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Walter E Williams - On Race — Transcript

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  1. 0:08the illegitimacy rate among black
  2. 0:11Americans is close to
  3. 0:1475% um and a lot of people want to would
  4. 0:17blame this on a legacy of discrimination
  5. 0:19but it turns out in 1938 the
  6. 0:22illegitimacy rate was 11% among blacks
  7. 0:26uh and matter of fact among whites it
  8. 0:28was 3% in 1938 and today among whites is
  9. 0:31around
  10. 0:3230% uh if you look at the um the the
  11. 0:36breakdown the black family and matter of
  12. 0:38fact uh maybe breakdown is a poor term
  13. 0:41to use the black family does not form in
  14. 0:43the first place that is only 3ome per of
  15. 0:46black kids live in two parent families
  16. 0:49uh again many people will blame that on
  17. 0:52a legacy of discrimination but turns out
  18. 0:55in
  19. 0:561880s the uh 75% of black kids lived in
  20. 1:00two parent families uh in New York in
  21. 1:031925 85% of black kids lived in two
  22. 1:06parent
  23. 1:07families the kind of crime that we see
  24. 1:11in many black neighbors is entirely new
  25. 1:13I grew up in the Richland housing
  26. 1:15project in North Philadelphia and we
  27. 1:17didn't go to bed to the sounds of
  28. 1:19gunshots the and many many people they
  29. 1:22did not lock their door until 11:00 or
  30. 1:2610:00 at night when everybody was home
  31. 1:29there were there was far greater
  32. 1:31civility uh in in poor black
  33. 1:33neighborhoods at a time time when when
  34. 1:36black people were far were closer to
  35. 1:39slavery only two generations two or
  36. 1:42three generations out of slavery and
  37. 1:44there were not the opportunities and
  38. 1:47there's far greater discrimination
  39. 1:49against blacks as we find today so so
  40. 1:52what I'm arguing is that that much of
  41. 1:54what we see has absolutely nothing to do
  42. 1:57with discrimination if you look get I
  43. 2:01mean the the fact of business which is
  44. 2:02not very pleasant to talk about if you
  45. 2:04ask the question in what cities do black
  46. 2:09people are are black people most
  47. 2:11insecure receive uh uh the grossly poor
  48. 2:17education and and and have other very
  49. 2:20very poor living standards they are in
  50. 2:23the very cities where a black is the
  51. 2:26mayor a black is the chief of police
  52. 2:29black is superintendent of school and
  53. 2:31the Very cities where the the
  54. 2:33Administration has in those cities have
  55. 2:35been Democrat over for half a centur so
  56. 2:39I'm not stating a causal relationship
  57. 2:41between uh blacks being in political uh
  58. 2:45control of the cities and the poor
  59. 2:47living conditions and the poor standards
  60. 2:49in school but what I'm saying is that
  61. 2:51you can't blame it on discrimination
  62. 2:54that is the right and education that
  63. 2:56black kids are receiving in Washington
  64. 2:59DC
  65. 3:00you can no way in the world can you
  66. 3:02blame that on racial discrimination when
  67. 3:05when the when the political mechanism in
  68. 3:08Washington DC is black unless you want
  69. 3:10to say that the black politicians are
  70. 3:12engaging in racial discrimination and
  71. 3:15oppressing their people so I think that
  72. 3:18when you when you begin to try to solve
  73. 3:21problems you have to identify the causes
  74. 3:24correctly that is you for example I
  75. 3:27could be a a physician and you you come
  76. 3:30to me and you say you have a bad stomach
  77. 3:32ache and I can say well your stomach
  78. 3:34ache is caused by your ingrown toenails
  79. 3:37well if there if there's no relationship
  80. 3:39between your ingrown toenails and your
  81. 3:41stomach ache I can treat your ingrown
  82. 3:43toenails all that once and you're still
  83. 3:45going to have the stomach ache and the
  84. 3:47same thing with uh trying to help people
  85. 3:50out that is if you have you have to
  86. 3:52identify the causes of their problems
  87. 3:55correctly and if you just say well look
  88. 3:57the pro black problems are caused by a
  89. 3:59legacy of dis discrimination and and and
  90. 4:01a legacy of slavery and discrimination
  91. 4:04well you can work on that all you want
  92. 4:06then the black problems are going to
  93. 4:10persist is the welfare system
  94. 4:13intrinsically intended to keep poor
  95. 4:15people mainly of color in
  96. 4:18poverty uh I don't think that is
  97. 4:21intrinsically intended I don't think
  98. 4:23that's the intention uh there the I
  99. 4:26think that the intention for uh
  100. 4:29well-intended people I think it's to
  101. 4:31help help people but I think that uh
  102. 4:34when you look at the intentions of uh a
  103. 4:37programs uh when you look at programs
  104. 4:39you you should ignore their intentions
  105. 4:41and ask what is the effect and I think
  106. 4:44that the effect of a welfare uh has been
  107. 4:47devastating for uh for black Americans
  108. 4:50uh the the kind of things you see among
  109. 4:52black Americans today are entirely new
  110. 4:55as I said as I said earlier and what
  111. 4:59there there's no more material poverty
  112. 5:01in the United States there's no more
  113. 5:03material pover we don't have anything
  114. 5:05like you see in Bangladesh and
  115. 5:08Afghanistan and all these other poor
  116. 5:10countries what we have in our country is
  117. 5:13poverty of the spirit that is where
  118. 5:15people have become dependent uh on on
  119. 5:19government programs and they're not
  120. 5:21they're not self-sufficient that's the
  121. 5:23kind of poverty that we have today in
  122. 5:26what ways do you believe black Americans
  123. 5:28would be better off if no wealth Fair
  124. 5:30state had ever been
  125. 5:32instituted well I I think that I think
  126. 5:34that not not only black Americans but
  127. 5:36Americans in general I think that
  128. 5:39Americans in general uh would would uh
  129. 5:42they'd be more independent that is you
  130. 5:44see I think one of the things we have to
  131. 5:46recognize in any Economist I believe
  132. 5:49whether he's whether he's liberal or
  133. 5:51conservative or or free market he will
  134. 5:54tell you that if you tax something
  135. 5:57you're going to get less of it and if
  136. 5:59you subsidize something you're going to
  137. 6:01get more of it and what we've been doing
  138. 6:04is subsidizing slovenly Behavior I mean
  139. 6:07you see you see like like the the
  140. 6:10duration of unemployment has I think
  141. 6:12almost doubled since the
  142. 6:141940s and and one of the reasons why the
  143. 6:16duration of unemployment has doubled is
  144. 6:19because of unemployment compensation uh
  145. 6:21whereby people can pick and choose they
  146. 6:24can say oh I'm not going to take this
  147. 6:25hamburger flipper job I'm going to wait
  148. 6:27for something better to come along uh
  149. 6:29but if the if uh not accepting that job
  150. 6:33meant starvation then they would not
  151. 6:34make such a decision I think that um
  152. 6:38that it it creates a a u a a dependence
  153. 6:42mentality give you an example of this uh
  154. 6:46uh my wife has a huge family as I
  155. 6:49suggest that she was the uh the youngest
  156. 6:51of 10
  157. 6:52children and she has a huge family and
  158. 6:55one night one time we were over their
  159. 6:56house and the and two of her nieces were
  160. 6:58arguing about money and one said I'll
  161. 7:01pay you I I'll give you damn money when
  162. 7:04I when I get paid and she was referring
  163. 7:07to going to the mailbox picking up a
  164. 7:09welfare check I mean that the idea that
  165. 7:12a welfare check is is is
  166. 7:17payment one of the tragic things about
  167. 7:20the uh the problem the crime problem in
  168. 7:22the many black
  169. 7:23neighborhoods is that uh 52 51 or 2% of
  170. 7:28uh of homicide victims in the United
  171. 7:30States are black and it turns out that
  172. 7:33uh uh somewhere around 95 9 94 95% of
  173. 7:38them are are are murdered by another
  174. 7:41black and so if you focus attention on
  175. 7:46on what police are doing or what white
  176. 7:48people are doing you will not uh you you
  177. 7:51will not deal with the problem of uh of
  178. 7:53black uh black lives uh being destroyed
  179. 7:57on the streets uh because most of them
  180. 7:59are are done by uh murdered by
  181. 8:04blacks for the Dear Professor this is
  182. 8:06what I'd like to sh ask him about the
  183. 8:09three fifth
  184. 8:11Claws and also uh the founding fathers
  185. 8:15who were slaveholders because he keeps
  186. 8:17talking about the founding fathers if it
  187. 8:20if it just turned on them he would still
  188. 8:22be in
  189. 8:23slavery I think that the uh the
  190. 8:25Three-Fifths Clause that people talk
  191. 8:27about the the uh uh blacks being seen as
  192. 8:31three-fifths of a person it turned out
  193. 8:34that during the 1780 1787 Convention in
  194. 8:38Phil in
  195. 8:40Philadelphia the uh uh it turned out
  196. 8:43that slaves were
  197. 8:4440% of the population of the southern
  198. 8:48states the southern states wanted to
  199. 8:52count each person each slave as one
  200. 8:56vote the northern the Northern delegates
  201. 9:00delegates to the convention they didn't
  202. 9:02think that slav should be counted at all
  203. 9:05uh in terms of the apportionment for the
  204. 9:08House of
  205. 9:09Representatives and so the the
  206. 9:12concession they made was to well to uh
  207. 9:16make uh blacks count the the slaves
  208. 9:19count as three fifths of a person for
  209. 9:22the purposes of a portion to the House
  210. 9:24of Representatives now the caller I
  211. 9:27don't know whether he would want this uh
  212. 9:30would he argue on the side of the
  213. 9:33southern states to count each black as
  214. 9:36one vote which if if they were counted
  215. 9:39as one vote it would it would give the
  216. 9:42southern states far greater power in the
  217. 9:45United States uh uh
  218. 9:47Congress now um the many of the uh many
  219. 9:52of the founders they they did not want
  220. 9:56they did not they you know they were
  221. 9:57against slavery but they did not they
  222. 10:01they felt that if they had abolished
  223. 10:04slavery during the uh convention then
  224. 10:08there would not have been a union and so
  225. 10:11one has asked the
  226. 10:13question uh would blacks have been
  227. 10:15better off if the north went their way
  228. 10:20and the South went their way and there
  229. 10:22was not a union created between you know
  230. 10:26we did not become a United States uh I
  231. 10:30don't think so I don't I I would
  232. 10:31disagree that blacks would have been
  233. 10:33better off under those
  234. 10:35conditions and matter of fact I think it
  235. 10:37was uh um Wilson one of the delegates I
  236. 10:39believe from New Jersey uh he said well
  237. 10:42he said something at least we've
  238. 10:44outlawed slavery the TR the uh slave
  239. 10:48trade by 1808 and that might be a very
  240. 10:52good start for uh outlawing all together
  241. 10:56now in terms of the founders of vision
  242. 10:59of slavery uh I have many many
  243. 11:02quotations from the founders including
  244. 11:04George Washington James Madison George
  245. 11:07George Mason Thomas Jefferson etc etc
  246. 11:10that would condemn the idea of slavery
  247. 11:12but I think that there's one thing that
  248. 11:14we have to recognize and again this is
  249. 11:17not giving any moral sanction to slavery
  250. 11:21is that throughout Mankind's history
  251. 11:24slavery has been the normal State of
  252. 11:26Affairs and it turns out that
  253. 11:29blacks were the last people to be
  254. 11:32enslaved that is the uh matter of fact
  255. 11:35the term slave comes from the uh from
  256. 11:38the it's a reference to the Slavic
  257. 11:40people that is Slavs were among some of
  258. 11:43the ver uh the first slaves and matter
  259. 11:45of fact the uh U white Americans were
  260. 11:48enslaved and that's why Jefferson sent
  261. 11:51troops to uh uh to Tripoli uh to to to
  262. 11:54free American slaves that were uh
  263. 11:57enslaved by some the nor Northern
  264. 12:00African uh uh uh countries and so I
  265. 12:04think the that the unique thing about
  266. 12:06slavery in United States and slavery uh
  267. 12:11um slavery in the United States is that
  268. 12:14or in the Western World I should say is
  269. 12:16that uh Great Britain and United
  270. 12:20States were the two countries that went
  271. 12:24to the greatest pains to eliminate
  272. 12:27slavery that is Great Britain banned it
  273. 12:31slave trade uh the just the sight of the
  274. 12:33Union Jack on the high seas that kind of
  275. 12:36ended the trade of slavery and then
  276. 12:39Americans uh we we uh fought a very very
  277. 12:42costly war of 600 600,000 Americans died
  278. 12:48and part of the effort was to uh
  279. 12:50eliminate uh slavery so so I think
  280. 12:53there's two things we have to recognize
  281. 12:55slavery was the normal state of affairs
  282. 12:57with Mankind and again I'm not giving
  283. 12:59any sanction to it but it was a normal
  284. 13:01State of Affairs among mankind but the
  285. 13:04fact of business was that is that United
  286. 13:08States and Great Britain did the most to
  287. 13:12end uh that that abusive and ugly uh
  288. 13:15Institution

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