Walter Williams: Suffer No Fools - Full Video — Transcript
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- 0:00The welfare state has done
- 0:02to black Americans what
- 0:04slavery could not have
- 0:05done, Jim Crow and the
- 0:08harshest racism could not
- 0:10have done - namely to
- 0:11destroy the black family.
- 0:13Many people believe that
- 0:15the route to economic
- 0:17power is to have political
- 0:20power, and there's
- 0:21absolutely no evidence to
- 0:23support that. Government
- 0:25cannot create a special
- 0:28privilege for one
- 0:29American, without
- 0:31simultaneously creating a
- 0:33special disadvantage for
- 0:35some other American. The
- 0:37phrase, "takes no
- 0:38prisoners," should have
- 0:39been invented to describe
- 0:41Walter Williams. I was a
- 0:42radical in terms of the
- 0:43civil rights movement. I
- 0:45was surely...I was not a
- 0:47supporter of Martin Luther
- 0:48King, but more a supporter
- 0:50of Malcolm X. You don't
- 0:52have to scratch your head
- 0:54and say, "You know, I
- 0:55wonder what Walter's
- 0:56really saying, what he
- 0:58really means?" I am very,
- 0:59very happy that I got
- 1:02virtually all of my
- 1:03education before it became
- 1:05fashionable for white
- 1:06people to like black
- 1:08people. Does the country
- 1:09need more people like
- 1:10Walter Williams? More
- 1:11people who are
- 1:12intellectually honest,
- 1:14intellectually rigorous,
- 1:16tell it like it is and
- 1:17don't engage in group
- 1:18thinking? I don't see how
- 1:20we could have too many,
- 1:21too many Walter Williams'.
- 1:31Major funding for Walter Williams
- 1:33Suffer No Fools was provided by
- 1:35Dunn's Foundation, and
- 1:37Searle Freedom Trust.
- 1:39Additional funding was
- 1:41provided by Beach
- 1:42Foundation, Harvey Cody,
- 1:44Donors Trust, The Hickory
- 1:47Foundation, William
- 1:48Shepard, and The Woodford
- 1:50Foundation for Limited
- 1:51Government.
- 1:58Walter Williams begins his day
- 2:00early - before most are
- 2:02out of bed. His enthusiasm
- 2:04for life is based on sound
- 2:06advice he received as a
- 2:08young man...learn to come
- 2:09early and stay late- and
- 2:13always be ready when the
- 2:14opportunity train comes
- 2:16along.
- 2:23If there's one
- 2:24great thing that can be
- 2:26said about the United
- 2:27States, just because you
- 2:29know where a person ends
- 2:32up in life, you can't be
- 2:34sure about where he
- 2:35started. Black Americans
- 2:39have made the greatest
- 2:40gains over some of the
- 2:42highest hurdles, in the
- 2:43shortest period of time,
- 2:45than any racial group in
- 2:47the history of mankind.
- 2:49Now the question before us
- 2:50is: how can we make these
- 2:52gains available to a large
- 2:56percentage of the black
- 2:57community for whom they
- 2:59appear to be elusive?
- 3:04He is an author, educator and
- 3:07syndicated columnist. His
- 3:09provocative ideas and
- 3:10infectious humor have
- 3:12attracted leaders in
- 3:13business and
- 3:14government...and millions
- 3:16of Americans who have come
- 3:18to share his views on
- 3:19radio and television. He
- 3:22has been called
- 3:22"outrageous" and
- 3:23"impossible," because he
- 3:25believes so deeply in the
- 3:26American constitution and
- 3:28in America.
- 3:31This morning,
- 3:31Walter Williams will make
- 3:33the drive from his
- 3:34suburban home in
- 3:35Philadelphia to the campus
- 3:36of George Mason University
- 3:38in Fairfax, Virginia, to
- 3:40do what he has done for
- 3:41more than 45 years- teach
- 3:44economics. When I go to my
- 3:46grocer and I buy a gallon
- 3:49of milk for three dollars
- 3:51I say, "Look, if you will
- 3:55give me title to that
- 3:59gallon of milk, I will
- 4:02give you title to this
- 4:04three dollars." I will
- 4:05exchange these titles. So,
- 4:08the essence of exchange is
- 4:11the transfer of property
- 4:13rights. Teaching is a
- 4:16passion for Walter
- 4:17Williams. He continues to
- 4:18believe the young people
- 4:19in his classroom are
- 4:20America's best hope for
- 4:22the future. I've learned a
- 4:24lot from Dr. Williams in
- 4:26that, you can tell that he
- 4:28approaches the ideas of
- 4:30liberty and private
- 4:31property and free markets
- 4:33from a moral perspective.
- 4:35And for me, that is
- 4:36incredibly important. The
- 4:38reason why slavery is
- 4:40immoral, or rape, or
- 4:42murder is immoral, because
- 4:44it violates private
- 4:45property. And so, if you
- 4:48start with the idea of
- 4:50self-ownership then you
- 4:51can say, "Well, what is
- 4:52moral and what is
- 4:53immoral?" The ideas that
- 4:56you hear me talk about-
- 4:57that people hear me
- 4:58discussing when I'm on the
- 5:01radio or in my column,
- 5:03those ideas- or those
- 5:06discussions never reach my
- 5:08classroom, because I think
- 5:10that it's an academic
- 5:12dishonesty to use the
- 5:14classroom to proselytize
- 5:16students. From his home in
- 5:20Philadelphia, Walter
- 5:21Williams spends much of
- 5:22his time writing his
- 5:23nationally syndicated
- 5:25column, or another book on
- 5:27his favored topics- race
- 5:29and economics.
- 5:33Buenos tardes Los Angeles! Larry
- 5:35Elder here, the sage from
- 5:36South Central, the prince
- 5:37of Pico Union, the czar
- 5:38of... Walter has long
- 5:40enjoyed his participation
- 5:41on radio and television.
- 5:43This is one of the
- 5:44problems that black
- 5:45Americans face. That is
- 5:47many of us...we feel that
- 5:49we can achieve salvation
- 5:51through the political
- 5:52arena, that is by putting
- 5:53a black person in charge
- 5:55of our lives. And if you
- 5:56ask the question, "In what
- 5:58cities in our country do
- 5:59black people receive the
- 6:01worst education, are most
- 6:04insecure in their lives,
- 6:06live under rotten
- 6:07conditions?" They are the
- 6:08very cities where a black
- 6:10is the mayor, the chief of
- 6:12police, the superintendent
- 6:13of schools. And I'm not
- 6:15saying there is a causal
- 6:17relationship between that.
- 6:18But I'm saying that
- 6:19there's not much salvation
- 6:21to be achieved through the
- 6:22political arena. My guest
- 6:23is Professor Walter
- 6:24Williams. He is an
- 6:25economics professor,
- 6:26teaches at George Mason
- 6:28University. If I say to
- 6:29the federal government, "I
- 6:30will pay my share of the
- 6:33constitutional,
- 6:34constitutionally mandated
- 6:35functions of the federal
- 6:36government, I will pay
- 6:37happily. But I will not
- 6:38have my earnings go to
- 6:40farmers, go to bail out
- 6:41big banks." You'll see all
- 6:42the intimidation, threats
- 6:43and oppression... But I
- 6:45think America, meets, any,
- 6:48any normal person's
- 6:49definition of - we are
- 6:51living in a free society
- 6:52here. This is not Plato's
- 6:53Republic. This is not the
- 6:55Soviet Union..... We're
- 6:56not living in a free
- 6:57society. Always
- 6:59controversial and popular,
- 7:01Walter has inspired
- 7:02students and colleagues
- 7:03alike. I first was
- 7:05introduced to Walter
- 7:06Williams when I saw him on
- 7:08television. It was in, I
- 7:10believe, the spring of
- 7:121981. Professor Williams
- 7:13is saying, among other
- 7:15things, that perhaps the
- 7:17Great Society programs,
- 7:19and the whole idea of
- 7:21government as father or
- 7:23paternal, has not been in
- 7:24the best interests of - of
- 7:25all people... minorities.
- 7:26And then Walter said a
- 7:29statement that I will
- 7:30never forget. He said to
- 7:33Phil Donahue, he said,
- 7:34"Phil, who owns you? Who
- 7:36owns your life?" Said John
- 7:39Locke, asked this question
- 7:40centuries ago, and I ask
- 7:42you and everybody in this
- 7:43audience, "Who owns your
- 7:44life?" Right then and
- 7:47there I said, "Oh, I love
- 7:48this guy. Who is this
- 7:50guy?" I didn't know who he
- 7:51was. I didn't even know
- 7:52his name at the time. And
- 7:53they flashed Dr. Walter
- 7:54Williams, George Mason
- 7:55University under, under
- 7:57his picture on the TV. And
- 7:59that night I then called
- 8:02Walter. I called the
- 8:03department, and I said,
- 8:04"Can I speak to Walter
- 8:05Williams?" And he was
- 8:06there in his office. And I
- 8:08said, "I want to study
- 8:09economics under you." So
- 8:11food stamps cause
- 8:12illegitimate babies then?
- 8:14No, no...no. Sexual
- 8:16intercourse does.
- 8:17AUDIENCE APPLAUSE...LAUGHTER
- 8:21MUSIC
- 8:34Walter E. Williams - claiming the
- 8:36"E" stands for excellence-
- 8:39was born in Philadelphia
- 8:40in 1936. He spent his
- 8:43early boyhood with his
- 8:44mother and his sister
- 8:45Catherine. In 1947, the
- 8:50family moved into the
- 8:51Richard Allen housing
- 8:52project in North
- 8:53Philadelphia, one of the
- 8:54city's first federally
- 8:56funded housing projects
- 8:57for working-class
- 8:58families. My mother was
- 9:02very, very important. She
- 9:05was the one who made the
- 9:06sacrifices to make sure
- 9:08that we got a reasonably
- 9:10good education given our
- 9:11income, given our
- 9:12circumstances. Even though
- 9:14we were poor, my mother
- 9:17used to always tell us,
- 9:19"Look, we have a beer
- 9:21pocketbook, but we have
- 9:22champagne taste." Walter's
- 9:24father was largely absent
- 9:26and offered almost no
- 9:27financial support. With
- 9:29the little he did provide,
- 9:31and Catherine Williams'
- 9:32part-time job as a
- 9:33domestic servant, the
- 9:35family got by. They were
- 9:37part of the welfare state,
- 9:39but they were never a part
- 9:40of the welfare ideology.
- 9:42She and her sisters were
- 9:44very determined people,
- 9:46and demanded a whole lot
- 9:48out of us as kids. At that
- 9:50time, blacks were very
- 9:52demanding of their
- 9:53children in terms of
- 9:54education and
- 9:55responsibility. I think
- 9:57part of the reason that my
- 9:59dad is who he is has a lot
- 10:01to do with her, and his
- 10:03upbringing with her. One
- 10:05of the reasons she's kind
- 10:06of inspirational for him
- 10:08is because she did a lot
- 10:09with the little that she
- 10:10had. There were different
- 10:12values of hard work and
- 10:15sacrifice and respect.
- 10:17And, and, many of those
- 10:18values are absent today
- 10:20among Americans in
- 10:21general, and very often,
- 10:24and even more so among
- 10:26young Americans who are
- 10:27black. This is Parish Drive.
- 10:29Okay. Where at least
- 10:32one of the streets that
- 10:34went into the projects.
- 10:35And it was much different
- 10:37then. That is, there
- 10:38wasn't the kind of the
- 10:39crime. There wasn't the
- 10:41broken families. Matter of
- 10:42fact, my sister and I were
- 10:43the only kids in this
- 10:45whole neighborhood that
- 10:46only had one parent in the
- 10:47house. Yeah, I'm sure
- 10:48that's not the case now.
- 10:49Walter's grandmother was
- 10:50the daughter of slaves.
- 10:52His mother never graduated
- 10:53from high school. Still,
- 10:55Catherine Williams
- 10:56introduced her son and
- 10:57daughter to as much
- 10:58culture as her pocketbook
- 11:00would allow. On weekends,
- 11:03she would take her
- 11:04children to the
- 11:05Philadelphia Museum of
- 11:06Art...the Free
- 11:07Library...and the Franklin
- 11:09institute. I was the first
- 11:10in the family to graduate
- 11:11from high school, but I
- 11:12wasn't always serious in
- 11:15school. I remember the
- 11:16counselor told my mother,
- 11:18"As soon as he gets this
- 11:20foolishness out of him,
- 11:21he's really going to go
- 11:22somewhere."
- 11:25One of the
- 11:26rather remarkable
- 11:27differences between I
- 11:29guess today, among many,
- 11:30many black Americans than
- 11:32of yesteryear, is that
- 11:34well, in yesteryear we
- 11:36could not dream of having
- 11:37all the material things
- 11:39that are available to poor
- 11:40people today. We're no
- 11:42longer looking at problems
- 11:44of poverty defined in
- 11:46terms of money. We are
- 11:48looking at a kind of
- 11:50poverty, and I think it's
- 11:51similar to what Walter
- 11:53refers to it as spiritual
- 11:54poverty, in which there
- 11:56has been a loss of a
- 11:58vision of what constitutes
- 12:00a good life. And what I
- 12:02mean by spiritual poverty
- 12:04is where people lack the
- 12:06ambition. They've
- 12:07developed the ideas of
- 12:08dependency, and they're
- 12:12engaging in all kinds of
- 12:13pathological behaviors,
- 12:17such as the high
- 12:18illegitimacy rate where
- 12:2070-some percent of black
- 12:21kids are born out of
- 12:22wedlock. And it was like,
- 12:24in 1940, it was only 13
- 12:26percent.
- 12:28Once you've reached that stage,
- 12:30you've got to change the culture
- 12:32before you can solve the problem.
- 12:35Daniel Patrick
- 12:36Moynihan was United States
- 12:37assistant secretary of
- 12:39labor in 1965. His
- 12:42controversial Moynihan
- 12:43Report helped stimulate
- 12:45President Lyndon Johnson's
- 12:46"War on Poverty." There
- 12:48are health districts in
- 12:49New York City, where for
- 12:50every thousand children,
- 12:51781 are living on welfare.
- 12:54The illegitimacy ratios in
- 12:56the city- in some of the
- 12:59slums is up now towards 50
- 13:01percent. Half the children
- 13:03born are illegitimate, and
- 13:05we don't understand that.
- 13:07The irony is, the people
- 13:08who do that are
- 13:09congratulating themselves
- 13:10to this day for having
- 13:11created the welfare state,
- 13:13with no thought about what
- 13:14were...what was the
- 13:16collateral damage? And
- 13:17were the small things that
- 13:20you were able to do for
- 13:21people worth that damage?
- 13:23What we find is the basic
- 13:25economic principle, and
- 13:27that is, if you tax
- 13:29something you're going to
- 13:30get less of it, and if you
- 13:31subsidize it, you're going
- 13:33to get more of it. And
- 13:34what we've been doing is
- 13:35subsidizing slovenly behavior.
- 13:43In the 1940s,
- 13:44almost any youngster,
- 13:46black or white, who wanted
- 13:48to work, found a job. At
- 13:50the age of ten, Walter was
- 13:52shining shoes. In high
- 13:54school, he delivered mail
- 13:56and packed shipping orders
- 13:57for the Sears Roebuck
- 13:58department store. If I
- 14:00wanted to go to the
- 14:01movies, or if I wanted to
- 14:04go to the amusement park,
- 14:07there was no money from my
- 14:08mother to give us to go to
- 14:09the amusement park, and so
- 14:11we had to work. One of
- 14:15Walter's favorite jobs was
- 14:17at the Horn & Hardart
- 14:18Automat, in the heart of
- 14:19downtown Philadelphia.
- 14:21Once the world's largest
- 14:23restaurant chain, the
- 14:24automat, with its iconic
- 14:25coin operated machines was
- 14:27America's original fast
- 14:29food restaurant. I thought
- 14:31that Horn and Hardart's
- 14:32was a wonderful job. Horn
- 14:35and Hardart was a very,
- 14:37very famous restaurant in
- 14:38Philadelphia, and the good
- 14:39thing about working at
- 14:40Horn and Hardart's was
- 14:42here I am, 14 or 15 years
- 14:43old, you could eat all you
- 14:45want. And the way to an
- 14:47adolescent's heart is by
- 14:51giving them lots of food.
- 14:54Walter's first real job
- 14:56was at the U-Needa-Hat
- 14:57Company, where he taught
- 14:59himself to operate an
- 15:00electric sewing machine.
- 15:02When a seamstress found
- 15:03out he was on the payroll,
- 15:05she complained that the
- 15:06owner was in violation of
- 15:07child labor laws. There
- 15:09was a visit from the
- 15:10Department of Labor... and
- 15:12Walter was fired. During
- 15:14the time, I thought the
- 15:15Labor Department was on my
- 15:17side because they're, I
- 15:18said they're really trying
- 15:20to get more money for me.
- 15:22But after the fact, when
- 15:24I'd lost my job, I found
- 15:25that they're not really on
- 15:26my side at all. Much
- 15:31later, in 1985, Walter
- 15:33protested labor laws like
- 15:35the minimum wage in his
- 15:36first public television
- 15:38documentary, Good
- 15:39Intentions. Today, in
- 15:42ghettos like I grew up in,
- 15:4470 percent of black
- 15:46children who look for
- 15:47jobs, cannot find them.
- 15:49That's a shame because a
- 15:51first job means much more
- 15:53than pocket change. It's a
- 15:54chance for a start, maybe
- 15:56in a store like this. Most
- 15:58of the kids that you give
- 15:59jobs to, they hold them
- 16:00for a long period of time.
- 16:02And I wish I could give
- 16:04more kids jobs, because I
- 16:06have kids constantly
- 16:07coming up to me and asking
- 16:09me for jobs. They're even
- 16:11more important for kids
- 16:12who grow up in broken
- 16:14homes, who've gone to
- 16:15rotten schools, because if
- 16:16they're going to learn
- 16:18anything that will make
- 16:19them a more valuable
- 16:20worker in the future,
- 16:22they're not going to learn
- 16:23it in their neighborhoods.
- 16:25They're not going to learn
- 16:26in their schools. So they
- 16:28have to learn it on the
- 16:30job. And what the Minimum
- 16:32Wage Law does, it nixes
- 16:34that learning. Starting in
- 16:351961, congress began to
- 16:37push the minimum wage
- 16:38higher. In effect, the law
- 16:39forced teenagers to ask
- 16:41for more than they were
- 16:42worth. Most people are
- 16:44unaware, in 1948- black 16
- 16:47and 17 year olds had an
- 16:49unemployment rate just
- 16:51under 10 percent. They
- 16:52were not to get down that
- 16:55low again, in even the
- 16:57most prosperous years in
- 16:58the 60s, 70s or any time,
- 17:00right up to the present
- 17:02moment. A lot of people
- 17:04say, "Well, the minimum
- 17:06wage is an anti-poverty
- 17:07device." Well, that is
- 17:09utter nonsense. It doesn't
- 17:11even pass the smell-test.
- 17:13Because if it were an
- 17:15anti-poverty device, well
- 17:17then, instead of spending
- 17:18all this money on foreign
- 17:19aid, we just have our
- 17:21experts at the State
- 17:22Department tell
- 17:23Bangladesh, "Well you
- 17:25could be rich like we are,
- 17:27just have a higher minimum
- 17:28wage."
- 17:34In 1958, Walter's
- 17:36mother remarried, and for
- 17:38Walter that was good news.
- 17:41She married her childhood
- 17:43sweetheart, and his name
- 17:44was Thomas Burchett. And
- 17:46we called him Pops. He
- 17:48became a father that I
- 17:50never had. And then he
- 17:52taught me responsibility.
- 17:54There are so many lessons
- 17:56that my dad continued
- 17:57through Pops, through me.
- 18:01It's those lessons that
- 18:02his Pops taught him that
- 18:05made him a better man.
- 18:07Walter graduates from high
- 18:08school, and registers for
- 18:10two night classes at
- 18:11Temple University. To pay
- 18:13the bill he goes to work
- 18:15driving a taxi, and that
- 18:17changes his life. Through
- 18:19another driver, he meets
- 18:21an attractive young woman
- 18:22destined to become Mrs.
- 18:25Walter Williams. She was a
- 18:27wonderful person, and she
- 18:28was very, very good for
- 18:30me. She, as Walter, had a
- 18:32great sense of herself.
- 18:33She was a pleasure to be
- 18:35around, and she didn't
- 18:36take any stuff from
- 18:38Walter. I loved the
- 18:40relationship between
- 18:41Connie and Walter because
- 18:43she really kept him under
- 18:44control, and he really
- 18:46enjoyed it. She was a very
- 18:48level-headed person. I
- 18:50suppose she would have to
- 18:51be...and very discerning.
- 18:54And not at all like so
- 18:57many people that you meet,
- 18:58who are trying to show off
- 19:01how smart they are. She
- 19:02was an older woman. She
- 19:03was three years older than
- 19:05I and a little more
- 19:08worldly than I. But she
- 19:11was very, very effective
- 19:14at giving me some of her
- 19:16skills for getting along
- 19:18with people, because I did
- 19:19not get along that well
- 19:20with people. We became
- 19:22instantaneous friends. She
- 19:25was smart, and like I
- 19:26said, she handles Walter
- 19:27beautifully. My mom taught
- 19:30my dad how to behave,
- 19:32really. And not so much
- 19:34that he didn't know how to
- 19:35interact with people, he
- 19:37did. When you're with a
- 19:39man with that intellect,
- 19:41sometimes wives tend to be
- 19:42a little reticent...not
- 19:44Connie. They would, you
- 19:46know, go to parties and he
- 19:48would be arrogant. And
- 19:50they would come home and
- 19:51he would get a scolding,
- 19:52saying "You know, you
- 19:53can't talk to people like
- 19:54that." is what my mom
- 19:55would say. "If you want to
- 19:56be friends with someone,
- 19:57you don't have to prove
- 19:58you're the smartest person
- 19:59in the room. People will
- 20:00know just by having
- 20:02conversation with you."
- 20:04Conchetta Taylor was born
- 20:05the youngest of eleven
- 20:06children. She was three
- 20:08years old when her mother
- 20:09died, leaving her father
- 20:11to care for his large and
- 20:13very poor family.
- 20:15Sometimes they would go
- 20:16into an abandoned house,
- 20:19and he could jerry-rig the
- 20:21electricity so that they
- 20:23would have some
- 20:24electricity and some heat
- 20:27maybe, until they were
- 20:28discovered and they had to
- 20:29move. Their relationship
- 20:31developed quickly and
- 20:33Connie urged him to
- 20:34fashion a plan for his
- 20:35future. Walter decided
- 20:38they would move to
- 20:39California where he wanted
- 20:40to finish college. It is
- 20:451958, and America is still
- 20:48drafting able-bodied men
- 20:49in the armed forces. Even
- 20:52Elvis Presley had to put
- 20:53his career on hold, and by
- 20:55the next summer, Walter
- 20:57too, would be drafted into
- 20:58Uncle Sam's army.
- 21:00Sometimes I don't call it
- 21:01drafting- my labor
- 21:02services were confiscated
- 21:04by the United States
- 21:05government. And I just had
- 21:07to put off everything that
- 21:08I had planned on doing to
- 21:10spend two years in the
- 21:12army. Walter's stepfather
- 21:15"Pops" was a tech sergeant
- 21:17during World War II. He
- 21:19had some sound advice for
- 21:20the young man. "Being in
- 21:22the army is a million
- 21:24dollar experience that you
- 21:26wouldn't take a million
- 21:27dollars to do again." He
- 21:30had no idea how right Pops
- 21:32was. Walter boarded a bus
- 21:34that would take him to
- 21:35boot camp in the Deep
- 21:36South. It was only the
- 21:38beginning of a long and
- 21:40difficult journey. My
- 21:42first experience with open
- 21:44discrimination and
- 21:46segregation was while I
- 21:48was on my way reporting to
- 21:49Fort Stewart, Georgia. And
- 21:51I looked up and saw a sign
- 21:54saying, "Colored Waiting
- 21:56Room." There was
- 21:58discrimination in
- 21:59Philadelphia, but there
- 22:01weren't the open signs
- 22:02saying, "Colored waiting
- 22:04room, colored bathroom,
- 22:05colored water fountain." I
- 22:08was just in shock, because
- 22:09I'd never seen that being
- 22:10born and raised in
- 22:11Philadelphia. In 1948,
- 22:15President Harry Truman
- 22:16by-passed congress to end
- 22:18"official" segregation in
- 22:19the American armed forces
- 22:21with an executive order.
- 22:23But for Walter, the order
- 22:25was meaningless. Truman's
- 22:27desegregation of the army
- 22:29was to eliminate separate
- 22:33divisions, like black
- 22:35companies and white
- 22:38companies. But
- 22:39nonetheless,
- 22:40discrimination and
- 22:42segregation remained. One
- 22:44obvious form of
- 22:45discrimination in the
- 22:46military was the
- 22:47assignment of menial jobs
- 22:48to blacks. Walter was sent
- 22:51to the motor pool to wash
- 22:52military vehicles. When he
- 22:54was ordered to paint a
- 22:55two-and-a-half-ton truck,
- 22:57he knew full well the
- 22:58officer meant only the
- 23:00flatbed. By the time he
- 23:02got to the tires- he was
- 23:03stopped. And so he says,
- 23:06"Soldier, what in the hell
- 23:07are you doing?" I said,
- 23:08"I'm painting the truck,
- 23:09sir." He said, "You don't
- 23:11do it that way." I said,
- 23:11"You said the whole
- 23:12truck." I was using my
- 23:14best Stepin Fetchit
- 23:15routine. ...exactly
- 23:19nervous...I just generally
- 23:21falls to pieces around
- 23:22polices... Hi, once again
- 23:25this is Dick Clark,
- 23:26welcoming you back to
- 23:27American Bandstand.
- 23:30Walter's troublemaking
- 23:31doesn't end with the
- 23:32truck. He stirs up white
- 23:33soldiers, telling them he
- 23:34saw his white girlfriend
- 23:35dancing on TV's American
- 23:37Bandstand, and organizes
- 23:39black soldiers to attend a
- 23:40segregated dance...on the
- 23:42wrong night. He becomes
- 23:43more and more unpopular,
- 23:45not only with the officers
- 23:46and his peers, but with
- 23:47some of the black
- 23:48soldiers. They used to say
- 23:50things like, "We had our
- 23:51own senators, we have our
- 23:54own churches, our own
- 23:55stores, and it's people
- 23:57like you from the North
- 23:58that's coming down here
- 24:00causing problems. And in
- 24:02fact, many of the white
- 24:04soldiers told me, "Don't
- 24:05come off the base." The
- 24:08targets of the Nashville
- 24:09students were the lunch
- 24:10counters of the city's two
- 24:11largest department stores,
- 24:13and four variety stores.
- 24:15And for the first time,
- 24:17the community was
- 24:18confronted with Negroes in
- 24:19places where they had
- 24:21never been. It is 1960.
- 24:25America has entered a new
- 24:27phase of the civil rights
- 24:28movement. Black college
- 24:30students are staging
- 24:31"sit-ins" at segregated
- 24:32lunch counters, waiting
- 24:34rooms and government
- 24:35offices throughout the
- 24:36South. They come in, and
- 24:38they sit down and we're
- 24:40not used to them sitting
- 24:41down beside us- because I
- 24:42wasn't raised with them. I
- 24:43never have lived with
- 24:44them, and I'm not going to
- 24:45start now. Inspired by
- 24:47blatant displays of
- 24:48bigotry on
- 24:49television, Walter's
- 24:50troublemaking continues.
- 24:52One of the menial jobs he
- 24:53is ordered to do is sweep
- 24:55out battalion headquarters
- 24:56and run errands. That is
- 24:58when he discovers the head
- 24:59clerk at battalion
- 25:00headquarters is up for a
- 25:02discharge. I asked the
- 25:03sergeant major could I
- 25:04have his job. And so the
- 25:06sergeant major laughed,
- 25:07and he had been briefed
- 25:08about me. And so he said,
- 25:10"You probably couldn't
- 25:11figure out the job." And
- 25:13so I said, "Well, give me
- 25:14a chance." And so he said,
- 25:16"Well, okay type this."
- 25:17I typed it, and I corrected
- 25:20some errors in it, and I
- 25:21handed it back to him, and
- 25:23so I convinced him that I
- 25:27could do the job. Being
- 25:30the court recorder I
- 25:31learned a whole lot about
- 25:32military law. And that
- 25:34helped me out very well
- 25:35when I was
- 25:36court-martialed. Private
- 25:38Walter Williams was served
- 25:40his summary court-martial
- 25:42on a trumped-up charge of
- 25:44failing to obey a direct
- 25:47command. The company
- 25:48commander told me to lay
- 25:49out a full field
- 25:50inspection, and so, I laid
- 25:53it out and the sergeant
- 25:54told me to put it away.
- 25:55And so the company
- 25:57commander called me to the
- 25:58office and asked me how
- 25:59come I didn't lay out the
- 26:00full field inspection? And
- 26:02I told him, "I did, but
- 26:03the sergeant told me to
- 26:04put it away and go to
- 26:05work." And so he called
- 26:07the sergeant in, and the
- 26:08sergeant said he hadn't
- 26:09seen me that morning. They
- 26:11were really after me. He
- 26:13serves as his own defense
- 26:14council and is found "not
- 26:16guilty of all charges."
- 26:18The army brass, knowing
- 26:20that Walter is considering
- 26:21legal action against his
- 26:23captain, orders him to
- 26:24finish his duty...in South
- 26:26Korea. Before shipping
- 26:29out, and not wanting to
- 26:31lose Connie, he proposes.
- 26:33They're married by the
- 26:34Reverend John Logan,
- 26:35rector of St. Simon
- 26:36Episcopal Church. Unable
- 26:39to afford a church
- 26:40wedding, Walter accepts
- 26:42Reverend Logan's offer to
- 26:43perform the ceremony
- 26:44across the street in the
- 26:46front room of his home.
- 26:50In Korea, Walter resumes his
- 26:54campaign against
- 26:55discrimination. He writes
- 26:56letters to his superiors,
- 26:57to politicians and to the
- 26:59editors of newspapers. The
- 27:01Philadelphia Independent
- 27:03prints his letter
- 27:04detailing racial
- 27:05discrimination and shabby
- 27:06military practices on its
- 27:08front page. I had officers
- 27:11that would question me and
- 27:12say, what's my agenda? And
- 27:14I would say, "In all due
- 27:17respect to you, sir, I
- 27:18took an oath of office
- 27:20when I was drafted into
- 27:22the army to uphold and
- 27:24defend the United States
- 27:25Constitution against its
- 27:27enemies, both foreign and
- 27:28domestic. And you sir, are
- 27:30a domestic enemy of the
- 27:32Constitution. As a
- 27:33reservist, Walter
- 27:34continues to fight for his
- 27:36constitutional rights. He
- 27:37writes to President John
- 27:38Kennedy and asks,
- 27:40"...should Negroes be
- 27:41relieved of their service
- 27:42obligation, or continue
- 27:43defending and dying for
- 27:45empty promises of freedom
- 27:47and equality?" He receives
- 27:50a reply from the Assistant
- 27:52Secretary of Defense, and
- 27:54his assistant calls to
- 27:55suggest that he just might
- 27:56want to request a hardship
- 27:58release from active
- 27:59reserve duty. Walter
- 28:01followed that advice and
- 28:02two years later, in 1965,
- 28:05he received an honorable
- 28:07discharge. I was
- 28:0824-years-old and I said,
- 28:10"If I don't get started
- 28:12soon...I'm never going to
- 28:13be anything. And so, I
- 28:16wrote a letter to Connie
- 28:18and I said, "Well, as soon
- 28:20as we save $700, we're
- 28:22going to go to Los
- 28:23Angeles, and I'm going to
- 28:24go to college." Going to
- 28:26Los Angeles was probably
- 28:27the second wisest decision
- 28:29I made in my life. And the
- 28:30first one was to marry Connie.
- 28:32MUSIC
- 28:43In February 1962,
- 28:46Walter enrolls as a
- 28:47full-time student at
- 28:48California State College,
- 28:50Los Angeles. With Connie
- 28:52at his side, it seems
- 28:54anything is possible. He
- 28:56said, "You know, I have to
- 28:57do better. I don't want to
- 28:59drive a cab until I'm 70."
- 29:01And I think because she
- 29:02was willing to go with
- 29:03him- and willing to
- 29:04support him...go to
- 29:05California...and she
- 29:06worked full-time his
- 29:08entire time through grad
- 29:10school and under grad. I
- 29:12don't think there is a way
- 29:13that he could have done it
- 29:14by himself. And we were
- 29:16together as a couple,
- 29:18inseparable for close to
- 29:2150 years before she passed
- 29:23away. And I owe a good
- 29:26part of my life character
- 29:29to Connie, because Connie
- 29:32was a civilizing
- 29:33influence. He lost his
- 29:35soul mate and his partner,
- 29:36and the person that he
- 29:38shares everything with.
- 29:40His "beautiful girl," is
- 29:41what he would say. He lost
- 29:42her. And I think that
- 29:45we're both still
- 29:46recovering from that.
- 29:49Their relationship was a
- 29:51certainly loving one. She
- 29:53really, she taught him how
- 29:54to - to love. They lived a
- 29:57modest existence on
- 29:58Connie's paycheck, and
- 29:59Walter was enjoying life
- 30:01as a college student. But
- 30:03the struggle for civil
- 30:04rights could not be
- 30:05ignored. I was a radical
- 30:07in terms of the civil
- 30:08rights movement. I was not
- 30:10a supporter of Martin
- 30:11Luther King, but more a
- 30:13supporter of Malcolm X.
- 30:15And I believe that...that
- 30:17the use of violence and
- 30:20confrontation was far more
- 30:23appropriate than "We shall
- 30:25overcome." The goal of Dr.
- 30:27Martin Luther King is to
- 30:28get Negroes to forgive the
- 30:29people who have brutalized
- 30:31them for 400 years, by
- 30:33lulling them to sleep, and
- 30:34making them forgetting
- 30:35what whites have done to
- 30:37them. I was a sociology
- 30:38major at Cal State LA. I
- 30:40read W.E.B. DuBois' Black
- 30:42Reconstruction. And he was
- 30:45saying that Negroes are
- 30:46not going to achieve any
- 30:48salvation in our country
- 30:49until they understand the
- 30:50economic system. And that
- 30:52convinced me that well- I
- 30:54think I should major in
- 30:55economics. I truly believe
- 30:57that Walter found out,
- 30:59too, is that if you
- 31:00understand economics, you
- 31:01can work your way in this
- 31:02world a lot better. You
- 31:03don't get fooled by
- 31:04politicians or other
- 31:06people. I saw it as a
- 31:08struggle for liberty.
- 31:17The portrayal of blacks as
- 31:18helpless victims of
- 31:19slavery, discrimination
- 31:22and personal violence is a
- 31:24part of our American
- 31:25history. But for Walter,
- 31:27the facts of the matter do
- 31:28not square with that
- 31:29portrayal. Many blacks
- 31:31went to work to earn the
- 31:33money they would need to
- 31:34buy their freedom. One of
- 31:38the big mistakes that we
- 31:40make in terms of looking
- 31:42at black history in the
- 31:43United States is our
- 31:45failure to recognize that
- 31:47blacks did not accept
- 31:49slavery passively. There
- 31:52was a phenomenon called
- 31:55self-hiring, or sometimes
- 31:56they call it quasi-free
- 32:00blacks. One of the more
- 32:01famous quasi-free Negroes
- 32:03was Frederick Douglass.
- 32:04He did ship caulking. He did
- 32:06many other kinds of jobs,
- 32:08and he would go back and
- 32:09give his owner some money.
- 32:11Despite the rhetoric that
- 32:12people use, considering
- 32:15blacks as lower forms of
- 32:18human beings, economics
- 32:19tends to bring people to
- 32:20their senses. Whites were
- 32:23willing to hire blacks.
- 32:24Whites were willing to
- 32:25make purchases from
- 32:26blacks...why? Because
- 32:28either they worked for
- 32:29lower wages, or a higher
- 32:31quality product. And so
- 32:33again... economics tend to
- 32:35bring people to their
- 32:36senses. Over time, blacks
- 32:39struggled to enter the
- 32:40mainstream of American
- 32:41life. They acquired
- 32:43property and personal
- 32:44holdings to the point that
- 32:46DuBois commented: "...it
- 32:47is astonishing how the
- 32:49African has integrated
- 32:50himself into American
- 32:51civilization." In 1853,
- 32:54Frederick Douglass warned
- 32:55his fellow blacks, "Learn
- 32:58trades or starve."
- 33:01Black entrepreneurs began to
- 33:02exploit markets for fellow
- 33:04blacks as well as whites.
- 33:06By the mid-19th century,
- 33:08Thomy Lafon became a real
- 33:09estate dealer in New
- 33:10Orleans. His fortune
- 33:12totaled $8 million dollars
- 33:14in today's money. William
- 33:16H. Brown founded the first
- 33:18black bank in Virginia.
- 33:20Junius G. Groves was born
- 33:22a slave in Kentucky, but
- 33:24when he went to Kansas he
- 33:25became the country's
- 33:26largest individual grower
- 33:28of potatoes. And in
- 33:31Concord, North Carolina,
- 33:33Warren Clay Coleman
- 33:34received financial
- 33:35assistance from wealthy
- 33:36white businessmen to found
- 33:38his Coleman Textile
- 33:39Manufacturing Company. One
- 33:43of the best kept secrets
- 33:45of the 19th century is
- 33:46that blacks were making a
- 33:48lot of progress in the
- 33:49face of obstacles. When
- 33:52whites faced competition
- 33:54from blacks, either as
- 33:56workers or merchants, then
- 34:00they used the political
- 34:01system to rig the economic
- 34:03game. So what do you do?
- 34:05You pass a law that says
- 34:08that you restrict
- 34:10competition, so that all
- 34:11at once it's much more
- 34:13difficult for blacks to
- 34:14have a competitive
- 34:15advantage by being willing
- 34:16to work for lower wages,
- 34:17which historically is how
- 34:19people get ahead.
- 34:19And this is why the
- 34:22people who are for discrimination
- 34:25are also against markets,
- 34:26because they know markets
- 34:28tend to be color blind.
- 34:31CHEERING
- 34:36High school basketball: an
- 34:39opening for a young person
- 34:40of color to take a shot at
- 34:42becoming a professional
- 34:43player. Not long
- 34:45ago...such opportunity did
- 34:47not exist. A long-time fan
- 34:50of basketball, Walter and
- 34:52former NBA referee Steve
- 34:54Javie both know how the
- 34:56free market creates
- 34:57opportunity, without any
- 34:59need for racial
- 35:00preferences. At one time,
- 35:02black Americans were not
- 35:04allowed in professional
- 35:05basketball and football.
- 35:07Well, how did black
- 35:09Americans go from not
- 35:10being in these sports...
- 35:11Right. ... to being the
- 35:14top and dominating them-
- 35:15if it wasn't due to any
- 35:18anti-discriminatory laws,
- 35:19or affirmative action at
- 35:21all? So you say, well, how
- 35:23do you explain it? I think
- 35:25that these guys can just
- 35:27do a 360 slam dunk in your
- 35:29face, and you can't do
- 35:30anything about it. You
- 35:32mean you're saying I can't
- 35:33do it? No you can't.
- 35:34(Laughter)
- 35:36I know you say there wasn't
- 35:37affirmative action. I agree, probably
- 35:39wasn't, it was the fact
- 35:40that they started becoming
- 35:41so good at what they were
- 35:42doing. Well, you couldn't
- 35:43ignore them. Right, but
- 35:45you still had to get the
- 35:46public to accept that.
- 35:48Well, I don't know...in
- 35:49the sense of like when
- 35:50Branch Rickey of the
- 35:53Dodgers, when he hired
- 35:55Jackie Robinson- that was
- 35:57a risk. But once he hired
- 35:59Jackie Robinson, there was
- 36:00this huge pool of black
- 36:02talent... Robinson is the
- 36:04first of his race to be
- 36:06honored with admission
- 36:07into the shrine of the
- 36:08national game. Branch
- 36:09Ricky was known for a long
- 36:10time as someone who had a
- 36:11keen appreciation for the
- 36:13dollar. For him, it would
- 36:15be a bonanza to bring
- 36:16Jackie Robinson into the
- 36:17major leagues. So much
- 36:19that Jackie Robinson was
- 36:20put through was due to the
- 36:22fact that other people
- 36:24understood that once he
- 36:26broke the color line, it
- 36:28was all over. What allowed
- 36:30the race thing to stay as
- 36:32long as it did was the
- 36:33absence of competition.
- 36:34Major League baseball had
- 36:35an exemption from the
- 36:37anti-trust laws. And so,
- 36:39the cartel was safe. They
- 36:41could do whatever they
- 36:42wanted. But once one
- 36:43member of that cartel
- 36:44broke that barrier, then
- 36:47the others would be at an
- 36:48enormous disadvantage
- 36:50within organized baseball,
- 36:51if they didn't also get
- 36:53black players. And of
- 36:54course, they did. In
- 36:57sports, or in the music
- 37:00industry where you see
- 37:01black excellence, you
- 37:02don't see any affirmative
- 37:03action. You don't see any
- 37:05lawsuits. What you do see
- 37:07is excellence.
- 37:15The turmoil of the mid 60s while I was
- 37:18in California, I did not
- 37:22participate in it at all,
- 37:24and the reason why was- I
- 37:27was just too busy. I was
- 37:28working full-time and I
- 37:30was a full-time student at
- 37:32UCLA. And I just could not
- 37:36participate, and then
- 37:37after a while, I just
- 37:39thought it was nonsense.
- 37:41When Walter graduated from
- 37:43Cal State with a BA in
- 37:44economics, one of his
- 37:46professors encouraged him
- 37:47to pursue graduate school.
- 37:50He enrolled in UCLA's
- 37:51program in economics-
- 37:53among the top dozen such
- 37:54programs in the country.
- 37:57Walter was a remarkable
- 37:59presence from the first
- 38:00moment I met him. There
- 38:02was the shark's tooth
- 38:04necklace; the
- 38:06height; the evident energy,
- 38:09and the underlying strength.
- 38:13Plus the rumor that I think he
- 38:15may have helped propagate,
- 38:16that he'd been an enforcer
- 38:18for the Black Panthers.
- 38:20After receiving his
- 38:21master's degree, he lands
- 38:23a part-time teaching job
- 38:24at Los Angeles City
- 38:25College. He would quickly
- 38:27realize he was both
- 38:29teacher...and student. It
- 38:31taught me economics...that
- 38:32is one of the best ways to
- 38:33learn economics is to
- 38:34teach it. And then it
- 38:36taught me that, heck, I
- 38:38really like teaching and
- 38:39I'm going to make this a
- 38:41career. With the help of
- 38:43tough-minded mentors like
- 38:44Armen Alchian and Larry
- 38:46Kimball at UCLA, and his
- 38:48exposure to the works of
- 38:49philosopher/economists
- 38:51like Friedrich Hayek and
- 38:52Milton Friedman, Walter
- 38:54went on to earn his Ph.D.
- 38:56At UCLA they gave me
- 38:58inspiration to think with
- 39:00my brain, instead of my
- 39:03heart. It was probably,
- 39:05maybe the beginning of my
- 39:07switching from one kind of
- 39:09radical to another. With a
- 39:12head full of new ideas,
- 39:13Walter accepts a full-time
- 39:15assistant professorship
- 39:16from Cal State's Economics
- 39:18Department...a long way
- 39:20from the Philadelphia
- 39:21projects. I often tell
- 39:25people that I am very,
- 39:27very happy that I got
- 39:29virtually all of my
- 39:30education before it became
- 39:32fashionable for white
- 39:34people to like black
- 39:35people. So what that meant
- 39:37is that when I got a C, it
- 39:39was an honest-to-God C.
- 39:40When I got an A, it was an
- 39:42honest-to-God A. They
- 39:43weren't practicing
- 39:44affirmative action, and
- 39:45they didn't give a damn
- 39:46about my self-esteem.
- 39:53The violence in the streets
- 39:55over racial injustice, and
- 39:56the country's impatience
- 39:58with the Vietnam War
- 39:59escalates, but Walter
- 40:01remains focused on his
- 40:03career. In the fall of
- 40:051973, Walter and Connie
- 40:09move back to Philadelphia,
- 40:10and a new job teaching
- 40:11economics at Temple
- 40:12University. Before long,
- 40:14he is once again embroiled
- 40:17in controversy. There was
- 40:19a move by black students
- 40:21to demand a black
- 40:22economics course. And so I
- 40:25asked my colleagues,
- 40:26imagine if Irish or
- 40:28Italian students demanded
- 40:30Irish or Italian
- 40:31economics, you would throw
- 40:32them out of your office.
- 40:33But because of your guilt,
- 40:36you will listen to black
- 40:37students saying the same
- 40:39thing. In time, Walter
- 40:42becomes aware that some of
- 40:44his fellow faculty are
- 40:45especially tolerant of
- 40:47their under-performing
- 40:48black students. He writes
- 40:50a memo to the
- 40:51administrators of Temple's
- 40:52business school citing
- 40:54"fraudulent grades." A
- 40:56reporter's interview with
- 40:57Walter and his memo
- 40:59promptly appear in the
- 41:00Philadelphia Inquirer.
- 41:02Racial preferences or
- 41:04affirmative action is one
- 41:07of the most effective
- 41:09means, I believe, of
- 41:10reinforcing racial
- 41:12stereotypes. People don't
- 41:14realize that if you go
- 41:15back, from 1950 to 1965,
- 41:20blacks were moving up on
- 41:23all sorts of important
- 41:24dimensions. And they
- 41:26stopped moving up in a lot
- 41:27of those precisely at the
- 41:28time when "equal outcomes"
- 41:31became the battle cry. Not
- 41:33just equality as a right
- 41:36and a theory, but equality
- 41:39as a fact, and equality as
- 41:43a result. And that set in
- 41:47motion a cascade of
- 41:50subsequent programs,
- 41:52affirmative action, all
- 41:54the things the Equal
- 41:55Employment Opportunity
- 41:56Commission does. Every
- 41:57single one of them with
- 41:59the very best of
- 42:00intentions, and every
- 42:01single one of them
- 42:02producing feedback loops
- 42:04and unintended
- 42:05consequences, which have
- 42:07made it harder and harder
- 42:08to achieve the progress
- 42:10that was being achieved,
- 42:13before we got into the
- 42:14equal outcome mind set.
- 42:16America should have said
- 42:17to us at this time, we
- 42:19acknowledge what we did,
- 42:20and we are profoundly
- 42:21sorry. We will make every
- 42:22effort never to do
- 42:24this kind of thing
- 42:25again to anybody, any group.
- 42:26And now you're on your own.
- 42:28Racial discrimination and racism
- 42:31in our country could have
- 42:34earned a well-deserved
- 42:36death, but it has been
- 42:40resurrected by
- 42:41race-hustlers, or poverty
- 42:44pimps I call them, such as
- 42:46Jesse Jackson, Al
- 42:48Sharpton, and many others
- 42:50in the civil rights
- 42:51movement, who make a
- 42:53living on the grievances
- 42:56of blacks. In the summer
- 42:58of 1975, Walter accepts a
- 43:01one-year fellowship at
- 43:02Stanford University's Hoover Institution.
- 43:05He and Connie
- 43:07and their new-born
- 43:08daughter Devon would move
- 43:10back to California. I went
- 43:12out there that summer, and
- 43:13I was commissioned to do a
- 43:15study for the Joint
- 43:16Economic Committee of
- 43:17Congress on the minimum
- 43:19wage, and the Davis-Bacon
- 43:21Act. That is, these are
- 43:22laws that regulate the
- 43:26wages that people may
- 43:28earn. And I came to the
- 43:30conclusion that the
- 43:31minimum wage law
- 43:33discriminated against
- 43:34teenagers, particularly
- 43:35minority teenagers. And
- 43:36the Davis-Bacon Act
- 43:37discriminated against
- 43:38blacks in construction
- 43:39work. It was Walter's
- 43:41controversial minimum wage
- 43:42study that helped launch
- 43:44the more public side of
- 43:46his career. Requests for
- 43:48radio and television
- 43:49appearances increased. And
- 43:51our nation benefits to the
- 43:53extent that these people
- 43:55come here and work. ...the
- 43:57study on youth and
- 43:58minority unemployment I
- 43:59got invitations to testify
- 44:02in congress on various
- 44:05aspects of labor economics
- 44:07and other topics as well;
- 44:08on taxation, on welfare,
- 44:11and I used to get in some
- 44:13very, very kind of nasty
- 44:16arguments with
- 44:17congressmen, because I
- 44:19don't have the level of
- 44:21respect for congressmen
- 44:23that many people have. In
- 44:251978, Walter began a study
- 44:28on the negative effects of
- 44:29occupational and business
- 44:31licensing. It becomes a
- 44:33major part of his first
- 44:34book, The State against
- 44:36Blacks. If you take a
- 44:37poor, illiterate Italian
- 44:40in 1920s, and if he wanted
- 44:41to get into the taxi cab
- 44:43business, all he had to do
- 44:44was buy a used car and
- 44:46write the word "taxi" on
- 44:47it. And lo and behold, he
- 44:48was in business, making
- 44:49money. Today, it's
- 44:51entirely different. Unlike
- 44:53the early 20th century,
- 44:55many cities today restrict
- 44:57the number of taxis by
- 44:59requiring each taxi to
- 45:00have a medallion. The
- 45:02cities keep the number of
- 45:03medallions strictly
- 45:05limited. A taxi medallion
- 45:08in Philadelphia currently
- 45:09costs $400,000, similar to
- 45:12what it costs in Boston or
- 45:14Chicago. In New York City,
- 45:17a medallion costs an
- 45:19individual over $700,000,
- 45:21with a corporate medallion
- 45:22topping in at one million
- 45:24dollars. In 1937, one
- 45:27could buy an original taxi
- 45:28medallion in New York City
- 45:30for $10.
- 45:32The price of a medallion, or the
- 45:34price of any license,
- 45:35it reflects the value
- 45:39that the owner of the license places on
- 45:43being in a government
- 45:44protected monopoly market.
- 45:46Because if the government
- 45:47said anybody could get
- 45:48into the cab business,
- 45:50allow anybody, well then
- 45:52the price of a license
- 45:53would be zero. It wouldn't
- 45:54be worth anything. It
- 45:56leads to higher prices,
- 45:58and so the consumer is
- 45:59hurt. And it leads to
- 46:02outsiders not being able
- 46:05to get in. And that's the
- 46:06whole point of the
- 46:07medallion system is to
- 46:09keep insiders in, and
- 46:11outsiders out. As an
- 46:13American, Walter's beliefs
- 46:15spring from his deep love
- 46:17for the United States
- 46:18Constitution and his
- 46:20abiding respect for the
- 46:21rule of law. For him, the
- 46:24promise of the Founding
- 46:25Fathers to "promote the
- 46:27general welfare" and
- 46:28"secure the blessings of
- 46:30liberty" has been ignored.
- 46:32Americans have lost their
- 46:34love for the United States
- 46:36Constitution. And I
- 46:38believe that either
- 46:39they're ignorant, or they
- 46:40have contempt for the
- 46:42United States
- 46:43Constitution. Ignorance is
- 46:45curable, but contempt is not.
- 46:50Walter speaks to the
- 46:51"just powers" of
- 46:52government with another
- 46:53champion of the
- 46:54Constitution, Senior Judge
- 46:56on the United States Court
- 46:57of Appeals, Douglas Ginsburg.
- 46:59I've said on many
- 47:00occasions that the
- 47:03Supreme Court does not
- 47:05uphold and defend the
- 47:06United States Constitution.
- 47:09Which is your complaint- that the
- 47:10Court isn't upholding the
- 47:11Constitution, or that they
- 47:12shouldn't have a role?
- 47:14In 1794, Congress
- 47:16appropriated $15,000 to
- 47:17help some French refugees,
- 47:19and James Madison stood on
- 47:21the floor of the House,
- 47:22irate, and he says, "I
- 47:23cannot undertake to lay my
- 47:24finger on that article in
- 47:26the Constitution that
- 47:28authorizes congress to
- 47:29spend the money of their
- 47:30constituents for the
- 47:31purposes of benevolence.
- 47:32But if you look at the
- 47:33federal budget today,
- 47:342/3rds of it is for the
- 47:36purpose of benevolence,
- 47:38and any politician who
- 47:39would make a similar
- 47:41statement, he'd get run
- 47:42out of office today.
- 47:44On the surface it's benevolence
- 47:45because it's a benefit,
- 47:47a gift, but it's also
- 47:48enchainment, enslavement,
- 47:50because it makes people
- 47:54dependent on the federal
- 47:55government. The
- 47:56Constitution, Article one,
- 47:58Section Eight, enumerates
- 47:59the powers of the federal
- 48:00government, and the
- 48:02federal government has
- 48:04gone, congress has gone
- 48:07far beyond those
- 48:08enumerated powers I think
- 48:10the root of that
- 48:11problem...I don't know if
- 48:12you agree with this, is
- 48:13that the direct election
- 48:14of senators. When the
- 48:16senators were elected by
- 48:17the state legislatures,
- 48:19they represented the state
- 48:20as an entity in the
- 48:21federal government. No one
- 48:22does that any more. That's
- 48:24right. Yeah. And so, the
- 48:25federal government has
- 48:26created more and more
- 48:27authority and the states
- 48:30aren't there to object.
- 48:31Yeah. Yeah. And...and the
- 48:32states cannot do anything
- 48:33about it. It's water over
- 48:35the dam. There's no way to
- 48:38undo that one, unless
- 48:39people all of a sudden
- 48:41decide they weren't
- 48:43interested in having
- 48:44power. (Laughs) Are
- 48:45Americans any way
- 48:46basically different from
- 48:47the Romans, from the
- 48:49French, from the Spanish,
- 48:50from Portuguese, from the
- 48:52British? And these are
- 48:53great empires of the past,
- 48:55but they went down the
- 48:56tubes, for almost what
- 48:59we're doing today. And so,
- 49:01what is there about our
- 49:03country that's going to
- 49:04make American people any
- 49:06different? Pete Seeger
- 49:07wrote a song- was actually
- 49:09a union song, but the
- 49:10refrain was, "liberty is a
- 49:12hard-won thing, and every
- 49:14generation got to win it
- 49:15over again." And that's
- 49:18true, otherwise it
- 49:19languishes and then it's
- 49:20gone. Much of what Walter
- 49:23Williams has achieved in
- 49:24life has been the result
- 49:25of hard work and
- 49:27sacrifice. But luck and
- 49:29chance have also been on
- 49:30his side. What if he had
- 49:33never had a determined and
- 49:34disciplined mother, or
- 49:36tough-minded teachers who,
- 49:38as he says, didn't give a
- 49:40damn about his
- 49:41self-esteem? Suppose he
- 49:43never got a job driving a
- 49:45taxi? It's likely he would
- 49:47never have met Connie.
- 49:49Where would he be now?
- 49:50Where would any American
- 49:53of color be without
- 49:54freedom and opportunity?
- 49:57What then is Walter
- 49:59Williams' legacy? They're
- 50:02going to call him a
- 50:03controversial professor
- 50:04who offended a lot of
- 50:05black people. And they may
- 50:06mention his books, but
- 50:07they won't talk about the
- 50:08profound effect he's had
- 50:09on so many people, black
- 50:11and white, who have read
- 50:12his books and have been
- 50:13inspired by him. Walter is
- 50:15one of the few honest
- 50:16academics. And it's harder
- 50:19to be honest in academia,
- 50:21than almost any other
- 50:22place, with the possible
- 50:23exception of politics. He
- 50:26will be remembered, as he
- 50:27should be remembered, as
- 50:28one of the great
- 50:29economists, a great human
- 50:31being, and one of the most
- 50:33incredible blacks to have
- 50:36come through America in
- 50:38the past 80 years. The
- 50:41mandate in a free society,
- 50:43as Walter understands, is
- 50:46not to give freedom to
- 50:47people who agree with you.
- 50:49The essence of liberty is
- 50:51to allow freedom for
- 50:52people who disagree with
- 50:54you. You can be principled
- 50:56and un-flexing, unbendable
- 50:58with your principles and
- 51:00still be successful. And
- 51:01sometimes you have to
- 51:02stand up, and it's okay if
- 51:04you have to stand alone.
- 51:06And I think that that's, I
- 51:07think that that's an
- 51:08un-intentioned message
- 51:10that he sends. Sometimes
- 51:12you have to stand alone,
- 51:13but at least you're
- 51:14standing up.
- 51:17When he was
- 51:17in high school, he had an
- 51:20English class, and he
- 51:22turned in a research
- 51:23paper. When the teacher
- 51:26passed back the papers,
- 51:28she got to Walter's desk
- 51:29and she tore the paper
- 51:30into four pieces and
- 51:32dropped it on his desk.
- 51:33And she says, "Rewrite the
- 51:34whole paper." And he
- 51:37always pointed out that
- 51:38was one of the most
- 51:39influential teachers of
- 51:40his life, because she
- 51:41didn't make excuses for
- 51:42his failure. She demanded
- 51:44excellence because she
- 51:45believed in him...and
- 51:47that's the key. One of
- 51:49Pops' statements used to
- 51:50be that "Chance and
- 51:52opportunity don't come by
- 51:54very often, but when they
- 51:56do come by, when the
- 51:57opportunity train does
- 51:59come by, don't be in a
- 52:00position of saying, 'Wait,
- 52:02let me go pack my bags.'
- 52:03Always be ready for
- 52:05opportunity."
- 52:12On his website, Walter offers
- 52:13anyone of European descent
- 52:15a proclamation of amnesty
- 52:17and pardon. I, Walter
- 52:19Williams, do declare full
- 52:21and general amnesty and
- 52:23pardon to all persons of
- 52:25European... ...ancestry,
- 52:26for both their own
- 52:27grievances, and those of
- 52:29their forbearers against
- 52:31my people. Therefore, from
- 52:32this day forward,
- 52:34Americans of European
- 52:35ancestry ... ...can stand
- 52:37straight and proud,
- 52:38knowing they are without
- 52:40guilt and thus obliged...
- 52:42...not to act like damn
- 52:44fools in their
- 52:45relationships with
- 52:46Americans of African
- 52:48ancestry. (Laughs) That's
- 52:52wonderful! As my dad says
- 52:55in this proclamation of
- 52:57amnesty and pardon, that's
- 52:58over. Pick yourself up.
- 53:00And it's time to do
- 53:01better, and time to want
- 53:03for better. Walter signs
- 53:05that proclamation on his
- 53:06website, Walter E.
- 53:08Williams, Gracious and
- 53:10Generous Grantor.
- 53:18MUSIC
- 54:04Major funding for Walter
- 54:05Williams, Suffer No Fools
- 54:06was provided by Dunn's
- 54:08Foundation, and Searle
- 54:09Freedom Trust. Additional
- 54:12funding was provided by
- 54:13Beach Foundation, Harvey
- 54:15Cody, Donors Trust, The
- 54:19Hickory Foundation,
- 54:21William Shepard, and The
- 54:22Woodford Foundation for
- 54:24Limited Government.
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