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0:00You have manifested this. Yet, you
0:02believe the law of attraction is
0:03The universe doesn't give you
0:05what you [music] want. It does not give
0:07a damn about what you want. Your mind
0:09will only manifest what your
0:12subconscious feels is safe for you to
0:15have. Budgeting and saving will actually
0:18slow down your wealth accumulation.
0:21Really? Because as soon as you start
0:22budgeting [music]
0:23and saving, you're telling your brain
0:25that money is scarce. I don't walk this
0:28world alone. Every single person
0:30listening to this podcast [music] has a
0:31guardian angel. They can only help when
0:33you ask. They can't interfere. My mind
0:35says one thing, my heart says another
0:37thing. I don't know what to listen to.
0:38My intuition told me, you have to leave.
0:44Vishen,
0:45I'm so grateful you're here.
0:46>> Thank you, Cash.
0:47>> The fact that we're friends and doing
0:49this just makes it that much more
0:50special.
0:51>> And fun.
0:51>> And fun, yeah, exactly. I mean, you have
0:53quite literally, ever since you and I
0:55have become friends, you have impacted
0:57my life in so many different ways.
0:58>> I'm honored to hear that.
1:00>> Directly and indirectly, through people,
1:01through yourself directly, like just so
1:03many different ways.
1:04But what I The reason I really wanted to
1:05bring you on is because you
1:07fundamentally have built such a massive
1:09company, Mindvalley. You have manifested
1:11this. Yet, you believe the law of
1:13attraction is
1:14>> Not quite.
1:15>> Tell our audience.
1:16>> So, the law of attraction that so many
1:19people talk about
1:21is basically bunk.
1:22And I'm not saying that based on my
1:25observation, I'm saying that based on
1:26the conversation I had with many of the
1:28teachers in the hit film The Secret. You
1:31see, Secret came out 20 years ago,
1:32right? That became the best-selling DVD
1:34of all time. What many people don't know
1:35is I was one of the people, after The
1:38Secret came out, who worked directly
1:40with Bob Proctor, directly with Lisa
1:42Nichols, directly with the Reverend
1:43Michael Beckwith, helping them create
1:45programs to get their ideas out to the
1:48world. Many of these people became my
1:49friends. Bob Proctor, Lisa Nichols, they
1:51became my mentor. Lisa was like an older
1:53sister to me.
1:5520 years after The Secret, as Mindvally
1:57was taking off, I was friends with those
2:00of them that were still around. Bob had
2:01passed away, but I got to ask them, "If
2:04you could update what you were saying in
2:06The Secret, what would you say?" One of
2:08the most interesting conversations it
2:09was with Michael Beckwith. We were
2:11having breakfast in Portugal and
2:12Beckwith looked at me and he said, "The
2:15law of attraction is bunk. Rather, what
2:18I want everyone to understand is this,
2:21the universe doesn't give you what you
2:22want. No, the universe will reflect back
2:26to you who you are."
2:28"This," he said, "is the law of
2:31resonance. The universe mirrors back to
2:33you your identity. It will never give
2:35you what you want. It does not give a
2:37damn about what you want, but it will
2:39reflect back to you whatever identity
2:42you carry forward. So, become
2:46in your mind that which you want to
2:49attract." So, when you say you want to
2:50become
2:51>> that which you wish to attract, I
2:53guarantee you there are people listening
2:55and that sounds like such a lofty idea.
2:57How can we practically start to break
2:59that down into something so someone can
3:01literally wake up tomorrow and say, "I
3:03need to be this person in order to
3:04attract XYZ?"
3:05>> That's the great secret, isn't it? This
3:07is the great secret to manifesting.
3:09And I came across this
3:12based on a research project I did last
3:14year. Last year, Mindvally, my company,
3:17organized a huge manifesting summit in
3:19Los Angeles. We had tens of thousands of
3:22people, 13,000 people bought a ticket.
3:24We had Gwyneth Paltrow on stage, Joe
3:25Dispenza, Roxane Gay, Lisa Nichols,
3:27David Goggins, all of the manifesting
3:29experts. And we took all of their work
3:32and we put it into a computer system and
3:34we started to look at what are the
3:35common patterns. And [clears throat]
3:37they were unique blocks that started
3:40coming out. There were 10 overall, 10
3:42things that prevent you from
3:43manifesting. Now, these 10 things fall
3:46into four blocks and what I'd love to
3:48do, if you want me to explain this, talk
3:50about these four things
3:51>> 100%.
3:52>> and show how with a tiny little tweak,
3:54you can change the way you hit your
3:56goals. You can change the way you
3:57attract what you want into your life.
3:59So, the first thing I want you to
4:00understand is this. Manifesting is like
4:04a road trip. This road trip analogy is
4:06probably going to change your life when
4:07you understand it. So, on a road trip,
4:09there's a destination you want to get
4:11to. So, I remember I love doing road
4:12trips in America with my kids and we
4:14love going to Yosemite, Yellowstone
4:16National Park. We love doing road trips
4:18to the park. So, the destination is the
4:21park.
4:22Getting into our car, packing the car,
4:24getting started, that is the beginning
4:26of the journey to that which we want to
4:28manifest, the park. Now, when you're on
4:30a road trip, there are four things that
4:32matter. And what people don't understand
4:34is that these four things in the road
4:37trip analogy directly correspond to the
4:40four greatest areas of resistance that
4:43keep you stuck. Now, the first is inner
4:45identity. Okay? This is basically the
4:48model of the car. Are you driving a
4:50Bentley or are you driving a beat-up
4:53Honda Accord from 1989? The model of the
4:56car is the identity. Now, let me explain
4:58what that means. The identity is who do
5:02you see yourself as? And what are you
5:04ready for?
5:05That's your identity. See, I want to
5:08pick Let let let's pick a common thing
5:09that people want to manifest. How about
5:11a partner? Okay, so let's go straight to
5:13dating, okay? A partner.
5:16It's one of the most common things that
5:17people want. Now,
5:19the interesting thing about trying to
5:21manifest a partner is this. And I want
5:23you to remember,
5:24your mind will only manifest what
5:28your subconscious feels is safe for you
5:31to have.
5:33So, you may think you want a partner,
5:36but if you are still hurting from past
5:39relationship trauma where you were
5:41controlled, where you didn't have
5:42freedom, where you didn't have intimacy,
5:44where you had your feelings hurt, your
5:46subconscious is going to hijack every
5:49single attempt to manifest that partner.
5:52Every single attempt. Your mind will not
5:55get you what you want
5:57unless your subconscious feels safe to
6:00let you step into that. What is our
6:02subconscious? It protects us. As you're
6:04listening to this podcast, you're
6:05breathing, but you're not telling
6:07yourself to breathe. Your subconscious
6:08is controlling your breathing. Your
6:10subconscious is controlling your
6:11biology. Your subconscious is
6:13controlling your manifesting.
6:15So, I sat down with the legendary
6:18teacher Katherine Woodward Thomas. She
6:20wrote the book Calling in the One, which
6:21is the one of the top books on
6:23manifesting your soulmate. And this is
6:25what I learned from her. She said, "You
6:26want to manifest your soulmate? Forgive
6:28every single one of your exes." Because
6:31as long as you carry hurt, anger towards
6:35an ex, you're carrying a fear on a
6:37future relationship. You're carrying a
6:38fear that you're going to be controlled.
6:39You're carrying a fear that you're going
6:39to lose your freedom. You're carrying a
6:41fear that you're going to wake up next
6:42day and find yourself not attracted to
6:44someone that you put a ring on. Every
6:45single one of those fears
6:48hijacks you attracting the next person.
6:50So, how do you solve that? Forgive,
6:52forgive, forgive. You know, in
6:54Katherine's work, I became the official
6:55publisher of Katherine's work Calling in
6:57the One.
6:58It's not a lecture. It's mostly
7:00meditations.
7:01You go through meditation after
7:04meditation after healing. I went I was
7:07married to the same woman for 19 years,
7:09and then we went through a divorce.
7:11We did a conscious uncoupling. Katherine
7:13actually advised us, and we did a
7:15conscious uncoupling.
7:16And when we did that, when we decided we
7:18were going to part ways after 19 years,
7:20two kids, you can imagine that, right?
7:22One of the things we did is we meditated
7:24to heal any type of trauma that we had
7:27with each other. We forgave each other.
7:29To this To this day, with now being
7:31divorced for 8 years, she's one of my
7:32closest friends.
7:33>> Aw, that's beautiful.
7:35>> Cuz I made the effort to heal every
7:37single barrier to love. Mhm. that's
7:40inner identity.
7:42What's really going on inside you? Your
7:45identity is not who you show up as. It's
7:47not the affirmations you tell yourself.
7:50It's what your subconscious says you
7:52are.
7:54And if that is not completely aligned,
7:58manifesting won't happen. Your
8:00subconscious will only give you what it
8:01feels it is safe for you to receive. So,
8:04that's an inner identity block.
8:06The inner identity is the make and model
8:07of the car. But, what else do we need in
8:09a road trip? We need to pay attention to
8:11the fuel. We need to pay attention to
8:12the GPS. And we need to pay attention to
8:14your driving skills. Each of these ideas
8:16represents one of the core barriers to
8:19manifesting. So, let's go on to the next
8:21one, the fuel. So, what is fuel? It's
8:23what the car runs on. What is the fuel
8:26for a human being? It's your feelings.
8:28It's your emotions. Studies, for
8:30example, show that when you are happy at
8:31work, you do better at work. Right? Your
8:34feelings and your emotion are your fuel.
8:36>> Mhm.
8:37>> That's why motivation matters, because
8:39motivation gives you the fuel to keep
8:40going. Happiness gives you fuel to keep
8:43doing your job. The feeling of love you
8:46have in a relationship gives you fuel to
8:47keep investing in that relationship. So,
8:49your fuel matters. But, here's the
8:51mistake people make with fuel.
8:54And there are two mistakes. One is, they
8:56fail to understand that we, as human
8:59beings, are deeply influenced by the
9:02environment we are in.
9:03>> Mhm.
9:04>> So, your tribe, your friends, your
9:07family, even your room,
9:10will influence your manifesting.
9:12So, you want to hear something crazy?
9:13>> Yeah.
9:13>> I grew up in Asia, in East Asia. And in
9:16China, in Hong Kong, in Singapore, in
9:18Malaysia, people believe in a concept
9:20called feng shui, that there's an energy
9:21in the space around you. So, simple
9:23things like how you align your room, how
9:25you align your desk. I know real
9:27property developers who would when they
9:29build a skyscraper in Malaysia, they
9:32spend a million dollars on a feng shui
9:34consultant.
9:35>> Mhm.
9:36>> Now, this is not just ancient Chinese
9:37wisdom, it's also practical. It's where
9:40you position the door and so on. Why?
9:42Because they believe your environment
9:43matters.
9:45And I've witnessed this in my own life.
9:47I've had Feng Shui experts like Marie
9:48Diamond come to me in my office and say,
9:51"Vishen, you got to change this. Put
9:53your desk in that direction. Shift
9:54that."
9:55And I did that as an experiment and I
9:57saw a massive boost in revenue.
10:00So one thing is the space around you.
10:03Now, the space around you is also
10:05influenced by who is in that space.
10:08Do you have a family member who poops on
10:10your goals? Are you associating with
10:13friends who don't care about their
10:14health? Who are cynical about love?
10:17That's going to impact you.
10:18>> Yeah.
10:19>> And then it's your emotions. It's your
10:21fuel. What are you watching? What are
10:22you reading? Are you hooked on negative
10:24social media? Are you reading books
10:26about how men or women suck?
10:28Or are you truly immersing yourself in
10:32the feeling of love around people who
10:35light you up? Again, back to the
10:37attracting a partner, how do you adjust
10:39your fuel? Go to conferences where you
10:41will meet positive people who are
10:43learners, who are growers.
10:45The most fascinating, amazing woman I've
10:48met that I've dated, we met at a
10:49conference because they were learners.
10:52They wanted to grow. They wanted to
10:53learn. That's people with great fuel.
10:56Right? Especially wellness conferences,
10:58longevity, personal growth.
11:00>> Yeah, same.
11:00>> And then the other thing is
11:02organize your space.
11:04Organize your room. So I had the great
11:06Feng Shui consultant Marie Diamond do my
11:09home.
11:10And some of the things she told me was
11:11really interesting.
11:12>> Yeah, what did she say? I'm curious.
11:13>> Well, she said, "Vishen, you want to
11:14attract a soulmate? Look at your closet,
11:16okay? There's no space. If you have a
11:18partner, there's no space for them for
11:20them to hang things. Create a space in
11:22your closet." She said, "If you're
11:23trying to attract a soulmate, never have
11:26a new you have a queen bed. Never push
11:28it against the wall."
11:30Act as if you have a partner. Your
11:32partner can't basically Spider-Man jump
11:35their way into bed. They have to come
11:36around the other side. She said, "Have
11:39two bedside tables, one for you, one for
11:41the partner that you're going to
11:42attract." And on the partner's bedside
11:44table, be considerate. Put a charger for
11:47their phone.
11:48Put a pitcher with water. Act as if it's
11:52already happening. Every morning when
11:54you wake up, she says, "Whether you
11:55believe in feng shui or not,
11:57you're already aligning yourself with
11:59the idea that you're going to be sharing
12:01your space. Create the space and step
12:04into spaces with the right energy and
12:07the right people. That's number two.
12:09That's the fuel. But now, there's number
12:11three, the GPS.
12:13The GPS is where we get lost.
12:16The GPS is what can drive us away from
12:19our goal. Now, what is a GPS? A GPS is
12:22your map. Now, the problem with many
12:24people is they are using outdated maps.
12:28So, you think you're on the right path
12:31to Yellowstone,
12:33but you're actually going on an outdated
12:35route when there's a superhighway that's
12:36been created. Or you think you want to
12:39take the scenic route, but you take the
12:41ugly route. So, when we talk about maps,
12:43what we're really talking about is what
12:45rules are you subscribing to? And you
12:47know, your podcast is all about
12:48relearning.
12:50Human beings need to constantly relearn
12:51because our culture, our society is
12:52constantly changing. So many of us are
12:54stuck into outdated rules of how the
12:55world works. In my writing, I call these
12:58rules, b r u l e s, or rules.
13:03And we are constantly operating based on
13:05rules about society, about
13:08spirituality, about love.
13:10Okay, so, let's talk about dating.
13:13Do you really want a partner?
13:15Do you really want to be married? Or is
13:17that something your culture is telling
13:18you you need to have? Is that something
13:20your Indian mother is pushing you to do?
13:22Make me grandkids.
13:24Is that what you really want?
13:26Are your desires coming
13:29from someone else?
13:32Or are your desires coming truly from
13:33your soul?
13:35So, there's such a thing as mature and
13:36immature desires.
13:38A mature desire is a desire that's
13:40coming from the soul.
13:42You want a relationship, but there are
13:43certain things you want.
13:45I know a
13:46a couple that's in an incredible
13:48relationship, but they constructed it
13:49their way. Okay, now, I'm not saying
13:52this is right or wrong, right? But, the
13:53way they constructed their relationship,
13:55they spend 1 month together, then they
13:57spend 1 month apart, then they spend 1
13:59month together, then they spend 1 month
14:01apart.
14:02And I asked this lady, the the the lady
14:04who was in this relationship structure,
14:06"Why do you do that?" And she goes, "Who
14:09says that I have to follow the standard
14:11model?
14:12What's the divorce rate?" And I go,
14:13"55%." She goes, "See? So, you're
14:16telling me I should follow a standard
14:18model
14:19with a with a failure rate that high?"
14:22And then she said something that I'll
14:23never forget.
14:25I said, "Are you married to your
14:26partner?" She goes, "Yes." I go, "But,
14:28you don't wear a ring." She goes,
14:30"The ring
14:31is the most unspiritual thing you can
14:33do."
14:34>> What?
14:35>> She says, "A ring is basically
14:38a promise of giving up your freedom."
14:41>> Oh.
14:42>> She says, "I create a verbal and an
14:45energetic commitment with my partner.
14:48>> Wow.
14:48>> That we will be together as long as
14:49we're growing, as long as we love each
14:51other. That death do us apart thing,
14:54that is a construct from the 17th
14:56century, and I will not subscribe to
14:59it."
14:59>> Wow.
15:00>> "Because there will be a point," she
15:01says, "when my partner and I are growing
15:03in different directions,
15:04and we will part ways as friends.
15:06The ring," she said, "is the least
15:09spiritual thing that people do in a
15:11relationship. You basically imprison the
15:13other. And what happens when you put
15:15that ring is, you are both now
15:17prescribing to a societal construct. The
15:20problem with that societal construct is
15:22that very often you stay together even
15:24when things are off and that's why so
15:27many people in relationships are sad,
15:30are disappointed. You and I both are
15:31Indian. You know what's the divorce rate
15:33in India?
15:343%.
15:35Right, divorce isn't bad, but in India
15:37this culture is so tight that so many
15:41people in India stay in miserable
15:43marriages
15:44>> Yeah.
15:44>> because they are afraid to divorce
15:45because they think divorce is wrong and
15:47I say that because I went through that.
15:49>> Yeah.
15:49>> I went through that. I thought it was
15:50wrong until I started awakening. When I
15:54announced my conscious uncoupling it was
15:56really interesting. So many Indian and
15:58Arab women wrote to me on Instagram and
16:00said, "Thank you for showing us that one
16:02can part ways in a spiritual manner."
16:05>> Wow.
16:05>> Because my husband and I have been
16:06miserable for years.
16:07>> Mhm.
16:08>> But we felt guilty getting a divorce.
16:09Several wrote to me and said, "I've been
16:11abused for years but I couldn't get a
16:14divorce and now I understand that
16:16divorce is not bad. So the ring, one of
16:18the least spiritual things
16:20a human can do.
16:21That's from the spiritual teacher I
16:23interviewed. But the most important
16:24thing is this. So a couple of years ago
16:26the Indian mystic Sri Sri Ravi Shankar
16:28invited me to India to interview him.
16:31And I was interviewing him on stage at
16:32this huge event. It was a women's a
16:34leadership event and a lady on in the
16:36audience asked this mystic
16:39a question and the question was this.
16:41What is the best type of relationship to
16:43be in?
16:44And Sri Sri Ravi Shankar held up his
16:45fingers like that and he said, "Look at
16:47my fingers.
16:48In an ideal relationship
16:50you are never moving towards each other.
16:53He says if you do that you will
16:54eventually miss. Okay? In an ideal
16:56relationship both of you are steady. You
16:59are firm. You have your identity.
17:02You have the things in life that you
17:04love
17:05and you're moving in parallel.
17:08>> Wow.
17:08>> So he said, "Never sacrifice or give up
17:12your dreams, your goals for your partner
17:14because you will start resenting your
17:15partner
17:16>> Mhm.
17:16>> and your partner should never do that
17:18either.
17:19But both of you support each other. So,
17:21never point it towards each other, in
17:24parallel with each other. Now, the
17:25mistake people make is as soon as they
17:27step into a relationship, they start
17:28losing their identity.
17:29>> I want to ask, coming back to the GPS
17:31point. So, you're on point number three
17:32on GPS.
17:33>> Right.
17:34>> And so, there's immature desire and
17:36there's mature desire and there's a
17:37difference.
17:38>> Immature desire are outdated maps of the
17:40world. Mature desire is the updated GPS
17:44with satellite link.
17:46>> Nice.
17:46>> It's the fastest way to get to the goal
17:48based on modern maps. It means listening
17:50to your soul and getting clarity
17:53on what you want.
17:54>> I guarantee there are people listening
17:56who are like, my mind says one thing, my
17:58heart says another thing. I don't know
17:59what to listen to.
17:59>> Yeah, that's a misalignment. That's a
18:01that's a dysfunctional GPS.
18:03>> So, how do you know what your soul is
18:05actually craving or desiring? How do you
18:07know it's your soul speaking?
18:08>> There's a concept I really believe in
18:09called intuition.
18:11And here's the the truth about the
18:12world. We're building a world where more
18:13people are obsessed with AI than
18:15obsessed with that still inner voice
18:17within. But that inner voice within is
18:19what has guided humanity for hundreds of
18:21thousands of years and we need to learn
18:23to go back to that inner voice.
18:26That inner voice is what can help you
18:29identify if something is right, if a
18:31relationship is right, if there's
18:32something you need to step into, grow
18:34into, adjust, pivot, to move into the
18:37direction that you want. That inner
18:39voice is your ultimate GPS.
18:41>> What are practical ways to hear it?
18:43>> Look at that cup that you're holding
18:44right now.
18:45>> Mhm.
18:47>> I learned this technique from Sonia
18:48Choquette. She's one of the top
18:49intuition teachers in the world.
18:52Just observe that cup and be in the
18:54moment for a second.
18:56Observe the patterns on
18:58the ceramic,
19:00the color.
19:01Just stay with that.
19:03Move your fingers around it, feel it. If
19:05you're sitting on a desk, do that with
19:07the wood grains on the desk or anything
19:09that looks
19:10beautiful around you. Could be a carpet,
19:13could be a curtain, could be the texture
19:14of your fabric. Just bring yourself and
19:17make yourself connected
19:19with present reality. Not a device,
19:22not something electronic, not a gadget.
19:24Now, as you do this, you actually still
19:25your mind. You become present.
19:28You're coming into the moment.
19:31Now, think about the answer that you're
19:33seeking
19:34and ask yourself
19:36a yes or no question.
19:38Should I ask this person out? Yes or no.
19:40Should I invest in this stock? Yes or
19:42no. Okay, you're going to ask a question
19:45and then you're going to simply check in
19:46with your heart and you're going to say
19:48or your soul, whatever is more resonant
19:50to you, and you're going to say, "And my
19:52soul says
19:53first response, yes or no. And my soul
19:55says yes or no. And my soul says yes or
19:57no." If you get three yeses,
20:00that's your intuition speaking to you.
20:03So, that's a simple technique,
20:05but it involves quieting the mind. Okay,
20:07so if I was doing it, let's say
20:09I would want to to know if I should ask
20:11this person out.
20:13Think about the person.
20:14Nobody wants to go on a date that's
20:15going to waste your time.
20:17Check in with my soul and I'd say,
20:19"Should I ask this person out?" And then
20:21I respond, "And my soul says yes."
20:23"And my soul says yes."
20:25"And my soul says yes."
20:27Good. I'm going to do it. But we do it
20:30not by prompting ChatGPT,
20:32>> [laughter]
20:33>> but by actually doing the opposite,
20:35coming to any object that reminds us of
20:38nature.
20:39Our connection to nature, our connection
20:41to life. Plants,
20:44touching the texture of a plant, the
20:46wood grain on a table. These are all
20:47things that really give you peace.
20:50>> So, ground yourself.
20:51>> Exactly.
20:53>> Ask these questions and then you'll be
20:54able to hear exactly
20:55>> Yeah. Simple yes or no question.
20:57>> Can this be applied to even the micro
21:00aspects of life and the macro or is this
21:01just
21:01>> Exactly. I mean, my story is I built up
21:04Mindvalley because I was I was working
21:07in a technology company in Silicon
21:08Valley. The dot-com bubble had burst.
21:10I'd become homeless. I basically had
21:12lost everything. I'd borrowed money from
21:14my dad to start a company. I had
21:16nothing. I was renting a sofa from a
21:18college student in Berkeley.
21:20So, I get this job and I'm failing at
21:22it. I had to call up lawyers in San
21:24Antonio, Texas and pitch them on legal
21:27case management software.
21:29And so many of these lawyers, I'd
21:30interrupt them on the uh in the middle
21:31of their day and they were pissed. And
21:35one day after I was told to f off 13
21:37times, I sank into a depression. So, I
21:39was googling online. I find this
21:40meditation class. I go over the class
21:42and it's all about meditation and
21:45listening to intuition.
21:47And the class, you know, it teaches you
21:49meditation. They use hypnotherapy. They
21:51use all of these techniques to awaken
21:52your intuition.
21:53I go back to work.
21:56Start my work on Monday.
21:58Now, back then we used the yellow pages.
22:00And you're probably too young to know to
22:02know what the yellow pages are. It's an
22:04ancient artifact from the year 1990. So,
22:07we used the yellow pages and I had to
22:08call every name in order, right? We just
22:10went the A to Z method. But this time,
22:13checked in with my intuition, ran my
22:15finger down the book, and I would just
22:17go yes or no, yes or no, yes or no. All
22:21right. Now, in this company, every
22:23single call was logged. Everything was
22:25metrics driven. Everything was in
22:27Microsoft Excel. Overnight, my sales
22:31doubled.
22:32Just from that technique, lead scoring,
22:34who knew, with intuition.
22:36Overnight, I doubled the sales. As I got
22:39better with it, I doubled it again. Then
22:41I doubled it again. In 4 months, I got
22:43promoted three times. I was made VP of
22:45sales at the age of 26. I got so
22:47successful at my job using intuition
22:50that I became the number one performer.
22:52And then at the certain point, my
22:53intuition told me,
22:55"You have to leave and start something."
22:58And I remember that day, it was New
22:59York, the rain was pouring. I was
23:01walking with with my then girlfriend and
23:04there was this calling, you got to
23:05leave, you have to do something on your
23:07own. So, I asked myself, well, what
23:08would I build? And there's this quote by
23:10Nelson Mandela that I really love cuz my
23:13mom is a teacher, um a retired teacher.
23:15The quote is this,
23:17if you want to change the world, change
23:19education. So, I thought, well, no one
23:21was teaching intuition, no one was
23:23teaching meditation, it wasn't popular
23:24then. So, I started a simple meditation
23:26website called Mindvalley way back in
23:282003. And that became a company that
23:32exploded. Yeah.
23:33>> So, it all came from that one moment
23:35when you were learning how to figure out
23:37your own intuition.
23:38>> Exactly. Exactly. Because I realized
23:40that the expensive degree I had from the
23:42University of Michigan, one of the top
23:43five engineering schools in the world,
23:45that got me to homelessness.
23:47I was literally homeless, Cash.
23:49I couldn't afford rent. I was renting a
23:52couch, a two-seater couch from a college
23:54kid for 200 bucks a month.
23:56And I was sleeping on other couches from
23:58generous friends in San Francisco in the
24:01Bay Area who gave me a place to stay. I
24:03I it was miserable.
24:05>> That was from a university education?
24:06>> That's from a university education.
24:07>> Wow.
24:08>> Yeah.
24:08>> And it was spiritual education and human
24:11>> Exactly.
24:11>> consciousness education that helped you
24:13>> And intuition.
24:14>> Yeah. That helped you get to you where
24:15to where where you are today.
24:16>> So, we talked about the third block, the
24:18map. The fourth block is the most
24:19interesting.
24:21That's the driver. Okay, so there's the
24:22make it model of the car, that's your
24:24inner identity. Okay, it's your inner
24:26identity. Then there is the field,
24:28that's your environment, your emotions.
24:30And then there is the GPS, that is your
24:33maps. Are you using Are you chasing
24:35something that's actually coming from
24:36outside you or are you really listening
24:38to your soul and your heart? Remember
24:39Steve Jobs said, always listen to your
24:41heart and intuition, they somehow
24:43already know who you are to become.
24:45>> You you know much about Dharma?
24:46>> Yeah, I'm a big believer in Dharma.
24:49>> This reminds me when you speak about
24:50GPS, all I'm thinking about all that's
24:51screaming in my mind is Dharma because
24:53when you align to your Dharma, your
24:55Dharma protects you. That's what the
24:56Vedic philosophy speaks about.
24:57>> wonderful Hindu Kush. I believe in that
25:00and I agree with that.
25:01>> But the the idea being that your Dharma
25:03is your highest, most authentic,
25:05expressed self.
25:06>> Yes.
25:06>> Serving your highest, most authentic
25:08purpose. So, it's literally your soul's
25:09calling.
25:09>> Right.
25:10>> Um when you align to that, you align to
25:12universal order. So, it very much is in
25:14line with this principle of basically
25:16listening to your soul.
25:17>> All right.
25:17>> The right GPS essentially.
25:19>> Exactly. So, I listen
25:21to So, so your GPS is giving you a
25:22direction, right? That's your Dharma.
25:24So, I I figured out my Dharma at an
25:26early age. Elevate consciousness.
25:28So, all my companies that were growing
25:31consciousness would succeed. Mindvalley
25:34went on to do 140 million in revenue a
25:36year
25:38with no VC money.
25:39>> Wow.
25:39>> Cuz I went to VCs and they thought I was
25:40crazy. They're like, "Meditation?
25:42Consciousness? No."
25:44>> Really?
25:45>> But I was incredibly successful, but I
25:47tried other companies and I would fail.
25:49It's like the universe was saying,
25:51"Nope. This is not your Dharma. Your
25:52Dharma is elevate consciousness."
25:55Now, recently
25:56my Dharma shifted.
25:58My Dharma right now is end loneliness.
26:01So, all the projects, every single
26:04company I'm doing
26:05is about connecting people and
26:08eradicating loneliness. I want to build
26:10a world where no one ever feels lonely
26:13cuz loneliness is the biggest
26:16pandemic of the modern era.
26:19What did we talk about when we started
26:20this conversation? You said, "Vishen,
26:22it's a pleasure interviewing you cuz
26:23you've introduced me to so many people."
26:25That's my Dharma.
26:26>> And I see it in everything that you do
26:27and what you create. Where does that
26:29stem from?
26:30>> It stems from my own inner loneliness.
26:32Sometimes I think the suffering that we
26:34go through in life, our sufferings are
26:37the breadcrumbs
26:39that can lead us to our Dharma.
26:41>> And so, you've experienced loneliness in
26:43the past?
26:44>> So many times. I was very lonely as a
26:46kid. I was very lonely as a teenager. I
26:49had skin disease.
26:51So, growing up, I mean, horrible acne.
26:52like really I remember my mom taking me
26:54to dermatologist I had to get injections
26:55in my face. Growing up in high school, I
26:57was
26:58called pimple face. I was bullied. I
27:01never
27:02went on a date until I was maybe 23 or
27:0524. I married my first girlfriend. I had
27:07no idea how to communicate with a girl.
27:09I had no idea, you know, it was freaking
27:11tough, Cash. So, I had to go through
27:13that, but I don't regret that
27:16because all of that made me who I am.
27:17But, when I grew up, now where I am, I
27:20have so many friends. I organize
27:21festivals around the world. I'm never
27:23lonely. I have kids I love. I have
27:26family I love. I'm so close to my
27:27parents.
27:28But, I see I know people
27:31that are so lonely.
27:33And it affects everything
27:36about their lives.
27:38It affects their health. It affects
27:41their their emotions. And that's what I
27:44want to end.
27:45So, I commit it
27:47that the next company I'm building
27:50it has to serve this one dharma,
27:52loneliness. Because loneliness saddens
27:55me. And when you get to that stage where
27:57you're truly lonely, everything else
27:58starts plummeting. Happiness goes down.
28:01Health goes down.
28:02You can't focus on your career. But,
28:05when you fix that, everything elevates.
28:07So, I was I remember talking to Gary
28:09Brecka, the the longevity guy. We were
28:11in an event together and somebody asked
28:12him, "What are the two most important
28:14things for longevity?" And he goes, "You
28:15know, it's not all of those supplements,
28:16not all of those gadgets, it's
28:19community
28:20and connection to a higher power. But, I
28:22want to come to the fourth thing Yes.
28:24of manifesting. And sorry, loneliness
28:26gets me every time.
28:27>> Of course, yeah.
28:28>> The fourth thing is the driver.
28:30You know, when you first start driving a
28:31car
28:34you're nervous about everything. You're
28:35gripping the wheel. You're constantly
28:37looking behind you. You're you're
28:38worried that the mirror isn't perfectly
28:40aligned. But, after you practice for a
28:42while, you just naturally drive.
28:44Now, in manifesting, this is the
28:46difference between
28:47forcing and surrender.
28:50Remember that quote we started with the
28:51universe doesn't give you what you want,
28:53rather the universe will reflect back to
28:54you who you are.
28:56Now, if you're a person surrounded by
28:58love,
28:59you're not needy about love. You don't
29:01go into a date going, "Ooh, are they
29:03going to like me? Gosh, I hope they like
29:04me. Oh my god, is my pants okay? I
29:07forgot to iron my shirt." When you
29:10surrender, you already know you're okay.
29:12Surrender is a belief that you're going
29:14to be taken care of, that the universe
29:15has your back, that what is inevitable
29:19will not miss you.
29:21And if it misses you, it was never meant
29:23to be yours.
29:24Now, when that happens, the way you show
29:26up when you're meeting someone is
29:28different. There's no neediness. There's
29:31a confidence. There's a groundedness.
29:34You're okay even if that person doesn't
29:35like you. It means not meant to be.
29:38That is the experienced driver.
29:42So,
29:43in manifesting, when you put all four of
29:45these together, this is when what you're
29:47seeking starts coming to you.
29:50Paulo Coelho Coelho in The Alchemist
29:53said, "Everything that we want is a want
29:55of the universe. That which you are
29:56seeking is seeking you back."
30:00So, when you put all four of these
30:01together, you start understanding the
30:03truth that Coelho so eloquently
30:05articulated.
30:07You start understanding the truth that
30:09the Rumi spoke about when he said, "When
30:12I chase after what I want, my life is a
30:15furnace of distress and anxiety.
30:17But when I sit in my own place of
30:19patience, what I need comes to me
30:23without any pain.
30:25From this I understand that what I seek
30:27is seeking me, too.
30:30There's a great secret in this for all
30:32who wish to understand."
30:34>> I love that.
30:34>> Sitting in your own place of patience,
30:36that's the experienced driver, not the
30:38student worried about the mirror,
30:40worried about the guy overtaking him.
30:41So, putting it all together, if you're
30:43seeking to manifest number one, your
30:44inner identity, the make and model of
30:45the car on the road trip, okay?
30:48And what is inner identity? What do you
30:50feel safe going into? If you want to be
30:53a CEO, but you're afraid of leading
30:55people,
30:56your subconscious won't let you get that
30:58promotion. You want to start a company,
31:00but you don't feel safe handling money,
31:02your subconscious won't let you become a
31:04successful entrepreneur. That's inner
31:06identity, not identity, inner identity.
31:09Who does your subconscious say you are?
31:11Okay, that's the make and model of the
31:12car. Number two, your fuel,
31:16the space around you, the emotions
31:18dwelling within you, the people around
31:20you, everything that influences the
31:22energy. Fuel is energy that shifts your
31:25manifesting.
31:27Third, the GPS. Whose map are you using?
31:30A map that's true to you,
31:32or are you going in the direction that
31:35your father or mother or cultural media
31:36or politicians told you need to drive to
31:38with a map from their generation?
31:41So, know what you want. Clarity
31:44and an updated map.
31:45And the fourth one is going from
31:48gripping the wheel
31:50to basically turning on autopilot.
31:53That's trusting that we live in a
31:54benevolent universe and the universe has
31:56your back.
31:57And that what you seek is seeking you in
32:00return.
32:01That relationship you want is
32:03inevitable. And therefore, every date
32:05you go into, you go in with no
32:06neediness. And so, you become more
32:08charismatic. You become more desire.
32:11You become more confident and life is
32:13easier.
32:14This is how you approach manifesting. We
32:17used the example of attracting a
32:18soulmate, but you can apply this to
32:19money, you can apply this to business,
32:21you can apply this to having kids, you
32:23can apply this to health, you can apply
32:25this to every aspect of your life. The
32:27four aspects of a road trip. Have you
32:29got any stories that you can share with
32:30our audience of using those four when it
32:33comes to money?
32:34So again, let's go through the
32:36framework. First part is inner identity.
32:40Do you feel safe acquiring money?
32:43Now I realized when I 5 years into my
32:46business,
32:47I remember it was 2008 and I was
32:49struggling. Struggling, right?
32:51Cuz I had a belief, a very common
32:53immigrant belief that if you don't work
32:55hard,
32:56if you don't work hard for your money,
32:58you don't deserve money.
33:00The hard work equals success myth that
33:02so many, especially Asian parents put in
33:05our kids. So what happened in 2008 is
33:08I recently become a father, my son was 1
33:10year old, and I decided I needed to come
33:12back from work a little bit earlier.
33:14But that subconscious mind of mine
33:16decided, "Ha, you are going back from
33:19work an hour earlier to spend time with
33:21your kid, and that's good, but no money
33:23for you."
33:24And my business started collapsing
33:26because there was a conflict in my
33:27belief.
33:29And I found myself in a situation where
33:30I was going to have to like dismantle
33:31the business and lay off my staff, and I
33:33sank into a depression and what I did
33:35was I decided to just go into
33:38exploration. I attended events by Harv
33:39Eker. I flew to San Diego to attend an
33:42event by Esther Hicks, amazing. I read
33:45books by Neale Donald Walsch. I went on
33:47all of these like journeys with
33:49world-class teachers, and at a certain
33:50moment, I remember I was sitting in a
33:52room, it was a Harv Eker seminar. He
33:54wrote the book Secrets of a Millionaire
33:55Mind, and he put up this rule
33:57and he called it the hard work equals
34:00money rule. Do you believe that hard
34:02work is what requires money? And as soon
34:05as he pointed it out, I realized,
34:07"Whoa, I was prescribing to an outdated
34:11idea."
34:13That realization, as soon as I realized,
34:15"Wait a minute, I I don't want to
34:17subscribe to that anymore. I want to
34:19unplug that. Why does that even make
34:21sense?"
34:22That realization shifted everything.
34:24In 8 months, our business grew 400%.
34:29Well, I was trying all of these
34:30different things. In the next 8 months,
34:31to write advice as came, the right
34:33people came, the offers started working.
34:36And Mindvalley was born.
34:38So, that is inner identity. I suddenly
34:42no longer felt that guilt that hard work
34:45equals money. I could make money and be
34:47a good father and have time for my baby.
34:50Okay, now we come to number two. So, the
34:52question to you is if money is not
34:54coming, what are your beliefs about
34:55money? Do you believe that you need to
34:57work hard? Do you believe that money is
34:59the root of all evil? Do you believe
35:00that rich people are
35:02If you have any of these beliefs, you're
35:04stepping on the brake.
35:06Number two, fuel. If you want to attract
35:08money,
35:09are you acting like someone that's
35:11abundant? Something really interesting
35:13happened over the last 10 years. I I was
35:15running my podcast and I interviewed a
35:17lot of financial experts from the mental
35:19and spiritual side, Ken Honda, Ramit
35:21Sethi, and a lot of them said one thing.
35:24Budgeting and saving will actually slow
35:27down your wealth accumulation.
35:30>> Really?
35:30>> Because as soon as you start budgeting
35:32and saving, you're telling your brain
35:34that money is scarce. Instead, what they
35:36say is and I learned this from a a
35:38teacher called Rob Dial. It's called the
35:40five bucket model. Okay? So, the money
35:43that you're making, you have to create a
35:44mental model. Okay, so this is fuel
35:47because this creates safety, creates the
35:49right energy. So, what Rob Dial said is
35:52put five jars, you know, put five jars
35:54in your room and these jars represent
35:56what you do with your money. So, let's
35:57say you're earning a salary and we're
35:58just going to use a simple number,
36:0010,000. I know that's high for many
36:02people, but it's just easy math, okay?
36:0410,000. 5% of that, so 500, goes to
36:08charity every month.
36:09Give. Give. A lot of people I know who
36:11became incredibly wealthy, they said
36:14that because of their Muslim faith or
36:15their Christian faith, they donated
36:17money and it came back to them. So,
36:18that's 5%.
36:20Now, roughly 20% you put in long-term
36:24savings. Money that you're putting
36:25aside, you can put it in stocks. Okay,
36:27like index funds for the time when you
36:30need to get your book out. The time when
36:32you want to start your company.
36:34Okay, so that's 20%. So now we're at 25.
36:3755% is for your day-to-day.
36:39>> Mhm.
36:39>> 10% is investments. This is going to be
36:43stock market, index funds, property. You
36:45want to diversify, but even if you're
36:47starting with like 100 bucks, just buy
36:49in an index fund.
36:50>> Mhm.
36:50>> Index funds, they automatically grow by
36:52an average of 11% year-on-year. And the
36:53final 10% this is where people trip up.
36:57It's your luxury
36:59gift to yourself.
37:00>> Uh
37:00>> 10% of whatever you earn, you go and you
37:03spend it as if you are wealthy. Get the
37:06five-star hotel. Treat yourself and your
37:09partner to a glorious five-course French
37:11meal.
37:12What are you telling your mind? I'm
37:14wealthy.
37:15>> Yeah.
37:16>> So notice
37:17you are saving
37:18>> Mhm.
37:18>> but you're not saving for hard times,
37:20you're saving for the business you're
37:21going to start.
37:21>> Yeah.
37:22>> So that's how you shift your emotional
37:24energy around money.
37:25>> Mhm.
37:25>> The five buckets model. So I remember
37:27when I was first starting out, I learned
37:28this from Rob Rio Pell and I I I used
37:30this technique. Really powerful.
37:33Okay, but now we come to the the GPS.
37:37So the GPS is the map. So now you ask
37:40yourself, what are the rules about money
37:44that maybe are false?
37:47And so this you want to examine
37:49everything about whether you want to be
37:51in a job, whether you want to start a
37:53business, whether you want to go and
37:55invest in a particular type of training.
37:57So you want to look at what are outdated
38:00rules that everyone else is following
38:02but not going anywhere. And what are the
38:04rules that the wealthiest people are
38:05doing?
38:06>> Mhm.
38:07>> Right? And the wealthiest people
38:09they build businesses. They invest in
38:11stocks. They um invest in their own
38:14self-growth. Okay, so those those are
38:16important rules.
38:17One of the most important things you can
38:19do is put money aside. So in addition to
38:21that five buckets, you can create
38:22another bucket, another 5%, take it out
38:25from whatever you feel is is less
38:27relevant, and put that as a self-growth
38:30>> Mhm.
38:30>> investment. So, you're learning new
38:32rules. Making money is about learning
38:34new rules about money. Rules of passive
38:36income, rules of investment, rules of
38:38starting a business, rules of getting a
38:39promotion, rules of communication, cuz
38:41that's a meta skill that helps you grow
38:43everything else. Updating your GPS, and
38:45then the final thing is the driver.
38:47>> Mhm.
38:48>> Are you nervous about it?
38:49>> Mhm.
38:50>> Or are you acting and reacting to the
38:53world in a way where you know the
38:55universe has your back?
38:56>> Mhm.
38:57>> Because if you show up for an investor
38:59pitch, and you're nervous about it, they
39:01smell that. But if you show up knowing
39:03you're going to get that money,
39:05even if it's not this investor, it's
39:06someone else, that confidence makes a
39:08difference. If you're building a
39:10business and you're employing people,
39:11and you are nervous about hitting
39:13targets, about the business shutting
39:15down, your employees are secretly
39:16looking for a new job. But if you're
39:18confident, you can articulate the
39:19vision, you know where we're going,
39:22it's a different feeling.
39:23>> Mhm.
39:23>> So, the fourth thing is the driver. Do
39:26you trust that it's going to work out?
39:28>> Mhm.
39:29>> One of the reasons why I told you all my
39:30businesses are going to be focused on
39:32eradicating loneliness is because I so
39:34believe that if I focus on my dharma,
39:35it's going to work out. I'm creating
39:37that trust for myself. That trust now
39:40shows up whenever I'm in a meeting with
39:42my team of over 150 people.
39:44>> Mhm.
39:45>> So, these four ways are how you can
39:47bring this model together for
39:49manifesting investing money. Number one,
39:52okay, the making model of the car. What
39:54are your inner beliefs about rich people
39:56that are hijacking you? Number two,
39:58emotions, like are you budgeting for
40:00hard times cuz you're nervous about
40:01that? Are you using the five-bucket
40:03model?
40:03>> Mhm.
40:04>> Are you giving money away because you
40:05feel good about the energy of money?
40:09Third, the maps. What maps are you
40:11following? Are you studying, learning,
40:14investing, entrepreneurship, all the
40:15skills that can make money? And number
40:17four, do you feel it's inevitable?
40:19>> Yeah.
40:19>> And are you able to walk in trust?
40:22>> You know, it's so funny you say this
40:23because
40:24I remember at one point in my company
40:26we were getting stuck at a certain
40:28revenue.
40:30And everything I was doing just wasn't
40:32really shifting things.
40:34And I was really reflecting really hard.
40:36I was thinking, "What do I need to do
40:37differently?" And I was praying for it
40:38as well. I was thinking, "What do I need
40:39to do differently in order to
40:40basically double our revenue?" And the
40:42thing that came to mind was we need a
40:44system in order to donate to a cause
40:48that appeals to my soul.
40:50And so I found this charity called Food
40:51for All in London.
40:52And it's run by monks.
40:54>> Mhm.
40:54>> And these monks basically pray over the
40:55food. And so they energetically they
40:57basically energize the food. And then
40:59they serve it to all the homeless people
41:00in London. And they go to Ukraine. And
41:01currently they're in Venezuela because
41:02of the earthquake going on. They're
41:03basically just serving as much as they
41:04can.
41:05And it's entirely volunteer-led.
41:07And you have access to the financials.
41:09And for me that was like a okay, this is
41:11something that I can get behind and
41:12truly serve. And so I told the team that
41:15I basically told my assistant that
41:16whenever we're doing payroll, I want you
41:17to ensure that you donate X amount
41:20depending on the revenue that we're
41:20making, and just give it to this charity
41:22without any questions. And it really
41:24aligns with this model as you were
41:25speaking because it was initially me
41:27feeling safe with my subconscious about
41:29giving away money.
41:31Then it was um the emotions that were
41:34attached to it, which was like, "Oh, I
41:35want to give. I want to operate from
41:37love." Like it was a very It was a shift
41:39in my emotional state. And then the
41:40third being your GPS. Like it was my
41:42dharma to serve. So it was me aligning
41:44to to a soul calling.
41:46And then finally just surrendering and
41:47accepting that I think that this is the
41:49thing that's going to help us get to the
41:51next level. I don't know for sure. I
41:53don't know logically if it's going to
41:54make sense, but I just trust that it
41:55will.
41:56And our business doubled.
41:58>> Wow.
41:59>> And so this this model really does make
42:01sense in my head when you're speaking
42:02about it.
42:03I'm curious to know though
42:05where do affirmations come into this?
42:07>> Oh, that's very interesting, right? So I
42:09went deep into the work of José Silva,
42:11the um
42:12mind science pioneer of the '50s '60s.
42:14He basically built up the American
42:16personal growth movement, trained 10
42:17million people, and he said affirmations
42:19don't work. Instead, he used a a
42:22different model called positive
42:23statements.
42:25The model I use is an adaptation of that
42:27called lofty questions. So, let me
42:28explain, okay? Here's why affirmations
42:30don't work. We're going to go back to
42:31the first big group of blocks, inner
42:33identity. Every time you state an
42:35affirmation, you're stating it not to
42:38your conscious mind, to your
42:39subconscious.
42:40>> Mhm.
42:41>> But if your subconscious feels unsafe
42:43with you getting the thing, it will not
42:45do anything.
42:46So, for example, your affirmation is
42:49"Why am I in such a beautiful
42:50relationship?" Your subconscious mind is
42:52going, "Oh, no, the last relationship
42:53you were in you felt so trapped and you
42:55were constantly angry at your spouse.
42:57No, not making that happen."
42:59Another affirmation might be
43:01"I have tons of money. I have a million
43:03dollars in the bank account." Your
43:05subconscious is going, "Well, remember
43:06that rich uncle we had who was such an
43:09and would like bully you?
43:11Well, I'm making you rich cuz you're
43:13going to be an So, what you
43:15want to do is
43:16you want to give your subconscious
43:18respect. Our subconscious keeps us
43:21alive. Our subconscious job is what? To
43:23keep us safe. So, rather than make a
43:25declarative statement, you ask a
43:28question.
43:29A question get gets your subconscious
43:31going, "Hm,
43:32I need to look into this. I need to find
43:34a way."
43:35Now, these are called lofty questions.
43:37You don't say
43:39"I have a million dollars in the bank
43:40account." You say, "Why do I have a
43:42million dollars in the bank account? Why
43:44am I in such a committed relationship?
43:45Why do I have the fit muscular body of
43:47an athlete? Why am I so calm and
43:50confident? Why am I so effective in
43:52meetings? Why am I such a brilliant
43:54marketer?"
43:55You're not making a statement that makes
43:57your subconscious go, "Uh-uh, not safe."
43:59You're making a statement that makes
44:00your subconscious go, "Hm, okay, let me
44:02look into that. Let me try to understand
44:04how to get there." And lofty questions
44:07are the most powerful way to reshape
44:09your inner identity. I've taught this
44:11technique to millions of people and the
44:14the results that we see unbelievable.
44:17Now, here's the nuance.
44:18You can say it
44:20at the waking state, but the best time
44:22to say it is in the time of meditation.
44:24Cuz when you're meditating, your brain
44:26is in a hypnagogic state where whatever
44:29you command is more easily accepted into
44:32your subconscious. Jose Silva found
44:34this. The the particular brainwave state
44:36where this works well is the alpha level
44:38of mind, right? Measurable by an EEG
44:40device. And when are you in the alpha
44:42level of mind? When you wake up in the
44:43morning. First 5 minutes after you wake
44:45up, your brain waves normal brain waves
44:47beta level operating 14 to 21 cycles per
44:50second. When you wake up, it's at the
44:51alpha, which is 7 to 12 cycles per
44:53second. First 5 minutes when you wake
44:54up, after you brush your teeth, use the
44:56loo, sit in your bed, and just relax,
44:59and give yourself these lofty questions.
45:01That's what I do every day. Why do I
45:03have to fit muscular body of an athlete?
45:05Why is my skin getting better and better
45:07every day? Why does my body heal and
45:08rejuvenate itself when I sleep? Why am I
45:10in the most amazing relationship? Why do
45:11I have such a great relationship with my
45:13daughter and my son? Why am I such an
45:15incredible entrepreneur? Why am I so
45:17good at being on podcast? You know,
45:20whatever it is that you want to manifest
45:22and watch what happens.
45:24>> Wow.
45:25>> Your belief system will literally start
45:27shifting. Look, I've interviewed a
45:28thousand people. I've published over a
45:30hundred of the world's top programs in
45:33wellness, personal growth, and
45:34manifesting. This is the most powerful
45:36technique I've learned.
45:37>> To ask lofty questions.
45:38>> The most effective, the most powerful,
45:40and it's free.
45:41>> How long should we be asking those
45:42questions for?
45:43>> So, I ask myself 27 questions
45:46every morning. I've committed them to
45:47memory. You don't have to be that
45:48extreme. You can start with five. And
45:50you only ask it once. Once a day.
45:52>> Do you meditate just before?
45:53>> I relax.
45:54>> Okay. What kind of relaxation
45:55>> meditation. It's a form of active
45:57meditation. Like what Jose Silva or Osho
45:59was teaching. A form of active
46:01meditation where you're in a relaxed
46:02alpha level of mind, but you're giving
46:04your brain and your subconscious
46:07something to solve.
46:09>> Okay. So, you just sit down,
46:12you breathe slowly, you ground,
46:15and then you start asking those
46:16questions to yourself.
46:16>> Exactly.
46:17Exactly.
46:18>> And you do that for 5 minutes.
46:21>> If you have five questions, you're doing
46:22it in 20 seconds.
46:23>> Really? It's as simple as that. Wow.
46:26>> Once. Just ask once.
46:28>> When it comes to these lofty questions,
46:30I'm wondering,
46:31is it always a why, or can it also be
46:33like a how?
46:34>> I like to start with a why.
46:35>> Okay.
46:35>> I like to start with a why. I think how
46:38puts you in too much of an analytical
46:40why.
46:42I believe it's easier.
46:43>> And you can put it into anything, any
46:44part of your life.
46:45>> Exactly. So, example for healing,
46:48why is my body healing and rejuvenating
46:49itself as I sleep?
46:50>> Mhm.
46:51>> For social life, why do I have so many
46:53friends
46:54and such close friendships with them?
46:57Family, why am I so close to my mom and
46:59dad, to my kids? Money, why do I have
47:02avalanches of abundance raining down on
47:04me for all my dreams, desires, and
47:06intentions? I love that one.
47:08>> Yeah.
47:09>> For work, why do I solve all problems
47:12that come my way in a fun and easy way?
47:15For freedom, why do I have the capacity
47:18to take Fridays off every week and study
47:23things I'm passionate about?
47:24>> Mhm. Okay. This is really helpful. Where
47:27do you see God coming into manifesting?
47:29>> So, I believe in God.
47:30>> Okay.
47:31>> I born in a Hindu family, grew up in a
47:33Muslim country.
47:34I was baptized as a Christian when I got
47:36married to my my my girlfriend, my first
47:38girlfriend who was Estonian. God is a
47:40big part of my life.
47:41But, I used to be skeptical about God
47:43until I had a
47:45strange experience
47:47where I experienced an instant healing
47:50during a moment of prayer.
47:52So, this was one of the most profound
47:54experiences I've ever had.
47:56Now, I'd spent years teaching people
47:58meditation.
47:59And one of the things that we teach in
48:01the Silva method is how to go It's an
48:0318-hour program called Silva Ultramind.
48:04We teach you how to go to the alpha then
48:06theta level of mind. And when you're
48:08there, we teach you how to command your
48:09body to heal.
48:10Okay? It And it's been proven by
48:12science. For example, I healed my skin.
48:14I had a lot of acne.
48:17Five years, skin disease. I healed it in
48:195 weeks using Silva.
48:21Using the creative visualization
48:22technique that Jose Silva pioneered. And
48:24uh you command that to your
48:26subconscious. And
48:283 minutes three times a day, 5 weeks
48:30healed my skin. Okay? Silva Ultramind,
48:32just full disclosure. Um When Jose Silva
48:35died, the family asked me to be the face
48:36of it. And And now I I teach the program
48:38online. That was good. But the most
48:40remarkable healing I happened was when I
48:42was directly praying
48:44to Christ energy.
48:46And it wasn't in meditation. It was
48:48using psilocybin mushrooms.
48:51So, there are four ways we can access
48:53altered states of mind. Okay, now
48:55altered states of mind were a natural
48:57part of life. There was an
48:58anthropologist called Erika Bourguignon.
49:00In 1973, she did a study and she found
49:02that 70% of all indigenous cultures have
49:05an altered state practice. The Native
49:07American Indians would gather around a
49:08campfire. There would be dancing,
49:10martial arts, meditation. But then, the
49:13modern Western world said, "All of that
49:15is wrong unless you can prove it by
49:17science."
49:18But the science only started coming in
49:19in 2010. In 2010, studies in meditation
49:22took went through an exponential rise.
49:24And now we're seeing that in studies on
49:25breathwork, projection. Right? So, there
49:28are four ways to go to an altered state.
49:29And this is the secret. This is when you
49:31can talk to your subconscious and heal
49:33your body. All right? Now, it's
49:34meditation, breathwork, neurotraining,
49:37which is devices, most expensive, least
49:39effective. And then finally, plant
49:41medicine. So, I was experimenting with
49:44mushrooms cuz I experiment with altered
49:46states. That's part of my practice. I
49:48was doing mushrooms. And
49:51I was experiencing At that point a
49:53severe shoulder injury from years of
49:55martial arts and I needed to go for
49:57surgery to get a bit off the muscle in
49:59my shoulder like sliced out because I
50:02could not move my hand without pain and
50:04I'd had this for two or three years. So
50:06I'm on mushrooms and all of a sudden I
50:08don't pray much but I suddenly have this
50:11feeling of Christ's consciousness of of
50:14Jesus
50:15and
50:16I talk to Jesus and and and and I tell
50:19Christ consciousness would you help me
50:22with my shoulder? So at this point I'm
50:23meditating in bed and all of a sudden I
50:26feel like something is touching my
50:28shoulder.
50:30Like little little pricks.
50:31>> Wow.
50:31>> 20 minutes I'm just there feeling this
50:34and I feel it's all in my imagination
50:36and as the trip is winding down I move
50:38my hand and there's no pain. So I'm
50:39thinking okay this is pretty cool I
50:40probably reprogram my brain to shut off
50:42the pain receptors but I probably still
50:44have the injury.
50:45No.
50:46Months pass the pain doesn't come back.
50:48Now every year I go to New York and I go
50:50to this particular gym where they use a
50:51machine called ARX and you test your
50:53strength okay? And typically every part
50:55of my musculature my strength grows by 3
50:57to 5% when I tested my shoulders my
51:00shoulder strength had increased 850%.
51:04It was wild 850%
51:07after that experience. Yeah.
51:09This was
51:10up when I tested my shoulders. So what
51:12was that?
51:14So
51:15I don't know how to explain this.
51:18Was I talking to my body?
51:19Is Christ consciousness real?
51:22I don't know if you can prove this by
51:23science
51:24but I can only share what I experienced
51:26and now every time I need to heal an
51:29aspect of my my my beingness I either go
51:32into deep meditation or I facilitate it
51:35with a dosage of psilocybin and I pray
51:38and I've experienced things Cash where
51:40even eyesight I was diagnosed I needed
51:42to wear glasses this was October 2021.
51:45>> Mhm.
51:45>> Woke up the next day my eyesight was
51:47perfectly healed. I've experienced this
51:48over and over and over again.
51:50And this is one of the ways This is my
51:52greatest longevity hack. Psilocybin
51:54while praying to Christ.
51:55>> Wow.
51:56>> tested my biology, and my health markers
51:59showed that
52:00I'm 50, but I have the body of a
52:0230-year-old.
52:03>> There are people who are going to be
52:04listening to this who still disagree
52:05with the concept, but what do you would
52:07you have to say to that?
52:08>> Listen, if you disagree, I can tell you
52:10what I experienced. I'm not trying to
52:11explain it.
52:12>> Mhm.
52:13>> If you disagree, and and suddenly I'm
52:15not trying to advocate a particular
52:16religion. I practice all religions. My
52:19book is called Buddha and the Badass. I
52:20grew up in a Muslim country. I practice
52:22zakat. I pray to Christ consciousness. I
52:24was raised as a Hindu, so I believe in
52:26Dharma. I believe in Kabbalah, which it
52:28comes from Jewish tradition. I love the
52:31beauty of religion. Religion is
52:33different from dogma. I do not believe
52:35in any aspect of organized religion that
52:37says we are different from other people.
52:39>> Mhm.
52:40>> I do not believe in any aspect of
52:41organized religion that says you must
52:43only marry people of your religion, that
52:45your people are more important than
52:46other people, that only your God is
52:48right. Religion is like food to me. I
52:50want to taste everything
52:51>> Mhm.
52:52>> because everything leads to one thing,
52:54nutrition of the soul.
52:55>> Mhm.
52:56>> So, whether you pray to Christ, or you
52:58pray to Ganesh, or you pray to Allah, or
53:00you pray to Yahweh, or you pray to
53:01Buddha, it doesn't matter. But I believe
53:04at this point, based on the evidence
53:06I've seen, that there is something far
53:07greater than us, and science may never
53:10explain it.
53:11But because of what I've seen, I'm going
53:13to keep using it. The ancient Egyptians,
53:15they did not know what the sun was. They
53:17thought it was the god Ra flying across
53:19the sky, but they still used the sun for
53:21navigation, for warmth. They used the
53:24sun uh for for heat.
53:27So, just because we don't understand how
53:28something works, doesn't mean we can't
53:30use it.
53:30>> You go through life
53:32operating on a very practical material
53:35level, you know, building companies,
53:36getting into relationships, whatever,
53:37you know, but then you
53:39think from a alternative perspective in
53:41every single way.
53:43You know, we've discussed manifestation,
53:44we've discussed our relationship with
53:45God. I'm curious to know, what's the
53:47thing that you believe in your heart
53:49that we haven't discussed yet that you
53:51feel is a belief that is alternative
53:53that everyone should understand or
53:54believe that could shift every part of
53:57their reality?
53:58>> There are four beliefs in the spiritual
54:00field that science can no longer ignore.
54:04Now, the reason we dismiss so many
54:06things in spirituality is because when
54:08we entered the rational age, people who
54:10are at the rational level of mind
54:12confuse pre-rational spirituality with
54:15post-rational. Pre-rational spirituality
54:17is the spirituality before the 19th
54:19century, right? Burning bush, like
54:22magical trees and rocks and all of that
54:24stuff.
54:25But since the 1990s, there's been a new
54:27approach to spirituality that's been
54:29studied, documented at universities
54:31around the world, that's called
54:32post-rational. That's where we are
54:33studying intuition, it's been proven
54:35real, meditation, the placebo effect.
54:38So, post-rational spirituality is what
54:40I'm excited about.
54:42>> Mhm.
54:42>> Now,
54:43there was a book created by a a guy
54:46called Dean Radin. He's a PhD and he
54:48wrote a book called The Conscious
54:49Universe and it's all about the science.
54:51He did a meta-analysis of all of these
54:52different studies on spirituality and he
54:54said, "There are four things we can't
54:55ignore."
54:56One is
54:58human intuition.
54:59Another is the ability for the mind to
55:01heal the body.
55:03The third is out-of-body experiences.
55:05>> Mhm.
55:05>> And the fourth is reincarnation.
55:09There have been so many crazy studies
55:12and moments of evidence on reincarnation
55:14that we have to stop pretending that it
55:16is just a subject of religion.
55:19One of the most amazing books on it
55:21is Journey of the Soul by Michael
55:22Newton. So, he's a hypnotherapist.
55:26And by the way, hypnotherapists
55:28can hypnotize someone and get them to go
55:30back and remember, you know, moments
55:32when they were a child, but you can go
55:33beyond that and remember moments when
55:35you were in the womb. And you can go
55:37beyond that and remember moments in a
55:39past life.
55:40But also moments when you were a soul in
55:42between lives. So, Michael Newton's
55:44work,
55:45he wasn't looking at the past lives.
55:47He was looking at what was happening in
55:49the life between the life.
55:50>> Wow.
55:51>> And what he found is that there is a
55:53whole ecosystem of conscious beings,
55:57angels. There is such a place called
55:59heaven that the great religious texts
56:00have been describing. And we are souls
56:03in between our human lives. And we are
56:05often assigned into soul schools, and we
56:07have soul circles where we literally are
56:09learning with other souls. But we are
56:11also assigned to watch over
56:13the bravest souls, the ones who come to
56:16earth in a human body. And Michael
56:18Newton said one thing in his book that
56:19left me with chills. He said, "I've come
56:21to believe, based on my research, that
56:23every single person has a guardian
56:24angel." So, I believe, and my view of
56:27reality is this.
56:28I don't care about longevity. I'm
56:30healthy, but I have no fear of death.
56:34Because I believe that solidly in
56:35reincarnation.
56:37I believe that when I die, I get to come
56:39back as anyone I want in any timeline in
56:42history.
56:43In the spiritual world, time is not
56:44chronological. You can die in 2070 and
56:46decide to come back
56:48in
56:48the 11th century.
56:50But I also believe that I have a
56:52guardian angel.
56:53I believe that that energy that healed
56:55my shoulder, that was coming from
56:56somewhere.
56:57So, every time I feel lost, even if I'm
56:59in the middle of the night and I'm
57:00feeling stressed and I can't sleep, I
57:02ask my guardian angel, "Hey, could you
57:03help soothe my energy and help me
57:05sleep?"
57:06>> Wow.
57:07>> The reason I believe I've been lucky in
57:09this world
57:10is because I don't walk this world
57:12alone.
57:13I walk this world with
57:16what I believe is an energy of the
57:18universe
57:19that I can ask help for, that I can
57:22speak to. But the thing is, all of us
57:24have that.
57:25Every single person listening to this
57:26podcast has a guardian angel. But when
57:27was the last time you spoke to that
57:29guardian angel?
57:30When was the last time you asked it for
57:32help? When was the last time you decided
57:35to believe in something beyond you
57:38and ask for support?
57:40You see, here's the secret.
57:42They can only help when you ask. They
57:45can't interfere.
57:47>> That was the secret that was revealed by
57:48this hypnotherapist?
57:49>> That is the secret that's been revealed
57:50by many, many, many mystics.
57:53The idea between Dean Radin's work,
57:55Michael Newton's work, is that this
57:58world
57:59is such
58:01a beautiful illusion. Death is not real.
58:04Reincarnation is reality. Time is an
58:08illusion.
58:09But when you put all of these together
58:10and you stack it, you also start to
58:12understand something.
58:14If we can get reincarnated into any
58:16epoch,
58:17you, Cash,
58:19could also exist not just in the 11th
58:22century and in 2070, but there could be
58:25a Cash soul that is alive on the planet
58:28today. Maybe in China.
58:30Maybe in Africa.
58:32Maybe in the US. Think about that.
58:35Could you be reincarnated in the same
58:38time period?
58:38>> Mhm. Yeah.
58:40>> So, Neale Donald Walsch, another great
58:42spiritual teacher that I got to know and
58:43spent time with, wrote about this in in
58:45a book of his called Home with God,
58:47which is a book on what life after
58:49death.
58:50And he said, "And here's the interesting
58:51thing. Yes, you can be reincarnated in
58:54the same timeline in a different place.
58:58In fact, you are. You are reincarnated 9
59:01billion times right now."
59:03>> What?
59:04>> You see, every soul is part of you.
59:08You are God atomized. And when you
59:10understand that, that every soul is part
59:12of you,
59:13that the person in China
59:16could be you in a past life. Why would
59:17you ever go to war?
59:19Why would you ever hurt another person?
59:21Why would you ever tolerate a homeless
59:22person on the street? I I cried earlier
59:24because I suddenly when I was speaking
59:25about loneliness, I remembered I was
59:27coming out of the subway a few weeks ago
59:29and I saw this homeless guy and I
59:30decided to sit next to him. I just
59:32bought some blueberries and yogurt and I
59:33started to give him the blueberries and
59:34yogurt and I was just listening to his
59:35story and it was so sad. How can we
59:38tolerate that type of thing in the
59:40world? When you start understanding this
59:42truth,
59:43you start understanding that the only
59:45true reality
59:46is that we are all particles of God
59:49experiencing a shared illusion and
59:51therefore the only thing that matters
59:54is
59:55are we going to be there for each other?
59:57Because you and me
59:58we're the same.
59:59>> Yeah.
1:00:00>> Just like you and every single person
1:00:01out there. Just like you and that ex
1:00:03that you might hate. Just like you and
1:00:05the person who votes politically
1:00:07different from you. Just like you and
1:00:08the homeless bum passed out on the
1:00:10street. That's why loneliness
1:00:13is such a myth. It's a
1:00:16construction of modern human
1:00:18civilization that we have to fix. So
1:00:22when I say I'm loneliness, I'm not
1:00:24talking about just human to human.
1:00:25Talking about human to God, human to
1:00:27angels, human to other forces that we
1:00:29cannot yet see with our eyes. That's
1:00:31where I believe the world needs to move
1:00:33to. How do you define love? I think love
1:00:36is basically the purest essence of the
1:00:37soul. Souls are fragments of a higher
1:00:40of God. Love are those fragments coming
1:00:43together
1:00:43>> Mhm.
1:00:44>> and supporting each other. So I think
1:00:46love is one of the most amazing things.
1:00:47I start every day with a Zen Roshi
1:00:50meditation which is a compassion
1:00:52practice where I connect to a higher
1:00:54power. I feel the love come to me and
1:00:55then I take that love and I beam it all
1:00:57across the world starting with my
1:00:59children,
1:01:00then my family, then my friends, then my
1:01:04customers and my community, and then the
1:01:07city I'm in, London, and then the entire
1:01:10continent of Europe, then the entire
1:01:12world.
1:01:12>> Wow.
1:01:13>> And because of that I feel like a
1:01:14citizen of the world. I cannot accept
1:01:17any politician, any viewpoint that said
1:01:20that we are better than than others.
1:01:22Right now as we host this as we do this
1:01:24podcast, I have refugees staying in one
1:01:26of my homes. I'm launching social media
1:01:28campaigns to help support immigrants who
1:01:30are being villainized by right-wing
1:01:32politicians.
1:01:32>> Wow.
1:01:33>> And I'm writing an article about the
1:01:35audacity of stupidity that I witnessed
1:01:38at Mar-a-Lago
1:01:40in a dinner where I met Trump. Division
1:01:43is the most useful tool of politicians
1:01:45with no vision.
1:01:46And that's one of the things that I
1:01:48think we need to fight in the world.
1:01:49>> Wow.
1:01:50That's so true.
1:01:51>> As we record this in Brexit, think about
1:01:53what Nigel Farage did to this country.
1:01:55The lies, the
1:01:58He got many people over 50 to vote for
1:02:00Brexit, which has hurt the UK so bad. I
1:02:04was recently speaking at an AI
1:02:06conference at the House of Commons and
1:02:07the the comments that got the biggest
1:02:09applause was we must rejoin the EU. I
1:02:11hope that happens soon because our
1:02:12destiny is to become more and more
1:02:14deeply connected with each other.
1:02:16>> Mhm.
1:02:16>> As people, as cities, as countries, as
1:02:19nations. That is love. Love is the great
1:02:22rejoining.
1:02:24And love is also what something that is
1:02:26so vilified and dramatized and we're
1:02:29told it's painful, but it's really just
1:02:31rejoining.
1:02:33>> You say stop trying to be spiritual.
1:02:35>> Yeah.
1:02:37>> Can you expand on that?
1:02:38>> We are souls having a human experience,
1:02:40right?
1:02:42This A soul came to this body to
1:02:45experience being human.
1:02:46>> Mhm.
1:02:47>> When you die, you're going to get all
1:02:49these spiritual exposure you need.
1:02:51So,
1:02:52I believe it is often unnecessary to
1:02:55start chasing these spiritual
1:02:57experiences. If you look at the works of
1:02:59great writers, they say the same thing.
1:03:01Esther Hicks in her famous series of
1:03:03books, she was asked if being human is
1:03:06so hard, why do souls become human? And
1:03:08Esther goes, because you being human is
1:03:10the most delicious thing a soul can
1:03:11experience. Especially, she said, sex.
1:03:15Why do we dramatize it so much? Neale
1:03:17Donald Walsch in Conversations with God,
1:03:19there's a paragraph where he said, "Stop
1:03:21trying to discover the secrets of life,
1:03:24the secrets of spirituality, the secrets
1:03:26of the soul. All of these are secrets
1:03:27for a reason. You will soon figure it
1:03:29out. Instead, live life." And say, and
1:03:33in the same paragraph he says, "And say,
1:03:35I love money.
1:03:37I love food.
1:03:39I love abundance. I love love. I love
1:03:42sex." He says, "These are all human
1:03:44things that we are made to feel guilty
1:03:45about.
1:03:46But this is what so souls are here for.
1:03:49Souls are here to discover all of the
1:03:51beautiful things that
1:03:53God created in the universe.
1:03:55>> So, what do you think the purpose of
1:03:56your life is?
1:03:56>> I get really annoyed when I hear about
1:03:59people who want to go and, you know, put
1:04:01themselves in a 7-day retreat where they
1:04:03close their eyes and they live in
1:04:04darkness. I'd rather spend those 7 days
1:04:08with my daughter and my son camping out
1:04:10in a desert in a beautiful place like an
1:04:13AlUla
1:04:15looking at the rocks around us, staring
1:04:17at the stars, laughing,
1:04:20riding our bikes, our electric bikes
1:04:22through the desert sand. I think that
1:04:24human experience is far more valuable
1:04:27than spending 7 days in meditation.
1:04:29>> Mhm.
1:04:30>> Because it keeps us connected, connected
1:04:32not just to the people who matter, but
1:04:33it keeps us connected to why we are
1:04:35here.
1:04:36To be to truly feel aligned with the
1:04:38universe. That's why I say, "Stop trying
1:04:40to be spiritual." Cuz so many spiritual
1:04:42people are so freaking pretentious and
1:04:44>> No, it you're absolutely right. I mean,
1:04:45I came from a very dogmatic background
1:04:47of spirituality.
1:04:48Um as a monk, you're forced to be very
1:04:50regimented, which was completely valid
1:04:52for all the monks there. But then
1:04:53outside of that, I was still stuck in a
1:04:55dogmatic spiritual view of life. Yeah.
1:04:57And then you opened up my mind. It was
1:04:59you who actually
1:05:00>> I say?
1:05:00>> It was just being with you. Like our
1:05:02friendship is what opened up my mind in
1:05:04spirituality. It shifted how I viewed
1:05:07God, how I viewed the world, how I
1:05:08viewed people. It just opened up my mind
1:05:10in so many ways. Well, that idea
1:05:13actually
1:05:14came from MLK.
1:05:17MLK had a great quote on power and love.
1:05:20Think of power as the physical world,
1:05:22and think of love as this essence of
1:05:23spirituality we've been speaking about.
1:05:25So, I wrote a book called The Buddha and
1:05:27the Badass.
1:05:28And this idea of the Buddha and the
1:05:29badass comes from this MLK quote. And
1:05:32what he said is this, "Power without
1:05:34love
1:05:35is corrupt and abusive.
1:05:38But love without power
1:05:41is sentimental and weak.
1:05:44You need power, and you need love. You
1:05:46need the Buddha, and you need the
1:05:47badass. You can't just be spiritual and
1:05:50sitting on your yoga mat
1:05:52when there are kids dying in Gaza.
1:05:54You got to step up and do something. We
1:05:56need people who are Buddha badasses, who
1:05:58can tap into the spiritual core
1:06:00that we're all born with, and use it in
1:06:03a powerful way to make the world better.
1:06:06That is when you're really following
1:06:08your dharma. We think of our spiritual
1:06:09sages, from Moses to Jesus to Padma
1:06:11Sambhava, as
1:06:14people just sitting under a bodhi tree.
1:06:16But they were not. They were all
1:06:18fighting for something. The most
1:06:19spiritual people in the world were
1:06:21spiritual because they understood the
1:06:22power of love, the power of forgiveness.
1:06:25But like Martin Luther King, like
1:06:28Gandhi, like Mamdani in New York right
1:06:30now, they are fighting to make the world
1:06:32greater for millions of people.
1:06:34>> And that's it. It's the integration. And
1:06:36that's what you embody. When it comes to
1:06:38integration, what does that look like
1:06:40day-to-day on a practical level?
1:06:41>> The most important thing, meditation.
1:06:44Just sitting still. The most important
1:06:46thing is in the morning when you start
1:06:48your day, meditation and breath work.
1:06:51Both of those things help you step into
1:06:52an altered state. That altered state
1:06:54gives you a different understanding and
1:06:55awareness of the world and yourself.
1:06:58And with that understanding, you shift
1:07:01and grow in amazing ways.
1:07:02>> There are so many people feeling lonely
1:07:05right now who are just getting sick of
1:07:08what's going on with the dating scene.
1:07:10They're like, "There's not any good
1:07:11men." There's The men are saying there's
1:07:12not any good women. What do you have to
1:07:14say on that?
1:07:15>> Well, dating is broken.
1:07:17But, it's also broken because of the
1:07:20paradox of choice. Today,
1:07:22the average person on a dating app
1:07:24is seeing 20, 30 pictures a day.
1:07:28In one day,
1:07:29you see more
1:07:31possibilities than your parents saw in
1:07:34in their entire lifetime.
1:07:36>> So true.
1:07:37>> And this creates this weird idea that,
1:07:39"Oh, there's always going to be someone
1:07:40better coming along. Oh,
1:07:42I I I need to find the perfect match."
1:07:45But, this is the trap. This is the
1:07:47problem. I believe my mom and dad were
1:07:49destined to meet. I believe in soul
1:07:51mates.
1:07:52And I think the issue with modern dating
1:07:54is it gets you
1:07:57thinking of love like a lottery. You
1:07:59always want to put one more coin in that
1:08:01machine. You always want to keep It It
1:08:03becomes It becomes an addiction. I'm not
1:08:05saying get off dating apps. I'm saying
1:08:07be selective about it. But, also be open
1:08:10if someone asks you out in the van and
1:08:11they don't seem like a bad person,
1:08:14there's nothing wrong with actually
1:08:16going and having an interaction cuz you
1:08:18will learn something about yourself.
1:08:19You'll learn something about them. But,
1:08:20also if you do find someone that seems
1:08:23to fit, don't fall into that trap of
1:08:25going, "Oh, if I commit, something
1:08:27better might come along." No.
1:08:30You commit and you make it better.
1:08:32>> So, what's the I don't give a damn
1:08:33method?
1:08:34>> Oh, so that comes from a book by Vadim
1:08:36Zeland in a book called Reality
1:08:37Transurfing. So, Vadim Zeland was a
1:08:39quantum physicist in Russia.
1:08:41And based on his work, he became
1:08:42convinced that there are multiple
1:08:44universes.
1:08:45But, he also became convinced that every
1:08:47action we make creates a branch in the
1:08:49universe. You can move between these
1:08:51branches. You can slide into a new
1:08:53reality.
1:08:54So, he calls it literally sliding into a
1:08:55reality. So, you can slide into a
1:08:57reality where you're healthy, you slide
1:08:59into a reality where you're with the
1:09:00person you love, slide into a reality
1:09:01where you have a successful company, but
1:09:03the secret is this.
1:09:04Every time you create a great want for
1:09:06that reality, the universe has to
1:09:08rebalance the want with an opposite
1:09:10force. So, wanting doesn't get you
1:09:11there.
1:09:12>> Mhm.
1:09:12>> Instead, you create a non-critical
1:09:15desire. It's called the I don't give a
1:09:17damn method. You go, you know, "It'd be
1:09:19nice if I had that relationship, but if
1:09:21it doesn't happen, I'm good. It'd be
1:09:22nice if I had that business,
1:09:24but if it doesn't happen, I'm good." You
1:09:26don't ever want to cling to something or
1:09:27wanting badly. Always feel that you're
1:09:31good even if you don't get it. That's
1:09:33the no big deal method.
1:09:34>> If someone listening right now is
1:09:35thinking about they want to see their
1:09:36soulmate,
1:09:37you obviously have the four-step method
1:09:38which you went through in the beginning,
1:09:39but I'm curious to know is there any
1:09:41alternative view that you would have
1:09:43where someone who wishes to attract
1:09:45their soulmate now.
1:09:47What would you say to them?
1:09:47>> So, here's my idea. Firstly,
1:09:50trust. Trust. Know what you want, this
1:09:53type of relationship, where you want to
1:09:55live, the parameters, children, no
1:09:56children. Know what you want. Be clear
1:09:58on that. Clarity matters. Neale Donald
1:10:00Walsch in his book on manifesting, he
1:10:02wrote 19 books, but one of the most
1:10:04important lines in this book is this,
1:10:07the master
1:10:09doesn't change their mind. They know
1:10:11what they want, and they stick to it.
1:10:12Especially with dating, we keep changing
1:10:13our mind. Know what you want, and then
1:10:16show intent to the universe. What do we
1:10:19mean by show intent? Don't just sit on
1:10:20the couch and hope that it's going to
1:10:22happen. Ask people out. Get on dating
1:10:24apps. Go on lots of dates. But when you
1:10:26go into every single date, don't go in
1:10:29with a neediness that you need it to
1:10:30happen.
1:10:32Do the no big deal method.
1:10:34Step in with the possibility of seeing
1:10:35what arises,
1:10:37and allow the right person to come to
1:10:40you. You're maximizing your odds of
1:10:41success. So, I had a friend who was one
1:10:44of the top growth hackers in Silicon
1:10:46Valley. Being a growth hacker, she
1:10:48applied principles of growth hacking,
1:10:50which is when you build up an app to
1:10:51lots of users, to dating. She decided to
1:10:53go on three dates every week for 10
1:10:55weeks straight.
1:10:56>> Wow.
1:10:57>> So, she did that, three dates every week
1:10:58for 10 weeks straight. Now, I ask her
1:10:59what happened and she goes, "Well,
1:11:02I had some boring evenings. I had some
1:11:03funny evenings. I met some people who
1:11:05were interesting. I've met some people
1:11:07whom, you know, I didn't really want to
1:11:08be around. I learned a ton about myself
1:11:10and I made a lot of friends." And I go,
1:11:12"So, it failed?" She goes,
1:11:14"Those 30 dates, didn't meet anyone.
1:11:17But 2 weeks after that, I met the man
1:11:20that I am now married to."
1:11:222 weeks after that.
1:11:24>> Wow.
1:11:24>> I ask her, "What do you think this
1:11:25means?" She said, "When you have to
1:11:27goal,
1:11:28you have to put in the effort to show
1:11:31the universe your intent."
1:11:33>> You know, when it comes to
1:11:34relationships, there's this whole thing
1:11:36theme about self-love.
1:11:37>> Uh-huh.
1:11:38>> What are your thoughts on self-love when
1:11:39it comes to attracting a soulmate?
1:11:41>> I think if you don't have self-love, you
1:11:43have a massive problem. Like everything
1:11:45else, you got to hit pause till you have
1:11:47that self-love.
1:11:48>> Mhm.
1:11:49>> Got to make it. You You got to work on
1:11:51that first.
1:11:51>> How does someone build self-love?
1:11:53>> You build self-love
1:11:55by understanding
1:11:57the power of forgiveness. Many people
1:11:59practice forgiveness on other events,
1:12:01other people, but we often forget to
1:12:03practice forgiveness on ourselves. We
1:12:05often still carry the burden of mistakes
1:12:07we made and so on. Here's a simple
1:12:09example. You're hiking on a trail
1:12:12and your friend trips. You're hiking
1:12:14with a friend, your friend trips. You
1:12:15don't go to your friend and go, "Oh,
1:12:16you're so stupid. You should have seen
1:12:18that root. Why did you trip?"
1:12:20But if we're hiking on a trail by
1:12:21ourselves and we trip,
1:12:23that's our self-talk. "Oh, I'm so
1:12:25stupid. I should have seen that root."
1:12:27We talk to ourselves worse than we talk
1:12:28to
1:12:29friends.
1:12:30>> Mhm.
1:12:31>> Self-love means you understand where you
1:12:34came from, you understand you're human,
1:12:36and you speak to your mind, your body,
1:12:38your soul, your heart, almost like you
1:12:40would talk to your child. And a great
1:12:42practice to do that is forgiveness. We
1:12:44all make mistakes. Forgive yourself for
1:12:46the bad choices. Forgive yourself for
1:12:48the failed investment. Forgive yourself
1:12:50for that time you broke your health.
1:12:53Forgive yourself for that. And when you
1:12:55do that, self-love starts to grow.
1:12:57So, I found forgiveness to be the most
1:12:58powerful tool for radiating and
1:13:01expanding on self-love.
1:13:02>> If someone was being
1:13:04born into this world right now, in this
1:13:06very moment, in front of you,
1:13:08with everything that you've learned to
1:13:09date,
1:13:10what's the one piece of advice wisdom
1:13:11that you would wish that they learn and
1:13:13embody going into this life?
1:13:16>> You are not alone.
1:13:17You are connected to powers far greater
1:13:19than you imagine.
1:13:20You're surrounded by angels. And every
1:13:22human being in the world is a part of
1:13:25you and a part of life.
1:13:27And when you start seeing life from this
1:13:29lens of connectedness, so many doors are
1:13:32going to open to you.
1:13:34>> Thank you so much, Vishen.
1:13:35>> Thank you, Cash.
1:13:36>> How can people find out more about you?
1:13:37>> Go to vishen.com or you'll find me on
1:13:40YouTube @vishen.
1:13:42YouTube @vishen or Instagram @vishen.
1:13:44>> Beautiful. Thank you. I appreciate you
1:13:46coming on this podcast.
1:13:47>> Thanks.

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