"Wait, What?" Tucker Shocked Live on Air by Global Food Crisis — Transcript

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1. 0:00Where would you say we are globally with
2. 0:02energy right now? Just give us the
3. 0:04overview if you would.
4. 0:05>> Yep. Um well
5. 0:08to put the kind of a
6. 0:10a big perspective on things cuz people
7. 0:12have been kind of in living in a
8. 0:14delusional world I believe in energy
9. 0:15over the past 20 25 years.
10. 0:18The world gets 90% of its of its energy
11. 0:20from hydrocarbons, oil, natural gas, and
12. 0:23coal. It's 90%
13. 0:24>> Still?
14. 0:25>> Still. You China uh Europe, the US.
15. 0:29The last 10% is nuclear and a little bit
16. 0:31of solar and wind. And everyone talks
17. 0:33about electrification of the world and
18. 0:35uh
19. 0:37putting solar panels up on your roof and
20. 0:38all of that that's you know going to be
21. 0:39the energy transition as it's it's been
22. 0:41marketed. Um that that is kind of a
23. 0:43marketing pitch. There there has been
24. 0:45additional
25. 0:46uh solar wind uh energy generation
26. 0:49capacity put in place over the last 25
27. 0:52years. Uh but that's been additional to
28. 0:54that core undercoring 90% of
29. 0:57hydrocarbons, oil, gas, and coal.
30. 0:59>> of energy in the world comes from oil
31. 1:03coal and gas.
32. 1:05>> 50 years ago and today in 2026.
33. 1:08>> Same percentage?
34. 1:09>> Same roughly. Yeah.
35. 1:10>> And the other 10% is nuclear and then
36. 1:14what we refer to as renewables.
37. 1:16>> Solar and wind. Yeah.
38. 1:17>> Wow. So solar and wind are not even 10%.
39. 1:20Like what So what percentage
40. 1:21>> Five 5% 5% globally. So 5 6% and it
41. 1:24depends on the country but on a global
42. 1:26scale 5 or 6% and you go back 10 years
43. 1:28ago it was around 5 or 6%.
44. 1:31And so
45. 1:31>> Wait a second. We spent trillions of
46. 1:33dollars on this and received endless
47. 1:35lectures about it and we're still only
48. 1:36at 5%.
49. 1:37>> Yeah. And in 20 years time it'll still
50. 1:39be 5 or 6%.
51. 1:41>> It was the whole thing was a lie then.
52. 1:42That's what you're saying.
53. 1:43>> It's
54. 1:45it's there there's a reality to there
55. 1:47additional capacity has been added but
56. 1:49global demand for energy is growing with
57. 1:51global population and the only energy
58. 1:53source that's been able to keep up with
59. 1:55that demand for energy globally has been
60. 1:57hydrocarbons and the high three
61. 1:59hydrocarbons are oil, a third of the
62. 2:01world's energy,
63. 2:02coal, a third of the world's energy, uh
64. 2:04roughly, and natural gas, a third of the
65. 2:06world's energy. And that that that
66. 2:09realization is kind of I I have this
67. 2:11idea people say, "Oh, are we living in a
68. 2:13simulation?" What not. People have no
69. 2:14connection with base reality. And the
70. 2:16base reality is that we are still living
71. 2:18in a hydrocarbon world. We have been
72. 2:19living in a hydrocarbon world. It's It's
73. 2:21enabled amazing civilization
74. 2:23developments over the last 100 150
75. 2:25years.
76. 2:26But people are disconnected from that
77. 2:28reality, and they think If you ask
78. 2:30anyone, you know, how do how does China
79. 2:31get its electricity? People will say,
80. 2:33"Oh, it's Isn't it solar? They have the
81. 2:34best solar industry, and they have wind
82. 2:36turbines and all that." No, 60% of
83. 2:38China's uh energy comes from coal.
84. 2:41Uh 80% of India's energy comes from
85. 2:43coal.
86. 2:44>> 80% of India?
87. 2:45>> Yeah. Yeah, and they're growing rapidly,
88. 2:47and it's all coal. And so, this whole
89. 2:49rhythm now, and I I can understand no
90. 2:51one want Even people that work in the
91. 2:53oil and gas industry, everyone wants to
92. 2:54be environmentally conscious. People
93. 2:56live in the real world, you know, even
94. 2:57people who work in the oil and gas and
95. 2:59coal industry. So, no one wants to
96. 3:00pollute. But we also live in a world
97. 3:03where you need energy to operate
98. 3:05everything. It's And not just the
99. 3:07energy, you need plastics that go into
100. 3:09everything. Uh you need petrochemicals
101. 3:12that enable modern civilization. And you
102. 3:15know, this is this is uh a very new
103. 3:17thing. The oil industry started here in
104. 3:19Pennsyl- or down in Pennsylvania in
105. 3:201859. So, this is we're 150 We're 150
106. 3:24years into the mass scale hydrocarbon
107. 3:27world. And this world that we live in is
108. 3:30enabled by and is paid for modern
109. 3:32civilization sits on top of
110. 3:34hydrocarbons, 90%. And you get people,
111. 3:37especially in Europe, which kind of
112. 3:39annoys me. I'm from Ireland, I was born
113. 3:41in Ireland. You get people complaining,
114. 3:42"Why is the energy so expensive?" And
115. 3:44And even senior policy level and
116. 3:47political leaders, [clears throat] and
117. 3:48they have no base level of understanding
118. 3:50of the reality of this is where we get
119. 3:52it. They think it's we just put more
120. 3:54solar panels. That's their answer to
121. 3:56everything, which is fine. If put up
122. 3:57solar panels, and that's great, and
123. 4:00you know, as a uh an additive nice thing
124. 4:02to have, um but 90% of the world's
125. 4:05energy comes from oil, natural gas, and
126. 4:08coal. And it has 50 years ago, it has
127. 4:10today, and it will 50 years from today.
128. 4:14>> Well, that is So, when you say that we
129. 4:16are living in a kind of simulation, the
130. 4:18simulation you're describing is one in
131. 4:20which people don't know that.
132. 4:22>> Correct. People have disconnected from
133. 4:23the where their energy comes from that
134. 4:24enables everything, where their food
135. 4:26comes from. Uh everyone talks about the
136. 4:28fertilizer crisis because of the uh
137. 4:30Hormuz shut down this year. Uh
138. 4:32fertilizer,
139. 4:33uh 80% of the world's food that's grown
140. 4:36everywhere across the entire world comes
141. 4:38from natural gas. Natural gas Remember,
142. 4:40it's 30% of oil, 30% nat gas, 30%
143. 4:43roughly is coal. That 30% of nat gas,
144. 4:46that makes urea and ammonia and all of
145. 4:48the fertilizers. And if those
146. 4:50fertilizers didn't exist, it's basically
147. 4:52ammonia and urea are nat gas in a bag
148. 4:55used fertilizer. If that didn't exist,
149. 4:57we would have uh we would have see the
150. 4:59world's population stay at 8 billion. We
151. 5:00could only support maybe 2 billion if we
152. 5:02didn't have nat gas. So, not only is it
153. 5:05the energy system
154. 5:06>> Wait, what?
155. 5:07>> Yeah, there would be If you turn off nat
156. 5:09gas production, natural gas production,
157. 5:11it's very closely very similar to the
158. 5:13oil industry. It's 1/3 of the world's
159. 5:15energy. Uh that
160. 5:17it produces nitrogen in the form of urea
161. 5:20and ammonia. It is the essential uh
162. 5:23fertilizer for uh
163. 5:25growing crops globally, all crops. And
164. 5:28with the Hormuz situation this year, uh
165. 5:31because you had a nat gas production
166. 5:33comes out of Qatar, um you had a
167. 5:35disruption in in uh uh fertilizer
168. 5:37production because natural gas is what
169. 5:39produces fertilizer. Um that that's
170. 5:42going to result in next year, 2027. It
171. 5:44usually has a lag because crop cycles
172. 5:46and seasons. Um that that lag is going
173. 5:49to be one of the kind of the the more
174. 5:51laggy effects of the Middle Eastern
175. 5:53situation with Iran this year. But so,
176. 5:55it's not only energy, it's also food.
177. 5:57And there's just the the simulation that
178. 6:00most people in the world are living in,
179. 6:01especially in Western uh civilization,
180. 6:03is that they have gotten or just are are
181. 6:06not aware of the fact that hydrocarbons
182. 6:08are nine out of 10
183. 6:10portions of the energy that they
184. 6:11consume. And
185. 6:14for also for food, all of the food,
186. 6:16pretty much most of the food that you
187. 6:18eat today, and it doesn't matter what
188. 6:19kind of food, you might say, "Oh, well,
189. 6:20I eat, you know, vegetables." Well,
190. 6:21that's also fertilizer goes into that as
191. 6:23well. There's fertilizer used in every
192. 6:25crop. And all of the world's food is
193. 6:27dependent on natural gas. And so, we can
194. 6:29go back to, you know, this Why is
195. 6:32natural gas used in uh, as a fertilizer?
196. 6:34It was a discovery in Europe in the
197. 6:361910s. It was a the uh, Haber-Bosch
198. 6:39discovery. Where you take it in It used
199. 6:41to be uh, back in the 1800s. And this is
200. 6:43why how old knew this this situation is.
201. 6:46Back in the 1800s, um, if you wanted to
202. 6:48put nitrogen into a crop, nitrogen is
203. 6:50one of the essential nutrients for
204. 6:51growing any kind of crop, pretty much.
205. 6:53And uh, you used to have to rotate
206. 6:56crops. It's a very slow process. You put
207. 6:57down tubers. And it was a very You used
208. 6:59to do it cycle by cycle every few crop
209. 7:02cycles. You had to plant a
210. 7:03nitrogen-fixing
211. 7:05uh, to get nitrogen from the air and
212. 7:06pull it into the soil.
213. 7:07>> Otherwise, you would exhaust the soil.
214. 7:09>> You would exhaust the soil within a a
215. 7:10season or two. And your yields would
216. 7:12drop down. And um, this this discovery
217. 7:15around 1910, you could take natural gas,
218. 7:17which is a hydrocarbon, and when I say
219. 7:19hydrocarbon, it's these molecules
220. 7:20contain hydrogen and carbon, built from
221. 7:22amoeba millions of years ago or
222. 7:25animals millions of years ago buried
223. 7:27underground. Uh, they basically with
224. 7:30pressure and heat over millions of
225. 7:31years, it turns into crude oil or
226. 7:32natural gas or coal, one of these
227. 7:34hydrocarbon fuels. And um, around 1910,
228. 7:37it was discovered how to use uh, natural
229. 7:40gas.
230. 7:41Um, and you take the nitrogen from the
231. 7:42air, use the hydrogen that comes from
232. 7:45the hydrocarbon of natural gas, and you
233. 7:47can make um,
234. 7:48uh, fertilizer, which basically you can
235. 7:50put the nitrogen into the ground with a
236. 7:53powders and things like that to uh,
237. 7:57as a fertilizer. And it increased crop
238. 7:59yields by 5 or 600% over time. 5 or
239. 8:02600%. So, everyone goes, "Why did the
240. 8:04population grow?" Because cheap energy
241. 8:07and cheap food because of natural gas.
242. 8:10Those two reasons. That's why how we
243. 8:11live in this world today. And it it kind
244. 8:14of it doesn't annoy me, but it it
245. 8:16disturbs me when people are are
246. 8:18disconnected from that base reality.
247. 8:20Base reality is 90% of the world's
248. 8:22energy today and 50 years from now and
249. 8:2550 years in the past and and similar
250. 8:27proportion of food comes from that
251. 8:30hydrocarbon ecosystem.
252. 8:32>> So, you're saying if we were to shut
253. 8:35down natural gas production globally,
254. 8:386 billion people would starve to death?
255. 8:41>> Pretty much. Yeah. I'm and
256. 8:44I was in New York yesterday.
257. 8:46New York has banned drilling for natural
258. 8:48gas. The New York state sits on top of
259. 8:51a field a
260. 8:53natural gas field that runs the right
261. 8:54through West Virginia, Pennsylvania, the
262. 8:56Marcellus and Utica. And they're the
263. 8:59names of the hydrocarbon basins. New
264. 9:01York is New York City has if you look at
265. 9:04go to Manhattan, New York City's big
266. 9:06power stations, four big power stations
267. 9:08on the the east side of Manhattan, those
268. 9:10run on natural gas. And so all of the
269. 9:12electricity for and there's a big one in
270. 9:14Queens and a few others, but those big
271. 9:16big power stations in Manhattan, they
272. 9:18run natural gas.
273. 9:19New York state has banned natural gas
274. 9:21drilling for natural gas. They sit on
275. 9:22top of a huge amount of natural gas.
276. 9:24They've banned it. They've also banned
277. 9:26the pipelines to deliver natural gas,
278. 9:28new pipelines. So, they're cutting off
279. 9:30their faces by cutting off their noses
280. 9:32to spite themselves in that they're
281. 9:34denying the fact that the reality is all
282. 9:36of the electricity in Manhattan or New
283. 9:37York City comes from natural gas, but
284. 9:39then they ban sourcing that fuel and
285. 9:41they ban the piping of that fuel to the
286. 9:44source of what turns on the lights. I
287. 9:45mean, that
288. 9:47is absurd. That the whole
289. 9:49you know, it's it's a distortion of what
290. 9:51environmentalism is. Environmentalism
291. 9:53should be you have a sustainable
292. 9:55environment where you don't create
293. 9:57negative consequences and pollution into
294. 9:59but you you also have to be aware of
295. 10:02there's you need energy to to just to
296. 10:04live in modern civilization and you need
297. 10:06energy for food. You need natural gas
298. 10:07for food and
299. 10:09uh the
300. 10:11it's enabled the food supply for people
301. 10:14living in the West, luxury civilization
302. 10:16is dependent on. And not just luxury
303. 10:18civilization, also the developing world,
304. 10:20China and India are similarly dependent.
305. 10:22There's no one no one sneaking away
306. 10:24getting a trick of
307. 10:27secretly building the solar panels and
308. 10:28and wind turbines that they're getting
309. 10:29away with some magic. There is no magic.
310. 10:32It is oil, natural gas, and coal.
311. 10:35>> It's It's interesting that the two wars
312. 10:37in progress threaten the world's natural
313. 10:39gas supply, a lot of it.
314. 10:41>> Yep, 20% is out of Qatar of the world's
315. 10:44LNG liquefied natural gas. Right.