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0:02The white helmets with this font belong
0:04only to, I mean, I don't know if to one
0:06, but to the one I know, maybe others
0:08too, but they belong to what is nicely
0:10called Landesbereitschaftspolizei.
0:15Landesbereitschaftspolizei, these are
0:17officers of the Hamburg riot police.
0:20Let's start with that.
0:22And these are helmets of the Hamburg
0:24riot police.
0:27I won't even mention the fact that
0:31there are recordings circulating on the
0:34internet of Poles driving to Warsaw, and
0:36cars marked "Polizei" are strangely also
0:38heading to Warsaw.
0:40Good morning, everyone. We warmly
0:42welcome you together with Artur
0:43Wójtowicz. I bow to you, Artur.
0:46>> A warm welcome to everyone.
0:49Dear viewers, since the topic of today's
0:51material would have been a conspiracy
0:52theory just two years ago, that such a
0:54thing could even exist, I would like to
0:56draw your attention to the fact that
0:58there is no green glow here.
1:02Unfortunately, things are actually
1:04happening, and Poland is on the brink of
1:06civil war, because one side has attacked
1:08the Constitutional Tribunal, and the
1:10other side is defending it.
1:13And the best part is that no one knows
1:15which side attacked and which side is
1:16defending, because both sides claim that
1:18they are the ones defending, and the
1:20other is attacking.
1:24Just a week ago, we had a pre-civil war
1:26situation in 12 out of 46 European
1:28countries, and now there are 14, because
1:30Germany joined over the last weekend,
1:33which is not being talked about due to
1:35the situation in Poland.
1:39And Poland, too.
1:42Dear viewers, this material is being
1:44made on November 2, 2026, and we are
1:46starting to record at 10:13 AM.
1:51I mention this because the situation is
1:53highly dynamic and may change.
1:55My guest, and yours, as you can see, is
1:58Artur Wójtowicz. A man of all
2:03talents, a true Renaissance man,
2:07>> more accurately, a sensible thinker.
2:10>> And he is also a man.
2:14The shorts circulating on TikTok are
2:15usually taken from our joint broadcasts
2:17, but they edit them so that it's either
2:19just the voice or they show only Artur.
2:24Um, for example, those texts saying
2:26Russia won't attack us because we,
2:28unlike the Ukrainians...Exactly, uh, let
2:30me remind you.
2:33Artur is a theologian, a dogmatic
2:35theologian of the Catholic Church, he is
2:38a sea captain, he is a YouTuber, and he
2:40is a documentarian.
2:43On Artur's YouTube channel, you will
2:45find documentary films.
2:47There is one every month.
2:50In the description, you have a link to
2:52Artur's channel so you can familiarize
2:53yourself with Artur's work.
2:56And you also have a link to the latest
2:58documentary film that appeared.
3:01This is a link about—this is a
3:03documentary film about the underground
3:05city that is located under Katowice. Not
3:07to be confused with Wrocław, because I
3:09always confuse them. They are completely
3:10different cities. Katowice has not yet
3:12been largely taken over by Ukrainians.
3:15You can still often hear the Polish
3:16language there, and there is an
3:18underground city there.
3:20And Artur went down there with a camera
3:22, had a look around, and recorded, so to
3:24speak.
3:26And you can watch for yourselves what he
3:27did and what the results are.
3:31And ladies and gentlemen, any day now—
3:33today is the second, and I believe the
3:35sixth is when a new documentary film
3:37will premiere—so I encourage you to
3:39subscribe to Artur and tune in around
3:41the sixth.
3:43I am not yet allowed to reveal what this
3:44documentary will be about.
3:46Well, you will find out on the sixth.
3:48But today, ladies and gentlemen, we are
3:50going to talk about exactly that,
3:54about what is happening around the
3:56Constitutional Tribunal and in Poland.
4:03Taking the opportunity that Artur, like
4:05most of us Poles, spent last weekend
4:07celebrating at the graves and has more
4:09or less the same level of knowledge as
4:11the typical Pole—unlike me, who was
4:13sitting on this non-stop to report on it
4:15—this is a unique option to hear how a
4:17typical Pole sees it, one who didn't
4:19delve too deeply into it, because he was
4:21occupied with what one should be, that
4:23is, contemplation of passing.
4:31Artur, if you were to define this
4:33situation around the tribunal in one
4:35short paragraph, generally speaking?
4:38What is it all about?
4:40>> Listen, I'll tell you very simply.
4:45I, of course, there is talk here that
4:47the issue, one could ask the first basic
4:49question, why does Tusk even need to
4:50take over the Constitutional Tribunal?
4:54Well, I can answer you.
4:57>> And you know what, I can tell you openly
4:59why, here it is not even about the
5:01issues, you have to look at what the
5:03Constitutional Tribunal can do, for
5:05starters.
5:08And you know, the truth is here, because
5:10we will get to that.
5:11A coup d'état that is being carried out
5:14by force, which also, among others, the
5:16police—for example, part of the police—
5:18said they would not take part in;
5:20strangely enough, the German police are
5:23taking part, and that is no secret.
5:25The police who were standing under,
5:27under, let's call it,
5:31the state tribunal—it is called so
5:33nicely, you know, let me tell you, in
5:35German. Those white helmets, I don't
5:38know if you remember those white helmets
5:40regarding
5:42exactly those numbers on the helmets,
5:44and Braun was saying there, what I saw,
5:46that some gentleman without a number on
5:48his helmet was pushing on me and so on
5:50and so forth.
5:51>> Well, that doesn't necessarily have to
5:52be the German police. I'll play devil's
5:55advocate here, heaven forbid I don't
5:56support Tusk.
6:00Uh, although those could have been
6:01training helmets, because they were
6:03taking people there not just from the
6:05riot squad, but from any unit, loading
6:06them into those helmets, uh, and that's
6:08it.
6:10Yes. So it didn't necessarily have to be
6:12Germans.
6:14However, it is true that there were
6:15police officers there who should not
6:17have been.
6:19There is one more thing.
6:22Notice that the number of digits on the
6:23helmets of some of these police officers
6:25did not match the number of digits
6:27Polish police officers have.
6:29>> But that is precisely why I wanted to
6:31tell you what these helmets are,
6:33>> because I know a little bit about this.
6:35Let's start with a few things.
6:37You cannot say these are training
6:39helmets, because no Polish helmets have
6:41these sizes or these dimensions.
6:43There are Polish helmets, if you take
6:45riot police, either olive, or black, or
6:47others.
6:49White helmets with this font belong only
6:51to, well I don't know if just one, but
6:53one that I know of.
6:56Maybe others too, but they belong to,
6:58it's called quite nicely,
6:59Landesbereitschaftspolizei.
7:03Landesbereitschaftspolizei, those are
7:05officers of the Hamburg riot police.
7:08Let's start with that.
7:10And those are helmets of the Hamburg
7:12riot police.
7:15I won't even mention the fact that
7:20there are videos circulating online of
7:22Poles driving to Warsaw, and
7:23coincidentally, police cars marked "
7:25Polizei" are also heading to Warsaw as
7:27reinforcements.
7:29A strange matter. And another strange
7:32thing is that all of this is being
7:33trumpeted on both BBC and CNN.
7:37Of course, it is being shown, from what
7:39my friends in England tell me, in a way
7:41that suggests Tusk is supposedly in the
7:43right, let's call it that.
7:45It is highlighted by the BBC and CNN,
7:48while other television networks, let's
7:50say Italian or others, portray it a bit
7:52differently.
7:54But what am I getting at?
7:55Listen, you know what?
7:58Well, strangely enough, when that police
8:00was standing there, somehow, even my
8:01friends from Hamburg and others—because
8:03I have been working for various German
8:05companies for I don't know, 10 years—
8:07Well, the result is that they were
8:09asking what our police are doing with
8:11you.
8:15So this is that kind of situation too,
8:17because, my dear friends, Polish helmets
8:19are a little different.
8:23They are either black or olive, when it
8:25comes to riot police.
8:28Now the question is, why in this case,
8:30regarding people like Braun said, the
8:32issue about why don't you speak up?
8:35No, none of them will speak up because
8:37they don't speak Polish.
8:40>> Well, another issue is that
8:43>> police officers would react differently
8:44seeing the Polish president, and
8:46differently officers who don't know the
8:48Polish president.
8:51>> You know, I will play devil's advocate
8:53again, without denying your y claims.
8:58However, you know, when you are a police
9:00officer fresh out of the academy, you
9:02don't know damn anything, you stand in
9:03the crowd, you got the order you got,
9:05they might not have broken rank because
9:07they were simply afraid.
9:10Look at the faces of those police
9:12officers. These are young people around
9:1420 years of age.
9:17That's why they took these ones, because
9:18the adults know perfectly well that the
9:20situation is a toss-up.
9:22Depending on who wins, charges may or
9:24may not be pressed.
9:27And the charges carry up to 20 years in
9:29prison, because that's participating in
9:31a coup.
9:35It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter if
9:37you gave the orders, if you're the
9:39usurper posing as a judge, or a cop
9:40supporting her.
9:43You are liable in exactly the same way.
9:47And getting 20 years for, you know, for
9:49following a service order is pretty bad
9:51.
9:53So what do, uh, what do experienced cops
9:56do? They get "dog flu." Do you know what
9:59dog flu is? No.
10:00>> Of course.
10:01>> When a cop gets an order that they know
10:03could land them in jail if they follow
10:04it, they go to the doctor and say
10:06they're sick.
10:08And the doctor asks what with? "Dog flu
10:10, doctor," and the doctor writes them
10:11something. And let me put it this way. I
10:13was a civil servant for half a year.
10:17After half a year, I quit for many
10:18reasons, including the fact that I was
10:20ordered to issue a decision.
10:24And I see that the decision is
10:25completely illegal. "No, no, you have to
10:28issue it."
10:29"Well, could I get a written order?""No
10:31, you have to issue it." You know how it
10:33goes later. I would have issued it.
10:36>> Then I see, I see some years later,
10:38right?
10:39Back when I was already a YouTuber.
10:42An investigative committee, the person
10:44who was hired for my position, is
10:46confessing before the investigative
10:47committee.
10:49That's how it is sometimes, you know,
10:51but it's different when you're a 30-40-
10:53year-old experienced person, and
10:54different when you're a student. De
10:56facto.
10:57>> Krzysiek, it's the same situation as in
10:59Vabank, right, where Spięty was pulling
11:01the heist? And he finally says to Kwinto
11:04, "What should I tell Spięty, so he
11:06relaxes?" No, this is, among other
11:07things, that type of situation, because
11:09then Spięty, suddenly Szpula and Spięty
11:11were in jail instead of Kwinto, right?
11:13>> Yeah. Exactly. Yes,
11:15>> but they were the ones robbing. But you
11:17know Krzysiek, I'll go back to the topic
11:19, to the question you asked, because we
11:21have a lot here.
11:22We have this...I don't know if you
11:24noticed that for three days, since the
11:26row about the State Tribunal, there are
11:28absolutely no alerts.
11:29>> Exactly. I talked about it on the
11:31podcast recently.
11:32>> I don't know, no, I didn't listen, but
11:34there are no alerts. Somehow there is no
11:36threat.
11:37But you have to scare with something
11:38else, so you scare.
11:40>> But look, because I even called friends
11:42near the border, "are there alerts?"
11:44There aren't. Look what a...
11:45>> And I was near the border. And I was
11:47actually near the border for All Saints
11:49'Day.
11:50>> And there are absolutely no alerts.
11:53>> So you see, Tusk stopped Putin with the
11:55power of attacking the tribunal.
11:57Simply put, Putin saw how strong this
12:00Tusk is and got scared. Yes, that’s how
12:02it was.
12:03>> However, I will tell you one more thing
12:04, because let's go back to your question
12:06that you asked here.
12:08There is a flood of information today,
12:10but no one is talking about one thing.
12:14Except for Błgui, who mentioned it in
12:15the Sejm.
12:17And it is worth knowing and remembering
12:18.
12:19Why is this coup taking place at this
12:21very moment?
12:23My dear friends, I will tell you for one
12:25simple reason.
12:27In the near future, the European Union
12:29budget will be passed.
12:33The joke is that for this budget to be
12:35passed, there must be a federalization
12:37of the Union.
12:39There must be a federalization of the
12:41Union.
12:42The Union never hid the fact that its
12:44goal is to break up nation-states and
12:46create a federation.
12:48They never hid it, but people mostly let
12:50it go in one ear and out the other.
12:53However, for federalization to happen,
12:56for Poland to be broken up into
12:58provinces, into lands, into provinces,
13:01>> they have these macro-regions there,
13:02each with several provinces, Poland into
13:04maybe three or four
13:05>> for example.
13:07>> Well then, my dear friends, the Tribunal
13:09of State is needed for that. The
13:11Tribunal of State is also needed for
13:13another thing. If
13:14>> But that is the Constitutional Tribunal
13:16, not the Tribunal of State.
13:17>> Sorry, the Constitutional Tribunal.
13:19Sorry, I misspoke.
13:22The Constitutional Tribunal is also
13:24needed for another thing, to rule that
13:26President Nawrocki was invalidly elected
13:28.
13:30Is that another matter it's used for? If
13:34>> plus what has been said for a long time
13:36, plus to recognize that his removal
13:38from office due to alleged inability to
13:40perform his duties is valid.
13:44>> Of course.
13:46Moreover, I don't know if you heard,
13:48Rzeczpospolita reported it today or
13:50yesterday, I don't remember because time
13:53flies so fast, that there are plans now
13:55, primarily, to arrest Święczkowski.
13:59That is another matter. And I will tell
14:01you one more thing, because rarely does
14:03anyone talk about this either, because
14:05when data and secrets leaked—I’ll skip
14:07that provocateur they were catching who
14:09was running away, and he was a guy, I
14:11think, from the ABW or SKW, I don't
14:12remember, counterintelligence.
14:14>> That provocateur.
14:15>> Yes, from counterintelligence.
14:17>> A private company.
14:18>> Yes, yes, but he was in
14:19counterintelligence before. Such
14:21counterintelligence that he let retirees
14:23stop him.
14:24>> Well, such Polish counterintelligence
14:26that a retiree
14:26>> went with a holster on an operation, not
14:28a police one.
14:29>> Yes. Yeah.
14:31And I want to say one more thing.
14:36Uh, data leaked, and it's possible to
14:38access it, that at the moment when
14:40Nawrocki was turning the plane around
14:42from Senegal, well, they intended to
14:44prevent Nawrocki from reaching Warsaw.
14:50There were, there were issues that they
14:52were supposed to forbid him from landing
14:54in Warsaw, and the plane was to be
14:56diverted to Wrocław.
14:58so he wouldn't make it in time
15:00>> and so he wouldn't make it in time and
15:01for those things to be blocked in
15:03Wrocław, he was supposed to be stopped.
15:05Those were the issues.
15:07I will keep returning to those German
15:09helmets, because I honestly have some,
15:11you know, some orientation in certain
15:13matters.
15:14So the tribunal, well, they were
15:16supposed to provide that false
15:18information about the weather conditions
15:19. That is also very, very interesting,
15:22and this whole plan to isolate the
15:23president is just, I mean, it seems to
15:25me, you know what, Krzysiek, since
15:27you're asking me what I think about it,
15:29I'll tell you very simply that it seems
15:31to me that while people talk nonsense
15:33there, about why the Tribunal of State,
15:35why this and that, yet somehow no one
15:37ever had a Tribunal of State, right?
15:39Suddenly, at this moment, Tusk and the
15:41rest could brilliantly end up regretting
15:43this.
15:45They could regret it because they were
15:47already—it's known that PiS and
15:49Platforma are the same evil—but they
15:51were ripping into PiS in various ways to
15:53show how law-abiding they are, right.
15:58At the moment, there will be a situation
16:00where PiS will want to bounce back, and
16:02PiS, remember one thing, PiS is
16:04terrified, because PiS will not form a
16:06government on its own.
16:11Furthermore, remember that PiS will try
16:13to cover up and make it look like they
16:14are so good, covering up the covid
16:16issues and various others.
16:19However, saying what you said, that
16:21young people out of school were afraid.
16:23Listen, in Nuremberg there were also
16:25those who were afraid.
16:26>> That's true.
16:27>> I just wanted to say that in Nuremberg
16:29there were also those who were afraid.
16:30And there is no excuse that someone
16:32didn't know. During covid they didn't
16:34know, they tackled people to the ground
16:36, handcuffed them.
16:37After all, in shopping centers they made
16:39a circus out of people. They weren't
16:41defending people from covid, but covid
16:43from people.
16:44>> And speaking of, listen,
16:48because Nuremberg 2.0, settling scores.
16:51>> Yeah.
16:51>> The man who shouted so much in Polish
16:53politics that he would do a Nuremberg
16:552.0 and hold those scumbags accountable
16:57was Mr. Grzegorz Braun, right?
16:59>> Yes.
16:59>> And that is, in my opinion, one of the
17:02pluses. Of Mr. Grzegorz Braun, that he
17:04shouted so much that the PiS members
17:05must be held accountable.
17:07>> How, in the context of him promising
17:09that the PiS members would go to jail,
17:11especially Kaczyński, is the fact that
17:12he went to the protests and started
17:14fraternizing with them. He even took a
17:16sweet selfie with Kaczyński and he
17:18uploaded it himself to his own profile
17:20on X.
17:21>> I mean, listen, I'll tell you one
17:23fundamental thing.
17:25Kaczyński's foolish talk.
17:28What I perceive is Kaczyński's foolish
17:30talk in such a way that he will never
17:32enter into a coalition with Braun. Oh,
17:34don't let him lose his mind. The truth
17:36is generally that after the elections,
17:38it will come down to arithmetic.
17:40>> Well, without Braun, they won't form a
17:42coalition.
17:42>> Without Braun, they won't. What's more,
17:44all the talk about how this one won't go
17:46, or that one won't go. Everyone will go
17:48. For now, they have to talk like that
17:49because everyone wants to squeeze out as
17:51many votes as possible. That's the type
17:53of situation this is. I even listened to
17:55someone from the Crown of the Polish
17:56Kingdom Confederation recently, saying
17:58they aren't closing themselves off to
17:59negotiations with anyone.
18:02The truth is generally that, uh, uh,
18:04even Nawrocki noticed this, and that's
18:06why in one of his speeches he stated
18:08very clearly that you cannot pretend the
18:10Crown of the Polish Kingdom
18:11Confederation doesn't exist in Poland.
18:17You can't, because the group of these
18:19people and Braun's supporters is very
18:21large,
18:22>> very large, and pretending they aren't
18:24there is even more so.
18:29So even Nawrocki said it, because
18:31Nawrocki is aware right now, in my
18:33opinion, President Nawrocki's plan is
18:35simply to create one unified right wing
18:37, and absolutely, PiS is not any kind of
18:40right wing.
18:43It’s not any kind of right wing, because
18:45PiS are socialists, let's remember that
18:47. It is not any right wing. They didn't
18:49even lie next to the right wing on cots
18:51in preschool.
18:54However, however, it is a necessary evil
18:57, I would say, because the truth is that
18:59Confederation and
19:04Confederation and the Crown of the
19:05Polish Kingdom Confederation have more
19:07votes than PiS combined.
19:09>> Yes, more.
19:11With all my objectivity regarding Mr.
19:13Braun, I believe that Mr. Braun has much
19:15greater support than the polls show.
19:20>> But for me, it's not so much about that
19:22side; I mean, the fact that Kaczyński is
19:24a two-faced character is obvious to me.
19:27For instance, the guy Kaczyński created
19:30Morawiecki. Morawiecki was, after all,
19:32Tusk's man to begin with. Just read and
19:34listen to the "Owl and Friends" tapes.
19:37Morawiecki was supposed to be a minister
19:39in Tusk's government. It was promised by
19:41, mind you, Lejba Fogelman, a high
19:43school classmate of Kaczyński.
19:46So, the fact that Morawiecki is a
19:48character is obvious. And that he is
19:50Tusk's man. Why did he become Prime
19:52Minister of the PiS government?
19:55Because Kaczyński decided so, or the
19:57American Zionists who rule Kaczyński
19:59told him to.
20:01In my opinion, the second option is more
20:03likely. In any case, Kaczyński is
20:05responsible for everything Morawiecki
20:07did, because he was Prime Minister
20:09because of him. And now, yes
20:14this Kaczyński is a piece of—I won't say
20:16it by name, because you know, I'll be
20:18sued for defamation later if I say it,
20:24if I tell the truth about this man who,
20:26let me put it this way, has destroyed
20:28Poland probably more than anyone else.
20:31The fact that the guy is repulsive, that
20:33he was insulting Braun, saying he would
20:35never enter a coalition with him, and
20:37now he smiles so nicely in cute selfies
20:39, the fact that Kaczyński is a two-faced
20:41politician is obvious.
20:44No honest person should even spit on him
20:46.
20:49However, I wonder more about Braun’s
20:51side.
20:52Because Braun was such a man of
20:53character, and now he wants to sit
20:55together with this, I quote, "Satan,"
20:57whom he promised to throw in jail.
20:59In the government benches, forming a
21:01coalition with them. Taking cute selfies
21:03with them.
21:05I told you once before, Krzysiek, one
21:07fundamental thing. I think during one of
21:09our political conversations I said
21:11something, or I mentioned it on my
21:12channel, that in my opinion
21:16>> the 2023 parliamentary elections are the
21:18last elections in Poland.
21:22They are the last elections because we
21:24have already given up so much, the Tusk
21:26government and Morawiecki have given up
21:28so many various prerogatives to the
21:30European Union to rule on Poland's
21:32behalf, that there is really nothing
21:34left to give away.
21:36Let's start with that.
21:37And that is why we must be aware that
21:40the elections in 2027
21:43generally, remember that in France, Le
21:46Pen is coming to power.
21:49In Spain, the leftists fell as soon as
21:51Sanchez gave up the government.
21:54You have issues in Poland, there will be
21:56elections too. In Germany, the AfD is
21:59rising.
22:00So the Union is falling apart completely
22:02.
22:04The Union is falling apart completely
22:06and all these moves by Tusk are meant to
22:08destroy Poland completely, to make it
22:10completely dependent on Germany,
22:12especially on the eurozone, because we
22:14would then have to give up our gold and
22:17so on, right?
22:19So these things, these issues are
22:20heading in that direction.
22:23I’ll tell you honestly that these will
22:25be the last elections and this is the
22:27last chance.
22:30And here, in reality, at the moment, it
22:32is primarily about the fact that, in my
22:34opinion, the president will want to
22:36dissolve this parliament because they
22:38have already gone way too far.
22:41It was possible to tolerate and play
22:43around with squabbles, vetoing, not
22:45vetoing, but what they have done right
22:47now as a coup d'état—and now they are
22:49themselves, claiming that
22:51Korwin-Piotrowska wasn't shielding him
22:53at all. Absolutely not, no.
22:55>> Not at all, she was just grabbing him by
22:56the lapels. She said: "Sir..."
22:58>> She didn't reach out her hand because
22:59she wanted to greet him there. He said:
23:02"
23:02>> Well, damn, you never wanted to greet me
23:04, because I’ll be afraid that you want
23:06to attack me. I might mistake you for a
23:08bandit and I will defend myself."
23:10>> Don't question it. You know, I don't
23:12question the issue, because I'll add my
23:14own spoonful of tar as well.
23:17I am not questioning the fact that
23:18neither the legislative nor the
23:20executive branch has any right to mess
23:21with the judiciary, because these are
23:23three independent entities.
23:26Of course, that's true. Of course,
23:28that's true. I am fully aware of all of
23:30that. Someone might say that the
23:31president shouldn't have gone there and
23:33so on.
23:34Of course we could say that, if we were
23:35dealing with sane people.
23:42However, the fact that Tusk was
23:43constantly blocking the Constitutional
23:45Tribunal by not publishing verdicts, and
23:47then when he cut salaries, when he
23:49blackmailed them, when he tried to
23:50starve them out in various ways—look at
23:52what was being done and for what purpose
23:54it was being done.
24:00So, in my assessment, the 2027 elections
24:02will be the last elections.
24:06If there are any idiots again who will
24:08argue about whether to vote for PiS or
24:10for the Platform and will bicker, they
24:12shouldn't even go to these elections,
24:13because, well, they simply have
24:15absolutely no idea, in my view, of what
24:17is actually happening in Poland right
24:19now.
24:24But what President Nawrocki is doing—as
24:26I said, PiS is a necessary evil, and PiS
24:28at this moment will make deals with
24:30anyone to cover their own ass.
24:37To cover their own ass and to avoid
24:39being judged for the Nuremberg 2.0 issue
24:41.
24:43And only if you form a government, well
24:45, your coalition partner won't put you
24:46on trial.
24:48But remember one thing, Krzysiek.
24:51It’s a really shitty situation, in my
24:53opinion, that up to a certain point you
24:55are the ruler, and right now you are
24:57becoming a sidekick, because as I say,
24:59Confederation plus the Confederation of
25:01the Polish Crown have more votes than
25:03PiS.
25:04>> And that even comes out in the polls.
25:06And in my opinion, they really have more
25:08than what shows in the polls. Even more
25:09than in the polls, in my assessment. Mhm
25:11.
25:11>> Even more than in the polls, because
25:13people are ashamed to admit or ashamed
25:15to say they are voting for Braun or
25:17something, but to a large extent they
25:19know that—I'm not saying he is perfect.
25:22I’m not saying he is perfect at all, but
25:25I cannot understand the idiocy of people
25:27who bicker like kindergarten children,
25:29voting for PiS, then for the Platform,
25:31then for PiS, then "maybe I won't go at
25:33all" or something, right? And so on. You
25:36know,
25:37>> listen, maybe we shouldn't turn this
25:39into election material. Hmm, because on
25:41one hand, I agree that voting for PiS or
25:44the Platform is not good. On the other
25:46hand, I personally don't really see who
25:48to vote for, but I wouldn't want this
25:50discussion to descend into that.
25:52>> Mhm.
25:53>> Tusk, Tribunal.
25:54>> Well,
25:55>> next question for you, because in my
25:57opinion—I'll give a little preamble—in
25:59my view, Tusk lost this battle over the
26:01tribunal.
26:02>> Of course. And so, in my opinion, he
26:04only has two moves. Either back off or
26:07move forward.
26:09If he backs off, in my opinion, there
26:11will be a big assault on him, and he
26:13might even—well, he won't go to jail,
26:15because there's a rule.
26:17We don't touch yours, you don't touch
26:19ours, but his lesser colleagues might
26:21end up going.
26:23>> Whether or not he goes to jail will be
26:25decided by Braun, Bosak, and Mentzen,
26:28not PiS.
26:30Well, we'll see. Let’s hope, hope, hope
26:32, hope, and hope they aren't sellouts,
26:34>> because in this arrangement, because in
26:36this arrangement, PiS will be an
26:37accessory to that coalition. Let’s hope
26:39.
26:43But listen, what I wanted to ask you is
26:45, do you think Tusk might go as far as
26:47to use some pretext to declare a state
26:48of emergency or martial law in Poland to
26:51stop this whole movement that is
26:52emerging right now?
26:59For example, you know, since he’s so in
27:01cahoots with Putin that Putin has
27:02stopped posing a threat and we no longer
27:04need RCB alerts, maybe he’s so in
27:06cahoots with Putin that Putin will soon
27:08hit us here with some Ukrainian missile
27:10and cause martial law for us.
27:13What do you think, will he go that far?
27:15>> Listen, I’ll tell you very, very simply
27:17. Well, the plans were quite interesting
27:20, because martial law is one thing.
27:23For there to be martial law, the
27:24President would have to sign off on it.
27:27And that won't work for him.
27:28That won't work for him to have a state
27:30of emergency or martial law.
27:32But the government was working on bills
27:34regarding a pre-war state.
27:36>> Exactly,
27:37>> meaning something in between,
27:40>> which would have the same repercussions
27:42, you know, as martial law, where you
27:44could impose a curfew, where you could
27:46do various other things.
27:48Only now, you know, we have the
27:50legislation again, and we could say, the
27:52President would have to be involved so
27:54he wouldn't veto that bill. And they
27:57just—I’ll tell you something else,
27:59Krzysiek, very—
28:00>> Oh right, because that bill was created
28:02some time ago. Did the President veto it
28:04or not?
28:07>> I mean, not yet, it was in the
28:08preparatory stages.
28:10It hadn't gone to the President yet.
28:12>> Aha.
28:13>> Then let's hope the President isn't an
28:15idiot and vetoes it.
28:16Mhm. I’ll tell you one more thing.
28:22Let's stop believing, Krzysiek, that
28:24things happen suddenly, because just
28:26like the unknown doctor Putin ended
28:28COVID, right, and is waiting in vain for
28:30a Nobel Prize.
28:35>> In the same way, Tusk ended the alerts.
28:39I’ll tell you—
28:40>> no, it’s not any better.
28:42Tusk ended the threat from Putin,
28:44because it's impossible that the threat
28:46is ongoing.
28:47They kept saying there was no threat at
28:49all, and he kept pushing that.
28:52Just like right now, the United States
28:54signed a deal to sell Patriots to
28:56Ukraine for the year 2030.
28:59They can sign whatever they want,
29:01because it won't actually happen. It
29:02won't happen, Krzysiek, it won't happen
29:04. Let me tell you the first thing. By
29:062000. You know, by the way, that when
29:08the United States signs a weapons
29:10contract, you have to pay them in
29:12advance.
29:13So Ukraine has already paid, but it will
29:15never come to fruition.
29:18In '30, Ukraine won't exist in the form
29:20it exists today.
29:22Let's start with why I'm talking about
29:23this. We are talking about the State
29:26Tribunal, but I want to show you one
29:28thing: in my opinion, this runs much
29:30deeper.
29:31Why did this machine start moving so
29:33fast right now?
29:36Because everyone predicted that by
29:38spring, more or less by the spring of
29:40next year, Ukraine would fall.
29:44They predicted that around December or
29:46January there would be a great offensive
29:47.
29:49Well, all sorts of tall tales were being
29:51spun.
29:51>> Ukraine has supposedly won this war at
29:54least 20 times already.
29:55>> Yes, yes.
29:57Basically, they're winning it all the
29:59time.
30:01It just reminds me of when I used to
30:02watch newsreels from the Third Reich,
30:04and they’d say in the newsreel that we
30:06are fighting, we are always fighting,
30:08and one of the Germans said: "And so we
30:10will heroically retreat all the way to
30:11Berlin," before the Red Army...and it
30:13looks roughly the same, right?
30:17But I want to tell you one more thing.
30:21Since the situation has escalated so
30:23quickly right now, you will see that
30:25Ukraine is completely on the brink.
30:29Completely. And it will capitulate. If
30:32it capitulates, then all the scams
30:33capitulate. Do you understand? The scams
30:35that were being run with Ukraine. That
30:37is the type of situation this is. And
30:39who knows, maybe it will kick the bucket
30:41even in December, or if not, then by the
30:43turn of the year. But it won't last long
30:46, no fairy tales about arms deliveries.
30:48Because
30:49>> there is no one left to fight there.
30:51>> First of all, there is no one there to
30:52fight. Secondly, the United States has
30:54pulled out of this business. Four
30:56countries like Hungary, Czechia,
30:57Slovakia, and the Netherlands said they
30:59are done with the show. It was nice,
31:01nice. It could have been even nicer,
31:03right?
31:04But they don't want to arm them and so
31:05on.
31:06This scheme and this narrative are
31:08simply collapsing.
31:11And now, if this narrative of these
31:13scams is collapsing, remember that if
31:15you look at the geopolitical side,
31:16Germany is also falling.
31:20Germany is falling hard.
31:21>> Oh yes, after all, Germany was an
31:23industrial country. Their economy stood
31:25on industry, and now all of their
31:27industry is going to hell. So why are
31:29the Germans suddenly pushing for war?
31:33Because Germany figured that their
31:34automotive plants would produce weaponry
31:36, and this weaponry would only sell if
31:38there was a war.
31:40So they figured that Ukraine would fight
31:42, they would supply Ukraine with that
31:44weaponry, and the European Union,
31:46meaning all of us, would pay for it. If
31:48there is no war, it's bankruptcy for
31:49Germany.
31:50>> Of course,
31:51>> so that’s why this is not, dear ladies
31:53and gentlemen, any kind of philanthropy
31:54. It's about the money. Money that
31:56belongs to us, but is supposed to be
31:58theirs.
31:59I agree.
32:01And that is why, in my assessment, there
32:03is an underlying issue here, because
32:05Ukraine is also involved in these events
32:07, whatever you say.
32:11I don’t mean that they have their hands
32:13in it, just the whole political
32:15situation, that everything has
32:16accelerated so much, let’s be honest.
32:21Just like the "scovid" issue fell apart
32:23, because if they had kept the "scovid"
32:25topic going a bit longer, the effect
32:26would have been that they could continue
32:29brainwashing people, but when Putin
32:30attacked, the "scovid" narrative
32:32suddenly collapsed.
32:36>> And at the present moment, the narrative
32:39regarding issues related to, you know,
32:41Ukraine, is completely falling apart.
32:44And
32:46this has a lot in common.
32:48I’m not saying that Russian agents were
32:50at the State Tribunal, of course not,
32:52because we will surely hear that soon
32:54too.
32:55>> Exactly, but you know, it’s interesting
32:57,
32:57>> that no one is saying that Russian
32:59agents were standing there.
33:00>> Well exactly, you know, there’s this
33:02supposed presumption of Putin’s guilt,
33:03but here there is no claim that it’s
33:05Putin’s fault.
33:06Does that mean Tusk has become a Russian
33:08agent? Because until now, if someone
33:11didn't repeat the narrative that Putin
33:12is absolutely to blame for everything,
33:14especially for how the Ukrainians are
33:16setting our country on fire, right?
33:19>> Well, that it’s Putin’s fault, right?
33:22>> Well, yes.
33:24So you know, so here is the issue of
33:26this type now and the question is, you
33:28see, if they take over the State
33:30Tribunal,
33:33>> then we can automatically delegalize, if
33:35you please, the president.
33:37>> Mhm. Vetoes will automatically go to the
33:40State Tribunal. Well, whatever you say,
33:42it's a communist creation, a product of
33:43communist times, I would say. What am I
33:45saying? I keep mixing up the State
33:47Tribunal with the Constitutional
33:48Tribunal. You have to forgive me,
33:49because I’m getting it all mixed up in
33:51my head. Soon they’ll write in the
33:52comments that Wójtowicz is an idiot.
33:54Well no,
33:57>> instead of writing in my comments that
33:59Wójtowicz is an idiot, write in my
34:00comments what city you are from, and
34:02then go to Wójtowicz and tell him you
34:04are from me, so there are two comments,
34:06>> so it simply balances out, because I’m
34:09damn well mixing up the State Tribunal
34:11with the Constitutional Tribunal in my
34:13head, simply put. But we have the
34:15Constitutional Tribunal, which is a
34:17product, you know, of communist times, I
34:19would say, but it is,
34:20>> it is a martial law era Tribunal.
34:24>> Of course, and it is, you know, one of
34:26the most important constitutional bodies
34:28in Poland, whatever you say, because it
34:30is an institution that can block
34:32government actions, can challenge laws
34:34passed by the parliamentary majority,
34:37and can even declare certain actions of
34:39state bodies unconstitutional.
34:42Well, no.
34:43>> Moreover.
34:46What is very important, the constitution
34:48in Poland is so damn vague that you can
34:50derive anything from it.
34:53Examples, that our money in the OFE
34:55funds isn't ours. After all, the
34:57Constitutional Tribunal rubber-stamped
34:59that for Tusk, when Tusk swiped our
35:01money further.
35:05It is an open secret that some Tuskists
35:07have figured out how to remove the
35:08president from office, that they need to
35:10declare that the reason the president
35:12isn't appointing those judges or taking
35:14their oaths isn't because he doesn't
35:15want to, but because he can't.
35:19And if he can't, it means he is
35:21incapacitated.
35:23And if he is incapacitated, he is unable
35:26to hold office, and so to remove
35:27Nawrocki from office and install
35:29President Czarzasty,
35:32>> who used to in the field, and now
35:34will in a toilet in the
35:35Presidential Palace. And for that, the
35:37Constitutional Tribunal is also needed
35:39to rubber-stamp it.
35:42Honestly, it seems to me that something
35:44like that wouldn't pass, because while I
35:46don't support President Nawrocki, I
35:48support Tusk even less.
35:50Mhm.
35:52>> And if they tried, with a president who
35:54is what he is, but at least isn't a
35:55post-communist who used to in a
35:57field and claimed the Red Army liberated
35:59Poland,
36:03>> well, if they tried to shove Czarzasty
36:05into the Presidential Palace, I would go
36:07out into the street and say, damn it,
36:09over my dead body.
36:13So I think that if Tusk tried to pull a
36:15stunt like that, there would be very,
36:17very deep unrest. That's how it seems to
36:19me.
36:19>> No, well, of course. But then you see,
36:21it's about something else entirely. It's
36:24about the fact that the entire European
36:26Union's narrative is starting to crumble
36:28, because remember that there will be
36:30elections in four countries in 2027, and
36:32here the whole narrative is starting to
36:34fall apart completely.
36:36It's not at all to the European Union's
36:38liking. And if something like that
36:40happens, besides, this situation with
36:42the Constitutional Tribunal shows
36:44smaller countries—because, among others
36:47, the president of, I think, Slovenia, I
36:49don't remember, I think it was Slovenia
36:51, nicely said, showed, and pointed out
36:54an issue in the European Union—that they
36:56first pulled circus acts with Romania,
36:58right, where there was that Georgescu
37:00guy, right, where they made an issue,
37:03arrested the guy, then banned him from
37:05running for life, then...
37:07>> and then it turned out that they weren't
37:08the only ones participating in it.
37:10>> Yes, things of that nature were
37:12happening. Then they take on Poland,
37:14right?
37:15And now you know, what about the smaller
37:17states, right?
37:19What to say about the smaller states in
37:21this whole ridiculous Union.
37:25It's a colossus on clay feet and it's
37:27slowly starting to, you know, crumble,
37:29so the whole narrative is falling apart
37:32here.
37:35That's why everything is accelerating,
37:37because it has to, to block any
37:39possibility of elections until 2027.
37:42In other countries, you have things
37:44happening in France too, right? Of
37:46course, Russian agents are running
37:48around in the streets.
37:49>> Just Russian agents everywhere.
37:51>> Exactly. So,
37:55>> but you know what, speaking of these
37:57Russian agents, let me tell you, I'm
37:58worried about my daughter, you know,
38:00seriously,
38:04>> because I recently happened to eat her
38:06chocolate, you know,
38:07>> and I tried to convince her that Putin
38:09ate it,
38:10>> and she didn't believe me. I suspect she
38:12might be a Russian agent too.
38:14>> That's quite possible. I would look into
38:16that.
38:17>> But you know what else she told me? That
38:19you have to be an idiot to believe that
38:20Putin was the one who scarfed down that
38:22chocolate. Of course she didn't use the
38:24word "scarfed," because she's a polite
38:25little girl, she used the word "ate."
38:27Yes.
38:28>> And she says you have to be very
38:30unintelligent to believe that everything
38:31is Putin's fault.
38:33And look, Tusk's voters believe it, and
38:35Left voters believe it, and a large part
38:37of PiS voters believe it.
38:40That would mean the majority of Polish
38:42society is less intelligent than a
38:44nine-year-old.
38:46But of course,
38:46>> maybe my daughter should be in charge
38:48instead of these people.
38:49>> Well, obviously,
38:50>> because she doesn't fall for it.
38:53>> Listen, let me tell you, there are
38:55actually a few points in the
38:56constitution that speak quite
38:58interestingly about the Constitutional
39:00Tribunal.
39:02I'm mainly talking about article 188,
39:06>> because points one, two, three, I think
39:08up to five, five points of the
39:10constitution, state that the Tribunal
39:12can actually rule whether a law is
39:14unconstitutional, that it examines the
39:16compliance of laws with ratified
39:18international agreements.
39:20So you know, here it's about, let's say
39:22, if we were to make a ratification
39:24agreement with Germany stating that we
39:26are a state, then of course the Tribunal
39:28could support that too, right?
39:30Yes, of course,
39:32>> that it controls regulations issued by
39:34central state bodies, that it hears
39:36constitutional complaints, that it
39:38resolves competence disputes, for
39:39example.
39:43There's a lot of that, so the whole
39:45issue of taking over power by...I'm
39:47absolutely not defending this, you know
39:49, Krzysiek, because both PiS and the
39:51Platform did idiotic things, since PiS
39:53stuffed the Tribunal with their people
39:54and the others did the same.
40:00Actually, the situation is such that I
40:02believe the constitution states—I don't
40:04want to overstate it—that there should
40:06be a certain number of judges in the
40:08Constitutional Tribunal, whether it's 12
40:10or 15, I don't remember exactly.
40:12And there are already more of them now.
40:14So the Tribunal itself is already
40:15unconstitutional. The Constitutional
40:17Tribunal is unconstitutional because
40:19there are more judges pushed in than the
40:20constitution provides for.
40:22>> While one side doesn't recognize some of
40:24the judges, and the other side doesn't
40:26recognize the others.
40:28I’ll tell you honestly, it kind of
40:30scares me, you know? Because you know, I
40:32happened to have,
40:32>> you know?
40:36Because I had this nightmare today,
40:38Krzysiek, that let’s assume the
40:39president says that on the third—which
40:41would be tomorrow—he announces he will
40:43take power in Poland and will try to
40:45lead everything himself.
40:50So it's interesting what will happen
40:51tomorrow, because if he comes out and
40:53says he’s calling for a referendum to
40:55dismiss the government, they will
40:56immediately say they don’t recognize
40:58this president and they won’t leave the
41:00parliament.
41:01>> But here's a better one.
41:03For the president to call a referendum,
41:05do you know who has to agree?
41:06>> The Sejm.
41:07>> The Senate, it’s the same thing, because
41:09the same political faction controls the
41:11parliament.
41:12>> But you know what? I'll tell you this:
41:13I’ve made many mistakes in my life.
41:15Among others, I got a completely
41:17unnecessary formal education.
41:20If I had known I’d be doing what I’m
41:22doing in life, I would have just gone
41:24out and had fun after high school
41:25instead of studying.
41:28However, it so happens I finished law
41:30school, and at the University of Warsaw
41:32at that.
41:33I was taught constitutional law by Dr.
41:35Piotrowski, who is now Professor
41:37Piotrowski, that eminent
41:38constitutionalist—in my opinion, the
41:41only right one.
41:42>> Oh, Piotrowski. Yes, yes,
41:44>> yeah, yeah. He’s a very smart guy, right
41:46?
41:47>> And I generally went to his tutorials, I
41:49got an A from him, and I understood what
41:51he was saying because he has this way of
41:53speaking that even an idiot like me.
41:56can understand, right? Strangely, Tusk
41:58doesn't want to understand what
42:00Professor Piotrowski is saying, right?
42:03And because I’ve had a taste of that law
42:04, right?
42:06I understand what is happening.
42:09Imagine a situation where we have one
42:11Constitutional Tribunal recognized by
42:13PiS, and another recognized by the "
42:15smilers."
42:18>> One side will rule that a law is
42:19constitutional, the other that it is not
42:21.
42:23>> And in the middle, there are the people
42:25, right?
42:27Let’s assume we have a law that says, I
42:29don't know, introducing a law on
42:31property confiscation for the sake of
42:33the war in Ukraine.
42:36Damn, in Ukraine, in Ukraine those
42:38idiots are capable of doing something
42:40like that, right?
42:42And one tribunal will say it's
42:44constitutional, the other will say it’s
42:46unconstitutional, and they'll come to
42:48confiscate your car, for example, so the
42:50Ukrainians have more cars to haul bribe
42:52money across the border, right?
42:55And now, you say it's unconstitutional
42:57because that tribunal says so, but they
42:59tell you: "We recognize the other
43:01tribunal, so hand over the cash," and
43:03then you start to defend yourself. And
43:05at that point, it’s a question of
43:07whether you were defending yourself
43:08against an unlawful attack or if you
43:09murdered a police officer. You know,
43:11these are the kinds of curiosities,
43:13right?
43:15The Constitutional Tribunal has the
43:16ability to check not only new laws
43:18against the constitution at the moment
43:20they come into force to block them.
43:23It can also check if regulations passed
43:25a zillion years ago are constitutional.
43:29After all, not so long ago, the
43:31Constitutional Tribunal removed the
43:33grounds for abortion regarding permanent
43:35fetal damage, right?
43:41So, that anti-abortion law, that's what
43:43it's called, it had been around for a
43:45gazillion years, and they suddenly
43:47decided it was unconstitutional, so
43:49theoretically, they could decide that
43:50absolutely everything is
43:52unconstitutional.
43:56I think 15 members of parliament are
43:57enough to start the process. Really?
44:00Well, 15 members of parliament—even I
44:02could find 15 members. I’ll promise them
44:04I’ll talk about them on the podcast.
44:07I'll invite them for interviews and I'll
44:09find 15, and in a moment, we could
44:11declare that the tax law, the tax
44:13ordinance, is unconstitutional. Well, I
44:15would like that, you know. So, contrary
44:17to appearances, this is very, very
44:19important. And the last thing, listen,
44:21these are judges.
44:23Yes, they decide our lives.
44:25If they behave like thugs, because for
44:28me, the option where someone grabs the
44:30president by the lapels...The president
44:32says: "Excuse me, ma'am," and she says:
44:34"You're not coming in here."
44:38You know, damn, for me, you know, I'm
44:40just a regular boor from YouTube, right
44:42?
44:44But for me, it is completely
44:45unacceptable to address the president so
44:47rudely.
44:49This isn't some buddy from the pub with
44:50a beer,
44:51>> this is Mr. President.
44:54>> And I might not have an ounce of respect
44:56for Karol Nawrocki, but for the
44:57president,
44:59>> you have to have respect.
45:00And he wasn't going there as Karol
45:02Nawrocki, he was going there as the
45:04president.
45:05>> Well, yeah.
45:06>> Mr. President.
45:07How can one even address the president
45:09so arrogantly and rudely?
45:11You're not coming in here. No, but
45:13secondly, how can you go at the
45:14president with your hands?
45:16How can you block the president from
45:18entering a state institution?
45:22Damn it, this isn't just some nobody,
45:24this isn't some post-communist
45:26in a field, this is the president, and
45:28someone like that is supposed to hand
45:30down judgments now—what moral right do
45:32they have?
45:34In a moment, our entire system will
45:36collapse, because the whole system is
45:38based on authority.
45:41And I see here, and millions of people
45:43see, that these people have less
45:45authority than, I don't know, the
45:46security guard at my daughter's school,
45:48because the security guard at my
45:50daughter's school doesn't act like a
45:52common boor and philistine, so he has
45:53more authority.
45:56I respect him more, you know?
45:58And then people, when people won't
46:00execute
46:03or respect judgments, there will be
46:05constant tragedy.
46:07You and I are lucky that we haven't
46:08divorced our wives, right?
46:11So it doesn't concern us, but most guys
46:13are affected by so-called parental
46:15alienation.
46:17There is a judgment that a dad can take
46:18care of the child from time to time, and
46:20the wife says: "I don't give a damn
46:22about this judgment, I won't respect it
46:24."
46:25And from that, there are terrible life
46:27tragedies.
46:29So it seems to me that the problem here
46:30is even deeper than this fight.
46:34The problem is that in a moment the
46:35whole system will fall apart because
46:37people will start questioning it.
46:39And what will happen next? Maybe we'll
46:41start questioning property rights next,
46:45>> and you know, some guy will walk into my
46:47house and say: "I live here now, because
46:49, because I said so, because you're a
46:51Russian agent."
46:52That is, after all, the perfect argument
46:54in any situation, isn't it?
46:56>> Well, yes. Well, you know, in Spain it's
46:58already coming to that, right? But you
47:00asked whether Tusk will go further, and
47:02it seems to me that he doesn't have the
47:04option.
47:05The fact that even the president says: "
47:07Back out of this."
47:08>> Listen, I'm listening to you, I just
47:10have to take a call. Okay,
47:12>> so back out of this. That, you know, is
47:15a good thing.
47:18Just, you know, let's not forget that
47:20after such a mess, if it comes to the
47:22point where German police, let's assume
47:25German police generally are in Poland,
47:27and let's just wait until the German
47:29police start beating Poles too, because
47:31let's wait for that too.
47:36So listen, I doubt he could back out,
47:39I'll tell you honestly.
47:42Because you could then apply it just
47:44like sometimes: well, instead of burning
47:46you, as an act of mercy you will be
47:48beheaded, right, just like beheading was
47:51sometimes simply an act of mercy, right
47:53.
47:55But you know, but, but, I just don't
47:57believe that, that, you know, we'll just
48:00say sorry and go on to the elections, no
48:02, not after such a stunt.
48:05Because if they went that far, it means
48:08that they, if the police came from
48:09Germany, then they must, they must have
48:12support.
48:13Then at this moment, the European Union
48:15already cares about this and it's just
48:18tearing them apart.
48:19The point is that history is moving, to
48:22be honest, faster and faster.
48:25It's not without reason that I brought
48:27up the example of Ukraine here, but it's
48:29all a matter of connected vessels.
48:31Ukraine is crumbling, Ukraine will fall
48:34faster than people thought. And if
48:36Ukraine falls faster than people thought
48:38, then Germany has a serious problem.
48:40Germany has a serious problem. The only
48:43way for Germany not to have this problem
48:45is to have collateral.
48:47Talk about the fact that these EU states
48:49gave their gold to a bank, for example,
48:52in Frankfurt. And so what? Italy said
48:54they want that gold back because the
48:56gold is the property of the citizens.
48:58They still haven't received it and
48:59haven't gotten it back. By joining the
49:01Eurozone, right?
49:02>> Yes.
49:03>> Let's remember that.
49:03>> I absolutely don't want Polish gold to
49:05be handed over to the European Union.
49:07Why? Is it my gold?
49:09>> Well, exactly. That's why, you know, the
49:11situation here is of this type. We
49:13already deposited it once in England, in
49:15London, such tricks already happened,
49:17but oh, Poles are stupid and so on.
49:20They weren't and
49:22>> But you know, back then the British
49:23robbed us, and here we would just be
49:25giving this gold to the European Union.
49:28Yes, not in the sense of at their
49:29disposal, but as property.
49:32Listen, in 9 minutes, I'm sorry, I will
49:34have to either stop, because we won't
49:36finish.
49:37>> My wife, an ambulance is bringing my
49:39wife to the apartment block and I have
49:41to pick her up. My wife had a small
49:43accident, but she'll be fine, she just
49:46needs to, and I have to carry her
49:48upstairs, or rather with a wheelchair,
49:50just so you know.
49:52Listen, she's really fine.
49:55This is more, more for the viewers. It's
49:57just that at a certain point, you start
50:00getting sick by the hundreds, not tens,
50:0220, 30.
50:04>> Well, those are the vibes.
50:07Listen,
50:10but you see, because the situation here
50:12doesn't look too good, because on one
50:14hand I have the impression that the
50:15Polish police don't really want to
50:17support Tusk, on the other hand, as you
50:19said, they have the support of Germany.
50:22On the third hand, things are brewing in
50:24Germany too, so
50:28I am very afraid. Do you know what I'm
50:30afraid of? I mean, afraid, I am prepared
50:32for it. But
50:33>> The thing is, Krzysiek, that if Germany
50:35is going down, then Germany must drag
50:37Poland down with it.
50:39It cannot be that Germany goes down,
50:41while Poland stands higher in every
50:43respect: economic, military, and many
50:45others, because then we'd be in deep
50:47trouble.
50:48No.
50:49>> Well, yes. They won't agree to that.
50:53But the question is, I mean, I think he
50:55might move toward a situation where he
50:56stages some provocation, says we've been
50:58attacked by the Russians, and declares
51:00martial law, essentially scaring us so
51:02that we stop talking about the
51:04Constitutional Tribunal.
51:07Like you know, just recently there was
51:09the Kołozieczak scandal.
51:10You have to do something, just like you
51:12know, you have to come up with something
51:14, just to overshadow that topic, right?
51:18>> Exactly. Exactly. But what do you think
51:21he'll do, martial law, a state of
51:23emergency, or...
51:24>> Well, for martial law or a state of
51:25emergency to happen, you need the
51:27president's consent, and...
51:28>> That won't happen, but maybe a
51:29quasi-martial law...
51:32>> But, well, in that, just a pre-war state
51:34, tell me, based on that principle, to
51:36get to this topic, and that's why the
51:38game right now is about the tribunal.
51:43>> Because they are aware that if push
51:45comes to shove, there will be vetoes and
51:47, damn, it won't work, no.
51:50>> So what is it then?
51:51>> He won't back down from the tribunal.
51:53He won't back down, because you have a
51:55choice: either you topple the president
51:57, or you topple the tribunal. In the
51:59case where you topple the tribunal, for
52:01example by taking it over, you kill two
52:02birds with one stone, because you have
52:04the tribunal and you can take the
52:06president immediately,
52:08>> dethrone him, let's call it, right?
52:11>> But then the Americans also come into
52:13play, who didn't demand for Nawrocki to
52:15be president just to let him be toppled
52:17now.
52:19I agree with you on that.
52:21But also remember that Trump has his own
52:23troubles right now.
52:24>> That's true.
52:25>> Trump has his own troubles right now.
52:28>> The situation, the situation is moving
52:30too fast. Even Trump didn't dream of
52:32this.
52:33>> Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's a topic for a
52:36whole separate piece, actually, that
52:38there might soon be a war in the Persian
52:40Gulf.
52:40Mhm.
52:43>> That's why we record these materials now
52:45on the same day we release them, because
52:47we're afraid that by the next day, it'll
52:49be too late; we'll be here talking about
52:51whether Tusk will declare martial law or
52:53not, and then, damn, he did it an hour
52:55ago.
52:57Then the material goes in the trash,
52:59right?
53:00>> So, the situation is extremely dynamic.
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