USA - Clinton videotape of testimony released — Transcript

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1. 0:00I think what they were trying to do to
2. 0:01her and all these other people who knew
3. 0:04nothing about sexual harassment was
4. 0:06outrageous just so they could hurt me
5. 0:09politically so I just don't have the
6. 0:12same attitude about this you well you're
7. 0:14not telling our grand jurors that did
8. 0:15you think the case was a political case
9. 0:18or a setup Mr President that that would
10. 0:20give you the right to commit perjury sir
11. 0:24sir in the face of their the Jones
12. 0:26lawyers the people that were questioning
13. 0:28me in the face of their their illegal
14. 0:31leaks their constant unrelenting illegal
15. 0:34leaks in a lawsuit that I knew and that
16. 0:37by the time this deposition and this
17. 0:39discovery started they
18. 0:41knew was a bogus suit on the law and a
19. 0:44bogus suit on the
20. 0:46facts the question in the face of that I
21. 0:49knew that in the face of their illegal
22. 0:51activity I still had to behave lawfully
23. 0:54but I wanted to be legal without being
24. 0:57particularly
25. 0:58helpful I thought that was that was what
26. 1:01I was trying to do and this is the
27. 1:03you're the first person who ever
28. 1:05suggested to me that that I should have
29. 1:08been doing their lawyer's work for them
30. 1:11when they were perfectly free to ask
31. 1:13follow-up questions on one or two
32. 1:14occasions Mr Bennett invited them to ask
33. 1:18follow-up
34. 1:19questions it now appears to me they
35. 1:21didn't because they were afraid I would
36. 1:23give them a truthful answer and that
37. 1:25there had been some communication
38. 1:26between you and Miss trip and them and
39. 1:28they were trying to set me up up and
40. 1:30tricked me and now you seem to be
41. 1:32complaining that they didn't do a good
42. 1:34enough job I did my best sir at this
43. 1:38time I did not know what I now know
44. 1:40about this a lot of other things were
45. 1:43going on in my life did I want this to
46. 1:46come out no was I embarrassed about it
47. 1:48yes did I ask her to lie about it no did
48. 1:52I believe there could be a truthful
49. 1:53affidavit absolutely now that's all I
50. 1:56know to say about this I will continue
51. 1:58to answer your questions as best I
52. 2:04can what I meant was and what they can
53. 2:07infer that I metant was that I did
54. 2:10things that were when I was alone with
55. 2:13her that were inappropriate and
56. 2:16wrong but that they did not
57. 2:19include any activity that I that was
58. 2:23within the definition of sexual
59. 2:25relations that I was given by judge
60. 2:28Wright in the
61. 2:31deposition I I said that I did not do
62. 2:34those things that were in that within
63. 2:36that definition and I testified
64. 2:37truthfully to
65. 2:38that and that's all I can say about it
66. 2:42now you know if there's any doubt on the
67. 2:44part of the grand jurors about whether I
68. 2:46believe some kind of activity Falls
69. 2:48within that definition or outside that
70. 2:50definition I'd be happy to try to answer
71. 2:52that well I have a question regarding
72. 2:54your definition then and my question is
73. 2:57is oral sex performed on you
74. 3:00you uh
75. 3:02within that definition as you understood
76. 3:06it as I understood it it was not
77. 3:10no restate the question the question is
78. 3:12if you told John podesta two days after
79. 3:15the story broke something to this effect
80. 3:18that you didn't have any kind of sex in
81. 3:20any way shape or form including oral sex
82. 3:22with Miss Lewinsky were you telling him
83. 3:24the
84. 3:25truth and let me say again with respect
85. 3:30this is an indirect way to try to get me
86. 3:33to testify to questions that have no
87. 3:35bearing on whether I committed
88. 3:37perjury you apparently agree that it has
89. 3:40no bearing whether I committ president
90. 3:43I'm sorry with respect I don't agree
91. 3:45with that I'm not going to argue with
92. 3:46you about it I just am going to ask you
93. 3:49again in fact direct you to answer the
94. 3:51question I'm not going to answer that
95. 3:53question because I believe it's a
96. 3:54question about conduct that whatever the
97. 3:56answer to it is would does not bear on
98. 3:59the perjury because oral sex performed
99. 4:01on the opponent under this definition is
100. 4:04not sexual relations it is not covered
101. 4:07by this I'm not declining to tell you
102. 4:09anything he said to John
103. 4:12P the
104. 4:14um you denied the the witness is not
105. 4:18declining to tell me anything did you
106. 4:20deny oral sex in any way shape or form
107. 4:25to uh to John
108. 4:27podesta I Told You So before and I will
109. 4:30say
110. 4:31again in the aftermath of this story
111. 4:36breaking and what was told about
112. 4:41it uh the the next two days next three
113. 4:44days are just a blur to me I don't
114. 4:47remember to whom I talked when I talked
115. 4:50to them or what I said so you're not
116. 4:52declining to answer you just don't
117. 4:53remember I honestly don't remember no
118. 4:55and I'm I'm I'm not saying that anybody
119. 4:57who had a contrary memory is wrong I do
120. 4:59not remember remember