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1. 0:00Nacar International Transport presents
2. 0:02the news analysis program with Tolga
3. 0:04Turan.
4. 0:05>> US journalist Tucker Carlson has claimed
5. 0:07that the US could launch a nuclear
6. 0:09strike on Iran within a few days under
7. 0:11pressure from Israeli Prime Minister
8. 0:12Netanyahu.
9. 0:13What are your thoughts on this?
10. 0:15>> It is significant that a figure close to
11. 0:16intelligence circles, like Tucker
12. 0:18Carlson, is putting forward this claim.
13. 0:19I believe there is a rift among the
14. 0:21decision-makers in Washington here. This
15. 0:24is a case of a controlled leak.
16. 0:26>> Could this have something to do with the
17. 0:28midterm elections happening tomorrow in
18. 0:30America?
19. 0:31>> Yes, it is related to that. The
20. 0:33continuation of the Iran War has created
21. 0:34a very serious backlash within US public
22. 0:36opinion. Why? Because oil prices have
23. 0:38increased by 50 percent.
24. 0:41The fact that the United States cannot
25. 0:42maintain clear control in the Strait of
26. 0:44Hormuz is pushing the Gulf countries,
27. 0:46which are on the side of the US, to seek
28. 0:48other alliances, and it slowly shows us
29. 0:50that the United States 'power in the
30. 0:51Middle East is melting away.
31. 0:53Because, for example, the Americans
32. 0:55tried to land on an island in the Strait
33. 0:56of Hormuz. What happened? They ran away
34. 0:58as fast as they could. Iran responded
35. 0:59very harshly there, and Trump has these
36. 1:01elections coming up now. I mean, his
37. 1:02approval rating in public opinion has
38. 1:03dropped significantly. It is at the 31
39. 1:05percent level. Accordingly, he aims to
40. 1:07get through these midterm elections as
41. 1:09soon as possible and then go after Iran
42. 1:11. That is why he is waiting for the
43. 1:12midterm elections. Actually, to tell the
44. 1:14truth, the American public does not want
45. 1:15this war with Iran.
46. 1:16>> Do you think the result from the ballot
47. 1:18box will really affect the war with Iran
48. 1:20? Because it is known that neither party
49. 1:22has any discomfort regarding the use of
50. 1:23nuclear weapons.
51. 1:24>> Political decisions made in the US are
52. 1:26directly related to the decisions made
53. 1:28by the voters at home, and in fact, the
54. 1:30American public ended the Vietnam War to
55. 1:32some extent. When we look back at the
56. 1:34past, one of the reasons for America's
57. 1:35withdrawal from Afghanistan was the
58. 1:37pressure of American public opinion.
59. 1:38Triggering this war before the election
60. 1:40, that is, if a nuclear weapon is to be
61. 1:42used, doing so right before the election
62. 1:44, what will it do with a global shock?
63. 1:46It will directly reflect back on
64. 1:48gasoline prices, and perhaps for the
65. 1:49first time in history in the United
66. 1:51States, gas prices will skyrocket to the
67. 1:53100 or even 200 percent band. Because,
68. 1:54son, it is not easy; you are talking
69. 1:56about dropping a nuclear bomb on this
70. 1:57country. We are not talking about
71. 1:58carrying out a military operation or
72. 1:59something. Accordingly, it makes more
73. 2:01sense to do this after the election
74. 2:02rather than before. Because, you know,
75. 2:04after the election, a "lame duck"
76. 2:06situation begins anyway. The polls are
77. 2:07closed. This way, the public's reaction
78. 2:10is delayed for a while. That is why
79. 2:12Trump thinks, let's get the elections
80. 2:13over with, and whatever we are going to
81. 2:14do, let's do it after the elections.
82. 2:16Because if we do it before the elections
83. 2:17, we will face the bill for it during
84. 2:19the elections. But what happens if we do
85. 2:21it after the elections?
86. 2:22He may be thinking there won't be an
87. 2:24election left to face.
88. 2:25>> The tunnels in the Yaralar Kazma
89. 2:27Mountains, south of Iran's Natanz region
90. 2:29, are being discussed. The possibility
91. 2:30of a nuclear strike on this location is
92. 2:32also on the table. What is known about
93. 2:33the technical and military structure of
94. 2:35this complex? What is being said about
95. 2:36what is inside these tunnels?
96. 2:37>> As far as I know, the deepest
97. 2:39bunker-busting bomb the United States
98. 2:41has is about 40 meters. So even if you
99. 2:42drop a thermobaric bomb or something
100. 2:44there, it's no use, man. It is 60 meters
101. 2:45underground. There is a bunker there
102. 2:47belonging to Iran, but this bunker isn't
103. 2:49really that interesting for Iran.
104. 2:51Because Iran consists of a very
105. 2:52mountainous geography, they actually
106. 2:53have many such underground facilities,
107. 2:55which they were already constantly
108. 2:56showing on their Twitter accounts and
109. 2:58such.
110. 2:59They were filming things, entering those
111. 3:01bunkers, and showing footage from them,
112. 3:02saying, "We are coming, we will take
113. 3:04revenge," and so on. However, the United
114. 3:06States is specifically pointing to this
115. 3:08bunker as a target. What happened in the
116. 3:09previous attack? The facility where Iran
117. 3:12conducts uranium enrichment activities
118. 3:14was hit.
119. 3:14>> By the way, Israel's claim for this
120. 3:16facility is also that they are
121. 3:18conducting uranium enrichment there.
122. 3:20>> Exactly. Because the perimeter of the
123. 3:22facility has been fortified with
124. 3:23concrete walls. It is said from
125. 3:25satellite imagery that there is very
126. 3:27intense activity and so on. Based on
127. 3:28this, they say, "We will strike this
128. 3:29place." With what will they strike it?
129. 3:31With a nuclear bomb. Why will they
130. 3:33strike it with a tactical nuclear bomb?
131. 3:34Because it is 60 meters underground, and
132. 3:36the United States says they can only
133. 3:37reach 40 meters with conventional
134. 3:39weapons. But will a tactical nuclear
135. 3:41bomb really be able to reach 60 meters?
136. 3:43I mean, I don't know that either. I am
137. 3:44not sure about that. I mean, I don't
138. 3:46even know what kind of bomb they will
139. 3:47use. What is the class of that tactical
140. 3:49nuclear bomb? Nobody knows, but they are
141. 3:51using this as the reason.
142. 3:52>> Well, do you think the US wouldn't
143. 3:54consider a ground operation before
144. 3:55resorting to nuclear? Now, Iran is not a
145. 3:57place like Iraq, nor is it like
146. 3:58Afghanistan. Yes, okay, it has a
147. 4:00mountainous geography like Afghanistan,
148. 4:01but Iran has a very serious ground army
149. 4:03. So, instead of encountering militia
150. 4:05forces like the Taliban, you would face
151. 4:07a proper regular army in that
152. 4:09mountainous terrain. If you carry out a
153. 4:10ground operation there. That's one.
154. 4:12Secondly, what did the United States
155. 4:14actually do in Iraq? Before going after
156. 4:16Saddam, they had already dismantled the
157. 4:18political structure by using the
158. 4:20Kasnazani order or by buying off
159. 4:21Saddam's generals. But they couldn't do
160. 4:23this in Iran. They killed the leader,
161. 4:25right? They killed Soleimani. Did it
162. 4:26work? Still didn't work. Or they were
163. 4:28expecting something like, just as in
164. 4:30Russia, there would be an uprising
165. 4:32within Iran. A civil riot would break
166. 4:33out. The regime would be overthrown. We
167. 4:35imposed sanctions. We attacked
168. 4:36repeatedly. Did it work? Still didn't
169. 4:38work. When that didn't work, this time
170. 4:40they said, just like they used the PKK
171. 4:41in Turkey and Syria. We will use PJAK
172. 4:43there too. In this way, we will stir up
173. 4:45the inside of the country. Iran took
174. 4:46precautions early and bombed PJAK. The
175. 4:48Iranian regime devastated PJAK. That
176. 4:50didn't work either. In the end, it seems
177. 4:52they have come to the nuclear bomb
178. 4:54option. Which means Netanyahu also has a
179. 4:56share in this. We will come to that too
180. 4:58. We need to talk about that as well.
181. 4:59This is not just Trump's thing. I mean
182. 5:01>> that was one of the questions too. Is
183. 5:03Netanyahu a party to this war, or is he
184. 5:05the instigator? We need to read that
185. 5:07situation correctly.
186. 5:08>> Both, they are both a party and an
187. 5:10instigator.
188. 5:11>> In fact, it is thought that he is
189. 5:13putting more intense pressure on Trump
190. 5:14during this period. It is said that he
191. 5:16is even angry.
192. 5:17>> According to American journalists, he
193. 5:18calls every day. Asking when are you
194. 5:20going to drop it, when are you going to
195. 5:21drop it. It’s like a joke, seriously.
196. 5:22Look, imagine it’s 2026, one head of
197. 5:24state calls another. "So, are you
198. 5:26dropping the nuke?""Are you dropping it
199. 5:27, man, are you dropping the nuke?" and
200. 5:29keeps pestering the American president.
201. 5:30"That's so weird, man, okay, we'll drop
202. 5:32it." Did a situation like "to hell with
203. 5:34the nuclear bomb" actually happen, I
204. 5:36wonder? If such a situation occurred, I
205. 5:38would have wanted to be a fly on the
206. 5:39wall. I mean, it's both terrifying and
207. 5:41ironic.
208. 5:41>> I would have loved to witness that.
209. 5:43>> By the way, Netanyahu is also in
210. 5:44political trouble, and in fact,
211. 5:45Netanyahu could even be considered a
212. 5:47sort of coup plotter. There was Yitzhak
213. 5:48Rabin, who advocated for softening the
214. 5:50stance against the Intifada. The Israeli
215. 5:51Prime Minister played a role in his
216. 5:53killing, in his assassination—I
217. 5:55explained these assassinations in my "
218. 5:57Why Did the Arabs Lose" video. It’s on
219. 5:59the main channel; you can watch that
220. 6:00video. He's in trouble right now, and if
221. 6:02he falls from power, the guy will be put
222. 6:03on trial; there’s also a corruption
223. 6:05investigation against him. He couldn't
224. 6:06secure a majority
225. 6:07>> at the moment. Yes. They couldn't form a
226. 6:09government yet either.
227. 6:10>> That’s why the war continues; there’s
228. 6:11nothing else to be done. He has no other
229. 6:12option left when it comes to domestic
230. 6:14politics. Another issue is this. I mean
231. 6:16, is there really a uranium enrichment
232. 6:18facility inside the mountains? I mean,
233. 6:20is there any proof of this? Definitive,
234. 6:21clear proof. I haven't seen it. Maybe it
235. 6:23doesn't exist. Maybe it does. I don’t
236. 6:25want this to turn into that other thing
237. 6:25. That’s what I’m afraid of. They said
238. 6:27Saddam had weapons of mass destruction,
239. 6:28right? Colin Powell came out and spoke
240. 6:30like that. Nice, nice, but Saddam didn't
241. 6:32have any such thing. Subsequently, that
242. 6:34came to light. They were saying Saddam
243. 6:36had nuclear weapons and such. Turns out
244. 6:38he didn't.
245. 6:38>> They state that international inspectors
246. 6:40cannot enter the region they mention.
247. 6:42They also state that no imaging can be
248. 6:44done regarding that place.
249. 6:46Well, this is of course based on a
250. 6:47prediction, but it is also observed that
251. 6:49there is a lot of activity in the region
252. 6:50.
253. 6:51>> It could be an important military base.
254. 6:53Sure, fair enough. But all these things
255. 6:54mentioned are not definitive proof of
256. 6:56uranium enrichment activity. I mean, we
257. 6:58can't know that.
258. 6:59>> So, how did the return of the atomic
259. 7:01bomb to the agenda, 80 years after World
260. 7:03War II, resonate in the world? When we
261. 7:05look at it, this is actually a global
262. 7:07security issue. How do world states
263. 7:09approach this?
264. 7:10>> People are constantly in this "alright"
265. 7:11mode, you know? They will never drop it
266. 7:13. Now there is the issue of the balance
267. 7:14of terror left over from the Cold War.
268. 7:16They argue that this is still valid. But
269. 7:19friends, we are now in a multipolar
270. 7:20world, and leaders and states will not
271. 7:22necessarily act rationally until the
272. 7:24very end. If a state faces an
273. 7:26existential threat, it will use that
274. 7:27weapon.
275. 7:28I mean, furthermore, there is also this
276. 7:30. Now, when we look at Russia and
277. 7:32Ukraine, Russia got stuck in the
278. 7:34Russia-Ukraine war. Look, they were
279. 7:35expecting the same thing again. What
280. 7:36were they saying when the Russia-Ukraine
281. 7:38war first broke out? "There will be an
282. 7:39internal uprising.""They will overthrow
283. 7:41Putin," and so on. Nothing like that
284. 7:42happened. "We will impose embargoes.""
285. 7:44Russia will break economically." No, it
286. 7:46didn't break. In fact, for a time,
287. 7:47Europe was getting pumped up. "Should we
288. 7:48join in, too?""Should we send volunteers
289. 7:50besides military aid?" Should we also
290. 7:51fight against the Russians? Dictator
291. 7:53Putin. What did Putin stand up and say?
292. 7:55He said we know we cannot defeat NATO
293. 7:56conventionally. I mean, we can't defeat
294. 7:58NATO, that's true. But he said, we don't
295. 7:59have any need for a world where Russia
296. 8:00doesn't exist either. I even debated
297. 8:02this with journalists on Twitter Spaces
298. 8:04back then. They were talking like this.
299. 8:05Putin is an enemy of humanity, a clown,
300. 8:07a guy who shouldn't be taken seriously.
301. 8:09A dirty dictator, blah, blah, blah. Guys
302. 8:10, I said, you say that, but the man has
303. 8:12over 4,000 nuclear warheads. I mean, I
304. 8:13take this man seriously. I take this
305. 8:15statement of his seriously as well.
306. 8:16Subsequently, Putin said this. What
307. 8:17happened? They immediately took a step
308. 8:19back. At least, there was a step back
309. 8:21regarding sending volunteer soldiers and
310. 8:22such. Now, you move to the other side.
311. 8:24China is locked in like an animal. It is
312. 8:26surrounded, and you are going to prepare
313. 8:27a video about this anyway. You'll
314. 8:29prepare a video about China's naval
315. 8:30power specifically, but guys, by the way
316. 8:31, why aren't you watching Fatma? It's
317. 8:33shameful, isn't it? You keep writing in
318. 8:35the comments. Where is Tog? I'm right
319. 8:37here, but buddies, I can't be cloned. I
320. 8:38can't be in every video; besides,
321. 8:40Fatma's writing, journalism, and
322. 8:42storytelling are quite good. You are
323. 8:44aware of this, but I guess there's some
324. 8:45annoyance because I'm not there. She is
325. 8:47also a part of our team. Please watch
326. 8:49her too and don't write such things.
327. 8:51It's very shameful, man. I'll say that
328. 8:52in advance. Let me continue.
329. 8:54>> I was actually going to get to this. Now
330. 8:55, if we expect a counter-move from China
331. 8:57or Russia following a nuclear bomb
332. 8:59dropped on Iran, does this imply
333. 9:01something?
334. 9:02Actually, can we say that World War III
335. 9:04is now inevitably at our doorstep? Well
336. 9:06, I think that's the case. I think the
337. 9:08probability is very high. And I had made
338. 9:10a video on this subject from Osman
339. 9:11Pamukoğlu's book. Because there is also
340. 9:13a situation like this. People always
341. 9:14look at Russia and China as an alliance
342. 9:15, but they aren't. Part of the Russian
343. 9:17army is also on the Chinese border, and
344. 9:18this hostility is historical; even when
345. 9:20the Soviet Union existed, the Soviets
346. 9:22and China had already confronted each
347. 9:23other in the 60s and 70s. They even had
348. 9:25small border skirmishes after a certain
349. 9:27point. Trump's plan to reconcile with
350. 9:29China by pressuring Zelensky there
351. 9:30didn't work. Well, it didn't happen, or
352. 9:32rather, it seems it hasn't happened. I
353. 9:33don't know what will happen in the
354. 9:34future. Things are going to get messy,
355. 9:35too. Now, there is also this. As a great
356. 9:37power, because the United States is no
357. 9:39longer the sole superpower. If you stand
358. 9:40up and try to solve the Iran problem in
359. 9:42foreign policy—even if tactically—
360. 9:43because you're stuck there. I mean, if
361. 9:45you try to solve a problem you're stuck
362. 9:46in with nuclear weapons, then Russia
363. 9:48will say, "Then I'll try to solve the
364. 9:49Ukraine problem with nuclear weapons,
365. 9:51even if just tactically." China would
366. 9:53say the same thing for Taiwan. So this
367. 9:54encourages China and Russia regarding
368. 9:56the use of nuclear weapons.
369. 9:59It could even embolden Pakistan against
370. 10:00India, and it's obvious that America is
371. 10:02losing power; what did the Gulf
372. 10:04countries do? They formed an alternative
373. 10:06defense pact with Turkey through the
374. 10:08Mecca agreement and so on. In that power
375. 10:11vacuum, anyone can do anything. Because
376. 10:13we are entering an era in international
377. 10:15relations where everyone is more or less
378. 10:17on their own. We are entering a more
379. 10:18realist period now, aren't we? I mean,
380. 10:20the constructivist era in international
381. 10:22relations is over.
382. 10:23>> So, turning to Iran, how much would our
383. 10:25country be affected by a nuclear attack
384. 10:27on Türkiye's neighbor?
385. 10:29Because we are not talking about a very
386. 10:31long distance as the crow flies.
387. 10:32>> I can say this. How was the Black Sea
388. 10:34affected when Chernobyl happened?
389. 10:35Multiply that by three. Why multiply by
390. 10:37three? A nuclear bomb is being dropped
391. 10:38directly. Just on the other side of
392. 10:40Türkiye's border. And of course, its
393. 10:42effects will reach us via wind and rain
394. 10:44. I mean, this is not that difficult to
395. 10:45grasp. I also want to say this. We are
396. 10:47facing a much bigger danger long before
397. 10:50that. And that is the refugees. Imagine
398. 10:52an army of Iranian refugees reaching the
399. 10:55Turkish border. There is even a danger
400. 10:57for Azerbaijan right before this. I mean
401. 10:58, an army of refugees will flock there
402. 11:00too.
403. 11:01>> There is also such a dilemma there. At
404. 11:02this point, Türkiye is both a NATO
405. 11:04country and a neighbor to Iran. So it is
406. 11:07squeezed from both sides. Well, what
407. 11:09position will Türkiye be in at this
408. 11:11point?
409. 11:11>> As a NATO member country, it has to
410. 11:13stack all its air defense systems on the
411. 11:15border. It has to pile up whatever it
412. 11:17has on the border.
413. 11:18Besides, in such a situation, the
414. 11:20chatter from human rights defenders
415. 11:21about "let immigrants come, they are
416. 11:23humans too" will collapse. Because there
417. 11:25is a nuclear bomb dropped in the middle
418. 11:27of it all. Are you guys crazy? I mean,
419. 11:29that means losing control of your border
420. 11:30there. It means Iran infiltrating and
421. 11:32starting rear-guard terrorist activities
422. 11:35inside your country. When that nuclear
423. 11:36bomb is dropped, things will go
424. 11:38completely haywire. Like in Hearts of
425. 11:40Iron 4—which, by the way, I don't play,
426. 11:41I'm boycotting Paradox games. Anyway, we
427. 11:43put that aside. Ever since that
428. 11:45unfortunate incident where they talked
429. 11:46nonsense about Atatürk. The world's
430. 11:48tension was rising like this. This one
431. 11:50declares war on that one. That one
432. 11:51declares war on this one. Exactly like
433. 11:52that. So, because the world's tension
434. 11:54will skyrocket at once, you have no
435. 11:55chance of losing control of that border
436. 11:57, especially your eastern border. And
437. 11:59you are already dealing with the PKK on
438. 12:00your southern border. Türkiye needs to
439. 12:01immediately fill its entire eastern
440. 12:03border with reinforcements in such a
441. 12:04situation.
442. 12:06>> Since last October, many governments
443. 12:08around the world have launched campaigns
444. 12:10to prepare citizens for a nuclear threat
445. 12:13or a natural disaster.
446. 12:15In fact, we prepared a documentary about
447. 12:17this recently.
448. 12:18At this point, as citizens, if such a
449. 12:20possibility occurs or if it's certain
450. 12:22that a nuclear strike is coming.
451. 12:24What can we do as citizens?
452. 12:27>> I am definitely not a survival expert.
453. 12:28But according to what is said, stock up
454. 12:30on plenty of food. Return to analog
455. 12:31systems. Have a radio. At the very least
456. 12:34, if you don't have a radio, have
457. 12:35walkie-talkies so that family members
458. 12:37can communicate easily with each other.
459. 12:38By the way, even though I'm not a civil
460. 12:40engineer, I know this much. You know,
461. 12:42there is a law according to building
462. 12:43inspection rules that states it's
463. 12:45mandatory to build a shelter after a
464. 12:46certain number of apartments, right?
465. 12:47Friends, to what extent would a shelter
466. 12:49you build under a structural
467. 12:50architectural design be effective? Did
468. 12:52you get hit by a nuke? Okay? The
469. 12:54structural architecture collapses
470. 12:55downwards. When the building collapses
471. 12:56on top of the shelter, aren't you
472. 12:58essentially putting yourself in a coffin
473. 13:00? There is also such a situation. When
474. 13:02we looked at the assembly areas, it came
475. 13:03to light when the earthquake happened.
476. 13:05Pretty much all the assembly areas had
477. 13:06either become buildings or something
478. 13:08else. In the '99 earthquake, there were
479. 13:10containers placed there for disasters.
480. 13:12Defense officials were supposed to go,
481. 13:14open them, and distribute supplies to
482. 13:16the public. The insides of those
483. 13:18containers had long been emptied, sold,
484. 13:20or lost. I mean, it's not clear where
485. 13:22they went. If they updated them, then
486. 13:23good. I don't know the current situation
487. 13:25, but there were news reports that new
488. 13:27shelters were being built in Turkey.
489. 13:29However, I still don't think Turkey is
490. 13:30sufficiently prepared for a nuclear war
491. 13:32, at least in the civilian sector.
492. 13:34Let me also say something about Europe.
493. 13:36You had already prepared a video on this
494. 13:38, Fatma. Now look, friends, such major
495. 13:40wars occur on the eve of major changes.
496. 13:42Meaning the world is moving toward a
497. 13:43change. Certain problems cannot be
498. 13:45solved. There are certain disagreements
499. 13:47. There are certain deadlock points. In
500. 13:49international relations, you reach a
501. 13:51point of war.
502. 13:52>> Like this Russia-Ukraine deadlock you
503. 13:54just mentioned, Iran, America, India,
504. 13:56Pakistan, China, Taiwan. Are you talking
505. 13:58about these?
506. 13:58>> I am talking about these. I mean, the
507. 14:00World War didn't break out just because
508. 14:02some Serbian guy shot some wretched
509. 14:03archduke. I mean, there was a tension
510. 14:05that had accumulated behind that. There
511. 14:07were accumulated, unresolved issues. The
512. 14:09situation of the Serbs within
513. 14:10Austria-Hungary, the Hungarians wanting
514. 14:12to secede, Metternich tried so hard,
515. 14:14Maria Theresa tried so hard, it didn't
516. 14:17work, and so on. I mean, this problem
517. 14:18had already come to a head there. When
518. 14:20you look at Germany, Germany had
519. 14:22surpassed England in industry but
520. 14:23couldn't reach colonies. England and
521. 14:25France were popping up in front of them
522. 14:27everywhere. On the other side, there is
523. 14:28an Ottoman problem in the south. The
524. 14:30Russians and the British had agreed
525. 14:32among themselves to partition the
526. 14:33Ottomans. But in reaction to this, the
527. 14:35Ottomans went and leaned toward Germany
528. 14:37. And might I add, there was a boiling
529. 14:39cauldron inside Russia. The Romanovs
530. 14:41were not even aware of this yet. When we
531. 14:42look at today's situation, we see this
532. 14:44type of power deadlock that states have
533. 14:45imposed on each other. And in addition
534. 14:47to this, Europe is currently boiling
535. 14:48just like Russia was in that period.
536. 14:50Actually, no one is aware of this. In
537. 14:51fact, I think we should make a video
538. 14:53about this.
539. 14:55Like, has uncontrolled migration, all
540. 14:57these immigrants, become Europe's
541. 14:58nightmare?
542. 15:00Because in a potential nuclear war or a
543. 15:02total war right now, the place Europe
544. 15:04needs to deal with most is behind the
545. 15:06front lines. Man, you can't even go into
546. 15:07your own bathroom as a Frenchman, right
547. 15:09? You can't control your own suburbs.
548. 15:11The guys have practically set up some
549. 15:12kind of rebel state there. They do
550. 15:14whatever they want. And you talk about
551. 15:16standing up to Russia in foreign policy
552. 15:18. You haven't even handled your own
553. 15:19internal affairs. So, there is also this
554. 15:21situation in Europe. Let's see what
555. 15:22happens with this. I am very curious,
556. 15:24but if it happens, the trouble is huge.
557. 15:26I think it would start a chain reaction
558. 15:29.
559. 15:29>> While we're on the subject of nukes,
560. 15:31what is the difference between a
561. 15:32tactical nuke and a strategic nuke?
562. 15:34>> The difference is as follows. What is a
563. 15:36strategic nuke? For example, a hydrogen
564. 15:38bomb. Alright? Like the Tsar bomb. Of
565. 15:40course, I don't know what they’ve built
566. 15:41since the Tsar bomb. I mean, the last
567. 15:42thing they made was the Tsar bomb. They
568. 15:44tested it, they detonated it. The
569. 15:45shockwaves circled the globe three times
570. 15:47or something. I mean, it was a totally
571. 15:48insane weapon. Even the Russians
572. 15:50themselves were terrified of what they
573. 15:51had detonated. In fact, after the Cold
574. 15:53War ended, it came out that, well, this
575. 15:55is a strategic bomb, okay? You launch
576. 15:56one and half of France is gone. That’s a
577. 15:58strategic bomb. Then there is the
578. 16:00tactical nuclear bomb. It’s a surgical
579. 16:01strike targeting a small area, but it
580. 16:03still creates nuclear fallout. Its
581. 16:05purpose is to destroy a specific region
582. 16:07.
583. 16:07After the Cold War, it was revealed, for
584. 16:10example, that the Russians had even
585. 16:11targeted bridges in random villages in
586. 16:13the Netherlands as potential transit
587. 16:15points for tactical nukes.
588. 16:17They had aimed to launch tactical
589. 16:19nuclear bombs. That was the level of
590. 16:20nuclear buildup between the two sides.
591. 16:22When these things came to light back
592. 16:24then, the world was horrified. Like, "
593. 16:26Wow, what have we just stepped back from
594. 16:27?" To explain this more scientifically,
595. 16:29tactical nuclear weapons range in power
596. 16:32from 0.1 kilotons to 50 kilotons. For
597. 16:34reference, the atomic bomb dropped on
598. 16:36Hiroshima in 1945 was 15 kilotons. So,
599. 16:38it actually falls into the tactical
600. 16:40nuclear bomb class now. Think of it that
601. 16:41way. In strategic nuclear warheads, we
602. 16:43are no longer talking about kilotons,
603. 16:45but megatons. And like, you launch one
604. 16:46and a metropolis is gone; you launch
605. 16:48another and half a country is gone—the
606. 16:49film*Threads*does a tremendous job
607. 16:51portraying this. I mean, the film shows
608. 16:52the event very realistically. Everyone
609. 16:54dies, basically. There’s no heroism or
610. 16:55anything like that in the film.
611. 16:57>> I even received some criticism regarding
612. 16:58that film. Since we didn’t mention that
613. 17:00the movie is very disturbing, viewers
614. 17:02should prepare themselves
615. 17:03psychologically before watching it.
616. 17:05Because it really is a heavy film.
617. 17:07>> In this context, the Russians have a
618. 17:09system of their own. From the moment the
619. 17:11other side launches, the Russians don’t
620. 17:13need to do anything manually. The system
621. 17:15automatically launches at pre-determined
622. 17:17targets. There is also such a thing.
623. 17:19I mean, perhaps until the 1980s, the
624. 17:20first one to strike had a chance of
625. 17:22winning a nuclear war, but that’s not
626. 17:24the case now.
627. 17:25Meaning, if you launch, the other side
628. 17:26detects it and launches back. So, when a
629. 17:28nuclear war begins, those who have seen
630. 17:30*Threads*will remember. They don’t just
631. 17:32launch one and stop. First, one is
632. 17:34detonated high up to create an EMP
633. 17:36effect. The entire electronic
634. 17:38infrastructure of that country collapses
635. 17:39.
636. 17:41Then, if they want to destroy the whole
637. 17:42country, or if they want to completely
638. 17:44wipe out that section of the country and
639. 17:46make it uninhabitable, strategic bombs
640. 17:48follow, or they just launch a couple of
641. 17:49tactical ones to break the defenses.
642. 17:52One of my concerns is exactly this. They
643. 17:54are going to launch that tactical bomb,
644. 17:56but there is also a possibility of that
645. 17:58tactical bomb creating an EMP effect.
646. 17:59What kind of bomb is it? Are we going to
647. 18:01be affected by that EMP situation as
648. 18:02well? I mean, it's unclear. It's not
649. 18:04clear what those people will launch. He
650. 18:05might claim he'll use a tactical one. We
651. 18:06might see him use a strategic one. And
652. 18:08then, well, with Trump, you never know
653. 18:10what he'll do.
654. 18:10>> In that case, it depends on what the
655. 18:12goal is. I mean, are you aiming for
656. 18:15total destruction or is the goal to gain
657. 18:17control in line with your own interests
658. 18:20?
659. 18:20>> Even if it's tactical, will it create
660. 18:22nuclear fallout, and will that fallout
661. 18:24reach us? It will reach us. I mean,
662. 18:26>> won't it pollute the clean water sources
663. 18:28of 50 million people,
664. 18:29>> and won't it reach the Persian Gulf and
665. 18:30the Strait of Hormuz? The nuclear
666. 18:32fallout will reach there.
667. 18:33Gulf countries, for instance the United
668. 18:35Arab Emirates, get almost all their
669. 18:37water by desalinating seawater. Won't
670. 18:39all these people end up with cancer, my
671. 18:40friend? Doesn't that mean you'd be
672. 18:42hitting your own allies indirectly by
673. 18:44making this move? Man, this is such a
674. 18:46crazy situation. Look at what we're
675. 18:47talking about in 2026. I mean, we're
676. 18:49sitting here debating, will he use a
677. 18:50tactical one? Will he use a strategic
678. 18:51one? What will happen if he uses a
679. 18:52tactical one? We're actually sitting
680. 18:53here talking about this. It's like a
681. 18:55joke.
682. 18:55>> By the way, let me confess. I don't
683. 18:57think they will use it.
684. 18:58>> I mean, I don't think they will either.
685. 19:00I'm choosing to think positively right
686. 19:01now. I'm thinking positively for the
687. 19:02sake of it being good, but could they
688. 19:03use it? They could. They really could. I
689. 19:05mean, we're talking about the United
690. 19:07States, and could this start a chain
691. 19:09reaction in terms of global foreign
692. 19:11policy? Yes, it could start one.
693. 19:13>> I have nothing else to ask. My questions
694. 19:15were just that.
695. 19:16>> We've come to the end of another news
696. 19:17analysis video. Don't make those kinds
697. 19:18of comments about Fatma. Don't make her
698. 19:19angry, she's going to tell you how it is
699. 19:20. She won't tell. Take care of
700. 19:22yourselves. Stay fascist. Nacar
701. 19:23International Shipping presented the
702. 19:25news analysis program with Tolga Turan.