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  1. 0:00The welfare state has done
  2. 0:02to black Americans what
  3. 0:04slavery could not have
  4. 0:05done, Jim Crow and the
  5. 0:08harshest racism could not
  6. 0:10have done - namely to
  7. 0:11destroy the black family.
  8. 0:13Many people believe that
  9. 0:15the route to economic
  10. 0:17power is to have political
  11. 0:20power, and there's
  12. 0:21absolutely no evidence to
  13. 0:23support that. Government
  14. 0:25cannot create a special
  15. 0:28privilege for one
  16. 0:29American, without
  17. 0:31simultaneously creating a
  18. 0:33special disadvantage for
  19. 0:35some other American. The
  20. 0:37phrase, "takes no
  21. 0:38prisoners," should have
  22. 0:39been invented to describe
  23. 0:41Walter Williams. I was a
  24. 0:42radical in terms of the
  25. 0:43civil rights movement. I
  26. 0:45was surely...I was not a
  27. 0:47supporter of Martin Luther
  28. 0:48King, but more a supporter
  29. 0:50of Malcolm X. You don't
  30. 0:52have to scratch your head
  31. 0:54and say, "You know, I
  32. 0:55wonder what Walter's
  33. 0:56really saying, what he
  34. 0:58really means?" I am very,
  35. 0:59very happy that I got
  36. 1:02virtually all of my
  37. 1:03education before it became
  38. 1:05fashionable for white
  39. 1:06people to like black
  40. 1:08people. Does the country
  41. 1:09need more people like
  42. 1:10Walter Williams? More
  43. 1:11people who are
  44. 1:12intellectually honest,
  45. 1:14intellectually rigorous,
  46. 1:16tell it like it is and
  47. 1:17don't engage in group
  48. 1:18thinking? I don't see how
  49. 1:20we could have too many,
  50. 1:21too many Walter Williams'.
  51. 1:31Major funding for Walter Williams
  52. 1:33Suffer No Fools was provided by
  53. 1:35Dunn's Foundation, and
  54. 1:37Searle Freedom Trust.
  55. 1:39Additional funding was
  56. 1:41provided by Beach
  57. 1:42Foundation, Harvey Cody,
  58. 1:44Donors Trust, The Hickory
  59. 1:47Foundation, William
  60. 1:48Shepard, and The Woodford
  61. 1:50Foundation for Limited
  62. 1:51Government.
  63. 1:58Walter Williams begins his day
  64. 2:00early - before most are
  65. 2:02out of bed. His enthusiasm
  66. 2:04for life is based on sound
  67. 2:06advice he received as a
  68. 2:08young man...learn to come
  69. 2:09early and stay late- and
  70. 2:13always be ready when the
  71. 2:14opportunity train comes
  72. 2:16along.
  73. 2:23If there's one
  74. 2:24great thing that can be
  75. 2:26said about the United
  76. 2:27States, just because you
  77. 2:29know where a person ends
  78. 2:32up in life, you can't be
  79. 2:34sure about where he
  80. 2:35started. Black Americans
  81. 2:39have made the greatest
  82. 2:40gains over some of the
  83. 2:42highest hurdles, in the
  84. 2:43shortest period of time,
  85. 2:45than any racial group in
  86. 2:47the history of mankind.
  87. 2:49Now the question before us
  88. 2:50is: how can we make these
  89. 2:52gains available to a large
  90. 2:56percentage of the black
  91. 2:57community for whom they
  92. 2:59appear to be elusive?
  93. 3:04He is an author, educator and
  94. 3:07syndicated columnist. His
  95. 3:09provocative ideas and
  96. 3:10infectious humor have
  97. 3:12attracted leaders in
  98. 3:13business and
  99. 3:14government...and millions
  100. 3:16of Americans who have come
  101. 3:18to share his views on
  102. 3:19radio and television. He
  103. 3:22has been called
  104. 3:22"outrageous" and
  105. 3:23"impossible," because he
  106. 3:25believes so deeply in the
  107. 3:26American constitution and
  108. 3:28in America.
  109. 3:31This morning,
  110. 3:31Walter Williams will make
  111. 3:33the drive from his
  112. 3:34suburban home in
  113. 3:35Philadelphia to the campus
  114. 3:36of George Mason University
  115. 3:38in Fairfax, Virginia, to
  116. 3:40do what he has done for
  117. 3:41more than 45 years- teach
  118. 3:44economics. When I go to my
  119. 3:46grocer and I buy a gallon
  120. 3:49of milk for three dollars
  121. 3:51I say, "Look, if you will
  122. 3:55give me title to that
  123. 3:59gallon of milk, I will
  124. 4:02give you title to this
  125. 4:04three dollars." I will
  126. 4:05exchange these titles. So,
  127. 4:08the essence of exchange is
  128. 4:11the transfer of property
  129. 4:13rights. Teaching is a
  130. 4:16passion for Walter
  131. 4:17Williams. He continues to
  132. 4:18believe the young people
  133. 4:19in his classroom are
  134. 4:20America's best hope for
  135. 4:22the future. I've learned a
  136. 4:24lot from Dr. Williams in
  137. 4:26that, you can tell that he
  138. 4:28approaches the ideas of
  139. 4:30liberty and private
  140. 4:31property and free markets
  141. 4:33from a moral perspective.
  142. 4:35And for me, that is
  143. 4:36incredibly important. The
  144. 4:38reason why slavery is
  145. 4:40immoral, or rape, or
  146. 4:42murder is immoral, because
  147. 4:44it violates private
  148. 4:45property. And so, if you
  149. 4:48start with the idea of
  150. 4:50self-ownership then you
  151. 4:51can say, "Well, what is
  152. 4:52moral and what is
  153. 4:53immoral?" The ideas that
  154. 4:56you hear me talk about-
  155. 4:57that people hear me
  156. 4:58discussing when I'm on the
  157. 5:01radio or in my column,
  158. 5:03those ideas- or those
  159. 5:06discussions never reach my
  160. 5:08classroom, because I think
  161. 5:10that it's an academic
  162. 5:12dishonesty to use the
  163. 5:14classroom to proselytize
  164. 5:16students. From his home in
  165. 5:20Philadelphia, Walter
  166. 5:21Williams spends much of
  167. 5:22his time writing his
  168. 5:23nationally syndicated
  169. 5:25column, or another book on
  170. 5:27his favored topics- race
  171. 5:29and economics.
  172. 5:33Buenos tardes Los Angeles! Larry
  173. 5:35Elder here, the sage from
  174. 5:36South Central, the prince
  175. 5:37of Pico Union, the czar
  176. 5:38of... Walter has long
  177. 5:40enjoyed his participation
  178. 5:41on radio and television.
  179. 5:43This is one of the
  180. 5:44problems that black
  181. 5:45Americans face. That is
  182. 5:47many of us...we feel that
  183. 5:49we can achieve salvation
  184. 5:51through the political
  185. 5:52arena, that is by putting
  186. 5:53a black person in charge
  187. 5:55of our lives. And if you
  188. 5:56ask the question, "In what
  189. 5:58cities in our country do
  190. 5:59black people receive the
  191. 6:01worst education, are most
  192. 6:04insecure in their lives,
  193. 6:06live under rotten
  194. 6:07conditions?" They are the
  195. 6:08very cities where a black
  196. 6:10is the mayor, the chief of
  197. 6:12police, the superintendent
  198. 6:13of schools. And I'm not
  199. 6:15saying there is a causal
  200. 6:17relationship between that.
  201. 6:18But I'm saying that
  202. 6:19there's not much salvation
  203. 6:21to be achieved through the
  204. 6:22political arena. My guest
  205. 6:23is Professor Walter
  206. 6:24Williams. He is an
  207. 6:25economics professor,
  208. 6:26teaches at George Mason
  209. 6:28University. If I say to
  210. 6:29the federal government, "I
  211. 6:30will pay my share of the
  212. 6:33constitutional,
  213. 6:34constitutionally mandated
  214. 6:35functions of the federal
  215. 6:36government, I will pay
  216. 6:37happily. But I will not
  217. 6:38have my earnings go to
  218. 6:40farmers, go to bail out
  219. 6:41big banks." You'll see all
  220. 6:42the intimidation, threats
  221. 6:43and oppression... But I
  222. 6:45think America, meets, any,
  223. 6:48any normal person's
  224. 6:49definition of - we are
  225. 6:51living in a free society
  226. 6:52here. This is not Plato's
  227. 6:53Republic. This is not the
  228. 6:55Soviet Union..... We're
  229. 6:56not living in a free
  230. 6:57society. Always
  231. 6:59controversial and popular,
  232. 7:01Walter has inspired
  233. 7:02students and colleagues
  234. 7:03alike. I first was
  235. 7:05introduced to Walter
  236. 7:06Williams when I saw him on
  237. 7:08television. It was in, I
  238. 7:10believe, the spring of
  239. 7:121981. Professor Williams
  240. 7:13is saying, among other
  241. 7:15things, that perhaps the
  242. 7:17Great Society programs,
  243. 7:19and the whole idea of
  244. 7:21government as father or
  245. 7:23paternal, has not been in
  246. 7:24the best interests of - of
  247. 7:25all people... minorities.
  248. 7:26And then Walter said a
  249. 7:29statement that I will
  250. 7:30never forget. He said to
  251. 7:33Phil Donahue, he said,
  252. 7:34"Phil, who owns you? Who
  253. 7:36owns your life?" Said John
  254. 7:39Locke, asked this question
  255. 7:40centuries ago, and I ask
  256. 7:42you and everybody in this
  257. 7:43audience, "Who owns your
  258. 7:44life?" Right then and
  259. 7:47there I said, "Oh, I love
  260. 7:48this guy. Who is this
  261. 7:50guy?" I didn't know who he
  262. 7:51was. I didn't even know
  263. 7:52his name at the time. And
  264. 7:53they flashed Dr. Walter
  265. 7:54Williams, George Mason
  266. 7:55University under, under
  267. 7:57his picture on the TV. And
  268. 7:59that night I then called
  269. 8:02Walter. I called the
  270. 8:03department, and I said,
  271. 8:04"Can I speak to Walter
  272. 8:05Williams?" And he was
  273. 8:06there in his office. And I
  274. 8:08said, "I want to study
  275. 8:09economics under you." So
  276. 8:11food stamps cause
  277. 8:12illegitimate babies then?
  278. 8:14No, no...no. Sexual
  279. 8:16intercourse does.
  280. 8:17AUDIENCE APPLAUSE...LAUGHTER
  281. 8:21MUSIC
  282. 8:34Walter E. Williams - claiming the
  283. 8:36"E" stands for excellence-
  284. 8:39was born in Philadelphia
  285. 8:40in 1936. He spent his
  286. 8:43early boyhood with his
  287. 8:44mother and his sister
  288. 8:45Catherine. In 1947, the
  289. 8:50family moved into the
  290. 8:51Richard Allen housing
  291. 8:52project in North
  292. 8:53Philadelphia, one of the
  293. 8:54city's first federally
  294. 8:56funded housing projects
  295. 8:57for working-class
  296. 8:58families. My mother was
  297. 9:02very, very important. She
  298. 9:05was the one who made the
  299. 9:06sacrifices to make sure
  300. 9:08that we got a reasonably
  301. 9:10good education given our
  302. 9:11income, given our
  303. 9:12circumstances. Even though
  304. 9:14we were poor, my mother
  305. 9:17used to always tell us,
  306. 9:19"Look, we have a beer
  307. 9:21pocketbook, but we have
  308. 9:22champagne taste." Walter's
  309. 9:24father was largely absent
  310. 9:26and offered almost no
  311. 9:27financial support. With
  312. 9:29the little he did provide,
  313. 9:31and Catherine Williams'
  314. 9:32part-time job as a
  315. 9:33domestic servant, the
  316. 9:35family got by. They were
  317. 9:37part of the welfare state,
  318. 9:39but they were never a part
  319. 9:40of the welfare ideology.
  320. 9:42She and her sisters were
  321. 9:44very determined people,
  322. 9:46and demanded a whole lot
  323. 9:48out of us as kids. At that
  324. 9:50time, blacks were very
  325. 9:52demanding of their
  326. 9:53children in terms of
  327. 9:54education and
  328. 9:55responsibility. I think
  329. 9:57part of the reason that my
  330. 9:59dad is who he is has a lot
  331. 10:01to do with her, and his
  332. 10:03upbringing with her. One
  333. 10:05of the reasons she's kind
  334. 10:06of inspirational for him
  335. 10:08is because she did a lot
  336. 10:09with the little that she
  337. 10:10had. There were different
  338. 10:12values of hard work and
  339. 10:15sacrifice and respect.
  340. 10:17And, and, many of those
  341. 10:18values are absent today
  342. 10:20among Americans in
  343. 10:21general, and very often,
  344. 10:24and even more so among
  345. 10:26young Americans who are
  346. 10:27black. This is Parish Drive.
  347. 10:29Okay. Where at least
  348. 10:32one of the streets that
  349. 10:34went into the projects.
  350. 10:35And it was much different
  351. 10:37then. That is, there
  352. 10:38wasn't the kind of the
  353. 10:39crime. There wasn't the
  354. 10:41broken families. Matter of
  355. 10:42fact, my sister and I were
  356. 10:43the only kids in this
  357. 10:45whole neighborhood that
  358. 10:46only had one parent in the
  359. 10:47house. Yeah, I'm sure
  360. 10:48that's not the case now.
  361. 10:49Walter's grandmother was
  362. 10:50the daughter of slaves.
  363. 10:52His mother never graduated
  364. 10:53from high school. Still,
  365. 10:55Catherine Williams
  366. 10:56introduced her son and
  367. 10:57daughter to as much
  368. 10:58culture as her pocketbook
  369. 11:00would allow. On weekends,
  370. 11:03she would take her
  371. 11:04children to the
  372. 11:05Philadelphia Museum of
  373. 11:06Art...the Free
  374. 11:07Library...and the Franklin
  375. 11:09institute. I was the first
  376. 11:10in the family to graduate
  377. 11:11from high school, but I
  378. 11:12wasn't always serious in
  379. 11:15school. I remember the
  380. 11:16counselor told my mother,
  381. 11:18"As soon as he gets this
  382. 11:20foolishness out of him,
  383. 11:21he's really going to go
  384. 11:22somewhere."
  385. 11:25One of the
  386. 11:26rather remarkable
  387. 11:27differences between I
  388. 11:29guess today, among many,
  389. 11:30many black Americans than
  390. 11:32of yesteryear, is that
  391. 11:34well, in yesteryear we
  392. 11:36could not dream of having
  393. 11:37all the material things
  394. 11:39that are available to poor
  395. 11:40people today. We're no
  396. 11:42longer looking at problems
  397. 11:44of poverty defined in
  398. 11:46terms of money. We are
  399. 11:48looking at a kind of
  400. 11:50poverty, and I think it's
  401. 11:51similar to what Walter
  402. 11:53refers to it as spiritual
  403. 11:54poverty, in which there
  404. 11:56has been a loss of a
  405. 11:58vision of what constitutes
  406. 12:00a good life. And what I
  407. 12:02mean by spiritual poverty
  408. 12:04is where people lack the
  409. 12:06ambition. They've
  410. 12:07developed the ideas of
  411. 12:08dependency, and they're
  412. 12:12engaging in all kinds of
  413. 12:13pathological behaviors,
  414. 12:17such as the high
  415. 12:18illegitimacy rate where
  416. 12:2070-some percent of black
  417. 12:21kids are born out of
  418. 12:22wedlock. And it was like,
  419. 12:24in 1940, it was only 13
  420. 12:26percent.
  421. 12:28Once you've reached that stage,
  422. 12:30you've got to change the culture
  423. 12:32before you can solve the problem.
  424. 12:35Daniel Patrick
  425. 12:36Moynihan was United States
  426. 12:37assistant secretary of
  427. 12:39labor in 1965. His
  428. 12:42controversial Moynihan
  429. 12:43Report helped stimulate
  430. 12:45President Lyndon Johnson's
  431. 12:46"War on Poverty." There
  432. 12:48are health districts in
  433. 12:49New York City, where for
  434. 12:50every thousand children,
  435. 12:51781 are living on welfare.
  436. 12:54The illegitimacy ratios in
  437. 12:56the city- in some of the
  438. 12:59slums is up now towards 50
  439. 13:01percent. Half the children
  440. 13:03born are illegitimate, and
  441. 13:05we don't understand that.
  442. 13:07The irony is, the people
  443. 13:08who do that are
  444. 13:09congratulating themselves
  445. 13:10to this day for having
  446. 13:11created the welfare state,
  447. 13:13with no thought about what
  448. 13:14were...what was the
  449. 13:16collateral damage? And
  450. 13:17were the small things that
  451. 13:20you were able to do for
  452. 13:21people worth that damage?
  453. 13:23What we find is the basic
  454. 13:25economic principle, and
  455. 13:27that is, if you tax
  456. 13:29something you're going to
  457. 13:30get less of it, and if you
  458. 13:31subsidize it, you're going
  459. 13:33to get more of it. And
  460. 13:34what we've been doing is
  461. 13:35subsidizing slovenly behavior.
  462. 13:43In the 1940s,
  463. 13:44almost any youngster,
  464. 13:46black or white, who wanted
  465. 13:48to work, found a job. At
  466. 13:50the age of ten, Walter was
  467. 13:52shining shoes. In high
  468. 13:54school, he delivered mail
  469. 13:56and packed shipping orders
  470. 13:57for the Sears Roebuck
  471. 13:58department store. If I
  472. 14:00wanted to go to the
  473. 14:01movies, or if I wanted to
  474. 14:04go to the amusement park,
  475. 14:07there was no money from my
  476. 14:08mother to give us to go to
  477. 14:09the amusement park, and so
  478. 14:11we had to work. One of
  479. 14:15Walter's favorite jobs was
  480. 14:17at the Horn & Hardart
  481. 14:18Automat, in the heart of
  482. 14:19downtown Philadelphia.
  483. 14:21Once the world's largest
  484. 14:23restaurant chain, the
  485. 14:24automat, with its iconic
  486. 14:25coin operated machines was
  487. 14:27America's original fast
  488. 14:29food restaurant. I thought
  489. 14:31that Horn and Hardart's
  490. 14:32was a wonderful job. Horn
  491. 14:35and Hardart was a very,
  492. 14:37very famous restaurant in
  493. 14:38Philadelphia, and the good
  494. 14:39thing about working at
  495. 14:40Horn and Hardart's was
  496. 14:42here I am, 14 or 15 years
  497. 14:43old, you could eat all you
  498. 14:45want. And the way to an
  499. 14:47adolescent's heart is by
  500. 14:51giving them lots of food.
  501. 14:54Walter's first real job
  502. 14:56was at the U-Needa-Hat
  503. 14:57Company, where he taught
  504. 14:59himself to operate an
  505. 15:00electric sewing machine.
  506. 15:02When a seamstress found
  507. 15:03out he was on the payroll,
  508. 15:05she complained that the
  509. 15:06owner was in violation of
  510. 15:07child labor laws. There
  511. 15:09was a visit from the
  512. 15:10Department of Labor... and
  513. 15:12Walter was fired. During
  514. 15:14the time, I thought the
  515. 15:15Labor Department was on my
  516. 15:17side because they're, I
  517. 15:18said they're really trying
  518. 15:20to get more money for me.
  519. 15:22But after the fact, when
  520. 15:24I'd lost my job, I found
  521. 15:25that they're not really on
  522. 15:26my side at all. Much
  523. 15:31later, in 1985, Walter
  524. 15:33protested labor laws like
  525. 15:35the minimum wage in his
  526. 15:36first public television
  527. 15:38documentary, Good
  528. 15:39Intentions. Today, in
  529. 15:42ghettos like I grew up in,
  530. 15:4470 percent of black
  531. 15:46children who look for
  532. 15:47jobs, cannot find them.
  533. 15:49That's a shame because a
  534. 15:51first job means much more
  535. 15:53than pocket change. It's a
  536. 15:54chance for a start, maybe
  537. 15:56in a store like this. Most
  538. 15:58of the kids that you give
  539. 15:59jobs to, they hold them
  540. 16:00for a long period of time.
  541. 16:02And I wish I could give
  542. 16:04more kids jobs, because I
  543. 16:06have kids constantly
  544. 16:07coming up to me and asking
  545. 16:09me for jobs. They're even
  546. 16:11more important for kids
  547. 16:12who grow up in broken
  548. 16:14homes, who've gone to
  549. 16:15rotten schools, because if
  550. 16:16they're going to learn
  551. 16:18anything that will make
  552. 16:19them a more valuable
  553. 16:20worker in the future,
  554. 16:22they're not going to learn
  555. 16:23it in their neighborhoods.
  556. 16:25They're not going to learn
  557. 16:26in their schools. So they
  558. 16:28have to learn it on the
  559. 16:30job. And what the Minimum
  560. 16:32Wage Law does, it nixes
  561. 16:34that learning. Starting in
  562. 16:351961, congress began to
  563. 16:37push the minimum wage
  564. 16:38higher. In effect, the law
  565. 16:39forced teenagers to ask
  566. 16:41for more than they were
  567. 16:42worth. Most people are
  568. 16:44unaware, in 1948- black 16
  569. 16:47and 17 year olds had an
  570. 16:49unemployment rate just
  571. 16:51under 10 percent. They
  572. 16:52were not to get down that
  573. 16:55low again, in even the
  574. 16:57most prosperous years in
  575. 16:58the 60s, 70s or any time,
  576. 17:00right up to the present
  577. 17:02moment. A lot of people
  578. 17:04say, "Well, the minimum
  579. 17:06wage is an anti-poverty
  580. 17:07device." Well, that is
  581. 17:09utter nonsense. It doesn't
  582. 17:11even pass the smell-test.
  583. 17:13Because if it were an
  584. 17:15anti-poverty device, well
  585. 17:17then, instead of spending
  586. 17:18all this money on foreign
  587. 17:19aid, we just have our
  588. 17:21experts at the State
  589. 17:22Department tell
  590. 17:23Bangladesh, "Well you
  591. 17:25could be rich like we are,
  592. 17:27just have a higher minimum
  593. 17:28wage."
  594. 17:34In 1958, Walter's
  595. 17:36mother remarried, and for
  596. 17:38Walter that was good news.
  597. 17:41She married her childhood
  598. 17:43sweetheart, and his name
  599. 17:44was Thomas Burchett. And
  600. 17:46we called him Pops. He
  601. 17:48became a father that I
  602. 17:50never had. And then he
  603. 17:52taught me responsibility.
  604. 17:54There are so many lessons
  605. 17:56that my dad continued
  606. 17:57through Pops, through me.
  607. 18:01It's those lessons that
  608. 18:02his Pops taught him that
  609. 18:05made him a better man.
  610. 18:07Walter graduates from high
  611. 18:08school, and registers for
  612. 18:10two night classes at
  613. 18:11Temple University. To pay
  614. 18:13the bill he goes to work
  615. 18:15driving a taxi, and that
  616. 18:17changes his life. Through
  617. 18:19another driver, he meets
  618. 18:21an attractive young woman
  619. 18:22destined to become Mrs.
  620. 18:25Walter Williams. She was a
  621. 18:27wonderful person, and she
  622. 18:28was very, very good for
  623. 18:30me. She, as Walter, had a
  624. 18:32great sense of herself.
  625. 18:33She was a pleasure to be
  626. 18:35around, and she didn't
  627. 18:36take any stuff from
  628. 18:38Walter. I loved the
  629. 18:40relationship between
  630. 18:41Connie and Walter because
  631. 18:43she really kept him under
  632. 18:44control, and he really
  633. 18:46enjoyed it. She was a very
  634. 18:48level-headed person. I
  635. 18:50suppose she would have to
  636. 18:51be...and very discerning.
  637. 18:54And not at all like so
  638. 18:57many people that you meet,
  639. 18:58who are trying to show off
  640. 19:01how smart they are. She
  641. 19:02was an older woman. She
  642. 19:03was three years older than
  643. 19:05I and a little more
  644. 19:08worldly than I. But she
  645. 19:11was very, very effective
  646. 19:14at giving me some of her
  647. 19:16skills for getting along
  648. 19:18with people, because I did
  649. 19:19not get along that well
  650. 19:20with people. We became
  651. 19:22instantaneous friends. She
  652. 19:25was smart, and like I
  653. 19:26said, she handles Walter
  654. 19:27beautifully. My mom taught
  655. 19:30my dad how to behave,
  656. 19:32really. And not so much
  657. 19:34that he didn't know how to
  658. 19:35interact with people, he
  659. 19:37did. When you're with a
  660. 19:39man with that intellect,
  661. 19:41sometimes wives tend to be
  662. 19:42a little reticent...not
  663. 19:44Connie. They would, you
  664. 19:46know, go to parties and he
  665. 19:48would be arrogant. And
  666. 19:50they would come home and
  667. 19:51he would get a scolding,
  668. 19:52saying "You know, you
  669. 19:53can't talk to people like
  670. 19:54that." is what my mom
  671. 19:55would say. "If you want to
  672. 19:56be friends with someone,
  673. 19:57you don't have to prove
  674. 19:58you're the smartest person
  675. 19:59in the room. People will
  676. 20:00know just by having
  677. 20:02conversation with you."
  678. 20:04Conchetta Taylor was born
  679. 20:05the youngest of eleven
  680. 20:06children. She was three
  681. 20:08years old when her mother
  682. 20:09died, leaving her father
  683. 20:11to care for his large and
  684. 20:13very poor family.
  685. 20:15Sometimes they would go
  686. 20:16into an abandoned house,
  687. 20:19and he could jerry-rig the
  688. 20:21electricity so that they
  689. 20:23would have some
  690. 20:24electricity and some heat
  691. 20:27maybe, until they were
  692. 20:28discovered and they had to
  693. 20:29move. Their relationship
  694. 20:31developed quickly and
  695. 20:33Connie urged him to
  696. 20:34fashion a plan for his
  697. 20:35future. Walter decided
  698. 20:38they would move to
  699. 20:39California where he wanted
  700. 20:40to finish college. It is
  701. 20:451958, and America is still
  702. 20:48drafting able-bodied men
  703. 20:49in the armed forces. Even
  704. 20:52Elvis Presley had to put
  705. 20:53his career on hold, and by
  706. 20:55the next summer, Walter
  707. 20:57too, would be drafted into
  708. 20:58Uncle Sam's army.
  709. 21:00Sometimes I don't call it
  710. 21:01drafting- my labor
  711. 21:02services were confiscated
  712. 21:04by the United States
  713. 21:05government. And I just had
  714. 21:07to put off everything that
  715. 21:08I had planned on doing to
  716. 21:10spend two years in the
  717. 21:12army. Walter's stepfather
  718. 21:15"Pops" was a tech sergeant
  719. 21:17during World War II. He
  720. 21:19had some sound advice for
  721. 21:20the young man. "Being in
  722. 21:22the army is a million
  723. 21:24dollar experience that you
  724. 21:26wouldn't take a million
  725. 21:27dollars to do again." He
  726. 21:30had no idea how right Pops
  727. 21:32was. Walter boarded a bus
  728. 21:34that would take him to
  729. 21:35boot camp in the Deep
  730. 21:36South. It was only the
  731. 21:38beginning of a long and
  732. 21:40difficult journey. My
  733. 21:42first experience with open
  734. 21:44discrimination and
  735. 21:46segregation was while I
  736. 21:48was on my way reporting to
  737. 21:49Fort Stewart, Georgia. And
  738. 21:51I looked up and saw a sign
  739. 21:54saying, "Colored Waiting
  740. 21:56Room." There was
  741. 21:58discrimination in
  742. 21:59Philadelphia, but there
  743. 22:01weren't the open signs
  744. 22:02saying, "Colored waiting
  745. 22:04room, colored bathroom,
  746. 22:05colored water fountain." I
  747. 22:08was just in shock, because
  748. 22:09I'd never seen that being
  749. 22:10born and raised in
  750. 22:11Philadelphia. In 1948,
  751. 22:15President Harry Truman
  752. 22:16by-passed congress to end
  753. 22:18"official" segregation in
  754. 22:19the American armed forces
  755. 22:21with an executive order.
  756. 22:23But for Walter, the order
  757. 22:25was meaningless. Truman's
  758. 22:27desegregation of the army
  759. 22:29was to eliminate separate
  760. 22:33divisions, like black
  761. 22:35companies and white
  762. 22:38companies. But
  763. 22:39nonetheless,
  764. 22:40discrimination and
  765. 22:42segregation remained. One
  766. 22:44obvious form of
  767. 22:45discrimination in the
  768. 22:46military was the
  769. 22:47assignment of menial jobs
  770. 22:48to blacks. Walter was sent
  771. 22:51to the motor pool to wash
  772. 22:52military vehicles. When he
  773. 22:54was ordered to paint a
  774. 22:55two-and-a-half-ton truck,
  775. 22:57he knew full well the
  776. 22:58officer meant only the
  777. 23:00flatbed. By the time he
  778. 23:02got to the tires- he was
  779. 23:03stopped. And so he says,
  780. 23:06"Soldier, what in the hell
  781. 23:07are you doing?" I said,
  782. 23:08"I'm painting the truck,
  783. 23:09sir." He said, "You don't
  784. 23:11do it that way." I said,
  785. 23:11"You said the whole
  786. 23:12truck." I was using my
  787. 23:14best Stepin Fetchit
  788. 23:15routine. ...exactly
  789. 23:19nervous...I just generally
  790. 23:21falls to pieces around
  791. 23:22polices... Hi, once again
  792. 23:25this is Dick Clark,
  793. 23:26welcoming you back to
  794. 23:27American Bandstand.
  795. 23:30Walter's troublemaking
  796. 23:31doesn't end with the
  797. 23:32truck. He stirs up white
  798. 23:33soldiers, telling them he
  799. 23:34saw his white girlfriend
  800. 23:35dancing on TV's American
  801. 23:37Bandstand, and organizes
  802. 23:39black soldiers to attend a
  803. 23:40segregated dance...on the
  804. 23:42wrong night. He becomes
  805. 23:43more and more unpopular,
  806. 23:45not only with the officers
  807. 23:46and his peers, but with
  808. 23:47some of the black
  809. 23:48soldiers. They used to say
  810. 23:50things like, "We had our
  811. 23:51own senators, we have our
  812. 23:54own churches, our own
  813. 23:55stores, and it's people
  814. 23:57like you from the North
  815. 23:58that's coming down here
  816. 24:00causing problems. And in
  817. 24:02fact, many of the white
  818. 24:04soldiers told me, "Don't
  819. 24:05come off the base." The
  820. 24:08targets of the Nashville
  821. 24:09students were the lunch
  822. 24:10counters of the city's two
  823. 24:11largest department stores,
  824. 24:13and four variety stores.
  825. 24:15And for the first time,
  826. 24:17the community was
  827. 24:18confronted with Negroes in
  828. 24:19places where they had
  829. 24:21never been. It is 1960.
  830. 24:25America has entered a new
  831. 24:27phase of the civil rights
  832. 24:28movement. Black college
  833. 24:30students are staging
  834. 24:31"sit-ins" at segregated
  835. 24:32lunch counters, waiting
  836. 24:34rooms and government
  837. 24:35offices throughout the
  838. 24:36South. They come in, and
  839. 24:38they sit down and we're
  840. 24:40not used to them sitting
  841. 24:41down beside us- because I
  842. 24:42wasn't raised with them. I
  843. 24:43never have lived with
  844. 24:44them, and I'm not going to
  845. 24:45start now. Inspired by
  846. 24:47blatant displays of
  847. 24:48bigotry on
  848. 24:49television, Walter's
  849. 24:50troublemaking continues.
  850. 24:52One of the menial jobs he
  851. 24:53is ordered to do is sweep
  852. 24:55out battalion headquarters
  853. 24:56and run errands. That is
  854. 24:58when he discovers the head
  855. 24:59clerk at battalion
  856. 25:00headquarters is up for a
  857. 25:02discharge. I asked the
  858. 25:03sergeant major could I
  859. 25:04have his job. And so the
  860. 25:06sergeant major laughed,
  861. 25:07and he had been briefed
  862. 25:08about me. And so he said,
  863. 25:10"You probably couldn't
  864. 25:11figure out the job." And
  865. 25:13so I said, "Well, give me
  866. 25:14a chance." And so he said,
  867. 25:16"Well, okay type this."
  868. 25:17I typed it, and I corrected
  869. 25:20some errors in it, and I
  870. 25:21handed it back to him, and
  871. 25:23so I convinced him that I
  872. 25:27could do the job. Being
  873. 25:30the court recorder I
  874. 25:31learned a whole lot about
  875. 25:32military law. And that
  876. 25:34helped me out very well
  877. 25:35when I was
  878. 25:36court-martialed. Private
  879. 25:38Walter Williams was served
  880. 25:40his summary court-martial
  881. 25:42on a trumped-up charge of
  882. 25:44failing to obey a direct
  883. 25:47command. The company
  884. 25:48commander told me to lay
  885. 25:49out a full field
  886. 25:50inspection, and so, I laid
  887. 25:53it out and the sergeant
  888. 25:54told me to put it away.
  889. 25:55And so the company
  890. 25:57commander called me to the
  891. 25:58office and asked me how
  892. 25:59come I didn't lay out the
  893. 26:00full field inspection? And
  894. 26:02I told him, "I did, but
  895. 26:03the sergeant told me to
  896. 26:04put it away and go to
  897. 26:05work." And so he called
  898. 26:07the sergeant in, and the
  899. 26:08sergeant said he hadn't
  900. 26:09seen me that morning. They
  901. 26:11were really after me. He
  902. 26:13serves as his own defense
  903. 26:14council and is found "not
  904. 26:16guilty of all charges."
  905. 26:18The army brass, knowing
  906. 26:20that Walter is considering
  907. 26:21legal action against his
  908. 26:23captain, orders him to
  909. 26:24finish his duty...in South
  910. 26:26Korea. Before shipping
  911. 26:29out, and not wanting to
  912. 26:31lose Connie, he proposes.
  913. 26:33They're married by the
  914. 26:34Reverend John Logan,
  915. 26:35rector of St. Simon
  916. 26:36Episcopal Church. Unable
  917. 26:39to afford a church
  918. 26:40wedding, Walter accepts
  919. 26:42Reverend Logan's offer to
  920. 26:43perform the ceremony
  921. 26:44across the street in the
  922. 26:46front room of his home.
  923. 26:50In Korea, Walter resumes his
  924. 26:54campaign against
  925. 26:55discrimination. He writes
  926. 26:56letters to his superiors,
  927. 26:57to politicians and to the
  928. 26:59editors of newspapers. The
  929. 27:01Philadelphia Independent
  930. 27:03prints his letter
  931. 27:04detailing racial
  932. 27:05discrimination and shabby
  933. 27:06military practices on its
  934. 27:08front page. I had officers
  935. 27:11that would question me and
  936. 27:12say, what's my agenda? And
  937. 27:14I would say, "In all due
  938. 27:17respect to you, sir, I
  939. 27:18took an oath of office
  940. 27:20when I was drafted into
  941. 27:22the army to uphold and
  942. 27:24defend the United States
  943. 27:25Constitution against its
  944. 27:27enemies, both foreign and
  945. 27:28domestic. And you sir, are
  946. 27:30a domestic enemy of the
  947. 27:32Constitution. As a
  948. 27:33reservist, Walter
  949. 27:34continues to fight for his
  950. 27:36constitutional rights. He
  951. 27:37writes to President John
  952. 27:38Kennedy and asks,
  953. 27:40"...should Negroes be
  954. 27:41relieved of their service
  955. 27:42obligation, or continue
  956. 27:43defending and dying for
  957. 27:45empty promises of freedom
  958. 27:47and equality?" He receives
  959. 27:50a reply from the Assistant
  960. 27:52Secretary of Defense, and
  961. 27:54his assistant calls to
  962. 27:55suggest that he just might
  963. 27:56want to request a hardship
  964. 27:58release from active
  965. 27:59reserve duty. Walter
  966. 28:01followed that advice and
  967. 28:02two years later, in 1965,
  968. 28:05he received an honorable
  969. 28:07discharge. I was
  970. 28:0824-years-old and I said,
  971. 28:10"If I don't get started
  972. 28:12soon...I'm never going to
  973. 28:13be anything. And so, I
  974. 28:16wrote a letter to Connie
  975. 28:18and I said, "Well, as soon
  976. 28:20as we save $700, we're
  977. 28:22going to go to Los
  978. 28:23Angeles, and I'm going to
  979. 28:24go to college." Going to
  980. 28:26Los Angeles was probably
  981. 28:27the second wisest decision
  982. 28:29I made in my life. And the
  983. 28:30first one was to marry Connie.
  984. 28:32MUSIC
  985. 28:43In February 1962,
  986. 28:46Walter enrolls as a
  987. 28:47full-time student at
  988. 28:48California State College,
  989. 28:50Los Angeles. With Connie
  990. 28:52at his side, it seems
  991. 28:54anything is possible. He
  992. 28:56said, "You know, I have to
  993. 28:57do better. I don't want to
  994. 28:59drive a cab until I'm 70."
  995. 29:01And I think because she
  996. 29:02was willing to go with
  997. 29:03him- and willing to
  998. 29:04support him...go to
  999. 29:05California...and she
  1000. 29:06worked full-time his
  1001. 29:08entire time through grad
  1002. 29:10school and under grad. I
  1003. 29:12don't think there is a way
  1004. 29:13that he could have done it
  1005. 29:14by himself. And we were
  1006. 29:16together as a couple,
  1007. 29:18inseparable for close to
  1008. 29:2150 years before she passed
  1009. 29:23away. And I owe a good
  1010. 29:26part of my life character
  1011. 29:29to Connie, because Connie
  1012. 29:32was a civilizing
  1013. 29:33influence. He lost his
  1014. 29:35soul mate and his partner,
  1015. 29:36and the person that he
  1016. 29:38shares everything with.
  1017. 29:40His "beautiful girl," is
  1018. 29:41what he would say. He lost
  1019. 29:42her. And I think that
  1020. 29:45we're both still
  1021. 29:46recovering from that.
  1022. 29:49Their relationship was a
  1023. 29:51certainly loving one. She
  1024. 29:53really, she taught him how
  1025. 29:54to - to love. They lived a
  1026. 29:57modest existence on
  1027. 29:58Connie's paycheck, and
  1028. 29:59Walter was enjoying life
  1029. 30:01as a college student. But
  1030. 30:03the struggle for civil
  1031. 30:04rights could not be
  1032. 30:05ignored. I was a radical
  1033. 30:07in terms of the civil
  1034. 30:08rights movement. I was not
  1035. 30:10a supporter of Martin
  1036. 30:11Luther King, but more a
  1037. 30:13supporter of Malcolm X.
  1038. 30:15And I believe that...that
  1039. 30:17the use of violence and
  1040. 30:20confrontation was far more
  1041. 30:23appropriate than "We shall
  1042. 30:25overcome." The goal of Dr.
  1043. 30:27Martin Luther King is to
  1044. 30:28get Negroes to forgive the
  1045. 30:29people who have brutalized
  1046. 30:31them for 400 years, by
  1047. 30:33lulling them to sleep, and
  1048. 30:34making them forgetting
  1049. 30:35what whites have done to
  1050. 30:37them. I was a sociology
  1051. 30:38major at Cal State LA. I
  1052. 30:40read W.E.B. DuBois' Black
  1053. 30:42Reconstruction. And he was
  1054. 30:45saying that Negroes are
  1055. 30:46not going to achieve any
  1056. 30:48salvation in our country
  1057. 30:49until they understand the
  1058. 30:50economic system. And that
  1059. 30:52convinced me that well- I
  1060. 30:54think I should major in
  1061. 30:55economics. I truly believe
  1062. 30:57that Walter found out,
  1063. 30:59too, is that if you
  1064. 31:00understand economics, you
  1065. 31:01can work your way in this
  1066. 31:02world a lot better. You
  1067. 31:03don't get fooled by
  1068. 31:04politicians or other
  1069. 31:06people. I saw it as a
  1070. 31:08struggle for liberty.
  1071. 31:17The portrayal of blacks as
  1072. 31:18helpless victims of
  1073. 31:19slavery, discrimination
  1074. 31:22and personal violence is a
  1075. 31:24part of our American
  1076. 31:25history. But for Walter,
  1077. 31:27the facts of the matter do
  1078. 31:28not square with that
  1079. 31:29portrayal. Many blacks
  1080. 31:31went to work to earn the
  1081. 31:33money they would need to
  1082. 31:34buy their freedom. One of
  1083. 31:38the big mistakes that we
  1084. 31:40make in terms of looking
  1085. 31:42at black history in the
  1086. 31:43United States is our
  1087. 31:45failure to recognize that
  1088. 31:47blacks did not accept
  1089. 31:49slavery passively. There
  1090. 31:52was a phenomenon called
  1091. 31:55self-hiring, or sometimes
  1092. 31:56they call it quasi-free
  1093. 32:00blacks. One of the more
  1094. 32:01famous quasi-free Negroes
  1095. 32:03was Frederick Douglass.
  1096. 32:04He did ship caulking. He did
  1097. 32:06many other kinds of jobs,
  1098. 32:08and he would go back and
  1099. 32:09give his owner some money.
  1100. 32:11Despite the rhetoric that
  1101. 32:12people use, considering
  1102. 32:15blacks as lower forms of
  1103. 32:18human beings, economics
  1104. 32:19tends to bring people to
  1105. 32:20their senses. Whites were
  1106. 32:23willing to hire blacks.
  1107. 32:24Whites were willing to
  1108. 32:25make purchases from
  1109. 32:26blacks...why? Because
  1110. 32:28either they worked for
  1111. 32:29lower wages, or a higher
  1112. 32:31quality product. And so
  1113. 32:33again... economics tend to
  1114. 32:35bring people to their
  1115. 32:36senses. Over time, blacks
  1116. 32:39struggled to enter the
  1117. 32:40mainstream of American
  1118. 32:41life. They acquired
  1119. 32:43property and personal
  1120. 32:44holdings to the point that
  1121. 32:46DuBois commented: "...it
  1122. 32:47is astonishing how the
  1123. 32:49African has integrated
  1124. 32:50himself into American
  1125. 32:51civilization." In 1853,
  1126. 32:54Frederick Douglass warned
  1127. 32:55his fellow blacks, "Learn
  1128. 32:58trades or starve."
  1129. 33:01Black entrepreneurs began to
  1130. 33:02exploit markets for fellow
  1131. 33:04blacks as well as whites.
  1132. 33:06By the mid-19th century,
  1133. 33:08Thomy Lafon became a real
  1134. 33:09estate dealer in New
  1135. 33:10Orleans. His fortune
  1136. 33:12totaled $8 million dollars
  1137. 33:14in today's money. William
  1138. 33:16H. Brown founded the first
  1139. 33:18black bank in Virginia.
  1140. 33:20Junius G. Groves was born
  1141. 33:22a slave in Kentucky, but
  1142. 33:24when he went to Kansas he
  1143. 33:25became the country's
  1144. 33:26largest individual grower
  1145. 33:28of potatoes. And in
  1146. 33:31Concord, North Carolina,
  1147. 33:33Warren Clay Coleman
  1148. 33:34received financial
  1149. 33:35assistance from wealthy
  1150. 33:36white businessmen to found
  1151. 33:38his Coleman Textile
  1152. 33:39Manufacturing Company. One
  1153. 33:43of the best kept secrets
  1154. 33:45of the 19th century is
  1155. 33:46that blacks were making a
  1156. 33:48lot of progress in the
  1157. 33:49face of obstacles. When
  1158. 33:52whites faced competition
  1159. 33:54from blacks, either as
  1160. 33:56workers or merchants, then
  1161. 34:00they used the political
  1162. 34:01system to rig the economic
  1163. 34:03game. So what do you do?
  1164. 34:05You pass a law that says
  1165. 34:08that you restrict
  1166. 34:10competition, so that all
  1167. 34:11at once it's much more
  1168. 34:13difficult for blacks to
  1169. 34:14have a competitive
  1170. 34:15advantage by being willing
  1171. 34:16to work for lower wages,
  1172. 34:17which historically is how
  1173. 34:19people get ahead.
  1174. 34:19And this is why the
  1175. 34:22people who are for discrimination
  1176. 34:25are also against markets,
  1177. 34:26because they know markets
  1178. 34:28tend to be color blind.
  1179. 34:31CHEERING
  1180. 34:36High school basketball: an
  1181. 34:39opening for a young person
  1182. 34:40of color to take a shot at
  1183. 34:42becoming a professional
  1184. 34:43player. Not long
  1185. 34:45ago...such opportunity did
  1186. 34:47not exist. A long-time fan
  1187. 34:50of basketball, Walter and
  1188. 34:52former NBA referee Steve
  1189. 34:54Javie both know how the
  1190. 34:56free market creates
  1191. 34:57opportunity, without any
  1192. 34:59need for racial
  1193. 35:00preferences. At one time,
  1194. 35:02black Americans were not
  1195. 35:04allowed in professional
  1196. 35:05basketball and football.
  1197. 35:07Well, how did black
  1198. 35:09Americans go from not
  1199. 35:10being in these sports...
  1200. 35:11Right. ... to being the
  1201. 35:14top and dominating them-
  1202. 35:15if it wasn't due to any
  1203. 35:18anti-discriminatory laws,
  1204. 35:19or affirmative action at
  1205. 35:21all? So you say, well, how
  1206. 35:23do you explain it? I think
  1207. 35:25that these guys can just
  1208. 35:27do a 360 slam dunk in your
  1209. 35:29face, and you can't do
  1210. 35:30anything about it. You
  1211. 35:32mean you're saying I can't
  1212. 35:33do it? No you can't.
  1213. 35:34(Laughter)
  1214. 35:36I know you say there wasn't
  1215. 35:37affirmative action. I agree, probably
  1216. 35:39wasn't, it was the fact
  1217. 35:40that they started becoming
  1218. 35:41so good at what they were
  1219. 35:42doing. Well, you couldn't
  1220. 35:43ignore them. Right, but
  1221. 35:45you still had to get the
  1222. 35:46public to accept that.
  1223. 35:48Well, I don't know...in
  1224. 35:49the sense of like when
  1225. 35:50Branch Rickey of the
  1226. 35:53Dodgers, when he hired
  1227. 35:55Jackie Robinson- that was
  1228. 35:57a risk. But once he hired
  1229. 35:59Jackie Robinson, there was
  1230. 36:00this huge pool of black
  1231. 36:02talent... Robinson is the
  1232. 36:04first of his race to be
  1233. 36:06honored with admission
  1234. 36:07into the shrine of the
  1235. 36:08national game. Branch
  1236. 36:09Ricky was known for a long
  1237. 36:10time as someone who had a
  1238. 36:11keen appreciation for the
  1239. 36:13dollar. For him, it would
  1240. 36:15be a bonanza to bring
  1241. 36:16Jackie Robinson into the
  1242. 36:17major leagues. So much
  1243. 36:19that Jackie Robinson was
  1244. 36:20put through was due to the
  1245. 36:22fact that other people
  1246. 36:24understood that once he
  1247. 36:26broke the color line, it
  1248. 36:28was all over. What allowed
  1249. 36:30the race thing to stay as
  1250. 36:32long as it did was the
  1251. 36:33absence of competition.
  1252. 36:34Major League baseball had
  1253. 36:35an exemption from the
  1254. 36:37anti-trust laws. And so,
  1255. 36:39the cartel was safe. They
  1256. 36:41could do whatever they
  1257. 36:42wanted. But once one
  1258. 36:43member of that cartel
  1259. 36:44broke that barrier, then
  1260. 36:47the others would be at an
  1261. 36:48enormous disadvantage
  1262. 36:50within organized baseball,
  1263. 36:51if they didn't also get
  1264. 36:53black players. And of
  1265. 36:54course, they did. In
  1266. 36:57sports, or in the music
  1267. 37:00industry where you see
  1268. 37:01black excellence, you
  1269. 37:02don't see any affirmative
  1270. 37:03action. You don't see any
  1271. 37:05lawsuits. What you do see
  1272. 37:07is excellence.
  1273. 37:15The turmoil of the mid 60s while I was
  1274. 37:18in California, I did not
  1275. 37:22participate in it at all,
  1276. 37:24and the reason why was- I
  1277. 37:27was just too busy. I was
  1278. 37:28working full-time and I
  1279. 37:30was a full-time student at
  1280. 37:32UCLA. And I just could not
  1281. 37:36participate, and then
  1282. 37:37after a while, I just
  1283. 37:39thought it was nonsense.
  1284. 37:41When Walter graduated from
  1285. 37:43Cal State with a BA in
  1286. 37:44economics, one of his
  1287. 37:46professors encouraged him
  1288. 37:47to pursue graduate school.
  1289. 37:50He enrolled in UCLA's
  1290. 37:51program in economics-
  1291. 37:53among the top dozen such
  1292. 37:54programs in the country.
  1293. 37:57Walter was a remarkable
  1294. 37:59presence from the first
  1295. 38:00moment I met him. There
  1296. 38:02was the shark's tooth
  1297. 38:04necklace; the
  1298. 38:06height; the evident energy,
  1299. 38:09and the underlying strength.
  1300. 38:13Plus the rumor that I think he
  1301. 38:15may have helped propagate,
  1302. 38:16that he'd been an enforcer
  1303. 38:18for the Black Panthers.
  1304. 38:20After receiving his
  1305. 38:21master's degree, he lands
  1306. 38:23a part-time teaching job
  1307. 38:24at Los Angeles City
  1308. 38:25College. He would quickly
  1309. 38:27realize he was both
  1310. 38:29teacher...and student. It
  1311. 38:31taught me economics...that
  1312. 38:32is one of the best ways to
  1313. 38:33learn economics is to
  1314. 38:34teach it. And then it
  1315. 38:36taught me that, heck, I
  1316. 38:38really like teaching and
  1317. 38:39I'm going to make this a
  1318. 38:41career. With the help of
  1319. 38:43tough-minded mentors like
  1320. 38:44Armen Alchian and Larry
  1321. 38:46Kimball at UCLA, and his
  1322. 38:48exposure to the works of
  1323. 38:49philosopher/economists
  1324. 38:51like Friedrich Hayek and
  1325. 38:52Milton Friedman, Walter
  1326. 38:54went on to earn his Ph.D.
  1327. 38:56At UCLA they gave me
  1328. 38:58inspiration to think with
  1329. 39:00my brain, instead of my
  1330. 39:03heart. It was probably,
  1331. 39:05maybe the beginning of my
  1332. 39:07switching from one kind of
  1333. 39:09radical to another. With a
  1334. 39:12head full of new ideas,
  1335. 39:13Walter accepts a full-time
  1336. 39:15assistant professorship
  1337. 39:16from Cal State's Economics
  1338. 39:18Department...a long way
  1339. 39:20from the Philadelphia
  1340. 39:21projects. I often tell
  1341. 39:25people that I am very,
  1342. 39:27very happy that I got
  1343. 39:29virtually all of my
  1344. 39:30education before it became
  1345. 39:32fashionable for white
  1346. 39:34people to like black
  1347. 39:35people. So what that meant
  1348. 39:37is that when I got a C, it
  1349. 39:39was an honest-to-God C.
  1350. 39:40When I got an A, it was an
  1351. 39:42honest-to-God A. They
  1352. 39:43weren't practicing
  1353. 39:44affirmative action, and
  1354. 39:45they didn't give a damn
  1355. 39:46about my self-esteem.
  1356. 39:53The violence in the streets
  1357. 39:55over racial injustice, and
  1358. 39:56the country's impatience
  1359. 39:58with the Vietnam War
  1360. 39:59escalates, but Walter
  1361. 40:01remains focused on his
  1362. 40:03career. In the fall of
  1363. 40:051973, Walter and Connie
  1364. 40:09move back to Philadelphia,
  1365. 40:10and a new job teaching
  1366. 40:11economics at Temple
  1367. 40:12University. Before long,
  1368. 40:14he is once again embroiled
  1369. 40:17in controversy. There was
  1370. 40:19a move by black students
  1371. 40:21to demand a black
  1372. 40:22economics course. And so I
  1373. 40:25asked my colleagues,
  1374. 40:26imagine if Irish or
  1375. 40:28Italian students demanded
  1376. 40:30Irish or Italian
  1377. 40:31economics, you would throw
  1378. 40:32them out of your office.
  1379. 40:33But because of your guilt,
  1380. 40:36you will listen to black
  1381. 40:37students saying the same
  1382. 40:39thing. In time, Walter
  1383. 40:42becomes aware that some of
  1384. 40:44his fellow faculty are
  1385. 40:45especially tolerant of
  1386. 40:47their under-performing
  1387. 40:48black students. He writes
  1388. 40:50a memo to the
  1389. 40:51administrators of Temple's
  1390. 40:52business school citing
  1391. 40:54"fraudulent grades." A
  1392. 40:56reporter's interview with
  1393. 40:57Walter and his memo
  1394. 40:59promptly appear in the
  1395. 41:00Philadelphia Inquirer.
  1396. 41:02Racial preferences or
  1397. 41:04affirmative action is one
  1398. 41:07of the most effective
  1399. 41:09means, I believe, of
  1400. 41:10reinforcing racial
  1401. 41:12stereotypes. People don't
  1402. 41:14realize that if you go
  1403. 41:15back, from 1950 to 1965,
  1404. 41:20blacks were moving up on
  1405. 41:23all sorts of important
  1406. 41:24dimensions. And they
  1407. 41:26stopped moving up in a lot
  1408. 41:27of those precisely at the
  1409. 41:28time when "equal outcomes"
  1410. 41:31became the battle cry. Not
  1411. 41:33just equality as a right
  1412. 41:36and a theory, but equality
  1413. 41:39as a fact, and equality as
  1414. 41:43a result. And that set in
  1415. 41:47motion a cascade of
  1416. 41:50subsequent programs,
  1417. 41:52affirmative action, all
  1418. 41:54the things the Equal
  1419. 41:55Employment Opportunity
  1420. 41:56Commission does. Every
  1421. 41:57single one of them with
  1422. 41:59the very best of
  1423. 42:00intentions, and every
  1424. 42:01single one of them
  1425. 42:02producing feedback loops
  1426. 42:04and unintended
  1427. 42:05consequences, which have
  1428. 42:07made it harder and harder
  1429. 42:08to achieve the progress
  1430. 42:10that was being achieved,
  1431. 42:13before we got into the
  1432. 42:14equal outcome mind set.
  1433. 42:16America should have said
  1434. 42:17to us at this time, we
  1435. 42:19acknowledge what we did,
  1436. 42:20and we are profoundly
  1437. 42:21sorry. We will make every
  1438. 42:22effort never to do
  1439. 42:24this kind of thing
  1440. 42:25again to anybody, any group.
  1441. 42:26And now you're on your own.
  1442. 42:28Racial discrimination and racism
  1443. 42:31in our country could have
  1444. 42:34earned a well-deserved
  1445. 42:36death, but it has been
  1446. 42:40resurrected by
  1447. 42:41race-hustlers, or poverty
  1448. 42:44pimps I call them, such as
  1449. 42:46Jesse Jackson, Al
  1450. 42:48Sharpton, and many others
  1451. 42:50in the civil rights
  1452. 42:51movement, who make a
  1453. 42:53living on the grievances
  1454. 42:56of blacks. In the summer
  1455. 42:58of 1975, Walter accepts a
  1456. 43:01one-year fellowship at
  1457. 43:02Stanford University's Hoover Institution.
  1458. 43:05He and Connie
  1459. 43:07and their new-born
  1460. 43:08daughter Devon would move
  1461. 43:10back to California. I went
  1462. 43:12out there that summer, and
  1463. 43:13I was commissioned to do a
  1464. 43:15study for the Joint
  1465. 43:16Economic Committee of
  1466. 43:17Congress on the minimum
  1467. 43:19wage, and the Davis-Bacon
  1468. 43:21Act. That is, these are
  1469. 43:22laws that regulate the
  1470. 43:26wages that people may
  1471. 43:28earn. And I came to the
  1472. 43:30conclusion that the
  1473. 43:31minimum wage law
  1474. 43:33discriminated against
  1475. 43:34teenagers, particularly
  1476. 43:35minority teenagers. And
  1477. 43:36the Davis-Bacon Act
  1478. 43:37discriminated against
  1479. 43:38blacks in construction
  1480. 43:39work. It was Walter's
  1481. 43:41controversial minimum wage
  1482. 43:42study that helped launch
  1483. 43:44the more public side of
  1484. 43:46his career. Requests for
  1485. 43:48radio and television
  1486. 43:49appearances increased. And
  1487. 43:51our nation benefits to the
  1488. 43:53extent that these people
  1489. 43:55come here and work. ...the
  1490. 43:57study on youth and
  1491. 43:58minority unemployment I
  1492. 43:59got invitations to testify
  1493. 44:02in congress on various
  1494. 44:05aspects of labor economics
  1495. 44:07and other topics as well;
  1496. 44:08on taxation, on welfare,
  1497. 44:11and I used to get in some
  1498. 44:13very, very kind of nasty
  1499. 44:16arguments with
  1500. 44:17congressmen, because I
  1501. 44:19don't have the level of
  1502. 44:21respect for congressmen
  1503. 44:23that many people have. In
  1504. 44:251978, Walter began a study
  1505. 44:28on the negative effects of
  1506. 44:29occupational and business
  1507. 44:31licensing. It becomes a
  1508. 44:33major part of his first
  1509. 44:34book, The State against
  1510. 44:36Blacks. If you take a
  1511. 44:37poor, illiterate Italian
  1512. 44:40in 1920s, and if he wanted
  1513. 44:41to get into the taxi cab
  1514. 44:43business, all he had to do
  1515. 44:44was buy a used car and
  1516. 44:46write the word "taxi" on
  1517. 44:47it. And lo and behold, he
  1518. 44:48was in business, making
  1519. 44:49money. Today, it's
  1520. 44:51entirely different. Unlike
  1521. 44:53the early 20th century,
  1522. 44:55many cities today restrict
  1523. 44:57the number of taxis by
  1524. 44:59requiring each taxi to
  1525. 45:00have a medallion. The
  1526. 45:02cities keep the number of
  1527. 45:03medallions strictly
  1528. 45:05limited. A taxi medallion
  1529. 45:08in Philadelphia currently
  1530. 45:09costs $400,000, similar to
  1531. 45:12what it costs in Boston or
  1532. 45:14Chicago. In New York City,
  1533. 45:17a medallion costs an
  1534. 45:19individual over $700,000,
  1535. 45:21with a corporate medallion
  1536. 45:22topping in at one million
  1537. 45:24dollars. In 1937, one
  1538. 45:27could buy an original taxi
  1539. 45:28medallion in New York City
  1540. 45:30for $10.
  1541. 45:32The price of a medallion, or the
  1542. 45:34price of any license,
  1543. 45:35it reflects the value
  1544. 45:39that the owner of the license places on
  1545. 45:43being in a government
  1546. 45:44protected monopoly market.
  1547. 45:46Because if the government
  1548. 45:47said anybody could get
  1549. 45:48into the cab business,
  1550. 45:50allow anybody, well then
  1551. 45:52the price of a license
  1552. 45:53would be zero. It wouldn't
  1553. 45:54be worth anything. It
  1554. 45:56leads to higher prices,
  1555. 45:58and so the consumer is
  1556. 45:59hurt. And it leads to
  1557. 46:02outsiders not being able
  1558. 46:05to get in. And that's the
  1559. 46:06whole point of the
  1560. 46:07medallion system is to
  1561. 46:09keep insiders in, and
  1562. 46:11outsiders out. As an
  1563. 46:13American, Walter's beliefs
  1564. 46:15spring from his deep love
  1565. 46:17for the United States
  1566. 46:18Constitution and his
  1567. 46:20abiding respect for the
  1568. 46:21rule of law. For him, the
  1569. 46:24promise of the Founding
  1570. 46:25Fathers to "promote the
  1571. 46:27general welfare" and
  1572. 46:28"secure the blessings of
  1573. 46:30liberty" has been ignored.
  1574. 46:32Americans have lost their
  1575. 46:34love for the United States
  1576. 46:36Constitution. And I
  1577. 46:38believe that either
  1578. 46:39they're ignorant, or they
  1579. 46:40have contempt for the
  1580. 46:42United States
  1581. 46:43Constitution. Ignorance is
  1582. 46:45curable, but contempt is not.
  1583. 46:50Walter speaks to the
  1584. 46:51"just powers" of
  1585. 46:52government with another
  1586. 46:53champion of the
  1587. 46:54Constitution, Senior Judge
  1588. 46:56on the United States Court
  1589. 46:57of Appeals, Douglas Ginsburg.
  1590. 46:59I've said on many
  1591. 47:00occasions that the
  1592. 47:03Supreme Court does not
  1593. 47:05uphold and defend the
  1594. 47:06United States Constitution.
  1595. 47:09Which is your complaint- that the
  1596. 47:10Court isn't upholding the
  1597. 47:11Constitution, or that they
  1598. 47:12shouldn't have a role?
  1599. 47:14In 1794, Congress
  1600. 47:16appropriated $15,000 to
  1601. 47:17help some French refugees,
  1602. 47:19and James Madison stood on
  1603. 47:21the floor of the House,
  1604. 47:22irate, and he says, "I
  1605. 47:23cannot undertake to lay my
  1606. 47:24finger on that article in
  1607. 47:26the Constitution that
  1608. 47:28authorizes congress to
  1609. 47:29spend the money of their
  1610. 47:30constituents for the
  1611. 47:31purposes of benevolence.
  1612. 47:32But if you look at the
  1613. 47:33federal budget today,
  1614. 47:342/3rds of it is for the
  1615. 47:36purpose of benevolence,
  1616. 47:38and any politician who
  1617. 47:39would make a similar
  1618. 47:41statement, he'd get run
  1619. 47:42out of office today.
  1620. 47:44On the surface it's benevolence
  1621. 47:45because it's a benefit,
  1622. 47:47a gift, but it's also
  1623. 47:48enchainment, enslavement,
  1624. 47:50because it makes people
  1625. 47:54dependent on the federal
  1626. 47:55government. The
  1627. 47:56Constitution, Article one,
  1628. 47:58Section Eight, enumerates
  1629. 47:59the powers of the federal
  1630. 48:00government, and the
  1631. 48:02federal government has
  1632. 48:04gone, congress has gone
  1633. 48:07far beyond those
  1634. 48:08enumerated powers I think
  1635. 48:10the root of that
  1636. 48:11problem...I don't know if
  1637. 48:12you agree with this, is
  1638. 48:13that the direct election
  1639. 48:14of senators. When the
  1640. 48:16senators were elected by
  1641. 48:17the state legislatures,
  1642. 48:19they represented the state
  1643. 48:20as an entity in the
  1644. 48:21federal government. No one
  1645. 48:22does that any more. That's
  1646. 48:24right. Yeah. And so, the
  1647. 48:25federal government has
  1648. 48:26created more and more
  1649. 48:27authority and the states
  1650. 48:30aren't there to object.
  1651. 48:31Yeah. Yeah. And...and the
  1652. 48:32states cannot do anything
  1653. 48:33about it. It's water over
  1654. 48:35the dam. There's no way to
  1655. 48:38undo that one, unless
  1656. 48:39people all of a sudden
  1657. 48:41decide they weren't
  1658. 48:43interested in having
  1659. 48:44power. (Laughs) Are
  1660. 48:45Americans any way
  1661. 48:46basically different from
  1662. 48:47the Romans, from the
  1663. 48:49French, from the Spanish,
  1664. 48:50from Portuguese, from the
  1665. 48:52British? And these are
  1666. 48:53great empires of the past,
  1667. 48:55but they went down the
  1668. 48:56tubes, for almost what
  1669. 48:59we're doing today. And so,
  1670. 49:01what is there about our
  1671. 49:03country that's going to
  1672. 49:04make American people any
  1673. 49:06different? Pete Seeger
  1674. 49:07wrote a song- was actually
  1675. 49:09a union song, but the
  1676. 49:10refrain was, "liberty is a
  1677. 49:12hard-won thing, and every
  1678. 49:14generation got to win it
  1679. 49:15over again." And that's
  1680. 49:18true, otherwise it
  1681. 49:19languishes and then it's
  1682. 49:20gone. Much of what Walter
  1683. 49:23Williams has achieved in
  1684. 49:24life has been the result
  1685. 49:25of hard work and
  1686. 49:27sacrifice. But luck and
  1687. 49:29chance have also been on
  1688. 49:30his side. What if he had
  1689. 49:33never had a determined and
  1690. 49:34disciplined mother, or
  1691. 49:36tough-minded teachers who,
  1692. 49:38as he says, didn't give a
  1693. 49:40damn about his
  1694. 49:41self-esteem? Suppose he
  1695. 49:43never got a job driving a
  1696. 49:45taxi? It's likely he would
  1697. 49:47never have met Connie.
  1698. 49:49Where would he be now?
  1699. 49:50Where would any American
  1700. 49:53of color be without
  1701. 49:54freedom and opportunity?
  1702. 49:57What then is Walter
  1703. 49:59Williams' legacy? They're
  1704. 50:02going to call him a
  1705. 50:03controversial professor
  1706. 50:04who offended a lot of
  1707. 50:05black people. And they may
  1708. 50:06mention his books, but
  1709. 50:07they won't talk about the
  1710. 50:08profound effect he's had
  1711. 50:09on so many people, black
  1712. 50:11and white, who have read
  1713. 50:12his books and have been
  1714. 50:13inspired by him. Walter is
  1715. 50:15one of the few honest
  1716. 50:16academics. And it's harder
  1717. 50:19to be honest in academia,
  1718. 50:21than almost any other
  1719. 50:22place, with the possible
  1720. 50:23exception of politics. He
  1721. 50:26will be remembered, as he
  1722. 50:27should be remembered, as
  1723. 50:28one of the great
  1724. 50:29economists, a great human
  1725. 50:31being, and one of the most
  1726. 50:33incredible blacks to have
  1727. 50:36come through America in
  1728. 50:38the past 80 years. The
  1729. 50:41mandate in a free society,
  1730. 50:43as Walter understands, is
  1731. 50:46not to give freedom to
  1732. 50:47people who agree with you.
  1733. 50:49The essence of liberty is
  1734. 50:51to allow freedom for
  1735. 50:52people who disagree with
  1736. 50:54you. You can be principled
  1737. 50:56and un-flexing, unbendable
  1738. 50:58with your principles and
  1739. 51:00still be successful. And
  1740. 51:01sometimes you have to
  1741. 51:02stand up, and it's okay if
  1742. 51:04you have to stand alone.
  1743. 51:06And I think that that's, I
  1744. 51:07think that that's an
  1745. 51:08un-intentioned message
  1746. 51:10that he sends. Sometimes
  1747. 51:12you have to stand alone,
  1748. 51:13but at least you're
  1749. 51:14standing up.
  1750. 51:17When he was
  1751. 51:17in high school, he had an
  1752. 51:20English class, and he
  1753. 51:22turned in a research
  1754. 51:23paper. When the teacher
  1755. 51:26passed back the papers,
  1756. 51:28she got to Walter's desk
  1757. 51:29and she tore the paper
  1758. 51:30into four pieces and
  1759. 51:32dropped it on his desk.
  1760. 51:33And she says, "Rewrite the
  1761. 51:34whole paper." And he
  1762. 51:37always pointed out that
  1763. 51:38was one of the most
  1764. 51:39influential teachers of
  1765. 51:40his life, because she
  1766. 51:41didn't make excuses for
  1767. 51:42his failure. She demanded
  1768. 51:44excellence because she
  1769. 51:45believed in him...and
  1770. 51:47that's the key. One of
  1771. 51:49Pops' statements used to
  1772. 51:50be that "Chance and
  1773. 51:52opportunity don't come by
  1774. 51:54very often, but when they
  1775. 51:56do come by, when the
  1776. 51:57opportunity train does
  1777. 51:59come by, don't be in a
  1778. 52:00position of saying, 'Wait,
  1779. 52:02let me go pack my bags.'
  1780. 52:03Always be ready for
  1781. 52:05opportunity."
  1782. 52:12On his website, Walter offers
  1783. 52:13anyone of European descent
  1784. 52:15a proclamation of amnesty
  1785. 52:17and pardon. I, Walter
  1786. 52:19Williams, do declare full
  1787. 52:21and general amnesty and
  1788. 52:23pardon to all persons of
  1789. 52:25European... ...ancestry,
  1790. 52:26for both their own
  1791. 52:27grievances, and those of
  1792. 52:29their forbearers against
  1793. 52:31my people. Therefore, from
  1794. 52:32this day forward,
  1795. 52:34Americans of European
  1796. 52:35ancestry ... ...can stand
  1797. 52:37straight and proud,
  1798. 52:38knowing they are without
  1799. 52:40guilt and thus obliged...
  1800. 52:42...not to act like damn
  1801. 52:44fools in their
  1802. 52:45relationships with
  1803. 52:46Americans of African
  1804. 52:48ancestry. (Laughs) That's
  1805. 52:52wonderful! As my dad says
  1806. 52:55in this proclamation of
  1807. 52:57amnesty and pardon, that's
  1808. 52:58over. Pick yourself up.
  1809. 53:00And it's time to do
  1810. 53:01better, and time to want
  1811. 53:03for better. Walter signs
  1812. 53:05that proclamation on his
  1813. 53:06website, Walter E.
  1814. 53:08Williams, Gracious and
  1815. 53:10Generous Grantor.
  1816. 53:18MUSIC
  1817. 54:04Major funding for Walter
  1818. 54:05Williams, Suffer No Fools
  1819. 54:06was provided by Dunn's
  1820. 54:08Foundation, and Searle
  1821. 54:09Freedom Trust. Additional
  1822. 54:12funding was provided by
  1823. 54:13Beach Foundation, Harvey
  1824. 54:15Cody, Donors Trust, The
  1825. 54:19Hickory Foundation,
  1826. 54:21William Shepard, and The
  1827. 54:22Woodford Foundation for
  1828. 54:24Limited Government.

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