Walter E Williams - On Race — Transcript
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- 0:08the illegitimacy rate among black
- 0:11Americans is close to
- 0:1475% um and a lot of people want to would
- 0:17blame this on a legacy of discrimination
- 0:19but it turns out in 1938 the
- 0:22illegitimacy rate was 11% among blacks
- 0:26uh and matter of fact among whites it
- 0:28was 3% in 1938 and today among whites is
- 0:31around
- 0:3230% uh if you look at the um the the
- 0:36breakdown the black family and matter of
- 0:38fact uh maybe breakdown is a poor term
- 0:41to use the black family does not form in
- 0:43the first place that is only 3ome per of
- 0:46black kids live in two parent families
- 0:49uh again many people will blame that on
- 0:52a legacy of discrimination but turns out
- 0:55in
- 0:561880s the uh 75% of black kids lived in
- 1:00two parent families uh in New York in
- 1:031925 85% of black kids lived in two
- 1:06parent
- 1:07families the kind of crime that we see
- 1:11in many black neighbors is entirely new
- 1:13I grew up in the Richland housing
- 1:15project in North Philadelphia and we
- 1:17didn't go to bed to the sounds of
- 1:19gunshots the and many many people they
- 1:22did not lock their door until 11:00 or
- 1:2610:00 at night when everybody was home
- 1:29there were there was far greater
- 1:31civility uh in in poor black
- 1:33neighborhoods at a time time when when
- 1:36black people were far were closer to
- 1:39slavery only two generations two or
- 1:42three generations out of slavery and
- 1:44there were not the opportunities and
- 1:47there's far greater discrimination
- 1:49against blacks as we find today so so
- 1:52what I'm arguing is that that much of
- 1:54what we see has absolutely nothing to do
- 1:57with discrimination if you look get I
- 2:01mean the the fact of business which is
- 2:02not very pleasant to talk about if you
- 2:04ask the question in what cities do black
- 2:09people are are black people most
- 2:11insecure receive uh uh the grossly poor
- 2:17education and and and have other very
- 2:20very poor living standards they are in
- 2:23the very cities where a black is the
- 2:26mayor a black is the chief of police
- 2:29black is superintendent of school and
- 2:31the Very cities where the the
- 2:33Administration has in those cities have
- 2:35been Democrat over for half a centur so
- 2:39I'm not stating a causal relationship
- 2:41between uh blacks being in political uh
- 2:45control of the cities and the poor
- 2:47living conditions and the poor standards
- 2:49in school but what I'm saying is that
- 2:51you can't blame it on discrimination
- 2:54that is the right and education that
- 2:56black kids are receiving in Washington
- 2:59DC
- 3:00you can no way in the world can you
- 3:02blame that on racial discrimination when
- 3:05when the when the political mechanism in
- 3:08Washington DC is black unless you want
- 3:10to say that the black politicians are
- 3:12engaging in racial discrimination and
- 3:15oppressing their people so I think that
- 3:18when you when you begin to try to solve
- 3:21problems you have to identify the causes
- 3:24correctly that is you for example I
- 3:27could be a a physician and you you come
- 3:30to me and you say you have a bad stomach
- 3:32ache and I can say well your stomach
- 3:34ache is caused by your ingrown toenails
- 3:37well if there if there's no relationship
- 3:39between your ingrown toenails and your
- 3:41stomach ache I can treat your ingrown
- 3:43toenails all that once and you're still
- 3:45going to have the stomach ache and the
- 3:47same thing with uh trying to help people
- 3:50out that is if you have you have to
- 3:52identify the causes of their problems
- 3:55correctly and if you just say well look
- 3:57the pro black problems are caused by a
- 3:59legacy of dis discrimination and and and
- 4:01a legacy of slavery and discrimination
- 4:04well you can work on that all you want
- 4:06then the black problems are going to
- 4:10persist is the welfare system
- 4:13intrinsically intended to keep poor
- 4:15people mainly of color in
- 4:18poverty uh I don't think that is
- 4:21intrinsically intended I don't think
- 4:23that's the intention uh there the I
- 4:26think that the intention for uh
- 4:29well-intended people I think it's to
- 4:31help help people but I think that uh
- 4:34when you look at the intentions of uh a
- 4:37programs uh when you look at programs
- 4:39you you should ignore their intentions
- 4:41and ask what is the effect and I think
- 4:44that the effect of a welfare uh has been
- 4:47devastating for uh for black Americans
- 4:50uh the the kind of things you see among
- 4:52black Americans today are entirely new
- 4:55as I said as I said earlier and what
- 4:59there there's no more material poverty
- 5:01in the United States there's no more
- 5:03material pover we don't have anything
- 5:05like you see in Bangladesh and
- 5:08Afghanistan and all these other poor
- 5:10countries what we have in our country is
- 5:13poverty of the spirit that is where
- 5:15people have become dependent uh on on
- 5:19government programs and they're not
- 5:21they're not self-sufficient that's the
- 5:23kind of poverty that we have today in
- 5:26what ways do you believe black Americans
- 5:28would be better off if no wealth Fair
- 5:30state had ever been
- 5:32instituted well I I think that I think
- 5:34that not not only black Americans but
- 5:36Americans in general I think that
- 5:39Americans in general uh would would uh
- 5:42they'd be more independent that is you
- 5:44see I think one of the things we have to
- 5:46recognize in any Economist I believe
- 5:49whether he's whether he's liberal or
- 5:51conservative or or free market he will
- 5:54tell you that if you tax something
- 5:57you're going to get less of it and if
- 5:59you subsidize something you're going to
- 6:01get more of it and what we've been doing
- 6:04is subsidizing slovenly Behavior I mean
- 6:07you see you see like like the the
- 6:10duration of unemployment has I think
- 6:12almost doubled since the
- 6:141940s and and one of the reasons why the
- 6:16duration of unemployment has doubled is
- 6:19because of unemployment compensation uh
- 6:21whereby people can pick and choose they
- 6:24can say oh I'm not going to take this
- 6:25hamburger flipper job I'm going to wait
- 6:27for something better to come along uh
- 6:29but if the if uh not accepting that job
- 6:33meant starvation then they would not
- 6:34make such a decision I think that um
- 6:38that it it creates a a u a a dependence
- 6:42mentality give you an example of this uh
- 6:46uh my wife has a huge family as I
- 6:49suggest that she was the uh the youngest
- 6:51of 10
- 6:52children and she has a huge family and
- 6:55one night one time we were over their
- 6:56house and the and two of her nieces were
- 6:58arguing about money and one said I'll
- 7:01pay you I I'll give you damn money when
- 7:04I when I get paid and she was referring
- 7:07to going to the mailbox picking up a
- 7:09welfare check I mean that the idea that
- 7:12a welfare check is is is
- 7:17payment one of the tragic things about
- 7:20the uh the problem the crime problem in
- 7:22the many black
- 7:23neighborhoods is that uh 52 51 or 2% of
- 7:28uh of homicide victims in the United
- 7:30States are black and it turns out that
- 7:33uh uh somewhere around 95 9 94 95% of
- 7:38them are are are murdered by another
- 7:41black and so if you focus attention on
- 7:46on what police are doing or what white
- 7:48people are doing you will not uh you you
- 7:51will not deal with the problem of uh of
- 7:53black uh black lives uh being destroyed
- 7:57on the streets uh because most of them
- 7:59are are done by uh murdered by
- 8:04blacks for the Dear Professor this is
- 8:06what I'd like to sh ask him about the
- 8:09three fifth
- 8:11Claws and also uh the founding fathers
- 8:15who were slaveholders because he keeps
- 8:17talking about the founding fathers if it
- 8:20if it just turned on them he would still
- 8:22be in
- 8:23slavery I think that the uh the
- 8:25Three-Fifths Clause that people talk
- 8:27about the the uh uh blacks being seen as
- 8:31three-fifths of a person it turned out
- 8:34that during the 1780 1787 Convention in
- 8:38Phil in
- 8:40Philadelphia the uh uh it turned out
- 8:43that slaves were
- 8:4440% of the population of the southern
- 8:48states the southern states wanted to
- 8:52count each person each slave as one
- 8:56vote the northern the Northern delegates
- 9:00delegates to the convention they didn't
- 9:02think that slav should be counted at all
- 9:05uh in terms of the apportionment for the
- 9:08House of
- 9:09Representatives and so the the
- 9:12concession they made was to well to uh
- 9:16make uh blacks count the the slaves
- 9:19count as three fifths of a person for
- 9:22the purposes of a portion to the House
- 9:24of Representatives now the caller I
- 9:27don't know whether he would want this uh
- 9:30would he argue on the side of the
- 9:33southern states to count each black as
- 9:36one vote which if if they were counted
- 9:39as one vote it would it would give the
- 9:42southern states far greater power in the
- 9:45United States uh uh
- 9:47Congress now um the many of the uh many
- 9:52of the founders they they did not want
- 9:56they did not they you know they were
- 9:57against slavery but they did not they
- 10:01they felt that if they had abolished
- 10:04slavery during the uh convention then
- 10:08there would not have been a union and so
- 10:11one has asked the
- 10:13question uh would blacks have been
- 10:15better off if the north went their way
- 10:20and the South went their way and there
- 10:22was not a union created between you know
- 10:26we did not become a United States uh I
- 10:30don't think so I don't I I would
- 10:31disagree that blacks would have been
- 10:33better off under those
- 10:35conditions and matter of fact I think it
- 10:37was uh um Wilson one of the delegates I
- 10:39believe from New Jersey uh he said well
- 10:42he said something at least we've
- 10:44outlawed slavery the TR the uh slave
- 10:48trade by 1808 and that might be a very
- 10:52good start for uh outlawing all together
- 10:56now in terms of the founders of vision
- 10:59of slavery uh I have many many
- 11:02quotations from the founders including
- 11:04George Washington James Madison George
- 11:07George Mason Thomas Jefferson etc etc
- 11:10that would condemn the idea of slavery
- 11:12but I think that there's one thing that
- 11:14we have to recognize and again this is
- 11:17not giving any moral sanction to slavery
- 11:21is that throughout Mankind's history
- 11:24slavery has been the normal State of
- 11:26Affairs and it turns out that
- 11:29blacks were the last people to be
- 11:32enslaved that is the uh matter of fact
- 11:35the term slave comes from the uh from
- 11:38the it's a reference to the Slavic
- 11:40people that is Slavs were among some of
- 11:43the ver uh the first slaves and matter
- 11:45of fact the uh U white Americans were
- 11:48enslaved and that's why Jefferson sent
- 11:51troops to uh uh to Tripoli uh to to to
- 11:54free American slaves that were uh
- 11:57enslaved by some the nor Northern
- 12:00African uh uh uh countries and so I
- 12:04think the that the unique thing about
- 12:06slavery in United States and slavery uh
- 12:11um slavery in the United States is that
- 12:14or in the Western World I should say is
- 12:16that uh Great Britain and United
- 12:20States were the two countries that went
- 12:24to the greatest pains to eliminate
- 12:27slavery that is Great Britain banned it
- 12:31slave trade uh the just the sight of the
- 12:33Union Jack on the high seas that kind of
- 12:36ended the trade of slavery and then
- 12:39Americans uh we we uh fought a very very
- 12:42costly war of 600 600,000 Americans died
- 12:48and part of the effort was to uh
- 12:50eliminate uh slavery so so I think
- 12:53there's two things we have to recognize
- 12:55slavery was the normal state of affairs
- 12:57with Mankind and again I'm not giving
- 12:59any sanction to it but it was a normal
- 13:01State of Affairs among mankind but the
- 13:04fact of business was that is that United
- 13:08States and Great Britain did the most to
- 13:12end uh that that abusive and ugly uh
- 13:15Institution
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