Trainspotting Is 30! | The Graham Norton Show — Transcript
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- 0:00It's an exciting time to be Ewan
- 0:01McGregor. Uh nearly 30 years since
- 0:03Trainspotting, but you've just received
- 0:05an honor in the East End of Glasgow. I
- 0:08don't know if you've seen your mural. Uh
- 0:10here it is. That Oh my god.
- 0:13Oh my god.
- 0:15What? That's amazing. Yeah. I hadn't
- 0:18[applause] seen it. I thought I had seen
- 0:19it, but now I realize I hadn't cuz it
- 0:21says that. Shaming Scottish. That is an
- 0:24image that's really ripe for corruption.
- 0:27>> [laughter]
- 0:29>> SO WE NEED TO STEP BACK THERE AND SOME
- 0:31PAINT.
- 0:31>> YES. YES.
- 0:33>> [laughter]
- 0:36>> YOU'VE GOT FIVE TIMES THAT HEAD, MY
- 0:37FRIEND. IT WON'T TAKE LONG. IT WON'T be
- 0:38long. At least it looks like you're
- 0:40really enjoying it.
- 0:41>> [laughter]
- 0:43>> Ready and waiting for it. Really ready.
- 0:44Ready.
- 0:45Really ready for it.
- 0:46>> [laughter]
- 0:46>> Oh, mercy. I've showed that sequence to
- 0:49my kids, you know. They They're This is
- 0:51the toilet sequence in Trainspotting.
- 0:53>> Yeah. Some of my kids are older now, so
- 0:54they've seen Trainspotting, but my
- 0:55younger ones hadn't and
- 0:57showing that I said, "You've got to just
- 0:58watch this." So I just showed them the
- 1:00toilet. I think it was my I know it was
- 1:02about 10.
- 1:03>> [laughter]
- 1:03>> I said, "Look, watch this." And I showed
- 1:05them the scene
- 1:06where I'm in the the worst when it
- 1:08starts the worst toilet in Scotland, you
- 1:10know. And I I thought it'd be quite
- 1:12funny and as I'm showing it to her, I'm
- 1:14realizing like
- 1:15what am I doing? Like
- 1:16>> [laughter]
- 1:17>> I'm my brains out and my
- 1:19daughter's going, "Who is my father?"
- 1:22>> [laughter]
- 1:24>> What the is this?
- 1:25Uh but anyway, then it goes all serene
- 1:27when I do the swimming. And then I had
- 1:28to explain why I was down there. You got
- 1:30that?
- 1:31>> [laughter]
- 1:31>> Oh, it was a nightmare, anyway. Scarring
- 1:33your children.
- 1:35Hey, LET'S START THE SHOW.
- 1:36>> [cheering]
- 1:38>> NOW, UH DANNY, OBVIOUSLY ON SET, you're
- 1:41in charge. Apparently, yeah.
- 1:43>> On a night like tonight, are you in
- 1:44charge of the set?
- 1:46>> [laughter]
- 1:46>> You just wait and see. You'll You'll
- 1:48quickly find out I'm not.
- 1:49>> The answer is no.
- 1:50>> Yeah.
- 1:51So uh welcome back uh Trainspotting.
- 1:53Sunday nights was the big premiere in
- 1:55Edinburgh. Look at you all. And that
- 1:58must have been a great night for you
- 1:59all. Yeah. It was fantastic. The whole
- 2:01of Edinburgh seemed to turn out in the
- 2:02streets. It was wonderful.
- 2:04And at least now, Johnny you can you
- 2:05remember this one now? This one we
- 2:07remember, I think, yeah. It was only on
- 2:09Sunday, in fairness.
- 2:11But but but this isn't it.
- 2:12>> [cough and clears throat]
- 2:13>> We've got the last one. This is you 20
- 2:15years ago. And is it you guys don't
- 2:17remember this one?
- 2:19No.
- 2:19>> [laughter]
- 2:19>> I remember. Not really.
- 2:22Not really at all.
- 2:23I really remember it.
- 2:24I don't remember. But and you all look
- 2:26so happy and lovely. And you standing
- 2:27across and then you get to Robert
- 2:29Carlyle.
- 2:30Did no one give you THE DRESS CODE?
- 2:31>> [laughter]
- 2:34>> WAS IT COME AS YOU ARE?
- 2:36SEE, I do remember it because uh I'd
- 2:38been be filming in Nicaragua, fact your
- 2:40fact. And of course, there was no
- 2:43This is days before really internet. So,
- 2:45we had no idea that any of the kind of
- 2:47the build-up to the first film was
- 2:48happening. So, uh I came across that the
- 2:51very night of the premiere. I landed at
- 2:53Heathrow.
- 2:54And I seen his face in all these
- 2:56magazines.
- 2:57This is something's happening here. This
- 2:59is
- 3:00This is bizarre. I'll get MY SHEEPSKIN
- 3:02JACKET.
- 3:02>> [laughter]
- 3:05>> THIS IS A SPECIAL NIGHT.
- 3:08BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS wearing when I
- 3:09come off the plane.
- 3:10>> [laughter]
- 3:11>> That's what it said. Oh, it's all
- 3:12changed now. All changed now. And now,
- 3:16the person I I must introduce say hello
- 3:17to is Ewen cuz Spud was such a kind of
- 3:20strong visual look that they Like
- 3:23>> [laughter]
- 3:23>> so, people even now it's used as kind of
- 3:26reference. Do you know, are you aware of
- 3:28what happened in Utah? Do you know this?
- 3:30Oh, I Your researcher told me about
- 3:32this. I I It does ring a bell, yes. That
- 3:34So, basically, someone in Utah, this was
- 3:37only a couple years ago, committed a
- 3:38crime, okay? And they they didn't have a
- 3:41photograph of the criminal they were
- 3:43looking for. So, this is the genuine
- 3:46wanted poster.
- 3:47>> Oh.
- 3:49>> [laughter]
- 3:55[laughter]
- 3:55>> It's something LIKE THAT.
- 3:59HE PROBABLY looks like this.
- 4:02And did he have a catch up with him? I
- 4:03don't Don't go to Utah would be my
- 4:05advice.
- 4:06>> [laughter]
- 4:12[applause]
- 4:13>> Oh, dear. What are we going to do cuz
- 4:15you kind of think that Trainspotting
- 4:16wasn't that long ago?
- 4:17>> Yeah. And then what do you Do you all
- 4:19look like children in the flashbacks? I
- 4:22mean, how much
- 4:23How much did you want this to stand
- 4:25alone? And how much did you Cuz it's a
- 4:28delicate balance of how self-referential
- 4:30it would be. Yeah, you can't just repeat
- 4:32it. And in fact, if you're going to do
- 4:33that, you do it straight away, which is
- 4:34the tradition with a sequel. So, you've
- 4:36got to let the 20 years that has passed
- 4:38stand for the main element of the film
- 4:41really and the and the and the catch up.
- 4:43And I and I think it it it it does this
- 4:45weird thing. I mean, you know this as
- 4:47well. If you look back at you beginning
- 4:49this show compared to what you look like
- 4:51now.
- 4:51>> All right, I'm a lot older, thank you.
- 4:54>> [laughter]
- 4:54>> But television has that effect.
- 4:57That's all right. He's a guest.
- 5:01Television [laughter] has that amazing
- 5:02film, television. It freezes you in
- 5:04time. And people have an image, I
- 5:05remember Graham on his first show. And
- 5:07they have that image in their mind and
- 5:08then they meet you in the street or they
- 5:10Yes.
- 5:11And they're like, "No, I don't want him
- 5:12to look like that." AND HE
- 5:16AND WE DO WE SO, did I just do this
- 5:18>> [laughter]
- 5:19>> all right?
- 5:21YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU KNOW WHAT I
- 5:22MEAN? I MEAN
- 5:24WELL, I'VE MELTED. I'VE MELTED, DANNY.
- 5:27IT WENT IN A HOLE.
- 5:28>> [laughter]
- 5:30>> But you know what I mean? And then and
- 5:31then SUDDENLY
- 5:33YES, WE'VE ESTABLISHED I UNDERSTAND I'M
- 5:36MUCH OLDER. [laughter]
- 5:37And and then you and then you and then
- 5:39you unfreeze them in time and you bring
- 5:40them next door to each other like this
- 5:42and people can see them. And you do see
- 5:43these occasional glimpses of them like
- 5:45in the original film. And it's very
- 5:47moving and it returns these guys to the
- 5:49common pool cuz it's something we all
- 5:51face. Yeah. Whether we're aware of it or
- 5:53not, yeah, it's in the post for
- 5:55everyone, this aging thing.
- 5:56>> And also the bonds of shared history.
- 5:58We're talking I mean, I was talking to
- 5:59you backstage, that idea that those
- 6:00bonds of shared history as you get older
- 6:02take on an importance they never had.
- 6:04Absolutely. And I was saying to you all
- 6:06backstage, I loved it. I loved it. All
- 6:08those things you kind of worried about,
- 6:09have you left it too long and
- 6:11everything. But actually the point is
- 6:13that it's 20 years later, isn't it? It's
- 6:15kind of like a special effect, isn't it?
- 6:16Age. It's almost like
- 6:19our our big
- 6:20>> [laughter]
- 6:21>> big money special effect.
- 6:23>> Yes, no, cuz it's cuz it's like watching
- 6:24children act where children what a
- 6:25convincing 6-year-old. But you all look
- 6:2720 years older, it's excellent.
- 6:32It's amazing.
- 6:33>> [laughter]
- 6:34>> Put a lot of work into it.
- 6:36You know.
- 6:37>> Really worked on
- 6:37>> Really hard, yeah. So at the end of the
- 6:39first film, Renton, obviously you walked
- 6:41off with all the money, 16 grand. So at
- 6:4320 years later, where are we now?
- 6:45Where's Spud as the movie begins? Spud
- 6:47is really not in a good place. He's been
- 6:49trying his best, struggling through the
- 6:50last 20 years to
- 6:52uh be a better man, the man that his
- 6:55wife and child need him to be.
- 6:58And it's devastating for him that he is
- 7:01crippled with his
- 7:03uh addictions and is unable to
- 7:06uh break free of them. And good for you,
- 7:09but it is kind of amazing he's still
- 7:10alive. It is it is amazing, but I mean
- 7:13there's there's there's plenty people
- 7:14you could say that about, you know, let
- 7:16rock and roll is littered with those
- 7:17cats that are still
- 7:19remarkably uh
- 7:21>> [laughter]
- 7:21>> sprightly, you know, in their in their
- 7:2360s and 70s right now. So you know, I
- 7:25think there's there's there's life in
- 7:26the old Spud yet.
- 7:29And uh Begbie, what's happened to
- 7:31Begbie?
- 7:32Begbie's exactly where you expect him to
- 7:33be. He's in the nick.
- 7:35>> [laughter]
- 7:36>> He's been there for the last 20 years
- 7:38festering,
- 7:39thinking about this guy,
- 7:41>> [laughter]
- 7:41>> the day he can meet him and kill him.
- 7:45And uh it's most the beginning Sick Boy
- 7:47is the most kind of surprising what's
- 7:48happened to him in the 20 years.
- 7:50Yeah, I mean I I I
- 7:52I'm I was I kind of like was not that
- 7:53surprised that he's he's sort of stuck
- 7:55in Iraq cuz what That's one thing I
- 7:57really loved about about where he is in
- 7:59in the in the new film is that he's uh
- 8:01his powers have waned cuz people used to
- 8:03think Sick Boy was such a cool character
- 8:04and I I thought it was interesting to
- 8:06look at him and and the fact that he's
- 8:08stuck in the same circles of behavior
- 8:11and he's sort of struggling in life and
- 8:12he thinks he's winning and he's still a
- 8:14chancer, but he's really um making bad
- 8:17decisions and and that's led to a lot of
- 8:19frustration and bitterness. So, there
- 8:20are some no parallels with my own life
- 8:23at all.
- 8:25Beautiful.
- 8:26>> [laughter]
- 8:27>> Were you worried about the movie going
- 8:29back and doing a Scottish accent again?
- 8:31Uh yes. I mean not worried, but I
- 8:34approached it differently. I I kept up
- 8:35the accent the whole time filming the
- 8:37first one cuz you know, no one knew who
- 8:39we were. I could go to a pub in Glasgow
- 8:41and just wing it. And if you can if you
- 8:43can get away with it in a pub in
- 8:44Glasgow, you can get away with it
- 8:45anywhere, right? Uh and THIS TIME
- 8:47>> [laughter]
- 8:55[laughter]
- 8:57>> UM YEAH, SO I WORKED WITH A DIALECT
- 8:59COACH THIS TIME around cuz I cuz I cuz
- 9:01you DON'T DRINK ANYMORE.
- 9:03>> [laughter]
- 9:09[laughter]
- 9:10>> AND YEAH, I TRIED TO summon my
- 9:14>> [laughter]
- 9:15>> I tried to summon Sick Boy's ACCENT
- 9:17MORE.
- 9:19>> [laughter]
- 9:20>> YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE THE TIME
- 9:21BEING RIGHT NOW, but one I suppose one
- 9:23of the things about coming back
- 9:23[clears throat] was that one of the
- 9:24problems about all of it was that you
- 9:26guys for how many years did you not talk
- 9:28for? Yeah, quite a bit.
- 9:30>> time, yeah. Yeah, sadly, yeah. No, and I
- 9:32don't mean to trivialize cuz it sound
- 9:33it's an awful thing. You know, you
- 9:36really liked each other, you loved
- 9:37working together, and then and then it
- 9:39it and what was it was it one bust-up or
- 9:41was it a dribbling apart? Well, it was
- 9:43just a it was just over a film that um
- 9:46it was a misunderstanding and a
- 9:47mishandling of
- 9:49it was a it was just over a film that I
- 9:51thought
- 9:51>> This is This is The Beach.
- 9:52>> Yeah. Yeah. And it did it's it's a big
- 9:55regret of mine that it went on for so
- 9:56very long. It's a shame we didn't work
- 9:58together all those years cuz not because
- 9:59of any particular film.
- 10:01And it didn't really matter about The
- 10:03Beach. It was never about The Beach. It
- 10:04was about our friendship and the and how
- 10:06much um I'd I felt like Danny's I was in
- 10:09through the first three movies, you
- 10:11know, Shallow Grave, Trainspotting, and
- 10:12then A Life Less Ordinary. And then I
- 10:14wasn't in the fourth and I was a bit
- 10:16made me a bit rudderless. I didn't quite
- 10:18get it and then
- 10:20yeah, we didn't we didn't speak for a
- 10:21long time, which was such a waste. Cuz
- 10:24it was at The Beach it it began with a a
- 10:26lunch was is the lunch when it's when
- 10:28you told him he wasn't going to be in
- 10:29The Beach? Yeah, and I think we
- 10:31I handled it very very badly and I I've
- 10:34apologized to you and then
- 10:36I kind of feel a shame about it that's
- 10:37very difficult to you know, it's one of
- 10:40the things weirdly that the film's about
- 10:41is about trying to express emotions and
- 10:44I felt a great shame about it really. I
- 10:45was not proud of the way I handled it
- 10:48and he actually handled it with enormous
- 10:51grace cuz you know, you you you you see
- 10:54these actors and they do big things and
- 10:56you hear these stories about them and he
- 10:58handles all his world with enormous
- 10:59grace and and and courage actually,
- 11:02which is the definition of grace. They
- 11:04say courage is grace under pressure,
- 11:06which he showed enormously. So um and
- 11:09and we had this thing we we had this
- 11:10film this Slumdog Millionaire, which was
- 11:12doing amazing, picking up all these
- 11:14amazing things and and somebody asked
- 11:16him he didn't tell me somebody asked him
- 11:18whether he'd present this kind of
- 11:19promotional award to me on on which is
- 11:22one of the things you do on the route to
- 11:23the Oscars and stuff like that. And he
- 11:25did and he stood up on stage and he made
- 11:27this amazing speech.
- 11:29And I was like in tears backstage. It
- 11:30was like, "Oh, god." So, yeah.
- 11:33Um I'm very grateful to him. And when
- 11:36this happens in my life, if friends of
- 11:38mine if this happens, I always really
- 11:40unsuccessfully try to interfere and
- 11:42broker a peace. Did any of you try to
- 11:45get involved or did you just go, "Whoa,
- 11:47I'm leaving that alone."
- 11:49We had our own feuds going on.
- 11:51>> [laughter]
- 11:53>> No one's spoken to you in 15 years.
- 11:56Yeah. I was really upset about it, so
- 11:58upset I actually did the BEACH WE DID.
- 12:00>> [laughter]
- 12:03[applause]
- 12:07>> HASHTAG TEAM DANNY.
- 12:09>> [laughter]
- 12:10>> DANNY, you've made huge films, 28 Days
- 12:13Later, 127 Hours, Trainspotting, all
- 12:16these things. You've made films that And
- 12:17less successful. And I
- 12:20Which one?
- 12:21>> [laughter]
- 12:22>> I can't name them.
- 12:23Looking great.
- 12:26It's gloves off now.
- 12:28>> [laughter]
- 12:28>> So,
- 12:29but I just wondered as a director, what
- 12:31is the
- 12:32maybe you never know or is there a bit
- 12:34in the process? Is it in the edit? Is is
- 12:36there a moment when you kind of go,
- 12:38"Hmm." Yeah. You
- 12:41You should really you should believe in
- 12:42them all the time, but I think you I
- 12:44think deep down you do know. Um what's
- 12:46what's much more difficult to know is
- 12:47when you know something's going to be a
- 12:48hit. No one knows that. It's like what
- 12:51Bobby said, you just don't know.
- 12:52Otherwise there'd only ever be hit
- 12:53films. Why would they release ones that
- 12:55won't wouldn't be a hit?
- 12:56>> That's a very good point.
- 12:57>> [laughter]
- 12:58>> And also no one tries to make a bad
- 12:59film. No, no, you do Well, I don't know
- 13:01actually, sometimes.
- 13:02>> [laughter]
- 13:03>> But no, you you try not to do that,
- 13:05yeah. Begbie. Begbie, we must talk about
- 13:07Begbie because for you that must have
- 13:09been like everyone presumably after that
- 13:11film was just scared of you.
- 13:14Yes.
- 13:16They still are. [laughter]
- 13:18No, I was I've played quite a few, but
- 13:20it was great because it gave me an awful
- 13:21lot of other kind of, you know, Begbie
- 13:23type parts to play. So, it gave me a
- 13:24kind of career's worth of that, but um
- 13:26anybody that knows me knows I'm
- 13:27absolutely nothing like that.
- 13:30>> [laughter]
- 13:31>> But you were just
- 13:32honestly
- 13:33No, BUT I LIKED I LIKED THAT ON EITHER
- 13:35SIDE OF TRAINSPOTTING, YOU were being
- 13:37the nicest policeman in the world. You
- 13:38were being Hamish Macbeth with your
- 13:40lovely little Westie terrier.
- 13:42Oh, good cheers, mate.
- 13:44>> [applause]
- 13:46>> No, it was lovely, but it was a
- 13:47fantastic part to play. These kind of
- 13:49parts, these psychopaths, these are the
- 13:51These mean you can lose yourself. You
- 13:52know, I mean you can
- 13:53your imagination runs riot, and
- 13:55something like Begbie is just an
- 13:56absolute pleasure to play. But even your
- 13:58son is aware of Begbie.
- 14:00Yes, he is.
- 14:01>> [laughter]
- 14:02>> But how old is your son? He's 10.
- 14:05They're 10 and 12. I've got two sons, 10
- 14:06and 12. My daughter's 14. Has he seen
- 14:08the film? No, he's not, but he's he's
- 14:10he's aware of Begbie, and he was
- 14:12certainly aware when I was shooting the
- 14:13film
- 14:14last spring time there, cuz I didn't
- 14:16stay at home
- 14:18when I was playing the part, because
- 14:20you kind of you've got a lot of stuff in
- 14:22your head when you're playing a part
- 14:23like that, and you don't necessarily you
- 14:25don't want to kind of let it go every
- 14:27day when you go home, because you need
- 14:28to dredge it back up the next day.
- 14:30So, it's best to kind of stay away for
- 14:32the for the family generally speaking,
- 14:33because you don't want any of that
- 14:34chance any of that kind of slipping out
- 14:36at all. But he was very aware that I was
- 14:38playing Begbie.
- 14:40And uh he
- 14:41he dressed up accordingly when I went
- 14:43home one night. I think we've got a
- 14:45little picture of him. What?
- 14:47>> [laughter]
- 14:52>> He was brilliant. He disappeared
- 14:53upstairs. He saw me coming and he
- 14:54disappeared upstairs and he come back
- 14:55down with the mustache coming.
- 14:56>> [laughter]
- 15:00[applause]
- 15:02>> Uh there's one thing we haven't talked
- 15:03about We haven't talked about tonight,
- 15:04and that is that iconic poster, the 1996
- 15:07publicity campaign. And because again,
- 15:10it it broke the mold. That isn't what a
- 15:12film poster looked like. Is it Is it
- 15:15true that this was the day after Was it
- 15:17the wrap party?
- 15:19I You're asking us like we would
- 15:21remember.
- 15:22>> [laughter]
- 15:23>> The story the legend is that you weren't
- 15:25feeling the best for this.
- 15:27I think that's right. I think me I
- 15:29remember traveling in a taxi with you at
- 15:31like 5:00 a.m. in the morning to go to
- 15:33Glasgow Airport
- 15:35after the wrap party so that we could go
- 15:37down and do this shoot
- 15:39in London.
- 15:39>> Is that when I blinded you with my
- 15:41Cockney accent?
- 15:42>> Yeah, and then he started I don't really
- 15:43know him Johnny for the entire shoot as
- 15:45a as a Scotsman and then and then in the
- 15:47taxi after the wrap party he started
- 15:49talking to me in his own accent and I
- 15:51was really disorientated and
- 15:57>> [laughter]
- 15:59>> That was just as a magic trick. I
- 16:00noticed
- 16:01I see Kelly obviously not here, Diane
- 16:04not here. So I thought just as a treat
- 16:06if I
- 16:08I include me Kelly. If we could recreate
- 16:11if we could recreate this very very
- 16:12quickly. So if if you stand up and get
- 16:16out.
- 16:18You know just to there just to there. So
- 16:20so I don't know what to order. So you're
- 16:21down this end you're down this end
- 16:23Robert and then what is it? It's
- 16:26Robert then then I'd be in the gap then
- 16:28who's next then
- 16:30and then you're at the end. Okay. Now I
- 16:32do have some props.
- 16:34>> [laughter]
- 16:39>> Yeah, did you know we were doing this
- 16:41Ewan? You you look
- 16:42>> [laughter]
- 16:42>> I've shaved my head specially for this.
- 16:45Yeah, that's for you and a mustache and
- 16:48a cigarette.
- 16:50They're Spock's glasses.
- 16:53Now
- 16:54Johnny if you want to go you do you want
- 16:56to go full Bond? How can I not? Okay, do
- 16:58it do IT DO IT. OKAY.
- 17:00>> [applause]
- 17:02>> YEAH.
- 17:04I'VE GOT MY KELLY HERE.
- 17:05>> [applause]
- 17:06>> OKAY.
- 17:08OKAY, NOW.
- 17:09Now
- 17:10if we if we we put up the graphics
- 17:12>> [laughter]
- 17:14>> You're you're that way. That way I'm
- 17:16this way. So, you're there.
- 17:19But that Yeah, you're good. Okay.
- 17:22And we're all doing it to that camera.
- 17:23See the good one right there? So, which
- 17:24one am I leaning as Kelly? I'm leaning
- 17:26towards you, I think.
- 17:30Are we all doing IT? ARE WE ALL DOING
- 17:31IT? YEAH.
- 17:33>> [cheering]
- 17:35>> WE DID IT.
- 17:36>> [applause]
- 17:36>> THERE YOU GO.
- 17:37EXCELLENT.
- 17:38BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
- 17:40YOU VERY MUCH.
- 17:41Have a seat, too. Have a seat.
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