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0:02[Music]
0:09um great start hello everyone welcome
0:12back to the Triforce broadcast yes what
0:15do you mean
0:16great close the door he said um I wasn't
0:19ready just threw him off I'm have a
0:21little sip of
0:23tea do my best it's been thrown off
0:25sorry it's not on not on at the moment
0:27we're busy people busy dads busy moms
0:29busy busy life he's a busy M he's on M
0:32he's a busy M he's a busy M he's reading
0:35all the mom tips and he's just got a lot
0:37of Mom Mom stuff to do got lot lot of
0:39babies baby boys who need their baby
0:43lots of baby boys out there that need a
0:44lot of TLC tender loving hell yeah care
0:47you know that's what I provide here you
0:50know that's
0:51my TLC means something different in in
0:53the The Learning Channel is what it also
0:56no I'm going to say in the context of
0:57this podcast it means tiny tiny [ __ ]
1:00tiny little all our listeners have TLC
1:03right oh I see tiny little I haven't
1:06heard that for a while actually I've got
1:08to say I thought we'd forgotten about it
1:11no it's still it's still going a lot of
1:13people out there greeting each other
1:14with the little penis I have a tiny
1:16penis and stuff all the time I I have
1:18had it said to me in public by people
1:21they lean in not recently they lean in
1:24there is a little bit of a lean in
1:25nobody really just sort of um declares
1:28it you know yeah dramatically yeah well
1:31they like hold their hand up and they
1:32speak it behind their
1:35way by the way I mean I told you the guy
1:39at uh when we were flying out of Gatwick
1:41one of the guys doing the bag check yeah
1:43said it very loudly proudly yeah I have
1:46a tiny penis while he's doing the backck
1:49I was going through uh security at uh at
1:51the airport in Las Vegas and uh I had
1:54the same thing I said hey I got a tiny
1:56penis by the way what it's like a
1:59security guard at at the airport yeah it
2:01was good it it always makes me laugh
2:03especially when people say it to me and
2:06we're with people who uh have no idea
2:09about the stupid podcast that we do and
2:11they're like sorry you're going to have
2:13to explain to me why that young man just
2:15came up and told you about his penis
2:17nice yep it's something it's something
2:19all right we started something we
2:21started a movement yeah you think like
2:25it's I don't know let's move on let's
2:27move on well no you had a question what
2:28was your question I haven't got question
2:32I haven't got question I don't care
2:33carry on he doesn't care he's he's he's
2:36Beyond I'm happy with it I what we we we
2:38have to just take take what we got have
2:40you bought a house yet Louis no man I
2:44haven't even had any viewings I think
2:46that whole like lost all the whole
2:49situation with the viewing like just
2:51just blew blew it right out you know
2:53it's just all it takes is for one thing
2:55to like Scupper the whole process you
2:58know given up live in carry on living in
3:01my basement flat forever Scupper is a
3:03good is a good word your Flat's nice
3:06though your current one is nice like I
3:07wouldn't be too quick to move away from
3:09a from a place such as such as that a
3:13nice a nice a nice place it's not it's
3:15not Dungey well I didn't find it was
3:17over really Dungey you haven't been
3:20there recently no it's got quite dank in
3:22there you R you redecorated I put some
3:25like spikes up yeah nice yeah nice nice
3:28they're very on Trend at the moment so
3:30got some wet
3:32walls where the boiler was uh leaking
3:35yeah oh this um I had some little fungus
3:39gnats in my plants green fly in my
3:42plants what's a fungus it's like a
3:44little shitty little Gat that that lives
3:47in the soil of your house plants and it
3:50can it like eats the roots and then they
3:53they just they they're just they're [ __ ]
3:55they're really [ __ ] flies they're very
3:57easy to squash you see what I mean
3:58they're like kind of they're Dopey
4:00they're like mini
4:01mosquitoes there's a there's an animal
4:04for everything isn't there a [ __ ]
4:07gnat that eats the roots of the house
4:09plant what the [ __ ] nature can you chill
4:12there can be gaps all right you don't
4:15have to have an animal for everything I
4:17honestly it feels like you know I took
4:19some bananas over from the office and
4:20they had those little fruit flies on
4:21them I had like fruit flies black flies
4:24fungus Nets and green flies and I've
4:25only got like three house plants how the
4:27[ __ ] is it they so infested I mean no
4:30wonder they used to think that insects
4:32just sprang from the earth cuz if you
4:35were in ancient Greece what is it
4:37pathogenesis or something they call it
4:38they honestly just thought that insects
4:40and small life just came out of the
4:42earth cuz that's how it feels looks like
4:45you get a house and now there's [ __ ]
4:46nuts they live in weird [ __ ] places
4:49man like let me tell you recently I was
4:51driving my car and all of a sudden a
4:53wasp crawled out of like in between the
4:56door and the wind you know like where
4:58the window slides down in like the the
5:00window holder in the door he crawled out
5:03of the inside of that so there's a wasp
5:06living in my my car door he just crawled
5:10in he yeah he's huge as well he just
5:12crawled out and then I was like oh [ __ ]
5:14I'm going to try to let him out so I I
5:16rolled down the window and he just like
5:17crawled down the window into the door
5:19again I haven't seen him since so I
5:22guess I guess here's my question I've
5:25never seen I've never seen a fruit fly
5:27out and about I've only ever seen them
5:29when I have a banana and I've eaten the
5:31banana and I put the peel down and
5:33suddenly there's fruit flies uh where
5:35are they coming from are they flying
5:36around out there sniff in the air for
5:38bananas and and a bit of apple peel at
5:40all times cuz I've never seen one out
5:42and about I had a banana peel in my
5:44garbage can in my garage one time that I
5:47forgot about and it was in there for
5:48quite some time and I had a mini
5:50infestation of I I've had this the other
5:53day sorry not the other day this was
5:55last year towards the end of the year it
5:56was still quite warm and I have a bin in
5:58my office and I had I had a couple of
6:00bananas and I put the bananas peels in
6:02the bin stupidly and didn't I don't
6:05change it all the time because you know
6:07I I I don't put much rubbish in the bin
6:09in my office so this Banana's obviously
6:11got to the point where the Flies are
6:12like well this is this is the this is
6:14the best pretty rotten banana peel we've
6:17ever been near I open the bin and like
6:1850 of the [ __ ] fly out and now
6:20they're in my office they're not anymore
6:22cuz I've got rid of the fruit but the
6:24point is how do they get there someone
6:26tell me what are they doing out there
6:27well they're small they probably crawled
6:28under the door or like you know they
6:30came I have the window I have the window
6:32open like they're coming in through the
6:33window I'm just saying are they just are
6:36they just flying about cuz they leave my
6:38office they're seeking out rotten banana
6:40P I don't I don't think they are like I
6:43could be completely wrong I reckon
6:45they're not like endemic to this country
6:47at all they're probably from wherever
6:49they actually grow in in the in the
6:51equator and you know in wherever
6:53wherever banan all the time because I
6:55think at at a slightly reduced
6:58temperature I think they all die right
7:01like I think a little bit of cold kills
7:04them all off real quick I they could
7:06only breed at a very specific like room
7:08temperature and so I think what happens
7:10is they come in on they just comeing in
7:12all the time on bananas right so there's
7:14always eggs on them all the time and so
7:17it's just inevitable that the the
7:19bananas they get taken to a warehouse or
7:21whatever which is probably full of them
7:23as well you know and then that gets
7:24taken to so you get free you get free
7:27eggs with every banana that you I think
7:29so I think so pretty good considering
7:31the cost of eggs these days could be
7:34free eggs maybe they do for I don't
7:36think they're just flying around though
7:37in in the in England like no especially
7:41like winter it's like 3 degrees out
7:43there they probably do exist like out in
7:45like the Woodland and stuff though
7:47they're probably out there realistically
7:49they must be just I just don't think
7:51they can it's too cold like the cold
7:52snap probably kills them all off you
7:54know every year that's why they're just
7:55not here well there's lots of
7:57insects that that are are sort of killed
8:00off during cold weather and they always
8:02seem to come back so there's got there's
8:03got to be some way that they preserve
8:06themselves but a lot like the lifespan
8:08of an insect is is very short generally
8:11isn't it what do you think the lifespan
8:12of the fruit fly from egg to death is
8:15how long do you think that is like a
8:17couple of days maybe leou don't knowa 50
8:21days yeah it's not most insects are like
8:24that like you like bees no no no 50 days
8:27is longer than I expected yeah it's not
8:30long quite a long time but that
8:32does low amount of time if you kept one
8:35as a pet for example food FL but I mean
8:38the thing is that does leave like Louis
8:40said the eggs are probably already on
8:42the fruit because the banana comes over
8:44here it's going that that egg can exist
8:47on that banana and then a few days later
8:49hatches you acquire a baby fruit fly as
8:51a pet and you know the countdown started
8:53you have 50 days left what are you doing
8:55with that fly you're doing like the
8:57Titanic thing with him you're taking him
9:00taking him to Thailand like you got you
9:03got to get everything in there 50 days
9:05is not very long yeah a tiny tiny tiny
9:09quicker than that I've have no idea how
9:12long this fascinating stuff really but
9:14like I guess they I I knew they used
9:16fruit flies as cuz that the fruit fly
9:19was the thing that had its DNA
9:20synthesized first right it was very
9:22simple organism right and it was the
9:24first thing to have it DNA completely
9:25mapped and I think they've used it in
9:28Labs because of it
9:30rapid generational growth so you can see
9:32you know what what would you know
9:34imagine there's something that would
9:35affect um something in multiple
9:36Generations down line they can see quite
9:38quickly with fruit flies how that takes
9:41effect right but I guess we 50 days is
9:45still a long time to like you know get
9:47the next results in but I guess that
9:48means you can go through 10 Generations
9:50in a year which is well eight
9:51Generations a year which is quite a lot
9:53quite a lot yeah um yeah fascinating
9:55stuff the Wikipedia article on fruit
9:57flies is extremely long because although
9:59they are very little tiny fly that seems
10:02unimportant there's an awful lot that
10:04we've done like Louis said in terms of
10:06like genetics and stuff they've been
10:07absolutely uh you know vital really in
10:09in the work of that we share 50% of our
10:12DNA with those fruit flies how crazy is
10:14that it says literally one of the
10:16Articles here is similarity to humans oh
10:18sorry it's 60% between us and fruit
10:21flies and 75% of nohum disease genes
10:24have a recognizable match in the Genome
10:26of fruit flies so they are extremely
10:28important
10:29little little things and they're not
10:31they're not pests they don't cause fruit
10:33to rot they just are attracted they are
10:36a bit of a pest though when there's
10:37loads of them I mean it's your own fault
10:40if you're leaving rotten fruit around
10:42exactly and they're there you have no
10:44one to blame but yourself but still when
10:46you arrive at that situation you do kind
10:48of think these things are a bit of a
10:49pest there's a lot of them they're just
10:51little Buzzy things but they don't make
10:52a sound they don't get in your face they
10:55don't really want anything to do with
10:56you they just want to sit on a banana
10:57peel it's not that bad uh could be of
11:00all the things like it's weird that they
11:02pick that though like there's so many
11:04good like they could find a chicken
11:05burger or something somewhere I'm sure
11:07or like you know maybe um some like U
11:10spilled Coke on the ground like
11:11something something that maybe tastes
11:14better than a rotten banana I don't know
11:16like it's oh my God so I remember so
11:18they're also known as the vinegar fly
11:20right we used to go to this Pub in
11:21Bristol um and have like regularly have
11:24lunch there and it had these bottles of
11:27vinegar um on the tables right open and
11:30one day I was like holding one up and I
11:32like noticed there was like a sediment
11:33in the bottom of it oh no and I realized
11:36it was hundreds of dead fruit flies oh
11:38that is gross yeah it was like you could
11:41you could see like all their little
11:42wings and the little bodies and like it
11:44was just like what the [ __ ] and it
11:47obviously CU it was open fruit flies
11:48would fly in there yeah get get died
11:50drown go to the bottom fly just over and
11:53over again I think it's like slugs like
11:55beer if you put if you put like a little
11:57container of beer in your back backyard
12:00it'll just be filled with dead slugs
12:02yeah they [ __ ] love it it's like a
12:04watering hole that they just die in
12:05they're like rugby fans yeah it's
12:09crazy do you know what uh we get we get
12:11slugs that come in the house and they
12:13love the dog bowl so when we go to feed
12:16the dog in the morning there are always
12:18a couple of little slugs on there and
12:20I'm trying to figure out where the [ __ ]
12:22are they coming from and I've looked all
12:24around where the Dog bow is there's
12:25obviously some absolutely tiny crack ins
12:29bit of the skirting board and or they're
12:31just coming in it's impossible to stop
12:33but we got this it's a tape it's a very
12:35fine tape like cell tape but it's I
12:37think it's copper and they don't like to
12:39crawl across it um so if you put the
12:41tape down it stops them coming in
12:43because I mean the only reason I was
12:45thinking what what could it be they
12:47don't like the feel of it or whatever is
12:48it like tin foil to cats is to aser two
12:52slugs chewing chewing on aluminium fo
12:55something like that to them they're like
12:56h i mean my first thought was is like
12:59something to do with conductivity where
13:01because they're wet they crawl across
13:03the copper and it causes like almost a
13:05staticky thing for them I don't know but
13:07they it does work though you see Gardens
13:10with them all the time you know like
13:12they'll be like a like a little like
13:14film of copper surrounding a planter and
13:18and it works like they just won't go
13:19over it I hate it it's weird God do have
13:22to come up with such convoluted
13:25solutions to deal with well there's lot
13:27of stuff to keep track of there's lots
13:29of like like plant diseases and and
13:32pests and stuff like carrots are
13:34notoriously quite um prone to to pest um
13:38like no one wants to use
13:41bushes pesticides right and like like
13:44anything kind of anything that's not
13:46organic so as a result everyone comes up
13:48with all you you you look for anything
13:50like even looking for this thing about
13:52fungus gats like it comes up with like
13:5415 different solutions and everyone is
13:56everyone in the comments is like none of
13:58these works yeah I mean it it you you
14:01you kind of stum across something go to
14:04a local coffee gr Brewery and get the
14:06grounds and rub put those in the soil
14:09I'll try cinnamon I'll try dious Earth
14:13I'll try like oh [ __ ] like mosquito
14:16dip or iguana egg shells the shell of
14:20the Iguana egg is very good at repelling
14:24slugs but only for cabbages will not
14:26work for cab
14:29in Moon though it will only it must be 3
14:33a.m. when you do you need an ordained
14:36Orthodox priest from Greek
14:40Orthodox has to come and anoint the uh
14:43eggshell of the uana and then the Slugs
14:47will turn back but the thing is what you
14:49get is you get someone swearing blind
14:52that it worked for them because maybe it
14:53did maybe it was something that happened
14:54maybe there was a cold snap maybe
14:56something maybe like I don't know like
14:58something happened and they it solved
15:00the problem for them and then from that
15:02point on that is then like an urban
15:04myth propagated around they think it's
15:07that but it's actually something else
15:08but they're convinced it's that and then
15:11it's it somehow sticks over the
15:13generation so good like trying to make
15:16connections they they want to see a
15:18connection and it's all incredibly kind
15:20of superstitious you know yeah um and oh
15:24we can't help ourselves honestly no um
15:26we have um God just to figure out what's
15:29what's called in these gats is blowing
15:31my [ __ ] mind we have uh we have
15:34guinea pigs in our house in a cage
15:36obviously um but they have we we have
15:39dry food for them you know they they eat
15:40like these little um you like Gertie
15:43guinea pig or and like Excel they're
15:45like these little pellet things that
15:46they eat so they have they they got
15:48bowls for dry food and we keep the the
15:50dry food close by in the house but
15:53sometimes when the dry food is open I
15:55don't know how this happens or maybe
15:57again there's eggs in there or something
16:00you get these like little they look like
16:01little meal worms or something they're
16:03like these tiny tiny ass little worms
16:05but it they crawl like onto the ceiling
16:08I don't know if they want to get to the
16:09light or or something but you see them
16:11they'll be on the wall and they'll be on
16:12the ceiling um and that's just if we
16:15keep the dry food like in a in a plastic
16:17bag that we can't really seal shut you
16:19get them they you get them everywhere
16:21they're gross like just these little
16:23worms but now we've got like these like
16:25cereal containers like you know plastic
16:28ones like Weare ones that you can you
16:30can Seal clothes
16:31and so they're either stuck in there or
16:34they just don't like Tupperware I don't
16:36know they run out of oxygen do you think
16:38um it's thing is when I had the power it
16:41didn't really matter if there was a few
16:42bugs and ins around cuz you know they
16:44would eat them yeah but like uh I think
16:48for I'm not sure guinea pigs want to eat
16:50worms no I don't think so ginea pigs ter
16:53eat them yeah we got two we've had them
16:54for well it' be two years and like next
16:57month I like the noises they make
17:00they're quite sweet yeah they are sweet
17:02but man they are hungry all the time and
17:04over over time they get to know the
17:07sounds of things so like a wrestling bag
17:09or just the fridge opening like they're
17:11in the kitchen so every time the fridge
17:14opens just go insane oh I see but in the
17:18same way that all animals a lot of
17:20animals are just hungry all time but if
17:22you actually feed them all the time they
17:23will just get massively fat yes yeah
17:26well cuz they in a little cage they
17:27don't in the summer they they go outside
17:29so they get to exercise and stuff but
17:31during the winter really they just sit
17:33around and get fat like there's not much
17:35for them to do so it's just Wate though
17:38right like they can they can they can I
17:41heard that D mice uh obviously hibernate
17:44for like something like four to six
17:46weeks but they get like they get they
17:48when they eat they get to twice their
17:49normal size before they hibernate and
17:52basically you can like poke a sleeping
17:53door which you shouldn't do but um it
17:56will kind of it they're they're almost
17:57like jelly you can like um you can
18:00deform them like they're jelly like poke
18:03like if you poke them it will like the
18:05fingerprint will stay in them where you
18:07poke them but it don't poke Terry was
18:10like the complete opposite of that when
18:11he was hibernating he was just like a
18:13like a solid cold brick like who didn't
18:15move like if you did you touch him while
18:17he was you you got to weigh them every
18:20week because they can get uh you know
18:22like if they start losing weight rapidly
18:25while they're hibernating they could die
18:27so you have to sort of keep an eye on
18:29there's all diseases that they could get
18:32they could have like you know worms or
18:34or something like oh Christ it's [ __ ]
18:36out of control nature thank you for
18:37saying that earlier P Flex by the way
18:39nature what are you doing just just
18:41chill out like there's even animals that
18:44live on the [ __ ] volcanic vents Under
18:46the Sea what are you doing what kind of
18:49life is that they they're not having fun
18:51down there it's ridiculous maybe they're
18:53having a nice time like wiggly worm on
18:55the bottom of a event they need to calm
18:58down they need w w inflatable arm
19:00flailing Wiggly what a I mean think I'd
19:02say 99.9% of all life on Earth just
19:05lives a miserable grinding existence of
19:07existing
19:09existing with no [ __ ] purpose Beyond
19:13maintaining their life many people's
19:16lives right now I'm referring to us I'm
19:18referring to humans at least ants serve
19:20a purpose what do I do I play football
19:22manager on stream for 10 hours yesterday
19:24that's what I did right what did you do
19:27for 10 hours sorry I I miss man oh nice
19:31you get into that I was into it for a
19:33bit Yeah I was playing it uh on my uh on
19:36my tablet it's it's it's fun you I think
19:38that's when you became friends with some
19:40of the dads at school right who footb
19:43talking about no I never got never went
19:45down did you have a fantasy football
19:47group with some of the dads at school I
19:49can't remember oh that was a long long
19:50time ago I I just I just I've gotten
19:53past a bit of World Cup fever and I
19:55thought you know what I'd love to join a
19:57football fantasy football thing but I
19:59realized very quickly um that people who
20:02regularly watch football are very
20:04knowledgeable about it and know who's
20:06good and stuff and I had no idea and I
20:09just couldn't make any points and it it
20:11kind it was kind of miserable like it's
20:13probably fun if you follow it and you
20:15know what you're doing I guess it's like
20:17a side effect of your hobby like if
20:20you're really into yeah football then
20:22you just accidentally know who's good
20:25and who's playing well and you can see
20:28stuff so your intuition is already there
20:30when it comes to like that that level of
20:32playing if you watched a lot of DOTA if
20:34you watched a lot of like regular season
20:37Dota or whatever you know leading up to
20:39TI and there's like a fantasy league
20:41where you could you could bet on teams
20:43and stuff like that it' be fine you know
20:45like I'm more familiar with it but
20:47football not at all what you
20:49knowledgeable about now um right now I'm
20:52very knowledgeable about uh the game
20:54hydr ear you ever heard of that oh yeah
20:57I've been playing that uh that fun yeah
20:59it's been playing some Marvel Rivals as
21:02well fairly knowledgeable about that um
21:05okay yeah you know just just just games
21:08just a couple games just a little couple
21:09little games T me over I don't know if
21:11you guys know this but um football
21:13manager 25 which meant to come out last
21:17year they they postponed it till March
21:19and now they've canceled it all together
21:21that's mad and I was discussing this the
21:23other day on stream I was doing a lot of
21:24wondering uh and I would love it if
21:26anybody out there knew or if you guys
21:27know um I I've got some theories about
21:29obviously the problem is that the people
21:31that develop um football manager have
21:33basically been making the same game for
21:3630 years or so because although there
21:38have been some changes a lot of the
21:40changes are are mostly cosmetic frontend
21:42UI changes or they've very slightly
21:45adjusted the in-game engine which I
21:47think is so old and creaky at this point
21:50that this basically reached its limit so
21:52they decided to move to Unity now the
21:54problem is although Unity is extremely
21:56common place and used in so many games
21:58no one at SI as far as I can tell knew
22:01what the [ __ ] they were doing with unity
22:03because apparently they put ads up
22:04saying if you're a Unity Dev we need you
22:07at SI games cuz they they bunch of old
22:08Lads who've been [ __ ] making FM know
22:10[ __ ] anything about Unity or Graphics
22:13apparently um because the game has
22:15looked like us for a very long time um
22:18so they try to move over to Unity it's
22:20obviously a massive problem for them
22:22they're trying to develop this game and
22:23release it and I just think you've got
22:25this culture surely uh at a company that
22:28b basically changes the bare minimum
22:30season to seon now it's like right Lads
22:32we need to rebuild the game from scratch
22:34with a new engine uh let's do it and
22:36we'll do it on the same time frame we
22:38normally do FM it's impossible they
22:40cannot do it they have to figure out how
22:42to code in the unity they have to
22:43[ __ ] move everything over they
22:45they've got all this God knows what
22:47spaghetti code if DOTA tried to move to
22:49DOTA 3 and they were like we're going to
22:51have to P everything over they would
22:52have to start again from scratch
22:54I so spaghettified a lot of these games
22:57though like Football manager I I feel
23:00like football manager because it spends
23:02such a a big um track of time I don't
23:05know if you need a new game every year
23:08it's a bit like farming Sim why do you
23:10need a why you need a new game every one
23:12or two years make one really good game
23:15that you can just easily add stuff to if
23:18you want to keep making money so the
23:20Paradox model is that we release Hearts
23:22of Iron and then for the next like 10
23:25years we're going to release DLC for
23:26that eu4 has been like 15 years and
23:29they're still pumping out DLC for
23:32it by the way can I just say the latest
23:34DLC for HS Vine is Iraq and Afghanistan
23:38finally World War II
23:41finally it's Iraq and Afghanistan in
23:44relation to what in relation to World
23:45War I that's the DLC their involvement
23:48you could play as those two countries
23:50weird that they would put those two
23:51together each it's weird but it's kind
23:53of it is it is cool that they add trees
23:57and stuff for every country cuz it it
23:59just makes the game more replayable you
24:01know like if you've already done a big
24:03campaign as Germany or you've already
24:06done a couple of big campaigns as the UK
24:08or whatever you'll probably want what am
24:10saying they don't border each other Iran
24:12borders Afghanistan sorry Iraqi and
24:14Iranians I always get they're like
24:16Corridor to the west or whatever right
24:18but so they they've also changed the
24:20focus tree for um India and this has
24:22caused a lot of controversy I don't know
24:24if you guys know about this no okay so
24:26they they call Afghanistan and that that
24:29sort of region the graveyard of Empires
24:30right cuz people go there and try and do
24:32[ __ ] and they lose so we went there back
24:34in the day of course the kyber pass and
24:36all that stuff got her ass is kicked
24:37because you can't fight in Afghanistan
24:38it's impossible it's literally fighting
24:40in in someone else's backyard where
24:41their backyard is just mountains and
24:44they know them and and there's no
24:46[ __ ] way to move [ __ ] around um and
24:49all of these areas are just miserable to
24:51to fight in as an Invader um as we
24:54discovered in in multiple engagements so
24:56they've added something called this sort
24:58of Silk Road system for India if you
25:01play as India you get cores which is
25:03important in Hearts of Iron a core
25:05territory means if you capture it you
25:08get all the Manpower and resources from
25:09it you don't have to see it as like
25:12occupied territory you're like this was
25:13it this was ours anyway do you know what
25:15I mean like when America takes Canada
25:17I'm sure they get cause on Canada if
25:19they go down the Donald Trump Focus Tree
25:21in of for a state yeah exactly so India
25:25got CES on along the the old Silk Road
25:28path um and these CS it's very weird but
25:31it does follow the Silk Road and if you
25:32look it's like this weird twisting line
25:34that follows the Silk Road the Chinese
25:36fans of Hearts of Iron are up in arms
25:39about this development and consider the
25:41fact that you can get CES on China as
25:43India but not vice versa to be
25:46anti-chinese propaganda and they have
25:48taken uh against Paradox uh they've been
25:51review bombing every Paradox game
25:53they've been having to go at pretty much
25:55anyone from Sweden that they can find
25:57online it's like a big online Hearts of
25:59Iron like trolling everything to do with
26:02Paradox games and Sweden um because
26:04they're so app but
26:06yeah that you get from you have to be so
26:09careful I don't even want to talk about
26:11it on this podcast because you know they
26:13might I am not review bomb just to be
26:16clear games I am not commenting on the
26:20who where what why um and and you know
26:22should they shouldn't they whatever for
26:24this exact reason I'm just saying what
26:26is happening that is crazy yeah yeah
26:28you're just informing us of a couple of
26:30factoids that you've picked up which is
26:32literally happening and you can go and
26:34look at these games and you'll see the
26:36reviews you can see it for yourself it's
26:37right there it's been all over gaming
26:39news and I haven't played Hearts of Iron
26:41in quite some time actually I I I I do
26:44enjoy it but it's it's one that I come
26:46back to every once in a while I feel
26:48like it's a it's a bit of a weird one to
26:50want to go and experience World War II
26:53from a different angle it's like I'm
26:54going to role play as Afghanistan and
26:56kind of not do much for years and then
26:59end the game like mean it's not actually
27:01a game no really it's kind of a a lot of
27:04the stry games like that you kind of um
27:08every time you play one you you just you
27:10kind of just make it either make it up
27:12as you go or you have like a you know
27:15you're looking for an achievement or you
27:17have like a really specific goal in mind
27:19yeah but I mean it's quite good that
27:22it's that replayable you know there's a
27:24lot of games that are just not you know
27:26you play them from start to finish and
27:27you're done you would never go back to
27:29them but it's kind of it is a bit of a
27:32of a Sandbox really that you can enjoy
27:35again especially with updates and stuff
27:37we've actually never really had a a huge
27:40problem with paradox's model I know it's
27:42you know it has been a a thing that
27:45people have complained about or
27:47commented on in the I'll be honest with
27:48you I I don't I don't understand the
27:50hate for it I really don't well I
27:52understand the hate for it when a DLC
27:54comes out and it's bad cuz then it's
27:56just it feels like [ __ ] of course it
27:58does maybe you don't buy it that's one
28:01thing cuz when an FM comes out and it's
28:03[ __ ] you're stuck with a [ __ ] game not
28:05just a bad DLC so and also a lot of the
28:07time when a DLC comes out they also
28:09release a patch for free along with it
28:11yeah and the problem is it's fomo isn't
28:13it it's like wait they're adding what
28:15and I have to pay how much for it but if
28:17this is a game you're still playing and
28:18you want them to keep developing it and
28:20adding new content they're only going to
28:22do that if they can get the money to
28:24develop it because it cost money to
28:25develop software and games I think
28:27another important aspect of this whole
28:29thing though is that there is such a
28:31fine balance between releasing a good
28:34base game and a not good one and then
28:37and then the discussion really comes
28:38into play because if they release a base
28:40game and it's good and people are happy
28:43to play it until DLC starts coming out
28:46for it then Happy Days I don't think
28:48anybody's complaining about it but when
28:49the base game comes out and it's missing
28:51loads of stuff that's when everybody's
28:53like oh they didn't even [ __ ] put in
28:55this really simple thing and know that
28:58it's just going to be in DLC and they're
29:00they're going to fleece you for it and
29:01stuff and I
29:03me yeah City skylines 2 was very much
29:06that yeah it was uh unfortunate but um
29:10so here was my idea for for FM is that
29:12they don't release FM 23 fm24 fm25 and
29:15so on what they do is football manager
29:17like ultimate and this version comes out
29:19and it's whatever they're building here
29:21with this Unity stuff and then they do
29:24DLC for basically what amounts to
29:26Cosmetics okay and I'll give you an
29:28example uh I would love it if the crowd
29:31sounds in South America were different
29:33to the crowd sounds when I'm playing not
29:35County versus Preston North End because
29:37when you look at football from other
29:39countries it sounds different the crowd
29:41sounds are different the noise that the
29:43fans make when someone goes close with a
29:44Chance in Spain is different to the way
29:47it is in England is different to the way
29:49it is in Italy and Germany and all of
29:50these countries are different and
29:52there's no feeling of that I want to see
29:54when it's the Argentinian league and
29:55you're in the bombing era River play
29:57against bcka Jun J I want to see tick a
29:59tape raining down from the stands I want
30:01to see all that kind of [ __ ] flares in
30:03the crowd I want to see [ __ ] pitch
30:04inv vases at the end of the season I
30:06will pay good money for that and they
30:09don't do it because every year they're
30:11just like we've [ __ ] we've tweaked the
30:13training UI I don't understand it you
30:15could be making so much more money and
30:17making a so much better game by having
30:19DLC cuz people try to mob this [ __ ] into
30:22the game anyway yeah uh and every year
30:24you can sell here's the here's our
30:26database update all of this well look
30:28you've got to understand that they're
30:30owned by Sega they've put it out yearly
30:32for the last 20 years and have made huge
30:36huge amounts of money on each one it's
30:38just such a reliable Revenue stream and
30:40all they need to do is keep that going
30:42and the problem is it's it must be an
30:44absolute hell for the people who work
30:46there to get this crunch every year of
30:49getting it out on time right and
30:51obviously yeah changing over to a new
30:52system that's why they've missed the
30:54latest one you know it was supposed to
30:55come out last November or something the
30:58missed the deadline my
31:00right canel it's just not coming out now
31:04well you know that's because they're
31:05going to do 2026 in November you know
31:08maybe next time mean I'm not kidding I
31:11don't know um how much patience Sager
31:15are going to have with with SI like my
31:17question is them so it doesn't matter
31:19but so they could also say to them
31:21you've got to put this game out like now
31:23in whatever state it is that's what
31:24these big companies are like but all of
31:26these companies are also looking for
31:27live service games they want game to
31:29have an ongoing player base that pays
31:31money at a steady rate rather than game
31:34comes out make money make nothing off
31:36that game for the next 6 to 8 months and
31:38then a year down the line no one's
31:40buying it instead you could have this
31:41game that continually makes money
31:43throughout the year and you can update
31:45it and improve it DLC is the model for
31:48me that FM should have and has
31:49completely missed out on and I don't
31:51understand it I really don't I'm not
31:52saying that you should have to buy
31:54leagues cuz the the core game at it at
31:56its base is still the [ __ ] same every
31:59year you put that out but instead of
32:00just saying oh you know when when
32:03wherever you're playing it's basically
32:04going to feel the same I mean I'm going
32:06and playing in South America and the
32:08area around the pitch still looks like
32:09the UK yeah like it's got the same
32:12ambulances and the same little toilets
32:13and the same little food stand and he
32:15think this doesn't look like the Uruguay
32:18League that I know um puts [ __ ]
32:20happen into that like there's in a way
32:23it's very England Centric as well the
32:25style of football the way players play
32:26looks like the Premier League or low
32:28leagues like it doesn't look like
32:29football in Italy or Spain or Russia
32:31China it's you know it's they can't CH
32:34the thing is theyve got it's not like
32:35Civ SE has completely reimagined the
32:37game from rebuild it from the ground up
32:39to massive problems it's basically all
32:41built on the same platform at least it
32:43has been up until now anyway I don't
32:45know if you saw next Fest was going on
32:47on Steam yeah there's like tons and it's
32:49like 4,000 demos and all of them are
32:51garbage I feel like I haven't found any
32:53good ones um it's it's very frustrating
32:56I think we're in a funny time maybe I
32:58just hate games but I just haven't found
33:00any one that actually grabbed me at all
33:02um you guys tried played anything
33:05interesting and good lately no um I
33:07happen I did do single player talk which
33:09old man yells at bad games I played a
33:12demo called architect life which was uh
33:14which was interesting it's like uh
33:16imagine like you're imagine building a
33:18house in The Sims um but then when
33:20you're done building it there's like a
33:22specification like a budget and stuff uh
33:25it does this like time lapse where the
33:27house is being built but then there's
33:28events that pop up that can like delay
33:30the build or cost more money and stuff
33:33um the demo is like pretty simple but
33:35the the campaign might be really fun sub
33:36sidence there's a sink hole has opened
33:38up yeah there'll just be stuff like that
33:40you know that'll just come up like as
33:42the the sort of like you know the the
33:44time lapse of the house being built but
33:47you know they build it and it looks like
33:48the house that you designed and then you
33:50could do like a viewing of the house
33:52after it's built and everything uh it's
33:54it's you know it what people are doing
33:56instead of being able so have houses but
33:59fun I think the campaign will be
34:01building
34:02their and another uh another game that
34:05uh I mentioned before blueprints I think
34:07is out next month which is a kind of
34:09like a house house puzzly sort of game
34:12it's really fun though I I played it um
34:14a couple months ago blueprints
34:16blueprints yeah you're a uh you you
34:19inherit a mansion from your Ecentric
34:21Uncle uh but you can only have the the
34:25wealth bestowed on to you if you like
34:27solve the puzzle of the Mansion so it's
34:29like you have it's kind of like uh RNG
34:33you know like you you walk into a room
34:35you consume a step and then you have
34:38three options of what room to build so
34:40you can you can build yourself into a
34:42dead end or you could build a room that
34:43has like a key for a door that you need
34:46or or whatever and you're trying to get
34:47to like the you know like the nerve
34:49center of the the mansion and you have a
34:52certain amount of days to do this but it
34:54resets every day so you have like a
34:55certain amount of moves each day it's
34:57got plan ahead I think you mentioned
34:59this before this blueprints yeah yeah
35:02it's fun I I I I played like it was a
35:04demo that I played a couple months ago
35:05but it's a p it's yeah it's clever yeah
35:08it's it's definitely unique I've never
35:10really played anything like it you feel
35:11like you're you're playing like an old
35:13Zelda game you know or like Binding of
35:15Isaac but without the uh needing any
35:18reflexes and and stuff you know it's
35:19just like a you got to think about what
35:21you're doing and there's there's little
35:23miname puzzles and stuff along the way
35:24it's good it's really good I'm still
35:26working through my list of games from
35:28the the best games of 2024 I've been
35:30playing um the root trees are dead what
35:32yeah I saw you playing that with which
35:34honestly is great looks very it's like a
35:37murder mystery not murder mystery like a
35:40family tree researcher filler up OA
35:43style you have to be like oh so this
35:44guy's with her so she must be his wife
35:47or sister and you sort of put them in
35:49and you work it out and it's I know it's
35:51just really fun really good um can
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37:29show there seems to be like quite quite
37:32a bit out it just it it's weird there's
37:34so much choice that you just have to
37:37it's not it's not a case of finding a
37:39game it's just a case of finding the
37:40right game that you're in the mood for
37:42at the time like I'm I feel like like a
37:44seasonal gamer you know like during like
37:47winter or leading up to Winter whatever
37:49I just like playing grindy shitty
37:52competitive games that you know I just
37:54get angry at but then I don't know as
37:57like sounds like me and golf yeah when
38:00Co happened I was all about it I was
38:02doing the lessons I was getting into it
38:04then they double locked down you
38:05couldn't even go out and do golf they
38:07were like oh no golf tell me about tell
38:09tell me about would I like would me and
38:10sips like golf people go out and do golf
38:14I've done some golf I tell you what I
38:16don't like full golf I do like going to
38:18the driving range though it's really fun
38:20there's something really nice too
38:22[ __ ] hard it's too hard golf is too
38:25hard it's impossible dude like it's not
38:28like if you're playing Five aside with
38:31other people who are [ __ ] and out of
38:32shape you can still have fun but playing
38:34golf the course is the same whether you
38:36are [ __ ] or whether you a professional
38:38player and it's designed to be somewhere
38:40in the middle ground where a decent
38:42golfer will have a decent test of
38:44themselves get it over this bit and get
38:46it around that bit and get it around
38:48this but if you're [ __ ] you're just
38:50going to lose the ball every time you
38:51hit it you're going to swing and miss it
38:53a lot of times it's going to shoot off
38:55and hit a tree and you're going to have
38:56to spend 10 minutes looking for it and
38:58there's all this etiquette on course
38:59Golf Course is like you you get a
39:01certain amount of time when you're
39:02permitted to look for your ball if you
39:03can't find it you can't you're wasting
39:05time people behind you want to play
39:07[ __ ] get on with it you've got to
39:08take a certain amount of time on at the
39:10tea and then it's like you got to get on
39:11with it like it's like a q system and
39:14you're holding everybody up so it's not
39:16like relaxing it's quite stressful and
39:18when you look down at the ball there and
39:20you look at how far they expect you to
39:22hit it and you hit it and it goes
39:24nowhere near it it's so [ __ ]
39:26miserable and you practice and you
39:29practice and you're not getting anywhere
39:30and the guy's like oh yeah what the pro
39:33show me your swing and you do the swing
39:35and the ball goes flying over to the
39:37left he's like right turn this toe 3 de
39:40that way and then you you hit it and
39:42you're like how the [ __ ] am I meant to
39:44remember that because I've got to
39:45remember the that toe there and and that
39:47that thumb there and then and then that
39:49bit there and then I have to put this
39:50shoulder here and I got to swing from
39:51here but I mustn't do that and if you
39:53come back too far it's going to do this
39:54and it's it's a nightmare and unless you
39:56were just those people who just good at
39:58things like physically you see people
40:01who are just able like the athletes are
40:02naturally sort of sports people who can
40:04just do things uh they get their body
40:07and they'll do something and they can do
40:08that exact movement over and over and
40:10over again which is the key to really
40:12golf is that your swing is your swing
40:14and when they like I'm working on
40:16improving my swing I'm working on 50
40:19things that need to improve about my
40:20swing and I can't remember all of them
40:23so I go to hit the ball and one in a
40:25hundred times I hit it and it's
40:26beautiful and it's perfect but I won't
40:28remember how I did it or what I did
40:30differently uh so it's just too [ __ ]
40:33it is a nightmare and if you're off by a
40:35fraction it's not like it just goes a
40:37little bit to the right it goes [ __ ]
40:40missile shooting to the right and dits a
40:42house and you never see the ball again
40:44that is golf so I so it
40:48quit you quit golf do you think do you
40:52think maybe you're just not the right
40:53age to fully appreciate it yet no
40:56exactly have to be old no no no no think
41:00it's a Cas that in 10 years you'll be
41:03like H maybe should give golf another go
41:06no no no I tried it for several years I
41:09driving range lessons I was into it yeah
41:13I was into it and I was getting
41:15somewhere and then I had to take a break
41:17so I went and started from scratch again
41:19the beginner course and I I can hit the
41:21ball I can get it up and down it's okay
41:23but the the inconsistency is so brutal
41:27and the punishment is so great when you
41:29mishit it that it's just not [ __ ]
41:31worth it it's just not worth it so I
41:33just decided nope what have you done
41:35instead what do you mean what do you
41:37what have you done instead with that
41:38time that you would have you know it's
41:40hours out on the golf course outside
41:42have you been walking the dog what
41:43what's like taking its place more games
41:46okay right I'm not saying it's good just
41:48you know it is what it is any golfing
41:50games in there no
41:52oh that's always a thing that confuses
41:55me how popular they are they're
41:57the dude hits the [ __ ] ball like it's
41:59not like me like even if you're bad at
42:01golfing games you can hit the ball
42:03hundreds of yards I've only done that
42:05once you ever seen Char Barkley golf
42:08before yeah swing so what hang on what
42:11you're saying is if it was more like
42:12Elden ring or something and really
42:14punishing and really hard and you have
42:16to keep failing really like loads um it
42:19would be better different fun worse good
42:22I don't know like is that what golf
42:24games should be like rather than easy I
42:27I play hard games I love I love hard
42:30games do is a hard game T of is a hard
42:32game when I play any game it's hard cuz
42:34I'm bad at games um I don't mind that I
42:37enjoy the challenge I like that uh I
42:39played Eve online an example of a game
42:41that is punishing uh when you lose you
42:43lose everything and it's brutal I I
42:45don't mind punishing games but the thing
42:48is when I lose a game of Dota or I die
42:52in tarov or something like that it's
42:54only me that sees that failure and I'm
42:57not pissing anybody else off well no but
42:59those games are games for gamers right
43:01whereas a golf game is not designed for
43:04gamers it's designed for golfers and as
43:05a result they are not Gamers they are
43:07[ __ ] at games and if they [ __ ] if the
43:09game's hard they're going to hate it
43:11they the thing is people that's not
43:14people hate being bad at things and they
43:16get this they get turned off of it real
43:18quick like you did with golf right right
43:20right no no so I I I again I don't mind
43:23necessarily how [ __ ] I am at it the
43:25problem is there is a real world cost to
43:28failure in golf which is I have to spend
43:32money to be a member of a golf course
43:34and I get sick of going because I just
43:35can't [ __ ] do it and I lose a lot of
43:38balls and they're not cheap uh it adds
43:40up and when you when you go out on the
43:42course with 12 balls and you come back
43:44with one you [ __ ] up you've lost 11
43:47golf balls and you're never getting them
43:48back and they were someone got me them
43:50for Christmas they're the easy to find
43:53golf ball couldn't find them all right
43:54special easy to find gol golf balls
43:56impossible to find I lost them so badly
43:59I think they vanish from the face of the
44:01Earth that's how badly I lost my golf I
44:03don't think anyone could have found
44:04these golf B so the other problem is the
44:07people you're playing with look at you
44:09sometimes like what the [ __ ] are you
44:10doing on this course you clearly need
44:12like a decade of practice cuz you are so
44:14bad so it's humiliating and you're there
44:17in real life and if you give up which I
44:19did I was doing golf with these two Lads
44:21and they like I was like I'm really new
44:22I'm totally [ __ ] and they were like
44:23doesn't matter come around play with us
44:25I was like okay cool and as we start
44:26playing I realize oh [ __ ] these guys are
44:28good so I'm like hitting a ball and it's
44:30like scuffing along the ground or
44:31hitting a tree and after a while I can
44:33see that they stopped talking to me they
44:34got their back to me and they're sort of
44:35shunning me and I'm like I'm like I'm
44:38being shunned I told you I was [ __ ] I
44:41told you this was going to
44:44be this guy's [ __ ] up our golf game
44:47so I was like [ __ ] you guys I'm going so
44:49I said all right to tell you what I can
44:50tell this isn't working out I'm going to
44:51go and they were like oh okay I was like
44:55[ __ ] pricks why would you I'm
44:57literally telling you don't I'm bad and
44:59they like no mate we'll be fine so I
45:01went quit halfway through [ __ ] maybe
45:03there's different levels of bad right
45:05cuz I play play board games with lots of
45:07different people randomly at like CHS
45:09and counts and stuff and um one of my
45:11friends invited someone who we play a
45:13game we all played before except this
45:15new guy came in and we were like oh
45:16don't worry we'll we we'll catch up
45:18we'll teach you normally the game takes
45:19like I don't know an hour and a half it
45:21took like five [ __ ] hours to play
45:23this game because he was like agonizing
45:25about every
45:27decision he was just like oh it was an
45:30absolute [ __ ] nightmare he just went
45:33on and on and on and I was like you know
45:36he just could not he was just completely
45:38paralyzed on every decision and you know
45:41for me my turn is like I don't care
45:43about winning jery I just like I'll do
45:45this fun thing fun thing fun thing and
45:46my turn is like 10 seconds every turn
45:48and it's like it's like there's bad and
45:51there's new and then there's like just
45:54that you know and I can I could tell see
45:57the you getting frustrated with certain
46:00people you but then again I just vow
46:02never to play with that guy again you
46:03know um I'll make an excuse I get that
46:06something come up I get that but it's
46:08like I I yes I could obviously just uh
46:10you know not play with those guys or
46:12they were a bad example but I did get
46:14the impression that when you're playing
46:16at a golf course you have to be around
46:19golfers and a lot of them are not fun
46:21people to be [ __ ] at golf around if that
46:23makes sense they get pissed off and they
46:26they lack patience and this is their
46:28Hobby and you're in the [ __ ] way and
46:30a lot of people are just kind of
46:32[ __ ] and now you've got to be
46:33around those [ __ ] and uh I'll give
46:36you an example um we were we were doing
46:39the the training course like the
46:40beginner's course we have to hit some
46:41balls then we go to collect them and
46:43there's these two guys obviously like
46:45business [ __ ] probably Drive Audi's or
46:47BMWs and they see this class we're all
46:50picking up the balls as own instructure
46:52is like right yep let's go pick up the
46:53balls and then we take them back and we
46:54hit them all again okay they start fing
46:57into us and they're like hitting the
46:59ball at us because we're on The Fairway
47:01and they're like well you're on our
47:03Fairway that that kind of [ __ ]
47:04attitude is something that you have to
47:06put up with and I'm sorry a lot of the
47:08people that play golf are rich in Rich
47:10entitled [ __ ] and they are not nice
47:12people to be around so that put me off
47:13too right um I think that that is that
47:16is definitely a thing I I I think the
47:18other I mean you even see it like when
47:19you play mini golf right or like like
47:22what's it Adventure Golf whatever that
47:24is like which I I quite enjoy but I'm
47:27there with like I don't know my brother
47:28or my parents or whatever there's four
47:30of us and there's two people behind we
47:32are of course going to be slower than
47:34them right and so there's two things you
47:35do one you either try and start rushing
47:38your game to stay ahead of them cuz
47:40they're going twice as fast as you are
47:41well you let them play through you say
47:43to them oh do you want to go through to
47:44the next one and a lot of the time they
47:45just say no we'll wait and it's like
47:47well well if you're waiting don't be a
47:49[ __ ] dick about it you I
47:51mean and TW around exactly it's like and
47:56but you can't say
47:58you have to say oh do you want to play
47:59through then if they say no you say if
48:02they ever do something annoying you just
48:04say oh do you want to play through you
48:05just keep saying that until they get the
48:07hint yeah um I just say we're
48:10playing go tell people what to do we're
48:12going backwards yeah we go we're going
48:14to do the old the other one again um
48:17yeah it's it's it's annoying so um I I
48:19get uh I I get frustrated when it's
48:23social embarrassment that is linked to
48:25my failure because don't care about
48:27failing at golf I don't mind being bad
48:29at golf I don't like being humiliated by
48:32people I don't [ __ ] know at a golf
48:34course that's a bridge too far for me
48:36yeah um and at that point I'm like well
48:38this isn't even fun to be bad at and I'm
48:40not even enjoying this when I [ __ ] at
48:42video games online and people clip it
48:44they're having fun I'm having fun it's
48:46enjoyable right and we can sort of share
48:48in that Badness together and I don't
48:50mind and people actually enjoy watching
48:52me fail at video games obviously I do
48:55not like failing in front of people in
48:57real life as something I'm [ __ ] at and
48:59for them not to be like laughing and
49:01enjoying that but instead to get pissed
49:03off you can go [ __ ] yourself so I quit
49:05uh and this was a friendly course like
49:07they were everyone there was really
49:08lovely but when they got on the course
49:10they became [ __ ] and I don't really
49:12understand why it's just God it is funny
49:14because it's a miserable game to play
49:17this happens with certain games right
49:18and certain things where they are
49:20weirdly competitive and people can't
49:22[ __ ] help themselves like like I
49:24remember every time we would do like the
49:26m inecraft race for the world or certain
49:28other Minecraft games everyone became
49:31like sweaty try hards immediately and
49:33stopped having fun and they couldn't
49:35help themselves it was just it and DOTA
49:37does that for sure it it you know if
49:40you're messing around having trying to
49:42have fun and do a silly build there's
49:45going to be someone on your team who's
49:46mad as [ __ ] with you you I mean and you
49:49have to be like a really kind of
49:51charismatic person to be to pull that
49:54[ __ ] off do you know what I mean you
49:55have to be like
49:57I mean I don't know Joe Joe you have to
49:59be like Joe basically you have to be the
50:00best person on the team doing something
50:02stupid that everyone's laughing along
50:04with right right and and if anyone else
50:08was if I was doing it everyone would be
50:10like you are [ __ ] already you're you're
50:13dragging down the team already and now
50:15you're trying to do something stupid
50:16like [ __ ] get out of our team you I
50:19mean I that's certainly the case if you
50:21played that like in a public game like
50:23you're playing with four strangers and
50:25you came to [ __ ] around they want to win
50:27because it is fun to win games of doter
50:28and especially if there's MMR at stake
50:30people take that very seriously yeah um
50:32whereas if you're playing with mates
50:34like when we play uh me Joe and his Lads
50:36and we play doter in the evenings we
50:38will come up with really dumb drafts and
50:41and ideas and and ways of playing uh
50:44like we had one a couple of months ago
50:46we did it where we got all the heroes
50:47that could move enemy Heroes and we had
50:51like there's one hero called Tusk who
50:52can kick enemy Heroes quite far like he
50:55can boot them this is different though
50:56this is like actually playing as a group
50:58of friends together so I'm sure if I
51:01went around a golf course with a bunch
51:03of equally [ __ ] mates and we had a laugh
51:05I would have a whale of a time and I
51:07think what you're what you're saying is
51:09that everyone has to be on the same page
51:10right exact you almost have to like but
51:12you need some patience and you need to
51:14understand like when I didn't say to
51:15them um I'm actually quite good at golf
51:18and misled them I said this will be my
51:20second ever round of golf it's going to
51:22be really bad they're like don't worry
51:23about it don't worry about it and then
51:25get all shitty it's like well [ __ ] you I
51:27mean what are you doing that is that is
51:28kind of why they invite you in the first
51:30place yeah I mean at least I mean the
51:32the on the positive side at least
51:34somebody invited you
51:36somewhere but you
51:38know oh yeah Jo that silver lightting
51:42turn around and make you look like an
51:44[ __ ] you
51:45know that's that you know that's that's
51:48really true SS you know at least someone
51:51invited you somewhere P FL that's yeah
51:53oh I'm just sit my I don't get invited
51:55anywhere so
51:58stupid well sorry I'm just uh it's nice
52:01to be invited it is nice to be to be
52:03invited somewhere not not by unpleasant
52:07people well bers can't be choosers you
52:10saying
52:12exactly exactly
52:14oh yeah no it's I I i' I think everybody
52:18has been in a situation similar to that
52:20it's like uh you know like you go if you
52:23go to like paintballing at work uh and
52:26every everybody's like how many people
52:28have gone paintballing before and
52:30everybody's like oh never this is my
52:31first time I can't wait and you get
52:33there and everybody is like you know
52:35some sweaty 20-year-old veteran you know
52:40ex exmilitary
52:42Commando you're just like okay dude yeah
52:46exactly it's like it it always happens
52:49it happens in everything it's true I I
52:51do um I do think that the idea of having
52:54uh a hobby like golf I really liked the
52:57idea of it um but it just didn't work
52:59out so in but in terms of like filling a
53:01void or whatever uh in what I do with my
53:03spare time I would say the thing that
53:05I've started doing more this like last
53:07maybe four five months is trying to be a
53:09better cook like at home right um so I I
53:13watch a lot of cooking stuff on YouTube
53:15I always did but I realized that and
53:17this is easy to get into a rut of
53:19basically doing the same shop more or
53:21less every week uh and you know you'll
53:24varied up a bit but there are a lot of
53:25sort of Staples dishes you fall into a
53:27habit of cooking and I was like I don't
53:30know if I want to cook that again do you
53:32know what I mean like I've done that
53:34dish so many times now that it's good
53:37and we all enjoy it but I want to try
53:39something else so I've just trying to
53:41cook slightly more unusual things like
53:43for example Not Unusual things but
53:45things that maybe I hadn't cooked before
53:47so I hadn't cooked a musaka before Mrs F
53:49always did the musaka that was just a
53:51thing that she did so she was like I'd
53:53love it if you did a musaka I was like
53:54can do so made what's i' never done one
53:56before made one from scratch did the
53:58whole thing it's quite a faf but it was
54:00well worth it and it was amazing like it
54:02was genuinely amazing I was like wow
54:03this is this is great and I find that
54:05when I'm cooking when I'm even just
54:06chopping vegetables or cleaning pant and
54:09preparing them to be used getting the
54:11kitchen ready looking up the recipe
54:12following it doing everything measuring
54:14stuff I am at Absolute peace yeah I am
54:17thinking about nothing else I'm very
54:19relaxed I really enjoy it um and I find
54:22that is my zen moment every day is
54:25cooking dinner nice and I think for some
54:27people it would be going to the driving
54:29range and hitting some balls and we all
54:31look for something and there is pressure
54:33when you're cooking you don't want to
54:33[ __ ] up your family's dinner and you
54:35want them to be happy but the payoff is
54:37way better because I feel like if I hit
54:39a good golf shot I'm the only one who
54:40saw that but if I cook a meal that my
54:42whole family enjoys and says oh that was
54:44so good I feel so happy so I think
54:46that's what I've replaced as a sort of
54:49not on not online hobby is is cooking
54:52that's really wholesome dude that's
54:53really good yeah it is good I wish um
54:56I wish I could enjoy cooking I hate it
54:59why why can't you cook well I I mean I
55:02can cook I just I just find it not my
55:05zen place you know oh like I just uh I
55:08need I need something different than
55:09that uh I think your kitchen is a little
55:11bit cramped a a little bit um crazy
55:14there's always something going on in it
55:16there's like there's stuff you know kids
55:19kids kids stuff dirty bottles dirty you
55:22know I don't think you have like it's
55:24not a very Zen space is it it's always I
55:27get the impression that the kitchen is a
55:28noisy my whole house is not as in space
55:31at the moment because of all this crap
55:32going on but soon it soon it will return
55:35back to its its um it's it's its place
55:39of zenis hopefully we'll see yeah lately
55:43I've been using the pressure cooker
55:44quite a lot and I've been doing
55:45different grains I did like some buck
55:47wheat the other day nice I'll do I'll do
55:51different vegetables like I usually like
55:53every afternoon I'll come in from the
55:55office put something in the Press cooker
55:56and then a couple of hours an hour later
55:58when it's done make something outfit um
56:01but yeah I I I'm the same I I thought I
56:03God it's just the same if I'm not
56:05careful it's the same routine of fajitas
56:07green Thai curry regular Curry pasta
56:10with sauce mean like it's just that
56:12those same four things like over and
56:14over yeah um I mean I'm not saying that
56:16that like I'm cooking oh he's he's doing
56:19a unbelievable range of of neverbe seen
56:22dishes I'm just finding recipes like Jac
56:25pepan has a real inspiration for me Ja
56:29Jack P yeah you talked about yeah and
56:32watching him cook and seeing the little
56:33techniques that he does I find that if
56:36if you try and teach me something I I am
56:38so stupid and my memory is so bad that
56:40it's gone instantly but for some reason
56:42when I watch people cooking and I can I
56:44can learn the technique and retain it uh
56:47I think it's cuz it's something I really
56:48like um so you know I've just want to I
56:50want he does some recipes and I'm like
56:52man I could totally do that and I watch
56:54it once and then I've got it in my head
56:55and I know what to do and as the more
56:57you cook the more you can adapt to
56:59things like you can look at ingredients
57:01and see how to assemble them it's really
57:03not most recipes really not that
57:05difficult and they're pretty similar if
57:06it's French it probably involves butter
57:08and probably cream uh if it's Spanish
57:10probably involves rice probably peppers
57:13and some chilies if it's uh Indian food
57:15it's going to basically have garam
57:17masala curry powder onions and ghee like
57:20it's it's you you can assemble things a
57:22lot more easily once you've cooked a few
57:23things um but it's it's fun it's really
57:25enjoyable but I will still say the air
57:27fryer is my favorite thing to cook with
57:30is it still is it still is it still up
57:31there we don't use it every day but when
57:34we do use it it started to drop off well
57:36no it's just it's not it's not exciting
57:38anymore to see it but now it's become
57:40mundane yeah but equally if you get a
57:42quass on from the store you BOS it in
57:44the air fryer for a couple of minutes
57:45suddenly it's crispy in the outside it's
57:46warm all the way through that's way
57:48better you couldn't microwave that you
57:49want to reheat some pizza wash it in the
57:51air fryer all of these things good think
57:53is I I I had a big clean I put my air
57:55fryer away when I was cleaning the
57:57kitchen and I haven't got in out since
57:59CU I forgotten that it was in the
58:00cupboard you know what I mean when it
58:02was out there on the surface I was like
58:03oh let's use this for a thing let's use
58:04this and since I put it away I've never
58:06used it again don't think I would put it
58:08away I don't think I would put it away I
58:10I would I I we keep it out we've just it
58:12takes up so much [ __ ] space on the
58:14top like you've got your toaster your
58:17cattle your [ __ ] microwave your hair
58:20fryer and your pressure cooker and that
58:22basically is the entire kitchen there's
58:24no space to cut stuff so
58:26got a bit of a footprint has it multiple
58:28things away in order to um not to have
58:32anywhere to use yeah I get you I get you
58:35do you uh get an additional I never used
58:38the oven you never used the oven never
58:41used the oven what is that I could I
58:42could get rid of it i' never put
58:44anything in there I never I never use it
58:46for anything I don't use it do you guys
58:48know what I really love one of my
58:50favorite things ever titties lose news
58:52hit me baby let's go
58:56okay I don't have any lose news Sam is
58:58on holiday he hasn't prepared excuse and
59:02neither is Tom this is
59:04unacceptable hold on though that there
59:06was we did a PP and there was some
59:08leftover news from that that we didn't
59:11use we did a sens peee um I mean here's
59:15one from the 25th of Feb uh couple
59:17forced to sit next to dead woman on Long
59:19Haul flight I saw that I saw that um for
59:234 hours apparently dead body they're
59:25traveling Melbourne from from Melbourne
59:28to doar on route to Italy a woman walked
59:30out of the toilet and collapsed 10 hours
59:32into the journey so she died and they
59:34just they tried to wheel her up towards
59:36business class but she was quite a large
59:37lady and they couldn't get her through
59:38the aisle so then they stuck her in a
59:40seat and like you're going to have to
59:42sit next to her sit next to this woman
59:44who's died that is awful oh my God uh
59:48okay how about this um I saw this news
59:51in February so this is this month um
59:54banana mystery deepens as more spotted
59:57in Street uh so tell me
1:00:01[Music]
1:00:03more okay so basically there's this
1:00:06place called beaston right right and
1:00:09wait wait wait is this in the UK in the
1:00:11UK beaston spell it beaston b e e s t o
1:00:15n I think that was popularized by Huey
1:00:17Lewis the heart of rock and rolls in
1:00:20beaston you know a plate of 16 to 20
1:00:24it's pronounced Bon [ __ ] off it's
1:00:27definitely got to be they say the heart
1:00:28of rock and rolls in beaston
1:00:31so and from what I've seen I believe him
1:00:34between 16 and 20 peeled bananas has
1:00:38been appearing on this street corner
1:00:41reliably once a month okay and residents
1:00:45have noticed it it's been a constant in
1:00:47their lives for more than a year uh they
1:00:49appear early in the morning on the
1:00:51second of the month I see them on my way
1:00:53to work and no one's sure what's going
1:00:56on because they they just slowly go mold
1:00:58moldy and and it's some people think
1:01:00it's gross but it's become like a kind
1:01:03of or became like a bit of a viral
1:01:06sensation and people started traveling
1:01:09uh to see it Luke Roberts traveled 3
1:01:11hours from slow to see the the plate of
1:01:14bananas interesting um but it but it
1:01:16apparently had gone missing we came up
1:01:18at 7:00 last night and pl of bananas was
1:01:22God missing um it's ridiculous so yeah
1:01:25they they've they' people are people
1:01:27have been saying you know um we delayed
1:01:30going to the shops until today cuz this
1:01:32route takes us past the bananas it's sad
1:01:35where are these people from India from
1:01:37beaston beaston B Baston Beast beaston I
1:01:41I was the accent threw me there I
1:01:43thought I thought we changed country
1:01:45Mary Mary Smith an 80-year-old resident
1:01:47has lived in the area for 48 years and
1:01:49has never known anything like it I've
1:01:51never known anything like it we we saw
1:01:55him last year we had to come back it
1:01:58makes me laugh I've never seen anything
1:02:01like it my granddaughter who was in
1:02:04lanzerotti heard about it and asked me
1:02:07what was going on with the bananas I've
1:02:09never seen anything like it so someone's
1:02:13leaving bananas on the street that's
1:02:15that's news isn't it like that one
1:02:17incredible how about this one I found
1:02:19this one as well these are the two I
1:02:20found for um Simon's peee but we didn't
1:02:22use them uh Sydney people living in
1:02:25Sydney
1:02:26um if you look on Google Maps you will
1:02:28start seeing like a land landmarks but
1:02:31the landmarks are cats like Friendly
1:02:34Neighborhood
1:02:35Cats I like and so you can go to Google
1:02:38Maps and point you to like a friendly
1:02:40orange cat sometimes they've got the
1:02:43names on them um but yeah you can that
1:02:46people are reviewing them and like
1:02:47rating them um and and talking about how
1:02:50friendly they are and whether you can
1:02:52cuddle them so you could kind of I think
1:02:54it's a [ __ ] brilliant IDE that you
1:02:56can have Google Maps you can walk around
1:02:58Sydney and just find cats as little
1:03:01landmarks and you know give them a
1:03:03little I like that I like that a lot and
1:03:05I'm not even a fan of cats but luckily
1:03:07our cat is not a fan of me either so so
1:03:09yeah some of them are like some of them
1:03:11got hundreds because period kicks a cat
1:03:13and he's cats evil the
1:03:16cat oh so God no I think this is this is
1:03:21the there's I've noticed that there's um
1:03:23there's some cities and some countries
1:03:25with feral cats and there's some cities
1:03:27with feral dogs and the ones with feral
1:03:29cats are always so much
1:03:32better really no you're right I'm just
1:03:35saying if you live somewhere there feral
1:03:37dogs it's a [ __ ] [ __ ] if you live
1:03:39somewhere in there feral cats it's great
1:03:41uh usually like the the worst you're
1:03:43going to get from a feral cat is you
1:03:44might get fleas but feral dogs [ __ ]
1:03:47attack people and [ __ ] like it's it's
1:03:49not great um right what else have I got
1:03:53that's that's all we're going to have to
1:03:54end that's all he's got that's all I got
1:03:56sorry about this enjoy enjoy um yeah
1:04:00sorry that's an embarrassing end of the
1:04:01podcast but that's it that's all that's
1:04:03all we got I mean that's all we got all
1:04:04it for this week we've been making too
1:04:06many podcasts lately guys it's been out
1:04:08of control we've run out of running out
1:04:10of steam this is what happens when we
1:04:12start putting out extra podcast we don't
1:04:13have enough gas y you know I didn't even
1:04:15get to tell you guys about my trip I
1:04:17went to London uh last week did on half
1:04:20term yeah we went for a couple of days
1:04:22uh we were in London to see uh Disney on
1:04:25Ice oh oh Christ how was
1:04:27that you know yeah yeah it's dog well
1:04:31you've told us about it now yeah
1:04:33anything interesting happened my kids
1:04:36really enjoyed it they they loved it um
1:04:38anything else happened not really no we
1:04:40but it was it was it was just a nice it
1:04:42was a nice break we went to uh lots of
1:04:45like museums and we we did a lot of
1:04:47shopping and stuff and the weather was
1:04:49surprisingly pretty decent it was it was
1:04:52all right it was it was a good one short
1:04:54but to Disney On Ice we won uh tickets
1:04:58to Disney On Ice with a backstage pass
1:05:00so we got to meet some of the car so we
1:05:02went to that with the other people who
1:05:03won the competition and we were chatting
1:05:05and hanging out and we got some nibbles
1:05:06and chatted to a couple of people and
1:05:08some people came in dressed as the
1:05:09things that were going to be the stuff
1:05:11whatever and the kids were excited and
1:05:13then the show started it was dog [ __ ] me
1:05:16and Mrs f are bored to out to tears they
1:05:19have a halftime break and we say to the
1:05:21kids right that's it kids time to go
1:05:23they're finished yeah we left and they
1:05:26were like why is everyone else staying I
1:05:28was like they're just slow ignore them
1:05:30we're leaving and we got the [ __ ] out of
1:05:32there it was best you did the full
1:05:34halftime leave yeah oh my gosh dude I
1:05:38wanted I wanted to kill someone it was
1:05:40so bad if I have to hear it's a small
1:05:43world ever again I'm turning violent on
1:05:46Q I can't help it I [ __ ] hate Disney
1:05:49[ __ ] like that oh man wow what a glowing
1:05:52review for Disney On Ice yeah [ __ ] me I
1:05:56I I on the other hand made it through
1:05:58both halves it was impressive you know I
1:06:01I think I just switched myself off you
1:06:02know like as as you often do as a parent
1:06:05you just kind of have to you just kind
1:06:07of have to find that that inner place
1:06:09you know where uh you just don't really
1:06:12exist anymore and hope that everybody
1:06:14leaves you alone y so I did that for
1:06:16like two hours it was good you zone out
1:06:17and play football manager yeah you're
1:06:20getting ready getting ready for the next
1:06:22sesh you know yeah well there you go I
1:06:25told you guys anyway there we go we're
1:06:27all up to date yeah we're up to date all
1:06:29right I guess that this week we'll see
1:06:30you guys next time see youe byebye

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