Unanswered Questions in the Scott Peterson Case — Transcript
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- 0:00okay I'm gonna tell you two words
- 0:04and I don't want you to be afraid so
- 0:07Scott Peterson there I got it out it
- 0:11kind of stuck in my throat
- 0:13um like a chicken bone but I did get it
- 0:16out
- 0:17why is it important because my friend
- 0:21and colleague Laura Ingle
- 0:24has just completed an incredible
- 0:28incredible coverage of Scott Peterson
- 0:32it's called the reporter's notebook the
- 0:35Scott Peterson case it's now streaming
- 0:38on Fox Nation and with me right now is
- 0:41Laura Ingle Laura thank you for being
- 0:44with us
- 0:45Nancy thank you so much I mean talk
- 0:48about timing this is 20 years that Lacey
- 0:53Peterson went missing last Christmas
- 0:55December 24th 2002 we are taking a look
- 1:00back and I was as I was getting ready to
- 1:02come on your show I was having the
- 1:04memory of of being on TV with you in
- 1:07Modesto when Scott Peterson was just
- 1:10under suspicion at that point when he
- 1:13was about to have a preliminary hearing
- 1:14you and I on TV just about 20 years ago
- 1:18talking about this you know what I
- 1:20remember that too is it funny Laura you
- 1:22have covered so many cases and you have
- 1:28an encyclopedic Institutional memory of
- 1:31so much of it in many cases I can
- 1:34remember where I was at a certain moment
- 1:36when I learned a particular fact on the
- 1:41Scott Peterson case from the very
- 1:43beginning it was all wrong the way he
- 1:46was acting what he was doing what he
- 1:48wasn't doing but I remember distinctly
- 1:52Laura Ingle I was it was cold outside
- 1:55and I was in New York and I walked into
- 1:59the lobby of my apartment building and I
- 2:04was looking
- 2:05at emails
- 2:07and somebody sent me before it was
- 2:10released the picture of Scott Peterson
- 2:12with his paw on Amber Fry's rear end and
- 2:17that red satin dress I'm like
- 2:19stop
- 2:20I sat down right there and I started
- 2:23calling and emailing
- 2:25my I cannot believe this guy while his
- 2:28wife's feet are swollen up remember she
- 2:32had to go to her little Christmas party
- 2:34all by herself while he was out with
- 2:36Amber fry who thought he was single who
- 2:39thought this was Scott Peterson's first
- 2:40Christmas without his wife because he
- 2:42was a widow
- 2:44I went berserk because there it was
- 2:46there was a Smoking Gun now tell me what
- 2:49you learned
- 2:51so here's what we did Nancy so this is
- 2:54you know a 20-year look back when when
- 2:55you have an anniversary as you will uh
- 2:58with something like that the case this
- 3:00large you know we felt it was
- 3:03appropriate to just kind of stop for a
- 3:05second and look back at not only the
- 3:07case because I covered this case uh from
- 3:10beginning to end I actually moved I was
- 3:13a radio reporter in Los Angeles which we
- 3:15talk about in the special and I was down
- 3:17in La when the story broke and and all
- 3:19those moments that you remember right
- 3:21you remember where you were I remember
- 3:23hearing about a missing pregnant woman
- 3:25in Modesto I'm from Sacramento so this
- 3:27is very close to my hometown and I went
- 3:29to my news director and I said we've got
- 3:31to go cover this look we need to help
- 3:33that's always you know the badge of a
- 3:35reporter is that you you can actually
- 3:36help and with your shows too that's why
- 3:39you do what you do in part you you get
- 3:41these stories out there so you can help
- 3:42you can put some exposure to a story to
- 3:45something that's unsolved I wanted to do
- 3:48that so so off we went up to Modesto
- 3:50when Scott Peterson was still you know
- 3:52walking around here and there with the
- 3:54flyer oh yeah you know walking around he
- 3:57he kept to himself uh it's making up his
- 4:00lies to Amber go ahead as as The Story
- 4:04Goes and as the family will tell you his
- 4:07family will tell you that everybody
- 4:09behaves differently people grieve
- 4:12differently
- 4:14so that that is something that we talked
- 4:16about in the special I think I'll
- 4:17actually just say that Jackie Sydney did
- 4:19she actually just say everybody agrees
- 4:21differently I think she did
- 4:23did you say and that's a quote okay you
- 4:26were quoting somebody
- 4:27grieving differently I don't know does
- 4:29that include calling your mistress and
- 4:31lying about where you are pretending
- 4:32you're in Paris
- 4:34while you're really at your wife's vigil
- 4:37where you don't say anything because you
- 4:39don't want to be on TV and get caught
- 4:42right so so I spoke to and and if you
- 4:45guys know the story anybody listening or
- 4:47anybody that is digging into this for
- 4:49the first time if you know this story
- 4:50you know that Scott Peterson's
- 4:53sister-in-law Janie has been leading the
- 4:56charge for two decades now to try and
- 4:59exonerate her brother-in-law that that
- 5:01family does believe that he did not do
- 5:04it obviously police prosecution
- 5:08jurors family on Lacey's side all
- 5:11believe he did it and he has you know he
- 5:13was sentenced to death his death
- 5:14sentence was overturned he is serving
- 5:17life in prison without the possibility
- 5:18of parole I went to his prison this
- 5:22actually during Christmas break do they
- 5:24offer you a glass of Bruno
- 5:27I was unable to get into Mule Creek
- 5:30State Prison house that's a yes or no
- 5:33question
- 5:34miss lady that you didn't give me Bruno
- 5:38no sorry go I so he's on so what what's
- 5:43interesting is he goes from San Quentin
- 5:45when his death sentence is overturned
- 5:48um and that was that happened by the
- 5:50California Supreme Court 2021 his death
- 5:53sentence is overturned so he goes to
- 5:55Mule Creek State Prison where he is now
- 5:57serving his life without parole then
- 6:00it's on a two it's on a two-lane road in
- 6:03the middle of what used to be Gold
- 6:04Country it's on the dusty two-lane road
- 6:09um by a town named ion and that is where
- 6:12he will be but but in the meantime there
- 6:15are appeals Nancy we all know this is
- 6:17everybody listening knows that there is
- 6:20a an appeal process so that was one of
- 6:23the things we wanted to do was let's
- 6:24talk about where we are now 20 years
- 6:27later yeah because I wanted to break him
- 6:28and I didn't want to interrupt you
- 6:29because I don't like look backs I don't
- 6:32like to look back on what's already
- 6:33happened I'd like to look forward
- 6:36I like to be in the now and looking
- 6:38forward because I can't change a darn
- 6:40thing about what's already happened I
- 6:42can only learn from mistakes or learn
- 6:44from history so I'm very curious about
- 6:49what Scott Peterson's family and I got
- 6:53to give credit to Jamie Peterson she's
- 6:55never given up I don't agree with
- 6:56anything she says but she's loyal she is
- 7:01loyal so I got to give Jamie Peterson
- 7:03that
- 7:04you know and and you will see in our
- 7:06special her evidence room I flew to San
- 7:09Diego to see her and she did oh I'm
- 7:12looking at you with her right now in her
- 7:13evidence room I'm looking right at it go
- 7:15ahead she's got these bulletin boards
- 7:17that she's put together and she actually
- 7:19used to be just one now it expands to
- 7:21three different boards that Circle the
- 7:23room that go over every single minute of
- 7:27when Lacey was last heard from uh to the
- 7:30end of the story and the burglary across
- 7:32the street which she's still to this day
- 7:34believes and so does Scott Peterson's
- 7:36family had something to do oh really
- 7:39Lacey's disappearance question the
- 7:41burglars that the cops spoke to and
- 7:43interviewed those burglars
- 7:45that's correct okay question to you did
- 7:47you also in addition to speaking with
- 7:49Jamie Peterson and seeing her war room
- 7:51as it were did you speak to Al brookini
- 7:56who worked the case for the state
- 7:59I sure did and you know Nancy was so
- 8:01interesting because as somebody who sat
- 8:02in that courtroom every single day of
- 8:05this trial and the sentencing and
- 8:07remember I moved to Redwood City I got
- 8:10an apartment and I moved in across the
- 8:12street from the courthouse in jail so I
- 8:14could be there every single minute of
- 8:16this trial and that's exactly what I did
- 8:17and I never had a chance to talk to Al
- 8:21brookini until she is a great guy
- 8:24he was he was he was so kind to give us
- 8:28his time he came and he met me for this
- 8:31special we went over everything and but
- 8:34they're they're right so I go and I talk
- 8:35to Jamie Peterson who was convinced that
- 8:37the burglary had something to do with it
- 8:39and so I spoke to why doesn't she
- 8:42outright say the Brokers killed or
- 8:44kidnapped Lacey
- 8:46she believes isn't that her Theory
- 8:48something
- 8:49essentially yes essentially there is her
- 8:52theory is that these two guys Stephen
- 8:54Todd and Glenn Pierce who were arrested
- 8:57polygraphed confessed to the burglary
- 9:00served time and had Alibis confirmed
- 9:04um she does still believe that they had
- 9:06something to do with it because there
- 9:07were more than these two guys present
- 9:11according to neighbor Diane Jackson who
- 9:15drove by on the 24th said I saw a van
- 9:18with several men and the safe was on the
- 9:21lawn you know this is before we know
- 9:24that Lacey is missing before anything
- 9:26happens there's something else going on
- 9:28across the street there's a witness who
- 9:31says that there were other men there
- 9:32have you ever watched Bewitched
- 9:37then you know about Gladys Kravitz
- 9:40yes yes okay the visibility neighbor
- 9:44that always thinks she sees things
- 9:46right her okay so this woman
- 9:51says there were more than two burglars
- 9:53in the van and therefore what am I
- 9:56supposed let's follow that through Laura
- 9:57Ingall you're the investigative reporter
- 10:00let's follow that through to its natural
- 10:01conclusion so there what am I supposed
- 10:03to believe that the burners split up and
- 10:08some of them killed Lacey and some of
- 10:10them didn't
- 10:12well there are questions she has
- 10:15questions Janie Peterson does about the
- 10:17investigative measures that were taken
- 10:19about this burglary because remember
- 10:22when the guys get caught the Medina the
- 10:24Medina family is the family across the
- 10:26street
- 10:27right yes the Medina's Leaf the Medina's
- 10:30leave for Christmas Eve to go visit
- 10:33family they leave at 10 30 a.m on
- 10:36December 24th they return at 4 20 p.m on
- 10:39December 26th they walk in holy cow
- 10:42we've been we've been burglarized and
- 10:45all they have to do is walk across the
- 10:46street because the world is there across
- 10:48the street at the Peterson's
- 10:49investigating Lacey's disappearance they
- 10:51say we have had our house has been hit
- 10:53everything is upside down and then they
- 10:56do track down the burglars and the
- 10:58burglars say yeah we we did the uh we
- 11:01did the deed on the 27th they're like
- 11:03well that's not possible because
- 11:06doesn't Diane Jackson the neighbor
- 11:09report that she saw three men three men
- 11:12only not a gang three men loading a safe
- 11:16into a van in front of the Medina home
- 11:18the morning Lacy went missing isn't that
- 11:20her theory yes
- 11:26track down two guys is that correct
- 11:30that's correct and they confessed to the
- 11:32burglary they took a polygraph and the
- 11:36police say that they found Alibis is
- 11:39that correct
- 11:41that's correct but there is where is
- 11:43this there's a third person maybe more
- 11:46we don't know who else might have been
- 11:47in the van a guy named Mark there was an
- 11:50Indian male a man with a 666 tattoo
- 11:54possibly involved five suspects to
- 11:57arrest
- 11:58that's the question and then there's you
- 12:01know not to get too deep in the weeds
- 12:02but there's the the story of a police
- 12:07Lieutenant who was working at a jail who
- 12:10overheard a conversation
- 12:12of Stephen Todd allegedly that he had a
- 12:15conversation with a family member and he
- 12:17tells somebody on the phone according to
- 12:19this Lieutenant that he heard an inmate
- 12:23talking with his brother who said Lacey
- 12:25witnessed the break-in the theory is
- 12:28that she stumbles across the burglary
- 12:31she maybe doesn't even confront them she
- 12:34confronts them she doesn't confront them
- 12:35but she's there they Panic they do
- 12:38something well wait a minute and they
- 12:40panic and do something okay
- 12:43why didn't they kill Diane Jackson
- 12:46he was driving
- 12:47she's driving she's also a neighbor
- 12:51right she's also a neighbor that they
- 12:54can find but she lives so I right so I I
- 12:58don't know if you have it handy the
- 12:59detective brokini and I spoke to
- 13:01detective Bueller about this I asked
- 13:03albertini do you believe there is any
- 13:06chance anyway anyhow that burglary
- 13:10across the street had anything to do was
- 13:12there anything that was missed if you
- 13:14have that sound you can play that you
- 13:15know what as a matter of fact Laura
- 13:17Ingle we do take a listen
- 13:21is there a chance that the burglary
- 13:24across the street from Scott and Lacey's
- 13:26house had anything to do with her
- 13:28disappearance 100 no no way we'd know
- 13:31they can't keep a secret it ain't like
- 13:34that those guys they polygraphed they
- 13:36confessed they went to jail they gave us
- 13:39all their info we confirmed their Alibis
- 13:41no chance that she came out to walk the
- 13:43dog she saw what was going on went over
- 13:46and said hey what are you guys doing
- 13:48confronted the burglars
- 13:50she wasn't even there
- 13:52she was already gone with Scott
- 13:54what do you have to say to those who are
- 13:56out there currently including Scott
- 13:58Peterson's family who say that the
- 14:02Medina burglary was connected to The
- 14:05Disappearance of Lacey when it comes to
- 14:07the burglary that was probably the most
- 14:09thoroughly investigated burglary that
- 14:12had ever been done at Modesto Police
- 14:13Department up to that point
- 14:15and let's hear more to my friend and
- 14:20colleague detective brokini and our cut
- 14:22four
- 14:24I think she was killed on the 24th in
- 14:27the morning
- 14:28and I think it was a soft kill if you
- 14:30look at her bed he's either behind her
- 14:34or in front of her bags her or just
- 14:36strangles her and she scratches them
- 14:39he rolls her up in the blue tarp puts
- 14:42her in the truck somebody sees them now
- 14:45he's got to put something else in the
- 14:46truck some umbrellas make sure it's in a
- 14:49blue tarp and then takes her to the shop
- 14:52there ain't nobody there it's an
- 14:54industrial area there ain't houses
- 14:55around
- 14:57can I ask you a question Laura Ingall
- 14:59and you've got so much more to tell me
- 15:00guys let me tell you again this is
- 15:02called reporters in Notebook the Scott
- 15:04Peterson
- 15:07story or trial
- 15:09case case thank you so reporters
- 15:13notebook the Scott Peterson case and
- 15:15it's streaming on Fox Nation right now
- 15:17and it's pretty incredible and this is
- 15:20all Laura Ingalls idea and she has
- 15:23executed it incredibly when you're
- 15:27talking to Janie Peterson and you're
- 15:30asking her about facts
- 15:32what was her theory about why her
- 15:35brother-in-law Scott Peterson places
- 15:37himself at the scene of the disposal of
- 15:41Lacey and Connor his wife and unborn
- 15:44baby boy on the day they were dumped
- 15:47there and went missing the marina
- 15:51well she said that he had this boat and
- 15:54he wanted to Simply get it in the water
- 15:56and take it out for a spin
- 15:58and that's really it but what her point
- 16:02of contention is about the fact that do
- 16:04you remember I mean I remember so well
- 16:07the police coming out and saying we need
- 16:08to verify Lacey Peterson's husband's
- 16:11Alibi here's his truck here's his boat
- 16:14if anybody has seen the truck in the
- 16:16boat please contact the Modesto Police
- 16:18Department because he says he was there
- 16:20on the 24th now if you were Jamie
- 16:23Peterson and you're watching this and
- 16:25you're the Peterson Family you're
- 16:27thinking well they just gave away his
- 16:29Alibi so if somebody did have
- 16:31Lacey or the body then they've given
- 16:34away you know they've given a very easy
- 16:36way to frame this guy put the body in
- 16:39the water where this guy said he was
- 16:41that day now she has a very detailed
- 16:44timeline that we go over in our box okay
- 16:46again again Laura Ingle you're going
- 16:49warp speed let's take what you just said
- 16:52you're quoting Jamie Peterson the
- 16:54sister-in-law through to its logical
- 16:57conclusion so what her theory is
- 17:00regarding the marina is that the real
- 17:04killer
- 17:06sees where cops have said hey if any of
- 17:10you know anything about this boat and
- 17:12this truck being at this Marina
- 17:15tell us
- 17:16so her theory is that the real killer
- 17:19saw that and heard it and went WoW
- 17:21instead of burying her out in the woods
- 17:24I'm going to go and risk getting caught
- 17:27and taking her body and I'm going to
- 17:29dump it at the marina and make it look
- 17:31like he did it is that the theory
- 17:34that is one of the possible okay all
- 17:37right
- 17:38yes and can I ask if you questioned
- 17:41Janie Peterson on her brother's
- 17:43Clairvoyant abilities telling that Amber
- 17:47fry and this is well before Lacey was
- 17:50murdered telling Amber fry that this
- 17:53would be his first Christmas as a
- 17:55widower
- 17:57and then no we talked he was
- 18:01right so you know that was listen you
- 18:04know I had we sat down and we talked
- 18:06about Scott Peterson's infidelity and
- 18:09she can't defend that she said I don't
- 18:13care who he's sleeping with Laura Engel
- 18:14don't care
- 18:16I care about him
- 18:19admitting that this will be the first
- 18:21Christmas that his wife was dead and
- 18:23then lo and behold a few days later it
- 18:26was
- 18:27so he gets clearly sleeping with whoever
- 18:29he can manage to convince to hop into
- 18:33bed with him that's his problem my
- 18:35question is about his Clairvoyance how
- 18:37did he somehow know look into his
- 18:40crystal ball and know Lacey would be
- 18:41dead by Christmas
- 18:43now I'm going to say I don't think he he
- 18:46did say this is going to be my first
- 18:48Christmas without my wife
- 18:50he did in my interpretation of what he
- 18:54told Amber Frye imply that she was dead
- 18:58I don't know if he ever used the words
- 19:00she's dead
- 19:01what does that mean to you I agreed and
- 19:05agreed and agreed but the point is is
- 19:09that Janie can't defend that part and
- 19:11she says you know my brother my
- 19:13brother-in-law had a problem with women
- 19:16with sleeping with women and and making
- 19:18up stories and you know she can't defend
- 19:22that but she says the lies that were
- 19:24pulled in regards to
- 19:26what his marital status was where you
- 19:29know all of that can't be descended but
- 19:31there are no lies when it comes to the
- 19:34Murder She said there are a fair lies
- 19:36but there's no murder lies can I just
- 19:39give you a quote by Albert keaney
- 19:41that you interviewed in depth
- 19:43according to bro keaney
- 19:46uh Detective albertini from Modesto PD
- 19:49Peterson told Amber fry quote he had
- 19:52lost his wife and this would be his
- 19:54first holiday without his wife
- 19:57the detective said he later learned
- 19:59Scott Peterson called fright daily
- 20:01starting Christmas Day the day after
- 20:04Lacey disappeared
- 20:06his first holiday without his wife
- 20:09that's from brokini
- 20:12two weeks before his wife was murdered
- 20:15Scott Peterson told his mistress his
- 20:16wife was already dead and that he was
- 20:19about to spend his first Christmas
- 20:20without her says the lead detective in
- 20:23the case that was his testimony at trial
- 20:25and I'm quoting
- 20:27that's what he said
- 20:29well you're right I'm just remembering
- 20:32the conversation I had with JD we didn't
- 20:34hear we didn't talk about the word dead
- 20:36but she did say that she just couldn't
- 20:40defend the affair part but in terms of
- 20:43the murder
- 20:45he didn't do it you did an extensive
- 20:48investigation
- 20:49and I I don't want to call it an
- 20:51anniversary but you're not just marking
- 20:54the time when Lacey left this Earth and
- 20:57Peterson became a suspect and went to
- 20:59trial you actually re-investigate quite
- 21:02a bit of it yourself hopefully putting
- 21:05some of the fires out that have Arisen
- 21:08over time
- 21:09what was your biggest takeaway Laura and
- 21:12guys I'm talking to my friend and
- 21:14colleague Laura Ingle on about her
- 21:17incredible new venture reporter's
- 21:20notebook the Scott Peterson case is
- 21:22streaming right now on Fox Nation I've
- 21:24seen it and I'm going to watch it again
- 21:25because there's so much information in
- 21:28it I couldn't really digest it all at
- 21:30once but what's your big takeaway Laura
- 21:33I think one of the big takeaways is the
- 21:37Lacy siding the the investigative
- 21:40measures and I do believe that the it is
- 21:43not just the Modesto Police Department
- 21:44it was the Stanislaus County District
- 21:46Attorney's office as well and there's
- 21:48this big huge question were all the Lacy
- 21:52sightings followed up on were they all
- 21:54investigated and there's this couple in
- 21:57Modesto they still live just a few
- 21:59blocks away from where Scott and Lacy
- 22:01Peterson lived on Covina I went and
- 22:03spoke to them Homer and Sue Maldonado
- 22:05they claim that they spoke to the police
- 22:08they called in a tip he swears to this
- 22:11day 20 years later that he saw Lacey
- 22:14Peterson in the window of time after dot
- 22:18Peterson had already left for the marina
- 22:20and about in that there's this critical
- 22:2230 minute window right so right around
- 22:24that time he squirts that he follow AC
- 22:26Peterson struggling with the dog didn't
- 22:28that come forward at trial
- 22:31did
- 22:33garagos bring that up
- 22:35that Witnesses saw her after
- 22:39Peterson took her away took her body
- 22:42away
- 22:43I remember remember that they had like a
- 22:45pregnant person lineup they had a
- 22:47incredibly there were multiple pregnant
- 22:50women with dark hair with golden
- 22:53retrievers one even with a name of
- 22:56Mackenzie the same name as the Peterson
- 22:58I remember that
- 23:00it's like you know and and this was
- 23:02somebody that worked for law enforcement
- 23:04and had recently received threats so
- 23:06could it be that Lacey was mistaken for
- 23:08that person
- 23:10um that was investigated and so when P
- 23:13when some people say the Modesto Police
- 23:15never called me back the Stanislaus
- 23:16County D and I asked rocini about that
- 23:18he said we had an entire team of Lacey
- 23:21Peterson sightings Task Force if you
- 23:24will of people that went around and
- 23:26followed up on those sightings so
- 23:28brokini tells me that every Lacy
- 23:31sighting that was relevant was followed
- 23:34up on Homer Maldonado who I talked to
- 23:36told me they never they meaning the
- 23:39police or any Authority came back and
- 23:41spoke to him and we talked about what he
- 23:43says he saw that morning he says that he
- 23:46saw a woman with star care who matches
- 23:48Lacey's description perfectly with the
- 23:50exact same dog struggling with the dog
- 23:52and that conversation is in our special
- 23:55reporter's notebook and that is that's
- 23:58been a big contention of were all of
- 24:01those sightings followed up on depends
- 24:04on who you talk to Janie will tell you
- 24:06they all were not broken he will tell
- 24:09detective brokini will tell you the ones
- 24:11we had a team of people that were
- 24:13assigned to that and brokini you know
- 24:14there were so many people that said
- 24:15throughout this trial that or throughout
- 24:18this case an investigation that
- 24:19investigators zeroed in on Scott and we
- 24:22know that that happens right they always
- 24:23look at the husband or the boyfriend
- 24:24first and and bro Kimi told me and he
- 24:27said it on the stand he said my job was
- 24:29to clear Scott my job was we wanted to
- 24:33clear him so that we could move on he
- 24:35said and I just could never do that I
- 24:37just couldn't get there
- 24:38guys with me is Laura Ingle you sit here
- 24:41all the time on Fox News
- 24:44and now she is bringing this to you for
- 24:47all of you you that still have lingering
- 24:49questions regarding Scott Peterson's
- 24:51guilt or innocence
- 24:53Laura Ingall has presented reporter's
- 24:56notebook the Scott Peterson case is
- 24:59streaming right now on Fox Nation and
- 25:01it's incredible just like you Laura
- 25:04thank you for being with us bye Betty
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