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Villa Vie Odyssey: The Truth Is Worse Than We Thought — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Since our video yesterday, we've now
  2. 0:01spoken confidentially to a few people
  3. 0:04who says the explanations being given by
  4. 0:07the company are nonsense. They've told
  5. 0:09us crew members haven't been paid for 2
  6. 0:11months, suppliers are owed substantial
  7. 0:13sums of money, air conditioning has been
  8. 0:15switched off, and temperatures in crew
  9. 0:17accommodation have reportedly reached
  10. 0:1943°
  11. 0:21C.
  12. 0:22And there's a question which keeps
  13. 0:23coming up, where is all the money? Let's
  14. 0:25begin with CEO's letter to residents
  15. 0:28dated 25th of October. Kathy W explains
  16. 0:30that the company has monthly operating
  17. 0:32costs of approximately $3 million,
  18. 0:35but only receives around $750,000
  19. 0:39in maintenance fees from residents. That
  20. 0:41is a shortfall of $2.25 million
  21. 0:45every month. Kathy explains that the
  22. 0:47difference was funded through cabin
  23. 0:49sales and other revenue-generating
  24. 0:51programs, adding, "This was our business
  25. 0:54model." Well, there is your problem.
  26. 0:56It's a business model that's been
  27. 0:58put together on the back of a cigarette
  28. 0:59packet by two clueless people. Cabins on
  29. 1:02a ship are a finite resource. Once
  30. 1:05you've sold them, you cannot keep
  31. 1:06selling them to somebody else while
  32. 1:09original purchasers are living on board.
  33. 1:11Like most businesses, bills continue
  34. 1:13arriving every month. Fuel, provisions,
  35. 1:15wages, port charges, insurance, repairs,
  36. 1:18dry-docking, and maintenance. An Odyssey
  37. 1:21is a ship built in 1993. Maintenance
  38. 1:24costs only get higher with an older
  39. 1:26ship. With that enormous monthly funding
  40. 1:28gap Kathy describes, Villa Vie needed
  41. 1:31$27 million a year from cabin sales and
  42. 1:35other revenue simply to cover that
  43. 1:37difference. She says that the company
  44. 1:39still had approximately $16 million in
  45. 1:42unsold inventory at listed prices. Even
  46. 1:45if every cabin could be sold for its
  47. 1:48full advertised price,
  48. 1:50that would cover barely 7 months of the
  49. 1:53illustrative funding gap. Kathy also
  50. 1:55makes another remarkable admission. "We
  51. 1:58wanted to make residential cruising
  52. 2:00affordable. Looking back, we made it too
  53. 2:02affordable. She is admitting that the
  54. 2:04company should have had more capital,
  55. 2:06larger reserves, and a more extensive
  56. 2:09management team. There are fundamental
  57. 2:11matters that should have been addressed
  58. 2:13long before you started selling
  59. 2:15fictitious dreams to people. There's a
  60. 2:17reason conventional cruise lines depend
  61. 2:19on a constant turnover of passengers.
  62. 2:21There's also a reason why one of the big
  63. 2:23cruise lines hasn't created its own
  64. 2:25residential cruise startup. Conventional
  65. 2:28cruise lines adapt the constant turnover
  66. 2:31model because it is profitable. And last
  67. 2:34time I knew, business was about making
  68. 2:36profit. Every week or fortnight, one
  69. 2:38group disembarks and another boards. The
  70. 2:40cruise line gets another opportunity to
  71. 2:42sell every cabin, adjust its fares, and
  72. 2:45generate additional revenue. If fuel
  73. 2:48prices rise, wages increase, or
  74. 2:50inflation pushes up operating costs, the
  75. 2:53company can attempt to recover those
  76. 2:54increases
  77. 2:56through putting up the price of a
  78. 2:57specialty restaurant. Then there's
  79. 2:59onboard spending. Drink packages,
  80. 3:00specialty restaurants, Wi-Fi, shore
  81. 3:03excursions, spas, shops, photographs,
  82. 3:05casinos, and numerous other services all
  83. 3:08contribute to cruise line revenue. It's
  84. 3:11an enormous part of cruise line revenue.
  85. 3:13Something else that's really important
  86. 3:15is the big mainstream cruise ships have
  87. 3:18to sail at least 80% full
  88. 3:22in order to make a profit. Even on the
  89. 3:25ultra luxury lines, they have to sail
  90. 3:2860% full to make a profit. From what
  91. 3:31I've heard, Odyssey has been sailing
  92. 3:32around at about a third capacity. This
  93. 3:35bizarre business model that Villa Vie
  94. 3:37has come up with is where they can't
  95. 3:39repeatedly resell the same occupied
  96. 3:41cabin over and over again. It has less
  97. 3:43opportunity to increase prices for
  98. 3:45people who have already secured
  99. 3:47long-term contractual arrangements, and
  100. 3:49permanent residents are likely to be
  101. 3:51more cautious with their spending
  102. 3:54compared to a normal holiday or
  103. 3:55vacation. If somebody pays $200,000 for
  104. 3:59a lifetime of accommodation and
  105. 4:00services, that money has to support an
  106. 4:03obligation potentially lasting decades.
  107. 4:06Some people were promised 15 years of
  108. 4:08cruising. Where was the financial plan
  109. 4:10which takes into account inflation, life
  110. 4:12expectancy, investment returns, major
  111. 4:15maintenance, and eventually replacing
  112. 4:18the old ship that you have in your
  113. 4:20fleet? A responsible operator would
  114. 4:22establish substantial reserves or an
  115. 4:25investment fund to support those future
  116. 4:27costs. We have not seen evidence
  117. 4:30establishing what arrangements Villa Vie
  118. 4:32actually made. And until you prove that,
  119. 4:35I'm inclined to believe that you didn't
  120. 4:37make any. And Kathy's admission that
  121. 4:40cabin sales helped cover recurring
  122. 4:41operating costs, that deserves far more
  123. 4:44scrutiny than it's received. In August
  124. 4:462025, Villa Vie launched its Golden
  125. 4:49Passport offering lifetime cruising for
  126. 4:51a one-off payment ranging from $99,999
  127. 4:56to $299,999,
  128. 4:59depending on your age. The advertised
  129. 5:02benefits included accommodation, dining,
  130. 5:04housekeeping, laundry, internet,
  131. 5:07entertainment, annual medical check-ups,
  132. 5:09drinks with meals, port taxes, and
  133. 5:12service charges. Michael Peterson
  134. 5:14promoted the product with this
  135. 5:15extraordinary statement, which he's
  136. 5:17probably regretting now. As people
  137. 5:19retire, one of their biggest fears is
  138. 5:21outliving their money. With the Golden
  139. 5:23Passport, that uncertainty disappears.
  140. 5:26One payment secures a lifetime of
  141. 5:28adventure. Well, that promise hasn't
  142. 5:30aged very well, has it? But let's look
  143. 5:32at those numbers a little closer. Spread
  144. 5:34over 20 years, that is the equivalent of
  145. 5:36approximately $417 a month. Who did
  146. 5:39these sums, Mr. Bean? You have been
  147. 5:41making promises since the very beginning
  148. 5:44which you could never honor. We've heard
  149. 5:46from a resident who says they sold their
  150. 5:48home in July 2026 to purchase one of
  151. 5:51these Golden Passports. Three months
  152. 5:54later,
  153. 5:55Odyssey's operation has been suspended.
  154. 5:57I find it extraordinary that a company
  155. 6:00could promote financial certainty in
  156. 6:02retirement while apparently depending on
  157. 6:06continuing cabin sales to meet such a
  158. 6:09substantial proportion of its operating
  159. 6:11costs, as if they were never going to
  160. 6:13run out of them. How stupid are these
  161. 6:15people? Kathy and Michael, as far as I'm
  162. 6:17concerned, are doing their very best to
  163. 6:19convince people that all of these
  164. 6:20financial woes started in Cambodia, and
  165. 6:23that Big Donnie's excursion into Iran
  166. 6:25and what it has done to fuel prices is
  167. 6:27the cause of all of this. In April 2026,
  168. 6:30Villa Vie reportedly approached
  169. 6:32residents about raising up to $3 million
  170. 6:35through loans, offering annual interest
  171. 6:37rates ranging from 12 to 24%. At 24%,
  172. 6:41it's the financial equivalent of trying
  173. 6:43to put out a house fire with petrol.
  174. 6:46Seeking emergency finance at those
  175. 6:48rates, knowing that they wouldn't be
  176. 6:50able to repay them, sets off alarm bells
  177. 6:52in my head. In Kathy's letter on the
  178. 6:5425th of October, the company needed
  179. 6:56approximately $370,000
  180. 6:59to purchase 175 metric tons of fuel in
  181. 7:02Cambodia, enabling Odyssey to reach
  182. 7:05Thailand. Residents were asked to
  183. 7:07advance their November fuel surcharge of
  184. 7:09$1,800 per occupied cabin. With
  185. 7:11approximately 206 participating cabins,
  186. 7:15that would raise $370,800.
  187. 7:18Kathy said it wasn't an additional
  188. 7:20charge, simply an advance payment. But,
  189. 7:22the following day, residents were
  190. 7:24instructed to disembark by 2:00 that
  191. 7:26afternoon because residents refused to
  192. 7:29hand over any more money. Michael and
  193. 7:31Kathy effectively put all the residents
  194. 7:33over a barrel. There's another aspect of
  195. 7:36Kathy's letter that I find particularly
  196. 7:38unpleasant. It's her tone. Kathy begins
  197. 7:40by apologizing for her absence from the
  198. 7:42residents online community and for
  199. 7:45closing comments. She then complains
  200. 7:46about residents sharing information on
  201. 7:48social media and with outside parties,
  202. 7:51including creditors and suppliers. Kathy
  203. 7:53also complains about being called
  204. 7:55incompetent, dishonest, and worse, and
  205. 7:58suggests there has been double standards
  206. 8:00when residents express anger, but
  207. 8:02management is criticized for responding
  208. 8:04emotionally. Personal abuse is
  209. 8:06unacceptable, but criticism of
  210. 8:09management's decisions is entirely
  211. 8:11justified. And I would argue that
  212. 8:13incompetent is about the kindest
  213. 8:15adjective that deserves to be lobbed at
  214. 8:17you
  215. 8:18right now, in my opinion. I actually
  216. 8:20find some of Kathy's own remarks rather
  217. 8:23condescending myself. She explains that
  218. 8:25operating a cruise company is a 24-hour
  219. 8:27responsibility and suggests residents
  220. 8:30offering to help couldn't realistically
  221. 8:32manage fuel procurement, finances, and
  222. 8:34daily operations between excursions.
  223. 8:37Well, yes, Kathy, running a cruise ship
  224. 8:38is a full-time responsibility. You're
  225. 8:40not running the local village fete, and
  226. 8:43nobody made you do this. She also warns
  227. 8:45that a resident-owned operation would
  228. 8:47involve financial obligations and
  229. 8:49potentially further cash calls.
  230. 8:52Well, given how often Villa Vie has
  231. 8:54reportedly asked residents for
  232. 8:56additional money, that is a particularly
  233. 8:58remarkable lecture from you, Kathy. Now,
  234. 9:00Villa Vie are doing a very good job at
  235. 9:02banging this drum that this is all about
  236. 9:05fuel prices. In an interview with APT,
  237. 9:07Odyssey's captain discussed the
  238. 9:09situation. With the explanation, once
  239. 9:12again, centering around the company's
  240. 9:14difficulties obtaining and paying for
  241. 9:16fuel. But, the crew member
  242. 9:19we have testimony from strongly refute
  243. 9:21the suggestion that fuel prices explain
  244. 9:24the collapse and where they find
  245. 9:26themselves today. They believe the
  246. 9:28financial problems began much earlier
  247. 9:31and that the fuel has become a
  248. 9:32convenient explanation for a much wider
  249. 9:35failure of financial management. And
  250. 9:37from what I have seen and the people
  251. 9:39I've spoken to in the last couple of
  252. 9:40days, I am inclined to agree. Our source
  253. 9:43told us, in quotes, "This is a story for
  254. 9:46the press that they are bankrupt because
  255. 9:48of the fuel costs. It's not true." Now,
  256. 9:51I want to be fair to the captain. He's
  257. 9:53responsible for the safe operation of
  258. 9:55the vessel. He may be repeating the
  259. 9:57explanation provided by senior
  260. 9:59management and the company he's working
  261. 10:02for. At the end of the day, he's still
  262. 10:03looking to be paid. But, I find the
  263. 10:05continued emphasis on fuel prices
  264. 10:07increasingly disingenuous when Kathy's
  265. 10:10own letter acknowledges fundamental
  266. 10:12weaknesses in the business model from
  267. 10:14the very start. We can point to various
  268. 10:17things which Kathy and Michael have lied
  269. 10:19about or promised in a multitude of
  270. 10:21things which they could never deliver
  271. 10:23on. Why would anybody believe that this
  272. 10:25whole Horlicks of a situation is down to
  273. 10:28fuel alone? It's She admits
  274. 10:31the company should have had more capital
  275. 10:33and larger reserves. And she admits that
  276. 10:36residential cruising was priced too
  277. 10:38cheaply. Kathy sites historical fuel
  278. 10:40prices of approximately $700 per metric
  279. 10:43ton, later figures of $1,800 and a
  280. 10:46recent quotation of around $2,112.
  281. 10:50Our source says the last bunkering they
  282. 10:53knew of cost approximately $1,400 per
  283. 10:55metric ton. There are also questions
  284. 10:57about the company's fuel price planning.
  285. 10:59Michael was reportedly suggested that
  286. 11:02Villa Vie was too small to hedge its
  287. 11:04fuel exposure. Hedging isn't available
  288. 11:06or appropriate for every operator. And
  289. 11:08it cannot solve every problem. But fuel
  290. 11:11volatility is a long-standing feature of
  291. 11:13commercial shipping. Blaming the entire
  292. 11:15collapse on the fuel prices without
  293. 11:17fully addressing the company's
  294. 11:19undercapitalization
  295. 11:20and dependence on continuing sales
  296. 11:23is disingenuous at the very least. Our
  297. 11:26source has described some serious
  298. 11:27financial and welfare concerns aboard
  299. 11:30Odyssey. They also allege that a
  300. 11:31contractor involved in refurbishing
  301. 11:34cabins is owed approximately 600,000
  302. 11:37pounds and that other suppliers
  303. 11:39connected with the operation are also
  304. 11:41awaiting payment. We would like it if
  305. 11:43Villa Vie could clarify that for us and
  306. 11:46we can set the record straight. Our
  307. 11:48source also tells us that they haven't
  308. 11:49received wages for September or October
  309. 11:52and that other crew have also not been
  310. 11:55paid. Michael Peterson has separately
  311. 11:57been quoted in a news report
  312. 12:00acknowledging that Villa Vie had
  313. 12:01borrowed money and stretched its
  314. 12:03payroll. Bloody shameful. Seafarers are
  315. 12:06still expected to maintain essential
  316. 12:08machinery, ensure the safety of the
  317. 12:10vessel and fulfill their professional
  318. 12:12responsibilities. They should be paid
  319. 12:14for that work. They should have been
  320. 12:16prioritized, in my opinion, over
  321. 12:18everybody else. Apparently, 156 crew
  322. 12:21members remain on board at the time of
  323. 12:24our conversation, with further
  324. 12:25departures anticipated for tomorrow,
  325. 12:28mainly from the hotel department. They
  326. 12:30have also described reduced lighting on
  327. 12:32board, air conditioning being switched
  328. 12:34off, and temperatures in some crew
  329. 12:36accommodation reaching 42 or 43° C.
  330. 12:41There are also questions surrounding
  331. 12:42crew passports, access to travel
  332. 12:44documents, and whether seafarers are
  333. 12:46able to leave without jeopardizing their
  334. 12:48outstanding wage claims. The Maritime
  335. 12:51Labour Convention provides protections
  336. 12:53concerning wages, repatriation, and
  337. 12:55abandonment, where applicable. Villa Vie
  338. 12:58needs to explain how much crew members
  339. 13:00are owed, when they will be paid, and
  340. 13:02what arrangements exist for their safe
  341. 13:05repatriation. Our sources also expressed
  342. 13:07concern that unpaid maritime creditors
  343. 13:10could eventually seek the arrest of
  344. 13:12Odyssey. CBS News has reported that
  345. 13:14Michael Petterson said that Villa Vie
  346. 13:16intended to seek Chapter 11 bankruptcy
  347. 13:19protection in the United States. Chapter
  348. 13:2111 can allow a company to reorganize
  349. 13:24under court supervision. A stated
  350. 13:26intention to file doesn't establish that
  351. 13:28a petition has actually been submitted,
  352. 13:31but the timing is important. Management
  353. 13:33needs to disclose when bankruptcy first
  354. 13:36became a serious possibility,
  355. 13:38particularly in relation to the
  356. 13:39emergency requests for money from
  357. 13:41residents. And also, not paying crew for
  358. 13:44a couple of months. When did you first
  359. 13:46know that things were this dire? I
  360. 13:48thought it was just the fuel. Our
  361. 13:50sources raised concerns about
  362. 13:51management's involvement in another
  363. 13:53residential cruise venture, Evora
  364. 13:55Residences, which is currently Seven
  365. 13:57Seas Navigator with Regent, and it was
  366. 13:59going to be at the center of Project
  367. 14:01Lamina. Our source suspects that the
  368. 14:03company could move on to another
  369. 14:05project, while Villa Vie's creditors are
  370. 14:08left dealing with the consequences of
  371. 14:10its failure. That is their suspicion. We
  372. 14:13have no evidence establishing that Villa
  373. 14:14Vie's collapse was deliberate or that
  374. 14:16residents' money was diverted into
  375. 14:19Avora. But, there is a lot of
  376. 14:21speculation online, and if Villa Vie
  377. 14:23goes down, I don't really want to see
  378. 14:26Michael Peterson or Kathy anywhere near
  379. 14:29another
  380. 14:31residency cruise startup. But, there are
  381. 14:34overlapping interests here, which need
  382. 14:37scrutiny. The ownership structures,
  383. 14:39directors, financing arrangements, and
  384. 14:41any transaction between associated
  385. 14:43companies should be transparent. If you
  386. 14:46think I'm digging deep now, trust me, I
  387. 14:48haven't even started. Michael was also
  388. 14:50previously involved with the supposed
  389. 14:53Life at Sea Cruises venture, which
  390. 14:55ultimately collapsed into a pile of dust
  391. 14:58because they were selling cabins on a
  392. 14:59ship which they didn't contractually
  393. 15:01own, and they weren't able to buy. A
  394. 15:04number of people have compared Villa
  395. 15:06Vie's business model to a Ponzi scheme.
  396. 15:08It's not quite a Ponzi scheme. It
  397. 15:10doesn't quite match the definition of a
  398. 15:12Ponzi scheme. But, Kathy's admission
  399. 15:14that cabin sales were helping finance
  400. 15:16recurring operating costs raises
  401. 15:18legitimate questions about financial
  402. 15:20sustainability and what purchasers were
  403. 15:23being told. The crucial issue is what
  404. 15:25management knew about the company's
  405. 15:27financial position while the company was
  406. 15:29continuing to sell cabins, golden
  407. 15:31passports, and other residency products.
  408. 15:34A proper investigation would need the
  409. 15:36original business plan, financial
  410. 15:38forecasts, bank records, loan
  411. 15:40agreements, supplier invoices, sales
  412. 15:42records, and a complete account of
  413. 15:45residents' payments. Kathy is saying
  414. 15:47that her and Michael haven't pocketed
  415. 15:48millions.
  416. 15:50That may be true. But, the question of
  417. 15:52where the money went remains unanswered.
  418. 15:55And what about all of the money that's
  419. 15:56currently being taken by Avora
  420. 15:58residencies? Where's that money gone?
  421. 16:00Money can be spent on genuine operating
  422. 16:02expenses and still be badly managed. A
  423. 16:05company can fail through unrealistic
  424. 16:07projections, inadequate reserves, and
  425. 16:10poor financial decisions without anyone
  426. 16:14committing fraud or any legal
  427. 16:16wrongdoing. And that is precisely why
  428. 16:18the financial records matter. It is time
  429. 16:21that Michael and Kathy held up their
  430. 16:23hands for 5 minutes and acknowledge
  431. 16:25their own failings and give residents,
  432. 16:28crew, and creditors some answers. We
  433. 16:31contacted Michael Peterson and invited
  434. 16:33him to answer questions or join us for
  435. 16:35an interview. I don't think he'll
  436. 16:36entertain it, but we'll let you know. He
  437. 16:38wasn't particularly impressed by
  438. 16:40comparisons made in our earlier coverage
  439. 16:41to Fyre Festival and Bernie Madoff, but
  440. 16:43he didn't refute them. And Michael, you
  441. 16:45have an opportunity to address those
  442. 16:47comparisons directly. It's time to put
  443. 16:49on your big boy pants. Explain how
  444. 16:51VillaVie expects you to fund its
  445. 16:53long-term commitments. As chairman, you
  446. 16:55have a duty to explain why you failed
  447. 16:58your customers and your hard-working
  448. 17:00crew. And maybe, one day, we'll find out
  449. 17:04where all that money has gone.

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