00about you want to take hope of worried
- 19:03more well I'm I'm confident there
- 19:08America will move ahead it's been no the
- 19:13time I was born until now the real GDP
- 19:18per capita this country was one of six
- 19:20for one I mean nobody ever dreamt that
- 19:22would be possible and when you look at
- 19:25what's happened in this country over two
- 19:26hundred and forty years you know it's an
- 19:29absolute miracle when I went to come be
- 19:31a business school September 1951 woman
- 19:34in the class I mean that this country
- 19:36moves forward and you can't stop it so
- 19:40I'm enormous Lee I say the luckiest
- 19:43person or in the history of the world
- 19:44was the baby being born today in this
- 19:46country and we will go and you know
- 19:49everybody half the country always is
- 19:51going to be able to somewhat unhappy
- 19:52close to half about the last election
- 19:55but I grew up in a household in the late
- 20:001930s my dad was very Republican my
- 20:03sisters and I didn't get dessert unless
- 20:05we said something bad about Roosevelt I
- 20:07mean it was just it was required and I
- 20:11heard all these apocalyptic views about
- 20:14after his third term don't be no more
- 20:16elections I've been hearing that all my
- 20:18life and you know year after year after
- 20:21year with occasional hiccups and and an
- 20:23occasional seizure like we got in 2008
- 20:26at nine but this country
- 20:28it's all profit folks I mean you know
- 20:30when I came in just thinking what it
- 20:32would've been like in 1776 nothing here
- 20:34and now we've been the velocity of
- 20:36change oh yes moving I mean guys like
- 20:38Bill you know they don't quit you know I
- 20:41mean he he moves on to something like
- 20:44polio he mentions 50 cases in the world
- 20:46there were more than 50 in the ward
- 20:49where I went when I was a teenager to
- 20:51see a friend of my sisters
- 20:53and they're all in these rocking
- 20:54machines and everything they were
- 20:55destined to a terrible terrible life and
- 20:59it was just one ward in Omaha and and
- 21:01now that's you know that's the yearly
- 21:03total thanks
- 21:04initially the as well as currently
- 21:06dubrow tourism but people kept working
- 21:09out this world moves forward and it's
- 21:11been doing I bought my first stock when
- 21:13I was 11 in April in 1942 the Dow was
- 21:16100 you haven't looked it's 20,000
- 21:18something good must have happened and
- 21:22it's gonna keep happening folks bill I
- 21:24know you fear the optimism what about
- 21:25concerns
- 21:26well the optimism is partly that I think
- 21:30American innovation is strong you know
- 21:34support for research is by and large
- 21:36bipartisan and so there its health
- 21:39breakthroughs or even energy
- 21:41breakthroughs I think you know every
- 21:43year that goes by we're going to have
- 21:46more of those things now this
- 21:48administration is new enough we don't
- 21:50know how their budget priorities will
- 21:51come out you know there are things like
- 21:53foreign aid which is a small part of the
- 21:56budget about 30 billion a year but that
- 21:58means the u.s. is the biggest that every
- 22:00time there's new leadership we have to
- 22:02go in and articulate the benefits it's
- 22:05well spent it's not the image that
- 22:08people have in the past and so right now
- 22:10I think there's a lot of intensity to
- 22:13make sure we get that message out and
- 22:16get both in terms of the executive
- 22:18branch and the Congress to maintain
- 22:20amazing things like the president's
- 22:23malaria initiative or PEPFAR which is an
- 22:25HIV thing these things started under
- 22:28President Bush and so our foundations
- 22:30had a great working relationship with
- 22:32Democratic and Republican
- 22:33administrations most people wouldn't
- 22:36realize that US foreign aid as a
- 22:39percentage of the economy which is
- 22:41generally how its measured reached its
- 22:43low point in 1999 under the Clinton
- 22:48administration out I'm not saying as the
- 22:50administration it was a mix of the
- 22:52administration the Congress then during
- 22:56those Bush years it went up fairly
- 22:58substantially now the economy helped
- 23:00with that but these initiatives were
- 23:02really amazing and you know I'm hopeful
- 23:06that maintaining or even growing these
- 23:09initiatives will be a priority when
- 23:11there's a lot of talk about tax cuts and
- 23:13different spending activities and so it
- 23:15is a bit up in the air during these
- 23:19months ahead and you've often made the
- 23:20point that no matter how big the private
- 23:23contributions are sometimes in terms of
- 23:25tiers sheer scale you need a government
- 23:28yeah somebody asked me Bob today
- 23:30you know if PEPFAR which is this aids
- 23:32program was cancelled when private
- 23:35philanthropy make up for
- 23:37well pEPFAR's over five dylaney or that
- 23:39is this one aid program which is a
- 23:42phenomenal thing that's saved over ten
- 23:45million lives that's larger than our
- 23:49foundation which is the largest in the
- 23:53world so there's no possibility the
- 23:55government sector US UK other European
- 23:59donors that's a hundred and thirty
- 24:01billion dollars here in coal that's
- 24:03uplifting these poor countries in health
- 24:06and education and if we lose the
- 24:08consensus around that if people draw
- 24:10inward too much the we will hurt
- 24:14progress and there will be millions of
- 24:16lives lost because of it all right one
- 24:19thing that might be mentioned charlie is
- 24:21that the difference between now and
- 24:25sixty or seventy years ago in the
- 24:27ability of really bright people really
- 24:30innovative really energetic people to
- 24:31get financed to do things is it's just
- 24:33dramatically better than than it was at
- 24:36that time so now if you've got good
- 24:38ideas and there's good ideas right in
- 24:39this crowd and you've got energy it's
- 24:42far easier to get financed to move
- 24:45forward those ideas then you couldn't
- 24:47fifty or sixty years is that because of
- 24:49the internet or crowdsourcing of what is
- 24:51it just lots more capital now and people
- 24:53more optimistic about people were very
- 24:56optimistic but better ways to connect
- 24:58the town and the capital and absolutely
- 25:01it's dramatic willingness to take risk
- 25:05you know the first venture capital stuff
- 25:08is in the 1960s and it's tiny Microsoft
- 25:12when we were taking outside investment
- 25:17we took a
- 25:18and evaluates from twenty million
- 25:20dollars we took a million dollars for 5%
- 25:22of the company
- 25:23I'll do it retroactively you had your
- 25:27chance you had your win we we we never
- 25:30spent the money that is our business was
- 25:33profitable enough we really didn't need
- 25:34to do that but we wanted people on our
- 25:36board to give us advice and there's an
- 25:38episode of Silicon Valley where all
- 25:40these venture capitalists are are
- 25:42courting this guy and that really
- 25:45reminded me of what it was like by that
- 25:47time which was 1984 there were dozens of
- 25:52venture capitalists and that's something
- 25:54that other countries have tried to
- 25:56duplicate they have in small part but
- 25:58not nearly as well this this willingness
- 26:00to take risk I did that if you have a
- 26:02failure it's not a mark of shame that
- 26:04hey what's your next startup gonna be
- 26:06you heard the secret folks he gets his
- 26:08ideas from Silicon Valley be sure yeah
- 26:11all right cards let's see where the
- 26:14cards are okay number three take the
- 26:17cart right there this talked about how
- 26:23you'd able to make a model and it won't
- 26:26accurately predict what happens and on
- 26:29the other side of the coin I was
- 26:30wondering what happens when you create
- 26:31such well-developed predictive
- 26:33technology and what are the
- 26:35ramifications and implications of that
- 26:37outcome well I don't think our
- 26:42predictive technology you know it's
- 26:45gonna be like an Oracle warrants
- 26:47nickname is the Oracle of Omaha but you
- 26:51know the the percentage of times you've
- 26:55converted things like macroeconomics
- 26:56because they involve emotional sentiment
- 27:01you know we're a long ways away from
- 27:03that the biggest modeling thing I'm
- 27:05involved in is a group that models
- 27:07diseases so we look at HIV or
- 27:10tuberculosis and understand okay what do
- 27:13we have to do in terms of diagnosis and
- 27:15drugs to get these things down once we
- 27:18finish polio will go on and our next big
- 27:20challenge which will take decades but I
- 27:23expect will be done in my lifetime is
- 27:25malaria eradication so these models
- 27:28aren't nearly at the point where they
- 27:30can take human sentiment into
- 27:32consideration you know the field of
- 27:34economics a very basic question about
- 27:38what we should have done differently
- 27:39before the financial crisis there really
- 27:43is no consensus whether it's with the
- 27:45public or inside the profession of
- 27:47economists they agree that some of the
- 27:51emergency treatment we did was necessary
- 27:55and important and you know I wish that
- 27:57was was better understood but the in
- 27:59terms of the root causes it's actually a
- 28:02little disconcerting how little our
- 28:05models are understanding explain how
- 28:09that imbalance got so extreme all right
- 28:11well number two didn't you in school
- 28:19here at Columbia and I wanted to ask you
- 28:21were talking about that you love reading
- 28:23I wanted to ask you if you have a
- 28:25particular book that it changed your
- 28:27life like the way you think about things
- 28:29and I also wanted to ask um what is the
- 28:32thing that you I'm admire the most about
- 28:34each other
- 28:35I do bill about Warren and the other way
- 28:37around thank you they sort of touched on
- 28:39the on the second question but going to
- 28:41me when I add to it books though first
- 28:42changed your life well a book did change
- 28:45my life and it was a bio fellow who
- 28:47taught here at Columbia and that
- 28:49Benjamin Graham and I read the book when
- 28:50I was 19
- 28:51called the intelligent investor and I I
- 28:53had been interested in investments since
- 28:56I was maybe seven or eight but I never
- 28:58and I'd read every book in the public
- 29:00home all public library but why do you
- 29:02think you were interested in investing
- 29:03when you were seven or eight
- 29:07because I was too dumb to get interested
- 29:09in for my dad my dad had a very small
- 29:17investment firm and I was just gonna
- 29:18read all the books that he had there
- 29:20waiting to go to lunch or whatever it
- 29:22might be and then I went over the public
- 29:23library in front of all and and it just
- 29:26was a fascinating subject to me and and
- 29:28but I didn't have any I I knew but
- 29:32everybody thought all of that at an
- 29:34early age but what Graham wrote made
- 29:36sense I just happen to pick that book up
- 29:38at a bookstore in Lincoln Nebraska but
- 29:40but to investing per se did is there
- 29:44something about your core competence
- 29:45that made investing the perfect place
- 29:47for you to be yeah I mean I looked it
- 29:54was a question of zeroing out all the
- 29:55other in competencies I was left with
- 29:58one thing I was actually wired in a way
- 30:05that was this would be something I would
- 30:07be good at what so what wired in what
- 30:09way I I can't tell you precisely but I
- 30:12I've got the right temperament for it
- 30:14which is more important than IQ if
- 30:16you've got more than 120 points of IQ so
- 30:19sell the rest of it somebody else you
- 30:21don't need it investments but you do
- 30:22need the right temperament you do it you
- 30:24do have to be able to think for yourself
- 30:26and getting back to you know the earlier
- 30:30question the first question I asked
- 30:32myself when I look at the businesses you
- 30:34know is it important and easy what I
- 30:37couldn't determine about this business
- 30:39and a lot of them don't make it now bill
- 30:42is looking for hard questions that that
- 30:44plagued society and where intellect and
- 30:47money may make a difference they may not
- 30:49for a while and but he's taking on the
- 30:51tough things I take my job is to find
- 30:53easy things I'm looking for one-foot
- 30:55bars to step over you know rather than
- 30:568-foot bars to jump over okay and but
- 30:59that's not irrational if you're if
- 31:01you're looking at the investment
- 31:02universe but reading is key it on the
- 31:06biography on the on the book thing I
- 31:08know I will tell you a wonderful book to
- 31:10read I can tell you a number of
- 31:12intelligent mr. wood obviously if you're
- 31:15in the investment field but Katherine
- 31:17Graham's autobiography
- 31:20there's a Marvel smoking that's
- 31:22absolutely honest told by a incredible
- 31:25woman who had an incredible life and
- 31:27then wrote honestly but and and someone
- 31:30who you knew very well and interested
- 31:32with and and she was a bit reluctant and
- 31:33had to be assured yeah you know that she
- 31:36was afraid of me actually look what
- 31:40makes that book so much it just it is
- 31:44such a broad range of human experience
- 31:47honestly told I mean you couldn't have a
- 31:50nobody in Hollywood could write up you
- 31:53know a scenario that she lived through
- 31:56and and just just see that world develop
- 32:01how she reacted to it every night you
- 32:03can learn so much my partner Charlie
- 32:05Munger just loves Ben Franklin you know
- 32:06I mean he I mean you know it you can
- 32:09learn from other people and and their
- 32:11mistakes and and I find me a biography
- 32:14was my favorite part of the reason you
- 32:15love biographies Barney part of the
- 32:17reason you love biographies where is a
- 32:20card right here just come here I'm
- 32:23having a hard time seeing the card so
- 32:24that right here she where the hands are
- 32:27raised I'm a senior here at the college
- 32:34I'm also getting them scholar my family
- 32:37over here I'd like to ask so what both
- 32:44of you doing Ross a lot of risk and
- 32:46sometimes you have to face the fear of
- 32:48failure with that risk so I'm asking how
- 32:52did you overcome that fear and what
- 32:53steps did you take to do that well I
- 32:57think I was very lucky that when I was
- 33:03in high school the computer was brought
- 33:05in there and I developed a fascination
- 33:08for it and became kind of fanatical
- 33:10about it
- 33:11so that you know I didn't view it as
- 33:14risky I viewed it as this kind of fun
- 33:16hobby even when I went to college which
- 33:19I didn't finish but I spent time up in
- 33:23Cambridge Massachusetts the I wasn't
- 33:28sure that would be my life's work now as
- 33:30the chip came along and made it
- 33:32mainstream
- 33:33it became very obvious that something
- 33:36dramatic was going to happen and so my
- 33:40my passion my hobby and the area I could
- 33:44start this company right at the
- 33:45beginning of the the revolution that
- 33:48coincided in a nice way and I never felt
- 33:50it was risky I you know if Microsoft had
- 33:53failed I didn't have kids or anything I
- 33:57could go back to school and you know
- 34:00finish my degree and you know go get a
- 34:03job somewhere
- 34:04I was very risk-averse in in running the
- 34:09company I always made sure we had enough
- 34:11money in the bank to pay everybody for
- 34:15at least a year if nobody paid us at all
- 34:17because this idea I was hiring people
- 34:20who had kids and families and they were
- 34:23moving to work there and here I was you
- 34:26know 19 20 years old and sort of telling
- 34:29these people I'd be paying their
- 34:30salaries so I I was actually very
- 34:33conservative on a financial point of
- 34:35view and one of the few arguments I had
- 34:38the Steve Ballmer who came in and played
- 34:39a phenomenal role in the success of the
- 34:41company was how many people could he
- 34:44hire because I was trying to be so
- 34:46conservative but I let him go full-speed
- 34:49and you know it turns out our financial
- 34:51success meant that we never had a
- 34:54conflict about that but you know I think
- 34:57it's great to be risk-taking
- 35:00particularly when you're young trying
- 35:02out different things fields that you
- 35:04know aren't very popular that you might
- 35:05enjoy but I never got into a position
- 35:08where I I was taking him actually in any
- 35:11meaningful sense I was taking a big risk
- 35:13coming the risk of you would not to have
- 35:14acted because you felt the train was
- 35:16leaving the station yeah and it was so
- 35:18clear that you know this was gonna
- 35:22happen this was so much fun I mean you
- 35:25know I was a fanatic I didn't believe in
- 35:26weekends I didn't believe in vacation my
- 35:30mom had to negotiate whether I'd come
- 35:32once a week for dinner no matter who the
- 35:35guest was that's right but Warren you
- 35:39have often said you still tap dance to
- 35:41work average you can paint with your own
- 35:43colors
- 35:44yeah I I get I'm just excited about
- 35:49tomorrow in terms of what is gonna
- 35:51happen as I was when I started I was
- 35:52having a lot of fun when I started but
- 35:54I'm having just as much fun now and and
- 35:57I was when I was here at Columbia I had
- 36:00this terrible third I was impossible for
- 36:03me to speak in public I mean I wasn't
- 36:04able to do it I actually read an ad
- 36:06Newark times I went down to midtown
- 36:08signed up for a course gave the guy had
- 36:10checked and then stopped payment on the
- 36:12check I mean it just I just petrified
- 36:13but finally I and actually after you get
- 36:16through here hearing me today maybe
- 36:17you'll wish I'd stayed afraid of public
- 36:19speaking but that's another question
- 36:20then when I got out to all my I finally
- 36:22decided I just had to do it so I gave a
- 36:23guy a hundred dollars in cash and once I
- 36:25borrowed another dollars in cash I jump
- 36:28off the Grand Canyon to get my money's
- 36:30worth so but it change it changed my
- 36:34life but I would say this don't fear
- 36:35failure almost everything that's turned
- 36:37out I got turned down by Harvard - the
- 36:39best thing ever happened
- 36:41among other there's some good things
- 36:42that happened it seemed good at the time
- 36:44don't worry about and don't don't let it
- 36:47eat as you look back just keep going
- 36:49because you're gonna have some things
- 36:50and forget them go forward I want to go
- 36:54to the back of the room right back there
- 36:56wherever number three is hi my name is
- 37:00Matthew man I'm a first year at Columbia
- 37:02Business School both of you had a moment
- 37:05where you went out on your own and I
- 37:07guess my question would be if you were
- 37:10to do it all over again you're in our
- 37:11shoes what industry would that be in
- 37:14where would you start your own business
- 37:16today I do the same thing yeah
- 37:21one thing I'd be a failure than anything
- 37:23else probably no I mean I've had I had
- 37:28fun one is it my 20s my 30s now I'm 86
- 37:30I'm having fun and so I I advise
- 37:33students as much as possible
- 37:35look for the job that you would take if
- 37:37you didn't need a job
- 37:39I mean don't sleep walk through life and
- 37:41don't don't say it's all gonna be great
- 37:43you know I'll do this and I'll do that
- 37:45you know I'm just marking time don't
- 37:47need to be older that I've told people
- 37:49that's like saving up sex for your old
- 37:50age I mean it is not a good idea yeah
- 38:03what are you urging them to do guess
- 38:09what I'm talking about
- 38:10[Laughter]
- 38:15you really want to be doing what you
- 38:18love doing and you can't necessarily
- 38:20find it on your first job right but
- 38:22don't give up before you find it bill
- 38:24you've had the unique experience pick a
- 38:26because if you curiosity because of your
- 38:29involvement in global health to see the
- 38:32impact of a lot of other areas whether
- 38:34it's biomedicine or whether it's you
- 38:38know a whole range of other things other
- 38:40than computer science if you were gonna
- 38:43drop out of Harvard today know which
- 38:47field would you be most likely attracted
- 38:50to well I love the hard sciences and
- 38:54there's some phenomenal things that
- 38:57people will get a chance to be part of
- 38:59I'd still probably pick computer science
- 39:02because the work in artificial
- 39:04intelligence today is that a really
- 39:07profound level you know our ability not
- 39:11just to play games but that is a
- 39:13profound milestone the alphago work that
- 39:16the deep mind people at Google were able
- 39:18to achieve and that kind of technology
- 39:20is and all the leading companies a lot
- 39:22of universities with AI creation of
- 39:26agents the ability to read and
- 39:28understand material it is going to be
- 39:29phenomenal so anything connected with
- 39:32that I think would be an exciting
- 39:34lifetime
- 39:34career I also think in energy we have
- 39:37the imperative to have energy that's
- 39:40reliable cheap and clean and no system
- 39:44available today can provide that whether
- 39:47it's for rich countries or for for poor
- 39:50countries and so the innovations there
- 39:52will be profound and there's many paths
- 39:54that could provide that solution finally
- 39:57I think biology it's the most thrilling
- 40:00time you know we are going to figure out
- 40:05obesity cancer even things that are very
- 40:09hard like depression because the you
- 40:12know the mind is is is even more
- 40:14complicated than other parts of the body
- 40:17I see this through the lens of the
- 40:19disease of the poor the infectious
- 40:21disease where new vaccines new drugs we
- 40:24are moving faster than ever and some of
- 40:27these are platform technologies like DNA
- 40:29vaccines that are gonna give us just
- 40:31that one thing will give us lots and
- 40:32lots of solutions and so working in that
- 40:35space is is phenomenal now I say this
- 40:39you know to my children and you know
- 40:43they they may not want to do hard
- 40:45sciences the the one who's picked wants
- 40:47to counsel patients and and be a doctor
- 40:49and even more than the science piece
- 40:51that relationship with patients is what
- 40:53grabs her so everybody has their own
- 40:55taste but in terms of big impact those
- 40:59three hired science problems would be at
- 41:01the top for me alright next right here
- 41:04right next to number one hello thank you
- 41:10guys for being here also thank you to
- 41:11mr. gates I'm also a good scholar and
- 41:13without your foundation I wouldn't be
- 41:15here
- 41:16many industrial based communities have
- 41:17been severely affected with higher
- 41:19levels of unemployment due to the
- 41:20increasing utilization of automation
- 41:22which ends up displacing workers what do
- 41:25you believe it what do you believe is a
- 41:26possible solution to unemployment
- 41:27arising from automation it's a good
- 41:30question now because there's a lot of
- 41:32talk about globalization and all of that
- 41:34and a lot of other people step forward
- 41:36and and talk about how technology and
- 41:39the impact technology is having on jobs
- 41:41and and the demand for new kinds of
- 41:43skills yeah we were here at 1800 and
- 41:46conducting this
- 41:48and somebody would point out that
- 41:51eventually tractors would come along and
- 41:54and better fertilizer and everything and
- 41:57that 80% of the people are now employed
- 41:59on the farm and in a couple hundred
- 42:01years it's gonna be two or three percent
- 42:03and what are we gonna do with all these
- 42:04people we'll the answer is we release
- 42:06them we Keynes wrote something about it
- 42:09in something called essays on persuasion
- 42:10he wrote in 1930 about what a more
- 42:12prosperous society would become like and
- 42:15he actually postulated that in a hundred
- 42:19years and we're now eighty-seven years
- 42:20away from them that there would be four
- 42:22to eight times as much output per capita
- 42:25and you know he's remarkable but he
- 42:27didn't quite get how it might get
- 42:30distributed but the idea of more output
- 42:32per capita which is what the progress is
- 42:36made on productivity that that should be
- 42:38a harmful beside is crazy I mean the
- 42:40distribution may be a problem but if one
- 42:42person could push a button and turn out
- 42:44everything we turn out now is that good
- 42:46for the world or bad for the world you
- 42:48know you'd have to figure out how to
- 42:49distribute it but but you'd free up all
- 42:52kinds of possibilities for everything
- 42:54else so you every everything should be
- 42:59devoted initially to getting greater
- 43:01productivity but people who fall by the
- 43:04wayside through no fault of their own as
- 43:06the goose lays more golden eggs should
- 43:08still get a chance to participate in
- 43:10that prosperity and that's what we're
- 43:11government comes in right they'll int
- 43:13they add to that yeah the problem of
- 43:17excess is a different problem than a
- 43:19problem of shortage you know if all the
- 43:21tractors and computer stopped working
- 43:23then we would have problems of shortage
- 43:26there and you know we just wouldn't have
- 43:29enough people to to make the output a
- 43:32problem of excess really forced us to
- 43:35look at the individuals affected and
- 43:37take those extra resources and make sure
- 43:39they're directed to them in terms of
- 43:41re-education and incomes policies and
- 43:44the need for labour in terms of smaller
- 43:47class size helping handicapped kids
- 43:50reaching out to the elderly the demand
- 43:52for labour is not at zero if you ever
- 43:55get to that point fine you can shorten
- 43:57the workweek and
- 43:59you'll you'll be just just fine with
- 44:02that and so the this idea of taking an
- 44:05individual who during their generation
- 44:07is affected I think there's a lot to be
- 44:10learned about that a lot of thinking we
- 44:12have to do but the macro picture that it
- 44:14enables is is is an opportunity number
- 44:19two also I'm urging people at the back
- 44:23so you have a chance and we want to go
- 44:25back up to the balcony as well so when I
- 44:28see number six will come to six after
- 44:30two yes
- 44:30hi my name is Sam I go to Columbia
- 44:33College and my question is what steps
- 44:35you think need to be taken in order to
- 44:37improve public education particularly in
- 44:41economically depressed areas of the
- 44:43United States yeah I think this is a
- 44:52super important issue because the
- 44:55dropout rates although they've gone down
- 44:57a little bit they're still very high and
- 45:00and very based on income and even kids
- 45:05graduate a lot of them don't enter
- 45:08college or they do enter college and
- 45:10they end up in these remedial courses
- 45:12for their reading or math capabilities
- 45:15and those people have an extremely high
- 45:17dropout rate from higher education and
- 45:20you know they can incur debt they have a
- 45:22negative experience so we have a long
- 45:26ways to go in education there are some
- 45:28very strong points of light like here in
- 45:31New York City some of the charter
- 45:32schools are with even less resources
- 45:35than schools at large doing a phenomenal
- 45:39job of educating kids there are a lot of
- 45:41countries particularly in Asia who
- 45:45spending way less of their GDP on
- 45:47education are doing a great job
- 45:49educating their kids and it's not just
- 45:52the top 20% their bottom 20% is pretty
- 45:56phenomenal in the case of China South
- 45:58Korea and Singapore and so looking at
- 46:01what we've learned in charter schools in
- 46:03terms of building the culture giving
- 46:05teachers feedback what is good teaching
- 46:08look like do we give teachers a chance
- 46:10to learn from each other about that you
- 46:12know
- 46:12development that makes the subject seem
- 46:15relevant and important there are great
- 46:19teachers but spreading those practices
- 46:22is has been very very tough and so I'd
- 46:25say it's a top priority and we've take
- 46:27our foundation has that for our work in
- 46:30the United States education is is the
- 46:32top priority whereas outside the US we
- 46:35take on health it's a tough problem
- 46:38because the institution of Education are
- 46:40fairly resistant to change and people
- 46:43are not yet convinced by various
- 46:46approaches very easily but we need to
- 46:49keep at it we're gonna you know stay and
- 46:51even actually put even more money into
- 46:53trying to help help create models okay
- 46:57up number six Hey first I wanted to
- 47:02thank well I witnessed I found all of
- 47:04your foundation and eliminating polio in
- 47:06India and I'm really thankful for that
- 47:08my question is more on how to set the
- 47:12basic level of debate in any any public
- 47:14sense like there are many trade-offs how
- 47:17do I explain climate change policy for
- 47:20people who are losing losing jobs in the
- 47:22coal sector how do you balance the
- 47:26current current short-term economic
- 47:28goals with a long term peaceful
- 47:30transition to the renewable sources of
- 47:32energy now it's a good question and the
- 47:37certain topics are so complicated like
- 47:41climate change that to really get a
- 47:45broad understanding is a bit difficult
- 47:48and particularly when people take any of
- 47:50that complexity and trying and create
- 47:52uncertainty about it and you know for
- 47:56example India's kind of paradigm attic
- 47:58in that they want to electrify for all
- 48:01sorts of good reasons having to do with
- 48:03health and reading at night and quality
- 48:06of life and the question of should they
- 48:09delay electrification for climate issues
- 48:14is is going to be very difficult the
- 48:17ideal is to innovate in such a way that
- 48:20they can go full speed ahead on
- 48:21electrification without emitting the co2
- 48:24that a the
- 48:26natural path them today which is coal is
- 48:28the way to go in so we have a lot of
- 48:31cost reduction to do because rich
- 48:35countries may be able to buy premium
- 48:36electricity when you get to middle
- 48:39income or lor that's just just not going
- 48:41to happen and you know democracy has
- 48:45this allocate these resources in terms
- 48:47of investing in the future and things
- 48:49like research and investing in in the
- 48:53present and when you have a problem like
- 48:55the financial crisis then you do get a
- 48:58little bit of more of short-term
- 49:00thinking and I'm hopeful I think it's
- 49:03better for the world and for the country
- 49:05if we can get back into a little bit
- 49:09more of a focus on the long term we have
- 49:12some questions from Facebook one a
- 49:14central tenant of your investing is
- 49:16invest for the long term and this comes
- 49:18from Brian white who says how my bill
- 49:20and warrant convince investors to think
- 49:22beyond short-term returns to encourage
- 49:25world-changing innovation well I've
- 49:30spent my life trying to convince people
- 49:32on investing for the long term and
- 49:35listen if I know how to double my money
- 49:36tomorrow I probably and those with the
- 49:38short term - it's much it's much easier
- 49:43to invest for the long term if you're
- 49:46just talking pure and that's not because
- 49:47you know what's going dead and I my view
- 49:50be very high probably what's going to
- 49:52happen 10 and 20 years from now in a
- 49:55major way and I don't have the faintest
- 49:57idea what's going to happen tomorrow or
- 49:59next week but you get if you're talking
- 50:03about societal it's very tough because
- 50:07politicians face elections either every
- 50:10two years or six years and the way the
- 50:13way bridging like congressional
- 50:15districts have been organized primaries
- 50:17have become more and more important and
- 50:19so it's very hard to have politicians
- 50:24think of something that's wonderful for
- 50:26the country for 20 years but will cost
- 50:27them the election two years from now and
- 50:30that that's a basic problem and a
- 50:31democracy and it gets to be more of a
- 50:32problem as as we get arraigned we've
- 50:37arranged congressional districts so the
- 50:39primary
- 50:39dominates because a very limited number
- 50:42of people turn out on their motive tend
- 50:44to be on the extremes of both parties so
- 50:45it it's not easy
- 50:47whether you're gonna make an investment
- 50:49in a company or whether you're gonna buy
- 50:51the company now what are the factors
- 50:53that you have to be that you're looking
- 50:56for what test
- 50:57I'm looking for durable competitive
- 50:59advantage I'm looking for something that
- 51:01has a moat around it for a considerable
- 51:03period of time and I'm looking for an
- 51:05honest and able management Toronto
- 51:08because I don't know how to run it
- 51:09myself and I'm looking for a purchase
- 51:11price that's not excessive but it's
- 51:13better to pay a little too much for
- 51:14something that's a very good business
- 51:16than it is to buy some bargain but
- 51:19believing a company but not much of a
- 51:21future and I don't know I don't have a
- 51:25ability to predict with a higher high
- 51:28probability of success the future of
- 51:30most companies so I'm looking for the
- 51:32exception but the nice thing is if
- 51:34there's thousands of companies out there
- 51:35and we don't have to be right on a
- 51:37couple I mean it's exactly the opposite
- 51:40of baseball where you have called
- 51:42strikes and the pitchers trying to throw
- 51:44it to it the worst part of the strike
- 51:45zone for you and if he succeeds in
- 51:49getting into that corner two three times
- 51:50and you don't swing you're out and and
- 51:52investing it's a no it's a no cold
- 51:54strike things I can sit there all day
- 51:55and somebody can throw me one company
- 51:57after another and finally I got one of
- 51:59my sweet spot both of you have chosen
- 52:01both wives and partners well charlie
- 52:07munger added what Charlie Munger changed
- 52:10my views are we he'd be find them in a
- 52:13huge way in terms of looking for the
- 52:16quality companies and and and looking
- 52:19further the ability to make an
- 52:21investment that would work out well for
- 52:23five or ten or twenty years as opposed
- 52:24to something might there might be one I
- 52:26call it cigar butt investing where there
- 52:28was one puff left in the cigar butt the
- 52:30cigar was free so he picked up these
- 52:32disgusting looking things and got one
- 52:33puff out of and went on to another one
- 52:35and that worked okay but it was
- 52:37small-scale and it really doesn't build
- 52:40something satisfying so so he he kept
- 52:43forcing me in the direction of saying
- 52:45you know existed a really a business we
- 52:47want a home for forever
- 52:49and do we want to get a Soviet it's like
- 52:51a marriage I mean you want to get
- 52:52associated with this person forever and
- 52:54it's a great way to look at things build
- 52:57your wife Melinda has added what well
- 53:02she's going for children because she is
- 53:12your partner and she was there in the
- 53:14philanthropy I would say one at
- 53:16Microsoft I had two partners who were
- 53:18amazing I had Paul Allen in early days
- 53:19and then Steve Ballmer's that company
- 53:21got bigger and we would not have
- 53:23achieved anything what we did without
- 53:25those partnerships because you know when
- 53:27things are tough when you're making big
- 53:29decisions having somebody who's really
- 53:31in there with you committed you know for
- 53:35me I I couldn't have done without that
- 53:37for the foundation Melinda is an amazing
- 53:40partner she thinks about the people
- 53:43issues better than I do she you know
- 53:46knows when I get over excited about the
- 53:48science she can you know make sure we're
- 53:51being realistic about it and it makes it
- 53:53fun you know last week I went to Europe
- 53:57to build economic formers she went to
- 53:59Nigeria and then this weekend we just
- 54:00sat and talked about okay what did we
- 54:02see what does that say about the work we
- 54:04should do and so you know I don't think
- 54:07I did enjoy it without a partner and
- 54:10particularly someone amazing like her
- 54:11it's more fun with a partner I mean
- 54:14Charlie and I've had more fun working
- 54:16together than neither one of us would've
- 54:17had individually and we have never had
- 54:19an argument after working together for
- 54:2158 you could talk every day not anymore
- 54:24because we know what the other guy's
- 54:25gonna say we just run we talked it all
- 54:30out 50 years ago so if you see Charlie
- 54:34and he says why am you calling you'd say
- 54:36well I knew what you say anyway right
- 54:42there let's say noir - hi my name is
- 54:47Molly Zanger I'm a student at Barnard
- 54:49College I guess what I'm basically
- 54:52wondering is what your main
- 54:53considerations are when you're choosing
- 54:55where to donate on what causes to donate
- 54:58to you and what the main challenges are
- 55:00that are associated with that yeah I
- 55:03wholesale look because I made a choice
- 55:05that I wanted to have well originally my
- 55:08first wife and I planned that I would
- 55:10pile up and she would unpiloted
- 55:13that was plan number one but she she
- 55:15died in 2004 and then I had the problem
- 55:19of figuring out the best way to
- 55:21distribute book which turned out to be a
- 55:23lot of money and I wanted I wanted some
- 55:27people who had similar values and summer
- 55:30objectives what I have I also wanted
- 55:33people who would pour in intelligence
- 55:34and energy and case of Bill Melinda a
- 55:37lot of their own funds work at a full
- 55:41time but who really saw society as I saw
- 55:44it which is that every life is of equal
- 55:45valuing and that if you start with that
- 55:48and then you figure what you might be
- 55:50good at changing whether it's a medicine
- 55:52or education or early learning or
- 55:55whatever it may be you know that was my
- 55:58answer was the the wholesale and retail
- 56:01philanthropy would drive me crazy but
- 56:03hotel philanthropy everybody like Bill
- 56:08yeah for our work at the foundation the
- 56:12belief in innovation which both Melinda
- 56:17and I saw it
- 56:18Microsoft our question was okay how do
- 56:21we bring that kind of innovation to help
- 56:24the world's poorest and we learned that
- 56:26coming up with new vaccines that
- 56:29although you can pay a lot to have them
- 56:30created the marginal cost comes down to
- 56:33less than $1 so great getting a new
- 56:36vaccine for the main cause of diarrhea
- 56:38or pneumonia that can be a phenomenal
- 56:43thing so you're looking for these super
- 56:44nonlinear dramatic things because as a
- 56:48you know perp or person are compared to
- 56:50government funding philanthropy is
- 56:53actually quite small and yet funding
- 56:56vaccine projects the government isn't as
- 56:59good as that as a philanthropist who
- 57:02assembles a team and over time it's
- 57:04learning how to do that very well and we
- 57:06had models in a Rockefeller Foundation
- 57:09was a phenomenal foundation the Green
- 57:11Revolution is just one of many things
- 57:14that they did which raised agriculture
- 57:16activity and saved avoided hundreds of
- 57:19millions starving and so studying the
- 57:21other foundations that have taken these
- 57:23big breakthroughs and created model out
- 57:26of those that was very informative to
- 57:28the to what we've gone after what's the
- 57:31most important lesson you've learned
- 57:32though about making investments from the
- 57:37foundation today that you learned along
- 57:40the way well I think when we started out
- 57:44I thought that just coming up with a new
- 57:47vaccine or drug alone would be enough
- 57:49and that the world would then take that
- 57:52and get it out to all the children of
- 57:53the world
- 57:55you know partly through field this as I
- 57:58did that Melinda did looking at the
- 58:00statistics that delivery system it
- 58:03doesn't get out to a lot of the kids and
- 58:05so having to figure out how people were
- 58:09hired or how that was funded and
- 58:10measured this what's called primary
- 58:12health care we were drawn into that out
- 58:16of necessity it didn't fit the normal
- 58:18sort of in the lab you know come up with
- 58:21this great concoction and and yet in
- 58:25order to achieve our goals we needed to
- 58:28to think about those delivery pieces in
- 58:30fact sometimes the state of the product
- 58:33actually had to be simpler in some ways
- 58:35in order to get through that very
- 58:38limited delivery capacity and now we're
- 58:41getting to eighty-six percent of the
- 58:42world's children with vaccines it was
- 58:44about 70 percent when we got started so
- 58:47that's good increase we still have have
- 58:4914% to go well about mil good to have
- 58:52amazing convening and persuasive powers
- 58:57as well so I mean they they bring
- 58:59something far more to it than just money
- 59:02I mean they they work incredibly hard as
- 59:05do my three children and our foundations
- 59:07but they work incredibly hard at getting
- 59:11governments involved in vaccines or
- 59:12whatever it may take and that that just
- 59:15is you know it's it's an extra dimension
- 59:18that I think very few people have in the
- 59:21field yeah I mean it's a hands-on it's a
- 59:24travel to when Melinda is in Africa and
- 59:27she's holding a little baby I mean she
- 59:28is actually thinking
- 59:30you know this kid needs to be back that
- 59:32it has a decent chance in education all
- 59:34that I feel the same way about the kid
- 59:36but what I really think is isn't gonna
- 59:38pee on me so I you know there's just a
- 59:42difference in that human touch makes a
- 59:44big difference I'm halfway in between
- 59:46I think he's closer to me my number
- 59:50three and number four first one then
- 59:51three then four me at the Columbia
- 59:56Business School if the current
- 59:57government were to ask for your advice
- 59:59on immigration or health care reform
- 1:00:02what would you recommend to them well
- 1:00:07I'm on immigration
- 1:00:09yeah well immigration I mean this
- 1:00:11country is built on it I would say the
- 1:00:13people that are anti-immigration let's
- 1:00:15put it in retro actively everybody
- 1:00:18leaves this country if you think about
- 1:00:25it I'm little Ferguson before from me
- 1:00:27but we are sitting here in part because
- 1:00:30of two Jewish immigrants who in 1939 in
- 1:00:35August signed the most important letter
- 1:00:36perhaps in the history of the United
- 1:00:38States and you can you can go to the
- 1:00:40internet and go to search Bing and just
- 1:00:52type in Einstein Roosevelt 1939 Leo
- 1:00:55Szilard and Albert Einstein two
- 1:00:57immigrants came here they both they came
- 1:01:01directly from Germany's the Lardon came
- 1:01:03from Hungary before that and they told
- 1:01:05President Roosevelt that the Germans
- 1:01:08were likely to develop an atom bomb
- 1:01:11which was likely to work it's less than
- 1:01:13a full page and we'd better get to work
- 1:01:15on something fast and that the Manhattan
- 1:01:17Project came out of that and have it had
- 1:01:20been for those two immigrants you know
- 1:01:21who knows whether we'd be sitting in
- 1:01:23this room immigration I mean right it's
- 1:01:38this country has been built on the west
- 1:01:42exactly by immigrants and you can take
- 1:01:44them from any country you want and they
- 1:01:46they've come here and they found
- 1:01:48something that unleashed the potential
- 1:01:50that the place where they left did not
- 1:01:52and and we're the product of it let me
- 1:01:55the question also was about health care
- 1:01:57I mean what can you tell us about health
- 1:02:00care that you think is important in
- 1:02:02terms of the consideration of what might
- 1:02:05happen I mean if you were building a
- 1:02:08health care plan for America what would
- 1:02:11be the elements that you would want to
- 1:02:12include well there's no doubt that in
- 1:02:18order to provide decent health care the
- 1:02:21percentage of GDP devoted to it is going
- 1:02:25to go up over time it's already very
- 1:02:27high and yes there's some efficiencies
- 1:02:30to be gained in that you know 18% are so
- 1:02:35number but as society ages as we come up
- 1:02:39with new things like joint replacement
- 1:02:42organ transplant which are going to
- 1:02:43create lots of human benefits we're
- 1:02:46going to have to have more resources
- 1:02:47overall including more government
- 1:02:49resources for health care and so it's a
- 1:02:53tough problem because you have both
- 1:02:54access problems today and you have cost
- 1:02:58problems today and you know I whenever I
- 1:03:03look at a problem I have this one simple
- 1:03:05lens which is those innovation should
- 1:03:07help here but in this case innovation
- 1:03:11while it will provide breakthrough drugs
- 1:03:13that will save costs like if you can
- 1:03:15cure Alzheimer's which we certainly
- 1:03:17haven't done yet that will save on huge
- 1:03:20long-term care costs so we have these
- 1:03:22chronic diseases that we've made less
- 1:03:24progress on then than some of the others
- 1:03:27and you know the market mechanism to get
- 1:03:30Pharma to go after those things and the
- 1:03:33basic research because funds I am quite
- 1:03:35optimistic that we'll have some advances
- 1:03:37but they'll also give us some very
- 1:03:39expensive things that will mean where
- 1:03:42we're spending more money against it and
- 1:03:44I do hope you know that at some point
- 1:03:47that we really are calling on the best
- 1:03:50minds to look at the incentives for the
- 1:03:53breakthroughs the most efficient
- 1:03:56system we have here I think there's a
- 1:03:58lot of unhappiness in the country now
- 1:04:00stems from the fact that the health care
- 1:04:04system isn't delivering and yet you know
- 1:04:07people are saying less government more
- 1:04:09government you know I don't think
- 1:04:11they're being given the depth of
- 1:04:12education about why it's so tough that
- 1:04:15over time will help them vote the depth
- 1:04:21of explanation I mean let me go to
- 1:04:24Facebook in just a moment but where was
- 1:04:26I promised three four and six three is
- 1:04:28there and six is up there so quote three
- 1:04:31six and then we'll go to Facebook hi my
- 1:04:35name is Josh Shaffer and I'm a dental
- 1:04:37resident at Columbia my question is for
- 1:04:40future doctors in genesis of America
- 1:04:43what what advice you have in giving
- 1:04:46about having a proper balance of
- 1:04:48providing that health care but also
- 1:04:50mastering the concepts of Business and
- 1:04:52Economics well I told gowanni
- 1:04:59is you know incredible Walter he in the
- 1:05:03current issue of The New Yorker has a
- 1:05:07the latest in wonderful articles about
- 1:05:11the health care system and he's talking
- 1:05:14about the people who do sort of heroic
- 1:05:16surgery like himself are paid twice as
- 1:05:18much as the the people who are on an
- 1:05:21ongoing basis and a great incremental
- 1:05:23way learning about the patient and and
- 1:05:26seeing what works for them and he it's a
- 1:05:29calling choir to say hey though that
- 1:05:31part of the system needs to be run
- 1:05:33better needs needs more resources and
- 1:05:36you know so I think it's brilliant that
- 1:05:39he's saying that and it also corresponds
- 1:05:41to what what is working in in some other
- 1:05:44countries six
- 1:05:50so you both have invested a great deal
- 1:05:52of money abroad but there is a
- 1:05:54prevailing belief by some that there are
- 1:05:57pressing issues in America there are
- 1:05:58poor people here there are sick people
- 1:06:00here and we should deal with that first
- 1:06:02before even tackling anything abroad so
- 1:06:05what are your thoughts on that my own
- 1:06:08personal thoughts is that every life is
- 1:06:12of equal value and in many ways
- 1:06:21in many ways if you have a little bit
- 1:06:23number of dollars you actually can do
- 1:06:25more for more people outside the United
- 1:06:27States and we do have greater resources
- 1:06:29here for our 320 million people than
- 1:06:32exists around the world for seven
- 1:06:34billion people so if if you you can
- 1:06:38improve the lot of more people by
- 1:06:40intelligently spending a billion dollars
- 1:06:43or any other number in other areas of
- 1:06:45the world actually and then here and I
- 1:06:47get you know I coming from Omaha and
- 1:06:50having the money I have people can say
- 1:06:52well why not spend it all in Omaha you
- 1:06:53know you grew up here and almost done
- 1:06:54all kinds of things for you and I
- 1:06:55absolutely knowledge that but in the end
- 1:06:59if I've got X dollars to spend I can
- 1:07:02make life better for more people if I
- 1:07:04can have it intelligently allocated in
- 1:07:06other parts of the world actually than
- 1:07:08the United States and that draws a fair
- 1:07:10amount of criticism but you know I live
- 1:07:12with it because I read it's what I
- 1:07:13believe in all lives have equal value is
- 1:07:15really the driving force
- 1:07:17I mean I found a I'm an accident I won
- 1:07:20the ovarian artery when I was born in
- 1:07:23the United States in 1930 it was 40 to 1
- 1:07:25against me
- 1:07:25I was male that now it's 80 to 1 against
- 1:07:28being a male in the United States in
- 1:07:301930 I was just plain lucky my life had
- 1:07:33been far different bill always said if
- 1:07:34I'd been born a long time ago I'd have
- 1:07:35been some animals lunch because I can't
- 1:07:37run fast and I can't climb trees and
- 1:07:39everything no and I'd be think I
- 1:07:41allocate capital it wouldn't work and I
- 1:07:47was lucky but a 79 out of the 80 weren't
- 1:07:50as lucky as I was at that time go ahead
- 1:07:53bill yeah in terms of the helping people
- 1:07:56in other countries the foreign a bunch
- 1:07:59of the u.s. is is 0.8 percent of the
- 1:08:04budget and there will be in in the years
- 1:08:07ahead a discussion about is that we're
- 1:08:10doing it saves lives for typically about
- 1:08:13a thousand dollars of life saved and in
- 1:08:16terms of stability and countries
- 1:08:19eventually being self sufficient to meet
- 1:08:23part of the world economy there are some
- 1:08:24some huge benefits to that so if we were
- 1:08:27talking about should we spend 20 or 30
- 1:08:29percent overseas okay you know that
- 1:08:31would be a very interesting discussion
- 1:08:34but what we're trying to preserve is
- 1:08:37something that's gotten smarter and
- 1:08:38smarter all the time as proven benefits
- 1:08:40all of which are things that our
- 1:08:42foundation coin vests invest in the same
- 1:08:44things like like the polio thing is is
- 1:08:470.8 percent so I'm hopeful that in a big
- 1:08:51world that can remain a priority let me
- 1:08:54go to another Facebook question this is
- 1:08:56from Nadia Rockwall says how my bill and
- 1:09:01Lauren encourage innovation particularly
- 1:09:03among teens and young adults how do you
- 1:09:06encourage innovation well I think you
- 1:09:09have a market system to provides rewards
- 1:09:10for it and we have it I mean we we have
- 1:09:15an incubator for innovation in the
- 1:09:17United States and you know Bill can drop
- 1:09:20out of school Andy Grove can come from
- 1:09:23Hungary and I mean this just welcomes it
- 1:09:27and thank God I mean that's why we have
- 1:09:29the kind of prosperity that we have I
- 1:09:31mean the question of how it gets divided
- 1:09:32is a secondary question and that does
- 1:09:34not get solved as well by the market
- 1:09:36system but but our system is just
- 1:09:39designed for then look at what has
- 1:09:41happened all right number one so also I
- 1:09:46want to make sure we get to people the
- 1:09:47back so we don't only have five minutes
- 1:09:48left so there's a couple of hands up in
- 1:09:50the back so please recognize it hi my
- 1:09:54name is ah here I'm a senior in the
- 1:09:55engineering school as men of such great
- 1:09:59influence I'm curious and we touched a
- 1:10:01little bit about this in the last
- 1:10:02question but how you deal with
- 1:10:04reconciling your convictions with maybe
- 1:10:06what is believed by the public maybe
- 1:10:08even a majority considering that you
- 1:10:10have the wealth and power and fame to
- 1:10:12make such great things happen
- 1:10:19either well I don't see you know the the
- 1:10:23convictions I have you know I love
- 1:10:28sharing them and talking to people
- 1:10:30understanding you know where people
- 1:10:32disagree I you know I can be overly
- 1:10:35science centric about things I you know
- 1:10:40there's all sorts of causes that are
- 1:10:43super important that our foundation
- 1:10:46because we have limited resources we
- 1:10:47don't get to go and do there's there's
- 1:10:49lots of diseases there's aspects of
- 1:10:52Education you know part of the strength
- 1:10:55of philanthropy is its diversity and and
- 1:10:58and so just by sharing the fact that
- 1:11:00it's fun it really can have measurable
- 1:11:04impact I hope that sets an example for
- 1:11:06all of philanthropy I don't happen to
- 1:11:09believe that you know my voice should be
- 1:11:11that much louder than other people you
- 1:11:15know so you know some of these big
- 1:11:17political donations you know at least
- 1:11:19you know I and I'm worn as well you know
- 1:11:23we've chosen not to have that be a huge
- 1:11:27way that you know we're spending our
- 1:11:29money that's a personal choice you know
- 1:11:31the monies being saved for not for the
- 1:11:34megaphone but for the the work of the
- 1:11:36foundation we get a podium of a certain
- 1:11:39sort you know and but people do not with
- 1:11:43a partner like Charlie Munger you don't
- 1:11:44have to worry about my use being
- 1:11:46accepted automatically point out the
- 1:11:49shortcomings the the influence of money
- 1:11:51in politics I really think is bad news
- 1:11:53for this country I think citizens united
- 1:11:55was a terrible decision and the idea
- 1:11:59that somebody can for millions and
- 1:12:03millions of dollars into a campaign and
- 1:12:05in certain cases it not even be
- 1:12:06identified I think really kind of goes
- 1:12:09counter to the kind of America I believe
- 1:12:11in the two of you created along with
- 1:12:13blend and others created the Giving
- 1:12:15Pledge how's that going going terrific
- 1:12:20good day Atlanta these kind of a little
- 1:12:24color it is exactly yeah okay this is
- 1:12:26you know we love philanthropy of all
- 1:12:28types
- 1:12:30and part of the strength of American
- 1:12:31clamp is actually people with very
- 1:12:33little who are incredibly generous here
- 1:12:36though we said for the people who are
- 1:12:38super lucky have over a billion dollars
- 1:12:41we want a group who are working together
- 1:12:44who are committed to give the majority
- 1:12:46their wealth away to learn from each
- 1:12:49other what's worked what hasn't work how
- 1:12:52do you involve your kids how do you hire
- 1:12:55staff and they'll find areas they're
- 1:12:57working on together and cooperate but
- 1:12:59we're not pulling any money and we
- 1:13:01thought we'd get you know twenty
- 1:13:03twenty-five people together and in fact
- 1:13:06now we're at one hundred and fifty six
- 1:13:09so it is a wonderful yearly event I've
- 1:13:13made some great people I do think that
- 1:13:15the quantity and quality has gone up
- 1:13:18because we're getting together we'll
- 1:13:19never be able to measure that in a
- 1:13:21direct way in we're making special
- 1:13:24efforts in China and India because now
- 1:13:26we have a lot of welfare that wasn't
- 1:13:29there before and in their own way I
- 1:13:32think they by having a strong
- 1:13:33philanthropic sector that will help
- 1:13:36those countries and and therefore help
- 1:13:38the world what's interesting now
- 1:13:39building I are having dinner actually
- 1:13:41with a group tonight for example but if
- 1:13:44you go back 100 150 years people got
- 1:13:46wealthy by making some money from the
- 1:13:49first oil refinery or still a mill and
- 1:13:51building another one that Henry Ford
- 1:13:52would build a plan to build cars and
- 1:13:54then it would be from actually from
- 1:13:56retained earnings which eventually
- 1:13:58turned into cash now you can get rich
- 1:14:00very young just by having an idea and
- 1:14:02you can get that idea monetized and
- 1:14:05capitalized in a way that you cannot
- 1:14:06believe so we are particularly
- 1:14:08interested in getting younger people
- 1:14:09interested in flying because they there
- 1:14:12will be huge
- 1:14:13there are huge fortunes by people that
- 1:14:15are now in their 20s and 30s and just
- 1:14:18think about those the potential for that
- 1:14:20group and so on this thing has worked
- 1:14:22out way way better including getting
- 1:14:24younger people to join us number six
- 1:14:29hello my name is Christina Nunez I'm a
- 1:14:31fellow dental student - Josh thank you
- 1:14:34for speaking with us today I'm curious
- 1:14:37about your insight related to
- 1:14:39relationships
- 1:14:40I'm personally given a desire to honor
- 1:14:43myself and respect other individuals
- 1:14:46have found it difficult throughout life
- 1:14:48to discern which relationships to really
- 1:14:52foster and invest in and accept
- 1:14:54challenges from and which to kind of
- 1:14:57forego and abandoned because they're
- 1:14:59more harmful than helpful so are there
- 1:15:03any major life lessons that you to have
- 1:15:06learned through your personal
- 1:15:08experiences it's a very important
- 1:15:10question and the more you will move in
- 1:15:14the direction of the people that you
- 1:15:16associate with so I it's important to
- 1:15:18associate with people that are better
- 1:15:20than yourself and actually the most
- 1:15:22important decision many of you may not
- 1:15:23all of you will be the spouse you choose
- 1:15:25and you really you want to associate
- 1:15:31with people who are the kind of person
- 1:15:32you'd like to be and you'll you'll move
- 1:15:34in that direction and the most important
- 1:15:36person by far in that respect is your
- 1:15:38spouse I can't overemphasize how
- 1:15:40important that is you're right
- 1:15:42the friends you have they will form you
- 1:15:46as you go through life and make some
- 1:15:52good friends keep them for the rest of
- 1:15:54your life but have them be people that
- 1:15:57you admire as well as Wykeham don't do
- 1:16:00that to that yeah some friends do bring
- 1:16:03out the best in you and and so those
- 1:16:07it's good to invest in those friendships
- 1:16:09I and you know some friends challenge
- 1:16:13you about things you're doing
- 1:16:16and that you know that level of intimacy
- 1:16:19is great I wouldn't say that I'm you
- 1:16:21know I was so obsessed with work I
- 1:16:23didn't invest I'd say in my 20s and 30s
- 1:16:26as much as I should have
- 1:16:27it's really through Melinda and seen you
- 1:16:30know other people I realize okay that is
- 1:16:32you know it's really worth the
- 1:16:34investment to have those people as
- 1:16:37you're always there to help them and and
- 1:16:39vice versa
- 1:16:43you
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