Top 5 Objections And How To Overcome Them — Transcript
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- 0:00In this training video, I'm going to
- 0:01show you the top five objections that
- 0:02almost every salesperson gets, and I'm
- 0:04going to show you the word tracks that's
- 0:06going to help you overcome them. Come
- 0:07over here to the whiteboard. I'm going
- 0:08to show you how this works. [music] All
- 0:09right, top five objections, and I'm
- 0:11going to show you there are
- 0:12subcategories of these objections, and
- 0:14then I'm going to give you the word
- 0:15tracks. Number one, think it over
- 0:17objection. I'm going to go over that
- 0:19with you. Price, we don't have the
- 0:20money, it's too expensive, all that type
- 0:23of stuff. Spouse objection, not the
- 0:25right time, uncertainty, fear, lack of
- 0:27trust. Now, let's take a look at these.
- 0:29Think it over objection. They could tell
- 0:30you something like this, "Hey, I just
- 0:32need more time. I need to sleep on it. I
- 0:34need to keep looking around. I'll get
- 0:36back to you." How many of you lose sales
- 0:39from that? What about this? Money
- 0:41objection, "It's too expensive. We can't
- 0:43afford it. We don't have the budget."
- 0:45How many do you lose from those
- 0:48objections? What about the spouse
- 0:50objection? "Need to talk to my spouse.
- 0:51This is just how we make decisions.
- 0:53There's always these nuances." And I'm
- 0:55going to show you how to overcome those.
- 0:58Now's not the right time. It could be
- 1:00maybe next quarter. Let's do this next
- 1:02quarter. I've got too much going on. I'm
- 1:04too busy in my life. Now, there are
- 1:06going to be different tweaks based off
- 1:08what you sell, and I'm going to show you
- 1:09some industry-specific examples. So,
- 1:11stay tuned here. And then we have
- 1:13uncertainty, fear, lack of trust
- 1:15objections. That's more like, "Hey, what
- 1:17if it doesn't doesn't work out for me?
- 1:19Or what if I don't get results? Or
- 1:20what's your guarantee?" Depending on
- 1:22what you sell. Or "How do I know this
- 1:24will work for me? Or I've tried this in
- 1:26the past. Or I saw negative reviews
- 1:28online." Now, I want you to think about
- 1:30all those objections I just named. How
- 1:32many sales do you lose every single
- 1:35week, every single month, every single
- 1:38year because you don't have the word
- 1:40tracks to overcome them. Okay, but we're
- 1:42going to fix that starting today. This
- 1:44is going to be fun. Now, sit back and
- 1:46relax. This is going to be a little bit
- 1:47of a training video, so you want to sit
- 1:49back. This is not going to be 10 or 15
- 1:50minutes. We're going to go a little bit
- 1:51longer cuz I want to get you some
- 1:53results here. Now, first of all, I want
- 1:55you to actually start thinking about
- 1:57this. What actually causes
- 2:00an objection to happen?
- 2:02Have you really thought about what
- 2:03causes a prospect to give you an
- 2:06objection? Like did they wake up that
- 2:08morning before you knocked on the door
- 2:10if you sell door-to-door, before you
- 2:12cold called, before you uh let's say you
- 2:14had an inbound appointment you booked on
- 2:16they booked on your calendar, you meet
- 2:17them on Zoom or you meet them in their
- 2:19home or maybe you're selling to a
- 2:20company or meeting them at their office.
- 2:22Did they plan out the objection? Did
- 2:24they say, "You know, no matter what that
- 2:25salesperson says, no matter if it solves
- 2:27all my problems, it gets me everything
- 2:29I've ever wanted, I know it's the thing
- 2:31I'm supposed to do, I'm still going to
- 2:34give them an objection at the end."
- 2:36Unlikely, okay? So, we know that there's
- 2:39something that we are saying, there's
- 2:42something maybe we're asking or how
- 2:44we're asking, our tonality that is
- 2:47triggering uncertainty. Now, when we
- 2:49trigger uncertainty in the brain, okay,
- 2:52that leads to
- 2:54objections. All right, are you following
- 2:56me here? Make sure you're following me,
- 2:57this is important to you. Now, I'm going
- 2:58to go over this, this is really
- 3:00important for you as well.
- 3:02There are really only three main
- 3:05objections, core of these objections,
- 3:07okay? There's either real objections or
- 3:10what we call smoke screen objections,
- 3:12okay? Now, real objections come down to
- 3:14these three things. This is pretty much
- 3:16for every industry. At 7th Level we
- 3:19train every industry in the planet now,
- 3:21according to Forbes, 163 different
- 3:23verticals, all the subcategories, okay?
- 3:25It always comes down to money,
- 3:27they don't see the value, maybe they
- 3:28don't think it's going to work for them
- 3:30or the best solution, or they don't feel
- 3:32like they have the time. Now, there's
- 3:34different parts of this, but money,
- 3:36value, or time really come down to this,
- 3:39the prospect has a fear
- 3:42of change. So, the core of you getting
- 3:45any objection, the five objections I
- 3:46listed, any other objections I haven't
- 3:49listed, money, value, time, the core
- 3:52root of that, it boils down to they just
- 3:54have a fear of change. Now, what has to
- 3:58happen? The prospect has to give you
- 4:00money before they can see what's on the
- 4:03other side of that change. Are you
- 4:05getting this? Okay, so they had to give
- 4:07you the money before they can see what
- 4:09that change looks like. And why is that
- 4:11scary to the brain? You see, the brain
- 4:14whenever God put the first humans here
- 4:16on the earth, you know, millions of
- 4:17years ago, was never designed for us to
- 4:19thrive. It was simply designed to keep
- 4:21us safe, all right? To keep us kind of
- 4:23in that, I guess, that status quo, just
- 4:25to keep us kind of there. And because
- 4:27the brain, when it senses something is
- 4:29new or something that is unknown or it's
- 4:31not familiar with it, even though it
- 4:33might not like what it currently has,
- 4:35it's like it's last attempt to keep you
- 4:37safe. So, it kind of pulls them back.
- 4:40That fear comes up like, "What if it
- 4:41doesn't work out? What if I spend the
- 4:43money and don't get the return? What if
- 4:45I don't really have time and I buy it
- 4:47and I just waste my time, okay?" So,
- 4:49just realize that's where it comes. And
- 4:51really, every objection boils down to
- 4:53it's just a limiting belief.
- 4:55So, really objections are just limiting
- 4:57beliefs. And that's a good thing because
- 4:59I'm going to teach you how to overcome
- 5:01limiting beliefs. Now, remember as well,
- 5:04if it's not If it doesn't boil down to
- 5:06money, value, or time, it's typically a
- 5:08smoke screen objection. Like, "I want to
- 5:11think it over."
- 5:13That's a smoke screen objection. We all
- 5:14know this isn't a real objection. Uh
- 5:16does the prospect just go back for 3
- 5:18weeks and and put on Excel spreadsheet
- 5:20and write out the pros and the cons of
- 5:22your solution and think it through?
- 5:24Unlikely. It's just a smoke screen.
- 5:26There's a real concern, they just don't
- 5:27want to tell you it, okay? Now, I'm
- 5:29going to show you this as well before we
- 5:31get into the word tracks. So, write this
- 5:32down. It's important for you. Three-step
- 5:35formula to overcome objections. Number
- 5:37one, first of all, I need to clarify.
- 5:39Like, what is the real objection? See,
- 5:42most sales people, when they hear
- 5:43objection, what do we do? We just We
- 5:46have this like canned rebuttal that
- 5:47maybe our sales manager told us to say
- 5:50and we just kind of throw it out. But we
- 5:52don't really understand
- 5:54what the real objection is because if a
- 5:56prospect says, "I don't have the money
- 5:58for it." Does that mean they don't have
- 6:00the money today? Does that mean they
- 6:02don't see the value in it so they don't
- 6:04think the money is going to be a good
- 6:06use? Does that mean they think it's too
- 6:07expensive? Does that mean that they want
- 6:10to negotiate a better price? Does that
- 6:11mean that they don't have the money till
- 6:12next week? So we don't really know what
- 6:15that means. We don't want to assume we
- 6:16know. So first of all, we want to
- 6:18clarify to find out what the real
- 6:20objection is. That way we know what
- 6:21we're dealing with. That's smart. Now,
- 6:24once we know what the objection is,
- 6:26we're then going to de-frame the
- 6:28objection. Now, what does that mean?
- 6:31That means I need to take them out of
- 6:33their current belief system. What is a
- 6:36belief system? Okay, it's a way of
- 6:38thinking. If they believe they don't
- 6:40have time, I need to take them out of
- 6:42that. That's a de-frame. I need to take
- 6:44them out of that and I need to reframe
- 6:46them into a new belief system. Of course
- 6:50they have the time or maybe they don't
- 6:52uh maybe the time maybe they thought
- 6:54it'd take too much time but maybe it
- 6:56doesn't really take as much time as they
- 6:57thought. Okay, whatever that is. I need
- 6:59to install or implant a new belief
- 7:00system. So you're going to see me
- 7:01clarify, de-frame the objection, and
- 7:04reframe them into overcoming that
- 7:06objection themselves. Are you getting
- 7:09what I'm throwing down? Okay, yes. All
- 7:11right, let's move on. Now, first
- 7:12objection.
- 7:14Okay, let's go to think it over first,
- 7:15right? This seems like it's a popular
- 7:17one. Now,
- 7:19let me show you a few things that you
- 7:20can do to really help this cuz I want to
- 7:23make sure everybody understands
- 7:25think it over, like I said earlier, is a
- 7:27what?
- 7:28This is a, write this down, smoke screen
- 7:34objection, okay? We all know that the
- 7:37prospect does not sit down and think
- 7:40this over, okay? How many times have you
- 7:43been presented with something from a
- 7:45salesperson and you knew it was going to
- 7:47solve your problems, you knew it would
- 7:49get the results you wanted, you know,
- 7:52you know, something was there and you
- 7:53still told the salesperson, "Let me
- 7:55think it over. Let me sleep on it. Let
- 7:57me get back to you." Did you just go
- 8:00think it through for several days on
- 8:02end? Unlikely,
- 8:04okay? So, if we're doing that, it's
- 8:06unlikely that prospects are really
- 8:08thinking it over. It's just a
- 8:09smokescreen. There's a real concern. I
- 8:11need to find out what the real concern
- 8:13is and then overcome the real concern.
- 8:16So many sales people try to overcome
- 8:18this like it's an objection, but it's
- 8:21not an objection. They just don't want
- 8:23to tell you what the real concern is and
- 8:24so you're battling You're just battling
- 8:26for no reason cuz of that You're not
- 8:27even knowing what they're really
- 8:28concerned about. Now, a way to to help
- 8:31you understand this here. Okay, remember
- 8:33I talked to you about the three
- 8:35really things that objections boil down
- 8:37to. It's either the money, they don't
- 8:39see the value in it, or they don't feel
- 8:41like they have enough time. Now, I want
- 8:43to figure out, is this really When they
- 8:44say, "I want to think it over." Is it
- 8:46really they just don't have the money?
- 8:48Or maybe they don't think the money will
- 8:49be a good use. Maybe they don't think
- 8:51the value is there, that it's going to
- 8:53get in the result. Or maybe they don't
- 8:54feel like they have the time. Let's say
- 8:56if you're selling SaaS, they don't feel
- 8:57like their their team of
- 9:00uh technicians have the time to install
- 9:02it or something, whatever it is, or run
- 9:03it, you know, just depends on what you
- 9:05sell, okay? Now, just a word of advice.
- 9:09When I show you these examples,
- 9:11depending on your industry, we will make
- 9:14tweaks to those. Now, we train every
- 9:16industry in the world. I can't make
- 9:192,500 tweaks in a 30- or 40-minute
- 9:22YouTube video. So, I'll show you a few
- 9:24examples, but we'll leave a number down
- 9:26here if you want more industry-specific
- 9:28help, you can probably text us and we'll
- 9:29see if we can help you, okay? Now, let's
- 9:32say I go into my last closing question.
- 9:34We call these NEP Q commitment
- 9:36questions. If you're not a client yet,
- 9:38NPQ stands for neuro emotional
- 9:40persuasion questioning. And I go in and
- 9:42say, "Hey, do you feel like this could
- 9:43be the Do you feel like this could be
- 9:45the answer for you?"
- 9:47Now, let's say they come back and they
- 9:48say,
- 9:50"Well, I do, but I just need some time
- 9:52to really, you know, think this through.
- 9:54Well, you know, I do, I just I need some
- 9:56time to really, you know, kind of sleep
- 9:58on it." Okay? So, instantly, I'm going
- 10:00to say, "Well, besides, you know, just
- 10:01wanting to you know, besides just
- 10:03wanting to think it through, why do you
- 10:05feel like it is, though?"
- 10:06Now, depending on what they say here, if
- 10:09they're like, "Well, I I really like it
- 10:11because of X and Y and Z," what type of
- 10:14an objection did I just eliminate?
- 10:17The value. Cuz they just told me, "Well,
- 10:19I like it because of X and Y and Z."
- 10:22Now, depending on how they say that,
- 10:24their tone, I always say, "Listen to
- 10:26what the prospect means, not just what
- 10:29they say." So, if they're like, "Well,
- 10:31you know, I really like it because of A,
- 10:32B, and C," and they're positive about
- 10:35it, that's different than they're like,
- 10:36"Well, I you know, I could maybe see how
- 10:39it could help me."
- 10:40Well, that just told me they don't see
- 10:42the value in it, and I have a value
- 10:44problem here, and I need to find out
- 10:45what they don't like, okay?
- 10:48So, now I know it's either money has to
- 10:50do with something with money, or time,
- 10:52fear, something in there, okay? Fear, I
- 10:54always go back into fear of losing the
- 10:56money, fear that it's not going to take
- 10:58time, fear that it's not going to work.
- 11:00So, fear comes back to one of these
- 11:01three. So, all I'm going to do here is I
- 11:04just need to find out what the real
- 11:06concern is. Are you following me? So, I
- 11:08might say something like this. Now,
- 11:10depending on my relationship, okay? So,
- 11:12if I've opened them up, if I've got them
- 11:15into this pain of their current
- 11:18situation, and their past history, I've
- 11:21got them to feel pain of future pain
- 11:23that this could keep happening, and I
- 11:25have this relationship, I've got them
- 11:27emotional enough, I have trust to say
- 11:29something like this, "Hey, you know, I
- 11:31just need to think about it," or
- 11:32whatever. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, you
- 11:34know, just get back to you. Yeah, sure.
- 11:35Just get me back to Get me back Get back
- 11:37to me in a week, a month, a year, 10
- 11:38years. Just I guess get back to me in a
- 11:40decade, you know. And I can just laugh.
- 11:42And a lot of times they'll just look you
- 11:43and kind of laugh. And they're like,
- 11:44"Yeah, you're right. I should just do
- 11:45it." Okay. Now, if I don't have that
- 11:48relationship, if I couldn't open them
- 11:50up, if it was just a surface level
- 11:52conversation, you're going to get
- 11:54smacked in the face if you say something
- 11:56like that. But if I have I say, "Yeah,
- 11:58sure. Just get back to me in a week, a
- 11:59month, a year, 10 years. Just whatever."
- 12:01And I can just be playful there with
- 12:03that playful tone. And a lot of times
- 12:05they'll just laugh and the guard comes
- 12:06down. And then I can say, "Yeah, okay.
- 12:08Just You don't get back to me in a week,
- 12:10a month, a year later." Now, before I
- 12:11guess we talk about Before we get back
- 12:13with each other,
- 12:15I guess what was it that you were maybe
- 12:17wanting to go over in your mind so I
- 12:18know maybe what to send you or maybe
- 12:20what questions that you still have.
- 12:22So, I say, "Sure. Yeah, that's fine. Get
- 12:23back to me in a week, a month, a year,
- 12:2510 years, whenever you want to." Now,
- 12:26before we get back together, what were
- 12:28you I guess wanting to go over in your
- 12:29mind just so I know what questions
- 12:31you'll have when we talk again.
- 12:33Now, most of the time they'll give you
- 12:36something. Whatever they say here
- 12:38typically is the concern or it's going
- 12:40to lead you to the concern. It doesn't
- 12:42mean that it's just going to They're
- 12:43going to tell you the real concern right
- 12:45off the bat. They'll just say, "Oh, I
- 12:46just always No, it's it's not a problem,
- 12:47Jeremy. Everything looks good. I just I
- 12:49always like to do this." Oh, I totally
- 12:50understand. I guess when we do get back
- 12:52together though because maybe I can send
- 12:54you some more details, what are you
- 12:55wanting to go over in your mind just so
- 12:57I know what to send you.
- 12:59Now, I'm going to get some answer that
- 13:02leads me close to that objection. Okay,
- 13:04they could come back and say, "Well, you
- 13:06know, I just I need some time because
- 13:07it's a it's a big decision and I need to
- 13:09see if we have the money for it." Or,
- 13:11"Well, I just kind of need to sleep it
- 13:12over because, you know, like I haven't
- 13:14told my spouse yet and, you know, it it
- 13:17is a little bit of money."
- 13:18Well, now what do I know the objection
- 13:20is?
- 13:22It's really money. Okay? So, now I'm
- 13:24going to go help them overcome the money
- 13:26objection. When I help them overcome the
- 13:28money objection,
- 13:30they think it over think it it ends.
- 13:32They don't need to think it over if I
- 13:33help them overcome the money objection.
- 13:35All I'm doing right here before it So I
- 13:37can say before I go, let's say if I'm on
- 13:39Zoom. Now before before Yeah, sure, no
- 13:40problem. Get back to me in a week, a
- 13:42month, a year, whenever you want to.
- 13:43Before I jump off, what were you I guess
- 13:46wanting to go over in your mind just so
- 13:47I know what questions you'll have when
- 13:48we talk again?
- 13:50Well, you know, I I just I don't know
- 13:52how you know, I just don't know how this
- 13:55is going to be with installing this with
- 13:57our technicians. You know, we had some
- 13:58issues last year. Well, now I know that
- 14:01it maybe it's a value thing or maybe
- 14:02it's some time. Maybe they don't feel
- 14:03like they have time to do this to
- 14:05install it if I'm selling to a company.
- 14:07So whatever it is, all I'm doing here is
- 14:10I'm just getting them to tell me what
- 14:12the real concern is. I want to give you
- 14:14caution here.
- 14:16Be very careful about looking in the
- 14:17face and say, "Well, what do you want to
- 14:18think about?"
- 14:19It comes across aggressive. It comes
- 14:21across judgmental. And how do you feel
- 14:24when a salesperson you feel is judging
- 14:27you or when somebody you feel like
- 14:30you're talking to is comes across
- 14:32judgmental. You get defensive, right? So
- 14:34if you say, "Well, what do you want to
- 14:35think about? You said you like blah blah
- 14:36blah blah blah." All they're going to do
- 14:38is push back. Almost every single time.
- 14:40You'll still get one or two out of 10,
- 14:42but I'm assuming you don't want to play
- 14:44the numbers game, right? You want to get
- 14:46eight or nine out of 10, not one or two
- 14:48out of 10 that gave you that objection.
- 14:50So the biggest thing is find the
- 14:52concern. Yeah, sure, that's no problem.
- 14:53You get back to me in a week, a month, a
- 14:55year later, 10 years, whatever you want
- 14:56to. I guess before I jump off here, what
- 14:58were you wanting to go over in your mind
- 15:00just so I know what questions questions
- 15:02you have when we talk again? Well, it's
- 15:04just kind of the way we do things. Oh, I
- 15:05totally understand, but maybe just so I
- 15:07can send you something. Like what do you
- 15:08feel like you still need to go over in
- 15:09your mind just so I know if I can help
- 15:11you.
- 15:12Well, you know, I just feel like it's a
- 15:14little bit too much money. It's out of
- 15:15my budget. Money concern. Well, I'm just
- 15:18not sure I have the time to do this.
- 15:19Time concern. And then I go resolve that
- 15:22and this thing is gone. Okay, thinking
- 15:24it over objection, that is gone. Now, I
- 15:27will tell you depending on what you
- 15:29sell, there are some nuances that we
- 15:32would change depending on if I'm selling
- 15:33to a company or if I'm selling to the
- 15:35government, business to government, or
- 15:38if I'm selling to consumers. And I'm
- 15:40going to product services that does
- 15:42apply. We will tweak that based on your
- 15:44industry, okay? If you want more
- 15:46industry specific examples or how that
- 15:48would help you, how we would do that for
- 15:49your industry,
- 15:50just text me. There should be a number
- 15:51here, and we'll get back to you with
- 15:53some answers on that. All right, let's
- 15:54go into the next objection, we don't
- 15:57have the money. Maybe it's too
- 15:58expensive, we don't have the budget.
- 15:59Now, there's some nuances that I'm going
- 16:00to show a few nuances because it's too
- 16:02expensive is a much different objection
- 16:04than we don't have the money, which is a
- 16:06different objection than we can't afford
- 16:08it, which is a different objection to we
- 16:10don't have the budget maybe till next
- 16:12quarter if I'm selling to a company. So,
- 16:13there are some nuances. I want to show
- 16:15you this. Now, let's say the prospect,
- 16:17you try to close them, and they say,
- 16:18"You know, we really like this, but we
- 16:20just don't have the money. We just don't
- 16:21have the budget, okay?" Now, the first
- 16:23thing I want you to be very, very
- 16:25careful about is so many sales people do
- 16:28this that come into our training
- 16:29programs. When they first start with us,
- 16:31they'll agree with the prospect. The
- 16:33prospect would say, "We don't have the
- 16:34money." They're like, "Yeah, not an
- 16:35issue." Or "Yeah, no problem." No, it is
- 16:38a problem. Don't agree with the prospect
- 16:41like it's a good thing. All you're doing
- 16:43is reinforcing their frame. What does
- 16:45that mean? You're reinforcing their
- 16:47belief system that's not a problem. Is
- 16:50it a problem? Yeah, it's a freaking
- 16:51problem, right? Because if they can't
- 16:53find the funding or the funds for what
- 16:55you're offering, how do they get their
- 16:56problem solved?
- 16:57They don't. So, that's a problem for
- 16:59them. So, right when I hear that, I'm
- 17:01going to say,
- 17:03"Yeah, that could be trouble for you."
- 17:04Well, money aside, and then I'm going to
- 17:05go into it. So, I'm going to say, "Yeah,
- 17:07that could be trouble for you." Now, why
- 17:08would I not say that could be trouble?
- 17:11Because I'm not Who has the problem?
- 17:13The prospect or you?
- 17:15Well, the prospect has the problem.
- 17:17Who has a solution to solve it? You do.
- 17:19So, that's trouble for them. Now, I'm
- 17:20not going to come across mean. I'm not
- 17:22going to come across judgmental, but I'm
- 17:23going to say, "That could be a problem
- 17:25for you, for sure. That could be trouble
- 17:27for you, for sure. But, money aside, cuz
- 17:29we can talk about that money. Do you
- 17:31feel like this could be the answer for
- 17:32you?"
- 17:33So, right when they say this. So,
- 17:35remember, what am I trying to find out?
- 17:36Is it a money, is it a time, or is it a
- 17:38value thing? Okay? So, I want to
- 17:40eliminate value and time because I want
- 17:42it to be money cuz I want them to
- 17:43overcome that. Okay? I want to take it
- 17:45back to the money. Those are easier to
- 17:47overcome. All right, cuz if it's a value
- 17:49thing, it's like I got to go all the way
- 17:51back and like where did I miss the value
- 17:53here? Like, I messed up. This is really
- 17:54bad. That takes too long. I want to
- 17:56overcome money or time, all right? So,
- 17:57I'm going to say,
- 17:58"Yeah, that could That could be trouble
- 18:00for you, for sure, John. I mean, money
- 18:01aside, cuz we can talk about some
- 18:03funding options here in a second.
- 18:05Do you feel like this could be the
- 18:06answer for you?"
- 18:08So, see, I'm going immediately right
- 18:09back. I want to take them from where are
- 18:11they at right now? They're in price or
- 18:13cost-based thinking, right?
- 18:16Okay? They're saying, "I don't have the
- 18:17money." Raise my hands. I don't have the
- 18:19money, okay? Where do I want to take
- 18:21them though?
- 18:22Results-based thinking. Okay? See what
- 18:24I'm doing here? Results Can't spell
- 18:26here. Results-based thinking. You
- 18:28spelling bee Nazis, you'll let me know.
- 18:30I love you guys, okay? The more
- 18:31comments, the better from spelling bee
- 18:33Nazis. It makes it go more viral. I love
- 18:34you guys. Okay. So, that could be
- 18:36trouble for you. Now, money aside, cuz
- 18:37we can talk about different ways maybe
- 18:39we can find the funding for this.
- 18:41Do you feel like this could be the
- 18:43answer for you though?
- 18:45Now, if the prospect says, "Yeah, it
- 18:46is." Well, hold on. Why do you feel like
- 18:47it is? And then they start telling you
- 18:49why it's what they're looking for, but
- 18:50they just say they don't have the money.
- 18:52What am I getting rid of?
- 18:55>> [snorts]
- 18:55>> We know it's not a value thing. So, we
- 18:57now we know it's just the money or maybe
- 18:59they're just saying it's the money
- 19:01because they don't feel like they have
- 19:02the time. I'm going to find out. More
- 19:03than likely, it's going to be money, but
- 19:04I just the eliminated the value thing.
- 19:06See what I'm doing there, okay? Yeah,
- 19:08for sure, but we just, you know, I like
- 19:10it because of XYZ. We just don't have
- 19:11the money. Then, I'm going to say,
- 19:13"Well, hold on. Why Why do you feel like
- 19:15it would though?" I'm going to probably
- 19:17"Well, hold on. You know, money side,
- 19:18like I said, we'll talk about that. Why
- 19:19do you feel like it actually would work
- 19:21for you though?" And I want them to tell
- 19:23me why it's what they're looking for,
- 19:25but more importantly, who do they tell?
- 19:27Themselves. Now, as a rule of thumb, I
- 19:29want you to think about this.
- 19:30It's not like the money doesn't exist,
- 19:34right? It's just a priority of where
- 19:36they're currently spending that same
- 19:38money in their mind. Whatever they're
- 19:40currently spending that money on is more
- 19:41of a priority in their mind than what
- 19:43you're offering. So, all I have to do is
- 19:45how do I take where they're currently
- 19:47spending that money, which is more of a
- 19:49priority, and move that over to where
- 19:51your solution is the number one
- 19:52priority. Priority. Let me ask you this
- 19:54question. You'll get this. Let's say if
- 19:56I told you that I'm going to sell you my
- 20:00$400,000 DB12 Aston Martin. I'm going to
- 20:04sell it to you. It's a $400,000 vehicle.
- 20:06I just bought this. I'm going to sell it
- 20:08to you for $15,000.
- 20:10And let's say that you're completely
- 20:11broke. You have $100 in your bank
- 20:14account.
- 20:15But I'm going to sell you my Aston
- 20:16Martin for a $400,000. That $400,000
- 20:18car, I'm going to sell it to you for 15
- 20:20grand.
- 20:21What's the likelihood
- 20:23that you will find that 15,000 and
- 20:25you'll find it quick? Pretty much 100%.
- 20:27Why? Because your perception of the
- 20:30value is here, and it makes the cost,
- 20:32the money seem like pennies down here.
- 20:35So, that all that means if I'm getting a
- 20:37lot of money objections, I'm just not
- 20:38good enough yet to get the perception of
- 20:41the value here where they feel like they
- 20:43would be crazy not to invest this money
- 20:45with you. You getting this? Okay. Now,
- 20:49well, I like XYZ, ABC, whatever, blah
- 20:51blah blah blah blah. Then, I can say
- 20:53something like this. Now, like I said,
- 20:54depending on what you sell, we would
- 20:56tweak this, okay? And yeah, John, I can
- 20:58appreciate that money might be an issue
- 20:59from what you said. I guess, how do you
- 21:01feel like you can resolve that where you
- 21:03can find the funding so that you can,
- 21:05and then I'm going to repeat back what
- 21:06they said they wanted. Yeah, John, yeah,
- 21:09yeah, John, I can appreciate that money
- 21:10might be an issue from what you told me.
- 21:11How do you feel like you can resolve
- 21:13that so you can find the funding so you
- 21:15can get these higher qualified leads and
- 21:17really scale your business?
- 21:19Let's say if you sold for a marketing
- 21:20agency. Notice, how can you get the
- 21:22funding? I'm tying in the funding or the
- 21:24money to what? What they said they
- 21:26wanted. If they can get the money, they
- 21:28get what they want. If they can't get
- 21:30the money, they don't get what they
- 21:32want. See, I'm tying those both
- 21:34together.
- 21:35Follow me here. This is important for
- 21:37you, okay? Let's say they come back.
- 21:39Now, a lot of people when you do this,
- 21:40they might come up with this like, well,
- 21:41I could put it on a credit card or, you
- 21:43know, maybe I could borrow from the bank
- 21:45or, you know, I've got a 401k. Some
- 21:47people will come up with this. Usually
- 21:4825%, not a ton. But you'll get some
- 21:51people right here that will come up with
- 21:52the ways, okay?
- 21:54All I'm doing is setting this up. They
- 21:55might come back and say, well, I'm not
- 21:56sure, you know, maybe I can do this,
- 21:58maybe I can do that, okay? Or let's say
- 22:00they're like, let's say you're selling
- 22:02to a consumer like, well, I could ask my
- 22:03mom or I could ask my dad to loan me the
- 22:05money.
- 22:06Which we all know is probably unlikely.
- 22:08But let's say it this, well,
- 22:10I mean, that might work, but let's say
- 22:11they don't want to give you the funds.
- 22:13Like, what other avenues do you have to
- 22:15find the funds so you can't scale the
- 22:17business? Or what other avenues do you
- 22:18have to find the funds to make sure that
- 22:20Cindy and the kids are protected when
- 22:22you pass away if you're selling life
- 22:23insurance or whatever it is. Like I
- 22:25said, I'm going to tweak this based off
- 22:27your industry, okay? So, what other
- 22:29avenues do you have to find the funds so
- 22:30you can get, let's say, here's life
- 22:32insurance, okay? I gave you a few
- 22:33examples here. So, okay, so what other
- 22:35avenues do you have to find the funds so
- 22:37you can get, you know, Cindy and the
- 22:39kids financially protected when you pass
- 22:40away so the house gets paid off and they
- 22:42don't have to get another house or
- 22:43whatever it is. I'm just going to plug
- 22:45in whatever they said they wanted. So,
- 22:48what I guess what other avenues do you
- 22:49have to find the funds to make sure that
- 22:52when you pass away, Cindy and the kids,
- 22:54the house is paid off and she doesn't
- 22:57have to like, you know, move in with
- 22:58your in-laws and like you had said, pull
- 23:00the kids out of their school
- 23:02if that was his or her concern. I'm just
- 23:04plugging it in to the question. You see
- 23:08I'm tying in the end result of what they
- 23:10want or the end result of what they
- 23:12don't want, which is sending the kids to
- 23:14have to sell the house, move in with the
- 23:17in-laws, and pull the kids out of
- 23:18school. I can do either or. Let's say if
- 23:20I'm selling cybersecurity to a small
- 23:22business. What other avenues do you guys
- 23:23have to find the funding, you know,
- 23:26let's say I'm a selling to a small
- 23:27credit union here actually this example,
- 23:29to protect like your enrollment with
- 23:30these new customers from these high
- 23:32fraud losses. Okay, that's a big thing
- 23:35if I'm selling to a credit union I'm
- 23:36selling cybersecurity, all right? Or
- 23:38let's say if I'm selling to a marketing
- 23:39agency. So what other avenues do you
- 23:41have to find the funding to start
- 23:42getting these higher quality leads and
- 23:44we scale the business to $10 million a
- 23:46month if that's what they said they
- 23:47wanted, okay? Fitness, let's say if I
- 23:50sold fitness to consumers and I find out
- 23:53they want to lose 108 lb. So I guess
- 23:56what other avenues do you have to find
- 23:57the funds to lose 108 lb so like you had
- 24:00said, you can walk your daughter down
- 24:02the aisle one day when she gets married.
- 24:04Let's say if it's a gentleman, he said
- 24:06that he's concerned that a lot of his
- 24:08family passed away in their 50s from
- 24:10heart attacks because they're overweight
- 24:12and he had that same concern. I'm just
- 24:14plugging in that negative consequence at
- 24:16the end. Are you getting this? Okay?
- 24:19Let's say if I'm a real estate agent,
- 24:21third biggest industry in the world
- 24:22we're training, okay? So what other
- 24:23avenues do you have to find the funding
- 24:25for this down payment so you can get
- 24:27your family into this safer neighborhood
- 24:29if they said they wanted to get into a
- 24:31safer gated community. Whatever, I'm
- 24:33just plugging that in, okay? Now
- 24:35typically if I'm selling something that
- 24:37helps a company or a consumer make more
- 24:40money or save more money or it's some
- 24:43type of investment, could even be home
- 24:45improvement. They're putting in better
- 24:46cabinets. I'm going to say funding cuz
- 24:49that sounds like an investment. Be
- 24:51careful about using the words
- 24:52investment. It's overused. Every
- 24:55salesperson says it sounds kind of
- 24:57cheesy. Funding implies that's a good
- 25:00thing. It's like investment. Now, if
- 25:01it's like life insurance or if it's
- 25:03small stuff that doesn't do any of that,
- 25:05I'm going to use the word funds. I'm
- 25:07going to say money, I'm going to say
- 25:07funds, funds, funding, something like
- 25:09that. Let's say if it's home improvement
- 25:11here, same thing. So, what other avenues
- 25:13do you have to find the funds to get in
- 25:14XYZ windows so you're not forced to keep
- 25:16overpaying these utility bills from all
- 25:18the cold draft coming in? See, I'm just
- 25:20plugging in the negative consequence.
- 25:22Notice I used the word forced there.
- 25:24We'll talk about that later, okay? Now,
- 25:27if they still can't come up with other
- 25:29avenues, cuz a lot of times people will
- 25:31come, you know, let's say another 25%.
- 25:33Well, I could look at doing this. Maybe
- 25:35I could put it on a credit card. You
- 25:37know, maybe we could, you know, maybe do
- 25:39you have a payment plan? There's
- 25:40different things that they'll say there.
- 25:41We'll talk about payment plans in a
- 25:42second. And once again, it depends on
- 25:45your industry on how we're going to do
- 25:47that. There are some nuances that you
- 25:48need to understand. Like if you're in
- 25:50the high-ticket space, I don't want to
- 25:53necessarily do payment plans. I want to
- 25:55get more of the cash collection up
- 25:57front, so I got to show you how to do
- 25:58that. Compared to if it's, you know,
- 26:01maybe I'm selling some type of software
- 26:02and there's a monthly, you know,
- 26:04retainer. It's just a little bit
- 26:05different depending on what you sell,
- 26:07okay? Now, if they still can't find the
- 26:09funding, I can give them some just some
- 26:11suggestions. Now, this is called I want
- 26:13you to write this down. This is pretty
- 26:14cool. This is something that I learned
- 26:17in
- 26:19university. I went to school to become a
- 26:22psychologist. I specialized in the
- 26:24neuropsychology. Dave had the brain.
- 26:26Works with your nervous system. Kind of
- 26:27important if you want to learn sales to
- 26:29understand this. It's called the herd
- 26:30theory. So, basically, if
- 26:33in social standings, in status
- 26:35standings, basically, if somebody sees a
- 26:38lot of people doing one thing or going a
- 26:40certain way, a lot of them just follow
- 26:42cuz they feel like, oh, well, if
- 26:43everybody else is doing I should do it.
- 26:44It's like the herd. It's like the cows
- 26:46are all going to the pond, so these
- 26:47other cows are here, they see that and
- 26:48they just start walking over the pond.
- 26:50They don't even know why. They're just
- 26:51following the herd. You with me? Okay,
- 26:53so what I can do is I can show you the
- 26:55like the the avenues that our other
- 26:58clients use to find the funding if they
- 27:00didn't have the funding themselves cuz
- 27:01that's kind of normal. And you'll have
- 27:03to see if you have some of those same
- 27:04avenues if you're wanting to and then
- 27:07you repeat back what they said they
- 27:08wanted. If you're wanting to, you know,
- 27:10be able to put in the new cabinets. So
- 27:12like you had said, you know, you feel
- 27:14more confident when your girlfriends
- 27:15come over for happy hour on Thursday
- 27:16nights. If literally that's what she
- 27:18said, "I don't like when my girlfriends
- 27:20come over cuz my cabinets are 50 years
- 27:21old and I just feel, you know, like, you
- 27:23know, Julie's cabinets are better." And
- 27:25I get her in that emotional state, I'm
- 27:27just plugging that in. It literally does
- 27:29not matter. You I can show you this for
- 27:30every industry, okay?
- 27:31Now, then I'll go through what those
- 27:34avenues are. Now, for each industry,
- 27:36you're going to have different ways,
- 27:37okay? I might say, "Okay, you'll have
- 27:40some they'll use their bank, their
- 27:41lending institution that will loan them
- 27:43the capital." Now, obviously I'm not
- 27:45going to say that if you sold life
- 27:46insurance. It wouldn't make any sense.
- 27:48You'll have a lot that you, you know, we
- 27:49even use third-party lenders who loan
- 27:51the funding to you. Some get zero, even
- 27:530% interest for 12, 24, 36 months and
- 27:57they just pay it down, you know, that's
- 27:58pretty normal. Now, depending on if it's
- 28:00like an ROI type of thing,
- 28:02I might say they'll start to pay it down
- 28:04so as they start making more of an ROI
- 28:06as their business scales because of the
- 28:08the better leads, they take the extra,
- 28:11you know, profit margin they're making
- 28:12and they pay that down quicker so they
- 28:14avoid the interest. I might say
- 28:15something like that depending on if
- 28:17that's compliant with what you sell. It
- 28:19just depends on your industry, okay? You
- 28:21have others that will put it on credit
- 28:22cards, that's pretty normal. Notice I'm
- 28:24saying that's pretty normal. Like that's
- 28:26what everybody does. You're implying
- 28:27that this is a normal thing, which it
- 28:28probably is, okay? You have others that
- 28:30put it on credit cards and as they're
- 28:32making more profits from their business,
- 28:34you know, they'll pay that down to avoid
- 28:35the interest. Once again, depends on
- 28:38what you sell. If you sold like a
- 28:40fitness training program or weight loss,
- 28:42you can't really say they pay it down
- 28:44when they make more money, it doesn't
- 28:45make any sense. You have others that put
- 28:46it on credit cards and they'll pay that
- 28:48down, you know, as quickly as possible,
- 28:50but they're more concerned about losing
- 28:52that 108 pounds, so they're around
- 28:54another 30 years compared to people who
- 28:56just, you know, that weight just crushes
- 28:58them and they eventually have a heart
- 28:59attack. So, a lot of people use credit
- 29:00cards. You just got to reframe it
- 29:02differently, okay? You have others that
- 29:03we use like a home equity line of
- 29:05credit. You have others that we use like
- 29:06a 401k or some type of investment
- 29:08account. You even have others that we
- 29:10use like their crypto or their Bitcoin.
- 29:12What are those avenues do you have? Now,
- 29:13notice I literally just said like 12
- 29:16different avenues, okay? Whatever it
- 29:18was, okay? I said crypto, Bitcoin, 401k,
- 29:21investment accounts, you know, I talked
- 29:23about home equity line of credit, credit
- 29:25cards, third-party lenders, banking
- 29:27lending institution, credit unions. So,
- 29:30I'm I'm giving them like many different
- 29:31options. And then at the end, I'm going
- 29:33to say I'm not going to say, "Do you
- 29:34have any of those avenues?" I'm going to
- 29:36say, "What of those avenues do you
- 29:37have?"
- 29:38Now, a lot of people at this point, you
- 29:40know, they will come up with other
- 29:42avenues. They'll be like, "Well, maybe I
- 29:44could do this." Or maybe they have a
- 29:45concern about it, but then I'm going to
- 29:46help them overcome Oh, you have
- 29:47third-party lenders? How does that work?
- 29:49Well, what's your credit score? Oh, it's
- 29:51a 650. Yeah. So, you know, they
- 29:53typically accept like a 625
- 29:56uh or above or like a a spouse or a
- 29:58co-signer that has 625 or above? Notice
- 30:00how I sprinkled in a spouse or a
- 30:03co-signer that has 625 and above or
- 30:05whatever the requirements are. So, I'm
- 30:07just prepping them that if they don't
- 30:09pass credit for the third-party lenders,
- 30:11that the spouse or a
- 30:13co-signer can do that as well. I'm
- 30:14already pre- I'm already seeding that in
- 30:16the mind as I'm saying that, okay? Now,
- 30:18maybe if it's like life insurance, going
- 30:20to be a little bit different. And
- 30:21typically like, you know, cuz a lot of
- 30:23people tell me like, you know how much
- 30:24you know, you always talk about how much
- 30:26money do we even spend when we go out to
- 30:27eat? Like for you example, like when you
- 30:29go out to like a nice fancy restaurant,
- 30:30how much do you guys typically spend?
- 30:31Yeah, a couple hundred bucks. So, what a
- 30:33lot of people do is like they just take
- 30:35that money where they go out to eat once
- 30:37a week, where they're spending 150
- 30:39bucks, you know, every time at the
- 30:41restaurant, and they just take, you
- 30:42know, two two weeks of that out because
- 30:45should we spend that cash on like some
- 30:46fancy dinner or possibly put those funds
- 30:50into protecting Cindy, you know, our
- 30:52families where they're financially
- 30:53protected so when we pass, they actually
- 30:55don't have to, you know, they they're
- 30:57financially protected and they don't
- 30:58have to, you know, get a second job like
- 31:00most people out there do who don't leave
- 31:02their their family money or whatever it
- 31:03is. I'm just going to repeat that back,
- 31:05okay? Now, it could be you could be in
- 31:07an industry where you can down sell into
- 31:09a payment plan. It really depends on
- 31:11what you sell. I know the high ticket
- 31:13industry does that a lot, but sometimes
- 31:15if I sold maybe
- 31:17you know, some high-end cybersecurity
- 31:20thing to Bank of America, you know, even
- 31:23though they might not say they might say
- 31:24they don't have the budget till next
- 31:26quarter, you'd be surprised. Fortune 100
- 31:28500 companies will say that all the
- 31:29time. Maybe there's a down sell payment
- 31:31you could do that into that as well. So,
- 31:33I might typically say if it's a
- 31:34consumer, I'd say, "Well, you know,
- 31:36expenses bills aside, like how much are
- 31:38you working with? How much are we
- 31:39working here today?" Just to see if I
- 31:40can help you. And let's say your thing
- 31:42is 12 grand. And they say, "Well,
- 31:44you know, maybe four." I said, "Well,
- 31:46could you do maybe six?" And I can just
- 31:47kind of negotiate. "Well, you know,
- 31:48maybe I could do 5500." Okay, 5500. So,
- 31:51what we could do is we can have you put
- 31:525500 down today. So, that's going to
- 31:54give you access to XYZ. And then next
- 31:57month we would just have you pay, you
- 31:59know, another, you know, 7400. Or, "Oh,
- 32:02I can't do that." Okay, would help you
- 32:03if we split that up maybe in three or
- 32:05four months. And maybe have a payment
- 32:06plan you can do there. The point is is
- 32:08don't go to payment plan before you try
- 32:11to overcome the money concern. I see so
- 32:13many reps, depending on the industry
- 32:15again, automatically go into some type
- 32:17of payment plan right when they get a
- 32:19money objection. You don't want to do
- 32:21that. You're losing so many deals that
- 32:23would have just paid you up front had
- 32:25you overcome the money objection. So,
- 32:28what I can do is when I do that payment
- 32:29plan, "How much are you working with?"
- 32:31Okay, 5500. So, 5500 is going to allow
- 32:33you to be able to get started where you
- 32:35you get XYZ result. And all I'm going to
- 32:37do with that is I'm going to repeat back
- 32:39the end result as well. It's important
- 32:41when you bring up the funds or funding
- 32:44they need to invest with what you offer
- 32:46that at the end of that you go into the
- 32:49end result. This is going to allow you
- 32:51to be able to, you know, scale your
- 32:53business to $25 million next year. This
- 32:56is going to allow you to be able to, you
- 32:59know, get the right uh employee benefits
- 33:01to make sure you don't lose like your
- 33:03executive team like you said you did 3
- 33:04years ago. Whatever it is, depending on
- 33:06what you sell, I'm going to repeat back
- 33:08the end result. Okay? You follow me?
- 33:11Okay. Now, money objection, there's a
- 33:13couple more nuances. I want to show you
- 33:14this. How many of you lose sales to it's
- 33:17too expensive?
- 33:19That's a little bit different than we
- 33:21don't have the money for this. Do you
- 33:23see the difference? Typically, if
- 33:24somebody says it's too expensive, it's
- 33:26like they're just throwing their hands
- 33:28up saying, "I give up." It's just too
- 33:29expensive. I don't have the money. Okay?
- 33:32So, I don't want them to give up. I want
- 33:33to be able to help them. So, let me show
- 33:34you how to do this. This is called
- 33:37we call this a comparative frame. NEPQ,
- 33:39if you're not a client yet, this stands
- 33:40for NEPQ, neuro emotional persuasion
- 33:43question. Now,
- 33:44depending on what I sell,
- 33:47I could say this.
- 33:49Okay?
- 33:50Let's say if I'm selling to a business
- 33:52owner and I sell business consulting
- 33:54that helps him, you know, put in like uh
- 33:57you know, systems to really scale the
- 33:59company. And let's say they want to
- 34:02scale to $50 million a year,
- 34:04but right now they're at 30 or 35. So,
- 34:07if they're like, "Ah, man, I it's just
- 34:09that's just too expensive." So, I'm
- 34:11going to say, "Well, is it too expensive
- 34:13compared to your goal to getting to $50
- 34:15million a year?"
- 34:16See how I'm starting to reframe there?
- 34:18Okay, I don't even need to clarify that
- 34:20yet. I could say, "And how do you mean
- 34:21by it's too expensive?" I could say
- 34:23that. It depends on kind of the context
- 34:26of where they say that at. Depends on
- 34:28the relationship I have with them, if
- 34:30I've gotten their guard down compared if
- 34:32their guards is up. But if I got their
- 34:33guard down, say was it too expensive
- 34:35compared to your goal of and I'm going
- 34:37to repeat back the end result. Okay? Two
- 34:39Let's say if you sold HVAC. I mean, I
- 34:40got to use this I mean, is it too
- 34:42expensive compared to you getting the
- 34:44air circulating upstairs so you can
- 34:45sleep at night and not be so tired when
- 34:48you go to work every morning? If that's
- 34:49why they said they can't sleep at night,
- 34:52the air is not circulating, it's hot in
- 34:54the summer,
- 34:55Okay, I'm going to repeat that I mean,
- 34:56is it too expensive compared to you
- 34:58being able to get a good night's rest so
- 35:00like you would said you feel better at
- 35:02work and you get that promotion? I'm
- 35:03just repeating back what they said they
- 35:05wanted or the end result, okay? Uh it
- 35:07could be another reason. Let's say
- 35:09you're selling some type of dating
- 35:11course. Like you're in the high ticket
- 35:12industry. It's a big industry we train
- 35:13as well. I mean, is it too expensive
- 35:15compared to you meeting the woman of
- 35:17your dreams?
- 35:18If that's why they said they wanted to
- 35:19have more
- 35:20confidence in dating women. I mean, is
- 35:22it too expensive compared to you gaining
- 35:24that confidence to be able to approach
- 35:25any woman you want to talk to?
- 35:28So I'm going to see that first. Now, a
- 35:29lot of times you you say this like,
- 35:30"Well, I know what you get, Jeremy, but"
- 35:33they'll go right there. "Well, I know
- 35:34what you mean, but" and then you go,
- 35:36"Well, just, you know, is it too
- 35:38expensive compared to that because I
- 35:40mean, it really just depends on, you
- 35:42know, which, you know, how you view
- 35:44which is costing you more because is it
- 35:46more expensive to get the funds together
- 35:49and you get XYZ result or is it more
- 35:51expensive for you, you know, not to be
- 35:54able to approach these women and you
- 35:56can't really start going on these dates?
- 35:57I mean, in reality, which is costing you
- 35:59more? See, I can take that frame, okay?
- 36:01Let's say if I sold employee benefits,
- 36:03for example, and I find out that they're
- 36:06having an issue with losing their top
- 36:08executives to other companies. And let's
- 36:10say there's some enrollment fee they
- 36:12have to pay. Just depends on what you
- 36:13sell. Well, it just really depends on,
- 36:15you know, how you view which is costing
- 36:17you more because in reality, is it more
- 36:19expensive for you to get these funds
- 36:21together to get these better benefits
- 36:24packages for your employees where you
- 36:26keep them from leaving or is it more
- 36:28expensive for you to lose another two or
- 36:30three VPs like you did last year and now
- 36:33the business doesn't scale. I mean, in
- 36:34reality, which is more expensive? See,
- 36:37I'm just reframing the thought process,
- 36:40okay? I'm helping them overcome their
- 36:42limiting belief, okay? Now, depends on
- 36:46what they do here. Now, a lot of times
- 36:47when you do that, frame they're like,
- 36:49"Yeah, you're right." Now, if you say if
- 36:51they say, "Yeah, you're right." It kind
- 36:53of means that like they know you're
- 36:54right, but it doesn't mean that they're
- 36:56going to do anything. So, I might say,
- 36:58"Well, it doesn't really matter what I
- 36:59feel. What do you feel is more
- 37:01expensive? Is it more expensive for you
- 37:03to get the funding together and get XYZ
- 37:05result or is it more expensive for you
- 37:07to do nothing at all?" I mean, which is
- 37:08costing you more?
- 37:10"Well, I know what you mean, but" and
- 37:12then I'm going to go back in the frame
- 37:13again. Or they could say, "Well, yeah, I
- 37:16I I get you where you're coming from."
- 37:17Then I might go into this. Now, I want
- 37:19to make sure you guys understand.
- 37:21I always talk about having arrows in
- 37:23your quiver. You guys know the Robin
- 37:25Hood movie, you know, he's got the the
- 37:26quiver back here or whatever that bag
- 37:27back there they call it a quiver. He's
- 37:29got like all these arrows in it. Can you
- 37:31imagine if Robin Hood only had like two
- 37:32arrows and he's fighting an army? He
- 37:34wouldn't do very well.
- 37:35And that's the problem with most sales
- 37:36people is they have like three little
- 37:38arrows back here and they use one frame
- 37:40and they shoot it, it doesn't land. They
- 37:41use another take another use another
- 37:43frame objection take doesn't land. They
- 37:45take another one, doesn't land and now
- 37:47they're just like give up cuz they don't
- 37:48just say next. You got to have like a
- 37:51hundred billion frames back here. You
- 37:53got to have like seventy-five thousand
- 37:55arrows back here so no matter what they
- 37:56do, you could keep going on for hours.
- 38:00Now, obviously you're not going to go on
- 38:01for hours, but the point is here it
- 38:03doesn't matter if these first two,
- 38:05three, four objection handling frames
- 38:07don't land, I need to have fifty other
- 38:10ways to help them overcome this
- 38:11objection. And the more you have of
- 38:14those, those more arrows you can pull
- 38:15out because of your knowledge, the more
- 38:18you will outsell everybody else. The
- 38:20sales people who are not in the top one
- 38:22percent or higher, they just don't have
- 38:24as much errors because they dabble in
- 38:26this. They never commit to mastery to
- 38:27learn all these skills. They feel like,
- 38:29"Oh, I can just watch YouTube University
- 38:32and I'm going to master everything." How
- 38:33many people do you know that master
- 38:35anything from watching YouTube videos?
- 38:38Unlikely. It's just a start. We don't
- 38:40want to dabble, we want to master it,
- 38:41okay? All right, so I might say, "Yeah,
- 38:43because I'm sure it's not your real
- 38:44intention just to hold on I'm going to
- 38:46repeat the money to hold on to that
- 38:4812,000 in your bank account, you know,
- 38:50for the next 10 years and just kind of
- 38:51hope and pray it stays there forever,
- 38:53especially with all that inflation. I'm
- 38:55sure your real intention is to never
- 38:57have to worry about money again in your
- 38:58life." Let's say if I'm selling
- 39:00something that has to do with them
- 39:02making money. Okay, let's say if I'm a
- 39:03financial advisor. I'm sure it's not
- 39:05your real intention just to kind of, you
- 39:06know, keep your money with that advisor
- 39:08you have and just kind of hope and pray
- 39:09it works out. I'm sure your real
- 39:11intention is to be able to retire on
- 39:13time and never have to worry about money
- 39:14again in your life. So, I'm just putting
- 39:16in that frame. That's called an
- 39:17intention frame. Now, depending on what
- 39:19I'm selling, I'm just repeating back the
- 39:22result they said they wanted. Let's say
- 39:24if you sold your recruiter for a
- 39:26staffing agency. A big insurance agency
- 39:27will say, "Yeah, because I'm sure it's
- 39:28not your real intention just to hold on
- 39:30to the 30,000, you know, in the company
- 39:32bank account for the next 10 years and
- 39:34just kind of hope and pray it stays
- 39:36there forever, especially with all that
- 39:37inflation. I'm sure your real intention
- 39:39is to be able to get the CRO in where
- 39:41you have to where you can scale and you
- 39:43never have to worry about money again in
- 39:44your life. So, what's going to put you
- 39:46in the best position?" Then I'm going to
- 39:48go into this frame. So, what's going to
- 39:49put you in the best position where you
- 39:52can get the So, what's going to put you
- 39:53in that best position to be able to have
- 39:56the right CRO in there where you can
- 39:58actually scale? What's going to put you
- 40:00in the best position for you be able to
- 40:02scale your business? Okay, if I'm
- 40:04recruiting, let's say, a CRO for them or
- 40:07they're looking for a CRO and I'm going
- 40:09to find the best CRO for them. So, I
- 40:10could literally put anything in there.
- 40:11Let's say if I sold fitness, same thing
- 40:13here. Cuz I'm sure it's not your real
- 40:14intention, you know, to keep the 15,000
- 40:17in your bank account, you know, for the
- 40:19rest of your life and just kind of hope
- 40:20and pray it stays there, especially
- 40:21without inflation, right? I'm sure it's
- 40:23your real intention to be able to lose
- 40:25that weight. So, like you had said,
- 40:26you're able to walk your two daughters
- 40:28down the aisle. So, what's going to put
- 40:30you in the best position where you're
- 40:32still here
- 40:33in 10 or 15 years when they get married
- 40:36and you're playing with your grandkids
- 40:38and having that life?
- 40:39Okay, see how I'm doing that in that
- 40:40concerned tone? Now, depending on the
- 40:42industry, is how I'm going to tweak
- 40:44that. Let's say if it's let's say health
- 40:46insurance. I mean, I could literally
- 40:48show you this for every industry. Yeah,
- 40:49because I'm sure it's not your real
- 40:50intention just to keep the, you know,
- 40:52the extra $700
- 40:54a month for that policy in your bank
- 40:56account for the rest of your life and
- 40:57just kind of hope and pray it stays
- 40:59there forever, especially without
- 41:00inflation. I'm sure your real intention
- 41:02is when you get, you know, some type of
- 41:04like major disease like cancer, heart
- 41:06attack, a stroke, is to make sure that
- 41:07your family's financially protected
- 41:09where you don't have to spend hundreds
- 41:10of thousands of dollars on medical care.
- 41:13So, what's going to put you in the best
- 41:14position when you have something come up
- 41:17like a major incident where you're
- 41:18financially protected and you're not
- 41:20like a lot of people out there that end
- 41:22up paying all that money and go bankrupt
- 41:23or whatever it is if they have that
- 41:25concern they would go bankrupt from some
- 41:27big medical expense. I'm just going to
- 41:28pull out whatever they said in that
- 41:30conversation. Are you with me on how I'm
- 41:32doing that? That's how to help them
- 41:34overcome the it's too expensive
- 41:36objection. Now, I will tell you
- 41:38if that doesn't land, there's about 75
- 41:41other frames I'm going to go through to
- 41:44help them overcome that. That doesn't
- 41:45mean that those three frames are going
- 41:46to work every single time, but it is
- 41:49going to help you. You got to learn how
- 41:51to actually if those don't land, you got
- 41:53to learn how to do what's next. And if
- 41:55you want help with that, especially if
- 41:56your industry, there's going to be a
- 41:58number down here, just text us. Uh
- 42:00myself and our sales trainers, we lock
- 42:02ourselves in this room here about three
- 42:04or four times a week and all we do is
- 42:05just respond to your text messages. So,
- 42:07just text us and we'll get back to you
- 42:08on that. Now, I want to make sure for
- 42:10understand it's much better to prevent
- 42:13these objections from happening in their
- 42:14mind. This training is not about that.
- 42:16I'm just showing you techniques to
- 42:17overcome the objection. I will tell you
- 42:19if you want to master objection
- 42:21prevention because if you want to be in
- 42:22the top 1% of sales people in your
- 42:24industry, any industry,
- 42:26it's not about objection handling, it's
- 42:27about objection prevention. See,
- 42:29as a rep myself, I if if you're not
- 42:31aware of what they we posted my W-2s and
- 42:341099s in some of our ads here and there,
- 42:36but in my 17-year sales career when I
- 42:38was a W-2 and a 1099 sales person just
- 42:41like you, like before I started this
- 42:43company, when I was just an employee, I
- 42:45made a bit under it was a bit under 33
- 42:47million in straight commissions in that
- 42:4917 years, okay?
- 42:51Now, I wasn't focused on
- 42:53overcoming objections. I was more
- 42:54focused on how do I prevent objections
- 42:56from happening in the mind. So, when I
- 42:58get objections like, "Now's not a good
- 43:00time." or "I don't have enough time to
- 43:03do this." Like, I'm already going to
- 43:04prevent that from happening. I rarely
- 43:06ever got this objection. Hardly ever.
- 43:08When I sold to consumers, hardly ever
- 43:10got the spouse objection because I
- 43:12pre-handled it up front. Hardly ever got
- 43:15the I want to think it objection because
- 43:17I helped prevent it by framing it out in
- 43:19the first 10 minutes of the
- 43:20conversation. So, if you want to get
- 43:22great at sales, you're going to have to
- 43:23learn how to prevent objections, okay?
- 43:26These are just band-aid approaches. Now,
- 43:28it doesn't mean that if I get really
- 43:30really good at preventing objections,
- 43:31I'm never going to get an objection. But
- 43:33quite literally, I can tell you like our
- 43:34clients in your industry, they're
- 43:35telling us they're preventing 50 to 70%
- 43:38of the objections they used to get.
- 43:39Right now, if you just prevented 50% of
- 43:42the objections you lose just from it out
- 43:43by default, you're going to sell more.
- 43:45Does that make sense? You're going to
- 43:45have easier sales, okay? All right, so
- 43:47let's say they say, "Now's not a good
- 43:49time." or "I don't have enough time."
- 43:51Those are two different things. So, if
- 43:54they say, "Now's not a good time."
- 43:56depending on the relationship I have
- 44:00with them. What do I mean?
- 44:01Did I get the prospect's guard down? Did
- 44:04I get them to emotionally open up? Did I
- 44:05get them to take their mask off? Every
- 44:07human being I always say, you know, like
- 44:09my mentor Tony Robbins tells us, every
- 44:12human being wears a mask on how they
- 44:14want people to perceive them. Do your
- 44:16prospects wear a mask? Yeah. Compared to
- 44:18who they really are? Yes. So, when they
- 44:19come, they talk to you at the door, when
- 44:21they talk to you on the phone, when they
- 44:22talk to you on Zoom or in person, it's
- 44:24like they have this mask on. You know,
- 44:26they want help, but they're like they're
- 44:27guarded. Oh, I don't need any help,
- 44:28okay? So, if I get them to take their
- 44:30mask off,
- 44:32I What I'm about to show you right here,
- 44:33I can do this every time, and they will
- 44:35trust me. If I don't have any trust,
- 44:37this is not going to work what I'm going
- 44:38to show you, okay? So, they say, "Yeah,
- 44:40now's just not a good time." At the end,
- 44:42you're trying to close and they say,
- 44:43"It's just not a good time, Jeremy."
- 44:45Yeah, and that's uh
- 44:47that's what we've been saying to
- 44:48ourselves the last 3 years.
- 44:51And where has that gotten us in our
- 44:53lives?
- 44:54Yeah, and that's what we've been telling
- 44:55ourselves for the last 3 years, right?
- 44:57And where has that gotten our business?
- 44:59Nowhere, right? So, the question is,
- 45:02when we know
- 45:03we need to do something, when we know
- 45:05that we need to do something to get a
- 45:07very different result, when's the best
- 45:09time to do it? Is it one day I'm going
- 45:11to do it? Someday I'm going to do it?
- 45:14Or is it today? Which one would it be?
- 45:16See, I'm asking that in a concerned
- 45:17tone. But, I have to have that
- 45:19relationship, had to have their guard
- 45:21down way before I got this concern.
- 45:23Otherwise, you'll get smacked in the
- 45:25face. If you had a surface level
- 45:26conversation and they wouldn't open up,
- 45:28you don't know how to do that, that
- 45:30won't work. Okay? So, you got to learn
- 45:32this. Like, a lot of people are like,
- 45:33"Oh, Jeremy, it didn't work." Well, I'm
- 45:35not on your calls. I didn't hear how the
- 45:36discovery conversation went cuz you had
- 45:39a shitty discovery call and you didn't
- 45:41open them up. Of course, they're going
- 45:42to smack you in the face when you say
- 45:43that. Or, if you come across with a
- 45:45judgmental tone here compared to a
- 45:47concerned tone like this.
- 45:49Yeah, and that's uh that's what we've
- 45:51been saying to ourselves the last 3
- 45:52years.
- 45:54And where has that gotten us in our
- 45:55lives?
- 45:56Nowhere, right?
- 45:58So, the question is, do you want to stay
- 46:00there,
- 46:01or do you want to be able to have XYZ
- 46:03result?
- 46:05Concern tone. Okay, see how I'm doing
- 46:07that? But, I have to have context to do
- 46:09that. If the context is not there, I'm
- 46:11not going to do that. Now, it depends
- 46:14on, once again,
- 46:16what I sell will depend on how I tweak
- 46:18this type of an objection. Because they
- 46:20say, "Cuz when's the best time to
- 46:21implement something that we know is
- 46:23going to get us XYZ result?" Today,
- 46:25right? Because is it easier to change
- 46:27our situation by pushing things down the
- 46:29road, or is it harder to change? Now, a
- 46:31lot of times they'll be like, "Well,
- 46:33what do you mean?" Well, is it easier
- 46:34and you just you just loop back around.
- 46:36"Well, is Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- 46:37Is it easier to change our situation by
- 46:39pushing things down the road, or is it
- 46:41harder to change?" Well, I know what you
- 46:43mean. Well, is it easier or harder? You
- 46:46can be right in there. Well, it's
- 46:47harder. Well, why is it harder? Yeah,
- 46:49because the more we push a decision down
- 46:50the road, the brain freezes up and we
- 46:53get become paralyzed and nothing ever
- 46:55happens. And you don't seem like the
- 46:56type of person who doesn't want anything
- 46:58to happen. Would I be right? So, what do
- 47:00you really want to happen? Okay, and
- 47:01then I can reframe that depending on the
- 47:03context, okay? So, then I can come back
- 47:05here. So, what's going to put you in the
- 47:06best position so you can get 30 booked
- 47:09jobs a month and you can scale your
- 47:11business? Let's say if I'm a lead agency
- 47:14and I'm helping some type of home
- 47:16service companies like a garage door
- 47:19company or electrician or something get
- 47:20more jobs, so what's going to put us in
- 47:22the best position so we can get 30
- 47:24booked jobs in a month so we can scale
- 47:26the business, okay? Depending on the
- 47:27context. Now, like I said, this
- 47:30objection, depending on what I sell, is
- 47:34going to be tweaked. And if you want
- 47:36help with your objection like, "I don't
- 47:37know how that works for my industry,
- 47:38Jeremy."
- 47:39Uh just there's going to be a number
- 47:40down here, text me and myself and our
- 47:43trainers, like I said, we lock ourselves
- 47:45in this room over here about three times
- 47:47a week and for several hours we just
- 47:48respond to your texts. So, you can text
- 47:50us and we can help you tie it into your
- 47:52industry. Now, let's say if they say
- 47:54this, "I don't have enough time." That's
- 47:56a completely different objection. Okay?
- 47:58Because the question is
- 48:00you don't know what they mean by that.
- 48:01So, I'm simply going to clarify first.
- 48:02Remember the three rules? Clarify,
- 48:05deframe,
- 48:07and reframe. Okay?
- 48:10So, first I'm going to clarify. Oh,
- 48:11well, how much time do you think you
- 48:12would need?
- 48:14So, I see so many people try to overcome
- 48:15this I don't have enough time. They're
- 48:17like, "Well, when's going to be the best
- 48:18time?" And they try to overcome this
- 48:20objection when the person just thinks
- 48:22it's going to take a lot of time that
- 48:24maybe it doesn't really take. So, it's
- 48:26sometimes like, "Oh, well,
- 48:28how much time do you think you're going
- 48:29to need?"
- 48:30What if they come back and say, "Well, I
- 48:31I I thought it'd be it'd take me at
- 48:33least 10 or 15 hours a week to be able
- 48:35to implement this." I mean,
- 48:36"I guess if you could, but I mean, we
- 48:38don't have clients that would even have
- 48:3910 or 15 hours a week because, you know,
- 48:42they're at their job working 50, 60, 80
- 48:44hours a week. They wouldn't even have
- 48:45time. So, they start doing this like
- 48:46two, three, maybe four hours a week so
- 48:49they could get XYZ result." I mean,
- 48:51could you do that so you can lose the 50
- 48:53lbs so you're able to, you know, help,
- 48:55you know, be around for your grandkids?
- 48:56Would you be able to put in two or three
- 48:57hours a week of this nutrition plan and
- 49:00being able to to get that food if you
- 49:02knew it was going to help you like be
- 49:03around for another 20 years of your
- 49:04life?
- 49:05Well, sure, I could do that. So,
- 49:07sometimes it's like it's not even like
- 49:08this is literally not even a concern.
- 49:10They just think it's going to take way
- 49:11longer than what it takes. Now, I will
- 49:13tell you this as well. Let's say it
- 49:15really does take 8 to 10 hours a week
- 49:18for the thing to be the best possible
- 49:20version.
- 49:21You guys ever heard that uh that
- 49:24scripture? I think it's in the New
- 49:25Testament. I think the Apostle Paul says
- 49:26you got to give them the milk before the
- 49:28meat. You know what I'm talking about?
- 49:30See, a lot of you guys you're just like,
- 49:31"I'm just going to give them the meat to
- 49:33see if they're a good client." Well, you
- 49:34can do that. You're just going to lose a
- 49:35lot of people. And if they never start,
- 49:38you never really helped them solve their
- 49:39problems. I'm going to give them the
- 49:40milk first because a lot of times when
- 49:42they get into the thing, they start to
- 49:45like the thing and they're like, "I need
- 49:47to put more time into the thing." But
- 49:49they don't know that until they get on
- 49:50the inside. And right now they're
- 49:51looking from the outside. So, I'm going
- 49:53to give them the milk before the meat.
- 49:55So, even if it does take 8 hours, I'm
- 49:57going to say, you know, a lot of our
- 49:58clients start with 2, 3, 4 hours a week,
- 50:00not really 8 or 10, but just depends on
- 50:02your situation. Could you do at least 2
- 50:03or 3 or 4 hours a week? Yeah, I could do
- 50:05that. Well, why could you do that? Well,
- 50:06because of blah blah blah. Then they get
- 50:08in the thing, they realize, you know,
- 50:09this might take a little bit longer, but
- 50:10I like it. I'm going to put in the time
- 50:12because now they're more sold on it
- 50:13because now it's actually real because
- 50:15they're inside of it. Are you following
- 50:17me here? Now, like I said, depending on
- 50:20my industry, this will be tweaked. And
- 50:23if you want to learn how to do overcome
- 50:24this objection for industry
- 50:25specifically, how we tweak it, just text
- 50:27me at that number below. Okay, let's
- 50:29move on here. We got another objection
- 50:31here to cover. Hey, let's come to this
- 50:33objection. How do I know this will work
- 50:35for me? Okay? So, this is more of the
- 50:37uncertainty, fear, lack of trust. You
- 50:39might get what's your guarantee, which
- 50:42is going to be depending on the
- 50:43industry, is going to be
- 50:45said different ways.
- 50:46Um, you know, like if somebody would ask
- 50:48us, hey, well, what's your guarantee
- 50:49that your sales training's going to
- 50:51work? Now,
- 50:52just out of role play here, how can I
- 50:54guarantee that it's going to work for
- 50:55anybody? Because
- 50:57do I have power to make you go through
- 50:59our training programs?
- 51:01Can I force you to go through them every
- 51:02day? Can I force you to get on the
- 51:04training calls? Can I force you to do
- 51:06what we say to do, to word it exactly
- 51:09like we say? No, I can't force you to do
- 51:10that. I have no control over that. So,
- 51:12if somebody said that to us, we'd be
- 51:13like, well,
- 51:15you know, hey, what's your guarantee?
- 51:16Well, my guarantee is that we're going
- 51:18to give you the skills necessary for you
- 51:20to get the skills to, like you had said,
- 51:22to get to 30K a month or whatever they
- 51:23said they want. Now, because the
- 51:25question is, what can I guarantee you?
- 51:26Because can I guarantee
- 51:29that you're going to get into the
- 51:30training portal and actually follow the
- 51:32training? Can I guarantee that you're
- 51:33going to get on the training calls? Can
- 51:35I guarantee that you're going to
- 51:37actually follow what I tell you to do
- 51:38and do it word for word and really role
- 51:40play the tonality of their trainings?
- 51:41Can I guarantee that you're going to do
- 51:42that? No, but like, well, no.
- 51:44Right, I can't guarantee that, but what
- 51:46I can guarantee you is is I'm going to
- 51:49give you the skills necessary for you to
- 51:51be able to do XYZ result. But what can
- 51:54you guarantee me? And I just flipped
- 51:56that frame because that is the reality.
- 51:57That is the truth. I can guarantee you
- 51:59that we're going to give you the skills
- 52:00to hit what you want to hit. We've
- 52:02already done this with Look, we have
- 52:04been under I think we have almost a
- 52:05million clients right now.
- 52:07Uh you know, depending on companies that
- 52:09are going through with this and
- 52:11individuals from every industry. It's
- 52:13like we already have like 50 some
- 52:14thousand freaking testimonials, which
- 52:16sales people never post testimonials cuz
- 52:18they don't want their people in their
- 52:19company to know how good they are. They
- 52:20don't want They know where they're
- 52:21getting the skills from. So it's like
- 52:22almost pulling hair out of them to even
- 52:25get them to post. And we already have 50
- 52:26some thousand testimonials in the first
- 52:285 years. That's crazy, okay? More than
- 52:31any other sales training company from
- 52:32we've heard in North America. So that
- 52:35guarantee I can do that for them and I'm
- 52:37flipping that frame. Now, depending on
- 52:38what you sell, you might have a
- 52:40guarantee that is actually different. I
- 52:42just don't know. So we'll have to tweak
- 52:43it based on what you do. Okay, coming
- 52:45back here. How do I know this will work
- 52:46for me?
- 52:48Okay, depending on what I sell,
- 52:50let's say if I'm selling to an
- 52:51individual. Well,
- 52:53I mean, if it already works for people
- 52:55in your industry,
- 52:57what would prevent it from working for
- 52:58you?
- 52:59So the first thing I'm going to do is
- 53:00just reframe the question back on them.
- 53:02Now, if let's say if I'm selling some
- 53:04type of like say I sell SaaS. Well, how
- 53:06do how how you how can I how can I know
- 53:09if this is going to work for our
- 53:09company? Well,
- 53:11I mean, if it's already working for
- 53:12companies in your industry like Bell
- 53:14South, AT&T, and Verizon,
- 53:17what would prevent it from working for
- 53:18you guys? See, like I'm confused. It's a
- 53:21valid question. Well, I'm not really
- 53:22sure. Well, I mean, does it only work
- 53:24for let's say if I'm selling to
- 53:25consumers. Well, but does it only work
- 53:27for people that have blonde hair? Does
- 53:28it work for people who have red or black
- 53:30hair? Like what is it it does work? So a
- 53:32lot of times you'll be selling to
- 53:33consumers, this is a good comeback. So I
- 53:35can say, I mean, well, if it's already
- 53:36working for other people with what you
- 53:39do, what would prevent it from working
- 53:41for you? Is it just your hair? Like it
- 53:42only works for people that are blonde?
- 53:44It just doesn't work for redheads? Or it
- 53:46only works for people who have black
- 53:47hair? It just doesn't work for somebody
- 53:49that has purple hair? Like is it just
- 53:51the hair color? Like what would prevent
- 53:52it from working for you? And I'm going
- 53:53to be playful. And a lot of times
- 53:54they'll just laugh. And they'll be like,
- 53:56"Yeah, that was silly for me saying
- 53:57that." And they'll just buy. Okay?
- 53:58Depending on what you sell is how I'm
- 54:01going to actually change that. Like I
- 54:03said, we have to tweak this based on
- 54:05what you sell. Or I could say, "But on a
- 54:07serious note, I mean, what would cause
- 54:09you to feel since it's already working
- 54:11for companies in your industry, what
- 54:13would cause you to feel it might not
- 54:14work for you?" So I could go back,
- 54:16"Well, on a serious note though, since
- 54:18it's already working for companies in
- 54:20your industry,
- 54:21what would prevent it from working for
- 54:23you guys?" See, I'm like I come across
- 54:24like I'm confused. Okay? It's hard for
- 54:26them to come back and say, "Well, I
- 54:28don't really know." Usually that's just
- 54:29a fear objection, which we'll talk about
- 54:31in another training video. Now, let me
- 54:33give you another one. This is a big one.
- 54:35"We've tried something like this in the
- 54:37past and it didn't work out. I'm
- 54:38hesitant, Jeremy. I don't know if this
- 54:40will work for me. We've tried this in
- 54:42the past with somebody else. It didn't
- 54:43work." How many lose sales from that?
- 54:45Depending on your industry, depends on
- 54:47if you get this objection. Once again,
- 54:48this is another fear-based objection.
- 54:50Okay? First of all, I'm going to
- 54:52clarify, "Oh, what actually happened?"
- 54:54See, I want to take them back into their
- 54:55pain. It's like you're It's like you're
- 54:57Dr. Phil. Or you're like some type of
- 55:00therapist. And when your patient starts
- 55:02complaining about something, you need to
- 55:04listen to them. Let them just draw out
- 55:07their emotion cuz a lot of times they'll
- 55:08just splat their emotion. And they just
- 55:10feel better. And because you listened to
- 55:12them and you clarified and probed off
- 55:14that emotion, they start to trust you
- 55:15more. You with me on this? Okay? Just
- 55:17like maybe you do with your therapist.
- 55:18Same thing. "Oh, what actually
- 55:19happened?" Okay. And so when you came to
- 55:22them and and you told them what was
- 55:23going on, what did they actually say to
- 55:24you?" And I'm just going to probe and
- 55:25clarify. Then I'm going to come back
- 55:27after that and say, "You know,
- 55:28it's kind of like this. And it's
- 55:30interesting that you told me cuz a
- 55:32mentor of mine once told me that it's
- 55:34kind of like going eating at a
- 55:35restaurant. Right? you guys like to eat,
- 55:37right? So, it's like, you know, you go
- 55:38to a restaurant everybody said it's a
- 55:40good restaurant, they hyped it up, you
- 55:42go there and you're like, "Ah, yeah, the
- 55:44food's not really good." And on top of
- 55:46that, you go home and you're like, "Oh,
- 55:48man, my stomach really hurts." And you
- 55:49get you have food poisoning, you throw
- 55:50up the food. Now, does that mean you
- 55:53never go eat at any other restaurant the
- 55:55rest of your life?
- 55:57Or does that mean you don't go eat at
- 55:59that restaurant? Yeah, you don't go to
- 56:01eat that restaurant. So, you see the
- 56:03analogy I'm saying there. I'm getting
- 56:05them I'm using an analogy that makes
- 56:08sense where they're like, "Okay, that
- 56:10makes sense." Now, sometimes you can
- 56:12actually reframe it by their own
- 56:13industry. So, let's say you're a Oh, I
- 56:15don't know, like a marketing agency and
- 56:17you're selling better leads to like a
- 56:19plumber or something like that, home
- 56:21services or something, okay?
- 56:23Biggest hurdle to overcome for those
- 56:24marketing agencies. And they're like,
- 56:26"Wow, we've we've used marketing
- 56:27agencies in the past, you know, a
- 56:29plumber says, "We've used marketing
- 56:30agencies in the past and like we just
- 56:31get crappy leads." Now, if they say
- 56:34that, that's probably a concern you're
- 56:35going to deal with. Either they're
- 56:36saying that to you now, that's their
- 56:37objection on why they're not buying, or
- 56:39they say it up front and you need to
- 56:40help them overcome that frame right
- 56:42there so you don't get that objection at
- 56:43the end. Which that'll be in a different
- 56:45training video, I'll show you how to do
- 56:45that. Or just text me and I'll show you
- 56:47how to do that, okay? So, what I'm going
- 56:49to do is I can reframe it showing them
- 56:52about their industry. Well, it's kind of
- 56:53like, you know, let's say a client, you
- 56:56know, that you're talking to about you
- 56:58putting in you know, new plumbing, you
- 57:00know, all that stuff in their bathroom
- 57:01and they say, "Yeah, we just had a
- 57:02really bad experience with the last guy.
- 57:04Like he just did a crappy job and we
- 57:06could hardly ever get a hold of them and
- 57:08it took him like a whole week to install
- 57:09everything."
- 57:10Now, does that mean that that client of
- 57:14yours should like never use a plumber
- 57:18again? They should just try to figure
- 57:20all out the plumbing themselves? Or does
- 57:22that mean they just don't use that
- 57:24plumbing company again?
- 57:26And the plumber's going to be like,
- 57:27"Yeah, they don't use that company
- 57:28again." So, it's kind of like with us.
- 57:30Does that mean just because we had a
- 57:31negative experience with a marketing
- 57:33agency that we just give up and we say
- 57:36we're never going to be able to scale,
- 57:37we're never going to get leads again? Or
- 57:39does that mean that we just don't use
- 57:42that old marketing agency that screwed
- 57:43us? Because if that holds us back from
- 57:46hiring a new marketing agency, it's kind
- 57:49of like we let that company burn us
- 57:50again, right? So what's going to put you
- 57:52and then I go into that reframe. See
- 57:53what I'm doing there, okay? Or I could
- 57:55use this car analogy. I mean, I could
- 57:56show you a thousand different analogies
- 57:58here, okay? It's kind of like driving a
- 58:00car, right? And someone hits you and you
- 58:01get in a wreck. Does that mean you never
- 58:03drive a car again?
- 58:05Or does that mean that maybe now you're
- 58:07kind of better prepared and you get a
- 58:10better type of car and now you drive a
- 58:11Volvo because the Volvo is safer. Or
- 58:13does that mean you never drive a car
- 58:14again?
- 58:15So see, I'm doing an analogy here. Does
- 58:17that mean you you get in this wreck,
- 58:18does that mean you never drive a car
- 58:20again? Or does that mean that maybe
- 58:21you're better prepared and now you need
- 58:23a safer car? Well, I need a safer car.
- 58:25Well, why would you need a safer car
- 58:26rather than just never drive again?
- 58:27Yeah, so it's kind of the point here
- 58:28because and then I go into this frame.
- 58:30This is an identity frame here. I want
- 58:31you to write this down, okay? Because
- 58:33here's what I want you to to learn here
- 58:35out of all of what I just showed you
- 58:36right here.
- 58:38Objections are just stories
- 58:42okay,
- 58:43in the prospect's mind, okay? So they
- 58:46make up these stories
- 58:47and they attach meanings to these
- 58:50stories. Tony Robbins
- 58:52talks a lot about this. I love Tony for
- 58:53this. So we human beings, we make up
- 58:55story story making machines, as Tony
- 58:57would say. Then we attach meanings on
- 58:59what those stories mean, okay? So this
- 59:02prospect says, "Because this company in
- 59:05the past I used a long time ago screwed
- 59:08me over and didn't get a result, that
- 59:10means that you could do that to me." So
- 59:13I'm just going to shift that meaning. So
- 59:14I'm going to make that a good thing. So
- 59:16I'm going to say, "Yeah, because I mean,
- 59:18to me it sounds like you're the type of
- 59:20person who never gives up." So see, I'm
- 59:21going to change the meaning of that
- 59:24because they're talking to you, they're
- 59:25on a sales call with you. So that means
- 59:28they don't really give up, right? Even
- 59:29though they have this concern that you
- 59:31might not get them that result like that
- 59:32other company, they didn't give up on
- 59:34pursuing this. So, I'm going to reframe
- 59:37what they mean by that. Yeah, because to
- 59:39me it sounds like you're the type of
- 59:40person who never gives up because and
- 59:42I'm going to tell you this, like your
- 59:43spouse, she's lucky to have a provider
- 59:46like you that never gives up and knows
- 59:48that, you know, you got to make these
- 59:49hard decisions yourself for the family
- 59:51because I talked to a lot of people and
- 59:53you'd be surprised how many of them they
- 59:54let some crappy company completely hold
- 59:57them back from ever growing their
- 59:58business again in life. You know what I
- 59:59mean? I mean, for you, like never giving
- 1:00:01up, is that something that you were born
- 1:00:03with or something you had to learn?
- 1:00:05You see the identity flip there, okay?
- 1:00:07Now, if you want to learn master
- 1:00:08identity framing for your industry, text
- 1:00:11me that number and we will show you how
- 1:00:13to apply it to your industry, okay? So,
- 1:00:15all I'm going to do here, wow, it sounds
- 1:00:17like you're the type. Now, it's
- 1:00:18important you say type. Type is an
- 1:00:20identity. You're the type of person who
- 1:00:23never gives up. Then I'm going to go in
- 1:00:26this. If I'm talking to you, let's say
- 1:00:27if it's even a small business, all
- 1:00:28right? Okay, let's say your spouse. If
- 1:00:30it's a consumer, I'm going to say it's a
- 1:00:31spouse. If it's a company, I could say
- 1:00:34your boss is lucky to have an executive
- 1:00:36like you. I can just change the frame.
- 1:00:38Now, let's say if I'm talking to a
- 1:00:40woman.
- 1:00:41I'm not necessarily going to say
- 1:00:43provider. Now, she could be the provider
- 1:00:45for the family, but typically men, their
- 1:00:47ego, they're built to provide and
- 1:00:49protect. Whereas women, they're built to
- 1:00:53They can provide and protect, but also
- 1:00:54they're built for to love and nurture
- 1:00:56and care, which men suck at, okay? So,
- 1:00:58we each have our different qualities.
- 1:00:59Wow, and your spouse, he's lucky to have
- 1:01:02an independent woman like you.
- 1:01:04So, see, I'm going to use her ego. Men,
- 1:01:06if I say provider like you, he's not
- 1:01:08going to say, "No, I'm not a provider."
- 1:01:09And it's going to be very rare a woman's
- 1:01:11going to say, "No, I'm not an
- 1:01:12independent woman. My husband makes me
- 1:01:14do it. I can't do anything." She's not
- 1:01:15going to say that. Even if she's not,
- 1:01:16she's going to bind to that frame. Your
- 1:01:18spouse, he's lucky to have an
- 1:01:20independent woman like you that never
- 1:01:21gives up and knows that she's going to
- 1:01:23make some of these hard choices for her
- 1:01:24family herself.
- 1:01:26Now, what am I doing by saying and she
- 1:01:28knows that she has to make these hard
- 1:01:31decisions for her family herself. What
- 1:01:33am I trying to prevent? Spouse
- 1:01:34objection. See what I'm doing? I would
- 1:01:36have done this long before. I would have
- 1:01:37never got this other objection because I
- 1:01:39talked to a lot of people and you'd be
- 1:01:41surprised how many of them they let some
- 1:01:43crappy, let's say coach completely hold
- 1:01:46them back from ever having whatever,
- 1:01:48from ever being able to get the
- 1:01:50confidence to date the woman of their
- 1:01:51dreams in life or if you sold dating. Uh
- 1:01:53some coach, some crappy coach hold them
- 1:01:56back from ever having the relationship
- 1:01:58they want with their family. If it's a
- 1:01:59therapy coach or a relationship coach.
- 1:02:01See it can play hold them you know some
- 1:02:03crappy contractor, you know, hold them
- 1:02:05back from ever building the home of
- 1:02:07their dreams. Whatever it is, I can just
- 1:02:09apply that in there. And then at the
- 1:02:10end, I'm going to get them to buy in
- 1:02:12that frame. Never giving up. Is that
- 1:02:14something you're born with or something
- 1:02:16you had to learn? Oh, I've always been
- 1:02:17that way. See, I'm getting them to
- 1:02:19change their identity.
- 1:02:21Then I could come back here depending on
- 1:02:23once again what I sell that's going to
- 1:02:25be tweaked. I say, so what's going to
- 1:02:27put you in the best position for you to
- 1:02:30Let's say if I sold life insurance,
- 1:02:31protect sending the kids when you pass
- 1:02:33away. Whatever it is, okay? I'm going to
- 1:02:34finish that frame. All right? Let's go
- 1:02:36to this last objection.
- 1:02:37I think you're going to enjoy this. All
- 1:02:39right, let's go over the spouse
- 1:02:40objection. Like I said, if you're like,
- 1:02:43"Ah Jeremy, I don't know how to this
- 1:02:44last objection you went through, how do
- 1:02:45I tie it into my industry?" Just text
- 1:02:47me. Okay, there's always tweaks we're
- 1:02:48going to make depending on this or
- 1:02:49training or industry at this point.
- 1:02:51Okay, largest B2C sales training company
- 1:02:53we're just ranked in the world based on
- 1:02:55annual revenues and I think we're the
- 1:02:57fourth largest in the B2B space this
- 1:02:59last year based on annual revenue. So we
- 1:03:01at this point we train every industry in
- 1:03:02the world. Okay, so spouse objection. So
- 1:03:04one thing I want to understand, the
- 1:03:06spouse objection is typically a smoke
- 1:03:09screen objection. Look, if the thing was
- 1:03:12free, would they have to go ask their
- 1:03:13spouse?
- 1:03:14No. So it's typically a smoke screen
- 1:03:17objection. Typically, it's a money
- 1:03:18objection. They just don't want to tell
- 1:03:20you that. I want to make sure you
- 1:03:21understand that. So, what I want to do
- 1:03:23is I want to push it to the money
- 1:03:26objection, okay? So, I'm going to show
- 1:03:27you how to do that. Typically, when they
- 1:03:29say I need to talk to my spouse,
- 1:03:31nine out of 10 times it's just about the
- 1:03:32money cuz they need to talk with a
- 1:03:34spouse about the money. So, if I push it
- 1:03:36to a money objection and I overcome the
- 1:03:38money objection, 90% of the time they
- 1:03:41don't even talk about talking to their
- 1:03:42spouse again. Now, like I said,
- 1:03:44in other trainings, especially if you're
- 1:03:45on training courses as a client, we show
- 1:03:47you how to prevent this objection from
- 1:03:49even happening in their mind by
- 1:03:50deframing it in the first 5 or 10
- 1:03:52minutes of the conversation. You just
- 1:03:54haven't learned how to do that yet.
- 1:03:55That's why you get this. When I was in
- 1:03:57sales selling consumers, I rarely got a
- 1:03:59spouse objection. Like literally, if I
- 1:04:01got an objection, this was like one out
- 1:04:02of 50 times I'd get this objection. And
- 1:04:04if I did, very easy to overcome it. So,
- 1:04:06if they give you the spouse objection, I
- 1:04:07just need to find out what the real
- 1:04:09concern is. So, if I have that
- 1:04:11relationship with them, I've got their
- 1:04:12guard down, I've got them to open up, I
- 1:04:14might say, "Yeah, no problem. You can
- 1:04:16always get back to me in a week, a
- 1:04:17month, a year, 10 years, you know,
- 1:04:19whatever you need, man. Just get back to
- 1:04:20me in 100 years. Doesn't matter." And
- 1:04:21I'm going to be playful. Now, if I
- 1:04:23didn't get their guard down, if it was a
- 1:04:25surface level conversation, you get
- 1:04:26smacked in the face if you say that. So,
- 1:04:28once again, you got to understand the
- 1:04:30context of what I'm talking about here.
- 1:04:32You're not going to master this from
- 1:04:34YouTube University. I love you. We all
- 1:04:36know we don't master anything from
- 1:04:37YouTube videos, right? How many
- 1:04:39billionaires have been created by
- 1:04:40watching YouTube?
- 1:04:41Unlikely, none, okay? So, what I'm going
- 1:04:44to say here is, "Yeah, that's Yeah, not
- 1:04:45not I don't I don't I don't want to
- 1:04:47agree with them." So, I'm going to say,
- 1:04:48"Yeah, just get back to me." Now, just
- 1:04:49so I understand, in your mind, when you
- 1:04:51go to talk to them, what's that
- 1:04:53conversation mainly going to be about?
- 1:04:54Just to see if I can help.
- 1:04:56So, in your mind, yeah, sure. Yeah,
- 1:04:57that's no problem. Get back with me
- 1:04:59sometime. Now, in your mind, so I'm
- 1:05:00going to get the guard down. Now,
- 1:05:03am I wanting them to get back to me
- 1:05:04sometime? No. But, I need to get them to
- 1:05:07tell me what the real objection is. So,
- 1:05:09I got to get their guard down. I'm going
- 1:05:11to stay here and overcome this and make
- 1:05:13the sale cuz I can't help them unless
- 1:05:15they buy the same. Can you help your
- 1:05:17prospect solve their problems if they
- 1:05:18don't buy? Yes or no? No, you can't. So,
- 1:05:21you offer them no value. Don't buy into
- 1:05:22their story. This is BS, okay?
- 1:05:25They don't need to talk to their spouse.
- 1:05:27They're the ones responsible for this.
- 1:05:28Let's help them overcome it. Yeah, okay,
- 1:05:30yeah, we can talk about it maybe
- 1:05:32sometime. Now, in your mind, what's that
- 1:05:34conversation mainly going to be around
- 1:05:36just so I can see if I can help you.
- 1:05:38Now, most of the time when you ask this,
- 1:05:39they'll be like, "Well, I just got to
- 1:05:41see if we have the money." "Well, I just
- 1:05:42got to see if we have the time to do
- 1:05:44this." Could be a time objection. "Well,
- 1:05:45I just got to see if what her thoughts
- 1:05:47are." Whatever it is. Well, okay, I
- 1:05:49guess when you have the conversation,
- 1:05:50what do you feel like her thoughts are
- 1:05:51going to be? So, I'm finding out what's
- 1:05:52going on.
- 1:05:54If this doesn't land here when I ask
- 1:05:55this question, "Well, this is just how
- 1:05:57we make decisions." Oh, I understand
- 1:05:58that's how you make decisions. That's
- 1:05:59how I'm saying when you have the
- 1:06:00conversation, what is what's it mainly
- 1:06:02going to be around? And I loop back
- 1:06:03around and re-ask the question again
- 1:06:05until they tell me. Nine out of 10
- 1:06:08times, it's I just got to see if we have
- 1:06:10the money, if it's in the budget, and I
- 1:06:11just go straight to the money objection,
- 1:06:13overcome it, okay? Now,
- 1:06:16let's say that they come back and they
- 1:06:19say, "Well, this is just how we make
- 1:06:20decisions, blah, blah, blah, blah,
- 1:06:22blah." Well, yeah, for sure, I guess in
- 1:06:24your mind though, just so I understand,
- 1:06:27whose responsibility is it to do XYZ?
- 1:06:30Now, it depends on what you sell,
- 1:06:32depends on if I'm going to use this
- 1:06:33frame or not, okay? I'm not going to use
- 1:06:36this, let's say if I sold if I'm selling
- 1:06:38to a company, obviously I'm not going to
- 1:06:40use this cuz they're not going to give
- 1:06:41me the spouse objection, but if I sold
- 1:06:44cabinets or, you know, home improvement,
- 1:06:47depending on what it is, if it's like
- 1:06:48plumbing, electrical, if it's vital,
- 1:06:50obviously I can use this, but if it's
- 1:06:52like
- 1:06:53uh
- 1:06:53a nice to have like new cabinets or
- 1:06:56countertops, I'm not going to use this
- 1:06:57frame first off, okay? I would tweak
- 1:06:59this differently. Let's say if I'm a
- 1:07:00financial advisor, that's the second
- 1:07:02biggest industry. I could use for
- 1:07:03anything. Yeah, because in reality,
- 1:07:05after he says, "Yeah, I just need to see
- 1:07:07kind of what his or her thoughts are and
- 1:07:08everything." Yeah, I completely
- 1:07:09understand. I guess in your mind is the
- 1:07:10provide if I'm talking to a male as a
- 1:07:12provider of the home, whose
- 1:07:13responsibility is it to make sure you
- 1:07:16guys are able to retire and like you
- 1:07:17said be able to travel by 61. I'm
- 1:07:19repeating back what they say. Well,
- 1:07:21yeah, I mean that's I know what you're
- 1:07:23saying, but you know, it's it's kind of
- 1:07:25both. I should Well, well, no, really. I
- 1:07:26mean since you're the provider, whose
- 1:07:28responsibility is that? You got to get
- 1:07:30them to buy that it's their
- 1:07:31responsibility. Okay? So, let's say if
- 1:07:34I'm selling marriage therapy, okay, as a
- 1:07:36counselor. Yeah, because in your mind is
- 1:07:38the as the man of the home, whose
- 1:07:40responsibility is it to make sure this
- 1:07:42marriage gets saved? I could even say
- 1:07:43that to the female if she's not the
- 1:07:45provider or vice versa. It doesn't
- 1:07:47really matter. She could be the
- 1:07:47provider. Let's say she's not here.
- 1:07:49Let's say she's a school teacher. She
- 1:07:50wants to be off in the summer but having
- 1:07:52marriage problems. Yeah, because in
- 1:07:53reality, whose responsibility is it to
- 1:07:57make sure this marriage
- 1:07:59last because as you said,
- 1:08:02your husband really hasn't been really
- 1:08:04open to going to therapy. So, in your
- 1:08:05mind, whose responsibility is it to make
- 1:08:08sure that this marriage gets saved if
- 1:08:10he's not going to do it?
- 1:08:12Ah, that's mine. I got to get her to buy
- 1:08:13in that frame. It's mine. Well, why is
- 1:08:14it yours? Yeah, right, because
- 1:08:15ultimately, whose responsibility is it?
- 1:08:18Let's say if I'm selling network
- 1:08:19marketing or if I'm selling a franchise
- 1:08:21opportunity or a business opportunity.
- 1:08:23Yeah, because ultimately, whose
- 1:08:24responsibility is it to start your own
- 1:08:26business so you can make more money for
- 1:08:27the family? Well, yeah, I know what
- 1:08:30you're talking about. Well, whose
- 1:08:31responsibility is it? You got to get
- 1:08:32them to buy in that frame. You can't
- 1:08:33just like lay back and just take it. You
- 1:08:36got to frame them back. Well, yeah, in
- 1:08:37your mind, whose responsibility? Well,
- 1:08:39that's mine. Well, why is it yours?
- 1:08:40Well, yeah, cuz I'm the provider. So, in
- 1:08:42your mind, is it fair
- 1:08:44to put them in that position
- 1:08:47to make that decision
- 1:08:49when it's your responsibility as a
- 1:08:52provider of the home to put them in that
- 1:08:53position to make that decision?
- 1:08:55Now, this will land a lot of the time.
- 1:08:58Sometimes,
- 1:08:59a lot of times they'll say, "Well, well,
- 1:09:00no, it's not." Well, why is it? You got
- 1:09:02to go step for Well, why not? I see a
- 1:09:04lot of people mess this up. I taught
- 1:09:06this frame before and then other people
- 1:09:07stole it and they just don't go far
- 1:09:09enough cuz it will say, "Well, no." And
- 1:09:10then they go to the next frame. I say,
- 1:09:11"Well, why not? Why is it Why is it your
- 1:09:13responsibility?" Okay? So, you got to
- 1:09:15make sure you do that. So, I'm going to
- 1:09:17come back that responsibility frame
- 1:09:18depending on what I sell. So, is it fair
- 1:09:20to them to put them in that position to
- 1:09:23make that decision if it's really your
- 1:09:25responsibility as a provider for the
- 1:09:26family?
- 1:09:28Well, no, it's not. Well, why is it not?
- 1:09:29Or they could say, "Well, I see what
- 1:09:30you're trying to do." Well,
- 1:09:32just in reality, is it fair to put them
- 1:09:35in that position if it's our
- 1:09:37responsibility, yes or no?
- 1:09:39See, I can have that. I've got to get
- 1:09:41their guard down before this for this to
- 1:09:42land. If I have their guard up, harder
- 1:09:44to do this, okay? Now, let's say they
- 1:09:46still come back and they're like, "No,
- 1:09:48you just don't understand. I still need
- 1:09:49to talk to them." I see a lot of sales
- 1:09:51people try to get them not to talk to
- 1:09:53the spouse.
- 1:09:54All that does is trigger them to feel
- 1:09:56like you're just trying to close them.
- 1:09:58You're just trying to sell to them.
- 1:10:00So, here's what I'm going to show you to
- 1:10:01do, okay? Started teaching this
- 1:10:03Gosh, I started doing this I learned
- 1:10:05this
- 1:10:07I learned this when I got in network
- 1:10:08marketing, my third industry, cuz I
- 1:10:10started getting this spouse objection
- 1:10:12here and there with network marketing.
- 1:10:15And I had to come up with better frames
- 1:10:16for this cuz I didn't really get it in
- 1:10:17the other industries cuz I was better at
- 1:10:19preventing that.
- 1:10:20So, I had to come up with here. So, I'm
- 1:10:22just agreeing with them. Yeah, oh yeah,
- 1:10:23I'm not saying that you don't go have a
- 1:10:25conversation with your spouse. In fact,
- 1:10:26I'd encourage you to talk to your
- 1:10:28spouse. It just depends on what type of
- 1:10:29conversation you want to have.
- 1:10:31Like, cuz one type of person, you know,
- 1:10:33they're going to go to their spouse and
- 1:10:34they're going to say, "Hey, I've got all
- 1:10:35these problems and here's another bill
- 1:10:37to pay to solve these problems." Or
- 1:10:40do you want to go to her
- 1:10:42and say, "Hey,
- 1:10:43I love you so much
- 1:10:45that I took $15,000
- 1:10:48out of our investment account and
- 1:10:50invested it with a therapist because I
- 1:10:53want to save our marriage because I love
- 1:10:55you so much and because I'm the man of
- 1:10:57the home and it's my responsibility to
- 1:11:00take care of this marriage, I invested
- 1:11:02in this to make sure that you're going
- 1:11:04to be happy and that we're going to have
- 1:11:05a loving family.
- 1:11:07So, in reality, which conversation you
- 1:11:09want to have?
- 1:11:11Here's all these problems we have, I
- 1:11:12found a therapist, here's another bill,
- 1:11:14or I took this money out because I love
- 1:11:16you, baby, and I want to be the best
- 1:11:18version of myself I can be and because
- 1:11:21of that I care about you that enough, I
- 1:11:23invested this hard-earned money to make
- 1:11:24sure we have the best marriage. Which of
- 1:11:26those conversations you'd rather have?
- 1:11:28Well, I know what you're saying. Well,
- 1:11:30which conversation would you rather
- 1:11:31have? So, you got to reframe that. See
- 1:11:33what I'm doing? Whatever that is, I'm
- 1:11:34going to plug that in, okay? Let's say
- 1:11:37if you're a small, you know, I'm selling
- 1:11:38to a small small business owner husband
- 1:11:40wife that run, you know, some type of
- 1:11:42HVAC company or something like that and
- 1:11:44they would need more jobs, they need
- 1:11:45more leads to scale the business. Oh,
- 1:11:47I'm not saying you don't talk with your
- 1:11:48partner, your wife. It just depends on
- 1:11:50what type of conversation do you want to
- 1:11:52have? Because, you know, there's a
- 1:11:54certain type of person that just, you
- 1:11:55know, do you want to go to them and just
- 1:11:57say, "Hey, you know, we have these
- 1:11:58problems like I've been ignoring this,
- 1:12:01you know, lead problem for the past 2
- 1:12:02years and now we got this big monthly
- 1:12:04retainer of 10 grand to pay every
- 1:12:05month." Or do you want to go to her and
- 1:12:07say, "You know what?
- 1:12:09I've had this problem for 10 years, I've
- 1:12:10been ignoring it. I'm going to invest 10
- 1:12:12grand of our business's money and we're
- 1:12:15going to get these jobs in here and
- 1:12:16we're going to scale this company
- 1:12:18because I want to be able to take you on
- 1:12:19all these vacations you've always wanted
- 1:12:20to go to and I want to be a better man
- 1:12:22for you."
- 1:12:24So, in reality,
- 1:12:25which of these two conversations would
- 1:12:27you rather have?
- 1:12:28And I go into that concern tone. It's
- 1:12:30really hard for them to say, "I'd rather
- 1:12:32have the one with the bills and the and
- 1:12:33the this is another bill and the
- 1:12:35problems." They're like, "Well, well,
- 1:12:36yeah, I know what you mean." Well, which
- 1:12:37of these conversations you'd rather
- 1:12:38have?
- 1:12:39Well, I'd want to have that one. And
- 1:12:40then I could go in the intention frame.
- 1:12:42Depends on where I want to go. Yeah,
- 1:12:43because John, I'm sure it's not
- 1:12:45your real intention,
- 1:12:47>> [clears throat]
- 1:12:48>> you know, to keep that money in in bank
- 1:12:50account the rest of your life and just
- 1:12:51hope and pray it stays there forever,
- 1:12:53right? I'm sure your real intention is
- 1:12:56to be able to get those 30 jobs per week
- 1:12:58for your team, you can scale the
- 1:13:00business to $2 million a month, and you
- 1:13:02never have to worry about money again in
- 1:13:04your life. Would I be right? So, what's
- 1:13:05going to put you in the best position to
- 1:13:07get the right leads so you can scale
- 1:13:09your company?
- 1:13:10See how I'm doing that? I can tie that
- 1:13:11into any industry, okay? Now, there's
- 1:13:14other frames that I could use here,
- 1:13:16okay?
- 1:13:17Uh let's see. I could go into this one
- 1:13:19here. Let's see if it's a female here.
- 1:13:22Um I could say, "Hey, can I ask you
- 1:13:24something without you getting angry at
- 1:13:25me?" Or hey So, if those other frames
- 1:13:27don't work, like I said, I'm depending
- 1:13:29on what I sell
- 1:13:31depends on how I'm going to start those
- 1:13:33uh spouse frames, okay? I'm always going
- 1:13:35to say first though, "Yeah, yeah, we can
- 1:13:37always get back to each other. Just so I
- 1:13:39understand, like when you talk with
- 1:13:40them, what's that conversation mainly
- 1:13:42going to be around?" I'm first going to
- 1:13:43do that so I find out what the concern
- 1:13:45is. And then after that, I'm going to do
- 1:13:4675,000 different frames. I'm going to
- 1:13:48teach you a few here. We're not going to
- 1:13:49have time for all of them.
- 1:13:50"Can I ask you [clears throat] something
- 1:13:51without getting upset with me?" "Sure,
- 1:13:52go ahead."
- 1:13:53"If you were looking to achieve
- 1:13:56your dreams, if anyone I'm not even
- 1:13:59talking about your spouse here, but like
- 1:14:00anyone tried to stop you from actually
- 1:14:03getting to those dreams, how would you
- 1:14:05feel about that person?" They They A lot
- 1:14:07of times they'll come back and they'll
- 1:14:08say like, "Oh, well, that's not what
- 1:14:10we're trying to do." No, I'm not I'm not
- 1:14:11saying that's what you're trying to do.
- 1:14:12I'm just Take your spouse out of it.
- 1:14:14If any If you were trying to achieve
- 1:14:16your dreams, if anybody Take your spouse
- 1:14:18out of it. Tried to stop you from those
- 1:14:20achieving those dreams,
- 1:14:22how would you feel about them? "Oh man,
- 1:14:24I wouldn't like them." Okay. Yeah. So,
- 1:14:26then I'm going to say at this point,
- 1:14:29"So, can I be like really direct with
- 1:14:31you without you getting upset right now?
- 1:14:33Just as you're Just to keep you, you
- 1:14:34know, we talked about being accountable.
- 1:14:36Can I be super direct with you without
- 1:14:37you getting angry at me?" "Sure, sure,
- 1:14:39Jeremy, go ahead."
- 1:14:40"If you truly care about getting XYZ
- 1:14:43result, which I know you're the type of
- 1:14:45a that does from what you told me. And
- 1:14:46you truly care about your spouse.
- 1:14:49Why would you even put them in a
- 1:14:51position
- 1:14:52where they could where you could feel
- 1:14:53that way about them? Now, I've got to
- 1:14:55say that in a concerned tone. I've got
- 1:14:56to get them open. This will not work if
- 1:14:58you had a surface level conversation
- 1:15:00throughout that discovery call. I want
- 1:15:01to make sure you understand. If you just
- 1:15:03kept them surface level, their guard is
- 1:15:04up the whole time. They're going to
- 1:15:05smack you in the face if you do this.
- 1:15:06They won't even let you get to this
- 1:15:07point. So, you got to get much better
- 1:15:09your discovery conversations, okay?
- 1:15:11That's objection prevention. So, if you
- 1:15:13truly care about getting XYZ result and
- 1:15:15you truly care about your spouse,
- 1:15:17why would you even put them in a
- 1:15:19position
- 1:15:20where you could feel that way about
- 1:15:21them? Well, I'm not saying that we Well,
- 1:15:24if you truly care,
- 1:15:26why would you even put them in that
- 1:15:27position where they could hold you back
- 1:15:29from getting XYZ result and now you
- 1:15:32start to feel like they're holding you
- 1:15:33back. Why would you do that? Now, I have
- 1:15:35to say that in a concerned tone. If you
- 1:15:36come across judgmental here, you will
- 1:15:38get punched in the face, okay? Because
- 1:15:40if that happened and they didn't want
- 1:15:41you to get the funds so you could get
- 1:15:43XYZ result,
- 1:15:45what could that possibly do to your
- 1:15:46marriage? I could really get deep into
- 1:15:48here if I get their guard down way
- 1:15:50before this. I want to make sure you
- 1:15:52understand that's a big if. You got to
- 1:15:53learn how to do that. So, what do you
- 1:15:55need to do right here right now today as
- 1:15:57your responsibility to never put your
- 1:15:59spouse in that position where they felt
- 1:16:01this where you felt this way about them?
- 1:16:02So, what actions does, you know, the 2.0
- 1:16:05version of Eric take right here right
- 1:16:07now to make sure he doesn't put his
- 1:16:08spouse in that position where he can get
- 1:16:11XYZ result? Like, what actions does 2.0
- 1:16:13version Eric take? Okay, depending on
- 1:16:15what I sell is how I'm going to say
- 1:16:16this. I'm not going to say 2.0 version
- 1:16:18of Eric if I'm selling garage doors.
- 1:16:20That wouldn't make any sense, okay? This
- 1:16:22might be more for like I'm selling a
- 1:16:24training course or if I'm selling
- 1:16:26marriage therapy or if I'm selling
- 1:16:27dating advice or, you know, how to, you
- 1:16:30know, build a crypto, uh, you know,
- 1:16:32investment strategy or something like
- 1:16:34that. Now, let me give you a few other
- 1:16:35examples here right here before we get
- 1:16:37off here, okay?
- 1:16:38Um, I could get them back to trust. Now,
- 1:16:40if you have a prospect that keeps
- 1:16:42saying, "Well, you know, it's just they
- 1:16:43they just don't trust me. They just
- 1:16:45don't trust me. They just don't trust
- 1:16:46me." You'll find a lot of times men will
- 1:16:47say that like, "Oh, my wife doesn't
- 1:16:49trust me." Or sometimes a lot of women
- 1:16:50say, "Well, my husband doesn't trust
- 1:16:51me." Well, hold on.
- 1:16:53Has something happened in the past where
- 1:16:55they lost trust? Yeah, you know, I
- 1:16:57invested in this thing and it ended up
- 1:16:58being a scam. Oh, what happened? And you
- 1:16:59go back and clarify and probe where they
- 1:17:01release the steam off of that. Then I
- 1:17:03might say, "Well,
- 1:17:05why did your Why do you feel like your
- 1:17:06spouse doesn't trust you making these
- 1:17:08type of decisions on your own?" Well,
- 1:17:10because of X Y Z, blah blah blah blah
- 1:17:12blah. Now, sometimes when you ask that
- 1:17:14question, they'll push back. They're
- 1:17:15like, "Well, no, I'm I'm not doing that.
- 1:17:16Like I'm you know, I'm you just you
- 1:17:18know, this is just the way we make
- 1:17:19decisions." Well, I understand, but if
- 1:17:20she really trusts you,
- 1:17:22then you wouldn't be having this issue
- 1:17:24in making decisions yourself, right? So,
- 1:17:26why is it that you don't Why is it that
- 1:17:28there's no trust there? You can tell me
- 1:17:30like something happened in the past like
- 1:17:31why is there no trust there? Most of the
- 1:17:33time I get that there. Well, blah blah
- 1:17:35blah blah blah, okay? Something like
- 1:17:37that. I don't It depends on well, you
- 1:17:38know, in the past I invested in this
- 1:17:39crypto thing and it didn't work out or I
- 1:17:40invested in this service and we didn't
- 1:17:42get the results, whatever they say.
- 1:17:47Can I tell you something without you
- 1:17:49getting upset with me? Can I tell you
- 1:17:50something without you getting pissed off
- 1:17:52at me? See, I'm doing it Can I make a
- 1:17:54suggestion without you getting upset
- 1:17:55with me right here? It's really hard for
- 1:17:57them to say, "No, you cannot." Okay?
- 1:18:00Because I have their guard down. If you
- 1:18:02don't have their guard down, it's not
- 1:18:03going to work as well, okay?
- 1:18:05If I was her,
- 1:18:08I wouldn't trust you either.
- 1:18:11You know why?
- 1:18:12Just because of the way you've shown up
- 1:18:13to this point because how are we ever
- 1:18:16going to show her we can be trusted if
- 1:18:19we never take the actions that the
- 1:18:20person who makes 40 grand a month makes?
- 1:18:23If we can't take the actions that that
- 1:18:25person who makes that 40 or 50 grand a
- 1:18:27month or every week in their business,
- 1:18:29if we can't be that person, how am I
- 1:18:32ever going to earn her trust? Now, like
- 1:18:34I said, I I plugged something in there.
- 1:18:36Let's say if you sold
- 1:18:38um something that helped them make more
- 1:18:40money. Let's say if you sold network
- 1:18:41marketing and they want to make 40 grand
- 1:18:43a month and they want to get out of
- 1:18:44their job. Because if I was her, I
- 1:18:46wouldn't trust you either.
- 1:18:48Now, you got to say that in a concerned
- 1:18:49tone. You can't say, "If I was her, I
- 1:18:51wouldn't trust you either, man." Cuz
- 1:18:52then they're going to get pissed off. It
- 1:18:53sounds judgmental. I mean, if I were
- 1:18:55her,
- 1:18:56I might not trust you either.
- 1:18:58You know why?
- 1:18:59Because of the way you've shown up from
- 1:19:01what you've told me to this point.
- 1:19:02Because how are we ever going to show
- 1:19:04her
- 1:19:05that we can be trusted if we never take
- 1:19:08the actions that the person makes that
- 1:19:11makes 40 or 50 grand a month or that the
- 1:19:13person who gets the training to get her
- 1:19:15better job makes. How's she going to
- 1:19:17ever be able to trust us if we can't
- 1:19:20take the actions and do the things that
- 1:19:22the person who gets that promotion makes
- 1:19:24that the other person never takes. How
- 1:19:26are we going to ever be able to do that?
- 1:19:27Or I could say, "How are we ever going
- 1:19:29to be How's she ever going to trust me
- 1:19:31if we don't take the actions that the
- 1:19:32person takes that the mom takes to get
- 1:19:35her kids a scholarship to make so
- 1:19:37they're not forced to pay all that
- 1:19:38debt." So, I get Let's say if you sold
- 1:19:41something that teaches like parents how
- 1:19:42to get academic or sports scholarships
- 1:19:45so they don't go into debt for their
- 1:19:47kids or their kids don't go into debt.
- 1:19:48Yeah, because how is she ever going to
- 1:19:50trust you if we're never able to take
- 1:19:52the actions that the person that the mom
- 1:19:55takes that gets her kids the scholarship
- 1:19:58so that they don't they're not forced to
- 1:19:59pay all that debt. Or I could say that
- 1:20:01the business owner takes who scales the
- 1:20:03company to 50 million dollars a year.
- 1:20:05So, all I'm doing is I'm plugging in the
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- 1:20:11"Jeremy, I like that frame, but how
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- 1:21:02you want to be the best, go to
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- 1:21:18are crushing it and they're in your
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