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0:02it's the story of how God was seeking a
0:06bride for his son each book is different
0:09from every other book I'm trying to give
0:11you the keys for you to unlock it for
0:15[Music]
0:26yourself I'd like to give you a little
0:27bit of a philosophy lesson
0:30everybody has a philosophy it's your way
0:33of thinking about
0:34things the word means simply to love
0:37wisdom uh or to seek the answers to Big
0:40questions and all of us have a
0:42philosophy but the trouble is in our
0:44modern world there are so many different
0:46philosophies being thrown at us through
0:48the mass media and in so many different
0:51ways that we get into confusion if you
0:54accept Genesis 1 Then There are a whole
0:57lot of modern philosophies that are
0:59rulle rulled out by the very first page
1:02of the Bible I've just made a list of
1:04some of them I cringe when I hear a word
1:07ending in ISM ISM there are only two
1:12isms I'm happy with baptism and
1:14evangelism but apart from that all the
1:17other isms usually are philosophies of a
1:20false kind for example if you believe
1:23Genesis one atheism is out atheism
1:27believes there is no God I'm an atheist
1:30thank God said
1:31someone um
1:34agnosticism agnosticism is ruled out
1:37agnosticism says I don't know whether
1:39there's a God or not well Genesis 1 says
1:41there is so you can't believe Genesis 1
1:44being agnostic animism which is the
1:47belief in many spirits controlling our
1:50world spirits of rivers spirits of
1:52mountains there's still a lot of animism
1:54in the world that's ruled out polytheism
1:57that's the belief that there are many
1:59gods Genesis 1 rules that out dualism
2:02believes there are two Gods one good and
2:04one bad and the good God is responsible
2:07for the good things that happen and the
2:09bad God for the bad things well that's
2:11not the biblical philosophy either
2:14monotheism believes there is only one
2:17God one person Judaism believes that
2:20Islam believes that but uh Genesis rules
2:24that out by using the plural word
2:27Elohim deism beli beles that God is the
2:31creator but he cannot now control what
2:34he's created he's made something like a
2:36watch wounded up and now it runs on its
2:39own laws so Miracle becomes impossible
2:41deism is very common even in church do
2:45you believe God can change the weather
2:47if you don't believe that you're a deest
2:49you may believe that he created the
2:51universe but he can't control it theism
2:55believes that God not only created the
2:57world but is also in control control of
3:00everything and everyone is made and
3:02theism is one step toward the biblical
3:07philosophy existentialism believes
3:09experiences God our choices our
3:13affirmation of our self that is religion
3:16humanism believes that man is God
3:19rationalism believes reason is God
3:22materialism believes that only matter is
3:24real mysticism believes that only spirit
3:27is real monism is a rather funny one but
3:31it's very common today and that is that
3:32matter and spirit are essentially one
3:35and the same thing pantheism believes
3:39everything is God a modern version of it
3:42is called
3:43panentheism God is in everything well
3:47now all those are ruled out by Genesis 1
3:50if you want an ism that sums up the
3:52Bible philosophy it is triun
3:57theism three in one Creator and
4:00controller of the universe that's the
4:03biblical way of thinking it comes right
4:06out in Genesis 1 and it stays right
4:08through to the last chapter of
4:10Revelation well now let's move on from
4:13these
4:14rather intellectual subjects to look at
4:18Genesis 1 itself and the first thing
4:21that strikes us is the style of Genesis
4:241 it is not written in scientific
4:28language Hallelujah for that otherwise
4:32even in our scientific age very few
4:35could understand it I picked this up
4:38somewhere you won't be able to see it at
4:40the back but it'll be on the video and
4:42God said let oh what an equation
4:46mathematical equation comes so God said
4:49all that and there was
4:51light because that's the scientific
4:54formula for light aren't you glad that
4:56Genesis 1 wasn't written in scientific
4:59language anguage or none of us would
5:01understand it or very few of us anyway
5:04it is written in simplistic
5:08language for example there are only
5:11three kinds of vegetation in Genesis 1
5:14grass plants and trees it's a very
5:19simple categorization of vegetation
5:22isn't it everybody knows grass plants
5:25and trees there are only three kinds of
5:28animal mentioned in Genesis 1
5:31domesticated animals animals that we
5:34hunt for food and wild animals now these
5:38simple
5:40classifications are understood by
5:42everybody everywhere three different
5:45size plants three different kinds of
5:48animals depending on their relationship
5:50to us this is what we mean by
5:53simplistic there are only
5:5676 separate root words in the the whole
5:59of Genesis 1 that's remarkably
6:03few furthermore every one of those words
6:06is to be found in every language on
6:08Earth so that Genesis 1 is the easiest
6:11chapter to translate of the whole
6:14Bible it takes a genius to be that
6:19simple you see God like every writer has
6:23to ask who's going to read what I write
6:26you've got to angle your writing towards
6:29your potential
6:31reader and there's such a thing as a fog
6:34index for writers which I test my
6:37writing on and you take so many
6:39sentences you count the number of multi-
6:42syllable words and how many sentences
6:44you put them in a mathematical formula
6:46and then it comes out and you know
6:48exactly who will be able to read what
6:50you write whether it's Readers Digest
6:52readers or scientific thesis readers and
6:55it's a good way of checking now God
6:57wanted the story of creation to reach
7:00everybody in every time and in every
7:03place so he made it utterly utterly
7:08simple and the result is that a child
7:10can read Genesis 1 and get the message
7:13and it can be translated into any
7:15language it takes genius to be that
7:18simple Einstein was asked to explain his
7:21theory of the relativity of time and he
7:25said one minute sitting on a hot stove
7:28seems much longer than 1 hour talking to
7:31a pretty
7:33girl now it takes genius to be that
7:37simple and everybody now understands the
7:40theory of the relativity of time God
7:42wanted to be that simple so he didn't
7:45write a scientific account of creation
7:47he wrote a simplistic
7:49one God is the
7:53subject along with the word and the
7:55spirit there's a trinity coming in
7:57already especially when later it says
8:00let us make men the verbs are very
8:03simple and I want to point out the
8:04difference between created and made the
8:07the Hebrew word created barah means to
8:09make something out of nothing and it
8:12only occurs three times in the whole of
8:14Genesis one for matter life and
8:19man only at those three points was God
8:22creating something absolutely new in
8:26between he uses the word made which
8:28means to make something out of something
8:30else now we can make things we can
8:34manufacture things but we can't
8:37create and that's a very important point
8:40in Genesis 1 there are three points at
8:42which God does something totally new out
8:44of nothing matter life and Men we might
8:49say today matter DNA and
8:52Men the objects the Days 1 to 7 again
8:55utterly
8:57simple each sentence is so so simple it
8:59has a subject a verb and an object the
9:04grammar is is so simple and
9:07straightforward that again anybody can
9:09understand it it's a remarkable
9:13production the structure of Genesis 1 is
9:16beautifully put together it is so
9:18orderly spread over six days but the six
9:22days are divided into three and three
9:25you may never have noticed this but
9:27clearly there are two lots of three days
9:30at the beginning of it all it says the
9:32Earth was
9:33uninhabitable and
9:35uninhabited it was without form and void
9:39or
9:40empty and God takes three days to form
9:44it and three days to inhabit
9:47it in the first three days he creates an
9:51environment but in the second three days
9:53he's creating individual things or
9:56creatures that inhabit that environment
9:59so he does it in order he prepares the
10:01environment first and then he puts
10:03creatures into the environment and
10:05there's an amazing
10:07correspondence between the first three
10:09days and the last three days the first
10:12three days he creates a varied
10:15environment by contrast contrast between
10:18light from Darkness sky from Ocean and
10:21land from sea he's creating
10:24distinctions which makes for variety
10:27having created that
10:29on the third day he put plants in but
10:33now he creates the inhabitants now the
10:36sun and moon in that sense are the
10:38inhabitants of light I'll come back to
10:40that later there's a very important
10:41Point here but light from Darkness was
10:45General now we have specifics the sun
10:48moon and stars inhabiting that light and
10:51that
10:52Darkness the sky from the ocean fills
10:56them with birds and
10:57fish and and on the sixth day on the dry
11:01land the animals and human beings appear
11:04how many of you had ever noticed that
11:07parallel between the first three days
11:08and the second three days could I
11:10see just a few of you isn't it a
11:13remarkable order it's beautifully done
11:16God is doing things in such an orderly
11:19and precise manner he's actually
11:21bringing order out of chaos which he
11:23loves to do now I told you in the last
11:27talk that Genesis 1 is method matical
11:30the three figures that keep coming
11:33through the account even in the English
11:36are three seven and
11:3810 three is what God is seven is the
11:42perfect number right through scripture
11:44and 10 is always a completeness now when
11:46you look at the three sevens and T it's
11:49remarkable at only three points does God
11:53actually create
11:55something three times he calls something
11:58by name
11:59three times he makes something three
12:02times He blesses something all the way
12:05through even in English you'll find
12:07everything is in
12:08threes the verbs are in
12:11threes next
12:13sevens seven times it says and God saw
12:16that it was good seven times there are
12:19seven days that's obvious the first
12:22sentence is seven words in the Hebrew
12:25the last three sentences in this account
12:29creation are all sentences of seven
12:31words not in the English I'm afraid but
12:34you'll have to take my word for it about
12:36the Hebrew now in all this it's in
12:39marked contrast to for example the
12:41Babylonian epic of creation which is so
12:44complicated and so weird that when you
12:48compare it with the Simplicity of God's
12:50word you will have no doubt which Rings
12:54true well now I must plunge I'm afraid
12:58at this point into the
13:02problem but before I do so let's just
13:05underline this point that Genesis 1 is
13:08simplistic I think I can do it most
13:11easily by imagining a children's book
13:15describing how a house is
13:17built and if you want to write a
13:20children's book you would have to give a
13:23simplified summary you would say first
13:25came the brick layer who laid the bricks
13:28then the the carpenter came to put the
13:30window frames and door frames and roof
13:33joist on then the plumber came to put
13:36the pipes in the water and the waste the
13:39electrician came then to put the wires
13:42in then the plasterer did the walls The
13:44Decorator painted them and finally they
13:46all went on holiday so that explaining
13:50it simply to Children you would probably
13:53explain seven stages do you follow me
13:56but that is simplistic and as someone
13:59who's involved in designing churches and
14:03getting them built I know that life is
14:05not that simple you have to have what's
14:08called a critical path
14:10analysis and you work out when the brick
14:13layer has to come and when the carpenter
14:15has to come and he may have to come
14:16twice and when the plumet it's it's a
14:18very complicated business getting a
14:20building
14:21up but the only people who need to know
14:23that are the
14:25builders this is good enough and this is
14:28is what you would do if you were telling
14:30the story to anybody in any time and
14:32place do you follow me there's no doubt
14:35that Genesis is a
14:37simplification and that science can fill
14:40out a whole more lot more details for us
14:43but God wanted everybody to understand
14:46that he did it that he did it in an
14:48orderly way that he knew what he was
14:51doing but as soon as you talk like that
14:55then this bogey of science versus script
14:58scripture comes up and uh the tension is
15:02there there is a tension in many
15:05scientists over anything Supernatural
15:08that is because science can only study
15:11the natural world can't study the
15:13supernatural so that the Supernatural is
15:16something science doesn't really have
15:18any contact with and and finds difficult
15:21to think about but there are specific
15:24questions of science that come up in
15:27relation to the Genesis 1 account of
15:29creation and I feel I must just mention
15:32them some of course of the difficulties
15:35that people have are
15:37flippant did Adam have a naval I've been
15:41asked profound isn't it
15:45or can snakes talk or where did Cain get
15:50his wife Lord SOA was asked that at H
15:54Park Corner once and he just said to his
15:56questioner why are you so interested in
15:58other people people's
16:00wives uh there are in fact three
16:03possible answers but I'm not going to
16:04give them to
16:05you one of the latest I read in the
16:08national press was did Noah take
16:11woodworm into the
16:14ark or technically two
16:17woodworms or one common one I get asked
16:20today is why are dinosaurs never
16:23mentioned since we've become so fond of
16:25them but these frankly are flippant
16:28there are much more serious issues that
16:31we have to face the speed of
16:34creation geologists tell us it was 4 and
16:37a quar billion years Genesis seems to
16:40say it was six days there's a little bit
16:42of a gap there to be
16:44closed similarly the age of the Earth
16:47the order of creation actually the
16:49remarkable thing is that science
16:52agrees with the order of Genesis 1 with
16:56one exception and I think that can be
16:58explained the exception is that sun moon
17:01and stars don't appear till the fourth
17:03day after the plants are on Earth but in
17:06fact we now know that the original Earth
17:09was covered with a thick
17:13Cloud uh a Mist in fact Genesis 2 says a
17:16Mist covered the whole earth science
17:18knows that's true now so that when the
17:20first light
17:22appeared then it would just be generally
17:24seen as lighter
17:27Cloud whereas when the plants came and
17:30started turning carbon dioxide into
17:32oxygen that cleared the mist and for the
17:36first time the sun moon and stars
17:38appeared in the
17:40heavens now given that that actually the
17:43appearance of sun moon and stars after
17:45the plants was due to clearing that
17:48thick Cloud that surrounded the Earth
17:50then science agrees exactly with the
17:54order of Genesis 1 that uh creatures
17:58appeared in the sea before on the land
18:00that man appeared last there's an
18:02astonishing correspondence on that one
18:05so order is not now a major problem but
18:08the origin of animals and humans is this
18:11whole question of Evolution versus
18:13creation and there are other things like
18:15the age of the people who lived before
18:17the flood methusa
18:19969 that's the oldest men and then the
18:23extent of the flood itself the tragedy
18:26is that to the modern in mind these
18:30problems come first in relation to
18:33Genesis that's why I didn't take them
18:36earlier than now because I believe we've
18:38got to get the message of Genesis first
18:41of all then tackle the problems later if
18:44you just discuss the problems in Genesis
18:47you will miss the very important
18:49messages that it has to give us but
18:52nevertheless we mustn't Overlook the
18:55disagreements I want to begin by saying
18:57there are three ways of handling this
19:00problem of science versus scripture it's
19:03very important which way you're going to
19:05do it the three ways are to repudiate to
19:09segregate or to integrate I'll tell you
19:12straight away I believe the third is the
19:14right one the first is taken by naive
19:17Christians who say you've got to choose
19:21you either choose that scripture is
19:23right or that science is right but you
19:25must repudiate one or the other you
19:28can't accept both and that makes it a
19:31very simple Choice the result is that
19:33unbelievers choose science and Believers
19:35choose scripture and both bury their
19:38heads in the sand that is not the answer
19:41to this problem partly because science
19:44has been right in so
19:47much we owe these video cameras to
19:49science and these
19:51spotlights came in a car here we've been
19:55on a redh hot telephone line gimini all
19:57this week all these things came from
20:00science so just to say science is wrong
20:04is probably the most foolish line to
20:06take in our modern world but it's
20:08equally silly to say they're always
20:11right but this way of repudiation is not
20:14the answer to say one is right and the
20:15other is wrong and face people with a
20:17choice it leads to dishonesty it leads
20:20people to feel that they must commit
20:22intellectual suicide in order to believe
20:24the Bible and that is a mistake the
20:28second
20:29way is to keep signs and scripture as
20:32far apart as
20:34possible and to say that science is
20:37concerned with one kind of Truth and
20:39scripture with another that science is
20:42concerned with physical truth material
20:44truth natural truth whereas scripture is
20:48concerned with moral truth and
20:50Supernatural truth and therefore they
20:53deal with entirely separate issues that
20:55science tells us how and when
20:58the world came to be whereas scripture
21:01simply tells us who and why and they are
21:04to be kept entirely separate segregate
21:06them as far away as possible then they
21:10can live together it's a rather strange
21:12approach to try and put it in its modern
21:15dress science talks about
21:19facts whereas scripture is supposed to
21:21talk about
21:23values and therefore we don't look into
21:26the Bible for facts we look into the
21:28Bible for
21:30values that's a very very common way of
21:33talking today even by preachers in
21:36churches but it's the wrong solution it
21:39fits our Greek thinking and most of us
21:41think like Greeks unfortunately and we
21:44keep this physical and the spiritual in
21:46two watertight compartments the sacred
21:49and the secular the temporal and the
21:50Eternal that kind of thinking is totally
21:53alien to the Hebrew mind which saw God
21:56as Creator and Redeemer so that the
21:58physical and the spiritual belong
22:01together so I don't think this is the
22:03answer either it involves
22:05treating Genesis as
22:08myth Genesis 3 becomes a fable entitled
22:13how the snake lost its
22:16legs and Adam becomes every man instead
22:20of one man I'm sure you've heard this
22:22kind of thing so that these are
22:26fictional stories teaching us values
22:30about God and about
22:32ourselves teaching us how to think about
22:34God and about ourselves but we mustn't
22:36press them into historical
22:40fact now if you start on that track and
22:44treat Adam and Eve as myth as a story
22:48with a moral truth in it but not
22:51historical truth then where do you
22:55stop as you read through the Bible at
22:58first people said Adam and Eve were
23:00myths then they moved on a bit and said
23:02Noah was a myth the flood story has
23:05truth in it but moral truth not
23:07historical then they moved on and said
23:09Abraham Isaac and Jacob were
23:11myths then they moved on and said Moses
23:14was a myth and if you saw a recent TV
23:17series on the exodus by a man called
23:19Roma you know that he was treating it as
23:22myth a nice story with a good moral in
23:25it but not historically true and then
23:28they moved on until now there are
23:30theologians who treat the resurrection
23:33and the Virgin birth of Jesus as
23:36myth stories with the truth in
23:39them that's my problem with this
23:41approach where do you stop
23:44ultimately there's no history left in
23:46the Bible there are only values no facts
23:49of course it makes it possible then to
23:51put the Bible alongside the Quran and
23:54alongside the holy vas and other
23:56scriptures which are
23:58values but I believe it's destroyed the
24:01Bible God is the god of history history
24:03is his story and we are reading facts
24:05furthermore as I said earlier Jesus
24:08accepted Genesis as
24:11factual therefore this is not the answer
24:13to the problem but it's probably the
24:15most common way that Christians have
24:18tried to get over the
24:20problem both scripture and science are
24:23in fact overlapping circles and they are
24:27dealing with some things that are the
24:29same and therefore there are apparent
24:32contradictions between them which we
24:34must look at how then are we going to
24:37resolve how can we bring them together
24:40well we need to remember two basic
24:43things very important and the first
24:45thing is the transitional investigations
24:49of Science and I mean by that that
24:52science
24:54changes it's always in
24:56transition and things that were regarded
24:59as scientific fact years ago are now no
25:02longer regarded as scientific fact
25:06science changes its views for example it
25:10used to believe that the atom was the
25:12smallest thing in the universe now we
25:15know that each atom is a whole universe
25:17in
25:18itself it was said until very recently
25:21that the X and Y chromosomes decided
25:24whether a fetus became a male or a
25:26female human being
25:28I gather now that's been thrown out of
25:30the window and it's something else
25:32entirely different you really have to
25:35keep changing your mind to catch up the
25:38whole discovery of DNA has
25:41revolutionized our thinking about life
25:44because we now know that the earliest
25:47form of life had the most complicated
25:49DNA in it and that mathematically DNA is
25:53a
25:55language it is not a chance combination
25:58it is a language passing on a message
26:00from one generation to another therefore
26:03DNA must have a person behind
26:06it that's changing a lot of people's
26:08thinking so science changes it is in a
26:12state of
26:13transition geology is changing I read an
26:16article by the science correspondent of
26:19the times he said there are now seven
26:21different ways of finding out the age of
26:23the Earth carbon 14 radiogenic helium
26:26magnetic field Decay and oceanic nickel
26:29etc etc and he gave a list of the dates
26:33that these new methods have revealed and
26:36interestingly
26:37enough the shortest is 9,000 years and
26:40the longest is
26:41175,000 years not four and a quar
26:45billion well who's right I don't know I
26:48think we wait until the scientists make
26:50up their mind on many real issues
26:54anthropology is now in a state of
26:57disorder
26:58what we thought were prehistoric men our
27:01ancestors are no longer regarded as our
27:04ancestors but creatures that came and
27:06went and
27:08disappeared biology again has changed
27:11very few believe in darwinian evolution
27:14today so that's the first point I want
27:16to make that science does change its
27:18opinion and to tie the Bible to any
27:21particular age of science would mean
27:24that in the Next Generation the Bible
27:25would be thrown away as well the second
27:28thing I want to say is equally important
27:31traditional interpretations of scripture
27:34can also
27:37change the Bible is inspired but our
27:40interpretation of it may not be I think
27:43we need to draw a very clear distinction
27:46between the Bible text and how we
27:49interpret it for example when the Bible
27:52talks about the four corners of the
27:54earth who interprets that to mean that
27:57the Earth is a cube or a
28:00square see the Bible
28:03uses what we call uh the language of
28:06appearance it talks about the sun rising
28:09in the East and setting in the west and
28:11running around the
28:12sky who takes that to mean that the sun
28:15is moving around the earth well they
28:17used to but it was a wrong
28:19interpretation it's usually using simply
28:22the language of appearance so that we
28:25need to think again about our
28:27interpretation of the Bible so that we
28:31become a little more flexible I believe
28:32in this way when science is realized to
28:36be transitional and our interpretation
28:38of scriptures seem to be traditional
28:41then we'll begin to be willing to
28:44rethink I thought I'd illustrate this by
28:47looking at the days in Genesis
28:501 and I found that there are at
28:55least five different ways of
28:58interpreting the word day in scripture
29:02and I'm going to go through all five and
29:04leave you to take a pick how about
29:07that there is as I've said a slight
29:09discrepancy between six days and 4 and a
29:12quter billion years and we need to close
29:15the gap in some way so how are we going
29:18to take the word day in Genesis 1 it's a
29:21Hebrew word yum which sometimes means a
29:24day of 24 hours it can also mean a an
29:28era as in the day of the horse and cart
29:31is over I don't mean a 24-hour day I
29:34mean the day of the horse and cart is
29:37over but there are five different ways
29:39of interpretation the first is to take
29:42the word day literally as an Earth Day
29:47of 24
29:48hours your problem then is to find more
29:53time
29:55somewhere and you will find various
29:57commentaries find more time in one of
30:00three ways the first is by finding a gap
30:05between verse one and verse two or
30:08rather verse two and verse three in
30:11other words the Earth it said became
30:15without form and void over a very long
30:17period and the six days are God putting
30:20it right
30:21again that's a very common theory you'll
30:24find it in the scoffield Bible you'll
30:25find it in a number of Bible notes that
30:28in fact the six days were the
30:32Reconstruction of a world that had gone
30:34into chaos over a long period very
30:36common
30:37theory a second way of finding more time
30:41is to find it all in the flood there
30:43have been various books notably
30:45connected with the names whitcom and
30:47Morris that have said that the
30:50geological data that we have all come
30:53out of the flood not very easy to
30:56maintain that most intriguing way of
30:58finding time is this that God created
31:01genuine antiques begins with the theory
31:05how old was God when he was made was
31:08Adam when he was made by
31:09God wasn't a
31:11baby so was he 30 years old when he was
31:14made by God in which case anybody
31:17meeting him would have said you're 30
31:18years old they'd have been wrong he
31:20would have been only half an hour old do
31:21you follow the theory that God can
31:24create genuine Antiques and that he can
31:26make a tree that looks like 200 years
31:28old and has all the Rings in it it's a
31:31possible Theory God could do that but
31:33all these are ways of trying to take the
31:36day literally and find more time
31:38somewhere follow me and you're welcome
31:41to take any of those interpretations
31:44then there are those who take a day as
31:46meaning a geological
31:49era that it's a long time it's an age
31:53day well that's quite a common theory
31:55there therefore we're talking not about
31:57six days but about six geological
32:01ages the third is the mythological which
32:04I've already mentioned that treats the
32:06six days as pure myth it's only the
32:08poetic framework of the story and the
32:11main thing is to get the moral out of
32:13the story and forget the framework
32:15that's part of the myth that means it's
32:18a fabled day one of the most intriguing
32:21was by professor wisan of London
32:24University he believed the days were Ed
32:27educational meaning that God revealed
32:30his Creation in stages to Moses and on
32:34the first day of a week in moses' life
32:37God said this is what I did and then the
32:39next day he told him a bit more and the
32:41next day a bit more and a bit more so
32:44these were school days of
32:47Moses hope you're still with me and
32:50there are two forms of that theory one
32:52is that God revealed creation verbally
32:54in words but another intriguing is that
32:56he
32:57revealed it visually as he did the Book
33:00of Revelation to John by giving Moses a
33:02kind of picture show and Moses saw uh
33:07the light separate from the darkness
33:09then the screen went black and then
33:11Moses saw another picture of the
33:15moisture being separated from the Seas
33:17and next picture he saw plants and then
33:19animals and birds and so on that it was
33:21a kind of picture show which you wrote
33:23down but both of those theories whether
33:25in word or picture
33:27assume that the days belong to Moses
33:29School timetable as it were and the
33:33final
33:34interpretation is that these were God
33:37days time is relative to God as well as
33:41to us that a thousand days are like a
33:43day to God and a day like a thousand
33:46years therefore God was saying to me the
33:50whole of creation was all in a week's
33:53work that's what it was to me and the
33:57point of saying that would be that if
34:00you take geological time human life
34:04loses all
34:06significance for example go back to
34:08Cleopatra's Needle if you let
34:10Cleopatra's Needle represent the age of
34:14our
34:15planet and put a 10p piece flat on top
34:20of the
34:21needle that's the age of the human race
34:24and if you put a postage stamp on top of
34:27that its thickness represents civilized
34:31men do you realize we lose all
34:35significance in that who are we and God
34:39I believe wanted us to think of creation
34:42as a week's work because he wanted to
34:45get down to the important bit that's us
34:48on planet Earth well that's the theory
34:52the seventh day note the length of the
34:54seventh day because that has lasted
34:56centuries it lasted all the way through
34:58the Old Testament God's seventh day rest
35:02lasted until Easter Sunday when he
35:04raised his son from the dead all through
35:07the Old Testament there is nothing new
35:09created God had finished creation the
35:12word new hardly occurs in the Old
35:14Testament once yes I can think of once
35:17as a verse in Ecclesiastes behold there
35:19is nothing new Under the
35:22Sun so God rested all through the Old
35:25Testament that was a pretty long long
35:27day well there are five different
35:30ways I think you probably guessed which
35:33I'm going for but uh I'm not going to
35:35press that these are
35:39interpretations God clearly wanted us to
35:42think of his work as a week's work
35:46that's the message I'm content with that
35:49message I personally believe we're
35:51talking about God days he's giving us
35:54his angle on it that was just a week's
35:56work to him to him it's only been a
35:59couple of days since Jesus
36:01died
36:03God time is real to God but it's
36:06relative to God as well and we need to
36:09remember that well I've taken just one
36:12example there I'm leaving the big
36:13question of evolution till the next talk
36:16because that's a biggie especially if
36:18man is included in it what I've tried to
36:20do here is to show you that we
36:23interpreters of the Bible need to be a
36:26little more flexible
36:27sometimes and say we may not have
36:28understood it
36:30right and I believe scientists need to
36:33be a bit more humble but many of them
36:35are becoming more humble as they
36:37discover the random principle in nature
36:41that everything isn't neatly tied up in
36:43laws of cause and effect and science is
36:45becoming much more flexible so that
36:48recently there was an article in my
36:49morning
36:50newspaper entitled is science about to
36:54prove the existence of God
36:57an amazing title to read a 100 years ago
36:59you would have read
37:01disprove but now there's been a swing
37:04round to a universe that is more open to
37:07personal intervention and control by God
37:10than it was before so that science and
37:12scripture in our day are beginning to
37:15move together again that's all to the
37:17good I believe the third way that I
37:20showed you of reconciling signs in
37:22scripture to integrate them is necessary
37:26because both scientists and scripture
37:28are concerned with
37:29truth we are all committed to the truth
37:33and we want to find it out and I believe
37:36science has found out a lot of truth
37:38about our universe for us but it has not
37:41been able to tell us the most important
37:43truths either about God or about
37:46ourselves for that we have scripture and
37:49thank God we
37:55have
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