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0:00I got good news for you. So there's a
0:01way to use Grokbot so that you can have
0:04your own design team, engineering team,
0:06content team, personal shopping team,
0:08business team. And by the end of this
0:10episode, we are going to show you how to
0:12use it so you can set it up
0:14today on your own. This could be one of
0:17the most important videos I've done in a
0:18long time because I believe that Grokbot
0:21is a new interface to the internet. Now,
0:24how can you actually set this up today?
0:27Like right now. How can you set it up?
0:29In today's episode, I have my friend
0:31Ross Mike. He's literally one of the
0:32best explainers of AI on the internet.
0:35He comes on, he shares exactly how he's
0:38using Grokbot and how you can copy it
0:40today. [music]
0:41So I think this is a very important
0:42episode because there isn't a de facto
0:45master class for Grokbot using AI
0:48agents, how it plays in the whole
0:50ecosystem. [music]
0:51And you're going to get it explained to
0:52you by literally one of the best
0:54explainers of AI in the internet, my
0:56friend Ross [music] Mike. Stoked to have
0:58him. Let's get into it.
1:00>> The startup [singing] I just
1:02podcast.
1:02[music]
1:04Sipping time, baby.
1:07>> What's up, Mickey? By the end of this
1:09podcast, what are people going to learn?
1:11>> You're going to learn how to be a
1:12Grokbot maxi. Like it's the only
1:14personal agent that I've used and not
1:16only as a personal agent, but as an
1:18orchestrator to do a lot of great work.
1:20It's by far in my humble opinion the
1:22best one. And you're going to learn how
1:24I maximize and how you too can maximize
1:26it to the fullest.
1:28>> Okay, so by the end of it, you're going
1:30to show clear examples and which
1:31categories and can you commit to
1:34basically, if people stick around to the
1:36end, that they'll be basically be able
1:38to copy what you're doing, implement it
1:40in their daily lives, and good stuff
1:42will happen?
1:43>> Yeah, if and if I don't, if like if I
1:45don't fulfill the promise, I will come
1:47to your house and make you hot cocoa.
1:50[laughter]
1:52Let's do it.
1:53So I'm going to share my screen.
1:55There's some different ways that I use
1:57Grokbot and I'm just going to basically
1:58share like how it in engineering,
2:00design, content ideation. I know this is
2:03a startup ideas podcast. We're going to
2:04talk a little bit about business and
2:05finance. And the last one is the most
2:07interesting one is shopping. So I'm
2:09going to get straight into engineering.
2:11I'm just going to show you examples,
2:13right? So the one thing that I really
2:15like about Grokbot and I will like maybe
2:17zoom in so you can see it. I have
2:20multiple bots for specific projects. Now
2:24what's interesting about Grokbot and I
2:25think they're the ones who innovated on
2:27this, instead of having um multiple
2:30threads with like the same like agent,
2:33um they sort of architected these like
2:36bots which are basically contextual,
2:38have sort of their own set of skills and
2:40its own computer. And I find that like
2:44from an architectural perspective, I
2:45don't know if it's better um doing it
2:47like the chat GBT way or the way Grokbot
2:49does it, but mentally for me, I love the
2:52bot system. And the reason why is I
2:55basically now have like each bot
2:57contextualized to a specific piece of
2:59work, right? So when I'm working on
3:01let's say my Bezalel app or I'm working
3:03on my Bible app, I know exactly what I'm
3:06working on. So like even mentally for
3:08me, this like contextual block really
3:10helps. But for engineering, the way I
3:13usually work is I have an engineering
3:15bot and this bot has context to all my
3:18projects. And I'll usually shoot ideas.
3:21Like for example, like like a random
3:24idea that I have no knowledge about that
3:26I'll show you guys in a second.
3:29So I have this bot called AI Governance
3:32bid uh Greg and this is basically a
3:34friend of mine who works in the States
3:36told me that he does government
3:38contracting and he's in AI governance,
3:40right? And as someone who's heavily in
3:43AI, um the term AI and governance put
3:46together sounded interesting. So I asked
3:48my Grokbot, can you find some uh like
3:52bids that exist um you know that the
3:54government has for AI governance? And it
3:56started to work and it did that. And
3:59what's also interesting is I asked my
4:01engineering bot to work on a simple AI
4:04governance app. And I I did this at
4:07night. I woke up and I'm going to show
4:10you the app that it created for me.
4:12The app that it created, if I go to my
4:14GitHub repo,
4:15is this right here. Goshen ashore, AI
4:19governance compliance platform
4:22proprietary to Goshen Labs Inc. Now, do
4:25I have a clue how any of this works?
4:27Absolutely not. I have no idea. I
4:30haven't even run this. But the reason
4:32why I share this is when it comes to
4:34engineering, one of the best things that
4:35you could do with a Grok bot is
4:37literally just share with it your random
4:39ideas. Whatever ideas you have, whatever
4:41information you have, literally tell
4:43your Grok bot, like if you have an
4:44engineer bot, you can create one, and
4:46tell it just make this, give me
4:48something that works, push to my GitHub,
4:50and I'll check it later. So now, Greg, I
4:53have an abundance of ideas always being
4:56worked on. But those are just ideas.
4:58Let's talk about actual like shipping uh
5:01product, shipping projects. I'll give
5:03you a very clear example. Pluto is one
5:05of my apps that I've been working on for
5:07some time, and we're doing a slight
5:09pivot. And the pivot is basically we
5:11want to be able for people to use Pluto,
5:14and then with the data that like is in
5:16the Pluto app in their instance, for
5:18them to be able to fine-tune like a base
5:20model like Coin, right? This was just an
5:24idea. Now, I worked on this idea with a
5:26friend. We went back and forth, and
5:29basically he he used Claude code to
5:32create a PDF.
5:33And I downloaded that PDF, and I just
5:36gave it to my agent. I literally just
5:38said review this. I didn't tell it build
5:39this, I didn't say do this. I just said
5:42review it. Look what it says here. It
5:43says I read it, review the key decisions
5:45written, anything had to change. And
5:46then it's a good direction, but I
5:48wouldn't approve the build plan
5:49unchanged. It gave me issues as to why
5:53um there's some issues with the build
5:54plan, and it gave me some recommendation
5:57scope. I said this thing is mandatory,
5:59and then it's an understood I'll go with
6:01this core offering. And then I even
6:03shared with it a tweet asked if someone
6:06ask you for the type of product I wanted
6:07to build.
6:08It did that. It took the information I
6:11gave it and then it gave me a better
6:14plan as to how we should go about
6:16building this, right? And then you know
6:18what's crazy? I literally sent this to
6:20my friend and he gave me a response. You
6:22know what I did with the response? I
6:24copy pasted it. This was literally his
6:26response.
6:27Cuz you could see he uses my name here.
6:29And then I pasted it and then it worked
6:32and it it it's like okay 70% threshold
6:35blah blah blah and then it gave me a new
6:36plan. And this time so this is where I
6:39actually stepped in and I reviewed the
6:41plan and I'm like oh this is excellent.
6:43So guess what I told her Greg? Build it
6:44out. Now here's how I use Grok bot. Now
6:48you might some people might call me a
6:50subscription maxi.
6:52To me personally if you're watching this
6:53podcast you should 100% take advantage
6:56of the subscriptions available. The
6:58Cloud Code $200 month plan gets you
7:00anywhere between $8,000 to $12,000 worth
7:03of API token credits. In my humble
7:06opinion unless you're in dire financial
7:08need it seems irresponsible to not
7:11pay for that and take advantage until
7:14the wheels fall off. So I have Grok bot
7:17connected to Cloud Code and I use Grok
7:19bot as an orchestrator because Opus 55
7:22is still the most incredible model when
7:24it comes to engineering but I love using
7:26Grok bot as a orchestrator. So I
7:29literally look the most basic prompts
7:31you know back in the day we used to
7:32worry about prompt engineering. Now I
7:33just tell it how I feel. Build out
7:35everything use Cloud Code with Ultra
7:37Code Opus 55. If you need multiple
7:39sessions go ahead slash goal.
7:42And then it went on for hours. You could
7:44see this is yesterday. And then look
7:46what I got. I got
7:48working PRs.
7:50Working PRs five out of five PRs.
7:52And now I have people testing the
7:53feature.
7:55Right? So
7:56>> You could I see like you're using Grok
7:59bot to orchestrate. You could
8:01theoretically use
8:02Cloud Code, Codex.
8:05Like why especially you like you're an
8:07engineer, like why, why use Grokbot?
8:10>> The UX win from Grokbot is absolutely
8:14incredible. Like for me, like
8:18if I'm in like I use T3 code to use
8:20Claude code cuz I have multiple
8:21subscriptions and I use Codex as well.
8:24But the one benefit that Grokbot has is
8:27just and I'm telling you people, if you
8:29haven't tried it, you should try it. The
8:31UX feel, meaning like I can feel like I
8:34was I was in my mom's house yesterday,
8:36you know, we were having dinner um once
8:38a week I go to my mom's house to have
8:40dinner. Can I tell you I was crushing
8:42PRs
8:43using [snorts]
8:44state-of-the-art models
8:46from my phone with an app that actually
8:49feels good to use, right? And this is
8:51the problem with like if you use the
8:53ChatGPT app, you get a bunch of threats.
8:55The threats get mixed up on one thread
8:57I'm working on one project, the other
8:58thread. But because I'm talking to bots,
9:01because I'm talking to bots and the bot
9:03is named and it's clear and has context,
9:05like it's more of a feeling and a vibe,
9:08but the UX gains I've gone from using
9:10Grokbot to orchestrate my Claude code
9:13sessions has been incredible, right? So
9:16it's not even like a like oh I could
9:18just directly use Claude code, yes, but
9:21I am telling you I am more productive
9:23going back and forth with Grokbot,
9:25especially when I'm managing multiple
9:26projects cuz at the same time while
9:29doing this, I'm working on a project
9:31called VP Cloud. And VP Cloud is
9:33basically uh a Canadian sovereign cloud,
9:37meaning all the like you know a Vercel,
9:39whatever like deploy your AI models,
9:41whatever completely in on on GPUs that
9:44live in Canada. Am I a for a guy? Am I a
9:47cloud guy? Do I understand these things
9:49at a base level? Sure. Would I write
9:51code by hand to build this stuff? No.
9:53What do I do? I literally get Grokbot to
9:56spin a bunch of sessions, but not only
9:58that uh maybe
10:00I can show this, but
10:03not only did Grokbot build out the app,
10:06Grokbot is currently doing the
10:08negotiation with one of the GPU
10:09providers here in Canada. So I can maybe
10:12share the email a little bit. Uh I don't
10:15know if I can show the entire thing. Let
10:17me find
10:17>> while you're pulling that up, I think a
10:19a brand new feature of Grokbot, I think
10:21it just launched, is the ability to call
10:24using Grokbot. Did you see that?
10:26>> Yeah, which is incredible. Fortunately
10:28not um not available to us Canadians. Um
10:31I can't find maybe it called it used one
10:33of my other bots, but the my VP Cloud
10:36Project bot called one of told one of my
10:39other bots to email the provider to see
10:41if I can get a discount. He even
10:43mentioned that I was a YouTuber and I
10:44have this many subs and I can say it's
10:46powered by this.
10:48I didn't tell it to do that. I didn't
10:50give it that idea. It literally just
10:52said all the costs are a little too high
10:54compared to the American equivalents.
10:56Maybe we can get a discount. And this is
10:58the part of merging my engineering work
11:01with a personal agent that makes sense
11:03cuz with Claude Code I'm just getting
11:05straight engineering, right? With
11:06Grokbot I can have similar access to the
11:10beast of an engineer that Claude Code is
11:12plus the personal side of a personal
11:14agent like being able to send out
11:16emails, negotiate for me, request
11:18refunds, right? So the reason why I'm
11:21using Grokbot versus straight Claude
11:23Code uh Greg is the UX and the fact that
11:26the personal agent can handle business
11:28side as well.
11:29Uh multiple apps, my Bible app, uh
11:32terminal. Do you know what terminal is
11:33uh Greg? You'll actually find this so
11:35funny.
11:36Terminal
11:37is the trading app I built because I
11:39like how Bloomberg looks, but I don't
11:42feel like spending $30,000 on a on a on
11:44a Bloomberg terminal. So I built
11:47something snappy.
11:48Like this is pretty snappy and
11:50>> Mhm.
11:50>> and not only that, it actually works. I
11:52can switch to live, connect my brokerage
11:54account and lose money right now live. I
11:57could do that.
11:58I wrote I built this using Rust, meaning
12:00it is super performance, super fast.
12:02Like you can see how snappy this is.
12:05Um
12:06I didn't write a single line of code. I
12:08didn't go to Claude Code. I literally
12:10kept telling Grokbot exactly what to do,
12:13right? And even now like we're um there
12:16is this exchange um I'm not a big I'm
12:19not a big fan of promoting crypto but
12:20there's a crypto exchange that has a
12:22really
12:23great way of being able to uh have
12:25synthetic stocks. So not the actual
12:27stock but a a token that mirrors the
12:29stock and their project's open source
12:31and all that stuff. So you know what I
12:33did? I asked my Grokbot I'm like
12:35um oh look at this yeah side quest. How
12:38would it look like to build our own
12:39crypto and stock server node? I want to
12:41build a synthetic I want to build
12:43synthetic stocks for the entire market.
12:44What would that look like? Spin up a new
12:46bot that I can chat with.
12:48And then it set up a new bot called
12:49exchange.
12:51And
12:52um it told me legalities this this that
12:54and that and I'm saying I look look what
12:56I said I'm not asking you to be
12:57realistic nor am I asking you to swap
12:59what we built for Hyperliquid. I want us
13:01to build something novel. I want us to
13:03build an engine whatever it is where we
13:04can like so I'm literally just talking
13:07to the way I would talk to another
13:08person. No fancy prompt trick or
13:11anything like that.
13:12And then it came up with a plan. Now
13:14these artifacts are probably one of my
13:15favorite feature cuz visually it's easy
13:18for me to just go through this and
13:19understand what it's talking about. I
13:21breezed through it. I liked it. I was
13:23like okay fire.
13:25You see that prompt engineering grant?
13:26Fire.
13:27>> Mhm.
13:27>> Spin up the VPS clock so I have a VPS
13:30connected to my network. So I said spin
13:33up the VPS I I should have said in the
13:34VPS but it understood me. Cloud code
13:36ultra code Opus 55 with tons of Sun
13:39eight sub ages to get this done.
13:41Now six years ago is this an accept like
13:43sorry six months ago would this be an
13:45acceptable prompt?
13:47>> Absolutely
13:49>> Absolutely not. Now like it goes on
13:52building building and then now we're I'm
13:54trying to figure out what like hosting
13:56provider I can um
13:58uh deploy this on.
14:00Right like so in terms of engineering
14:03like the best workflow I I would I would
14:05share is
14:07I don't think Grokbot alone is is great
14:09for engineering. So the way I would look
14:11at it is I 'm using Grokbot and I'm
14:13giving Grokbot access to Claude Code.
14:17And the reason why I'm picking Claude
14:19Code over Codex is first and foremost
14:21Opus 55 is the better model. This could
14:23change if if OpenAI drops a better
14:25model, we'll probably flip. But right
14:27now the subsidies are just like like
14:31like you're getting $200 $200
14:33subscription, you're getting like $8,000
14:35worth of API credits, right? So if $200
14:38doesn't hurt the bank,
14:40it is absolutely irresponsible to not
14:42take advantage of this subsidy while it
14:44lasts. Um now someone might be asking
14:46how am I using how have I connected
14:48GrokBot to Claude Code? There's two easy
14:51ways to do There's two ways to do it.
14:53The easy way and the way I've done it.
14:55The easy way is every bot um has a
14:58computer,
14:59right? So you can literally tell it,
15:01hey, log into Claude Code on your
15:03computer and it can access it via that.
15:05I have a network of machines that I've
15:07connected via Tailscale. I use T3 Code
15:11and because T3 Code is already set up,
15:13every time I tell GrokBot to use uh
15:15Claude Code, it just spins up a T T3
15:18Code instance. Now here's the thing,
15:19someone might be like, oh, but you
15:21didn't explain how to set up the T3 Code
15:23thing or what if I just want to use
15:24Claude Code? I completely understand
15:26that. Ask your agent cuz that's what I
15:29did. I'm not a networking guy, Greg. I
15:31don't know. Maybe I can show it right
15:32here. You can see like I have a like a
15:34rig here with a bunch of computers. My
15:37laptop's podcast I can't show.
15:39All that's connected. I have multiple
15:41agents working. How does the networking
15:43work? How like I don't I I'm not a
15:46networking guy. But the models have gone
15:49so good. If you can think it and it's
15:51possible and it's been done, just ask
15:54the model how and you will literally get
15:56it done. So
15:57that's kind of how I've been using it
15:59for engineering, segmenting each project
16:01into its own bot if it's serious enough,
16:03going back and forth, getting my GrokBot
16:06to spin up Claude Code sessions. Now can
16:08you go directly to Claude Code? Yes. Why
16:10am I using GrokBot? I love the UX and
16:13the feeling and I feel super productive
16:15and my phone actually feels useful And
16:18even like without like they you can call
16:21the bot directly. So I'll be driving,
16:23I'll put the bot on speaker um and I'll
16:26I can like talk with it and it can get
16:28work done, right? And before it was like
16:30a gimmick, but now like this is
16:32genuinely something useful to me. So
16:35this is what I've been doing with the
16:36engineering side. Um let me know Greg if
16:39I missed anything or any questions
16:40arise.
16:42>> So
16:43it's easy to fall into the trap of
16:46having too many bots. Like
16:49>> Yes.
16:51>> I you know you you showed an example of
16:52like spin up a bot for you know
16:56exchange.
16:56>> Mhm.
16:57>> Um
16:58are you saying the most
17:00optimal way to use Grok bot is basically
17:03to just spin up bots per project and
17:07like cuz I've seen other people have
17:09like per employee, per jobs to be done.
17:12Like it's kind of a spectrum, right? Um
17:15what's your
17:16>> yeah the way I would think about it is
17:18like like context is my decider, right?
17:20So if for example like if you notice I
17:23have an engineer bot, but then I have
17:25bots for separate projects. Now the
17:27reason why I have an engineer bot is
17:28some things, some ideas, for example uh
17:32let me see if I can pull this up here. I
17:35have this
17:36widget right here or this extension
17:37called Still and it basically just takes
17:40screenshots.
17:41This was two prompts with my Grok bot.
17:44This does not deserve its own bot. So I
17:47have a general engineering bot for
17:49random ideas,
17:51but for anything that I deem serious or
17:53I want to launch to people or like I
17:57want to continue to working on to work
17:59on, that will get its own bot. But guess
18:02what happens once something is useless?
18:04I right click and I delete.
18:06So I am not afraid to delete bots that
18:08have like not served their purpose. Like
18:10for example um there's just like Toronto
18:12curriculum bill whatever whatever. This
18:14is over. Delete.
18:16Done.
18:17Right? So
18:18you can get into bot fatigue where have
18:2115 different bots for 15 different
18:23things. I think when I want to divide my
18:26mind into different groups because
18:27something requires my attention, that's
18:30when it becomes like a bot. So Pluto is
18:32an important project. I I'm taking it
18:34seriously. Deserves its own bot. The
18:36Bible app, I'm really having fun with
18:37this, deserves its own bot. Bezalel,
18:40believe it or not Greg, I'm at $200 MRR,
18:42deserves its own bot. Terminal will
18:45probably get deleted in two days. I'm
18:46going to be honest with you. Same with
18:48Exchange, right?
18:50So I'm cycling through these different
18:52bots
18:54on the regular. But there's some
18:55permanent ones I have. For example, IT,
18:57which I don't think I'll open because
18:58it'll leak some IP addresses, is like
19:00manages my fleet.
19:02ML
19:03basically handles all my local model
19:05stuff, right? Downloading models,
19:07fine-tuning models, and all that stuff.
19:09And I can get into that as well. I have
19:10been fine-tuning models using Grokbot,
19:13right? My content stuff I'm usually like
19:16I'm
19:17content all the time, content now. So
19:20those bots only. So I would say as long
19:22as there's a huge amount of context
19:24regarding a certain task, maybe that
19:26dictates its own bot. But the moment
19:29something's useless,
19:30delete it cuz that's what I do.
19:33>> And okay, we'll we'll actually we'll get
19:35into it later. Before we move on to
19:39I was going to ask a question, but we'll
19:40get into it on the content once we get
19:41into content.
19:43I will ask before before we move on
19:46around just cuz people are going to say,
19:48okay, great. This guy's like shipping a
19:50bunch of projects, but like I haven't
19:52seen security anywhere. How do I know
19:54that these projects are secure?
19:56What's your response to that?
19:58>> So
20:00the I and the reason why I didn't share
20:02this is I have access to an obliterated
20:05model,
20:06which is basically a model where the
20:08guard rails are removed. So it's a
20:10really really bad model. It could be a
20:11really really bad model, but a lot of
20:14companies use it to defend themselves,
20:16right? Like the open code, the railways.
20:19I don't think they have they might have
20:20had access to Mythos or Daybreak, but um
20:23lot of companies are using obliterated
20:24model. So I can't really show that part
20:27here because like, you know, science
20:28stuff, but I do run an obliterated model
20:30against all my uh against all my apps.
20:34But in terms of how would you handle
20:37like security is I would get whatever
20:40best model you have access to and then I
20:42would run slash goal and then I would
20:44say do security checks. Now the annoying
20:47part is both Claude and Codex might
20:51block you at times. Ask to like they
20:53might say like oh like cuz they they
20:55think you're trying to trick them. And
20:57the way you would handle that is you
20:59would spin up a new thread and reword
21:01your prompt differently. It is a bit of
21:04a headache, but you owe it to the people
21:06that are going to use your app if
21:07payments are involved, if sensitive user
21:09information is involved. Now there are
21:11some apps where security doesn't really
21:13matter. For example, my uh Bible app is
21:16a free app. There's no login. Everything
21:19is synced. Um like the reason why I made
21:21it is cuz I wanted to have no ads and I
21:23wanted to be super super fast, right? So
21:25there's nothing really to hack there,
21:27right? But for apps that are really
21:29really serious, like for example, um
21:31like Pluto um is a pretty serious app. I
21:34have an obliterated model running in the
21:36background always doing loops. Um I can
21:39also tell Grokbot to do security review
21:41for me. Like listen, anything you want
21:42done you can ask Grokbot to do for you.
21:45Um but like I don't do that personally
21:47because I haven't access to an
21:48obliterated model. Um yeah, I hope that
21:51sort of answers the question.
21:53>> Perfect.
21:54>> Yeah.
21:54>> All right, [snorts] let's move on to how
21:55else you're using Grokbot.
21:57>> design. And design's going to be pretty
21:58short. Um I use a tool called Paper.
22:03Paper is like Figma. I know the designer
22:05people might roast me for this. I
22:06apologize. Listen, I don't know what any
22:08of these different tools in terms of
22:10design things do. But what I love about
22:12Paper is the MCP's amazing. So Paper has
22:15this MCP. You connect it to your agent.
22:18How do you con how do I connect it to my
22:19agent, Mike? Ask your agent. I have
22:21Paper installed, connect to the MCP.
22:23That's simple.
22:24And what like the workflow that I have,
22:26and I did a whole video on this, is I
22:29actually I'll show you a live example.
22:32I have my Twitter
22:36is
22:37maybe we can get lucky. My Twitter is
22:40filled with people
22:42who are good at design. So like for
22:43example, this is like you know some
22:45beautiful design inspo.
22:47Um
22:49okay, none of the designers like okay,
22:50this is oh Quinn's about to drop
22:52something beautifully designed. So I
22:54have like a lot of design uh
22:57esque like Twitter follow like people
22:59that I follow. And then I also use
23:01something like Mobbin. It's just a
23:02resource, a reference of all beautifully
23:05designed websites. So literally what I
23:07will do is I will like take a screenshot
23:11of this right here and then I will tell
23:14my agent hey like I really like this.
23:16Can you build this on paper? And an
23:19example I can give you
23:21is
23:22I'm building a Shopify store for my
23:24brother's clothing brand. And
23:27let me see.
23:30Um
23:31yeah, so he gave me some of his designs
23:33and I said oh these are the designs. I'm
23:35like can you create a clean site and
23:37design and the design of the Pluto
23:39design system display my brother's
23:40clothing, right? So like pretty terrible
23:42prompt again. And it asked me a bunch of
23:44questions, what mood I was looking for.
23:46And it used Framer at first because I
23:48had Framer connected. Um but I didn't
23:50want it to use Framer. I wanted to use
23:52Shopify. So after a couple back and
23:53forths um it sent me a design and this
23:57is what it sent me on
23:58on paper.
23:59So I have this created and
24:02just to show you that I'm not a poser AI
24:04designer, I really use paper a lot. So
24:07like I'll copy like a website that I
24:10really like and I'll tell of my bot
24:13create a design system using this site
24:15as reference, right? So I'm not
24:17blatantly copying someone's site. I'm
24:19asking my agent to build a design system
24:22and then I'll tweak the design system.
24:24And for people who don't know what a
24:24design system is, it's basically a
24:26guidebook that a designer creates for
24:29developers. In this case, we're creating
24:30it for our agents, right? So, we're
24:32telling the agent, this is the font it
24:34needs to use, these are the colors, this
24:36is the typography, these are the
24:37different sizes we allow, this is the
24:39spacing, the shape, this is how rounded
24:42we want the squares, this is how big the
24:44buttons are, the cards are. This is
24:45actually a site, I think one of Riley's
24:47sites that I literally I loved so much
24:49that I asked it to create a design
24:50system. And then throughout like my
24:53different projects, I'll ask
24:55um I'll ask my bot to reference, right?
24:58So, in this case, I wanted a Gothic
25:00look, like a Christian Gothic look, and
25:04it created that. Let me go to this tab
25:06right here.
25:08Where was my paper? Yeah, it
25:10created that. And then guess what I told
25:12it, Greg, after that? I told it to
25:15uh build the front end. I asked it, how
25:16can I have this be a front end on
25:18Shopify? Cuz I didn't even know if you
25:20could customize front ends on Shopify. I
25:21haven't used Shopify in a very long
25:22time. Um and while I was doing that, by
25:25the way, it reminded me of Greg's pod.
25:28So, I connected my Shopify account and
25:31in literally a few minutes, went back
25:34and forth with the design
25:35and
25:37if I open this right here,
25:40>> Mm.
25:41>> has it built out?
25:42Right? So,
25:43>> our our Shopify templates dead?
25:45Like if you
25:46>> mean like cuz yeah, I remember I
25:48remember a time I had a friend who was
25:49making a lot of money customizing them.
25:52You I basically built it out on paper.
25:55Uh well, I don't I I don't even feel
25:56comfortable saying I built it out. My
25:57agent built it out on paper and I told
26:00it to I connected my Shopify account and
26:03it redesigned it, right? So, there's
26:04literally
26:06like in terms of building software, web,
26:08mobile, desktop,
26:11you can go far.
26:13You could go absolutely far.
26:15>> I wanted I want to say one quick point
26:17on
26:18the fact that you used
26:20like paper or you can use Figma or
26:22whatever you you want to use. The
26:24mistake a lot of people are making right
26:26now is they're going straight to code.
26:28So, they're prompting
26:30Grokbot or whatever to like build this
26:33thing and then once it's in code there's
26:35just a bunch of slop that's in there
26:38that like from a design perspective you
26:41can kind of you know people people call
26:43it AI smell you can kind of feel it.
26:45>> Yeah.
26:45>> What you should do
26:47is
26:49take a second before
26:51pushing something to code to actually
26:53make sure that the design system is
26:56high quality that it is going to
26:58resonate with your ICP that the like
27:01that you don't have some random features
27:03in here that you don't want and that's
27:05why
27:06for a long time that was actually like a
27:08headache but now with Paper MCP I mean
27:11it's not like you are affiliated with
27:12Paper I'm not affiliated with Paper
27:14you're not affiliated with Grokbot I'm
27:15not affiliated with Grokbot we're just
27:16using these tools cuz they're helpful in
27:18creating stuff right?
27:20>> 100% and like and and the thing is like
27:22I'm like I'm genuinely a user of all
27:24these tools and to your point you never
27:26want to go directly to output right? You
27:29want to like I'm still big believer in
27:32human in the loop when it makes sense
27:34and in terms of design my approval is
27:36100% necessary in terms of functionality
27:39how things are working my approval is
27:41definitely necessary so me being part of
27:43that feedback loop actually allows the
27:45AI to work more right? If I just told
27:47the AI agent yeah design the site on
27:50Shopify and it gave me some slop the the
27:52time I'm going to waste going back and
27:54forth is unnecessary versus I take the
27:56extra step I have a Paper account set up
27:59I'm using
28:00Paper Papers MCP with my agent it
28:03designs it and oh here's another cool
28:06feedback tool that I I I just recently
28:08discovered I can click comment on
28:11Paper I can leave a comment
28:14right? And then I could tell my agent
28:16address the comments
28:18>> Mhm.
28:18>> I could look at this I might not even be
28:19a designer and be like I don't really
28:20like how this logo looks or I don't like
28:22this font or the spacing here is weird
28:25or like this shouldn't say Toronto
28:27Ontario
28:28like I can tweak that add these comments
28:31and just tell my agent address that that
28:33is a better feedback mechanism versus me
28:36having a deployed side and then saying,
28:38well, I don't like this, I don't like
28:39this, and then I has to rebuild
28:40everything
28:41or like, you know, write rewrite code
28:42and stuff like that where I'd rather
28:44lock in the design first, be happy with
28:46it, then have it generate code.
28:50Um, another example I can share. Let me
28:52just pull this up. So
28:55um one of my apps, Bezel,
28:57just a little cool fun animation,
28:59nothing seriously, trying to explain
29:01what the app does.
29:03I got AI to build this. Now what's
29:06interesting is the way I got it to build
29:09this is I found someone who who posted a
29:12screenshot of something similar,
29:14right? And it was far back. I told AI to
29:17work on it, but I don't think it ever
29:18finished it. So I asked it, is Bezel's
29:21UI changes made? And it says it's
29:23checking, it says the PR was merged, the
29:25UI work is merged. And then I asked it,
29:27like don't confuse it. This is the
29:30Watch the prompt. The animation thingy.
29:33I forgot how it looked. I just know it
29:35had animations.
29:36And then it says, oh, that was the
29:38declarative dragging demo. So I saw this
29:40demo
29:42of like
29:43things being dragged around and how
29:44snappy things were and I saw this and I
29:47was like, oh, this is this is nice. Like
29:50I really like this. So I I I didn't even
29:53forgot that I gave it to it. So I said
29:54animation thingy. It remember and then
29:57it said want me to prototype the
29:58homepage hero one in PR. And I've told
30:02it to use CloudCode so much that now it
30:04knows. It says spinning up a CloudCode
30:05session for Dragology hero prototype and
30:08Bezel. Um, it worked on it.
30:11And then
30:12it it looked good, but then one thing I
30:14realized is it used icons and I was
30:15like, no, use the logos, right? Like
30:17these companies have logos. I said
30:19instead of icons to the left of the
30:20text, can you have logos?
30:22It worked on it.
30:23And the PR was ready. I merged it. And
30:27this is the site right now.
30:29Right?
30:30>> Fire, by the way.
30:31>> Thank you. Thank you. And like all of
30:32this was designed with paper. Like I
30:35found uh I'll even the same inspiration
30:38I found. This is the inspiration I
30:39found, family.co. Love the site. Love
30:42how cute and bubbly
30:43>> Taylor. Shout out Angie Taylor.
30:45>> Legend, right? Big fan of his work. So I
30:48got it to design system. I tweaked a
30:50couple of things and like look how nice
30:52and playful uh this site is. I'm not a
30:54designer. I use Grok Bot and paper and
30:57Cloud Code to build all this, right? So
30:59I think having the right tools and
31:02giving your agent the right feedback
31:04makes it
31:05more tasteful um versus than just
31:09producing purple gradient slop, if that
31:11makes sense.
31:13>> Cool. Yeah, let's keep going.
31:14>> Yeah, so that was design. Content
31:17ideation. Oh, this is going to be my
31:18favorite. Um so I have a YouTube Bot
31:22and the way I use my YouTube Bot is
31:25every I think it's eight it's 9:00 a.m.
31:28and then like 5 p.m.
31:30um it will scour through Twitter. And
31:32the reason why it scours through Twitter
31:34is Grok Bot basically gives you I don't
31:36want to say unlimited, but it feels like
31:38unlimited access to the X API. So you
31:41can like pull information from X however
31:43you want. And because the space that me
31:45and Greg are in are is very active on X
31:48and sometimes it's hard to keep up, I
31:50basically tell it always share with me
31:52three topics um of that you find in that
31:55that I you think I would find
31:57interesting based on the type of content
31:59I create and share with me tweets that I
32:02can make videos from. So this is
32:04today's. Let's look at it. It says
32:05Claude got bank access.
32:07Uh then
32:08Pobliano blew up Anthropic. Blew it up
32:11on Anthropic. So this is their I think
32:13their finance uh launch. Yeah, this is
32:15something I could talk about, right?
32:16This is about Claude. It's about
32:18finance. I find these two things
32:19interesting. And then it even gives me
32:21title idea. Claude just asks for your
32:23bank login. That's actually pretty good
32:25um like title. And then shares with me
32:28the type of resources I can add. And
32:30then second is Google ships agents that
32:33keep coding after you close the laptop.
32:35Anti-gravity remote agents level, right?
32:37So this is something I could talk about
32:39as well. Cloud Code was sending your
32:41email address to the web. Um so
32:43apparently there's some hacker news
32:45insider info or Cloud Code is doing
32:46something sneaky. This is probably a
32:49video that someone is recording right
32:51now as we speak. So, this is happening
32:53twice a day, every single day. Um the
32:56politics stuff happened in the states,
32:58right? Data centers are a big thing. It
33:00says data centers lost 46 of 47 votes.
33:03It knows that this is like I'm not a
33:04politics channel, but this is something
33:06that I probably would talk about, right?
33:08So, every single day 9 to 5 I am getting
33:11these ideas uh fed to me from Twitter
33:15with resources and title suggestions.
33:17Now, do I take these every single time?
33:20No. But am I keeping up to date with
33:22what's going on and do I basically have
33:24a plethora of ideas? 100% yes. Right?
33:28So,
33:29this is absolutely um one of my favorite
33:32bots, especially when it comes to the
33:34content creation one, is just ideation.
33:37Um I don't usually use AI to script um
33:40cuz I find that people
33:42you know, people prefer people. Um or
33:45maybe you can help it like organize your
33:46thoughts and stuff like that. But in
33:47terms of finding you ideas, there should
33:49be no reason why, especially if your
33:52community lives on X, it's one of the
33:54best things.
33:55Another thing I can share is my editor
33:58bot. Now, I don't fully use this just
34:01yet, meaning like no videos have went
34:03live,
34:04but man is it a good way to sort of
34:06explore
34:08the different styles I want
34:10and then I give it to my editor. Cuz I
34:12don't know editor language, Greg. You
34:14know, people say luts, this, color
34:17grading,
34:18blah blah, text, inter font, uh trans I
34:21don't know what none of that means. So,
34:23what I literally will do in my very like
34:27broken editor language English, I will
34:29tell it I want this, this feels a little
34:31too yellow, whatever, and guess what I
34:32do? I send to my editor. And my editor,
34:34very very talented, amazing,
34:36will follow those instructions, will
34:38give suggestions. So, like we're at a
34:40point where like,
34:41you know,
34:43if I didn't, like if I was starting
34:44ground zero, I would, I would use this.
34:47I, I would use AI to at least cut clips
34:50for me or add text for me, right? So,
34:52between like ideating with different
34:54styles, um using Grokbot and also like
34:58collecting your X,
35:00um it is a huge part of my content uh
35:04ideation and pipeline.
35:06>> I'll let you in on a little secret. I,
35:08I've been experimenting with using Opus
35:1055 to edit my short form. And some of
35:13those videos have gotten hundreds of
35:15thousands of views.
35:16>> Yeah, we're there. We're there. I, I
35:18believe and I'm, I'm going to start
35:19picking up short form I've been
35:20slacking. And yeah, like AI is going to
35:22be a big part of that, especially with
35:23like, I'm assuming probably had
35:25animations and stuff like that, right?
35:27>> I mean,
35:28there's no, I'm going to do, I'll
35:29probably do, you know, if people want me
35:31to do,
35:32you know, episodes on this, I'm happy to
35:33do it. But basically,
35:36my workflow was literally like, you
35:39know, I'm in the shower. I have an idea
35:41in the shower.
35:42I, you know, get back to my desk. I take
35:45my phone. I press record and I'm like,
35:47let me tell you about
35:49some topic, right?
35:51And
35:53hit record, stop,
35:55uh feed it to Claude code,
35:57you know, give it, you know, some uh
36:01framework for thinking about how to edit
36:03videos and what makes a good video. Um
36:06and basically posted it. Um and I, you
36:09know, I just wanted to see like if we
36:10were there yet and we're totally there.
36:13Um I could see a world where Grokbot
36:15does a better job
36:17at managing that relationship.
36:19>> No, 100% and that's what I use Grokbot
36:21for. Ultimately, Grokbot is an
36:23orchestrator for me. It orchestrates
36:24multiple different things. It's not
36:26solely doing the thing for me in some,
36:28in most cases. It's orchestrating the
36:30thing. For example, to your point on
36:32this video, I've been working on like
36:34animations and like animated stuff and
36:38like
36:39I remember a time where this cost me a
36:40pretty hefty penny, right? Like, like
36:44this cost money. And I think to your
36:46point, the expensive thing right now is
36:50the framework, is the knowledge in
36:53certain domain. It's the understanding
36:55of how it should be followed and what
36:57good editing looks like and like how the
36:59animation should bounce in nicely and
37:01stuff like that. But yeah, this
37:03this is possible. Like I can add a
37:05narration to this or I can be super AI
37:07pulled give a level give an 11 Labs key
37:10and it could do that for me. So yeah,
37:12content has
37:14definitely changed for me in terms of
37:15like how I use AI with it.
37:17And this is how Grokbot is. Should I
37:19jump into business and finance?
37:21>> Let's do it.
37:22>> So one important bot that I have and
37:26some people might call me weird for
37:27this, but I have
37:30and where is it? I have an advisor bot.
37:32And hopefully it doesn't show any
37:33numbers here. Yes.
37:34So my advisor bot basically stops me
37:37from making bad decisions. So I have
37:41what do [snorts] they call this?
37:43Like you know like the syndrome where
37:44you see some shiny object syndrome. I
37:46have a bad case of shiny object
37:47syndrome. I think Greg knows this where
37:49like one day I'll be all about you know
37:52the space that we're in and I don't know
37:53why the next day I have an urge to start
37:55a trucking company or I have this urge
37:57to be a real estate mogul. Like it's
37:59it's very random or like I don't know
38:01like it's just the most random thing.
38:03And so I'll give my advisor bot like
38:07I'll see this and I was like oh,
38:09what do you think of this?
38:11Honestly, I wouldn't buy this right now.
38:13It doesn't say where you are this year.
38:15It's an investment building, not a house
38:17you're saving for. And it won't it
38:19wouldn't pull it would pull cash away
38:21from your other goals, right? It's
38:22telling me how you know bad it is to buy
38:25real estate in Canada. It's saying the
38:27rents are probably logged. It it even
38:29mentioned a red flag which I noticed.
38:31The seller apparently said unrepresented
38:34buyers only,
38:35which is like super sus. Like why can't
38:38I have representation?
38:40And it even says here the boiler and the
38:42furnace are from 2009. So So about 17
38:45years old. Budget for
38:47them in the next few years. So it's
38:49basically telling me this is a bad idea,
38:52right? And I need something like this to
38:55tell me that this is a bad idea. And the
38:57reason why this bot is effective is cuz
39:02under the finance tab I have business
39:04finance, personal finance,
39:05business investor, personal investor.
39:08And these bots basically have full
39:09access to my finances. The way I do it
39:12is there's this plugin. A lot of people
39:14don't know this. If you search finance
39:17and you click on it, I won't click on it
39:18cuz it'll show my bank accounts. It
39:20usually it just uses plaid. So you can
39:22connect your accounts via plaid,
39:24give it full access to this. Your bots
39:26look at your transactions and it will
39:27literally tell you like
39:29you can't afford this or this goes
39:32against your goals or you told me you
39:34wanted to save for this or you wanted to
39:36do this, right? So for someone like me
39:38who one day wants to own a trucking
39:40company, the next day wants to own a
39:41storage unit company and the next day
39:44wants to start a AI lab, like this is a
39:47great bot for me. Between my finances
39:49bot and my advisor bot,
39:52incredible. Um
39:54the I do have like a I'm trying to get
39:57it to government contracting. I'm
39:58probably not again. This is probably one
40:00of my shiny object object syndromes
40:02kicking in, Greg.
40:03Um but I have a couple bots that
40:05basically scan for contracts that the
40:08government in Canada has available and
40:11it's telling me oh and it knows about
40:13me, right? It has access to my business
40:14side. It has access to my finance. So
40:16it's saying oh yeah, this makes sense
40:17for you. This doesn't make sense for
40:18you. You might need to hire for this,
40:20right? So
40:21like once you've given it enough context
40:23through the connections and maybe giving
40:25it some data,
40:26like these are actually great like
40:30tools to bounce ideas off of. I would
40:32scroll up, but the advisor bot pulls
40:34numbers on some of the chats. There's
40:36some things where it literally tells me
40:37it's like
40:38you need to relax and focus on the main
40:40thing,
40:41which is like absolutely great advice
40:43that I hear from humans, but for some
40:45reason when I hear a bot, it hits a
40:47little harder.
40:48So
40:49this has a big win for me in terms of
40:52business and finance. And for me, this
40:55hits incredibly home because my business
40:57and finance is tied with engineering and
40:59design, right? So, I'm not just vibe
41:01building for the sake of vibes. Some of
41:03these are actually products that people
41:05have paid me to build. Some of these are
41:06products that maybe I want to raise
41:08money for. Maybe I want to sell to
41:10people, right? Um so because these
41:12things are tied, going back to your
41:14original question, Greg, this is why I
41:16use Grokbot. Cuz with Claude Core, when
41:18I spin up a new session, it has no idea
41:20that this is where my business is at,
41:22this is how much money the business is
41:24making, this is the type of customers we
41:25have. But Grokbot will make engineering
41:27decisions with the information it has on
41:31this side of the market.
41:33And this is what makes it to me
41:34absolutely incredible.
41:37Right? Like I asked it to build me uh a
41:40site one time for for a family friend,
41:43and it was like, oh, you had a design
41:45system in paper that you used for
41:47another family member one time. Do you
41:48want to use this one as well?
41:51Absolutely incredible because I did want
41:52to do that, and I didn't have to tell
41:54that, right? So, the more I'm using it,
41:56the more it's getting to know me, like
41:58the more productive it's starting to
42:00become for me when it comes to all these
42:02parts of my life because everything is
42:04related. Even my content and my
42:06engineering is related, right? The
42:07reason why I have to build apps that
42:09people use is so I can make content
42:11about building apps that people use,
42:12right? If I stop doing that, then my
42:15content goes stale, right? So, all of
42:17this is feeding into each other, and the
42:20only way I can have it under one surface
42:22is Grokbot.
42:24>> Dude, if you if you're listening to this
42:25and you
42:27ship ideas and you don't use Grokbot,
42:32>> And again,
42:32>> what's wrong with you.
42:33>> I'm not saying use Grokbot to build it.
42:36Use Grokbot to orchestrate it so it
42:38knows what's going on. That context is
42:40super super valuable. And finally, I'll
42:42just talk about shopping. This is um
42:45I am a a fiend for compute because uh
42:49some people want to take my computer
42:51away. So I've been trying to find uh
42:54places to buy
42:56uh compute. And it will like scour
42:58through eBay where it will look for
43:00listings where people are selling uh
43:03GPUs where the boxes are sealed, right?
43:07So I'm getting like I'm getting listings
43:09every single day. And
43:11I'll actually share the crazy story. I
43:13have a PS5 Pro that I bought recently
43:15because I want to play GTA VI.
43:17Um and you know who bought my PS5 Pro
43:20and negotiated for me and checked that
43:22it was viable, uh Greg?
43:24It was my Grok bot.
43:25Grok bot emailed the person who listed
43:27it on eBay, found out that it was a
43:29store in Ontario 2 hours away, gave me
43:32the number, gave me the script to talk
43:34to the person. Obviously I didn't use
43:35the script. Called the person,
43:37confirmed, uh I gave it access, it
43:39bought it for me. And now I have a PS5
43:41ready to play GTA VI when it comes out.
43:44Um another thing that I've been using it
43:46for super random, um I'm starting to
43:49experience a little sciatica pain and I
43:51need to choose.
43:53And I asked it um I actually asked it to
43:56find me a list of shoes. And then it
43:58did. And then I asked it to email my
44:00wife because she's my designer and
44:02stylist and I'm not allowed to pick the
44:05pieces of clothing I wear because
44:06apparently I have no sense of color and
44:08and taste when it comes to clothing. And
44:11she picked a couple and it sent me the
44:13list that she's okay with,
44:15right? So like these just mundane things
44:17like I want to buy new shoes that are
44:18good for my sciatica pain. I don't want
44:22to have to go on the site and then click
44:24here and click that. So to me, going
44:27even beyond everything else, Grok bot is
44:30my interface to the internet.
44:32I don't even go on pages as much
44:34anymore. I'll tell Grok bot to do it for
44:36me unless like I visibly need to be
44:39there like something like Twitter. So
44:41this is yeah, this is pretty much a
44:42rundown of how I spend
44:45probably the most time on on any given
44:48app um being productive, building stuff
44:51and and doing stuff, Greg.
44:53>> Dude, this has been insane.
44:55>> I know what I'm doing today. Uh,
44:58I'm I'm I'm literally just
45:00screenshotting or I'm sending this video
45:02to my Grokbot and being like I want
45:05>> That's the awesome part that you can
45:06give the video to your Grokbot. It'll
45:09pull the transcription and it'll do the
45:11stuff for you, right? It It It's
45:13incredible.
45:14>> So, thank you so much for coming on,
45:16sharing the sauce.
45:17I'll include links where you can follow
45:20Etsy's not on the internet, Ross Mike,
45:22uh,
45:23where you can follow him. You definitely
45:25should.
45:26Um, anything you want to leave people
45:28with?
45:29>> Yeah, um, one last thing I'll say is I I
45:32please think big. Like please just like
45:35now is like the time to actually try
45:37stuff. You know, before two, three years
45:39before you heard the motivational
45:41speeches, you got to be the the
45:43Screw all that. Like it's actually
45:45possible now. Like I we did a video not
45:48too long ago talking about uh, audio
45:50like in and hardware.
45:52Greg, I'm doing it.
45:54Look at look at like mind you forget the
45:56cream cheese sandwich, but I'm doing it.
45:59Like there's a Raspberry Pi, there's
46:00speakers there. I am not a hardware guy,
46:03right? But like I'm actually building
46:05something that works and I I I I don't
46:09know what I'm doing, but I'm literally
46:10going back and forth with AI asking, how
46:12do I do this? How do I connect this? Oh,
46:14I need this chip. I need this memory
46:16card. I need this peripheral and I am
46:18putting it together and not only am I
46:20having the time of my life, but like I
46:22now have the ability to like the ideas
46:25that used to be stuck here, I have no
46:27excuse to bring them out now. So, my
46:29message to everyone is just just try,
46:31man. Like like just just actually just
46:34ask the agent and just try like
46:37this is by far I know there's a lot of
46:39doomerism, but the fact that you have
46:41intelligence for $200 a month
46:43is absolutely incredible. You owe it to
46:45yourself and your generations. That's
46:47all I got to say.
46:48>> and it's easy to fall for the doomerism
46:50because there's so much negativity on
46:52the internet.
46:53>> Yeah.
46:53>> Uh,
46:54and I think it the important thing is
46:56just
46:57a part of it is sort of like a mental
46:58battle of being like, you know what? I
47:00believe when Mickey says that this is
47:03the time and he shows me like, you know,
47:05all the things I can do. I I I believe
47:07that I could create something that
47:09people could want. And even though
47:11people
47:13say SaaS is dead or software is dead or
47:16this person just got lucky, you know,
47:18for for hitting it big on this app and
47:20it can never be me,
47:22you know, you got to It's like that
47:23image of the horse with blinders on
47:25running a race. You got to just put the
47:27blinders on
47:29and
47:30and get get to work.
47:32>> I mean, listen, at the end of the day,
47:33whatever you say will be true, right?
47:34There was a quite a bit of time like I
47:37mean, Greg, you remember when you first
47:38had me on the chat, I had like 8K subs,
47:40right? Like I was working a corporate
47:42job. Like I was like it was it was
47:44stuff was pretty tight, but I just I had
47:46this very delusional belief that like,
47:49yeah, I'm going to make something
47:50happen. And I didn't even think it was
47:52YouTube. I was really doing YouTube for
47:54fun. And I remember when Greg DM me, I
47:56thought I was being scammed. I thought
47:57it was like a bot. Like I didn't respond
47:59right away if you look at the time
48:00difference cuz I had to confirm whether
48:02it was him or not or whether I was being
48:03fished. So like like like and that was
48:06then and like this is now and it's like
48:09yes, there's a lot of craziness
48:10happening, but like I think if you focus
48:12on you and your house and you do what's
48:14best for you and yours and you implement
48:17the stuff that's available and you just
48:18try cuz even if it doesn't work out, you
48:20at least try and for that you're a
48:22legend. So please try at least before
48:25the subsidies end.
48:26>> [laughter]
48:27>> I'll catch you next time, my man.
48:29>> Have a good one, everybody. Thank you so
48:30much, Greg, for having me on.

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