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Veilguard's Secret Ending {Lore/Theory. - Spoilers All} — Transcript

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  1. 0:00it's still pretty soon after Dragon
  2. 0:01age's Veil guard's release so I'm giving
  3. 0:03a verbal warning now but this video does
  4. 0:05contain spoilers for Veil guard I am not
  5. 0:08holding back here so if you don't want
  6. 0:10to be spoiled go finish the game and
  7. 0:12I'll see you
  8. 0:13later welcome welcome patrons oh my
  9. 0:16goodness it's so good to be back using
  10. 0:18the old intro and format and welcome new
  11. 0:22delens that subbed from my intro to
  12. 0:24Theta Series this is my first real video
  13. 0:27after the release of veil guard and
  14. 0:29frankly one of the reasons I've been
  15. 0:31taking so long is that I just don't know
  16. 0:34where to start there is so much I want
  17. 0:37to say and Talkabout and whatever and
  18. 0:42while I didn't want to start out with
  19. 0:44this particular topic there's just some
  20. 0:46things that were discovered that finally
  21. 0:48just pushed this topic to the start of
  22. 0:49my schedule so finally getting to the
  23. 0:52point let's talk about the secret ending
  24. 0:56what is it so some of you might not have
  25. 0:59even unlocked after credit scenes so a
  26. 1:01quick tutorial on how to do it there are
  27. 1:03three strange circles that you must
  28. 1:05collect in order to unlock the ending on
  29. 1:08screen are where they all in a map and
  30. 1:10all three are behind some sort of boss
  31. 1:12battle if you aren't sure that you have
  32. 1:14collected them check your codec for
  33. 1:16these three entries the number of
  34. 1:17entries is how many of the parts you
  35. 1:19have after that once you beat the game
  36. 1:21it will play after the
  37. 1:23credits except some of you saw this the
  38. 1:27fade had opened and the guard were
  39. 1:30free thanks to soless they've woken up
  40. 1:34to find their empire their subjects even
  41. 1:37their fellow Gods all gone there is a
  42. 1:41very weird glitch where if you're
  43. 1:43playing on PC and have the game
  44. 1:45installed in an HDD Drive the cut scene
  45. 1:47after deeta's Crossing has its visuals
  46. 1:49replaced with the secret ending um and
  47. 1:53also like just today I heard that like
  48. 1:55apparently some PS5 users might have it
  49. 1:58too like there's there's a couple of
  50. 2:00like there might be some more cases
  51. 2:02where this applies um I have no idea why
  52. 2:04it does this and uh there might even be
  53. 2:07more cut scene weirdness on this glitch
  54. 2:09so like a small PSA if you have this
  55. 2:11game on an HGD uh get it off if you
  56. 2:15can it's it's acting funky now for those
  57. 2:18of you who can't be [ __ ] to unlock it
  58. 2:20or you just have a glitched game for
  59. 2:22whatever reason hopefully they patch it
  60. 2:23soon uh let me show you what it's
  61. 2:25supposed to
  62. 2:28be the St STM
  63. 2:31quell the sun
  64. 2:35dimmed the wolf
  65. 2:40defamed at
  66. 2:42last we have
  67. 2:50balanced guide
  68. 2:54it whisper
  69. 3:00and soon The Poisoned fruit
  70. 3:10ripens we
  71. 3:17come now before we go any further we
  72. 3:19need to address the elephant in the room
  73. 3:21because if I'm not upfront with this
  74. 3:23some of you are going to be seething and
  75. 3:24heading straight to the comments so like
  76. 3:26before you go on your rant let me talk
  77. 3:27for like a second please don't waste our
  78. 3:29time my thoughts so this is those across
  79. 3:33the sea or the executiv which is a
  80. 3:35concept that has been in Dragon Age for
  81. 3:37a while
  82. 3:39now torn isn't quite the word but it's
  83. 3:42like close enough to how I feel because
  84. 3:45I'm excited about all the new stuff we
  85. 3:46have of them uh but also yeah no one
  86. 3:50including me likes the idea that they
  87. 3:52have been guiding the past events of the
  88. 3:54series but why I think the easy answer
  89. 3:57is just to say well no one likes plots
  90. 3:59where there is a secret even eviler
  91. 4:01group of baddies behind the scene but I
  92. 4:04I think it's more than that because even
  93. 4:06that plot can be done well uh where I
  94. 4:08don't know I haven't seen it but the
  95. 4:10problem is that it's not about the plot
  96. 4:12hook it's about what it implies to the
  97. 4:14heart of the series I have said this
  98. 4:16time and time again but Dragon Age is
  99. 4:18about people and the choices you make
  100. 4:21the series shines when its villains are
  101. 4:22morally gray and you can sympathize with
  102. 4:24them despite disagreeing with their
  103. 4:26actions making lowan and even bartran to
  104. 4:29have been manipulated into doing their
  105. 4:31villainy takes away from that choice it
  106. 4:33takes away from their agency as a
  107. 4:35character it takes away from the heart
  108. 4:37of the series the secret is that Dragon
  109. 4:40Age already has a villain and a
  110. 4:42mastermind behind everything the villain
  111. 4:44in Dragon Age should always be with no
  112. 4:47room for compromise trauma and
  113. 4:49unprocessed sorrow actions done in Anger
  114. 4:52without the thought of others no
  115. 4:54Collective no Supernatural forces only
  116. 4:57the darkness that is found within us all
  117. 5:01I would even say on the off chance that
  118. 5:02the executiv are supposed to be the
  119. 5:04personification of those emotions that
  120. 5:06this is also a bad idea these need to be
  121. 5:08in the background and relatable it needs
  122. 5:11to come from within and owned not turned
  123. 5:14into a figure that you can blame for
  124. 5:15that negativity a part of the self not
  125. 5:18separate and blamable so pausing here
  126. 5:21because I wrote all of this out and a
  127. 5:23majority of the rest of the video and
  128. 5:25then went to bed and then John Epler
  129. 5:27creative director of veil guard went on
  130. 5:29to Blue guy to clarify a bit on the
  131. 5:31ending uh now the screenshot looks like
  132. 5:33gibberish so I should explain that the
  133. 5:35devs tend to use r13 to code messages so
  134. 5:38they don't spoil people but it
  135. 5:39translates to this the word choice of
  136. 5:42balance whispered guided is very
  137. 5:44deliberate no one was forced or coerced
  138. 5:46or controlled into making any choices
  139. 5:49it's extremely important that ultimately
  140. 5:51everyone made their own choices they
  141. 5:53still own the consequences of those
  142. 5:55decisions because Dragon AG is still a
  143. 5:57series about people making decisions of
  144. 5:58their own free will well and those
  145. 6:00decisions having consequences our own
  146. 6:03history is filled with calamities
  147. 6:04avoided or not because of the smallest
  148. 6:07of chances if a single person had called
  149. 6:09in sick we could have had nuclear war in
  150. 6:121983 it does not absolve any of the
  151. 6:14people involved with the decision they
  152. 6:16made now the 1983 comment is a reference
  153. 6:18to a real world event in which the
  154. 6:20Soviet Union suddenly had a false
  155. 6:22positive on an incoming nuclear attack
  156. 6:23from the United States one engineer
  157. 6:25decided to wait for more information
  158. 6:27before sending the okay to launch
  159. 6:28missiles and thankfully learned that it
  160. 6:30was a malfunction some more posts from
  161. 6:32John it's nice to hear that I won't lie
  162. 6:34I was getting the impression that all
  163. 6:36these characters decisions and agency
  164. 6:37was essentially being Stripped Away for
  165. 6:39some higher or other power that was
  166. 6:41behind it all thank you for clearing it
  167. 6:43up that was always the line I wanted to
  168. 6:45walk they absolutely made all their own
  169. 6:47choices but mentioning Sophia's
  170. 6:49attempted coup at the right time could
  171. 6:51be the nudge that Fed Up plans that were
  172. 6:52already percolating still though that
  173. 6:55was his decision and no one else's now
  174. 6:57if you skip Dragon AG origins or some of
  175. 6:59its DLC Sophia is Sophia dren or a Grey
  176. 7:02Warden with ties to the Falen Throne who
  177. 7:04tried to overthrow the king but
  178. 7:05ultimately failed and led to the gy
  179. 7:07wardens being kicked out of Falon for
  180. 7:09quite some time this is also a massive
  181. 7:11simplification on what happened in at
  182. 7:12DLC but with this video isn't about that
  183. 7:14so we moving on for Lan in particular I
  184. 7:16feel any stripping of his agency would
  185. 7:18have been a betrayal of the character
  186. 7:20and honestly of Dave's great work the
  187. 7:23difference to adding a layer of context
  188. 7:24and changing context entirely thank you
  189. 7:27I think this is one case where the
  190. 7:28game's light touch with regards to the
  191. 7:30world just had a lot of us freaking out
  192. 7:32overall tone and all that it's a fair
  193. 7:34question to ask people but what works
  194. 7:36for one story is necessarily what works
  195. 7:38for another and Origins is far more
  196. 7:41interesting as a story about flawed
  197. 7:42people than a story about someone being
  198. 7:45manipulated or controlled into doing
  199. 7:46something awful I actually had to sit
  200. 7:49with this a bit there were people in the
  201. 7:51comments saying that this changed her
  202. 7:53perspective on the matter for the better
  203. 7:54but I think
  204. 7:57ultimately it didn't for me
  205. 8:00it did alter my understanding of the
  206. 8:01scene and that the executiv act in
  207. 8:03subtle manners that are often overlooked
  208. 8:05but powerful but I kept asking myself
  209. 8:07why I still felt bothered by it is it
  210. 8:10because I'm still seeing it in the way I
  211. 8:12and many others originally did am I
  212. 8:14being persuaded by all the posts I've
  213. 8:16seen regarding what other fans believe
  214. 8:18about the ending am I torn by a secret
  215. 8:21third thing that I don't want the
  216. 8:22current Arc to end and I'm scared of
  217. 8:24change days after this was posted and me
  218. 8:26slapping down my thoughts into words
  219. 8:28over and over and over again to see what
  220. 8:31Rings true there was a feeling that I
  221. 8:33was having trouble grasping and
  222. 8:34articulating just in the back of my mind
  223. 8:37just wrapping around all of this and I
  224. 8:39think I've come up with two points one
  225. 8:42is I do see the difference that Epler is
  226. 8:43describing between the common fan
  227. 8:44interpretation and BioWare is intent but
  228. 8:46I think my critique is that right now I
  229. 8:51don't see what it could add to the
  230. 8:53stories of Logan and bartran to make it
  231. 8:55better it might make the world more
  232. 8:58interesting in the long run but to drag
  233. 8:59out characters that were largely put to
  234. 9:02rest just doesn't satisfy me when we
  235. 9:04could have had a whole Sue of characters
  236. 9:06with unfinished plot lines that could
  237. 9:07have been brought up instead for example
  238. 9:10if the ending was the exact same but
  239. 9:12Logan and bartran was subbed out for the
  240. 9:14architect and gr cleric althenia then I
  241. 9:16think I would not have had the same
  242. 9:18reaction that said I also know that
  243. 9:20those are like deep cut characters to
  244. 9:22the larger Dragon Age audience and as a
  245. 9:24hook to build up a new game would
  246. 9:25probably be an odd choice so like I get
  247. 9:28it and two
  248. 9:30is one that I had the hardest time
  249. 9:31actually putting into words so I really
  250. 9:33hope this makes sense but what I think
  251. 9:35actually bothers me about the
  252. 9:37ending is the lack of relatability to
  253. 9:41the executiv which is a wild sentence to
  254. 9:44hear so like give me a second but all of
  255. 9:47the Dragon Age villains and now even the
  256. 9:49blight so including the arch demons to
  257. 9:51some extent have a nugget of
  258. 9:53relatability to their crimes protecting
  259. 9:56your country protecting your city
  260. 9:58against what you see as evil restoring
  261. 10:00your country by becoming what it lacks
  262. 10:01because it never existed in the first
  263. 10:03place those are motivations I can
  264. 10:05understand this all makes sense and I
  265. 10:07can relate to it there is a Humanity
  266. 10:09there and all the heroes of their games
  267. 10:11mirror that idea but sing it in a heroic
  268. 10:13tune but so far everything we have
  269. 10:16officially on the executors paints them
  270. 10:19as an otherworldly and omnipresent and
  271. 10:21unknowable and that doesn't catch my
  272. 10:23attention so I say all of this and
  273. 10:26everything that comes after with this in
  274. 10:27mind I'm not trying to erase what I
  275. 10:29disliked about the secret ending but I
  276. 10:31also hold on to the hope that I can be
  277. 10:33proven wrong and that maybe something
  278. 10:35does catch me on fire one day and I look
  279. 10:37back on this with a new layer of
  280. 10:39understanding so with that out of the
  281. 10:41way let's talk about the lore we have on
  282. 10:43these weird little guys Prevail guard
  283. 10:46information so the first time we ever
  284. 10:48heard about the executiv was an
  285. 10:50inquisition both in the Codex and the
  286. 10:52war table missions and the Codex very
  287. 10:55specifically the Harden heght toown
  288. 10:56series which are small Snippets of one
  289. 10:58of Eric's books there is one chapter
  290. 11:00where he talks about the executors also
  291. 11:02please excuse this extremely old
  292. 11:04recording of me reading Harden High
  293. 11:05toown I will reuse this until I'm dead
  294. 11:07whose seal is that oh it's the executors
  295. 11:10of course Maisy peered excitedly at the
  296. 11:12Wax Seal holding it up to the window for
  297. 11:14better light I should have guessed it
  298. 11:16from the silly great Powers nonsense
  299. 11:18there's only been one example on the
  300. 11:21letter claiming responsibility for the
  301. 11:22assassination of Queen maderal in
  302. 11:25599 and this one is so much better just
  303. 11:28look at that imprint any idea how I'd
  304. 11:30contact these executiv Donan asked oh
  305. 11:34they're not real of course everyone
  306. 11:36knows that now to explain a bit on Queen
  307. 11:38madreal she was the queen of antiva at
  308. 11:40the end of the exalted age she has
  309. 11:42become famous as she went out on a hunt
  310. 11:44and came back with four different swords
  311. 11:46in her chest her death was so shocking
  312. 11:48to the people of thus the Divine of the
  313. 11:50time actually named the next age the
  314. 11:52steel age in honor of that image but as
  315. 11:55you may notice this is located in a work
  316. 11:57of fiction in lore does that note
  317. 12:00actually exist in the book to Vinter
  318. 12:02Knights the short story eight little
  319. 12:04Talons brings up the death of the queen
  320. 12:06and a group of crow leaders talk about
  321. 12:07the death as if it was a famous
  322. 12:09assassination by the crows now while I'm
  323. 12:12content to assume that the in-law work
  324. 12:14of fiction is fictional I think there is
  325. 12:16also room here to guess that it could be
  326. 12:19both someone had to make a contract on
  327. 12:22the Queen's life and it could have been
  328. 12:24the executors now all that aside The
  329. 12:26Inquisitor ends up stumbling upon the
  330. 12:28real faction let's read out the entire
  331. 12:30mission to get her facts on the table so
  332. 12:33it all starts with investigate the
  333. 12:34strange chalk markings excerpt from
  334. 12:36rector's report do you know this sign a
  335. 12:39triangle Point down two wavy lines
  336. 12:41throughout it a lookout spotted it in
  337. 12:44chalk on a ruined wall close to one of
  338. 12:45our outposts a cursor inquiry into the
  339. 12:48symbol has revealed nothing archists are
  340. 12:50still looking Argent thinks she saw the
  341. 12:52symbol or something very like it
  342. 12:54scrolled in a ledger that belonged to
  343. 12:55the compest de byard a sweep was done as
  344. 12:58you ordered on almost every Outpost of
  345. 13:00ours has been marked in this manner many
  346. 13:02believe we are being watched to what end
  347. 13:04we do not know you can either send
  348. 13:06Josephine or Liliana on the mission
  349. 13:08which leads to two different outcomes
  350. 13:10lady caprina reports having had a
  351. 13:11wonderful tea with the compest and has
  352. 13:13delivered a transcript of their
  353. 13:14conversation the triangle oh I remember
  354. 13:17it well drawn in one of my open Ledger
  355. 13:19by a visiting an even Trader from whom I
  356. 13:21wish to buy a ship the deal immediately
  357. 13:23fell through I assume I did not react to
  358. 13:26the triangle in a way he anticipated as
  359. 13:28he left he said said to me do not be so
  360. 13:30eager to ride the waves Madame those
  361. 13:32across the sea will come soon enough a
  362. 13:34spies report post it up along the
  363. 13:37Imperial Highway ostensibly to guard
  364. 13:39trade routs and facilitate procuring
  365. 13:40supplies for the Inquisition eyes on all
  366. 13:43approaches fourth night a caravan
  367. 13:45carrying refugees makes camp nearby for
  368. 13:47protection after midnight a young woman
  369. 13:49on crutches makes small talk with a
  370. 13:51patrol guard after he passes she
  371. 13:53crouches and makes the mark on a tent
  372. 13:55post the woman pretends for half an hour
  373. 13:57to know nothing when it becomes clear
  374. 13:59the ruse will not work she kisses an
  375. 14:01andrastian locket and says glory to
  376. 14:03those across the sea she dies the locket
  377. 14:06was poison and after you finish that
  378. 14:08mission you unlock unmask those across
  379. 14:10the sea I had our people remove the
  380. 14:12downward pointing triangle symbols from
  381. 14:14our Outpost they have not made a
  382. 14:16reappearance which means little it's
  383. 14:18clear someone has an interest in the
  384. 14:19Inquisition someone organized with ties
  385. 14:22to those across the sea we've eliminated
  386. 14:25the canari as most obvious suspects
  387. 14:27nonetheless knowing who they're not does
  388. 14:29not tell us who they are what they're
  389. 14:31doing or why they're clever we know that
  390. 14:34and they have resources but so do we and
  391. 14:37they should learn that they are not to
  392. 14:38toy with the Inquisition Liliana for
  393. 14:41this one you can either choose Liliana
  394. 14:42or Cullen compliments to your spy Master
  395. 14:45she is a resourceful woman once she
  396. 14:47traced her agent to Kami and Brea the
  397. 14:49match was ruled in her favor tell sister
  398. 14:51Liliana to call off her dogs save them
  399. 14:53for chifus we suspect also that she has
  400. 14:56gotten all that she can from Sir
  401. 14:57helmouth a caterpillar on a leaf does
  402. 14:59not know there is a forest about him you
  403. 15:02will hear no more from us our intention
  404. 15:04was to watch and we have seen enough cus
  405. 15:06threatens us all and the Inquisition is
  406. 15:08status's only hope for stopping him
  407. 15:10remember that for the moment we are not
  408. 15:12your enemy as a gesture of Goodwill we
  409. 15:14share our knowledge may it prove
  410. 15:16valuable in your coming battle on behalf
  411. 15:18of powers across the sea the executiv
  412. 15:21this option also includes a master demon
  413. 15:23slaying room which is the only prize you
  414. 15:25get three outposts on the Naran border
  415. 15:27were found abandoned with no no sign of
  416. 15:29struggle and nothing destroyed or taken
  417. 15:31but in every camp this message we hold
  418. 15:34your Inquisition in high esteem th's
  419. 15:37present troubles are great but you have
  420. 15:39the strength to meet and conquer them
  421. 15:41more will come we prepare for the day
  422. 15:43and hold vigil do not look for your men
  423. 15:45do not mourn them they have given
  424. 15:47themselves of their own free will to a
  425. 15:49higher cause on behalf of powers across
  426. 15:51the sea the executors for years this is
  427. 15:54all we had until we got to Vinter
  428. 15:56Knights In The Last Story dread will
  429. 15:58take you the position held a small
  430. 16:00Council of interested parties who wanted
  431. 16:01to hunt Sol us down one of them actually
  432. 16:04being one of the executiv here is how
  433. 16:06they are described a figure covered head
  434. 16:08to toe in Black Robes of ir antium
  435. 16:10samite with a thin mesh dropping down to
  436. 16:12cover the hood the dark robes were
  437. 16:14trimmed in a pattern Charter had never
  438. 16:16seen twisting shapes that curled to
  439. 16:18points in places that made her eyes hurt
  440. 16:21a cup of what looked like a dark red
  441. 16:23wine sat before the figure Untouched by
  442. 16:25leather gloved hands but she caught a
  443. 16:28faint whiff of the ocean from his robes
  444. 16:30and something beyond the ocean the
  445. 16:32executive enough the voice that came
  446. 16:35from the executive could have been male
  447. 16:36or female young or old it was less a
  448. 16:39voice than the idea of a voice rendered
  449. 16:42acceptably but no more we came because
  450. 16:45we possess a shared interest in the wolf
  451. 16:48what he is does not concern us the
  452. 16:50executive said the word neutral but
  453. 16:52carrying a weight that made the wine in
  454. 16:54his cup Ripple we across the ocean care
  455. 16:56only for his goals and means of
  456. 16:58accomplish ing them this does not help
  457. 17:00us eliminate the wolf you might as well
  458. 17:03suggest we throw a rock at him the
  459. 17:05executive turned the featureless black
  460. 17:07underneath the hood suddenly looming as
  461. 17:09it is centered on the Assassin you stink
  462. 17:11of lies and fear the Assassin leaned in
  463. 17:14his blade already half from his sheath
  464. 17:16and the aard was suddenly between them
  465. 17:18one hand raised before the Assassin and
  466. 17:20the other resting gently on the
  467. 17:21executive's leather glove please miss
  468. 17:24Ames if we argue none of us will learn
  469. 17:26what we came to find also apologies for
  470. 17:28my friend
  471. 17:29in the story Solace is there in Disguise
  472. 17:31as The Bard and ends up turning the
  473. 17:33thing into stone this is also what he
  474. 17:35later says about them as a whole
  475. 17:37excellent work on the executive Charter
  476. 17:39said you petrified him but not his robes
  477. 17:42I would caution you in dealing with
  478. 17:44those across the sea he said they are
  479. 17:46dangerous more dangerous than the elf
  480. 17:48who threatened the world Charter asked
  481. 17:49and was rewarded with a twitch of his
  482. 17:51lips that acknowledged the point now
  483. 17:53along with all of that something that I
  484. 17:55believe we missed when the book came out
  485. 17:57because there was a much more obvious
  486. 17:58connection with gillon
  487. 18:01Gillan I think horror of horack might be
  488. 18:04related to them as well in the story
  489. 18:06there is something about a gray liquid
  490. 18:08that smells of sea water and it keeps
  491. 18:10coming up over and over and over again
  492. 18:11I'm going to put a pin on this for a
  493. 18:13moment because I want to draw some
  494. 18:14possible conclusions that includes some
  495. 18:16of the stuff we get later on sort of so
  496. 18:18we're moving on new info so if you never
  497. 18:22cracked open the Codex the inclusion of
  498. 18:24the executiv at the end might have come
  499. 18:26as a surprise there are actually a ton
  500. 18:28of referen to them within the game and
  501. 18:30I'm sure I've missed a few uh honestly
  502. 18:33with working on the script I think
  503. 18:34there's been a new thing that gets
  504. 18:35thrown at me like every single day I'm
  505. 18:37sure I'm going to awkwardly include some
  506. 18:39in the edit
  507. 18:40too
  508. 18:42so there's just been a ton of things
  509. 18:45coming up to the surface so if you found
  510. 18:47another that isn't listed here please
  511. 18:49let me know down below and where to find
  512. 18:50it also there is a lot so we're going to
  513. 18:53just kind of shotgun these let's start
  514. 18:55out with the circle you pick up the
  515. 18:56three make up the image that is the
  516. 18:58ending slid so we will talk about that
  517. 18:59in a bit but let's listen to what is
  518. 19:01said each time you pick up a
  519. 19:06piece they interrupt as
  520. 19:11predicted as expected as
  521. 19:15hoped what was that learn
  522. 19:19adapt
  523. 19:27Triumph you return learn we are
  524. 19:31content why are you here what do you
  525. 19:34want not now not
  526. 19:37yet we will show you
  527. 19:42soon this just gets weirder every
  528. 19:48time
  529. 19:50fascinating
  530. 19:53unforeseen who are you must not reveal
  531. 19:57must not alarm
  532. 19:59soon though very
  533. 20:03soon now along with that you also gain a
  534. 20:06codex now the first codex is from adish
  535. 20:08Elf who also found a bit of this
  536. 20:10mysterious Circle not the whole thing
  537. 20:12but like a bit noting that they don't
  538. 20:14think it's from the evanuris nor the
  539. 20:15Forgotten ones because this item doesn't
  540. 20:17feel Elvin nor does it feel evil it
  541. 20:20feels wrong the second codex is from the
  542. 20:23same elf and they found the complete
  543. 20:25circle in the Deep roads the writer had
  544. 20:27been chasing a holla that had somehow
  545. 20:29wandered into deep roads and was found
  546. 20:30cowering in the presence of the circle
  547. 20:33the air in the chamber it was found in
  548. 20:35is described as greasy and a magical
  549. 20:37light that was cast by the elf
  550. 20:38flickering out soon after being casted
  551. 20:41the circle itself is cold to the touch
  552. 20:43even when next to Fire and covered in
  553. 20:45Black triangles and white lines the
  554. 20:48final codecs again from the same elf
  555. 20:50describe how they had been looking for
  556. 20:53more information on the circle finding a
  557. 20:55clue in a report from Clan Sab a
  558. 20:57collapse section of the deep roads that
  559. 20:59smelled like seawater they went into the
  560. 21:01ruin and pushed further than the
  561. 21:02previous Scouts had and that's when they
  562. 21:04saw them they looked like a mass person
  563. 21:07though oddly dressed gray robe gray
  564. 21:09helmets and a mask then they moved fast
  565. 21:14they were suddenly in front of me and
  566. 21:15they were reaching out but there was
  567. 21:17something wrong with their arm it was
  568. 21:19changing shifting eventually the thing
  569. 21:22is hit with an arrow in the chest and
  570. 21:24while the two elves are escaping they
  571. 21:25could feel the entity growing bigger and
  572. 21:28the Beyond the Sea emic writes a letter
  573. 21:30to balara describing what he knows about
  574. 21:32the lands outside of thus all the
  575. 21:34information is largely old to us is just
  576. 21:36kind of summarizing old lore but he
  577. 21:38notes that the lands to the east called
  578. 21:40amaranth has been described as either an
  579. 21:42untouched Paradise or filled with
  580. 21:43settlements made of crystal and obsidian
  581. 21:45without a single soul inhabiting them in
  582. 21:48another codex is described that in
  583. 21:49ancient definer when they still worship
  584. 21:51the old gods and they spoke back
  585. 21:53followers of lucion and emal had a
  586. 21:55disagreement emal's followers wanted to
  587. 21:57build a shield around the to defend
  588. 21:59against those across the sea while
  589. 22:01lucion wanted to create weapons which
  590. 22:04based on description are the same
  591. 22:05weapons at the start of the game in a
  592. 22:07note that andru had used a life force of
  593. 22:09slaves to create a ward which she had
  594. 22:11claimed was to defend Aran from enemies
  595. 22:13across the sea but was actually
  596. 22:15empowering her we also have an actual
  597. 22:17voice line from the listing Tree in The
  598. 22:19Crossroads where gillain and elron talk
  599. 22:21about their
  600. 22:23dreams what of your
  601. 22:27dreams but does the scant refrain and
  602. 22:31shadows nothing
  603. 22:34more in our prison there was
  604. 22:37more I dreamed the songs of the living
  605. 22:42abyss and now mased eyes across the sea
  606. 22:47a storm that drinks the
  607. 22:51sky the future is
  608. 22:55intangible only the past and the present
  609. 22:58matter
  610. 23:01in man rtis there was also a note from
  611. 23:02one of the paper vendors mentioning
  612. 23:04those across the sea and there's even a
  613. 23:05voice line in a crowd about the executiv
  614. 23:07as a myth but I've yet to trigger it
  615. 23:09myself but like the gist is that the
  616. 23:10executiv are known but considered almost
  617. 23:12a conspiracy theory there also seems to
  618. 23:15be more watch exclusive dialogue with
  619. 23:17Emer about a Stillness in the fade and
  620. 23:19thank you to Kira for this clip and yet
  621. 23:22there's so much more than spirits in the
  622. 23:25fade entities and instrumentalities we
  623. 23:28know only by their Shadows if you've
  624. 23:31spotted something in the
  625. 23:32Fades I'm not sure it's only an
  626. 23:36occasional Stillness where movement and
  627. 23:39light should be let's hope I'm imagining
  628. 23:43things we also have the achievements
  629. 23:45from getting the end slide which again
  630. 23:47references this poison fruit and shows
  631. 23:50I'm not even sure what I'm looking at
  632. 23:52like a helmet with a bunch of eyeholes
  633. 23:55and like a little frill on the top for
  634. 23:58what whatever and of course let's talk
  635. 24:00about the actual visuals for the ending
  636. 24:03normally I'm all for an art critique but
  637. 24:05other than pointing out that the major
  638. 24:06events in thus are in like the dotted
  639. 24:08line that has historically represented
  640. 24:10the veil I'm not sure what to say the
  641. 24:13text on the Rings is unlike anything
  642. 24:15I've seen before or at least remember
  643. 24:17and the executive symbol on top looks
  644. 24:19slapped on and crude and unwanted kind
  645. 24:22of almost get the sense that the circles
  646. 24:24actually belong from another culture
  647. 24:26that the executiv took over I don't know
  648. 24:28why I want to say that almost like the
  649. 24:30bodies we see on the executiv could not
  650. 24:32be their own but like a culture long
  651. 24:34dead and controlled or something I don't
  652. 24:35know maybe I'm I'm I'm making this up to
  653. 24:37be honest I'm also interested in why
  654. 24:40loan and bartran do not have orbs but
  655. 24:43are rather replacing Rings themselves
  656. 24:46unlike the events of Inquisition and the
  657. 24:47breaking of the Golden City and even the
  658. 24:49events of this game I don't see any
  659. 24:52significance in the number of orbs or
  660. 24:54rings as they seem to just be going off
  661. 24:56the screen into Infinity I I guess
  662. 24:59overall I'm not quite sure what to make
  663. 25:02of it visually other than a suggestion
  664. 25:05that the executiv have been at least
  665. 25:07watching for quite a while however I do
  666. 25:09find it curious that for a group that
  667. 25:11has a lot of connections to circles they
  668. 25:13simple as incredibly angular it almost
  669. 25:16seems like a contradiction now something
  670. 25:18else I want to bring up here there is
  671. 25:20another thing I want to rope into this
  672. 25:21discussion the devouring storm the only
  673. 25:25connection that the two have that they
  674. 25:26both come from across the sea
  675. 25:28but just to be complete let's bring in
  676. 25:30some devouring storm information now
  677. 25:32most of the devouring storm info comes
  678. 25:34from Tasha's quest line where we finally
  679. 25:36learn the truth of the tablet if
  680. 25:37breathed upon by dragon's breath or
  681. 25:39byash themselves it reveals the full
  682. 25:41message I thought you already had a copy
  683. 25:45we destroyed
  684. 25:46it why the spirit says that the words
  685. 25:50held therein must never be written only
  686. 25:53words of fire may carry the message
  687. 25:55safely but why bring your fire to the
  688. 25:58tablet TSH We Will Show
  689. 26:04You by dragon flame come these words
  690. 26:07trust no taale not hidden by the fire
  691. 26:11when the Great foe struck we embraced
  692. 26:13the blood of dragons Champions blessed
  693. 26:16with fire protected us and saw the
  694. 26:18Unseen we escaped to Distant Shores but
  695. 26:22found no peace disease will lay us low
  696. 26:26if more of us flee across the ocean it
  697. 26:28means our people fail prepare then for
  698. 26:32the devouring
  699. 26:34storm the weatherman at Tasha's Quest
  700. 26:36also says this perhaps I am too
  701. 26:39Oklahoman for this but as a side note I
  702. 26:41want to throw in that as a child living
  703. 26:42in Tornado Alley in the laundry list of
  704. 26:45things I was taught to look out for with
  705. 26:46tornadoes was green clouds and while not
  706. 26:50a foolproof way to predict them they are
  707. 26:52common enough that when the sky turns a
  708. 26:53bit green I get a little antsy this
  709. 26:56mixed with the symbol being very tornado
  710. 26:59adjacent makes me curious if the
  711. 27:02devouring storm is describing like a
  712. 27:04hurricane or a tornado or something like
  713. 27:06that Spite has also written some unknown
  714. 27:10and slightly confusing stuff about
  715. 27:11storms and what I'm reading into as like
  716. 27:13an eye of the storm with Stillness in
  717. 27:15the center and just because I have a
  718. 27:18hunch I also want to throw in an narus
  719. 27:20here because of this one line that he
  720. 27:22says after you defeat him I will not go
  721. 27:26back you will not send
  722. 27:31me I must escape it's
  723. 27:36I now reading the codec andaris quest
  724. 27:38line also gives you a series about a
  725. 27:40strange mysterious substance that anars
  726. 27:42was studying this substance is always
  727. 27:45cold no matter how you heat it and also
  728. 27:47devours magic bolara makes note that the
  729. 27:50word devour shows up again and again in
  730. 27:52these notes and it is very specifically
  731. 27:54that word the notes seem to date back
  732. 27:56from the time of ancient arth where
  733. 27:58anars fed the substance to one of his
  734. 28:00minions and while he became stronger
  735. 28:02something was odd eventually the minion
  736. 28:04found and drank the rest of the
  737. 28:06substance his form changing and Shone
  738. 28:08with such a strong light it killed the
  739. 28:10others that were around him with anars
  740. 28:12barely shielding himself in time now
  741. 28:15with all of that I have a little
  742. 28:17confession to make one of the reasons
  743. 28:19this videos is coming out so long after
  744. 28:20release is that a few friends and I have
  745. 28:22been busy you see we headed into the
  746. 28:25mines the data mines so I want to give a
  747. 28:29quick disclaimer on this section data
  748. 28:31mins are in the end cut content and
  749. 28:35things get cut for reasons due to the
  750. 28:37nature of how we found this info things
  751. 28:39are also super scrambled up and we don't
  752. 28:41know the true context of things or even
  753. 28:44how final some of the stuff was the best
  754. 28:47use of this information is to get a
  755. 28:48small idea on where things could have
  756. 28:50headed and make educated guesses on what
  757. 28:52could be the art book is actually also
  758. 28:55super important in piecing some of this
  759. 28:56stuff together as well as some the
  760. 28:58language used in explaining the concept
  761. 29:00art images is the same language we see
  762. 29:02in the files as the case with the
  763. 29:04Scoundrels I also want to say that we
  764. 29:06are by no means an expert on Data Mining
  765. 29:08and at this time the data mining tools
  766. 29:09are super experimental and there is a
  767. 29:11lot we have found but are unable to open
  768. 29:13or even look at so more may come out as
  769. 29:16time goes on now all that out of the way
  770. 29:19hey there is a lot of cut content in
  771. 29:21this game oh my God the things we found
  772. 29:25we have been sitting on a massive text
  773. 29:26document which to give you like a sense
  774. 29:28of scale this thing I copy and paste it
  775. 29:30into a Word program for a page count and
  776. 29:32it's over
  777. 29:342,000 Pages we aren't sure what the file
  778. 29:38is used for but inside is basically
  779. 29:39anything that is written we got codex
  780. 29:41entries dialogue item description notes
  781. 29:43and weirdly enough some descriptions of
  782. 29:46cutscenes and temporary dialogue with
  783. 29:48something as big and unsorted as this
  784. 29:50thing is at this point we are just
  785. 29:52searching for words that are of interest
  786. 29:54to us but uh one thing we found is that
  787. 29:57at least one version of the ending
  788. 29:59didn't actually end with the final
  789. 30:00battle you would have gone back to the
  790. 30:02lighthouse and even have been able to
  791. 30:04continue exploring the world similar to
  792. 30:06Inquisition in one description we found
  793. 30:08there was to be an all hands meeting
  794. 30:10where they talked about the threat of
  795. 30:11the executiv and that that was the point
  796. 30:13of the veil guard staying Vigilant the
  797. 30:16kicker is that we also found some
  798. 30:18extremely mixed up dialogue that I I
  799. 30:21think was to be spoken by an executive
  800. 30:23who we found textures for and who was
  801. 30:25even in the art book as something we
  802. 30:27could have fought
  803. 30:28at this time the tool we have been using
  804. 30:30does not open mesh files and sound but
  805. 30:32given enough time we might be able to
  806. 30:34find a character model and if we're
  807. 30:36lucky maybe some voice lines let's talk
  808. 30:39about the I'm not even sure what it is
  809. 30:43or what to call it I think for the sake
  810. 30:44of probably having to refer to this
  811. 30:46again in the future I'm going to call
  812. 30:47this the poem of the executors given the
  813. 30:50bits we have it's uh like we could come
  814. 30:53up with a better name this is just what
  815. 30:55I'm calling it in this section of the
  816. 30:57five is just a bunch of mixed up lines
  817. 31:01the words executor is all over here and
  818. 31:03there are clearly titles and verses but
  819. 31:05I have no idea what the order is and
  820. 31:08it's some really juicy stuff but again
  821. 31:10given how mixed up this is I hesitate to
  822. 31:12try and draw conclusions there might
  823. 31:14even be lines in other places are missed
  824. 31:16and some of this could just be lines
  825. 31:18from other parts of the game that are
  826. 31:19mixed in I I will say given the format
  827. 31:22is completely different to some of the
  828. 31:23other dialogue we have so I I do think
  829. 31:25these are chunks that are related but
  830. 31:28I'm not 100% sure either but let's talk
  831. 31:31about some highlights there is one line
  832. 31:33that looks like a title called
  833. 31:34sublimation of the executors now that
  834. 31:37alone is quite a word for those that
  835. 31:39skip sl's class or English is a second
  836. 31:41language sublimation is the process of a
  837. 31:43solid becoming a gas while skipping the
  838. 31:45liquid state and I'm just sort of
  839. 31:47reminded of what happened to an nars's
  840. 31:49minion here there are also a few lines
  841. 31:51that mention a she she was glorious so
  842. 31:54were we unfortunately true power cannot
  843. 31:57abide claims of the same she had weapons
  844. 32:00we must assume no Trace remains save the
  845. 32:03craters in existence and I am reminded
  846. 32:06here of Gillan name possibly having a
  847. 32:08connection with them a few other lines
  848. 32:10that sound important but I don't know
  849. 32:12what to make of them we cannot see you
  850. 32:14but we use your choice to craft
  851. 32:16ourselves our way back made by enemies
  852. 32:19of one belief of another the Caged gods
  853. 32:22of yet another are we up to this task
  854. 32:25the path that leads back the storm will
  855. 32:27decide
  856. 32:28the highest Dragon there is a hand
  857. 32:31behind the waves your hand you bring
  858. 32:34your own storm having read through it a
  859. 32:36couple times now I'm not even sure how
  860. 32:38one would order this but at the very
  861. 32:41least there is talk about storms choices
  862. 32:43and old war and I would even say like a
  863. 32:46sense of loss of time like they don't
  864. 32:49see time as linear maybe that's just me
  865. 32:52now aside of all that there is a
  866. 32:53collection of VoiceOver notes to be used
  867. 32:55for characters that talk I believe the
  868. 32:57in-game voice that we hear when
  869. 32:58collecting a circle titled like a bunch
  870. 33:00of question marks is voiced by Matt
  871. 33:02Mercer but the notes say this about the
  872. 33:04direction of the voice a mask and hooded
  873. 33:07figure that speaks like someone
  874. 33:08unfamiliar with language in general
  875. 33:11stilted awkward but with low Menace and
  876. 33:14in another section stilted is trying to
  877. 33:16form words from thoughts that are far
  878. 33:18more complex than a regular person's
  879. 33:21again this is all well and good but we
  880. 33:23do have to be worried about using cut
  881. 33:25content for lore as things change for
  882. 33:27reasons
  883. 33:28that said Inquisition did have a few
  884. 33:30data mind nuggets that ended up being
  885. 33:32true in Veil guard so results May Vary
  886. 33:36my theory so that was a lot of vague
  887. 33:38ideas and I know a bunch of you are
  888. 33:40probably asking what all this means and
  889. 33:41I want to be clear that I don't
  890. 33:44know I I don't know uh but I at least
  891. 33:47want to throw my hat in the ring for
  892. 33:49what I think is happening and I could be
  893. 33:50totally wrong I believe there are two
  894. 33:52different groups here the executiv and
  895. 33:54those across the sea while the
  896. 33:56executives act upon the interest of what
  897. 33:58I'm going to officially dub tats because
  898. 34:00I can't be [ __ ] saying those across
  899. 34:01the sea for how many years we will wait
  900. 34:03for this plot point to be revealed uh
  901. 34:05but anyway they are acting for them not
  902. 34:07actually them and at the very least the
  903. 34:09tats are old as old as ancient elvon and
  904. 34:13were considered a threat even back then
  905. 34:15there is some interaction with the
  906. 34:16evanuris and them and I want to say that
  907. 34:19Gillan had some sort of dealing with
  908. 34:22them either stealing or trading for that
  909. 34:24mysterious magic goop that was seen in
  910. 34:26horror of horac I also think that this
  911. 34:29is what made the lium green yellow in
  912. 34:31color and they seem to haunt her for
  913. 34:34this and that alone is actually an
  914. 34:35incredible feat and I do wonder how much
  915. 34:37of this has to do with the property of
  916. 34:38the goop being able to nullify magic and
  917. 34:41I also think anara stumbled upon this as
  918. 34:43well and that perhaps his minion who
  919. 34:45drank the substance somehow became an
  920. 34:48executive orats in the note and narus
  921. 34:50notes that the evanuris will likely be
  922. 34:52coming to figure out what happened here
  923. 34:54so I'm assuming this might even be how
  924. 34:56Gillan first caught wind of the stuff
  925. 34:58somewhere in all this the canari are
  926. 35:00involved and I think they came from the
  927. 35:02land where tats are from there was some
  928. 35:05sort of War and the survivors fled to
  929. 35:07thus where like Tash who we previously
  930. 35:10saw as the scaled ones I believe and
  931. 35:11that's a whole other concept that we
  932. 35:12have not touched uh but uh they wared
  933. 35:14the door centuries ago we're moving on
  934. 35:16but they were made to fend them off
  935. 35:19somehow but it seems like it was not
  936. 35:21enough so trying to shorten this even
  937. 35:23further tat seems to be an ancient being
  938. 35:26from across the sea and the executors
  939. 35:28work for them they're able to nullify
  940. 35:30magic but are possibly weak to Dragon
  941. 35:33Fire Gillan and maybe anaris had some
  942. 35:36dealing with them and they didn't seem
  943. 35:38too happy about it and they are a force
  944. 35:40that soless warns you against yet
  945. 35:43they're also interested in him and his
  946. 35:45actions because it affects him somehow
  947. 35:48the question we have now is what do they
  948. 35:51want what is the poison fruit and what
  949. 35:54makes it ripe now the ending bit makes
  950. 35:57it seem that the Elven gods were partly
  951. 35:58the reason why they didn't act however
  952. 36:00they were locked away in asleep for
  953. 36:02centuries why act now my guess is blight
  954. 36:06related perhaps they are sensitive to
  955. 36:08the blight and with that largely
  956. 36:10changing out of the picture they can do
  957. 36:14whatever they want to do that would then
  958. 36:17make thus the poison fruit poisoned by
  959. 36:19the blight there is another thought here
  960. 36:22that perhaps given the title of
  961. 36:23devouring storm and the goop's ability
  962. 36:26fizzle out Magic they might consume
  963. 36:28magic or dreams if all they wanted was
  964. 36:31land they could have easily done so by
  965. 36:32now and from here I don't know I really
  966. 36:36don't but I want to leave you with one
  967. 36:38thing whatever they are the scoop the
  968. 36:40substance that absorbs and chills and
  969. 36:41seems to twist flesh to horrible
  970. 36:43monsters if this belongs to the tats
  971. 36:45then it's something that canari feared
  972. 36:47and they tried to fight back with the
  973. 36:49power of dragons a quote from yavana
  974. 36:52another Witch of the Wilds from the
  975. 36:53comics that has yet to be really
  976. 36:54explained is the blood of the Dragons is
  977. 36:57the blood of the world and I just can't
  978. 36:59help but shake the feeling that maybe
  979. 37:01it's related and that your Patron is all
  980. 37:03that I have on the secret ending I'm
  981. 37:05sort of throwing just like a bunch of
  982. 37:07Concepts together that I'm not even
  983. 37:08completely sure are actually related I'm
  984. 37:10really just going based on Vibes for
  985. 37:13this but what do you think do still
  986. 37:15lingering questions proof that I'm wrong
  987. 37:17comments about your own fan Theory feel
  988. 37:19free to tweet me at acon on Twitter or
  989. 37:20blue sky and AR rest your rooll

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